[Applause] welcome to the old-fashioned Masonic podcast where we talk all things Freemasons while drinking an old-fashioned I’m Brian and I’m Chris Collins so Chris has been on uh before when we did uh we didn’t two profile oh we’ve done two we did your bio and then
You and Alex came in for the uh Masonic Mount rushcore man did that get some attention and holy moly uh but there’s not a masonic route in Rushmore but we could argue that we do have a masonic Mount Rushmore because three of the four are masons yeah which one’s not
Who’s all on there again uh Lincoln so I’ve heard a story I don’t know if it’s 100 true but I think Lincoln was actually going to join masonry when he was done being president but obviously he wasn’t able to fulfill that but I think he he was going to all
Right you know what yeah he would have been a great representation for the brand it would have been a great representation for the brand so talking about representation and the brand in this episode we’re going to talk about Masonic references in TV movies and Chris added songs yeah so we’re
Going to just kind of jump through some of these are um older that you so Chris and I are generation apart so they they’ve lost both Generations here so uh Chris did most of the legwork here so we’re just gonna kind of fire off and we’re going
To start on masonry and TV right Chris absolutely so The Andy Griffith Show if you’ve ever seen it yes a few episodes a few so I’m gonna say a pretty big majority of the folks that watch this has seen The Andy Griffith Show several times now I don’t remember this episode I’m sure
I’ve seen every every one of them but this episode was off to Hollywood yeah right and and who suggests is it the visitor or what’s his name Andy griffic suggests in that episode that he’s visiting his cousin who is the Grand Master that year so does it mean Andy Griffith was a
Mason no but does it mean that he had Masonic ties Fair absolutely can we go with that yeah Dennis the Menace um I saw the episodes not all of them but I remember that but you mentioned in your write-up that that Dennis Braggs at school that his dad’s a 32nd degree
Mason so I think that’s is that just Scottish Ryder’s 32nd in the York Road too they have a lot of degrees in New York right but when you hear someone say 30 second I think it’s just I think you go black hat Scottish right right is that
What you think yeah yeah okay that’s I think the same thing so we got some oldies right Andy Griffith and Dennis the minister probably filmed all around the same time right 50s 60s and another old one here and then but this moves up into the 70s right I have
Seen all of this one every episode every episode I have seen like three so this is that’s a little bit of uh an oddity but Mash we’re talking about Mash and in this letter that Chris finds uh radar tells Hawkeye right yeah that is mother is dating a
Third degree Mason yeah and there were a few different references that radar uses to talk about his mom dating a Mason okay all right well I suppose it’s a good thing that radar wasn’t a mason so right you didn’t go there with me when everybody was together Monk
Monk I know what it is I’ve never seen a single episode of you absolutely everyone he’s the kind of the quirky detective yeah is he a detective yeah okay yeah so tell us about this so this was back I think it was still running when I was in high school so um
And uh every time you go into the police Captain’s office you can see his Fez and they’re in San Francisco okay I can see his Fez hanging up and also when they buried the Monk’s wife they’re in the Masonic portion of the um Cemetery so it alludes to both of
Them being Masons or maybe it’s YP an Eastern Star yeah okay all right that’s uh that’s a good tidbit that’s a good tip so the first ones that Chris has put up I’ve heard of none of these so these are good these I I like it so Harry Birdman
Attorney at law is this a show I I guess okay this was so I found a lot that I didn’t quite understand um okay and I’d like to call out where I found most of these some Canadians put this together didn’t they Grand Lodge of British Columbia and UConn has a website
That has just about everything so a lot of the sources are coming from them yeah Fair yeah I like it well shout out to the Canadians um that’s why we had to clean up some of the spelling on here there’s some there’s some French ties in there that
Makes a little bit more sense because I I thought uh Chris yeah so in this one apparently the attorney was accused of being a Muslim in this episode and and uh when asked he’s like then what’s somebody apparently in this episode will ask well what’s with the Fez if you’re not a
Muslim and then he said he was a Shriner third degree clown unit so you could tell that they kind of got stuff mixed up as Masons you know we would always say a Shriner and a clown unit we probably wouldn’t say third degree Mason would just say Master Mason yeah so you
Can see where it kind of gets lost in script writing back in the day and I think this is an older one um the degree you were mattered yeah it took a long time to become a third degree okay okay I’ll go with that I
Like it I like it I met a French Mason and in their Scottish Rite it takes them a long time to move up to 30 second unlike ours yeah it’s on a weekend yeah I think he was like a 14th 15th degree 14th degree of elu and then he’s got to
Write a paper before he can move up and oh I like it yeah pretty cool you know what I kind of like that I kind of like it I kind of like it Warehouse 13 Warehouse 13 I know nothing of of this this is this a Canadian show did you do
Any research this is American I’ve watched every episode absolutely love it worth watching is it what’s it on is it on Hulu Netflix I think it was Sci-fi channel when it came out that’s why I wouldn’t have seen it yeah you got to be a little nerdy but in in this show it’s
All about artifacts that got power through okay being around someone famous okay in the final episode they uh have to use Hyrum Abiff Square compass and setting Mall to uh to survive so pretty cool story and is that that’s the final that’s like the series finale
I believe it was that’s how they exit that’s right all right Warehouse 13. look it up won’t be me Lodge 49 I know nothing of Lodge 49 either you have stumped me all the way through is this BS no so this one technically isn’t about masonry but if
You’re a Mason you’re gonna love it it only went for I think one season but I was talking to Doug short here him and I we love the show what time frame was it set in uh today to current day yeah but it’s not about masonry but there’s a lot
Of masonic references it that I can’t remember what their lodges were they were named after an animal but it like or something like okay yeah Lodge 49 look it up or if you’ve seen it let us know in the comments because I feel like
Uh Chris is trying to get me to bite on something that’s not real I’m suspect so uh there’s some shows that allude to some bad guys being Masons right yes that’s what you put together so Chris take this over talk to us about these shows and what you know about them
So on Bones have you ever watched that one I have a little bit here and there I believe they had a guy that uh ate people and he turned out to be amazed and I believe that’s out okay well apparently that’s uh that’s what everyone thinks our initiations are
About so there you go we’re uh you caught us again guys um a show called Endeavor on season two episode one I’ve never seen it never heard of it but uh we were bad guys okay so Gotham yeah TV show about Batman yep I’ve seen that this is Young Batman kind
Of growing up yeah great series I thought it was yeah and and they had one episode where they actually do a ritual inside of our a beautiful Masonic temple and you get to see it and it’s um it’s called blood sacrifice if you want to check that out very cool episode
Gotham’s over now right the series is over I’m not sure I never got into it you didn’t yeah I probably watched the first three for sure yeah yeah I did watch the episode or Seasons yeah and then Kaleidoscope I think that’s one of the new ones on Netflix we turned out
To be bad guys there too oh you know I saw that on a thumbnail because they had like a lady on the thumbnail with some Masonic thing this yeah this is fairly new in the last couple of years I think it’s it’s one of those where you can
Watch it in any order you want and it still makes for a good story kind of a new way of okay TV I like it um Murdoch Mysteries that’s before my time but when I first read that I read murder mysteries like the the attorney that killed his wife and son I thought
No don’t tie this to us no Murdoch mystery’s never heard of it and then a show on CBS called salvation where the bad guy rich guy just buys whatever he wants makes us look bad luck huh yeah that living in excess living in excess so now we’re going to pop over to movie
References so we’ve come out of TV listen guys I know we probably missed some put it in there we’re not we’re not great at this so but uh movie references I think we’re I’m gonna I’m back in the saddle now the TV I I don’t watch a lot
Of TV so I think I’m going to be back here so the movie The Freemason yeah have you not never seen it so it’s got Sean Aston in it I think that’s how you say yeah Rudy yeah um I don’t know if he’s a mason or not but he’s probably
The main character okay I think the senior Deacon in the movie he’s the one that directed it okay and they they do a great job do you know who Sean aston’s dad is other than Mr Aston no I do not The Adams Family he’s Gomez so I don’t know much about The Adams
Family either you know The Adams Family yeah really yep there we go he’s a pretty good actor yeah yeah he was kind of a child star then kind of disappeared for a little bit and came back as Sean Aston also the one that’s in uh what’s the stranger things I haven’t watched that
Either okay well it was in 50 First Dates where he had a lisp and wore muscle shirts that was pretty good all right all right there we go the Freemasons also in there the movie From Hell we’ve referenced before when we talked about Jack the Ripper there’s hundreds of references if you’ve not
Seen the movie is it fair for me to because you’ve introduced me to the movie I was there when we were both introduced I’m not sure I keep giving you credit for this excuse me so we were there is it fair to say it’s very slow movie but or did you
Not think it was slow well it’s an older movie well they were it’s like 20 years old this is the kid saying it’s older it so movies back in the 90s and 2000s they took a lot longer to get going yeah it felt slow but some of the stuff was really interesting
Um I remember seeing some scenes in there that gave me pause like this is kind of interesting yes yeah it’s definitely worth watching yeah uh also Laurel and Hardy sons of the desert it’s an old movie from the 20s there’s countless references um and their movie poster which happens
To be in the studios of Laurel and Hardy they’re actually in their Fez sons of the desert Laurel and Hardy so um I haven’t seen that one yet I see the poster yeah yeah it’s uh it’s worth no knowing when it was filmed it’s worth to watch because uh the
Cinematography was probably great at the time but now it’s like oh my gosh my two-year-old could shoot this in the backyard so storyline though uh it’s interesting yeah it’s interesting yeah yeah it’s it’s not what you think you know and I think sons of the desert I’m
Going hot sand second section all of those things like Fred Smith yes you know you you kind of go there Fred and Ross you probably figure they’re going to pop up and do a cameo right yeah um the next thing we’re moving to is just kind of movies or shows that just
Kind of showed a ring or an emblem right so take over here so aliens in 1986 I’ve never seen it but it’s worth watching Sergeant apone has a ring okay American Gangster uh guy named Lou has a lapel pin okay the Ant Bully which is a cartoon never
Seen it the the grandma has a rocking chair and it’s got a really nice Square Encompass in the back on the rocking chair no no kidding all right the apocalypse uh from 1997 apocalypse watch Sorensen has a ring which I’ve never seen that either so we’re talking like we know all
The kids yeah another guy the guy he had a ring bad boys now I will tell you when I saw this stuff come over said bad boys two it was actually Bad Boys the first one because on the truck that’s outside of club hell
That has The Ether in it so Tia Leone is in the very first one bad boys and so she was the one that they tied her to a deal and they end up escaping in this ice cream truck or big truck that had those squaring compasses on it so
Um Death of a Salesman 85 I it was before I was born but he had a lapel I’ve never seen death episode it is a play I do know it’s a play okay uh Domino no it’s 05 I’ve never seen it though okay so the TV producer Mark Heist wears
A Masonic ring in there okay okay you know it might be a Canadian thing it could be it could be it could be um The Grand Budapest Hotel 2014 lugwood has a masonic hand tattoo right yeah then the leak of Extraordinary Gentlemen 2003 I remember that it doesn’t seem
Like this 20 years old now yeah and there’s a few different squares and Compasses in that movie right and and this aside talks about the bad guy with the ring on there yeah one thing that wasn’t in there that I added the movie Tombstone which I know you’re gonna say
Is too old it’s a great movie it’s probably one of the top 10 of all times it’s a must-watch if you’re a history but but I’ve seen it I wouldn’t say top 10 though popped him we’ll debate that we’ll debate that later but I don’t I also
Don’t watch a lot of movies so but it’s a good one one of the characters has a scoring compass on the necklace I do remember yeah yeah so and he ends up turning he was with the bad guys or red sashes but he didn’t like the way that
They were operating so he came back which is good because we all know why it hurt to be a mason so maybe that’s where he flipped us like well I can’t go against my brothers that’s that’s what we hope and that’s uh that’s what we’re gonna put in and say that’s that’s what
Happened so Chris yeah um obviously the one movie everybody knows is Masonic is National Treasure fair I even did a masonic uh uh investigation last month and the guy was investigating when I asked him if he had any questions he asked me about National driver you know I’ve been asked that
Before I’m a Sonic investigations and you know what uh stay tuned several episodes ahead we’re gonna be doing an episode on Masonic investigations what should really happen and Chris doesn’t know but Crystal be back for that because Chris has done a lot of Investigations Russ will be back in for that
Um and I’ll jump in and we’ll talk about what we think should really be done to protect the west gate frankly right so I don’t want to go into another ramp like I like to do sometimes about the West Gates so uh prisoners 2013 Jake Gyllenhaal’s character wears a Masonic
Ring on his left finger and Jack Johnson shows off some Masonic jewelry yeah I’ve never seen that one either I’ll have to go back and look at that it’s okay I like Jake Gyllenhaal I think he uh he’s a good character actor so I will tell you this I’ve seen Austin Powers
And now I feel like this BS but this is what this is what I’m seeing on the prompt here Will Ferrell and Austin Powers wears a fez and mass answer answer any question of ask three times and it has to be three times yeah it’s I don’t remember this yeah so he’s
Interrogated it’s in the original one I believe so you know I think I’ve only seen Gold Member now that I think about it well you you should go back in the original I mean what are the odds he’s got a fez on and if you ask him three
Times he has to give you the answer so somebody that wrote that knew something about something absolutely love it yeah that’s a great tidbit I’ve learned a lot so far so let’s jump over to songs now so we went from TV to movies to song I think everyone’s heard this uh uh
Copperhead Road um um he’s talking about the truck that he bought at an auction at a Mason’s Lodge right I haven’t think of something yeah yeah um you have to help me on this because you’re getting into a genre that I’m not familiar about so I I don’t know um gangster
Gang star no gangs no games right no games I think is the title of the song and the line the not the line is do the knowledge to the master builder blowing a spliff the New Millennium Hiram Abiff all right well I don’t like that they’ve
Got to spliff and hire him a Biff I’ll mention in the same line what else rhymes with Hyrum well but you’re right it’s it’s different split’s a blunt right I it yeah it’s a blunt yeah I think so all right all right there we go uh DMX the song slipping
Um the line is I’ve been through mad different phases like Masons it doesn’t you know I I know that you guys understand me as a uh awesome gangster rapper um but I just didn’t get my flow kind of heated up for that apologize I think it’s important to say just because they
Rap about masonry doesn’t mean they’re amazing that’s fair or that they’d make it through the west gate that’s that’s fair that’s fair game masonry makes them look a little bit cooler you can never say rap game again you said that like you’re in the rap game I want you to go
Back because he’s like you know so in the rap game I don’t know anything about the rap game we we uh we we know a brother in our lots that uh uh May spit some Rhymes or two yeah so speaking of which so there’s a Freemason wrap so would it be so this
Is one of the greatest songs I’ve ever heard seriously yes there’s not being facetious no I’m being real okay even my dad likes it so it’s called what so would it be it’s called so mode at B okay the YouTube channel is j-ro and it’s it’s really good okay well
Definitely you’ll see that across the bottom so you guys can go uh you can go look that up so also Doug Anthony All-Stars uh Jason and Kylie uh the the the lyrics are let’s play Freemason I’ll chase you around the house while wearing our silly aprons so I’ve never heard it
Interesting I have no either but what a great quote all right all right so you’ve got next year uh House of paying you know the the song Jump Around absolutely it’s in my wheelhouse yes before you were born so they had a song called life goes on
And it says do you know about the Masons about their Nation to the 33rd degree you know that’s me so I would assume maybe he is I also believe somebody correct where I’m wrong the lead singer of House of Pain he was also a lead singer of a band
Everlast because that’s his name I didn’t know that I I believe that uh just like um Stone Sour and slip knot I think it’s the same lead singer look that up look that up boys uh Ray Stevens Shriner’s convention how do you talk about songs about masonry without mention mentioned in the
Glorious mess everyone wears a fez but Ray Stevens uh you know we don’t really talk about him much in masonry but you know he he was uh he was kind of a funny little uh he was like a weird owl of the before his time the Weird Al country
Music so I’ve got to see him I went to uh Imperial Sir Jeff souders uh parade in Nashville okay he was at the parade Ray Steven yeah nice all right so speaking of Weird Al Weird Al Yankovic Albuquerque and the quote is where the Shriners and the lepers play their
Ukuleles all day I have never heard that um I I remember Weird Al’s uh early stuff so back to you I I don’t know what this is the LCD sound system so when I did research on this one they claimed that it was the first music video funded by MTV it’s got Anna
Kendrick in the music video you did send this to me I did see this this is just crazy it’s really kind of interesting because she’s shooting a scoring Compass out of her hands and you know what remind me we’re gonna put a link down to
This because you did send this to me I’m a kind of an Anna Kendrick fan she’s just she’s she’s cute she’s she’s quirky and I think she’s probably funny as hell I would imagine I think she’s funny as hell so but uh I now I did I didn’t know
That’s what it was so check out the link I do know this one Run DMC the video It’s Tricky um one of the ladies is wearing uh the Scottish Rite black 32nd degree uh hat as well in that I do remember that um I didn’t I’d seen it for years and I
Thought what’s this really happening I joined the fraternity I was like wait a minute I’ve seen this before and then somehow I’m watching tricky so Barbra Streisand and Duck Sauce let’s run up your alley right that Barbra Streisand yeah yeah absolutely not uh she was alive she was doing music in
When I was alive uh I’m still alive um barely but uh yeah I don’t know anything about this but uh talks about having a shrine Fez in her video so I know nothing about that any uh Barbra Streisand followers here reach out to Barbara and tell her uh we uh give her a
Shout out but that’s all we have yeah Chris thanks for the research and if you guys have anything else that we missed which we will add it in the comments and uh we like to see Masonic references in in movies TVs but we don’t like them
When they’re bad guys no we’re not bad guys we’re not bad guys you know we we you know every once in a while you get a you get an odd duck in there and you you know get them kicked out yeah you do you just put their head under water whatever
You do with the duck so but uh thanks for watching the old-fashioned fashion Masonic podcast and thanks again Chris thank you
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