Of the organization and I told him I said I have something I need to tell you guys and he’s like okay what’s up I said I can’t be part of this organization do you think they knew beforehand yeah I kind of felt they had a feeling that something was wrong and then probably
Thought that okay when he gets when he crosses over it would be okay or it’s just a face but I knew in my heart like I can’t I can’t go along with this you know so I we had our first meeting they passed a paddle around and then when we
Went through our beat you know this is a different one I really loved the I remember that one but um when it came to that point where they they ended the meeting they said okay we have a brother in here who wants to has a few words to
Say and I said that y’all know that you know I went through with you in his organization but to be honest with you I can’t be part of this organization and a lot of them will cause shock actually two bros from another school came down
And I heard what was gonna happen and he just wanted to see if this was really nice a place I was not scared because I knew that God was with me you know I knew that he was protecting me and and he had a boldness in me I had to get it
Off my chest and when I did it you know I think one brother he cried and he was like me I know why was your mom he was on the line right and then you know the two other brother came down man are you did you uh
Did you feel you know that you did the moment I’m sorry he said are you a better man than you were before I said well yeah understand because anything you go through will make you stronger I’m saying I said yeah did you put your hand the Bible did you swear and I said
To be honest with you I did you know and then and I in that notion I did feel bad because I’m like one of my daughter’s really you swore on what did you swim okay when they admission they may do initiation right at the end right when you are into the
Organization they tell you about certain things about the organization right the little little secrets in here there but they give you the Bible and they put you hands in the Bible right just swear that you won’t tell anybody understand it’s interesting that I see a lot of organization use the Bible right swear
To their foolish you know things that goes on in the organization but they skip the part that the Bible is supposed to be the truth the Word of God and the only thing that you should be either first of all he says let your yes be yes
In your nose we nose me to have to swear on the Bible me and everything I’m saying all to the O Sigma Gamma right pledge my allegiance right there contradicts the Bible right right what you’re doing is when you are giving is give your life to an organization I’m
Saying it’s like you’re giving your life to a god yeah I’m saying and God is a jealous God you know the God that we serve you know we said his son Jesus Christ on the cross to die for our sins that’s the God that we serve but if you’re you know
Giving your life to an organization that has you know has no substance you know godly substance right then it’s actually your giving your life to a cult or your giving your life to something that has no I can say don’t bid more standards or has no how can I say it no
Godly principles something I’m saying for you to apply to and that’s the thing that that takes place you tend to compromise something because you’re there and that’s what that pressure comes that pressure comes where okay in your mind just two things happenin to you on the inside of doing it why am i
Doing it you know I’m saying I showed that I’m feeling comfortable on the outside but I’m not comfortable side you know saying it’s the Holy Spirit and you telling you who’s a conscious and you telling you you’re doing wrong you know but I still love you anyways what you’re doing wrong so
Let me ask you because I read your book and some of the reasons that you’re lying gave some of the reasons some of the reasons that the Laughing quote I remember some of them I doing it for popularity something am i doing it because they want girls I’m saying some
Of them are doing it because someone in their family write legacy legacy has done it you know some of them are doing it because they have some a friend a friend who’s doing it you know it isn’t coming naturally from the person’s heart
It just says okay you do it I’ll go to I came to a point where I did it I did it because someone wanted me to do it I’m saying but I can say it was not just them I made a choice I’m saying for
Myself to do it because at first I was anti friend I came to school and I said no why why should I be in this organization but the thing about is that when I got into the wolf when I got to school I had a culture shock like wow
This is this is cruel you know and then I saw the pattern ease on my mom alright you know for a good couple of months but I had befriended somebody who was in the organization and we got together and we spoke right and as we got to know each
Other you know not knowing you know that he would ever ask me it was in time I’m saying when he asked me I’m but no I just understood but as I got more offender more I started asking questions the curiosity part you know on a kiosk
Part it can begin to manifest you know it was an open door of okay well if you want to know you have to pledge if you want to know you have the pledge if you want to know you have flex they would invite you to events the social
Gathering and you would just see the bond between them break it’s interesting because I would see that the bond between them when I wasn’t a memory wow they’re just so close in their so positive but yeah they really don’t know that the bickering and the fighting that goes on
Because I’m still friend with some young leaves that I pledged with right you know but our friendship is not based on Sigma Gamma Rho or we talk and you know we talk about God we talk about a lot of things and it’s interesting that even some that are still in the
Organization they still feel that you know yeah there’s a lot of something there that’s not of God there’s a lot of chance and there’s a lot of rituals they never of God but you know what that’s not my focus that my focus is on the commune service part on the networking
Part on the part that’s helping you know the children and how in the community but it’s the it’s the roots I mean I remember the young man in your book that came to speak with you from your church right now he talked about the fruits about the farmers can your on that he
Talked about the grapevine right John remember what I had in that chapter and he was talking about how the the farmer did not want it anymore right and if I can remember that he planted a another vineyard and it didn’t produce food right it didn’t produce
Anything good so what he was gonna do was well pull it out and pull it out right right because of an approved because of the Buddha it needed to be uprooted and planted right and I and I think that means that was so prolifically said because attorneys and
Sororities to me you know you could say well we do community service we hope the community we’re sisterhood Brotherhood scholastic right but the roots to the core I mean you’re talking about a lot of rituals and a lot of seven like for Sigma Gamma Rho seven school teachers
Decided hey I’m going to start an organization we’re gonna use symbols like skull and crossbone right and it’s interesting I spoke to another SG row who’s no longer part of the organization and she said to me that when she denounced she felt like a spirit of death was swallowing her and I’m like
Hello could it be because on your Sheila says skull and crossbone if you google squat in front or the symbol for it is death alright so no wonder you found a sort of death was following you because of the things that you guys also have you also have a Christmas star I’m
Saying on there too I mean you know that there’s there’s our witchcraft boards out there you have Dungeons & Dragons you have and also you have the Ouija board and the Ouija board has the pentagram star and it has the question star and I can
Say that like the moon star you know if that was on the organization – yeah and I I saw that I didn’t really look into it I’m saying they had a necklace with it – but I’ve seen that were right but I never I never went that deep into it you
Know saying actually as I was going as I was in school I was learning a lot about myself I had got hit me but my spiritual my spiritual I could say I wasn’t Rudi as much in the word I believe that going through this process has made me
See that again gee this is not you I’m saying this is not part of you you don’t need to be part of an organization and first you don’t even part of my organization and in your heart I’m saying and if God’s in your heart and he lives
In you this is something that you mean you need to attach yourself to you know so I looked at debt and I told myself okay then I have to say something no I have to season because there’s a lot of people right now an organization who
Can’t open up and say I don’t want to be in this organization even knowing their spirit and their spirit and they feel that I don’t want to be here I don’t um I’m sitting tired of it you know but I don’t want no one I don’t want to Punk
Out I don’t want I can’t I’m so deep into it you know I don’t want to that people know what’s going on on the inside I’m saying even when I did what I did allow the sororities because there’s a Phi Beta m5 missing you know and to this
Day I have nothing against the organization
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