Welcome back to the neighbor’s acted podcast America’s most beloved podcast the most downloaded Red Sox podcast in the world it is uh the final episode of the 2023 season uh but as you know if you’re a Red Sox fan doesn’t really matter uh we’re gonna hit on at the back end we’ll
Talk about uh we’ll put a bow on the season uh we’ll talk about the season ending press conference that was held today with Sam Kennedy and Alex Cora will have some baseball thoughts at the back end uh but uh the front end as you know will be
About Tim Wakefield uh who passed away yesterday I mean like my days are so screwed up that like everything’s a blur right now like it is uh I’m I’m still in shock um it doesn’t feel real you know talking to other people that had you know a connection to Tim
They’re all saying the same thing like it just doesn’t it doesn’t feel real um so yeah let’s get into it I mean the I mean it all started for all of us when [ __ ] chilling put it out there against uh the Wake Fields wishes I went to bed Thursday night late
And I was scrolling through Facebook and someone had posted on their timeline like citing Shillings podcast this is at like 1am and had said you know Shilling just said on his podcast that Tim Wakefield has brain cancer and his wife Stacy has pancreatic cancer and I like I
Read it didn’t believe it and then I I went to bed I was like I don’t because it I I went and searched Twitter search Tim wakefield’s name nothing came up no one had said anything I was like this is just a random Facebook post
In like I think a lot of people were in that so I didn’t see it that night after we finished recording I woke up the next morning I see the video going around like someone had clipped it or whatever it was and at that moment I saw it not a
Lot of people were obviously up and you know seeing it yet or talking about it and it became immediately kind of like sticky because uh you know I’d put a tweet out just saying you know thinking of the Wake Fields hope everything’s okay but you know clearly just the way
It was delivered Kurt how he described it it was not supposed to be out there uh and no one knew I think the severity or really the entire scope of the situation and I think anyone who knows when you’re going through this kind of family thing if you don’t want it out
There the worst thing you can do to people in that spot is put it out there because it just puts an immediate Spotlight on them you have all this [ __ ] you’re dealing with and now people are bombarding you with questions or wondering and I think everyone wasn’t
Sure how to you know talk about it or even go in radio that day we were talking before the show like should we address this and a majority of people said no just leave it alone and then the statement from the Red Sox came yeah so um
Again I saw it Thursday and I didn’t believe it didn’t see a single tweet there wasn’t there wasn’t a single tweet so I was like okay wake up the next morning someone had taken a clip from shilling’s podcast and I listened to it and I was like what
The [ __ ] dude like what why why like he outright just says uh you know I I don’t know if they want it out there but here it is anyway like [ __ ] you dude come on like what the [ __ ] is that um so I was angry I was very angry
Um you know getting tweets from people being oh why don’t you address it like the whole thing for me was Tim wanted privacy you know I I think I was a little upset at first um at how many people were making it more about shilling than about the diagnosis for Tim
Wakefield like that and his wife yeah that was pissing me off a lot where there was this angry mob that all they were tweeting about was chilling being an [ __ ] and it’s like we can all agree on that like but this is about Tim now now that it’s out there
Whether it was whether it was supposed to be out there or not it was out there um so immediately you know I get really concerned for Tim I I had talked to him the week before and now that there’s more information out there where he either had the
Surgery on the 15th or the diagnosis was on the fit he had the surgery on the 15 Tyler yeah Cora said it uh talking post game that Wakefield was in there the 14th which I think was the day everything was going on with the Red Sox front office and Wakefield was saying
Like I have the procedure tomorrow don’t [ __ ] worry about me I got this we’re good we’re just gonna take care of business and go from there yeah so he had the procedure on the 15th I texted him on the 19th unknowingly because a picture came up on my Facebook
Memories of me and Tim together uh at the movie premiere of uh knuckleball the movie it was in uh whatever it was September 19 2012. um and I want to say that if it wasn’t the first time I met Tim it was probably the second time that I
Had ever like interacted like because he I mean as as you’ve all heard and seen he’s been at every fundraiser charity event Under the Sun in the city of Boston so I’m sure we’d cross paths at events like that um but that picture popped up and I don’t think we had texted
Probably since I was in the booth with him earlier in the season just because like when I was in the booth with him uh I believe it was at the end of April um I just made sure to text him after and be like hey thank you you know like
I did that with Eck like if I went up there and shared the booth with someone like that I always made sure to be like hey thank you like you know that means a lot that you guys like let me in there and have some of your time and stuff like that so
I had texted Tim the picture of us from 2012 and he just responded and he was like man like you know it feels like just yesterday and I was like yeah I was like that’s before we started getting Grays and he laughed and I thought nothing of it I
Mean this man is dealing with a brain cancer diagnosis and had already gotten the surgery dealing with what his wife is still currently going through he’s got two kids um and is going through this on his own terms he’s going through this privately and I think you know not to spend too
Much time on the Shilling thing and be a hypocrite because I that’s what made me the angriest was uh how people were focusing too much on the Shilling Thing versus like the let’s rally behind Tim now that it’s out there thing uh I’m pretty sure in the audio of Schilling’s podcast
Tim wasn’t even the one that told him it like Tim told Doug Mirabelli who told Shilling so it’s like what gives you the right dude to put that out he didn’t even tell you himself like it’s just super [ __ ] up um I don’t wanna I don’t want to like
Spend any more time on that but I think you know hopefully I got my point across about how I feel about it um but the the Catherine veritech tweet just burying Shilling that’s that was like my first gut punch really because like that was like oh [ __ ] it’s real you know like
It’s almost like when you when you see something like that uh do you hope that it’s made up you hope that he so because I mean uh I’m pretty sure like uh big cat and PFT pranked Kurt Schilling one time like it’s a sick [ __ ] joke
If it were a prank but that’s what you’re hoping for like I think it was like 2017. I forget what what the prank was it’s unrelated I’m just saying like Kurt Schilling is prankable um because it was nowhere else I was like dude I’m just [ __ ] hoping that
Someone with a sick [ __ ] up mind pranked Kurt and then he put it out there because it wasn’t anywhere else when Catherine tweeted about it I was like [ __ ] because I I didn’t know um so then it just becomes about Tim and when we all found out that it was real
Uh I know that uh like Tim’s one of those guys that if you know him and you’ve had any type of experience with them he’ll make you feel like like Hey we’re we’re best Pals and I said that if you go back and listen because I know Tyler you said you
Listened to the uh the last time he was on section 10. uh uh I said like that’s how I opened the interview I was like all right we got Red Sox Hall of Famer you know one of the nicest [ __ ] guys in the world one of my best Pals Tim Wakefield and like
If you just spend any amount of time with the guy he’ll make you feel like that’s true uh and when like I debated whether or not I wanted to reach out to him I’m glad that I did uh uh you know because like like looking back on that interview
I I was like I’m glad that I I gave him his flowers you know like I feel like you know so often you uh you feel a certain way about someone and you don’t let them know until they’re gone but like Tim was just the type of
Guy that I opened that interview letting him know how I feel about him nicest [ __ ] guy in the world like stuff like that so I’m glad that I got to say it to his face starting that interview so he knew how I felt and like I said
Tim is the type of guy that’ll make you feel like your best friends um and I know if Tim were to power rank uh on the list of all the people that he’s impacted in his life all the people that he would consider friends or acquaintances I know
I’m not in the top 1000 you know I like we had we had a very fun relationship he he said he listened to the podcast like he had been on the podcast a couple of times um you know like he was like I said in the interview like he when when one of
My aunts had passed away during covet in 2020 he texted me to offer his condolences to my family and and I let him know uh you know how much that meant to me that like he he cared enough to reach out about something like that um so
That’s why I debated whether or not to text him because I know how many people care about Tim Wakefield uh so I didn’t I didn’t want to jump in there knowing like hey man like sit this one out like you’re not uh you’re not on the priority list here so
But I couldn’t help it you know like I couldn’t help it so I did I did reach out uh I did send him a text message he did acknowledge it um which I’m very thankful for and I’m and I’m glad that I did I’m glad that I did
Let him know like how I felt again about him uh so yeah I mean like that’s just why it just it was a total gut punch that I I still haven’t really fully reacted to uh that maybe like that is just me I mean I’m sure other people are that way
But uh you know sometimes like something like that it takes me a little bit to react to it and I I haven’t really even had the time to process that this is real um because as I was telling you guys uh like you know my my grandmother passed
Whatever it was three weeks ago and uh one of my very close friends um he lost someone very close to him so I found out about Tim as I was getting ready to go to awake already so I’ve just been I’ve just been getting hammered with loss recently not to make
It about me um Chris snow passing away the last couple days as well someone yeah obviously had you know a lot of people who cared and thought of him in this community in his battle against ALS yeah yeah um so yeah I mean I I want
I definitely want to use this episode to tell funny stories you know memories about Tim Wakefield I don’t want it all to be sad um but yeah I just wanted to put a little bit of a personal touch on it um because I feel like if you are a Red Sox
Fan that are you know between the I mean that it’s he’s been here for so [ __ ] long that there’s such a wide age range of Red Sox fans that probably have stories of meeting him of having any type of experience with him um there’s probably so many and and I’ve
Enjoyed reading the ones that I did get to see on Twitter uh and you know I’ve been spending a lot of time you know reaching out to make sure other people are okay you know like the former teammates of his um people over at Nessun like someone
Like Kevin Youkilis and Tom Karen that had to go on the air after finding out that you know for TC covered his baseball career and then worked alongside with him at Nessun for over a decade Kevin eucalus someone that uh was a teammate of his and then got to work
In the booth with him afterwards like these are like lifelong relationships and Lou Maloney as well like he was on radio that day with Will who uh uh I I told him I was like I I was like I can’t listen to this yet he’s
Like I will sent a a a voice note that I still haven’t listened to yet um like obviously there’s no Clark’s catch up on this episode but uh if it’s gonna be the last one of the Season then we we’ve gotta we’ve gotta have uh will Fleming send us out in that regard
Because uh he he’s been a big time MVP for for the podcast this year breakout season for will but um yeah just like I I don’t I don’t know how how they did it I don’t know how they did it you know like just uh thinking back to um
Like my sister did my grandmother’s eulogy and as she was reading it the entire time I was sitting there being like I don’t know this like I couldn’t I couldn’t do it I couldn’t get through it and I I did my grandfather’s um and I like be rabbit up there just
Went up there [ __ ] froze couldn’t get through the first sentence and my sister had to come up and stand next to me so I could get through it these people all loved Tim Wakefield knew him personally like long long long relationships with him um and they had a job to do and they
Went out there and did it and like you know Kevin Youkilis putting it into words perfectly lumerelone putting it into words Jason veritek after the game all these guys like people don’t know like Tech and uh like I saw someone reply because I tweeted the tech video someone was like
Tech wasn’t even his catcher it’s like [ __ ] first of all [ __ ] you second all those years together second of all yeah like teammates forever and their neighbors their neighbors like they they were very very very very very very close the Wake fields and the veritex very very very close um
So we’ll play I’m sure I’m sure if you’re listening to this episode I’m uh you’ve probably heard it but it’s worth playing again um the uh the ukulest stuff the veritech stuff you know Cora’s tweet he he uh he talked about it again during the press conference today um
But uh yeah man it’s [ __ ] hard it’s it hurts a lot and uh I I feel very guilty when you know like I posted pictures and videos of me with wake and you know people saying sorry for your loss to me no no no like it’s everyone everyone lost Tim
Wakefield it like Red Sox Nation lost Tim Wakefield uh which is why I think veritech’s words were so perfect because and this is what I said to Maz on the air tonight I was like you know when when people pass away sometimes a lot of cliches will get
Thrown out there oh they were the best at this they were the best at that and yada yada they they weren’t but it’s okay to say nice things about them on the way out with Tim Wakefield he was the gold standard example of what it
Means to be a Boston Red Sox he was and he is and he he will be he will continue to be um you know you go back to Johnny pesky a lifelong Ambassador for the Boston Red Sox yes but with Tim Wakefield the dude was here for two decades basically as a player
Um you watched him pitch when you were a kid I watched him pitch when I was a kid you have George Kirby a young kid out there giving a tribute with the knuckleball yeah that touching those Generations that tells you everything you need to know about his impact and
That’s just the knuckleball that’s not any of the off the field stuff you know which is just as big if not bigger than the on the field stuff yeah and I mean just going from 2003 with like the Aaron Boone home run I remember because me and my dad had tickets to
Game one of the World Series and I remember being so upset so heartbroken that the Red Sox lost so upset heartbroken that I wasn’t gonna get to go to the World Series with my dad and after that had subsided then I started being like you got you [ __ ] better not say a word
About Tim Wakefield because I know how the Boston media is that like whatever it is now times a billion back then times a [ __ ] billion and I just remember thinking don’t you [ __ ] dare put this on Tim Wakefield because of that one swing in the bat where Aaron Boone closed his
Eyes and pulled the home run out of his ass uh and you know I this is before social media and all that so you hear the stories about Tim being in the clubhouse and just sitting his in front of his locker crying and he had
The same thought like I don’t want to be this generation’s Bill Buckner and not a single [ __ ] guy in the clubhouse uh was gonna let him think that uh the fans weren’t gonna let him think that you know I I know that 2004 it’s it’s weird
To say is before your guys time uh there was no lingering effect to that in 2004. like there was no like like oh on opening day let’s boot him waiting nope nope nope nope the fans were one thousand percent behind Tim in 2004. um and I know it’s it’s kind of the thing
That people always say when 2003 comes up but he would have been the American League uh the ALCS MVP he would have been the ALCS MVP if the Red Sox closed out that series it’s like That’s Mike mussino twice right yeah that is what people should be taking away is
If it weren’t for the eighth inning meltdown Tim Wakefield is your ALCS MVP where the Red Sox go to the World Series against the Florida Marlins at the time um and then the very next year his performance in game three the 19-8 game where he just eats the
Bullet for the Boston Red Sox so they can reset the bullpen and that was the first in a line of events there was a series of events that obviously led to the greatest comeback in sports history but you know people point to Dave Roberts stealing the base the Kevin Millar walk
The uh Bill Miller ties it the Ortiz walk-off home run everyone kind of like looks at the comeback starting in game four it really started in game three when Tim Wakefield went out there and pitched so that the guys that uh the key folks of the world the the Allen embries the mike
Timlin’s so that he could just go out there and and do that’s what he was he was the he was the definition of what a great teammate should be um and then obviously he uh we we brought that I should have clipped off this [ __ ] because he was talking about
It on the section 10 interview um about his game five where he he mentioned something about he went to dinner with veritech recently at that point this I think the interview was in 21 end of 21 season had just ended I think um and he’s like yeah we were at dinner
And like the whole like him pumping his fist coming off the mound they thought that that was the last inning he still had to go out and pitch another inning after that so like they you know the everyone talks if you get someone from the 2004 Red Sox on a podcast talking
About it like their memories and thoughts are still jumbled from that because it was such chaos um but not to I mean I you know I’m um word vomiting um but Jared I think you offer a perspective like coming from someone like me you know I watched him as a fan
Right just over the years I never got the chance unfortunately to meet him personally but to hear someone’s perspective and you know so often you say like don’t meet your Heroes you know it’s not worth it you’re gonna meet these people they’re gonna disappoint you I think in sports especially right a
Game that’s filled with Egos and all this different stuff Tim Wakefield was the opposite of that in every way and to hear people like you and people who were teammates with him people who met him one time while they were you know in the hospital battling cancer or whatever it
Was to hear all of them kind of speak that story it really adds to what we you know people who didn’t meet him what we envisioned Tim Wakefield as it Paints the perfect picture and it really makes you understand how special he was from you know just the stuff he did off the
Field right like Sean McAdam talking about in 1995 you you know uh the bbwa dinner uh there was a huge storm he was down in Florida uh wanted to make the dinner obviously 95 especially finished what third and Cy Young voting that year crazy storm takes a plane only gets to
Hartford Blizzard’s coming down on everyone he takes a taxi in the blizzard makes the dinner shows up does the whole thing wanting to be there just you know you invited I’m coming oh for the only one to show up to the dinner while everyone’s like going through all these
Crazy things all these stories everyone’s on top of the world Tim Wakefield is showing up just to be there and be present and represent like that just seemed like the guy who never forgot what the people around him meant what the writers had to do everyone had
A job and he suited up every day to do the damn job and that’s why I thought Cora’s tribute to him with everyone wearing their Jersey such a subtle little touch but to get everyone to understand to do that before the game and I don’t know on such a hard
Day I think it was the perfect way to kind of honor him it didn’t stick out it wasn’t the loudest thing but damn everyone was together and in one and that’s what Tim Wakefield did to the Red Sox for freaking 16 years yeah yeah I mean it’s uh
That was it was weird to not have Tim Wakefield on the right you just thought I mean the man was the oldest player in baseball when he retired you just always thought like oh you throw us a knuckleball like of course he can continue to pitch and I asked him in in
The interview um you know had they offered you a major league contract would you have come back he’s like yeah like it was he didn’t want to pitch for someone else like it wasn’t about him he he cared about the Red Sox uh Maz mentioned on the air
Tonight about how uh the Minnesota Twins were interested in trading for him and he was like no I I want to stay here um just going year like he basically went year to year for like the last [ __ ] decade of his career you’re just like all right yeah the Ted the the the
Tim Wakefield deals like is one for whatever one for a million he just he just kept going on these one-year deals and knowing that you know it’s either gonna be retirement or the Red Sox like there was no like oh man like Tim wakefield’s a free agent at the end of
The year you know like is he gonna sign with someone else like no it’s either the Red Sox or retirement and it’s how he felt at the end of the year every year it how uh if he felt like he could keep going if he wanted to keep going
Um but like his family his family basically was here because his his wife Stacy local Brockton Brockton she’s a Brockton girl yeah so yeah that was that was that was Tim Wakefield he bought in like he became a Bostonian after he retired he lived here he’s he’s still he’s like a South Shore
Guy now it’s like you know I think when uh and I was talking to I was talking to a former player um the other day or not the other day I think it was yesterday I do have been yesterday uh like a little part of me was like a little sad that
Like when you look around the roster right now like there’s not a lot of like long-term guys you know it’s like a lot of guys are relatively new to the organization or the major league roster so it’s like you know you’re not gonna get that Tim Wakefield experience where they have
What vertek was talking about the pride of the front of the Jersey like I play for the Boston Red Sox like like the Dustin Pedroia mentality like Dustin Pedroia definitely graduated from the school with Tim Wakefield where I think it was important to be here it was important to carry on the tradition
Of what Boston Red Sox baseball was all about did you see the story tomasi put out involving Pedroia and Wakefield back when Pedroia was a rookie no so I guess Pedroia and it’s very quick but Pedroia had to carry around like the beer cart onto the plane or whatever it was for
All the older players and Tim Wakefield was like he was hard on rookies he wanted to teach them what you had to do to be you know a big Leaguer so he’s busting Dustin Pedroia’s balls every [ __ ] day and Pedroia is just taking it and taking it and taking it uh in one
Of those days you know Pedroia finally says I’ve had enough how about you let me [ __ ] hit off of you because he just was talking to [ __ ] right back to wake and you know wake would be the first person to tell you you know some
Days it was moving and some days it was rough uh and you were just trying to get by it Pedroia and him just shooting [ __ ] and from that moment on Tim Wakefield always said he was like I loved him he like he became my guy because Dustin
Pedroia was just he was giving it back it wasn’t that rookie mindset anymore more he grew up in front of him I I bet you that in in time I’ll ask because it’s still fresh for a lot of people obviously um like I didn’t want to bother P like I saw
You know some people are um doing interviews about it uh I I don’t want to I don’t wanna like bother anyone but in time I would love to kind of you know get some people on to talk about their story like malar I’m sure has some great stories Pedroia has
Probably got some great stories um but yeah I mean that like that’s you know I was uh it had probably been two hours maybe three hours after I found out and uh I had searched my tweets for you know old Tim Wakefield stuff and that’s when I came across the video
Of uh when he left the podcast and and called oh my God however he’s like he’s like was I supposed to do that yeah it’s just like it’s a great Tim Wakefield moment because you know like I’m sure that there are plenty of people that if we had interviewed them and they
Could hear us talk and be like oh what a power move to just walk off it they would have just like chuckled and kept going pretended not to hear you’re just like I don’t want this to be awkward instead he pops his head in it’s like oh
Was that like that’s the what you talked about he treated everyone like he was your boy your best friend that’s what it felt like yeah yeah I got it right here it’s [ __ ] hilarious so much for thinking that I appreciate it take it easy later shh what a power move just walking away
You guys supposed to stay on everyone else always like logs out or closes the computer you just walk it off this is an incredible power movement computer so it’s the I know that was great oh my God this is [ __ ] great um huh I know we uh we have to we have to
Hit a read I know that there’s no appropriate time in a in a Tim Wakefield tribute show to hit a read but um we’re gonna get through it we’re gonna get through this episode um things are heating up in the ballpark especially at Fenway every team is playing to finish the
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Personal Tim Wakefield stories I was hell-bent on seeing his 200th victory and I don’t know how many [ __ ] tries it took do you know does nine sound right I believe that’s what I read however many of those were at Fenway Park I was at all of them
Right hand of God anytime that Tim Wakefield was on the mount I was so pot committed I was like I’ve gotta [ __ ] be there for Tim wakefield’s 200th Victory and however many times that he pitched at Fenway Park going for his 200th win I was there uh because the
Memory like that’s it people like oh you still have Facebook like yeah because I I love looking at the the memories being like you know on this day 11 years ago this is what you were doing and all of my [ __ ] memories are Red Sox related
All of them so like you know the memory pops up on this day however many years ago you were at Fenway Park for Tim wakefield’s 200 200th Victory and I can’t remember the order if the 200th Victory came up I think it did I think the 200th Victory
Because I took a picture of like the scoreboard and then posted it so I can’t remember like because I was I was going to send him that too being like hey like how is that you’re you’re 200th Victory and then I didn’t so it must have been when like the picture of
Me and him popped up where I was like I gotta reach out to Tim um but yeah man I I was you know I was there at the Doug Mirabelli game May 1st 2006 when Doug Mirabelli had the police escort like people forget do you remember like what was so important
About that game uh not specifically I know the story of Mirabelli coming to catch and having to get there but no what was the uh context of the game that was Johnny Damon’s first game back at Fenway with the Yankees oh okay all right yeah so like
That’s why that was a big deal and uh so like you know I have season tickets in section 10. foreign we do a draft every year for like it was like you know we get 10 games like one of my dad’s friends like work people like everyone would either get 10 games
Or they would split it and you’d be like five games five games and then we would have a draft at the beginning of each year and more often than not the first pick is opening day and we [ __ ] never got the first pick never ever 2006 we get the first pick
My dad’s like all right opening day because I had my first opening day I believe was 2010. I hadn’t been to opening day in my entire childhood didn’t go to opening day until 2010 that was the first opening day I ever went to so we get the first pick in 2006 and my
Dad was like [ __ ] yeah opening day let’s go and I was like nope no I was like what do you mean is it we have to we have to because if it wasn’t opening day it was interchangeable first pick was always opening day or the first Yankee game
So uh because I remember in 2004 we took we didn’t we didn’t take opening day we took the first Yankee game because it was a Rod’s first game at Fenway with the Yankees so we I don’t think it went first for whatever [ __ ] reason someone took opening daily an idiot
Um so we went to the first Yankee game which I believe off top my head maybe April 16th um but in 2006 I was like we’re not taking opening day we’re [ __ ] taken May 1st that’s the first Yankee game and that’s Johnny Damon’s first game back at Fenway
After signing with the Yankees uh and it just so happened that it fell on a Tim Wakefield start and Doug Mirabelli was with the Padres I want to say yeah Josh Bard was the character for Wakefield horrendous right horrible I remember couldn’t catch it couldn’t catch it and
They they were like we saw we saw what you did in October of 2004 Jason veratec We’re Not Gonna even ask you to catch Tim Wakefield so we’re going to trade for Doug maribeli and get him a police escort to Fenway Park he’s putting on
His jersey in the car as he gets to Fenway and uh I think he got there like right at first pitch and I remember when Johnny Damon was out in center field uh the [ __ ] idiot Red Sox fans in center field had a sign that said traitor t-a-r
T r a d e r and uh they’re dead serious like it wasn’t like a joke um and then they were dumping like fake money on them in center field which after hearing the story from him multiple times like it’s kind of [ __ ] up it’s kind of
[ __ ] up I get it it’s the Yankees and it was it was right especially that era 2004 like you were on the 2004 Red Sox like that [ __ ] was personal like it’s almost like Red Sox fans expected Johnny Damon to just retire and play for the
Yankees even though he had like I don’t know at that point when did he retire 2011 2012. that’s all right yeah right around there what the last year six years seven years left I think we lost Johnny Damon yeah when him and Manny had a joint press conference signing with
The Tampa Bay Rays at the time 2012 last year with Cleveland 21 yeah uh what was his Detroit year 2010 yup 2010 because yeah and that was that was another thing was the Red Sox I think claimed him off waivers but he said no for a guy like that too like obviously
You go back and you kind of relive the history or whatever it may be but to know how badly he wanted things to work here I think history it sucks that it takes this long but has come to at least understand it and forgive it because
Until I listen to your podcast way back on the day I remember during covid listening to it I had no [ __ ] idea which one uh with Damon oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah where he like legit opened up for the first time like really
Opened up about how much it hurt him how all of it happened and I thought his video Swinging or singing Sweet Caroline with Wakefield was one of the best videos I saw on the internet the last couple days of Wakefield and him just singing their [ __ ] hearts out at some
Event like that shows the Brotherhood there mm-hmm yeah and I mentioned that to Tim in the section 10 interview where Red Sox fans they want to believe that uh every championship team is still like it’s like a fraternity and you’re all still buddies and you all
Still talk to each other and he he basically more or less confirmed it you know he’s like I still talk to a bunch of people he mentioned Johnny Damon he mentioned Kevin Millar he obviously mentioned Doug Mirabelli um and yeah that was uh that was quite the
That was quite the game at Fenway Doug Mirabelli getting that but you do that for guys like Tim Wakefield you know if you’ve got some slap dick knuckle baller it’s like all right buddy I guess we’re just gonna skip you for today because who gives a [ __ ] for Tim Wakefield you
Get your personal catcher back and you get a police escort to get him there in time for first pitch and he did it was one of the most fascinating experiences at Fenway because of the the Damon Factor the mirror belly factor I wish oh my God if
Social media were around for that like this was like the infancy stages of Myspace so like you had like you had to have like a college email back then um then obviously the video that was making the rounds was the uh the Mike Timlin oh 2007 baby yeah that is my heart right
There yeah uh the 2007 World Series where uh Tim Wakefield voluntarily was just like listen if you guys are gonna do this and you need the roster spot I’m happy to sit this one out um not something that a lot of guys in the big leagues with Tim’s resume are willing to do
Uh uh but again that’s the type of guy that’s in Wakefield was it was not uh man if I you know if you keep me in this rotation or put me in the bullpen what are my you know free agency numbers gonna look like like I’m not I’m costing
Myself dollars by taking myself off the roster this is a World Series Contender I want to contribute like [ __ ] you no Tim was just like you need the roster spot happy to happy to step aside so that the Red Sox can win a World Series not Tim
Wakefield the Red Sox that’s what he cared about uh I Cora told the story uh I think yesterday on Nessun or whatever it was of him and I guess it was Cora and it was Wakefield and they’re watching the final out of or of 07 uh
Seeing it all play out you know in The Dugout lass out recorded strikeout Cora jumps the fence Wakefield couldn’t get over the fence so he fell over so he’s late getting to the pile after everyone and you know everyone’s going freaking nuts of course but Cora was just talking
About he was like it was so funny like Wayfield was there for everyone all this and I’m Dustin I’m going straight there like you know core athletic doing his thing old man Wakefield and he just looks behind him in Wakefield hasn’t caught up yet yeah but I don’t know I
Think that Timlin video and you know Mike Timlin as it is as respected of a player he was to make a point and it looks like Wakefield in that moment hearing Timberland just give you your flowers yeah in front of everyone in front of a camera while everyone’s celebrating
Could be here it is yeah go for it right now go ahead Sam I just want to say one thing this guy right here this win is for this band right here because he was not on the roster and showed so much Heart by saying I I can’t
Be on the roster and it’s good for the team this is what kind a person is standing right here I love this guy I’m proud of this guy it’s the hardest thing to do to take yourself out of the game for someone else and you get it and I’m proud of it
I remember and Wakefield looks on the verge of tears he loves him talk and like dude it hits so [ __ ] hard yeah um speaking of uh hitting hard I did want to get to that uh eucalyst sounds here’s that Kevin Youkilis you you we’re teammates with wake and that’s a bond
You will have forever yeah um sorry oh he was just the he was a great competitor when he took that mound he was just a great teammate and uh just a great friend and had the luxury to play with them on the field in the booth and uh
Just just glad that I had the opportunity over the years to be alongside them and just an amazing husband a father and a community leader he really enjoyed people he really enjoyed being around people and today we lost one of the good ones very very special guy he was just 57 years old
He condolences of course to pouring in we thank all of you and God bless the Wakefield family yeah you crushed that um obviously very difficult for him to be able to pull that off um and then uh the veritech sound from after the game it’s it’s horrible and it’s horrible for
His wife free Trevor Stanley his friends I mean I think oh man but the kind of teammate in front he was I don’t know Patrick say anything I think I’m showing it um I’ve I’ve always said it wake he exemplifies what this uniform is and it’s not just to name them on the
Back it’s the name on the front it’s what he’s done in the community the way he’s representative respected the game which goes on to the whole League of being a Precious part of what we do as is respect for the game and for your place he’s
Exemplifies what it means to be a Red Sox and what it means to be a professional a wonderful dad great husband we’ve been through a lot I mean he’s 100 right and um I mean all the things that veritech said about Tim Wakefield you can turn right
Around and say about Jason vertek as well um I think both of those guys are the example of what it means to be a Boston Red Sox player um because it does go beyond just like how the numbers look at the end of the season and it goes beyond just being
Here for a championship or two in their case uh the way that they carry themselves they were and still were after long after their playing careers ambassadors for the Boston Red Sox Tim Wakefield went from retiring to Nessun to still doing charity work in the area to still living here
Veritech same thing it’s just that instead of the media path he chose to remain in the Dugout where he belongs like he’s a machine and he’s in there uh doing what he did as a player uh to get these players prepared to win baseball games but also representing the Boston
Red Sox and when we look back on 2004 and as this franchise altering season it’s because of guys like that it’s because of guys like Tim Wakefield guys like Jason veritek um who like Jason said cared about the name on the front of the jersey and like you know like I mentioned Johnny
Pesky earlier he was a walking Red Sox mascot for decades and uh he eventually got his his moment in the sun when they retired his jersey that has to happen for Tim Wakefield and it just bothers me that it didn’t happen yet I’m not like this isn’t like a you know
This isn’t a shot at ownership or the Red Sox whatever but it it doesn’t make sense to me that they would have waited because with someone like Roger Clemens they weighed like no one has worn 21 since Clemens because they were waiting for him to get
Into the Hall of Fame and then they wanted the number retirement to be the icing on the cake with Tim Wakefield he’s not getting into Cooperstown he’s already a Red Sox Hall of Famer he’s already given his life to the Boston Red Sox you’re not gonna wait until he’s 90
Something like Johnny pesky retire the man’s number well he can see it and appreciate it like what were we waiting for no one has worn it since he retired after the 2011 season and I think Chris Sale wore 49 with the White Sox and when he came to Boston he
Was like [ __ ] that he’s like I’m not wearing Tim weight like if a guy like that that you know at the time when he showed up was on a Hall of Fame trajectory if a guy like that says I ain’t wearing Tim wakefield’s number are you kidding me no one’s wearing that
Thing again no one’s wearing it they were never gonna issue it again and it I mean again this isn’t supposed to be like an anti-red Sox thing like why didn’t you do it uh it’s more to say it like I’m upset and it bothers me to to
Know that he won’t get to see that because I know how much it would have meant to Tim and his family to see 49 go up there and it’s gonna go up there uh it just you know like what were we waiting for and I think you you kind of look back to
Some of the moments where Tim got honored the Roberto Clemente Award right wined all the kids from the Jimmy fund just start pouring out behind him uh you know as everything’s going on and he absolutely lost it he called it the biggest honor of his entire career to
Have another moment like that where you hope a guy can get his flowers and have those moments it’s tough because that’s the stuff you regret you wish you could have had more chances to tell someone how much they meant to you how special they were to you
Um but you know I think that’s unfortunately one of those things you can’t do anything about it obviously once it happens it’s just a tragic part of life but I hope and at least from the way they were talking about it Sam Kennedy today the way Jerry Remy was
Honored uh a year ago I hope we see a very similar way to see Tim Wakefield honored whether it’s a patch it has to be something I don’t know what they’re going to kind of come up with or go about here but I hope Tim Wakefield gets
That same kind of love and appreciation because 2024 should be about Tim Wakefield it should be about going and winning something for him hopefully uh you know a year where you’re trying to get back into World Series conversation and all that it should be all about doing it for him and paying those
Respects forward because his legacy will carry on for a long long time there’s never going to be another Tim Wakefield whether you want to talk about the person a knuckleballer and say what Matt Waldron is the closest thing and he’s not a real knuckleballer for being 100
Honest like these guys they are such or Tim wakefield’s such a historical part of the game long term in you just can’t erase that or forget that the Hall of Fame may not have wanted to put him in but Legacy wise he is a Hall of Famer it
Doesn’t matter how you want to [ __ ] put it because when you mentioned Tim Wakefield there’s not a baseball fan that doesn’t know about him in his story and going from a first baseman in the minor leagues to a guy who has all these wins 200 in the big leagues and third
All time for the Red Sox behind Roger Clemens and Cy Young like imagine that kind of [ __ ] Legacy and we’re here talking about the guy off the field yeah and and to add on to the guy off the field I know I keep referencing this interview
Go back and listen it’s on YouTube too if you want to watch it um I think it’s episode 448 I could be wrong uh I asked him because you know when you talk about his records I think he has the second most strikeouts in Red Sox history
Maybe the most starts or Innings or appearances most start second most strikeouts and then third most wins behind Clemens and Cy Young um so I’m thinking of that right and this man has been around the game for many many years and he’s accomplished a lot of things and my question to Tim was
Um you can’t pick the World Series but what’s the thing outside of the two rings that you’re most proud of didn’t even have to [ __ ] think of it in a second Roberto Clemente award like everyone knows what the Roberto Clemente award is it’s for you you get rewarded and recognized for
Your efforts off the field what are you doing to impact your own Community what are you doing to use your platform as a big Leaguer to help others in need and I mean I don’t to my knowledge I don’t think that there are like two time Roberto Clemente they kind of like
Spread that one out he got nominated eight times in total okay um but like the the fact is he was Roberto Clemente award worthy every year of his career and then every year after he retired uh that’s the type of guy that Tim Wakefield was I’m glad that he
Finally got his recognition he didn’t even consider I made the All-Star team and in his last year it’s like man I’ve been in the big leagues for two decades and it took me until the last one to make the All-Star team this man didn’t even consider naming that accomplishment as his
Favorite or the accomplishment that he was most proud of outside of winning two World Series titles with the Red Sox didn’t even blink Roberto Clemente award that’s what he was most proud of um you can’t fake that like you can’t even like if you were to ask some other guys
Maybe it’s like if they take a second to pause they’re thinking do I give the real answer or do I give the answer that you I should say because it sounds better like of course like a guy’s me oh yeah I mean like obviously the Cy Young Award
That or my all my All-Star appearances oh the fact that I have the second most strikeouts in Boston have you heard of the Boston Red Sox they’ve been around for over 100 years a lot of good pitchers in their day I have a second most strikeouts of all time third most
Wins behind I don’t know if you’ve heard of uh Roger Clemens he’s won seven Cy Young awards no one’s done that before and then the other guy Cy Young uh he won over 500 games and they named the best pitcher in the league award after that guy yeah it’s those two guys and
Then me and I did it with one pitch and I did it with one pitch and everyone knew it was coming like 60 miles per hour come and [ __ ] get it and you would never know talking to this man like if you were just like from bum [ __ ] Utah you’ve never watched
Baseball before and you met Tim Wakefield at a restaurant would you know that this individual matches this resume no it’s like my history teacher you would never know like it’s not to say that he isn’t like competitive I mean he’s competitive as a [ __ ] but cocky no
Like just wasn’t a thing wasn’t a thing and uh I I feel like a lot of people if given his ability if given his success in the big leagues they’re not even remotely close to being as humble as that man was not even close
Um and like one of the things I look at with him like for someone to get what was passed along to him as a guy who had the knuckleball and he had his ups and downs it’s the reason why he went from a hero in Pittsburgh in 92 to
Eventually release in here you know they had Phil necro on you know paying him to train Wakefield and on the backfield he’s telling Tim like listen if you take everything I teach you you will pitch until you’re 45 years old in the big leagues I’m telling you you just gotta
Buy in and have everything and what does he do he pitches through age 44 and he gets there and then to have that success and do all the off the field stuff and still say Steven Wright when you came here in 2012 what right was flipped for Lars Anderson if I remember correctly
I’m going to sit here and work with you I’m going to try to give you everything I can you know I was going through the videos today and watching him 2016 the year right made the All-Star team wakefield’s sitting there watching watching his entire bullpen pointing this pointing that this is how
That works you know this is how I went about it kind of just getting the ball to come out the way you want and they threw different knuckleballs it wasn’t identical clearly but Wakefield would go there talk him up say his stuff’s even better than mine never was yada yada
Yada like that’s a guy who cared about the art of the game in a skill that so few people have now he was doing everything in his power to pass it on and to give someone basically the save it was to Wakefield a guy who thought
You know his big league career was going to be over you know I was never going to make it past double A he wrote that whole career out and was still trying to give it to other people here here’s my knowledge take it as far as you can I
Hope you can have a career that’s like mine or better than mine just do whatever you can to make the Boston Red Sox better Jake How uh do you have any favorite Tim Wakefield stories or anything that you wanted to say yeah I mean I just grown up as a kid and
Watching the Red Sox with my dad and I remember him picking me up from school and being like you know we’re going to the Red Sox today that that’d be a thing that he would do and I’d be like it was just the best feeling in the world it’s like nothing else matters
Till I’m at the Ballpark and I swear to God like 95 of the time we went to the game it was Wakefield pitching so it’s just like this is the first one that really just like it’s home I think because of how influential he was
Like Me growing up as a Red Sox fan um yeah it’s just a really tough one yeah because it’s like you know I feel like even if you’ve never met him you have that connection to him like you feel like you have like you feel like you know him
Um he was like that family member that was just always there like Dependable consistent like I know I know Uncle wakefield’s gonna be there every year and I don’t have to worry and he’s gonna make me smile he’s gonna pull [ __ ] out of his ass to get by
And he would do anything for me yeah well it’s uh again it’s been a it’s been a rough 24 hours I know uh people probably wanted a podcast last night and we made the decision to wait um for the Red Sox press conference which was at three o’clock today and then I
Had to go to Sports Hub so that’s it’s about 10 30. uh on Monday while we’re doing this and I’m glad that we waited too because it allowed time to see read and hear more Tim Wakefield stories um and it’s uh you know I think like you all kind of
Like everyone just goes through their different stages of grief when when something like this happens but you know getting to that point where you can reminisce and enjoy the stories and like laugh at them and be happy and uh appreciate Tim for who he was again it still feels weird
For me to talk about them in the past tense because he wasn’t someone that I saw in person all that often so for it’s not gonna like I don’t know how long it’s gonna take to feel real you know like he was in the nessen booth after
The deadline like we were just watching him talk to us and you know give us his thoughts on the trade deadline and then zooming in during the Jimmy fun stuff and all that like Tim was still right in front of us you know until the last couple weeks or so yeah yep so
Um yeah I don’t I don’t know whether to keep going or to or to move on to the press conference stuff but I don’t want to move on like that’s the thing like I don’t want I don’t want to move on like I’d love to I
Would love to just sit here all night and talk about Tim wakefield’s stories um but you know what I I feel like we will give it some time to for for others to process and um you know get to that point of you know I feel good about like I want to
Look back and like tell these stories and um you know that’s part of like the healing process for a lot of people um but I would love to I would love to have guys like milar and Pedroia and Lou and TC like all these guys I want I want
To have them on to to tell their favorite Tim Wakefield stories maybe you know maybe instead of just like you know doing it one by one maybe we kind of just like put together something I don’t know like that that would be cool I think that would be incredible just to
Hear everyone like you know what’s your best Wakefield story and kind of just jump into it like I Dan duquette was talking today and just like post career Tim Wakefield he’s like the thing I looked most forward to when I went to Fenway Park when he was with the Orioles
And even after he was like Tim would be there post career just hanging out and I’d walk in Wake would be sitting there ready to chat me up we’d be right you know wait we’re waiting right by the manager’s office and we’d have these conversations about life and what was
Going on with our family and yada yada and Tim was like he’d start telling me all the stuff going on with the socks I’m telling him what’s going on on my end like I don’t know man it feels like everyone has a Tim Wakefield story or at least a couple
Yeah and I think for the fan base that’s the stuff that allows you to grieve it makes someone like me who did not know him feel like I knew him in that way like I knew the guy you know behind the player it would be easier to talk about other
Stuff as well I feel like if you know we had the pressure today I think me and you agreed on kind of how it was yeah nothing Burger there’s a nothing Burger but before we get there Jake if you could uh tell the good Folks at home
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Um I hope nothing but the best for his wife um you know condolences to everyone and there is a long list of people uh who knew him who loved him who shared any experience with him we’re all hurting it’s not just about like you know close friends and family it’s it’s
Every Red Sox fan feels like they lost someone yesterday uh so hang in there we’ll get through this together and uh hopefully we see 49 retired as it deserves to be so now we can move into the press conference today that was essentially a nothing Burger it was uh I didn’t expect
Much to come out of it I didn’t think that um any groundbreaking news was going to come from it uh we didn’t we didn’t really get any nuggets outside of um Cora did talk about his his uh existence in the organization Beyond next year he doesn’t have a deal for 20 he doesn’t
Have a deal after 2024. but he mentioned how um you know I’m not ready yet to be a general manager my future is in The Dugout next year and in the years after that so he mentioned years after that uh whether that’s just you know I’m hoping
For but he did see himself in the Red Sox dug out Beyond next year even though he doesn’t have a contract uh Chris catillo asked about shohei Otani and to which Sam Kennedy was like I can’t [ __ ] talk about that dude and uh what else did anything stand out to you in
Terms of like nuggets um I think on the quora end it felt like when he was talking about 2024 he did mention Beyond 2024 as well that he saw himself as a manager so I think from that light and you know the topic of extension came up again and him and
Kennedy said it they didn’t say you know anything was in the works but those will be talks I think everything points to it’s what we were kind of hinting on last podcast obviously core is going to be here a long time there’s likely going to be an extension once they find
Whoever the next hire is uh and that way it doesn’t look super you know it doesn’t look like the decision was already made beforehand that they’re involving who’s supposed to be running the front office moving forward David Stern’s quotes today I thought were a pretty interesting uh opposite a parallel really what’s going
On with the Red Sox where they let buckshawalter go and he goes I think it’s very important to be entering this job and taking over front office for whoever is going to be the next manager that we’re starting together at the same spot and we’re going from there the Red
Sox are clearly going in the other direction um and we’ll kind of see how it plays out I thought the highlight of the press conference was when you know Sam Kennedy for the most part very controlled when he’s speaking doesn’t reveal a lot very high in blue mask in that way where it’s
A lot of word salad and you kind of got to pick through it he did not take very kindly to questioning whether this was a job people were going to want uh and he kind of got it going I think I did post it on my uh Twitter page if we want to
Play the audio real quick um but basically his big thing was like yeah this is [ __ ] Boston like people are gonna wanna come here and you know he didn’t say [ __ ] but yeah did he is that yeah yeah he’s like this is [ __ ] Boston dude David Ortiz style you you
Think this is a [ __ ] City okay you think people aren’t going to want to play for this [ __ ] organization you can go [ __ ] yourself right now and like they help and they’re like listen the last four guys who’ve led the front office ready sense of the desirability can be
Industry about this head Facebook operations but when you look at wherever is coming in will not be able to hire their own manager there’s a lot of lieutenants in place and given what the ownership group has done for the last two three people here they haven’t lasted four full seasons
Are you sensing any wariness from desirability yeah look at at um at the end of the day I understand that that’s a it’s a fair question um just the Boston Red Sox if you want to run a baseball organization this is where you want to be you want to be in
Boston why because it matters here more than anywhere else so if you’re not up for that challenge thanks for no thanks yeah thanks and no thanks you [ __ ] [ __ ] but like that was a very that felt like the energy the day Bloom was fired I didn’t think we
Got a ton of that kind of you know this is we’re changing things this is where we’re going that felt like a moment where Sam Kennedy snapped a little bit and I think you know it’s a bad reflection on him partially that they’ve gone through Executives like this and I
Think even he knows probably in this process there’s people who’ve turned him down Mike Hayes and Chris antonetti that likely you know said no and he’s wondering oh well is this why is this why Chris antonetti said no to me years ago as well like it’s one of those
Things and it’s a big reason why when it comes to this conversation with the job yeah there’s going to be certain candidates that are out based on what’s gone on here the last you know under the John Henry ownership group is probably the best way to put it yeah I mean it’s
A it’s a four-year lifespan if you’re the general manager and that’s why it’s a fair question to ask do you think that this is a desirable job it’s not because you know Boston stocks the roster success no it’s because you could win a World Series and get fired the next [ __ ] year like
That’s before it’s over that you set yeah like it’s it’s uh it’s a fair question do you think it’s a design I mean your answer is also Fair yes this is the Red Sox like you have a a reputation a legacy of winning World Series titles this generation uh
Under the same owner that is still here now you have Alex Cora as your manager one of the best managers in baseball who has also won the most recent world series title here uh the the ability to spend the young core the top farm system like all that [ __ ]
Sam I think whoever asked the question had every right to ask the question and Sam had every right to be like yeah no [ __ ] it’s a desirable place to be I don’t think that anyone overreacted I don’t think that it was handled perfectly um what was the other thing that that
Stood out uh oh that they’re they’re they’re basically taking their time they’re just gonna like yeah no we’re in no rush to hire a new general manager well I feel like you know you should be in somewhat of a rush you should have somebody in place
By the start of the off season because you’re already going to be behind the eight ball with Yamamoto and whoever else which which kind of makes me think that it’s going to be Eddie Romero it kind of makes me think that it’s going to be an internal candidate because if
If you’re just lottie-da taking your [ __ ] time like Eddie’s already in there Raquel’s already in there you can already you know start having these conversations with Yamamoto when the season ends or whatever Romero’s basically doing GM duties he’s doing the transactions for the team like and that’s more than capable of doing the
Job I think it’s I don’t know I don’t know I I haven’t really heard much on what qualities they’re looking for in their candidate but I don’t know if there’s a candidate out there that has something that Eddie doesn’t you know I I think if you if you
Really want to protect your farm system um you want someone that knows it well that does have some attachment to some of these prospects you don’t just want Dave Dombrowski coming in here being like I didn’t draft this guy I didn’t sign this guy on International free
Agency see you the [ __ ] later Craig Kimbrel you’re our next closer like you know sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t Anderson Espinoza for Drew pomeranz didn’t work for anybody uh with Eddie though and this is what I said to Maz tonight all the criticisms that haimbloom got too passive not aggressive enough
Had no conviction I know that Eddie isn’t really a forward-facing figure but he ain’t like that Eddie Eddie will pull the trigger Eddie will uh be aggressive I think he will work with a [ __ ] you where the Red Sox attitude and that has been severely lacking for the last
Five years whatever you want to call it on the time span I do think that’s an interesting question and it’s cool to hear you say that because you know I think when you talk about Eddie and someone taking over that role for the first time you don’t know how they’re
Going to react when they get in there right like that that is a question so to hear that I think that points in the right direction I think the most important thing it’s the relationship and Cora talked about it again today the importance of being able to kind of
Communicate on all levels of the organization and have the same vision I think with Eddie Romero and Alex core based on their relationship you’re getting a proven a proven relationship that you know should be able to hold strong and work well together high and Bloom and Alex core did not work well
Together there’s a major reason why Hines Bloom’s not here arguably the biggest reason because they seem to struggle on seeing things eye to eye you have court taking shots in the media Bloom sometimes firing back uh you know kind of and we’ve gone through all the quotes throughout the year and
Everything but if you were to bring someone else into this mix you’re taking that same risk you did when you brought him Lumen whether it’s Sam fold Brandon Gomes even if it’s a kimang or someone like that that is such a significant risk you have to take and hope it all
Sinks in that’s why I mentioned that David Stern’s thing earlier making sure this relationship works it’s the key to this organization moving in the right direction or we’re going to have the same mixed messaging we’ve had for years if everyone can’t agree on the same Concepts and not in terms of disagreeing
On a certain decision but everyone needs to be on the same page not willing to throw someone under the bus I don’t want to see [ __ ] from June Lee over the off season with leaks coming out about what they think of hind bloom in the front
Office you can’t have any of that you need to clean this up you need to make sure you’re all moving in the same direction and I think with Eddie Romero not only does that check that box you’re also going in and saying we can make him
A GM we don’t need to make him CBO or president of baseball operations the GM title would be a promotion if core wants to move into that role in a couple years we can have that conversation we can go from there we can talk this thing out
Core is telling you I’m going to be in [ __ ] boss Austin in December when the big moves of the off season happen I’m going to be at Fenway where you know you talked about it last or you know last off season when everything went down with Bogarts the meeting at Fenway that
Day right all that stuff where they had to make that decision core is going to be there in [ __ ] person probably as in charge of those conversations as anybody at least holding the same kind of level of you know impact is whoever’s going to be hired to do this job well
That’s what it is you know him and Eddie Romero can connect on that you have no clue who any of these other guys whether they have that ability or you’re just re-running the balloon plan it just to me all signs Point towards internal hire because
How else like you know how else do you explain Alex Cora is guaranteed his job next year and he’s talking about the years beyond that oh and by the way the coaching staff as well will be decided before you arrive here the whole staff right like the staff has decided upon
Like they’re not like they’re not looking for someone to be Alex Cora’s boss they’re looking for someone to be Alex core is like underling you know like that’s what it is yeah like you you are coming in one of the you know if you were to look at the job description it’s
Like must work well with Alex Cora must you know you must have a working relationship that lends itself to a healthy uh communication and dialogue two-way street to to be able to work together to to build a championship team and if I ask you to hire someone Your
Own Boss are you gonna hire your boy or are you what are you going to lean towards right like I know me and my boy we work [ __ ] great together I know he’s going to understand when I say what needs to go down he’s going to pull the trigger
This guy I’ve never worked with you know maybe I hear good things Sam fold do you work with Dave nebrowski and I love Sam fold I’d be happy if he got the job that’s a question mark you know what you get with Eddie yeah at least from Cora’s
Perspective I think when you put him in the number one seat who knows but even if Eddie is in that number one seat isn’t it really just Eddie and Cora it’s not just Eddie that’s the truth of the situation if it plays out that way I think even if
They hire a first time guy overall that’s what Kevin James meme there yeah so we’ll see I think um that makes the most sense to me you’re not gonna be like oh man like this is an awkward situation you hired a general manager and then basically told them to extend Alex Cora
You don’t think Eddie wants to do that anyway so there’ll be no confusion there’ll be no awkwardness there’ll be no why did you it would be Heim 2.0 right you hired Heim and then told them to trade mookie bets you know your first order of business is
What we want you to do not what you think is best but if it’s Eddie it’s like all right boom Alex Cora 20-year contracts it’s that and I think where you question things could someone like Sam fold if Dave Dombrowski is reaching out and saying hey this is my stamp of approval
We did something amazing when we were in Boston I’m giving you my number one Lieutenant could that change your decision could that impact you maybe maybe that’s the difference and why they’re willing to wait and take their time and that’s where you start to question well Phillies are probably
Going to go on a nice playoff run here may take time before you can get that interview Kim Eng who knows they might get kicked out in the next couple days but they made the playoffs That clouds her whole future as well look at going to Miami and making the playoffs and
What that means to that franchise who knows what she’s looking at even though her contract’s expiring um but the Red Sox said they’re gonna hopefully start interviews late this week early next week there’s going to be rounds of them we know that so you know
How many times you got to meet and do the whole thing I don’t know but we haven’t got any names any new names in quite some time Sam was giving away nothing he and why would he and that was his point he said I don’t know why other teams give you the heads
Up on what they’re about to do oh we’re gonna go over the luxury tax take our money yeah like you can’t I agree with how to say I know that like you know Red Sox fans are down on Sam Kennedy but uh I agree with how he
Handled it he wasn’t gonna be like you know what Red Sox fans we are going for shoheheotani so that if they don’t sign him it’s like oh man the Red Sox look like [ __ ] idiots they said that they were all in on show hey then even get a
Meeting with the [ __ ] guy they’d just be stupid to comment on that and as far as uh I I can’t remember who asked the question and I’m paraphrasing what the question was but it was something to the effect of do you see this off season being make
Or break or an all-in type off season and all Sam said was I I just I don’t wanna put a label on what we’re gonna do but what I said to Tony was whether it’s directly from the team or from reports or rumors we’ve always kind
Of gotten the gist of an off season before it happened like up until the Heim era I would say if we thought it was going to be a monster offseason it usually was and if we thought it was going to be a dinky offseason it usually was uh I think this
Past off season might have been the only one where we just weren’t really sure like are they gonna pay Xander Bogarts I don’t know we’ll find out well JD and evaldi they’re they’re free agents are they gonna you know bring one of those guys back well if they don’t well now
They have all this money to spend they’re gonna go big right well well they got Yoshida but that’s you know that’s kind of just like a stocking stuffer I want the big present under the tree and then it just never came so I think like you know there have been off
Seasons more recently where we weren’t sure uh what are we gonna get but more often than not at least since Theo Epstein if there were reports that they were gonna go big they did and if there were reports yeah this isn’t going to be a big spending off season we
Weren’t surprised with the opposite with this one the early Buzz the early rumors are that they don’t want to tip their hand they want to be like everyone remain calm nobody panic and then they just they blow the lid off the [ __ ] thing that’s what I feel
Like at least the intention is I can’t sit here and guarantee you that they’re gonna spend a [ __ ] ton of money I do think that if all things go well because it takes two to tango you need Yamamoto to wanna come here I think shohei Otani is a pipe dream I don’t
Even know that he fits on this roster but if they want to make him fit okay then now you you it it it takes two so I I think that their interest is at least are they going to be the interest Kings were there linked to a bunch of
People and maybe they sign some guys maybe they don’t maybe they trade for some guys maybe they don’t are they gonna be I think that you’re gonna see their name pop up a lot in terms of being linked to trade candidates to free agent candidates all across the board I
Think that they’re going to be linked to a lot of different guys yeah Sam Kennedy said there’ll be no rocks unturned we we are considering everything no idea is a bad idea it’s a little scary um but like that’s the kind of way you think I do think one of the things I
Liked that Kennedy said today was still the importance of building up the farm and doing that at the same time I hope that philosophy doesn’t change just because you know corn Bloom’s relationship wasn’t great and maybe there were some indecisive questions with bloom in making those that should
Still be a priority you can do both and do it the right way especially with the foundation that’s been put in place but at the end of the day the guy in Alex Cora who was telling you farm system rankings don’t matter that it’s about winning championships in this city all
This different stuff he’s still here the guy who said the opposite is not here anymore that tells you what this offseason is going to be look at the jobs opening up Cora could have had another job he could have been you know looking at the Mets
Instead he chose to stay here he wants to be here he sees his future here he’s going to sign an extension here in the coming months we all see the writing on the wall that tells you where this thing is going because they probably had to sell Alex core on this whole situation
To keep him here and to keep that interest or you know that hunger to you know test this thing out with the new guy coming in and all that so I don’t know I think it’s pretty clear they’re going to spend Kenley jansen’s comments as well Kenly once a day right now is
[ __ ] get in the microphone whoever’s willing to listen he’s like dude this is a championship City I’m here to compete for World Series there’s no freaking excuse for anything else like I think that’s another example the veterans on this team they’re pushing their voice as hard as they can about what they want
This off season to be and even though kenley’s been here just one year I think there is some similarities to Justin Turner where he’s very important in that Clubhouse and I think he’s speaking for a lot of those guys on that team and Cora himself
Or can we I mean he just turned 36 the other day happy Birthday Kelly Jansen um yeah yeah he just turned 36 so he knows I don’t have much time left you know I think it’s me everything barked on him at one point this year knee back [ __ ] anything
Dude pitching his there’s miles on that body you could say the same about you whoa what I I didn’t mean it the way that you took it uh how did I take it I don’t know how’d you take it there’s a lot of miles on my body do you
Mean I work very hard yeah huh it’s not because like you know or anything you know takes me down and gravity’s kind of crushing my spine that doesn’t even make sense I’m just Jake does that make sense to you nope okay interesting I take things the wrong way sometimes weigh in on the
Subreddit what is a subreddit say I don’t know maybe they took it the same way I took it I didn’t say anything I just said you work hard and um I don’t the smile on your face I it just doesn’t feel genuine Tyler let me ask
You a question yeah when you said that Kenley Jansen had a lot of miles on him what did you mean by that he’s been throwing a lot of pitches in baseball for a long time working hard right but I haven’t been throwing pitches for a long time you’ve been throwing metaphorical
Pitches is it like bullet had a lot of miles on him partially because he got hit by a car but also a lot of miles on the car after he got hit by it okay but so you’re telling me that it’s just for me working hard mm-hmm
You have a lot of miles on you as well yeah I work hard this is my third show today how do you do it um I wish I had an ad read to throw in right here Tyler’s pet execution services.com if you have a problem you
Need to take care of you have a sick pet something is going wrong in your house and you need to kill a pet your friend’s making you mad I had someone on Twitter saying they won’t vote for me in a Red Sox Poll for you know the personalities
Because I kill dogs rumors like that this is a professional [ __ ] business so I I won I wiped my ass with that con that contest last year I didn’t even I didn’t even have to retweet it to get a single vote and just Cakewalk to the championship why are you showing off
[ __ ] you let me finish my [ __ ] thought Tyler I’ve been no let me finish my thought this year I think I will if it comes down to it I’m gonna lose to Debra’s enjoyer I think so and I should I should I mean like he
It’s a it’s a guy right yes he’s a goat I think I know like I think uh I think I think uh it’s the you know The Rock versus John Cena where the rock puts over John Cena because it’s the Next Generation I think I have to put Deborah’s enjoyer over
Listen he’s the young stud of Red Sox Twitter right now that dude it’s National troll it’s not like the rock where it’s like all right I’m putting over John Cena because I’m done in WWE and I’m just gonna go back to Hollywood and do my thing but I think I think
It’ll be a nice feather endeavor’s enjoyer’s cap uh to get that rub for sure I mean I had my moment in the sun they had the tournament last year and I won it and I think this time around it’s it’s time it’s time to Crown a new
Champion did you see my first round matchup no who is it catio it is is it really it’s a tough one that’s a battle what seed are you uh I think I’m 20th technically that’s embarrassing dude how the [ __ ] are you 20th there’s a lot of people with a lot of followers
Get out of here what am I the number one seed obviously oh yeah I’m number one once you because I got [ __ ] 450k followers I’ve been doing this for freaking 15 years just saying hey the Young Bucks I’m building up speak on it you know what you know what maybe maybe I’ll uh
I ca if I really wanted to I could make you win this thing let’s bully Katia this is a great opportunity to do this and crush it I could I could advocate for you to win I could incentivize people to vote for you and I could have
You win like you could put that in your Twitter buy it would be better for the show 2020 is is it gonna end this year are they doing it this year yeah Ed’s already I’ve got it all together 2023 uh whatever it is most pop what is it
What’s the title like most popular Red Sox Twitter but I think it’s my favorite Red Sox Twitter personality favorite Red Sox Twitter personality then it could be like oh [ __ ] name redacted back went back to back you know yeah here we go I’m in division two so
My final match-up will be against Maz if I make it out of this tier oh man Pete Abe’s in my tier uh you better absolutely throttle him last year I think I made it final four and stats knocked me out which painful I mean I just just say the word just say you
Need my help and I will I will campaign for you you’re gonna make me bag you didn’t ask me for help Jay dog I gotta ask I I didn’t know if you wanted to win with honor or if you wanted to be handled to you like I gotta do it with
Honor I I want to go about it the right way then you’re gonna lose don’t what is that what kind of confidence boost it’s like oh you have a chance you’re a good kid you’re like no you [ __ ] suck let’s be real if you don’t have my help do you think
You’ll win the whole thing I’m not going to beat you I I know that’s an impossible match so no I can’t beat you but I’d feel wrong your papa I I will I’ll I’ll help you to the best of my ability I’ll help you to the best
Of my ability I want you to win I don’t want people to just vote now to vote to be like oh Tyler like this poor kid he’s going through a hard time in life Jared just called him fat on his own party I didn’t call you fat I didn’t
Say that this is what other people are saying not me no one no one has ever said that Jake have people said that yeah no comment yeah he hasn’t seen it exciting on me a little bit seen it he hasn’t seen it so you know if it was out there Jake would
Have seen it he’s he’s very online he he reads the internet I guess yeah so I’m rooting for you yeah are you you think I’m not I don’t know shut the [ __ ] up um nice merch do you want one I would love one I’ll get you one will you really yeah how you
Gonna do that I don’t know [ __ ] steal one from someone I’m a medium what’s so funny I just saw something funny on my phone oh that’s convenient did you see uh the list of the best moments from the podcast yeah I was just about to ask you that can you read those
Please I gotta pull them up here hold on we also got to do wills uh I have it pulled up right here I just remembered because I was gonna yell at you and say that you guys didn’t remind me but I remembered and then you said it right
After I pulled it up okay top podcast moments of 2023 bullet Tyler’s first kiss is he pulling all the clips and then we’re gonna play them on the show or what I think he’s gonna make like a montage and post it oh okay all right I think yeah okay uh we we have
Bullet the introduction of him Tyler’s first kiss Tyler Holy Water Church prom Tyler creates God bless I don’t even remember that one yeah you thought you invented the phrase God bless Mass maso pants to the nips the Kayla board Fiasco oh God Jared’s singing Titanic Jake’s Blue Moon read where he [ __ ]
Killed me yeah what do you say here’s 99 in the blackie [ __ ] yeah something like that [ __ ] you Jake keep the mic off uh dolphin people yeah Uncle cubby slash Cemetery story love you Uncle cubby I hope there’s fruit snacks really hit yeah um the birth of the haikus yeah Jake strong
And then the yeah Jake almost died this year yeah it was scary this has been quite the quite the battle for for us this this season uh and then the debut of the MVP song and we have people just submitting their their other ideas okay people love the Thong Song uh that whole
Little Fiasco with me and Jake um when I confused yeah bicarious also the uh the business ideas oh yeah Tyler I mean like these are all like Tyler moments for being honest Jesus I’m a sick [ __ ] uh someone asked for Tyler’s Lottery sound oh yeah can you do it No I haven’t done it in a while this is not even a thing if you played it oh uh the Brandon fat he’s the game one starter for the D-backs I thought he sucked he told me [ __ ] [ __ ] you he does suck oh starting game one spare me spare me uh
Spanish happy birthday when I turned four oh yeah he said me again this is very funny in the moment to to have that uh ready to go this is this is dark some of this stuff man this is dark this is what our 2023 season was yeah no fun Red Sox moments
Yeah just my life drama and everything that’s wrong with me is that it that’s it for now people are still submitting all right you ready let’s hear it the Red Sox Lottery not sponsored tonight but the Red Sox Lottery is number 92. and number 92 is Tim Wakefield
Tonight’s Red Sox Lottery is Tim Wakefield so we’ll pull up that baseball reference page it looks like 17 Seasons with the Boston Red Sox 19 Big League Seasons 200 wins on the nose for his entire Big League career uh 200 wins 180 losses with the Red Sox
It was 186 wins which was uh third in Red Sox history Tim was an All-Star in 2009 it wasn’t his final season it was 2009 I could have sworn it was 2011. it was 2009 the Tim Wakefield was an All-Star for the American League uh people forget in 1995 Tim Wakefield
Finished third for the Cy Young Award 195 and a third innings a 295 era 119 strikeouts and the man just eight Innings how many how many years did he have of at least 200 Innings one two three four five five seasons of 200 plus Innings one two three four
Five six seven eight nine seasons of at least 180 innings he made 627 starts that’s crazy he uh he made at least 30 starts one two three four five six seven times but then people forget no one uh no one talks about the Tim Wakefield closer era 1999 Tim Wakefield had 15
Saves for the Boston Red Sox also made uh 17 starts and appeared in 28 games out of Bullpen cata four strikeout inning right when he was uh closer yeah I I’m looking at Wakefield 1995 and I was reading about this and it kind of just it tells you where baseball is
Today but when Wakefield debuted with the Red Sox May 27th he threw seven Innings one run ball right when do you think his next outing was the next day May 30th and he threw seven to third shutout innings so we’re talking what three days and this guy is coming out throwing seven
Innings back to back in a May baseball game can nothing like that would ever happen today and like it just reminded me like in 2009 uh I still remember this now I was a no-hitter freak when I was a kid like even today when I still watch a
Game that’s the first thing I’m thinking of when the game starts like dude imagine if they throw a no-hitter tonight we’re all gonna remember this forever I don’t know it’s a weird Quirk I remember April 2009 Wakefield and it reminded me of the Kurt Schilling no-hitter now Shilling was one out away
Back in 07 but Wakefield and Stewart yep Shanna Stewart shook off Tech should never do that Wakefield was five outs away from the no-hitter uh and I just remember Nick green made a crazy grab Jacoby Ellsbury made a crazy grab and the day before the Red Sox bullpen had
Thrown 11 Innings and Wakefield told Terry Francona I understand the circumstances and I just want you to know whatever happens don’t take me out let me keep going this guy was ready to do what whatever it took out there he didn’t care if he was gonna give him 50
Runs now he dominated that day but this guy hand up whatever happens I’m Gonna Save everyone I don’t care what the [ __ ] happens in this game yeah that’s Tim Wakefield baller um yeah I still I would have loved for the Red Sox to win that World Series in
2008 too going back to back um he said he thought they’d win too if Lowell and Becca didn’t get hurt right he did say that Tim pitched in the division series in 95 for the Red Sox he pitched in the division series in 98 for the Red Sox
The Division Series in 99 the ALCS did not pitch in that series um 2003 Division Series ALCS 2004 didn’t pitch in the division series um but did Pitch and that ALCS did Pitch he was the game one starter how can we forget that tidbit Tim Wakefield was the game one starter
For the Boston Red Sox in the 2004 World Series got the win right uh yeah he I mean it was him versus Woody Williams I remember that um pitched in the division series against the White Sox the following year uh didn’t pitch obviously in the playoffs in 2000 seven but this says
Actually no yeah he didn’t he pitched in the the ALCS did not pitch in the World Series and then he pitched in the 2008 ALCS a lot of work a lot of work nine years 11 postseason series um what’s that 72 postseason Innings with the Boston Red Sox it’s a baller
Was it uh was Paul Byrd on that 2007 uh Indians Team yeah I think he was yeah I know he ended up with the Red Sox what was that 2009 maybe yeah that’s 2008 that’s what made me think of him I just remember for some reason I thought Paul bird was so
[ __ ] nasty as a kid and when the Red Sox got him I was like dude watch what’s gonna happen I don’t know I I only I don’t even think I owned his baseball card I just saw him pictures of the Red Sox a couple times he wind up and you’re
Like yeah back then I thought anything that looked weird was a good thing I used to take Tim Wakefield and MLB uh 08 the show and I would try to throw a no-hitter with him because I was like oh what an accomplishment it would be to throw a no-hitter with a knuckleballer
And I I couldn’t do it I wasn’t good enough someone called into the show tonight and mentioned mvp05 and how nasty Tim Wakefield was in mvp05 and I remember that it was you couldn’t hit the [ __ ] thing it legit was a true knuckleball no yeah um but yeah let me see
The Red Sox all time statistics Red Sox all time player stats yeah all-time leaders um 186 wins is third in Red Sox history 590 games appeared in is second to Bob Stanley did I just see [ __ ] Matt Barnes as the third what that can’t be true no way
That can’t be true what is it games for Red Sox pitchers there’s no [ __ ] way Tim Wakefield 590 Matt Barnes 429 Papillon 396. Roger Clemens 383 I mean that’s gotta be real because this is all like include like Papa bonds there Derek Lowe’s there Cy Young’s there
Matt Barnes is third all-time in [ __ ] Red Sox games appeared in kind of terrifyingly scary that’s crazy I wow not a glitch no one mentioned that no one mentioned that when when he was gone oh red Matt Barnes third all-time in Red Sox games appeared in for pitchers yeah in history 10 years
Though he did 10 years here or nine that’s nuts uh all of them is a reliever which helps like some of these other guys they started they were leaving like Bob Stanley I’m pretty sure was uh reliever the entire time Wakefield came out Bullpen and started
Papelbond was just out of Bullpen yeah I mean it just it helps to be a reliever the entire time and to be here for that long uh game started Tim Wakefield all time number one 430 starts for the Boston Red Sox uh Innings pitched Tim Wakefield the
Only player in Boston Red Sox history to Eclipse 3000 Innings with the team um 3006 Innings next closest was Roger Clemens at 2776 innings and then of course strikeouts Roger Clemens 2590. Tim Wakefield 2046. not bad for a guy with a 6K per nine yeah
The uh the only two pitchers in Red Sox history to Eclipse 2000 strikeouts with the team Clemens and Wakefield who are golf Buddies outside of John Smoltz wasn’t like Tim Wakefield considered one of the best baseball golfers ever is very very good but that was the Red Sox Winery Tim Wakefield
You know him you love him um all right do we have any other things that we want to say I’m gonna play us out with uh Wills message that he sent into the show Jake’s takes uh no just shut up Matt Barnes find out he’s maybe one of the best Red Sox
Players of all time yeah huge that was huge all right uh you didn’t ask me what do you have any final thoughts Tyler oh Tyler’s takes sure I have a thought shout out Blaze Jordan for uh the message he put out on social media yesterday talking about his battle with
Uh depression and anxiety um I know that stuff’s not easy and to speak out on something like that it gives strength to people who may not feel comfortable or wonder what it’d be like to say those things out loud so credit to him I hope his battle is going
Okay I know he says it’s still a thing he fights every day but that was very cool and it’s nice to see minor Leaguers kind of revealing what they go through just because we know the journey and how hard it must be to have that kind of
Scope on you especially a guy like Blaze Jordan who’s been in the eye of the public since he was what 14 years old 13 years old yeah Shadow plays Jordan um was Blaise Jordan the last section 10 episode ever yeah or no no wasn’t it uh Alex benellis
No I think he was Willie’s Jordan that’s crazy yeah for now hey Christopher Troy Blaze Jordan Marcel Meyer episode we’re gonna do that I’m going to start we’re gonna start diving into the the minor Leaguers um so yeah uh what was the other thing I
Wanted to say before we get out of here uh oh um yeah we’re gonna we’re gonna have like that Montage of all the the Highlight moments from the season um maybe like the next episode that we do we’re probably gonna take like a look back full picture of like the whole
Season break it down and that’s when we’re gonna start bringing in other guys like I wanna uh I wanna have Lou on I want to have will on like people that were uh MVP voters that didn’t have the opportunity to really dive in and be on the podcast but they because they’re too
Busy broadcasting every single game uh those the individuals that I want to start uh getting into the mix um for these these off-season episodes so again thank you everyone for listening and watching if you watch us on YouTube We Appreciate You I know it was a dog [ __ ] season um
I didn’t put out like a tweet saying uh like thank you yet because I mean for me it’s not over like I it’s not over yet I still I’m on a plane to Atlanta on Friday so I can’t be like hey guys thanks for everything like my season’s
Not over yet but if you’re a Red Sox fan that listens to this podcast in down years we appreciate you more than you know means a lot to us that we have this community of Red Sox fans that uh come to us for content and for the
Laughs and for a night like tonight we can cry together and uh there will be more of that came from this off season as the Red Sox look to turn the page on two very shitty seasons and get back to being a World Series Contender so we will have
Uh emergency podcasts if crazy [ __ ] happens and it’s not close to a record day but what was the I keep forgetting what’s the new schedule Jake I think we talked about Wednesday nights okay all right so moving forward we’ll record on Wednesdays for um the off season so
Again thank you for listening thank you for watching and again I don’t know what this will Fleming note says so I’m not gonna I’m just gonna play it and uh we’ll see you on the next episode foreign hard to believe the season has come to a close at Camden Yards and obviously
Today an extra emotional day no ketchup no laughs no music today we lost one of the greats in Tim Wakefield and you know Lou and I came on the air today with Joe and uh literally tears streaming down everybody’s cheeks because Tim was Irreplaceable and one of
The all-time greats we will ever know not only is a player but as a person and it got me thinking about what a special thing it is that all of us get to be a part of Red Sox Nation because in so many ways the Red Sox can bring you to
Tears whether it’s tears of joy winning a championship Tears Of Heartache um that you feel on days like today tears of laughter and I think that that is where I just wanted to send a message to you guys to thank you for all that you do because uh this is my first year
Kind of really being involved with the podcast and the way that I was and it was so much fun for me not only to get to know you guys but to to be able to contribute in some small way and to be able to hear from so many of your fans
Not only online but in ballparks on the road I had so many people come up to me and tell me how much they enjoyed our laughs on the putt so I just wanted to thank you guys for for all that you do to to bring joy uh into people’s lives
That are Red Sox fans and for anyone who listens to all of the episodes in a year like this uh you’re our kind of people so here’s to better days ahead and to More Tears of Joy and to much more ketchup and laughter and uh to the great wonderful memory of
Tim Wakefield we’ll talk to you in 2024. buenas noches Amigos
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