Let’s combat and fight back with metal tracks the water mines they want control of the masses and common core it dumb is down in the classes without knowledge we can’t gain access built with the elders take notes and write classes Peace and peace all of my thinkers true speakers and truth seekers welcome to another truth to power talk with your sister dr ma’at thank you for joining another powerful discussion and tonight i have with me another powerful powerful guest brother kenneth zaki how are you doing tonight king
I’m well thank you very much cis and thank you for the invitation hey no problem thank you thank you for coming out you know it’s such a short notice i called you literally like wednesday or thursday and say can you come on saturday he said let me check my
Schedule and um you checked your schedule and you text me back and you said sure you know i’ll come on family i i’ve reached out to this brother he is one of the co-founders of comedic ascend fraternity which was founded in morehouse at morehouse college was it what year was it um
Brother kenneth what yeah 1987. kenneth kimmet i said kimmy 19 1987. yes and this is the first african fraternity in the u.s is that clear is that true yes ma’am see and so family if you all have been listening to the shows and the discussions that i’ve been having i i
Often talk about you know reforming the hbcu curriculum and even restructuring and you know reforming i guess you would say our fraternities and now sororities i just had a had a a powerful discussion with the brothers name is dr james holly out of the university of michigan and he
Came on a few months ago and we talked about reforming the hbcu curriculum and during that discussion we talked about black greeks and how a lot of these fraternities and sororities aren’t rooted in our history our culture and our tradition so tonight family i’m going to be talking with brother uh
Kenneth zacche about committed comedic i sin uh fraternity and i’m gonna be talking about the identity crisis of black greeks and yes i’m gonna say it and i’ve been saying this for a while black greeks in my opinion um maintain and perpetuate the already existing identity crisis that’s within the black community
Literally you have black people on college campuses wearing greek letters getting greek letters branded on their bodies adopting names calling themselves greeks and and i think that is it’s just i mean it just proves that we do suffer from a um an identity crisis you know and so um
Brother kenneth i know i did do a little bit of research and i know that alpha phi alpha was the first um fraternity it was founded in the early 1900s uh at cornell university and then you had the akas that was the first sorority that was founded at howard
University but when they established these fraternities in these sororities well they were established first and foremost because the white folks didn’t allow us to join their fraternities and sororities and so black people said well i’ll go start my own and while brother ken if i think that that’s great that we
Said okay we’ll start our own we should have when we established our own fraternities and sororities it should have been anchored or rooted or centered in our in our traditions and cultures and so let me ask you this brother kenneth do you feel like um do you agree that
With a black person calling themselves a black a black greek do you agree that that’s some sort of identity crisis um i do i do agree with that i mean because this is it’s like an oxymoron you know i mean you know it’s like black irish you know
Like a fighting irish and all that stuff i mean you know i mean you black and that’s like malcolm x said if you say you from uh uh bahamas you say you from nigeria you say you from south carolina you black they ain’t gonna look at you from no
Geography or anything else they’re gonna look at you as a neck guy come on let’s talk about it i mean and so i mean so you know like you know you can say all those things but at the end of the day if you say you’re greek or you are
Anything anything other than black i mean you know it’s like something wrong with that what’s so what’s wrong with us claiming our own identity we got some folks talking about you got three fifths of blood black blood you black you know to justify a lot of uh uh injustices
You know i mean so you know it’s com when it’s convenient it’s all right but you know for me i’m just proud to be black you know i may have some some people may take more pride in saying hey i got more indian in me and all that
Stuff i’ve been hearing since i grew up you know but the end of the day my sister i don’t mean to give you a long answer for sure don’t talk you know that’s why i became a member of kevin that’s why i came it was started out of that same spirit
You know i get to more house i’m all eager to be in that beautiful black cottage that black institute for black men and all the things that you know i’ve heard over the years i’ve known people i’ve actually known that inspired me to go to morehouse
And then you know to get there and i wanted to see the years syllabus syllabus and i was stable on this a greek week greek week you know and there go that word again great right greek right i ain’t the most intelligent person in the world but i’m just trying to figure out
What’s all this affinity for greeks you know and then like one of the most popular books on campus one of the most popular underground books for the most part uh other than our black psychology classes this book wasn’t really mentioned in the classes but it was um
A stolen legacy by george m james which on the cover which on the cover he says that the ancient greek philosophy is actually stolen from the ancient african mystery system and a lot of us who are reading that book we say hey wait a minute great week
We knew it had to be something better and so myself and nine other brothers we saw that we came together we came up with a plan of action we sought out of some elders because we knew we couldn’t do anything without no elders counseling us guiding us
And we saw that as four elders and one of which of them was was was a sister a elder sister wow played a significant role because we understood the significance of the queen come on you better talk about everybody is what gave birth to kenneth our sin our brotherhood
We were we we had like people scaring us elders and wisdom our thing was playing for mrs from the time we started to the time we ended it was along the nature cycles of nature we came above when we came above ground and was presented to the world it was
What they call spring time when the flowers were coming back were blooming when the earth was giving back vegetation that’s when we came back and the people knew about these brothers our whole thing was in accord with nature it wasn’t happenstance it was bigger than all of us
And it’s bigger than all of us today you know i’m just happy i thought i was i was in cleveland ohio my hometown i was just interrupted at age 26 years old long out of high school i thought i was going back to college i was going back to atlanta to go to
College but i was going back to atlanta to become a founding member of kevin arsene i know it i know it brother kind of let me show the people what we’re talking about because you sent me some beautiful images and so this is an article family that you’re looking at
Right here it says members of of kemet from left to right um so you have uh this is the article says new more house fraternity is based on african customs and traditions all right so this is an article then you have this right here the english club presents a dialogue so
There was some dialogue that happened with kevin assin it says the first african fraternity in the u.s so that was a flyer and these are some pictures of our brothers you know brotherhood and look what they have look at what they have the pyramids behind them kmt the brotherhood of chemical sin
So look at this i mean repping and this is that was that the that was at the million man mark yes so this is yup you sent me this that was an official that was an official million man march book beautiful beautiful and then you have you sent me this one right here
That’s some brothers at a gathering of one of our what we call national gatherings where like brothers come together from all different towns all over the country and we come together and we power wild to talk about our next moves love it love it and then could you explain what
This is right here i think uh that is the brothers carrying what we call tet that is a tree that that the brothers had to go and select and cut for their final ritual when they were presented to the community and that tree which we call tech represents them
Carrying the load of their community and it’s not light that is the final ritual before they rejoin the community and they walk for about a mile and if can the community follow them sisters follow them brothers follow them some their parents be out there relatives friends and just
Following them we do a final ritual for them and present them to their community their new and then their newness beautiful and this is another picture that i saw on the net and i asked you i said are these your people and you say yeah these
Are my folks right here yeah and we call that the zulu formation and that’s brothers call to action readiness and so every morning brothers would come together before the sun goes up as they’re going through their initiation and they would meet like somewhere like in an open
Field and they would raise their both of their hands up like in a you and that we call that the car and they’re open and they’re welcoming the new day and calling on the most high to to bless them beautiful so you said the and i’m and and while you’re describing these things
I hear african tradition and customs you know i hear i hear african names the zulu um you said the log carrying the load of the community you know and you mentioned being in tune with nature you mentioned having a council of elders you mentioned including the queen
Mother and so you know it’s so what you know your fraternity is the this fraternity kim assin is definitely rooted in african tradition and customs and see this needs to be replicated at every hbcu now let me ask you a question brother kenneth and i’ma stop sharing my screen let me ask you
This to get into you and i know you can’t tell all the stuff that you all do to get in and all the rituals but can you at least tell us this did you did the brothers have to do degrading things to be a part of your
Fraternity so what i mean by that is you know somebody getting bent over and beat with a paddle emphatic no thank you thank you that’s that was why that was another thing that turned mostly bro that attracted brothers to us and that’s what attracted us to create
Our own it’s a dignified thing how can we haze and do those type of things and we have a queen mother come on let’s talk about it nothing’s an insult to her i mean we didn’t take i mean we had a queen mother we had four elders amongst them was a queen
And they discussed things we didn’t make decisions by ourselves we were given direction and this right here was the foundation of our our sin our brotherhood that direction that we receive from those four elders which include the queen mother and that queen mother balance things out ain’t no way we could insult
Someone or degrade someone to have them in our brotherhood our motto was the mission is love and love is all-encompassing because let me let me tell you i asked that and i already i already figured that you all didn’t right because you said tradition and customs but i teach for
Those who they know that who are on the show well people come on the show and people in the chat they know i teach over at morgan and some students i remember they suspended a particular fraternity i won’t you know put the name out there but they got they suspended an
Entire line because one of the students he ended up they ended up being beating him so bad that they broke his arm and so he ended up going to the hospital and initially he didn’t want to tell his parents that he was pledging and that those brothers you know they beat him
Down and broke his arm but eventually he had to tell his parents because his parents were like what’s going on how did this happen to you so he ended up you know telling it sharing with his parents what happened and so morgan ended up suspending um the entire line
I’ve also heard stories from people who are in those fraternities at morgan um some of my students and i won’t name their names but they shared with me that they make them do the most degenerate things um and some stuff i wouldn’t even want to repeat because i i know my
Mother’s watching some of the elders but some very very degenerate degenerate things that we would say your manhood got violated that type those types of degenerate things to get into these fraternities and i remember having a conversation uh with my son isaiah who’s at howard and i told him he was telling
Me all of his friends were pledging and um i told him he better not pledge and he was silent he was solid in who he is before he even went to howard and so um he just he said he wasn’t going to pledge but i kept on telling him i said
Why do you why do you feel like it’s okay for somebody to degrade you so that you could be a part of something because then you’re no different than the gangs so if we’re you know you just in in academia so you’re no different than the
Bloods and the crips who beat you in or some of these uh gangs who they end up gang raping the girls in and all that stuff you’re no different than that you know so you’re no different than that so you look down at you know the the gangs
In the streets but you all are doing the same behavior that’s right that’s right just in academia that’s right it’s the degradation i don’t think i don’t think if you’re trying to lift anyone else you don’t have to put them down to lift them up you know and that’s
Like that is a mentality it’s a tradition it’s part of the eurocentric thing thank you that’s what it is i mean it’s like that military thing the way they had to condition people to be soldiers and stuff that’s why i was never attracted to the military particularly during time i was coming up
I had some white person in my face degrading me and talking about me and stuff i know i would probably die there i would have probably died because i would i would have i know anyway man make long story short says what you’re saying is that was another thing that attracted
Brothers towards our brotherhood i don’t want to sit here and tell you that it’s all it was all fairy tales i mean it was all smooth sailing because it wasn’t our putting together that brotherhood i can i can honestly tell you that i know we have at least five we helped at least
500 brothers we had a strong membership during the tenure when we were going strong and out there we had at least 500 brothers at howard uh all over the au center in nashville and a few other cities we had some we had what we call uh gnomes chapters
And so like what happened like what you were mentioning says at one point uh when we were at moorhouse and stuff we were never really welcome at moore house we were founded on morehouse college campus but we were never welcomed there all the administrators they were
I mean when they found out who we truly were i mean that we wasn’t like the alphas or we weren’t the cues or we wouldn’t other fraternities seek like in our early days that picture that you uh uh show that we were into what i called
The zulu formation when we were on all black and had our hands shaved they didn’t know what to make out of us they knew we was returned to they know we was alphas or whatnot unless the alphas told them but they didn’t know what to make
Out of us but then when they found out when we had our initiations and stuff we did our community ritual which means holding the tree and stuff they knew it was something different and see even administrators and stuff all of them have greek backgrounds they come from greek letters so that we
Want no turn on to them we had to have meetings and stuff with the president and his office wanted us to cease and desist but we kept going and stuff and we went for like three or four years strong at morehouse despite you know uh the opposition and then the
Thing they really made us weighing off was just like what you were talking about those other fraternities getting into trouble where they were banned and at one point this was something that was going on throughout the country where they were banning fraternities and any kind of fraternity wasn’t attractive on campuses
At one point we weren’t popular as it was because we wasn’t doing step shows we weren’t stepping or anything you know we were doing a lot of community service we were doing community service around the morehouse and spelman campus with the people that lived in the housing projects we would find activities for
The youth we go clean up the housing projects we do things around there that we but we weren’t doing step shows and stuff we weren’t doing that stuff you weren’t doing We wasn’t doing that no matter what going on oh okay oh no okay we wasn’t doing that we were pretty low-key you know we just we we go through the community and we do our thing you know just clean up work with the children after school steps
After school program we started a ricer passage a organization called a kente kente is the opener of the way and we work with young men uh and we and we we did that in several cities and so but that’s what we were our concentration was community service
And i’m not surprised listening to you i’m not surprised brother kenneth that you all got pushback from the morehouse administration for starting a fraternity that was african-centered because we had you were dealing with the negro pens because it’s a lot of negro pens who are running these
Hbcus there’s a lot of negro pens out there who are running you know these black skinned europeans and um and so i’m not i’m not surprised i’m not surprised at all let me let me share something with you a few years back there was a student who came to me she was um
Uh and to chat will probably have to help me out you know how with the bands it’s the females who are twirling in the front you know when the bands are playing i forgot what the name what their names are and someone in the chat helped me out but these are the women
Who are in the front and they’re dancing and they got the tights on and so major majorettes thank you the major rents and so the major rats um one of them she she took me about two or three years ago she was uh one of my engineering students
And i remember seeing her at a show you know practice and seeing her as shows and and she you know like i said she was one of my students and one day she came to class and she had a beautiful afro brother kenneth and so i
Asked her i said i said you know and i don’t want to say your name but i said come over let me talk to you i said you have beautiful hair why do you wear you know the long tracks sometimes blonde sometimes black you have beautiful hair
And she said to me she said doc the reason i wear um these tracks is because when we have to perform they tell us that for uniformity purposes all of us have to wear tracks we have to wear fake hair you would think that at a daggone hbcu
That black women could be comfortable in their skin comfortable in their natural hair and and that maybe uniformity could have been an afro you know they didn’t have to say let’s wear long blonde tracks or long blacks tracks or weaves they could have said okay well if you
Don’t have natural hair let’s make it all a puff or you get a afro wig or some wig that looks like it could be a natural hairdo of some sort but she told me that the administration told them that they had to wear weaves for uniformity purposes so again
You have these negro pins who are running these hbcus and they don’t want to be african that’s just the reality these people are anti-afro and so they don’t want you to wear your natural hair a lot of them uh they don’t want you to start for fraternities and sororities and other organizations that
Are african-centered hell they hardly want to teach african senate courses i mean people you know dr leonard jeffries and people of that sort they had to fight to get after to get african um oh my goodness it’s not african diaspora i think it’s african diaspora studies dr
Lyndon jeffries and a lot of them they had to fight just so we could get that declared as a major to have an african history studies program so these people are anti-african brother kenneth so again i’m not surprised that you all went to war with the morehouse administration
Yes and you know some sister sister um see it was several things that was taking place during the time of chemists inception uh number one it came off the heels of the nile valley conference there was a big thing that took place at morehouse college in 1984 when sheik antijoke was invited there
And it was a lot of people there including dr asa hilyard the organization ask and a whole lot of other significant uh black organizations at that time took place and it was a lot of great things coming out of that now valley conference that took place at
Morehouse college as a result of that now they got an offer list you know the uh right outside the morehouse chapel it’s beautiful but that right there was born from that 1984 now valley conference that was held in atlanta and scholars from all over the all over the
World came there to hear dr sheikh antago and those other illuminaries and scholars and so that was divine that’s what was happening that was taking place in atlanta and the a youth center and particularly at morehouse and it was and that right there was a watering hole for people like dr asa
Hilliard and a lot of other scholars and they were like really imposing their will in the think tank onto that environment and it was a lot of students who had latched on to that ask that association for the study of classic and african civilizations they had some strong footprints and fingerprints throughout
The au center and it was a big yearning and um a lot of great opportunities to wrap ourselves around our culture and the ancient chemist i mean uh i mean it was just it was infectious the environment that was taking place that was going on at
That time also during that time we had an explosion of all the t-shirts i mean people was walking around like human billboards you see see you know what i’m talking about like boy born in africa important from africa you know all those all those strong messages we had that’s
What we were wearing during the time he was competing to see where the most conscious t-shirt back then during campus spike lee spike lee was filming a uh filming the film um uh it was about the college it’s a college thing with uh it was so much brothers and sisters are
Breaking out into african attire and stuff i mean there’s more and more brothers and sisters traveling to africa during that time and so like when kevin came around it was like right in the cusp of all of that when that organization came also one thing that is
Important for me to mention is the year after chemic was established this it was insistence that spelman is established a sisterhood called our set which was a sisterhood to kevin our sin yes let me see if i could find some pictures of those sisters so yeah they were called i
Offline i can put you in touch with a few of them sorority yep i said sorority that’s right daughters of our set sorority incorporated yes yes i can put you in touch with some of them yes please do because i want those sisters on on on the platform you know
And have a conversation with them and then maybe bring you know the everyone together and we have a beautiful build on that beautiful so once the brothers got it started the sisters said oh yeah we’re going to start our own thing and so they end up doing that at spelman let me ask
You this who brought uh chic anti joke and and all of the other who brought them in who what made them have the conference of the nile there at morehouse who brought them in was it well the the dana the dean of the chapel of dr lawrence
Lawrence carter he is a very progressive um he’s a very progressive scholar and like he’s like um he’s a comrade of dr asa hilliard and i think dr hilliar had a strong influence on that okay and and and the ass act like uh oberdelli williams or dr john henry
Clark all of them would convene i think all of them had an influence on that but i think the person who made a lot of things accessible on the morehouse campus was uh was dean lawrence carter the dean of the morehouse chapel okay so they he made it happen but like
You said ace of hilliard doctor john henry called doctor said dr ben dr joe all of them kind of yeah yeah so everybody okay okay okay okay so they all made it happen yes it’s documented too you can you can look it up the 1984 now valley conference okay and you
Said it was out of that spirit and and what was going on at the time so spike lee was dropping different films do the right thing school days you know malcolm x um fever cosby show you know a different world that was the type of vibe you know that
Was going on back then you know a lot of us is really proud of who we are you know we’re proud of like uh i’m peeling some of those layers you know even in pop culture it was just really embracing yeah the music like you said the music back then you talking
About brand new being shout out to lord jamal brand nubian public enemy you know those spirit tribe called quest daylight soul leaders exactly come on exactly oh yeah so it was it was that that conscious vibe what do you think what do you think when did you see the
Switch brother kenneth when did you see the change i’d have to say i saw the change when even the pop culture and stuff is talking we’re talking about me me me me me you know what i have you know and more emphasis on the material things
You know then then we we we it turned into me me me me you know with the pop culture and the rap and stuff you can see the transformation the transformation you know and like and like the people we know i know i’m preaching to the choir but we know the
People who put the money out there and they’re very selective with what they may put out there in pop culture absolutely you know because that thing that fargo was preaching back in the 70s and stuff uh about subliminal subduction that’s real that subliminal seduction has a
Whole lot to do with the selection of what’s out there in pop culture because it’s still mind control a lot of people don’t want to see beyond that because a lot of people stuck like chuck on black or white and ignore the gray areas you know ignore the gray areas
And and and since the doctor i wrote a poem for a forum during that time they really spoke to where about chemic while chemic was necessary and what was going on and this poem was written back in 1989 and it’s still significant today and if you don’t mind i’ll share it with you
Please do please do brother kenneth who farm is entitled they don’t look like them playing with dolls that don’t look like them pink skin stringy hair barbie and raggedy ann they are honeycomber mahogany and complexion yet they devote their affection to dolls that don’t look like them they grow up daddy hair all
Burn blind or red as a result of the lies about beauty that’s been dancing around in their heads wearing contact lenses that make their eyes look green or blue if you tell them they hate themselves they would say that’s not true they can’t hear the congas beating in their soul they have
No idea that african role their role models of whoopi tina turner diane carroll and diana ross it’s a shame that their african consciousness is lost victims of the double consciousness that the boys had written about schizoid no doubt praying to an image that don’t look like them black folk must be a bit
Tipsy because that image of jesus looks just like a hippie fresh out of the 60s black folks will spend their money with folks that don’t look like them causing black merchants to raise their prices high just so they can get back black fresh and sororities call themselves greeks don’t they know that
The greeks were freaks and besides they don’t look like them the so-called white great white race put suntan lotion on body and face and spend millions in tennis and lines and equipment so that they can look like [ __ ] that don’t look like them they are black folks who
Won’t pause with kwanzaa or black cause but will put their babies on the knees of a santa claus that don’t look like them causing their bed causing their beds to spend their money on clothing and toys and witnessing smiles and joys of their offspring by giving full credit
To a obese pale skin snow white haired cherry cheek blue eye santa claus who didn’t do a damn thing for their offspring and don’t look like them they can’t hear the congas beating in their soul they had no idea that african role black folks flock into neighborhoods
They don’t look like them putting their babies in schools dominated by people that don’t look like them or no one in the family black folks black entertainers and athletes talk black walk black they even have black mamas yet they marry folks that don’t look like them they should change their names
To polly they should change their names to polly they should change the names of polly because all they want is a cracker to say this is not called for much bravery africans in america are the victims of chains and images of psychological slavery house [ __ ] filled [ __ ] why why
Why cause we’ve been fed a big fat lie lie lie and that’s why little black girls are playing with dolls that don’t look like them they can’t hear the congress being in their soul they have no idea of the african role my brother brother mitchell guess he
Said doctor my odd he said that brother gotta get that fire sound the chat they loved it look at it they said go ahead brother i’m just trying to show you the comments so i know that you can see it yeah they absolutely they absolutely loved it they said it was dead
They gonna make me stay they gonna make me share another porn with them look they said deep deep deep they said truth and facts truth and facts they said they said it was absolutely beautiful finger snaps yes yes that was that was powerful but like you said it’s still relevant you wrote the
Poem and you said 1980 what brother kenneth nine 1989 you wrote the book like what 30 years ago and everything that you said is still happening today brother kenneth i want to i want to ask you this um because we’re getting ready to close out but i want to ask you this
So is kim i send are you all still functioning do you all still have chapters um does the um a set sorority are they still functioning do they still have chapters where are these at where’s the african-centered fraternity today okay um basically kim it is still uh functioning
It’s basically during the co-vid we’ve had like about two what we call crossings that online online crossings you know and so like we’re hoping once the uh covered some size we be able to have physical gatherings but we worked out something where it was something we were talking about
For the longest um is just getting uh uh a affection of our brotherhood to be like community for the community we get brothers that we know doing the work in the community and let them be part of our fold so when we have like just if
I’m just here in atlanta by myself and i see like two or three brothers that’s like cool we like kindred spears and we can do some work together well we want to make them a chemic brothers but they got to go through this online thing so they can come be abreast of certain
Rituals and things they need to know so that’s something that we’re offering online to brothers you know that they have to be selected by our brother or or recommended by a brother that’s what we’re offering right now at the moment and yes all set um uh i know they’re doing some things i
Can’t elaborate on that but again i can put you in touch with some sisters for you to get that information okay and so when you say that so i have a cousin who’s currently attending morehouse he’s a sophomore so so i know you all because of kovit went
Online but i know they started bringing students back like this was the semester well we’re not doing nothing on campuses morehouse still won’t let us come on campus wow okay okay so this is kind of like a um i don’t want to say word of mouth but a
Brother has to be introduced and people you know and then kind of go through it okay so you all are on college campuses at the moment we’re not on our campuses we haven’t been on campuses for a while in fact we haven’t really uh been uh
Recruiting for a while it was just a need for the temp the temperament of where we are today in today’s society we said that it would be very um it would be very stingy on our parts not to enter reintroduce our brotherhood and what it has to offer to young black men
And so it’s something that we are very open to sharing with young men we were trying to insert back into campus communities is something that we’re striving for as i speak to you but that is our present circumstance as as i speak to you as well so let me actually there’s those elders
That had that were um fundamental in starting the fraternity they’ve transitioned i’m sure right no ma’am they’re still with us so those elders from that were there in the beginning you said in 1987 was 87 or 86 87 and they were elders back then so you said they still they’re still here the
Queen mothers let me say this all of them were from academia then academia all of them was our college professors wow and they’re still teaching wow wow 30 years old all of them are still teaching and if i gave you their name sister you probably you probably say i need some smelling sauce
[Laughter] if i gave you their names you would know each and every one of them wow let me put it like this i was blessed all of us were blessed to have those four elders guide us and steer us as me and those other nine brothers but we wouldn’t have been anything without
Our elders and without our queen mother we wouldn’t have been nothing without their guidance beautiful well you know baba and wylie mubarooti was down in moorhouse we had a gathering in his garage for some of our brothers we didn’t have no place to go for some our new recruits and he
Let us clear up his garage to have a meeting with them baba baruchi yes yes hey that brother is a he’s part of our legacy he’s part of our legacy that brother supported us when not too many others did he saw something and he supported us and
I got to give him a lot of credit and praise you know brother you know what in watermelon realty but i just want to throw that out there that he has to let us have what we called uh a h a gathering to recruit new brothers in his garage
Beautiful beautiful and his queen i never forget his coins my two of my favorite two of my favorite people absolutely they have a lot of my art in their home i’m an artist i can tell i can i can actually tell yeah i can tell that you’re artsy artsy type of
Brother and so brother kenneth zacchee we’re going to close out but do you have any closing words for the listening audience any closing words for the listening audience um i guess i do i just wanted to say that um you know covet novid you know these are some trying times
That we living in and they say trying times are times for trying and what we got to remember brothers and sisters regardless of what side of that debate you’re on we lost a lot of people and where we are today there’s a lot of people this morning you know and like
Gil scott here and say it’s truly winter in america but what we got to remember most importantly is that we are our ancestors answered prayers ain’t no accident that we are who we are and we are where we are today we prepared for this y’all we built for this
Just like our babies how how adept they are to like these electronics they can take your phone and start doing stuff that you can’t do they built for that and we built for this occasion we all ancestors answered prayers brothers and sisters let’s not forget a loota continua the struggle
Continues promotion to toshen day together we shall win forward ever backwards never thank you dr maher for having me on your program thank you for the great work you’re doing you know it’s so you’re so important to spread the word give people the information because all you’re doing
Is spreading hope and it reassuring that we are who we think we are we are our ancestors answered prayers so thank you so much for having me i wish you much success and your endeavors and anytime you call just remember i’m down the hall i appreciate your words brother let me
Drop a bomb for you yeah i just want to say to you um brother kenneth um i i salute you brothers you know from the bottom of my heart when i when brother devin um brought your organization to my attention i just i was just i was
Astounded i said oh my goodness i said this it was like a dream come true you know to have like an ad cause i’ve been saying where’s our african center fraternities and sororities where and he posted you all on facebook and i was my jaw dropped i said this was everything
That you know i would want your fraternity is everything that i would want for the youth the male youth in my family to be a part of my students to be a part of and so i just give thanks for for you uh for the vision that all of
The co-founders had in in coming together um to form you know a an african-centered um fraternity i give thanks for the carriage because that took carriage you know so you’re going at the administration the administration is not you know and so that took care of that took uh determination that took
Motivation that took uh perseverance and so i just give thanks um brother kenneth zaki for what you and you and the brothers um established i mean i mean words cannot express uh my gratitude and just to hear that you all have continued you know you’re like hey we’re not on
The college campuses but we’re still here we’re still here so brother kenneth i thank you i can’t wait to talk to those sisters who started the asset sorority sorority at um spelman i can’t wait to bring you know one of those co-founders on to talk about that why did they start it and
Kind of you know it and build with that sister so please put me in touch with her and how can people reach you how can you know parents who may say i want my son in that fraternity how can people reach you um in order to in order or not
Even just reach you but get in touch with somebody if they would like for their uh son to get involved with uh committed accent okay well they can reach me like um let me see uh they can reach me at um kenneth z dot kz at gmail.com kenneth z dot kz
Gmail.com also sister uh doctor i would like to encourage folks like like yourself even like we have so many people that have a wealth of information the reason kim it was uh came into being because we wanted it to happen so we we we’ve done it you know
I’ll be more than happy to talk to anybody about anything regarding starting your own i mean because it don’t have to be our model it just have to be an alternative to that greek stuff okay so i encourage people to do it just get together with
Some old people and make it happen in your community even if it’s not at a college visit a high school if it’s at a church it’s somewhere we can do it we got enough information and knowledge out here that you don’t have to rely on me or what
We’ve done we did it because we’re nobody else doing it come on come on okay we did we used what we had and made it happen just like mama mary but clown bethune she went to the junkyard and found some desks and school stuff to start her first classroom we used what
We had and everybody have y’all probably have more than i have more than they had so let’s just do it um as long as it’s an alternative to what we don’t like let’s just do it absolutely absolutely well thank you so much uh brother kenneth zakie for coming on i
Agree 100 with you like you said let’s just do it if there’s a need do it do it get it done get it done by any means necessary what the earthworm fire say they said a lot so what’s something they said they said if there ain’t no beauty
You gotta make some beauty you gotta mention now ah i say i a family join me back here tomorrow at 7 00 p.m eastern standard time uh the uh read book hub we’re going to discuss uh the fifth chapter of the myth and propaganda of black buying power by dr
Jared ball so i’ll be back live tomorrow at 7 pm eastern standard time no you don’t need the book or have read the chapter in order to join just come on in and join us 7 p.m tomorrow eastern standard time peace and black power let’s combat and fight back with male
Tracks the war of the minds they want control of the masses and common core it dumb is down in the classes without knowledge we can’t gain access built with the elders take notes and write classes we keep whining on the block how it’s going to stop let’s start
Supporting our own make their supply drop these five stocks cause we know the truth and we tuned in to dr maya
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