Uh got a feeling I got a feeling Brothers I got a feeling that somebody’s trying to sneak in my front and it ain’t gonna be no like that Because I like It is Oh my God Yo yo yo welcome to another episode of In The Cut iron your boy caress man this this is this is about to be beautiful this is gonna be beautiful uh uh as y’all know man we want to highlight different Greeks we want to bring different Greeks onto the show uh
Recently we have come across some things though that that kind of disturbed our spirit you know our Greek Spirit uh so we we got to talking and we said hey hold up we need to we need to have a conversation let’s talk about the denouncing of letters all right we
In the cut cut cut cut what up fellas how y’all doing yo wait a minute wait a minute it looked like y’all in the same what what’s going on here why am I left out this is uh this is caught me Pace we in the same place but we’re not in the same
Place it’s like the metaverse yeah okay uh how y’all fellas doing man how y’all how y’all living out there enter the group Mr you up sir where are you from previous shows glad to be back on I’m glad to have the distinguished guests that we have with us
The pre-production text message went out and ninjas don’t read they pre they text message this is what I’ll be talking about I take the time to write format of the show and I send it to send it through hey man look see five clubs for you that’s my Sunny so I’m I’m [Laughter]
Look at your name fraternity I mean if you want to kick it over to the ace Club I mean but I mean we’ll give we’ll give Affliction and then we’ll give it up no no no go ahead go ahead and kick it over man kick it you know what let my let my
Let my my ship show you how it’s done all right so Dr sir can you do that for me all right yes so I mean y’all heard me on in the cut and on the fellas and you know a member of the Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Incorporated you know new
Place uh spring 06 and I mean you heard me say seductive you know me so I think they answered most of the questions yeah thank you affliction can you do it right uh y’all know me Brandon I thought I captured this in the last episode but anyways nice uh writing that was spring
Go nine hey nope thank you IMB buying your boy caress dog number five Mac chapter where your chick chose me spring 2016. let me just get that right and you know I gotta I gotta show deference here ladies I’m so sorry I should have went I should have went to
My Pro fight first but as guests he’s gonna be the first guest introduced Dr Green can you introduce yourself for me please sir what’s going on everyone my name is Dr Larry Green remember a couple of Staff attorney Incorporated um spring 05 . and your and your beautiful wife please
My name is Eileen green I’m a member of Delta Sigma Theta s we’re already Incorporated Springdale five uh Alpha Omega chapter four toes that’s me all right and to the AKA in the room is Bianca can you introduce yourself that’s what I said actually like clicked to me and Larry
Was like wait what I know y’all let’s go sorry because I’m saying all right Miss Bianca can you introduce yourself yes I I am Bianca I am a proud member of the oh so pretty ladies of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority Incorporated Deuce Club um and I am spring 22. it’s like a fad
Going on right now where a lot of a lot of people I’m calling it a fad because well let me not say that because I want to be respectful of why people are doing it I want to be respectful of why people are doing it
Um but for those of you that don’t know uh over the last the course of maybe three to six months there’s been a lot of videos out there on YouTube on tick tock on Instagram Facebook of people that have pledged these organizations um whether it be Capital whether it be
Qdog whether it be AKA whether it be Sigma whatever Greek organization you could think of they’re they’re denouncing their letters and everybody has a multitude of reasons of why they are doing it uh what I would like us to focus on today would be uh the religious
Aspect because that’s that seems to be the number one uh topic when when people are talking about denouncing letters so uh first off man what what’s y’all’s thoughts on denouncing letters or giving up on something that that you work so hard to obtain of the father brother
All right so I’ll I’ll respond on the giving us something you work so hard to attain attain and then I’ll let the money touch on the denouncing letters part for which one do you want I’ll do the uh giving up something okay I’ll talk about the down some letters and it
Is gonna it’s gonna Bridge across you know all these different domains but one I mean everyone has their personal reason for doing something and as you said before we do want to respect people’s decisions and I will give kudos to people that are doing it for individuality and for a driven
Reason to do something of that magnitude because of the fact that it is something that’s been rooted in the history for a long time these organizations and I’ll dive a little bit more into it later and to the point you get to where you’re so fed up to whatever it is that you’re
Going to actually denounce it um takes courage but also the only thing I would Challenge and push back on is that at what level does it need to come to the internet I mean I know we’re talking about it on the internet right now too and because
Of the religious piece of it I think there’s a lot of things that can just be done behind closed doors if you’re really passionate about it in your personal relationship with Christ and uh but I’ll dive in too deep into that because I never want to come off
Anything as like judgmental of why someone’s doing it because you want to like see the message that they’re delivering it’s like the uh the pastor in your church that you can just tell it’s like living 100 bad but it’s not about what he’s doing it’s about the message that’s coming across
Um so there’s a lot of um goodness that could come out of something like this but I mean personally for me I never say never but probably never see me uh follow this suit but I’ll stop right there for right now um so my piece was the um giving up
Something you worked so hard for it will kind of go along the lines of what I would have said about even you know people denouncing their letters at some point in time if there’s a certain conviction that hits you you know there’s a lot of things that I think everybody is involved in
Especially the older you get technically if you’re making boss moves you’re going to be connected to different things and have different titles with that being said if there’s a conflict of interest based on what things that you are affiliated with then you have to prioritize which one do
You want to submit to more and then again on top of that there’s also the perception because you know you can have two people especially you know um looking at certain things they just they don’t see it that way so with that all being said I guess I
Would just say I will be willing to give up something that I’ve worked hard for but my convictions will have to they will have to be very strong okay yeah I I only because I’m not going to really deep dive into that one I would just say
Whatever people decide to do in their life I just need them to keep the same energy consistently across their life and and that’s where you get where even in the church where I’ve tried to everybody that knows me not be a hypocrite there’s things that I do wrong
And there’s there’s a lot of things that I do well but at the same time it’s not to be a hypocrite about it so I think a lot of people that are coming out I know a lot of people that are coming out with this you’re gonna have the people that
Really know them looking at every aspect of their life so you have to be careful in these moments of what message you’re delivering and make sure it can’t be pinpointed to something else that you’re doing on the fact of what she said something you worked so hard to give up
To but it doesn’t align with who you are as an individual are people going to be leaving their careers leaving members of their family doing a lot of these things in that same exact energy I just say you got to keep that same energy and that saying be consistent because I just said
This real quick is uh because that’s where like I said I know you say you want to be um respectful to everybody but that’s where it does starts to change into a fad if you don’t keep that energy across the table and and let me say why I call it a fad because
I almost can pinpoint the first person that did it on the internet and then every argument after that person was pretty much a copycat of that first person like there’s no end of individuality when it comes to why they are denouncing letters I mean everybody’s saying the exact same thing
And so the reason why I wanted to tackle the religious aspect of it first is because I mean let’s just jump in everybody’s going to kneeling at the altar worshiping a guy a Greek god um what’s another heavy argument um selling selling oneself for the for the for the purposes of an organization
Those are three big things that you hear so the first thing I kind of want to tackle us being noobs you know I mean and I’m not gonna sit here and and and go through our Ritz that’s just not something that I’m gonna do that’s some
Things are sacred you know what I mean but what’s what what’s your guys’s argument on hey you know look the the argument that the people will say that push back on it is by using the word sacred that they would say why does it have to be so hidden which I think
That’s a I think that’s a faulty argument that is one that is one of the ones I’ll be pushed out there’s a lot of things people do in private or to hide it yeah it doesn’t mean it’s demonic but yeah it’s hidden hidden because it’s I
Mean it’s not for everybody it’s not for everybody not everybody has built this way to be this you know what I’m saying so so what I want you guys just take I’m I’m gonna answer my own question first religiously when when people say it just doesn’t line up with my my religious beliefs
My take I’m gonna answer my question first my take is that foundationally speaking where were you at before you even pledged that’s my first question foundationally speaking where were you at before you pledged because if you if you were rooted within that religion I I just don’t want
To use Christianity I want I want I don’t want to leave any religion now if you were rooted in that religion you pledging into a Greek organization can’t change your foundation right yeah I would think that anyway and so uh I believe I talked to um one of our Pro fights uh the
Yesterday actually uh Big Brother g-rock and one of the things that he said to me was out of all the interviews that he sat in you know the one that comes to mind the most is mine is because they asked us a very specific question and my answer was I don’t need tapa
Kappa needs me now that’s coming from a foundational aspect where my dad’s a pastor my grandfather was a pastor you know I know what you know Greek Greek mythology is and and actually I love studying Greek mythology in high school I loved it you know what I mean
Um I thought it was very interesting but at the same time I don’t look at what I did with while I was pledging as you know kneeling before the god Apollo I just don’t right I’m like I was about to say so you said you ain’t got a tattoo of
Apollo on your back yeah I don’t but I just I don’t see that I don’t see I don’t see the correlation so that’s just my my point so right no that’s um and you hit on it I was gonna say uh for everyone that’s watched the fellows and I don’t know if we
Touched on too much in the in the cut but I mean all of us are uh you know follow Christianity and are all believers and it’s rooted if you go walk through a lot of our shows like you see a lot of it throughout the shows even fundamentally real quick go check out
Our episode on the church yeah we did we did and it’s rooted through a lot of a lot of things that we talked about and you can and when people are really listening you can hear that but it’s um so we’re not coming from a place of
Ignorance because that is the only thing that I would say and not to combat or debate with anybody on what their beliefs are at all is one thing I don’t appreciate and it’s probably the only thing you’ll hear me really speak hard on is the fact that I don’t I don’t
Speak on things that I don’t know anything about at all like there’s a level of getting to the understanding and asking questions but speaking of things you don’t know at all about as I could and one thing I didn’t appreciate in a lot of the comments are people that haven’t went through any
Process at all because everybody’s process is individual to them we were on the same ship we did a lot of things the same since it’s all supposed to be one but there were a lot of things that were still different individual to both of us so you really can’t compare
One process to another so I’m not even going to speak on the people that are denouncing their letters and that’s one thing I will give them they they’re about there are a lot of bad people in every single organization and there are a lot of people that shouldn’t be in these organizations they
Shouldn’t be leaders they shouldn’t be parents they shouldn’t be pastors but they make it their way into these organizations and they probably did make someone’s process go a little bit different than what it should have and I could so I don’t want to denounce what they’re denouncing for why they’re
Denouncing it but I will call out certain things of the people that have not went through any of these processes that have a lot to say you probably need to just close your mouth and just ask questions and kind of sit over there and just talk fundamentally from the surface but you
Can’t say what I went through that I was like serving some Demon or something I’m like yeah it was loud about a Jew like there’s videos out there people that didn’t pledge at all and it’s like you’re making a video about this like my cousin we had about a three-hour
Conversation about this about a year ago um he was in a word a whole lot and he was like man I don’t see how you pledged man that’s that’s against everything God stood for I’m like what uh no God is in here bro that’s that’s God’s in me so whatever I brought into
Kappa you know I’m bringing I’m bringing light to that area I’m not I you can’t and I’ll probably catch some pushback for this you gotta take some things with a grain of salt man like really like some things that we did I think as as
Three noobs on on this show we could we can say we could laugh about it now it was fun you know what I’m saying but sorry it was stupid yeah and you take it with a grain of salt it’s not something you know oh my gosh yes we’re kneeling before the altar
Of Apollo and we’re saying Apollo please you know do x y z for you know come on we’re not doing any of that we’re not yeah and that’s and that’s one of the things process but I know yeah nothing nothing I’ve ever seen on going through
A process and seeing a lot of different lines and I’ll leave it at that but it’s one thing I do want to touch on the piece that they said of serving and not push back for pushback just something for people to think on as you’re getting whatever information you get out there
On the net and even what we’re saying everybody has you know the right to their own understanding and their opinion doesn’t mean you get to speak on it even though we’re speaking on our opinions right now but but this is the uh serving two guys and if which piggybacking on what you
Said on what was your foundation before you went into this if you didn’t have a strong Christian and or religious type background coming into this I honestly can sit there and say how someone can come into and serve their Divine eye in that situation because of the fact of
That that bond that history that foundation so much stuff is there it’s so easy for you to come into something that’s bigger than a lot of people you know that’s why a lot of people join organizations because it’s bigger than them and what they’re doing and that
Turns into your God into your altar which I would say is 100 wrong you know speaking from my spiritual beliefs but that is still individual to the person you can’t attach that to an entire organization and last thing I’m gonna say before passing the Beats I know you’ve been waiting patiently right now
I’m good I’m soaking up the knowledge the thing that’s going to be a turn on I would say turn off to I would say to like every person if you’re getting the message out there don’t don’t do it for views I don’t even know what ship is
Going to title this episode but at least title it what it’s supposed to be and when somebody titles an episode and I actually watched one of those like Witchcraft and demonic practices in broad daylight and then you talk about that for four minutes out of an hour and a half just
Because you at that point in time I’m gonna like do you just trying to get views because you just want people you want it to be click bait and that’s something I’m gonna say is uh that’s foul honestly man so far if you can hear the sirens in
The back it’s Criminal you know um no man y’all y’all hit on a lot of it you know like you say every process is different um shoot in my Pro you know and that course not going no detail but faith is Faith is me you know I I have a strong faith
Uh faith base I know we say religion because we’re covering all you know all religions however with that being said let’s say we talked about it on the fellows one time I’m strong in my faith with God so even some things that people say it’s kind of already inferred that like hey
This is the given that you’re going to put these other things first so if I say hey go in you know do this I’m assuming that like if I told you to go do something you’ve already checked if I go tell your kid my nephew you know what I’m saying to go do
Something I’m expecting for there to be the um like he’s going to check all those boxes like hey did this person who stays in the house and my daddy say this you know what I’m saying maybe did my you know Mom did this person say that you know grandparents wherever I’m at on
That pecking order so baseball for me God and my faith is number one so everything after that if somebody would say go do it it’s gonna be like well if it’s not in alignment what you know I’m saying what something that God has told me to do I feel as I stated
Earlier convicted in my heart I’m not gonna do it anyway and can’t nobody change that about me because I’m everything that I do is Rudy even down to my family members there’s family members I don’t mess with because of the fact that it’s like hey
That ain’t how I rock you know and I ain’t judging them that’s their life but what at the end of the day that ain’t how I rock so yeah I think we all could we could talk speak on that a little bit I mean we’ve we’ve have we’ve had a real
Life example of of something that’s contradictory to what was being said earlier and you know I’m saying and and we made we make decisions based on based on that so I’ll be like hey I feel like this there’s a lot of people that would love to be in a Greek organization there’s
People obviously um there’s people still pledging in it today I mean as we there’s a line probably that crossed today somewhere in America there’s a line that probably crops or some somewhere this evening I would say this for those that that want to denounce I would almost push you know not push
Back on it but I almost agree with my ship and that it doesn’t have to be done publicly if that’s what you believe and that’s your and that’s what your choice is take your ball and go home and quiet and just leave it at that it’s not
Something that so and again I can’t give a quick push back on something you both said but what I will say um a little caveat to it is the pushback up I have no problem with nobody and I don’t know what you’re about to say and I got
Something else for that go ahead bet so I don’t have no problem with somebody doing it publicly I do know some people gonna do some things just for attention and some people are like hey I’m actually convicted to go and preach what I believe is the word and I have I could
Never tell somebody like hey you don’t have to do that publicly because that’s what we are called to do however what I will also say if you’re doing that it also teaches not to condemn because at the end of the day a lot of the verbiage that’s being used yeah you throw some
Stuff out there and you’d be like like you said earlier I don’t see how you do that like you if you’ve given the word or if you plant a seed to somebody or maybe educate them then let God do the water you know let let whatever is if
It’s supposed to be that way God will do the watering within that nature but shoot maybe day actions is already so pleasing the guy a guy like not if that is some guy like I’m not worried about they doing something above and beyond but yeah stop condemning people for whatever
Decision they’re making because at some point in time you’re probably doing something that you could be condemned for and that’s great having that grace and mercy and you’re going to get more people if you’re really doing this for a conviction you’re gonna get more people
Who’s going to be like well let me at least think about it not saying that they gonna do it but they’ll be more inclined to think about or listen to you if you stop the condemning about it like you didn’t do this okay now you’re going
To hell last words you ain’t got no hell to put me in nor no any heaven so you know what I’m saying we both out here on Earth just listen I um I would say I’ve probably watched three of these videos and a quarter of another one and
I was like all right I’m done with this they’re not even delivering their message well I would say one of the videos I watched was actually the longest one even though it was sped up on 1.8 or whatever you do if you can do a YouTube
Um they actually did a good job of no condemning throughout their entire time I didn’t have a problem with it’s like they really preached they they talked about their their message and their Deliverance of Christ which was fine and but that’s one reason I had an issue
With their title like just label it something else just talk about how you came to Christ you’re deliberately tying this to the announcing of your letters even though no you just needed to find Christ baby girl what you were doing out there was the same thing that there was
Probably some other undergrads doing that didn’t have nothing to do with your sorority you’re just gonna probably do it at a lesser magnets yeah if you were a GDI and then also one thing I would challenge everybody is too is because of the fact you have a lot of people that
Have not granted you might want to get the message out to people that are considering um joining any type of organization hopefully it’s not just a Greek organization where they need to look at the values and how people are operating the organization because that applies to everything
Um turn off the comments if you’re delivering a message from the cry from Christ turn off the comments because there are going to be a lot of people that are going to be in there condemning where I was somebody I knew there was a reason I didn’t do that my whole family
Did and I did it and I told him it didn’t make sense and that’s why I didn’t make it and I was like yeah I’m sorry oh you didn’t get or you didn’t get picked you didn’t I’m sorry you didn’t get picked you know I’m saying
Like or it’s always like don’t try to go in there and add a whole bunch of stuff to the message that’s taken away from Christ if there is a message from Christ to be delivered right now there’s a lot of so-called Christians in the comments ruining that I have like one more thing
I’m gonna say but it’s not on this topic so I’m gonna be quiet for a little bit I have my frozen well I I just wanted to keep this short just be on the lookout we are um looking to to have some akas have have a few more noobs if we the more
That we can get on this topic man I know y’all losing light so I want to go ahead and then wrap this up a little bit um but we want to get out here and talk about it and and comments down below and uh look out for
Part two yeah I did I did have one on the last thing and I have my clothes on because I was about to say my diamond always shine like but you know that’s another thing people said because you say you like the light you know like we
Taking the place of Christ I’m like stop yeah I don’t everything I’m taking the place of Christ he shines through me and my light comes out in my case you know in different ways in a lot of different ways but um you’ve heard things like this forever
I mean most people that’s watching shows know I’m in the military even though there’s a lot of people that’s alive in this first world country and don’t deal with certain things and there’s people who said every demonic thing they can say about the military but people just like I said uh defund
The police and all these type of things everybody has something to say until they realize the benefits that’s coming from something that are there and I’m not going to say that’s what divine nine is even though it’s doing that in a lot of different uh organizations and communities but um
The the only other thing I will leave there is which if you’ve heard us talking about a lot on the fellows is you know black excellence and a lot of things and I think the thing that bothers me the most is this and I love all people
Is why is it that in our community every time something is good and it’s foundational people find a way to try to tear it down yeah pastors politicians um like people of like dignitaries and magnitudes actors actresses ball players all these people that young black people
Are looking up to do they want to be and these organizations have led some people to some uh success or you know built that Foundation to open up those doors for them that we didn’t have the same thing with hbcus I didn’t go to HBCU but
When people talk bad about it I kind of feel some type of way like that’s our stuff so as big as you know these organizations are in our community and the people that are working in them I feel like it’s another thing you have to kind of consider this and I’ll leave
This for the thought is we talk about demonic forces and breaking things down and I’m not saying there’s not some good religious stuff out of this that people need to look introspectively themselves but where’s the double busy even in this topic and that’s why we’re trying not to
Tear anybody down while other people are doing that to try to break down our community and break down each other to have people feuding it’s like two black actresses can’t be in the same movie you know that’s so-and-so movie why they’re doing that why that said why Chris Brown
Seen that song that’s Trey Song like that stuff is is ignorant to me it is so ignorant like you don’t see that in other communities Blake Shelton can be good and Toby Keith can be good but in our community we always got to like Feud I’m gonna leave it there
Because that’s right uh and yeah so this is our panel of guests our steam guests here uh we gonna get right into it we gonna get right into it so first things first we got some noobs in the room we got an AKA in the room we got a Delta
Room first question I have for the group what made you guys join your respective organizations I’m gonna kick it to miss Bianca first what made you want to be an AKA well um I think it all started with my mentors um just by the characteristics they embody
Um I felt like I fit right in so um I also wanted to be a part of something bigger than myself and based on our principles of course Sisterhood scholarship and service to all mankind I felt like I fit writing um and as far as going above and beyond
Of course you know our current vice president Kamala Harris is the Lady of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority Incorporated and I feel like we just hold ourselves to a higher standard and that’s what I’m about so yeah all right Miss Eileen spring 2K5 I mean six all right we gotta let that go but
Um to be honest who wants to be a part of anything other than the best sorority you know ever um that’s kind of where I always landed at where I always wanted to be I knew that Delta Sigma that doesn’t incorporate what’s the best I want to be a part of the best
I love how we embody Sisterhood um I grew up with a big family but I was like the youngest and all my sisters were older so I love that um idea of like sisters and women like keeping it strong keeping it together I also love the idea of just giving back
To the community we’re all about community service and fellowship and uh scholarship and all things just giving back and just being a mentor and having mentees that all inspired me and I just want to do the same thing for other um other girls just make it possible I just
Think that the Sigma Theta sort of Incorporated embodies that and I wanted to be a part of it same screen Mr Dr Green Man what made you want to be a noob hey y’all that’s pretty hard act to follow well I’m gonna be honest when I was younger I think I
Was in high school um I stayed up to about two three o’clock in the morning this one you had regular TV and uh there was a step show on TV and they had like all different stuff um Fisher and sororities come out and stepped all the sororities came out stuff
All the returns came out stuff the signals came out you know I seen the crowd you know kind of sitting there not really saying anything the megas came out it was a little hype Alphas came out real quiet um but then like all the lights went out
And then use this here like to you just see like the screen just shaking and they’re like here come the nukes here come the Noose I’m like you hear him I’m in high school three o’clock in the morning I’m sitting up like what what’s going on and then they show a flash I’m
On the screen they all had canes I’m like what they about to do with that so they all just threw them up in the air and they call them and then they start stepping with the canes I’m like and everybody just rushed to the front all women people just rushed to the
Front I’m like what is about this fraternity or these people everybody likes so much so when I get to school the next day I see my teacher he had a cane in his room I never paid attention to that cane that was in his room I was like
So I asked him about it and I was like you know something that’s going to be my professional and I want to be a teacher so I started asking a little more information about it coming you know learn a little bit more about when I got to college one of my best
Friend he had them joining he was talking man it’s one of the best things in the world and it made me want to become a member and I was just like seeing my teacher see my best friend I knew in my heart that’s what I wanted to
Do seeing all the women left the rest of the stage that was number one probably but just just seeing how he carried himself as a teacher how my friend was a good friend to me I just knew in my heart that’s what I want to do and
All the community service that they do all the things my teacher’s been doing for me he still do things for me to this day and I was like you know some that’s what made me want to do man good answer babe I Larry be in our Pro fight I don’t think
I got choked up listening to the answer I’ve never heard it before I didn’t know he was gonna end at the ladies rushing the stage I was like baby you gotta clean it up a little bit okay all right let’s see the rest will happen
At the end when I was like oh man where is it going because they actually lost that stuff show on purpose at the end but I just believe like that you know what thanks for bringing it together as my ship I don’t think I’ve ever heard you answer this question
Either what made you want to be a new man so it really is um echoing on what Bianca said being a part of something that’s bigger than you and I’ve done most of that most of my life and even being in the military being a new playing sports being a captain on
All my sports teams also being a captain of my ship I just feel like it was something that uh everything that’s out there and not to Echo a lot of things that you know Larry just said as well it’s you know community service Brotherhood all of that successful black
Man and I I got to get big upset and I said this I was a little bit late I was one minute late today everyone so I didn’t get all the the pre of how are we going to edit and everything in from the previous part so I may Echo a little
Something I said before but anyhow we pretty much um it’s it’s all about the Brotherhood Brotherhood is big for me and you know with B money and um caress that’s a lot of different things that we’ve done and y’all seen us on the shows and stuff
Like that so being able to step into something like that that exhibits all of that and I got a lot of love for all the divine nine seeing black Excellence out there you see we on the fellas we say Excellence realize achievement in every field in uh human Endeavors with the
Noops the the greatest Fraternity in the world exhibits I feel like that’s something I should be a part of and to be able to spread that type of Love whether somebody that’s part of divine nine other brothers and even showing you know black Excellence to the Community
America out there so being able to do that by representing some letters as well too I think that’s a good way to go about it so that was that was the starting point all right Mr affliction all right so as uh keep 100 honest my brother he was a new that’s what first
Interests me and I said to my brother but my brother’s entitled entire line was my brother’s you know I met them when I was in high school and I’ve been close as we spoke about numerous of times uh b-bond we brought caress you know been knowing him for over 20 years
At that time and known for a long time and to be honest what really made me one become new was something that my uncle said who uh happens to be a sigma he said whatever you do he was like you don’t ever want to be your organization
Then your name you want to be your name then your organization so you don’t want to be the uh the new branding you want to be branding know who happens to be a new so I started watching you know my brother I watch other organizations as I
Got introduced into it and saying this uh next level of just overall black Excellence as a whole and um I just excellent you know take out the black excellent but just excellence and people who look like me being excellent and doing something great and everybody that I was meeting was not their organization
Then their name I knew them as individuals where I saw them before I even saw their organization which made that organization be greater because it was individuals who were about something and doing something and it just let’s say it spoke to me because I don’t like wasting my time and they weren’t about
Wasting my time it was about educating and elevating so you know I got in where I fit in because it just matched me all right and I think I’ll say I I’m gonna keep my short stored or my uh story short I became a newborn Capper because I didn’t have any other choice
My mama sat me down when I was a senior in high school we were looking at colleges um and when I had finally decided where I was going to go to school she was like all right it’s time for us to have this conversation she was like did you know
Your grandfather was a nuke at that time I was like nope I didn’t know anything about Greek life um and she was like well your grandfather was a new and Lord rest his soul when he passed she said you’re not going to be anything else she
Said it’s cool when you get to school you’re gonna hear stuff about it’s black and gold you don’t hear stuff about this blue and white this purple and yellow don’t pay any attention she said the first time you hear something about Kappa Alpha Psi you run to wherever it is they tell you
You need to be and you sit your butt down and you listen I said yes ma’am and that’s that’s what happened I didn’t pay anybody else any attention as soon as they said something about Kappa Alpha Psi I remember going to uh the hat at that time sitting down and
Listening to these men talk um and they brought this girl named Diamond in there I’m just gonna be honest with you I’m just being honest they brought this girl named Diamond in there and she said Kappa Alpha Psi is the greatest fraternity ever created and I’m a cap of
Diamond and I said um hmm yes Lord yes Lord and I was hooked that was y’all can ask our A.D uh big bro when we have our big brother uh carnivore on the show he’ll tell you that exact same story she said he’ll tell you be bomb
Fell in love with diamond we couldn’t get rid of her after that we doing she all right she good all right so good man so with that being said we all know there’s stigmas out there um with fraternities and sororities I wanted to take this time to kind of we
All said why we wanted to join and why we ended up being where we were did we hear any bad things was was there stuff that we heard coming up about why we shouldn’t go Greek is there what kind of stigmas do you guys did you guys hear before you before you embarked
On this journey I’m gonna start off with Larry I I never heard anything bad about it um my best friend told me some things he was doing um but it never turned me away uh it kind of made me want to be a little bit more interested from what I’ve seen and the
Way my you know former High School teacher carried himself it was never anything bad it was all everything was good it’s like man why would you not want to become a member of this fraternity um so I didn’t hear anything bad what about you miss Eileen you hear
Anything bad I didn’t hear anything back I think for the most part it was almost just those stigmas on like which sorority was better in a sense like oh akas are stuck up Deltas are about their business that’s super professional and anything below was just unacceptable in a sense no offense out there
Outside of Delta AKA I’m not saying like nothing is good enough but I’m just saying like those were just different stigmas that had already like been told you know about the organizations that I was interested in so it was always like well I guess if it’s not going to be
Delta AKA for me Delta it wasn’t going to be anything so I think mine was just like the stigmas that people put on you know the sororities as like kind of like a characteristic in a sense but that’s not a bad no it was all good
What about you miss Bianca being the the youngin in the room uh we we are 10 years plus in the game over here what what have you heard you know as coming up in in the new school did anybody try to sway your opinion on
On before you became an AKA or was it something you just it was all all good things um well as far as swaying my opinion it could never be swayed but um because I always knew I wanted to be an alpha woman um I do have plenty of friends that are
Part of Delta Sigma Theta Incorporated but um the stigma that I did here was um buying friends so you know those who really are ignorant to Devon nine they really I guess have no idea of what it’s about the connections that you have the Brotherhood The Sisterhood so I think
That’s probably my only stigma that I’ve heard was um we buy friends so um oh you got jumped in to get your friends and something like that I don’t know I don’t necessarily I don’t I never thought of it that way um but it was something I definitely
Thought about before I I started on my journey I’ll I’ll almost say that without the support of others around me I might have maybe not have done it only because it was like I heard more bad things about doing it than I did good um at that point in time in my life
Um I just didn’t know any I didn’t know any capitals I didn’t know any signals I didn’t know any cues or anything like that so I didn’t have anything to go off of other than I went to this informational and this is what my mama told me I
Couldn’t look at nothing else so um to hear my friends tell me they couldn’t have seen me as anything else other than that Kappa I think I think you know I got uh be money here Andrew here but friends other than that growing up like oh when I tell
Them oh yeah I’m a Noob and I I couldn’t see you anything else I knew it from the day you were born before and that’s what you were going to be that’s been in your it’s in your blood so I just wanted to see if anybody else had any like
Negative connotations along with being Greek or anything like that well I could say I never really had any negative connotation I would I would say that our return is based off Christian principles so that was one of the many things when I did my own research and uh you know researching about Capital
Attorney Incorporated that you know our the basis of our of attorney is based on Christian principles and the things that we do that’s that’s what also drew me into it so it was closer to church um and I even met a few pastors and deacons when I went to school when I
Went to college that was also part of the church and it was also members of capital attorney Incorporated that also kind of like grew me and kind of helped me and tutor me and Mentor me and it was a great stand up man I didn’t see any negative negativity come my way against
Just it was my own experience so I’m kind of glad I didn’t but haven’t seen professional people doing great thing mentors do in this capacity I always looked at it like man this is there’s no other way this is a great return there’s no other way so I believe all of our organizations
Have have some sort of Christian principles yeah in them so what do you guys say to those that say nah man y’all worshiping Greek gods over there it’s stuff that Greek organizations based off of Greek deities well I’ll say it it really comes down to that particular chapter in the members
Of that particular chapter and whether they are influencing on those younger Generations that’s trying to become members of that fraternity whatever because I would say I ain’t gonna say what chapter it was but I tried to stop a guy from dropping from our fraternity that was
Part of you know going through a chapter in but his whole mindset was the guys who I’m aligned with the big brothers Pro fights they don’t want to come to church with me and not when I was like man that’s kind of messed up why would they not want to
Do that his whole thing was you know he wanted he want to create this Brotherhood these guys not coming to church with them they’re doing other things and I think that’s what individual chapters or individual brothers that are not showing like such like a a good role model good mental to
These younger guys when they see that and they see them a little bit different from what they thought was going to be it kind of makes them give that stigma that oh they’re not you know having having the same principles as me or the same Christian background I grew up with
That they’re not the same people and then I guess that’s where negativity starts coming in and start to flow people’s minds and start thinking other negative stuff about certains and sororities be as the pastor of the group what what what’s your thoughts on it man
Uh as bridge I I like just to quickly touch on the you know bad things that I heard I did hear some things religiously um what religion but you know I’m not about religion I’m about relationship you know I ain’t gonna preach to y’all today but with that being said
Um because when you understand there are certain practices in a lot of different religions but it’s about what is your relationship with God so that never steered me away from it you know however again you know um knowledge said he said that hey there’s different chapters that
Do different things I know chapter that I’m part of that was part of um they’ve always the Bible was a part of you know everything we did we had to know well at least we yeah we have to know scriptures there were certain things that was you
Know given to us to help us stay strong and keep pushing or you know our because it’s not just they built something they built Us in something that uh we like say a foundation for us to grow and that was based on Christianity and I didn’t
Have that issue my all my brothers they came to hear me to preach you know my lbs came to hear me to preach they came to church with me when I asked them they was respectful so it’s like anything it’s not even the divine nine there are people now that
You go out here who are just they go to the same school as you and won’t do things go to church so like I say I just have my um I get where they’re coming from if I’m being honest but I don’t agree I respectfully disagree
Because of the fact that I hate when people take things and just put it towards as you know my brother said one organization is like arterial motive that you have to try to take something down versus actually just letting it be what it’s going to be and speaking on
Your own experience and that’s the other thing I hate when anybody talk about something that they’ve never experienced so you know as your brother not said he said hey there’s gdis who who have all of these opinions on something is like you don’t know nothing you so hey I I wasn’t going to
Circle back on the negative things I heard but I do want to touch back on the organized games piece and what you said where somebody’s trying to break something down and this is just from my thought process and what I’ve heard I’ve never heard anyone uh for like a pwi for
Predominantly like white organization call it an organized gang I’ve only heard that related to our divine nine organization so and it’s usually from our people so that’s something that always is uh grinds my gears as Peter Griffin would say because of the fact that we’re doing it to ourselves in a
Lot of situations and what’s the ulterior motives like what you said be so let me hear from the ladies real quick because from A New Perspective we could talk to you about you know the Christianity piece behind what we do um and and the principles in which we’re
Guided by and things that nature are the ladies governed kind of the same way or is it something different no absolutely how my husband articulated it was perfect for me because I feel like there are people who are naturally not going to know about an organization and based
Off of what they think they know will make assumptions about what we do or what we represent but unless they do the research unless they’re here with us unless they understand the relationships that we built with the organization with our profits um most of the best part about me being
A Delta is the relationships that I have for with my sorority such as my line my profiles my grand profile is just that alone brings me brought me closer to God because of you know their relationship with God and them encouraging me and inspiring me to be closer to God so with
My experience I never experienced that but with you know just the stigma of what people outside of our organization think yeah I mean they can obviously have their opinions to break down an organization that they don’t even know about or to just speak on something that you know
They don’t care about nor do they understand the big impact that we have you know on our community so I agree with my husband per usual for one I think I’ll say um so after watching a few videos on Tick Tock and Facebook of people denouncing
Their letters I think what I saw in common with them was um the principles as far as them putting their organization before God so I feel like it all comes down to how you organize your principles so for me it’s you know God family AKA is after so they
Compare you know the Divine organization to you know God and holding it on the same level in reality you know one is more Superior than the other so I feel that if you allow yourself to think that hey you know oh we’re worshiping this organization above God that’s your
Individual thoughts you can’t speak for the whole organization or the whole Divine eye because all of the organizations are christian-based so um that’s just what I saw in coming with everybody them basically allowing themselves to believe that one is more Superior than the other and I also think
That when you when you say that Bianca I’m thinking about even like our Channel like all of my life my piece of Happiness I’m gonna give it to Delta like if you don’t know what that really means The Outsider would think that that is what we’re putting above God like all
Of my life my peace and happiness those are things that you will tell you know God Christ you know but it goes hand in hand with that belief like like you said organizing your priorities and if like I said if you don’t understand what that means from the outside of perspective
They’re like what see there goes that cult you know I think I I totally understand how someone who would not unders know our organization or be a part of it could say like what what does that mean you know so yeah I’ve always said foundationally like when I’ve seen those videos because
Like you Bianca I did a little research before we started on here um and that that was the The Burning question I had what was your foundation like before you joined this organ your your organization was your foundation rooted um in Christianity or or believing in
God or in higher power or was it something that that it was kind of like on the back burner for you and you yourself then put that organization and and the principles of that organization ahead of God I think one thing that I’ve always tried to do um
Me myself no matter what I do I Take God with me God’s a part of me he’s on the inside of me so therefore there’s nothing that Kappa Alpha Psi could tell me about my diet because I have a personal relationship with my God and I can nobody’s gonna shake that
Foundation and I think sometimes people get lost in the organization and that Foundation might not have been there previous to you doing anything within that organization if that makes sense rather than uh be if I can say this real quick because it’s funny and it’s ironic and as I
Stated I’ve been in church all my life and uh But the irony that I say behind it is the same way that a lot of people are attacking these Greek organizations Christianity is attacked the same way they take bits and pieces of the scripture of what they believe is to be true and
Be like well judge you know the judge not unless he be judged and they start halfway quoting stuff and if you don’t go back or if you don’t read the full chapter then no you’re taking it you know out of his true meaning and as it was already perfectly said so I don’t
Need to say anything else if you hear a chance or you hear somebody say something you don’t understand the you know full totality of it and so now you’re taking that bit and pieces of it and you’re doing so it’s funny that some people are even attaching Christianity
As being their reason of why they want to denounce their letters because it’s like you should understand on both sides you know the coin that struggle is the same so what are you rooted in and and that kind of that leads us too so we we’ve seen these videos we’ve
We’ve done uh part of uh before you guys came on I kind of asked you guys to look it up a little bit so when you see these videos and hear people denouncing your letters and and almost basically giving away um what happens within the fraternity or
The sorority how does that make y’all feel as as members of of the fraternity or sorority I’ll kick it to Bianca first I think my name might be with the denouncing of the letter publicly was them actually doing it on a platform so we see all these videos that
Are coming out on tick tock on Facebook and they have every you know right to feel how they feel um but it’s opinionated and so you can do this in private so I say that to say they have these platforms um where they get these views and so
I feel like it’s kind of clout in a way you know they’re following the trend or you know they’re wanting to be seen or heard and now I’m kind of feeling like it’s you know it’s Cloud chasing in a way so you can do everything you’re doing on your platform or the social
Media platform in private so why are you doing it publicly that’s my question so okay all right the greens how does that make y’all feel when y’all when y’all see stuff like that you can go back because I really don’t have a way uh I only seen like a few of
Them and like Beyonce said it kind of seemed like a little Cloud chasing when let everybody know like you really don’t have to let everybody know but I really feel like what really happened for you to denounce something that you joined something that you played something that you bled over
If you bled over um to not want to continue that and you know and help others change their life because you being at fraternity sorority could have the next person uh even if you’re not you never turns Road you still have the next person but what made
You decide to join the fraternity of sorority and decide to just denounce it like what so bad happened or what are you seeing what what are you only seeing that’s making you think like that to change your whole mind mind State um I’ve seen some some negative parts
For my fraternity of people who I I don’t I don’t really kick with but also seen some great things and I I guess I just stay with the great things that I see uh especially for some of the passes that I’ve met um and and that hold me down there are
Mentors that’s what I say I don’t stay with the negativity stuff to sway my mind to change it up to oh you know somebody keep looking at this negative stuff all day I’m going to denounce something because I see negative stuff all day nah I kind of stick with the Positive stuff so
Me I don’t get it why people would denounce it because especially if you’ve been in it so long like people are still gonna think you’re part of that fraternity story those pictures um you back in the day in your fraternity sorority shirt it’s still there it’s
Like like Beyonce said it’s kind of like just doing it for likes or I don’t know I I don’t get it I really I mean for me you don’t have to you don’t have to do anything publicly you don’t have to tell everyone that like for every move that
You make we’re in a world where you want everyone to know you know that’s our culture now like we have all these different social media platforms so in a sense it’s like yes clout but that is the norm now like denouncing something for the world to know to diminish
Something else you know or I don’t know to put this new idea or this bad these bad ideas out about black organizations but that’s that’s also about like kind of like oppressions of black people where we have something that is built and empowered in something that’s inspired inspirational to people for
People to see as as black people and then we always do something to diminish that um that organization or because if it is the look of how we’re growing something and the way we’re doing it through networking through scholarship through service I just feel like there’s always something and
Sometimes it’s with our own people where we’re tearing down an organization to make yourselves seem oh so much better and I just think that you can denounce your letters but you don’t have to do it publicly like you don’t even have to tell anyone to do
It if you feel in your heart that that’s something that you you know should not do or that that’s not for you anymore like okay don’t pay your dues sorority sisters I’ll talk to you you know like just disaffiliate yourself you know privately but I don’t understand the culture of
Everyone has to know but that is us now that is our new Norm like everything has to be seen every step that you make every decision that you take every walk that you make with whoever it has to be seen and shown it’s not even clout it is like now the norm so
Yeah I think I think uh Jew had said something like this previously as well um about um how people get out and do it publicly um one thing I will say is that um Dr knowledge said something about bleeding over I don’t know anything about that
Um I did not bleed over Kappa Alpha Psi uh I sweat I put a lot of work in I put some work in you know with my community service and things of that nature but I just wanted [Laughter] I do want to say something about the public piece as as we’ll say sometimes
I’m a only thing I’m not gonna push back because I agree everything agree with everything everyone’s saying but what others were pushed back on is if you’re proclaiming your faith and doing something with God you should do it publicly and I get that but then again I think it
Does become the individual because there’s probably some of these people and I haven’t looked at everybody’s backstory that’s created these videos you probably have some people that don’t post at all and all of a sudden now they come out posting publicly I was like you don’t even have the consistency of how
You’re doing your entire life because there’s some people that post everything anyway so yeah yeah you should do this publicly because um yeah if you’re going to talk about Christianity but my biggest issue with all of it and I’ve said this before is how hard people go or you could expose
Rituals or just processes or other things that were secrets that most people say why does it have to be a secret but it’s like wasn’t there’s a lot of things that people do in their life that isn’t meant for everybody else to know so why did you have to come out
And at that point in time I could only target it with you’re just trying to get clout you’re trying to get views because if you want to do that you don’t have to spend an hour and 45 minutes I mean we’ll spend less than that between six
People talking but it’s just you don’t have to spend as much time on it as we people are if you’re going to preach the sermon go preach a sermon and just talk about your Christianity but don’t really tie it to this because that’s where you’re actually going to take people and
I’m a devout Christian and everybody that’s around me knows that but you’re going to detract from the message and the love that is out there that you know Christ wants to lay on the world based off the way that you’re attacking an organization as Sam said over there I
Don’t think it’s really necessary especially to bring down our people so that’s something I just I don’t like to see in our community or just in general tear it down you know but isn’t that what we do I mean perfect example I mean look at Kanye West he’s doing it right
Now like he’s tearing down bit by bit everything that he’s built everything he’s losing it all and one one day after the next so as a people I feel like that’s what we do we we latch on to something and then the next thing you know you know what they wronged me or
They did something wrong for whatever reason so I’m about to go out and I’ma attack it and I’m gonna make sure as a people you know I’m Gonna Keep I hate to say like this this is another way for you know the George Chauvin is to keep their knee on
Our necks but we’re doing it to ourselves in a way because we want to keep attacking our organizations there’s some great things that AKA does here in the state of Indiana um in Indianapolis I know I’ve been a part of there’s some great things that Delta Sigma Theta does
In in St Louis Missouri I’ve been a part of it there’s some great things that Kappa Alpha Psi does I’ve been a part of it but nobody ever brings that stuff out they always want to just talk about the next big thing of well I heard this happen and this kid
Got hurt now this kid’s in the hospital whatever the case may be and then you have things like movies that come out like The Burning Sands or the movie hazing that’s on PBS right now they literally show one side of our organization they don’t show the after
They don’t show the work they don’t show the meaning they don’t show the research they don’t show symbolism they don’t show any of that they literally only show one side which is what people think they know what they think happens and that is like the furthest from what any
Of our organizations stand for it’s crazy to me it’s mind-blowing they’ll they’ll show how they can take an inner city kid off the hood send them to college get a doctor degree teaching University uh because he is a member of attorney he’s he mentored that little kid they don’t show that part
Not a kid is reaching other people they don’t show that part well they don’t show how like for me I’m a step coach at every school that I’ve taught at from elementary school to high school I’m at Francis High School District right now have a step saying like literally that
Inspired kids to go to college not to just go to college knowing that there is an organization in there in educational post you know grad educational uh future where they can be a part of something like that made them want to go to college that inspires them like they
Don’t understand those stories and I just I don’t get it I don’t get why people want to just show what they the flashy part of what what they think is like more entertaining over like what we really stand for and I would really like
To see a movie that hits on that to be honest like to just give us give give the full circle of what the organization stand for what the Divine night really means or even what what they would think a black organization stand for because they never ever say like oh you know
It’s never a movie about the actual divine nine it’s like you know a made-up organ you know it organization that they come up with but I would just like to see more of like the whole 360 of our you know of what it means to be black Greek you know
If anybody wants to produce that out there I mean I would volunteer my services to act it in if you need I got you well it’ll be me but someone out there that’s the thing I I remember I don’t know if you guys ever saw that movie
With Bernie Sands is that on Netflix I did it was horrible and I got so many questions from people after that movie like you did that you took part in that I’m like what are you talking about and I went and watched the movie and I was angry after I watched that movie
I was literally angry um because they it was all a lie I can’t it was exaggerated it was a lie for for entertainment and and to hear that it was one of our own that made it you know he happened to be a member of Omega sci-fi so why would you put that
Out there in the world knowing what was going to come with that and then the backlash that as as a as a man of God that that I claim to be and I know that I am now people looking at me like wait a minute that’s where some of
That stuff comes from stuff like that and I was like I hate that I hate it I hate it I hate it but you know I don’t know if you guys watched but Junior pledged and I feel like they kind of did a really good good
Job of kind of showing that process I think they really hit on like the beginning the middle of the after so that was like the one time where I was like okay this is almost this is almost accurate this is almost there maybe we have maybe
Like 25 more to go but this is 75 there yeah and I just you know go ahead B sorry I just said I agree that’s our you know grown into my show so when I saw it I was watching it I was like let me see
What y’all gonna do and the only thing I’ll say is as everybody has already said so I don’t need to be long at all is that but the part that really just bothers me is that they missed the development anything that develops black people we kill anything that you know
The process is to anything is make you strong and that’s why I said a lot of it that is showing this greatly exaggerated um but it’s again it’s something that’s great uh amongst the black community so we have to find a way to tear it down and the
Best way to tear it down is the same way we do everything else is with our own people which is extremely unfortunate and before I I bring everything to a close and kick it to everybody for closing remarks um I’ll liken it to this um got a couple
Military people on on this chat and my dad being a fellow member of the military retired Air Force of uh 27 years I believe one thing that he always said about the military going to basic training was that they would tear you down only to build you back stronger
Sometimes and you know looking at my experiences with Kappa Alpha Psi it didn’t do anything but break down my mind a little bit and forced me to think outside the box and to be stronger for it for when I’m going up against stuff now in the workplace and I can say
This is nothing I’ve been in hotter situations than this or if I’m dealing with something with my family and and trying to do something with my son you know I mean like wait a minute my feet have been held to the fire much much more than this I can I can handle
This and I can move past it and I you know if people look at it like that um I looked at look at my experience with with cap Alpha Psi you know the development piece it just made me a better man today and I’ll I’ll kick it over to uh
Seductive I’m well actually let me go in deference order first I’m gonna kick it over to Dr Green um for closing remarks anything you would like to say about our great fraternity sir I mean it’s the greatest returning all the land that’s all I’m gonna say but I
Will say for anybody who’s looking at this is do your research about whatever fraternity sorority you want to get in um hold on to someone that is doing positive that’s so you need to follow anyone is not so positive you probably don’t want to follow them uh they just need to be
You know hopefully hopefully they can you know get on the right track but you want to follow somebody that’s doing something positive ever since I came into this fraternity I’ve always had somebody positive in my life a mentor that’s part of the fraternity not just say I only look at cap outside but
There’s other organization but Kappa facade is turning Incorporated they really held me down my first job right when I graduated from college was a member a guy was a member of capital style hire me after that my first teaching job was another member of capital Psi Fraternity would hired me
As I was going through my doctor’s degree I got to a point where I mean I can’t do this this hard another guy who’s been with capital assignment Incorporated helped me through that process and it’s you just gotta find the good in things and stick with that don’t
Seek out the negative stuff because it seemed like when you see God the negative stuff that’s all your mind tends to just look at but when you seek out the positive stuff you tend to just gravitate towards that and stay with that because that’s going
To help that’s going to help you get you through any process uh that’s going to help you hold you over and that’s gonna help you you know be who you want to be yeah walk through life you are you got so much knowledge right Big Brother Dr knowledge you know what
I’m saying I was about you I said that’s why we call him knowledge that was the historian over there that’s the uh that’s another show dude we gonna I’m gonna we’re gonna get you back Eileen I couldn’t say it better than him I know through being a part of Delta Sigma that
It’s already Incorporated and even the Divine mind because like he a lot of his walks have been with just like his organization but I’ve I’ve received like mad love from every organization apparently Divine not every I feel like you know Delta they’re your sisters and every other organization is like a
Family member a cousin an auntie or uncle or you know whatever but I feel like along the way just being a part of like the Divine not had just been so inspirational to me to who I am to my walks my experiences my when I need
Someone to pick me up I just feel like it’s just great to be a part of a a group like at large where we’re all kind of about the same thing and growing our community and influencing one another and networking and you know having those bonds where we
All know you know we came from Deep groups of I don’t know of such impression and such ways of like not being able to and where we take that and we turn it into something like amazing you know so I don’t know for me it’s just always been a great experience
Shout out to my lion sisters who always hold it down for me when Delta seemed like it was the hardest thing to do my line sisters alone that’s what I’m the most thankful for like my life sisters are so amazing they’re so dope and like when everything is hard the fact that
Delta just brought those women into my life alone I will always be grateful for so I just had great experiences all around and I’m grateful to the divine nine not only just Delta so yeah all right Miss Bianca any closing remarks um yes I’m gonna piggyback off of your statement
Um about the basic training military basic training so I would actually compare both experiences and say that they have made me better overall basically to you know help me think on my feet make me well equipped for anything um as far as you know knowledge and just
Being a proactive person so I feel like I’ve came out better on the side of each organization and just like Eileen said so um I gained so many sisters the connections in the places that is put me in as far as you know being that much closer to success is mind-blowing what
These organizations can really do for you so anybody that is looking to join a divine nine organization I would just say do your research um and just choose where your heart is choose where you want to go get that Mentor help them walk you through the
Process and like I said just do your research and with greatness there comes negativity and as far as us being members of the Divine line I feel like we just need to keep doing the work put the positive out there and just show them hey this is a great thing to be a
Part of and you know you’ll do great over here so all right seductive keep an indifference order any closing remarks sir yeah so one thing I want to say is also piggybacking off the uh the BMT the just the basic training uh one thing I like
To say was like with the Navy the Navy Seals everybody knows that’s like one of the hardest organizations in the world to get into people know that they actually do have forms of hazing holding people underwater to make sure that they almost can drown for a bigger purpose so
That way when they’re trying to keep people safe and so people can make videos about certain things that if they need to swim the shore somewhere and they’re in battle taking fire that they can be able to survive through that and then so just want to throw that out
There nobody’s frowning on those type of things they’re not saying that we did any of that in Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity Incorporated because it is a non-hasing organization but I’m just saying there are things out there that are built to afford You Through Fire and it shouldn’t be looked at as uh that’s
The negative part of the organization if you are seeing the bulk of the people come out on the other side um I also want to piggyback on what Eileen said is just about you know love from the D9 when I went over overseas to Korea the first person I met when I got
Off the plane not the first person but essentially when I got in town everything was it was a cue it was an Omega and then he hooked me up take care of me made sure I was good introduced me to other people made sure I met other
Bros I mean GDI is a little bit of everybody and I mean he was even enlisted I’m an officer and he was like now I got to take care of you out here let me know what you need and then you know every now and then he actually
Checks in on me and everything like that now because he’s still in the military but at the same time it was like that love was everywhere there’s a lot of times um since we’re talking black community you know you kind of get a little bit upset when you’re walking by another
Person of color and you know they don’t speak you know but if we got our letters on walking past each other people are going to show some love most of the time or at least just that acknowledgment and everything and I think that love and that Community across everybody is uh is
Worthwhile and worth the benefit and the last thing I’ll say to you to close it up for my head is uh we’ve always talked about like Injustice in the community and just all of those type of things is how do we raise ourselves to different platforms you know as a black community
Or just in general if you want to see something to change be a part of that change and then so I will say kudos to the people that are willing to take the heat to come out and say something about it but what are you going to do after
The fact have some consistency continue to move forward on your Christian walk and really be consistent and be about it don’t be a a hypocrite a hypocrite where because we do see that a lot in our Christian Community and then if you want to be a lawyer you don’t like the
Justice system you go become a lawyer so you can change it from the inside you don’t say I ain’t gonna never be a lawyer because of the fact that you know I don’t like them lawyers or crooked those politicians are crooked if you want to change it you’ll be a part of
The system that’s something we’ve preached to people since they’ve been little kids if you want to see change go be a part of it so some of the people that are even thinking about announcing your letters if there’s been some bad situations that you dealt with and you
Were part of a chapter or a part of any organization that you really didn’t just need to take yourself away from I get it but if there’s a way for you to change this organizations that are still going to be around and there’s a way that you
Can be on the inside changing it I implore you to do that but I I enjoyed chatting with all y’all today all right Mr too cool for school y’all see how you see how the ace Club do every time [Laughter] you know all right Mr Affliction man any closing remarks
All right man I’ve been as I say I’ve been apart a couple things um I’ve been preaching literally half of my life and I’ve gone through spiritual things that’s been development um as you talk about fraternity development I was in the military development and all of those areas I will liken them
All to be the same there’s you know things that that challenging but on the other side because of it and then me being better because of it I’ve been able to assist other people to make it through times uh through rough times in their life the journey that we call is life and
I don’t do anything that’s not going to make me better I don’t hang around people not saying I don’t interact with people God I believe you always have to give back but I don’t allow people to be a part of my circle if it’s not really about development everything everybody
That says is you have to do research you have to you know look at what you’re doing and I’m gonna say this especially because a lot of it is saying that a lot of people are denouncing their letters because of the Christianity like as a as a minister I’m always doing research
Like I’m always cool you know child people are always challenging me well why you believe in Jesus why is this why is that so I always have to stand strong on you know my word and know why I’m doing what I’m doing know what the you
Know know what the word says know what what I’m a part of means I’m in the military been a preacher you know Kappa Alpha Psi whatever it is you have to know what you know why you’re doing it why you’re rooted and know you like say just know you your roots and
I say everybody’s already kind of said that but I you know me just being a minister I guess sometimes I feel like I see it from a different angle and it I like I actually I respect them but also take it a little bit offensive because of the fact that
How hard Christianity is scrutinize and what we have to go through as Christians and then on top of that how hard black people are scrutinized and what we have to go through as black people and that’s another you know organization in our entity that I’m a part of that’s helped me develop being
Black just you know the color of my skin so with that all being said you know about being better for it you know real dark-skinned brother but at the end of the day man they say I you know I pray for you all that y’all get you know that
You’ll find whatever Direction in life that you want to go and that you’ll just own it and be the best you hey ship I know you’re about to like close it close it up I just want to say a couple of things this is your first time watching
Make sure y’all check out the unacceptable Behavior Network the fellas five Queens everything else that’s out there right now there’s a lot of content out there chat with everybody let us know what you want to hear because we trying to hit some real hard Topics in
Our community and just in the world that we want to get after but you know shout out to the crew let’s go check out stats too first saying thank you to to the the guests that we had on the show today I know this is a topic um not very many people
Are eager to talk about but I felt like it was something that we should talk about only because we’re on the inside you know my dad preached a sermon uh today actually are are you are you on or are you in there’s something about being on that’s Foundation to
Always step off when you’re on but when you’re inside a real direct change I hear baby oh you have to cut it off man but when when it’s on the inside it you can make it a direct change man I would implore almost like what my ship says if you’re
If you be the change that you want to see be the change that you want to see nothing nothing is fixed overnight everything is a journey at the end of the day please make sure that you do your research you learn and and learning never stops that that’s not just with
Greek organizations do research on Christianity do your research before you take a job do a research do your research before you get married before you have babies things you always got to do your research and make sure that you’re ready to take on these challenges
Man so I would just say like thank you guys for joining thank you guys for listening make sure you check out the unacceptable Behavior Network I am your guy B bond this has been another episode of In The Cut we are out thank you What do you think
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