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It today you’re invited in every hour 800 9201 1580 800 9201 1580 today hour three well you know kind of we’re kind of on a literacy literature writers creative Vibe tonight today this morning okay I’m tired I’m tired too uh Dr Brenda green will be joining us in hour
Three the black literature Club but you don’t own about that maybe you do maybe you do I’m so happy though right now to have with me live in studio which means you can see us on the YouTubes at kbla 1580 uh he’s the author of the Los Angeles Times bestseller the Divine 9
The history of African-American and fraternities and sororities he has a uh he’s got a another book called black ball the black and white politics of race on America’s campuses um and of of course he is a professor and one of the founders of creative space in L mer Park
Known as the metaphor Club Dr Lawrence Ross good morning good morning good to see you good to see you too it’s been a minute yeah it has been a minute and the reason I say writer creative Jam this morning is that that’s exactly what your business your blackowned business does
Yeah yeah we just uh we just actually went over five years uh in August so wow congratulations thank you so much and you know you’re a big part of that because uh reaching your audience a lot of people that every time I come on they become members so it’s always great so
Yeah we hit the fiveyear mark and we began it as a um a space for writers I used to write it you know quote unquote magic Starbucks even though he didn’t own it for like but you know black folks you know we just still going to call it
That anyway um but we KN knew that there was a need for a place for um particularly people of color but black folks in particular to come in in their neighborhood where they could actually do it inexpensively and write get instruction you know get education and
The like and so I I joke with with my wife excuse me I joke with my wife is that I decided I wasn’t going to um join a uh you know co-working space for like $300 so I decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars to be able to open
Up a space and not the best in terms of economics when you look at it but it was always qualitatively in terms of the ful f for uh the black folks who come into our space it was way more U profitable than you could actually have for me
Going individually to something over in Santa Monica so yeah we are kind of like the hub for uh particularly young emerging uh black riters that’s that’s particularly centered around screenwriting in particular that’s one of our our focuses and of course you know I know that any creative can join
You join and then you have a space away from your home where you can go and concent but also get enriched you guys have a lot of enrichment programs yeah we one thing that we have is as part of our Center is kind of like shrinking
Access and privilege um if we have it then we bring it to Crenshaw you know we’re you know we’re born and raised off khaw so our thing is you know we don’t come back to the neighborhood to give back we’re we still live in the neighborhood so right you know
Continuously giving back yeah and and it’s one of those things where everything we recognize everything uh my partners and and I recognize that you know everything that we’ve gotten was from khaw um you know me going to Berkeley uh my other partner going to Stanford it was he went to dorsy it was
All off cring Shaw and so one of the things that we decided to do was anything that we learned we would bring it back so I’m a I always joke that I’m a recovering UCLA Film School grad and so and so I love you know UCL but it had
His issues and one of the issues was that when I was in uh grad school they they like to tell you that there 5,000 people apply for the screenwriting program and only 25 got in to make you feel nice and special but the problem was there was only two black people and
I was one of them and what that means is not just the representation in this room but you know when I wrote things this is 15 years ago when I wrote Things uh that would have you know black references or black characteristics or you know these are just not brown skinned white people
You know a lot of times when we read them and my my classmates were great but they wouldn’t get references or my community and the next year they decided oh we’re going to add 10 more people to our you know to the cohort right and I
Was like oh great it’s going to be 35 we should like triple this right and they got one black person and I said you know when when we open up the the metaphor Club I said you know what we’re going to change that you switch it up and we’re
Going to hear black people’s voices so one of the things we do and we’re kind of known for is the first 10 pages of your script for um uh for a black screenwriters it doesn’t matter whether or not you’ve this your first time you’ve ever done it or you know you’ve
Been staffed you can come in on a monthly basis and we bring actors together to actually read your p pages so you can hear how those pages actually are going um that really became an important thing in the neighborhood because there is no place or at least
When we first started five years ago to have that happen and so people almost always swamp us to get their Pages read um it’s very critical because it’s a critical step for writers because you have those voices in your head when you’re writing them and you think they
Sound great but when you have actors have to really read the dialogue or you know to see where the various elements actually work it only happens when you have a table read and we always invite anyone to come here it’s great it’s like listening in the first 10 minutes of
Netflix right when you’re you know hit a show that they say to go watch and you’re going uh I don’t know if that works for me and then you change the channel or you’re just engross and that allows people to actually understand whether or not their pages are working
That’s amazing and of course writers are on strike um right now which can’t be great for the metaphor Club yeah it’s a effect I mean we support the writers and you know we always have supported the writers um but you know the realities are that you know what happens is that
When you have a uh it’s it’s a little bit like the pandemic when the when the pandemic occurred we we joke to ourselves we practiced for you know tsunami riots earthquakes fires but not a global pandemic that actually um whose business model you know you for whose uh
Effects really hit a business model of collectively bringing people together in a space uh the same thing for the strike the wga strike um we want them to get everything that they deserve but it does because when writers are out of work you know they can’t pay dues and one of the
Things that happens is that we’re dues we we only charge $99 a month but our people are very very loyal in terms of paying their dues on a monthly basis but you know it’s practical if you can’t pay your dues I mean if you can’t you know
Have income coming in you can’t pay your dues so we’re rooting for a settlement but not a settlement just on you know settlement’s worth we want a settlement that really does reward the writers yeah and looks like we’re seeing some daylight here hopefully we’ll see um some progress you know the writers and
Uh the and the Studios have met for two days in a row yeah I I think that’s the first I’ve heard of that since uh this has started in May yeah I mean you know I think the last I don’t know what day we’re on right now for the strike but I
Think the last one in the mid 2000s was like about 100 and something days but you kind of knew that this was going to be a lot longer because you know there’s a it’s it we’re at a kind of a Crossroads because for the writers you know they’re looking at you know
Residuals for the streaming services that are just pennies and what’s really happening is that oftentimes you know 20 30 years ago a writer could work on a show that was you know on the network you know ABC NBC or CBS and pay you know for their mortgage or send their kids to
School by residuals you know so if you worked on quote unquote you know worked on living single or if you worked on friends or if you worked on whatever you could make money long after you the show ended because it was playing in you know in England it was playing in across the
United States you would get checks just like you know when I get royalty checks for for books but now it’s kind of everything’s trying to be turned into like a gig economy you know where you come to write and we parse it out well excuse me not we but the studios parse
It out so that you you have shorter amounts of time to actually work so you only get paid x amount of weeks and then you got to go back out and try to hustle up some more more work at a different show um and then also there’s it’s
Really opaque when it comes to how much uh money that they’re actually getting from streaming because they don’t show the writers what the the numbers are so if you the easy way to say it would be like uh if it’s a show on ABC NBC or CBS you
Can look at the ratings neelson will tell you what the ratings are you go oh you know this is a hit show you know but with it coming on streaming they can say well we have three billion streams okay do we know that you know do can anyone
Else see it and they don’t really show they don’t they don’t show right and what do those streams add up to in terms of dollars is another very mysterious thing I mean if you look on Netflix everything is always a top 10 show everything is always a top 10 show we
Have no idea of no top 10 what right they kind of just run their own uh sort of marketing thing and and that leaves actors and writers at a disadvantage yeah and I mean we get we keep getting these stories of uh writers who get win
Awards and you know for shows that are phenomenal and they’re winning the awards they can’t make it they don’t have gas money to get to the award show yeah that was kind of the story of squid games which was one of the hugest hits of the past year oh yeah and
International you know International uh because you know that’s a Korean um production um what typically would happen is that okay an America they would go you know have the fight over here and we’ll deal with the strike over here but we’ll Source it out to International well International
Productions I mean uh writers and the like were saying wait wait wait how come we’re not getting paid you know we’re not a you know we’re not basically a writer sweat shop over here you know we want to get paid too and we were paid pennies and so it’s a it’s a reckoning
Also for the studios because the studios are kind of like bifurcated you have your traditional Studios say for example the Disney and the paramounts and things like that and then you have your Netflix and Amazon who’s you know who are tech companies te really not necessarily creative or they’re emerging as creative
Companies they started as tech companies yeah I mean you know they they don’t have any allegiance to what happened before you know they look at you know that’s a good way of putting it yeah well they they were at the table uh late into the night last night they yeah they
Said uh and it’s uh they said they’re starting again today so that’s the first time three days in a row negotiating hopefully we’ll see some light at the end of this tunnel yeah um and and yeah it’s been 140 days yeah that’s longer I I kind of
Wondered whether or not the the studios would I don’t know try to make it with some of the you know the early you know comments that you know some of the executives had about you know kind of C wanting to crush the writers and
Things like that I kind of had it in my head that might want to go all the way through the holiday season and try to do something to you know really make you know writers feel the pain because you know it’s still this the still the old
Thing of you know workers and you know the the capitalist Big Boss fat cats I mean it then and but I think they overplay their hand Studios I mean I think they all these comments about starving people out and you know people losing their houses and actors being
Unrealistic all it did was fire up the writers and actors more and every time we turn around there’s another dumb quote or thing that gets people mad or I think you know there was a story in the LA Times about how Drew Barrymore saying she was going to bring back her her show
Just re-energized everybody sadly for her yeah and I mean it was it was funny I saw this one thing was like Drew just couldn’t bear the strike in her three homes you know what I mean and I think what happens is that there’s I I always um talk to like the young emerging
Writers and like that I always tell them to be aware of Fame you know a lot of times Fame is corrosive and you get disconnected from what how real people actually live you know and um and I think there’s that disconnect where not only do you you know personally
Disconnect but you don’t even have people around you to say that’s not really a good idea I was honestly I was surprised that Bill Maher followed suit cuz he’s such a an independent spirit and he can be a bit of a kudan so I didn’t expect him but he also stepped
Back from because he had said yeah we’re going back to work and then he he resented that oh yeah I have you know friends who were like we’re waiting for him you know we are waiting for him when he gets when he gets to a studio and I
Think as Krogan as you are when you have to look people people in the in the face and you know basically you’re you know scabbing or you’re trying to you know break their you know their livelihood you have to have some s of some sort of
No matter how much you protest some sort of moral know part within your soul that says I don’t know if this is actually right and Bill Maher is a writer so there’s got to be a part of him that’s going I’m yeah I mean that’s the crossing my own picket line it’s the
Whole point it’s literally shooting yourself in the foot and it doesn’t make any sense and uh but you know there are people you know go ahead and decide to do that but you know I think the solidarity is holding right now um and I loved how they you know from the start
They had a you know a really great clear message of what they were going to do and what they weren’t going to do and they weren’t going to be run over and I love that fact talking with Dr Ross Dr Lawrence Ross and you’re invited to call
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You you write about HBCU and um the Divine 9 uhuh and and HBCU really are having quite a moment yeah I mean because you know one of the things that you know we’ve always you know valued HBCU and uh it’s kind of cyclical one of the things that happens is that you know
For example 30 years ago with you know different world that came out and then people yeah yeah people who had never you know particularly on the west coast who didn’t have a connection with HBCU were like hey wait a second you mean there are these schools that actually
Nurture and actually uh you know want you to succeed versus battling on a you know pwi a predominantly white institution sign me up and so you know I think I want to say the numbers went up 30 or 40% you yeah in in terms of uh its
Impact and now with the end of affirmative action you’re going to start to see the exact same thing you’re going to start seeing um you know a lot of of parents look at it because it’s kind of chicken egg you know you can still go to a predominately white institution
Particularly here in California because one of the ways that the UC and the calate systems works is that it’s relatively inexpensive uh in comparison to other state you know universities around the around the country so you’re going to still see black students go to various UCCS and
And and CSUS but you’re also going to see the applications for uh HBCU just ramp up the now the the critical thing is for those HBCU to get that are not the quote unquote big Brands to start get those applications right and and for people to understand what the where
Those are and what those are cuz doesn’t always say black in the tip in fact it hardly ever says black yeah yeah yeah I mean we talking about the morous or Spellman’s you know Morehouse being the all men’s uh College in Atlanta and Spellman being the exact same place uh
All girl all women then you have Howard and you know Fisk and you know you know they’re all around in terms of they’ve been you know here basically since the end of the the Civil War um and it’s important for you know for you know students to
Really go out and explore them you know they all have just like any other school they all have like their emphasis you know if you go to like North Carolina and North Carolina Central and things like that the really big engineering uh you know emphasis uh going to Hampton there’s just you know
Over a hundred different HBCU and I’ve been to pretty much most of them wow and they are all wonderful to you know to go to and I I think you know I you know my big thing you know like I talk about the the metaphor Club I say black space is
Intentional you know you have to you know go to intentional black spaces in order to be um you know to be I think your your full self you know your your full self doesn’t mean that you can’t you know be on a pwi and be there and
Then gather and you know and create a collective of black folks and create your own black space there but there is something different about going to historically black College University yeah um you know it’s funny you said it’s cyclical right I think the vice president being from Howard has also
Made it where you can’t even get into Howard now how is just like off the chart yeah Howard is like uh you know the one thing is uh my son is in grad school and uh he had applied to Howard but you know we didn’t get the notice
Until a little bit until he had already made his decision and uh and then afterwards he was like I still would love to go check out Howard and everything I said but we didn’t put that money down so so if he hadn’t put the money down he would have been able to go
Uh check it out and everything but yeah it’s um it’s it’s a it’s a it’s a wonderful experience and I think it’s an impactful experience it’s an important experience um for uh for for black folks in particular yeah I was happy to see uh council member Heather Hut uh you know
Teaming up with the Michelle and Brock Obama sent her to do that HBCU event yeah I it was last week yeah to bring the flavor here locally because I mean we have CDU Charles Drew which is officially not in HBCU I think we missed it by one year or something like that
Yeah but it is really our only HBCU right out here in California and I think we’ve seen um a number of HBCU um alums organized um either say for example alumni events at North Carolina Central played UCLA last week um and so at the Rose Bowl you had a whole bunch of in
You know HBCU uh alums come out including then North Carolina Central alums come out um I think uh in fact one of my fraternity Brothers uh my Alpha fraternity Brothers is doing uh a an HBCU kind of I I’m not completely sure but it’s kind of I guess like a Expo out in
Carson uh in late October around like the 28th or 29th don’t don’t quote me on the exact date but he I know he’s doing something out there so a lot of the alums are really kind of pushing it out there and really being great ambassadors because growing up in California you
Know unless your folks you know come from you know various aspects like they come from the south and they come to you know Los Angeles or their you know HBCU alums and they have a direct uh connection you can be disconnected from it but I think it’s I think the culture
Is starting to spread I mean even Beyonce you know with the kind of you know in her previous concerts where she had basically an HBCU like you know band and you know song girls and things like that and dance teams and things like that that really impacted um people they
Started asking questions it’s like what is this and it was like this is HBCU culture that she’s honoring uh and that is one of those things that keeps going but on the political you know we still also have to keep our eyes open because the exact same factors that in terms of
How uh the people who do not want black people to be educated still happen for HBCU at the same time uh funding at the state level funding at the federal level um we’ve got to be vigilant yeah that’s a really good point um but I think you know it’s it’s good to
See the culture like you say thriving here I know um this attorney at dma she’s an entertainment attorney her and some other there are bison they alumni they have something called Howard Wood right which for people from Howard in Hollywood and you know and and organizations like that to your point
Yeah I mean what those those organizations always do is they basically say and as I I talk about is that they typically it’s about I see you you know what I mean this I see you we come from a common experience and I’m not going to let you like you know Copus
You know push the rock up the hill by yourself you your the emphasis on um our camaraderie goes beyond the gates you know but when we get a degree so you know the mere fact of being able to uh you know help those people makes make
Sense as I was telling you off uh off the air you know the metaphor club we just did a emerging black screenwriters uh program and I would ask people where they’re from and where they went to school and you know the HBCU always crack me up because they’re like you
Know I’m here representing Fisk University I’m representing Howard University and U and so there’s there’s always this notion that uh the mission of HBC goes well beyond what it is on the campus yeah and it’s interesting that we we we’re going into News traffic and sports right now but it’s
Interesting the Biden Administration is pushing these uh some of the states um that uh have land grant HBCU to address the disparities in funding right now and some of the HBCU are stepping up with a lawsuit yeah well they say they’ve been underpaid billions of dollars yeah I
Mean you we find this all the time and then also what happens a lot lot for example if I remember correctly like uh Morgan State for example came up with a program I think I want to say it’s the NBA program that was really well done and then the predominant white
Institution was like hey we want to do the exact same thing wow you know News traffic and Sports and More conversation on kbla talk 1580 she’s reclaiming her time on kbl talk 1580 more first things first with Dominic de Prima when we come forward I’m Mike Moore here the from the
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Record they beat the Giants last night by five designator hitter JD Martinez drove in three runs the Dodgers are three and a half games behind Atlanta for the best record and HomeField advantage throughout the play play offs interesting decision Saturday for college football fans in the western
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The first Pack 12 Conference game for Colorado coach Deion Sanders fifth ranked USC has a night game Saturday at Arizona State 7:30 kickoff on Fox no debates no speculation just the info you need that’s your kbl sports minute I’m Ray Richardson more news opinions and conversation when we come forward on kbl talk
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Contactthe metaphor club.com and we’ll send you a link and anybody can join or do you have to have certain credentials no no no no no no we are the least gatekeeper uh place in the world you know our whole thing is that you know just be a good
Human being you know when you come in you know if you if you you know and respect everybody inside the club and you’ll you’ll instantly find yourself inside the community and then you know we also have a uh we we try to let people know we also have a space uh
Right next to our club that we actually rent out for like art uh program we do everything we always joke it we rent it out for you know art galleries uh we’ll have uh a you know a a bridal fair in the in the in the morning we’ll have a
Baby shower in the in the in the afternoon and then a repass in the evening you know in our space we literally had that in in the past and everything so uh we rent out our our space right next to it’s like a 1,200 sqt um you know clean white box box that
We say you can transform into anything that you want just for $100 an hour and then just give it back to us a clean white box and we’re good yeah and that’s so you don’t have to be a member to rent that no you don’t have to be a member to
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Workshop or you know you have a popup so we’ve had popups workshops and in particular um art you know for young people uh I I I mentioned that my son is uh is an artist he graduated from Art Center he’s at scad now and um you know
I looked at it from the POV of if he wanted to do something how could he do something that was still not you know that was affordable that he could invite his friends and other artists to do that wouldn’t break their Banks and you know again our whole idea excuse me our whole
Idea is to be of the community right and it’s a great location I mean it’s right there’re um right on cring shaww right AC across the street from kbla talk 1580 speaking of gatekeeper um what about this guy um from the Rolling from one of the co-founders of Rolling Stone uh magazine
Who is it Yan is that how you say John Warner yeah he he um was also really like the main influential guy over the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame although they’ve kicked him to the curb yeah yeah um he he did an interview for the New York Times
Um where he started talking he was talking about a book he’s done so in this book I guess he interviews what he considers the great greats right Rock and the quote unquote masters of uh of rock and roll right which is ironic in it in itself by way
Well yeah now that you say it it’s quite ironic um but what when he was explaining why everyone that he chose for his book called The Masters was white and male yeah and and and derivative of all the black people who to the and to the to the artist credit
All have always said no I’m inspired by Little Richard um you know uh Chuck Tina Turner all these black people I am from England we don’t we play uh Skittle music before this and now we got black American uh music and we were inspired hell even the title Rolling Stone itself
Is from black people and so good point yeah and so one of the things that but I’m not surprised uh you know I you know in my former life uh I used to be uh the managing editor of of rap sheet uh hip-hop magazine out here in in in
Southern California and we knew Rolling Stone didn’t like black people back then it was it wasn’t surprising it was one of those Gatekeepers where you know they looked at hip-hop in particular as being this non-music and that only real hip rocking R was uh a White Band even as
Frivolous as some of these bands were that’s how they looked at it but then again we you know we have to go back you know 20 30 years ago you know particular with rolling stone 40 50 years ago um about how segregated music was and white
People in particular when it came to um you know being Gatekeepers of what was true rock and roll I mean honestly yeah you I don’t know if you don’t even have to go back that far you know I think about the early days of Hip Hop yeah
Yeah it was one of those things I know it’s 50 years old but I’m talking about like the the ’90s yeah I’m talking about the Golden Era like the the late ‘ 80s early ’90s where it was still very segregated yeah look at MTV they they didn’t back then they didn’t play black
Artists they they like MTV loves to kind of you know gloss over the fact that they didn’t they didn’t and and wouldn’t play black artists I mean going back even earlier before with with Michael Jackson you know they weren’t going to play Michael Jackson unless they were
Basically were given a threat of like you don’t play Michael Jackson you don’t get the rest of our roster but when it came to hip-hop oh everybody else was uh having to do it basically either on a local you know in terms of uh like video
Box in in um in in New York or you know we both you know G you know grew up you know lived in in the Bay Area U soby you know you home turf don’t forget my show home turf and soby right soie goes back a little further though but yeah um so
For those who missed it uh guy said that no women or people of color were articulate enough on this intellectual level level so they cannot be seen as philosophers of rock and I all I can when I read that all I could hear were black people’s head exploding because in
Particular he’s talking about you know like an era like the 70s in particular the late 60s early 70s right and it’s not you know okay you pick just any other generation maybe you can argue over here and argue over there there you know you say well maybe the ‘ 80s were
Over here and something wasn’t really going on it was a specific mindset you’re talking about Stevie Wonder with with like a series of albums that have basically never been matched as a singer songwriter but you’re also talking about he talked about women too so he just
Said yeah he said no women and he said and then he goes on to say maybe for Public Relation sake I should have gone and found one black and one woman artist to include here that didn’t measure up to the same historical standard just to avert this kind of criticism oh just see
It’s like he would have to stoop to go and talk to earthwind and fire or stoop to go and talk to Nina Simone or yeah well because he his his or Gil Scott Haron yeah or yeah talk about Gil you telling me Gil Scott Herod is not a
Philosopher not a philosopher at all so one of the things even in that statement right there or James Brown hell all everybody Lord everybody so right in that statement tells you right there how the racism is right yeah because his default right there is that not just the
Idea of performative I’m adds some people is that I don’t think any of them any of them match what I call you know my my white metric of what it means to be a philosopher the mere fact that he can’t get out of whatever his Silo is
And recognize the the and which is the beauty of music by the way by the way you are you know the Glorious of music is not just listening or being in your own sphere and saying you know oh I I I love this particular thing but it’s a
Broad sphere I as a black man can appreciate Hank Williams it is not hard for me to appreciate Hank Williams but at the exact same time I love all the different um you know uh black country artists right I can get into because I appreciate music I can appreciate them
Right plus you would never have the audacity to say that you’re the one that gets to decide that there’s no white person in this genre who can even who can should be in the room because they don’t have the intellectual capacity it’s insane and no women and the crazy
Thing about this to me is that well it’s one of the crazy things is that this is rolling stone the ultimate gatekeeper magazine that being on the cover being featured in Rolling Stone is is a is a thumbs up or thumbs down for your entire Legacy and this is the mentality of one
Of the Gatekeepers one of the co-founders so it you know how has this impacted the coverage of rock and roll over their entire history yeah that’s what you that’s exactly how systemic racism occurs you have a gatekeeper with metrics that you up on the outside make
It seem as oh it’s all egalitarian you know we’re just judging rock and roll and music on its merits right but in reality the mentality is none of the black artists are deep enough or philosophical enough because I can’t relate to him that’s what his whole deal
Was and or Andor I’ve never talked to them or read anything they’ve written yeah even you know yeah but you’re right they can’t relate yeah and and so therefore they become if they they’re arrogant enough to believe that they are the metric for it what don’t they cover
What are the albums or what are the thing in fact it’s not even that what are the things they emphasize what are the ones are the artists that are black artists that they say oh yes this is truly what you know we should be covering I remember at the beginning and
I I don’t want to be you know specific on you know roll Stone what they did um but I remember going back you know the early parts of uh hip-hop and BC boys you know had come out and the BC boys were popular in the black community you
Know for a whole bunch of other songs you know and other things that you know in their first uh their first album but if I remember correctly Rolling Stone emphasized the most rock version of the be of Beasty Boys um which was like No Sleep to Brooklyn and everything and I
And I remember thinking about that I was like that’s not what we even are listening to in the in the hip-hop culture and yet y’all determine that this is the most popular thing this is the thing that we should emphasize as being the one that actually has is the
Rock and roll version of right which is why these you know whiny posts and and and uh you know missives from people like Eminem and people like that just don’t make any sense cuz you always got extra love from Rolling Stone from Time Magazine from Newsweek you always got
Extra love have that barrier to get extra love whether you’re talented or not right they were looking for you right right they weren’t looking because they didn’t have um um folks uh reporters who were immersed in the culture and who were reporters they had people who would dip into the culture
And kind of try to interpret it and then go back and then go back with yeah you know I haven’t been in a newsroom for a long time you know go back to producers had no clue and so what were they going to try to do lean toward what they know
Yep yep yep yeah I you know I want to talk about the impact on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your thoughts on that because that apparent is a huge controversy now too and does this change anything we’ll look at that when we come forward talking with Dr Lawrence Ross
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Um go to uh well I guess you can uh go to Metaphor the metaphor club.com find out more yeah the metaphor club.com or just come by come by the uh the the uh the club we’re at 4333 CAW Boulevard in lamur park where’re I always like to say
We’re across the street from kbla and we’re also across the street from Taco M yeah you know what a great uh what a great shopping uh exur Excursion that is hey I eat those three me burritos like everybody else so um so we’re talking about this
Guy J Yan winter who’s over one of the co-founders of Rolling Stone a guy who bragged about his influence as a chair of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and was really a gatekeeper there about who gets in right and they have a whole board apparently though part of the
Dance of who gets into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has to do with whether or not they’re going to show up to get their award and what the relations of the of the Hall of Fame are with the artist right so they had a total
Meltdown when uh Mr wnter said these things in LA Times and and immediately voted him off the board right and if you ever think about the like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame you’re constantly going when a black you know person gets uh elected you’re constantly going dang
They’re just now getting elected right you you you find yourself doing it because you you you would think that how it would go you like you know letting me you know just you know Mr you know Mr Ross from Englewood you know just do do my thing I’m going all black folks right
From the beginning right we’re gonna it may be 20 years before we get to y’all right maybe we’ll get you know uh Jerry Jerry Lee Lewis in the midst of all that and everything as we go through but you know what we’re going black folks y’all
And so it’ll be like every year we’re going to do five right and it’s going to be five black people until we finish getting all the early folks you know the little Richards the Chuck barries and everything all in um uh and then we get
To your era you know that type of thing but no it’s always black folks to just like add it on you know an afterthought an afterthought an afterthought in your own genre it’s funny too because he made these sexist remarks in this year’s honores are Kate Bush Missy Elliott
Cheryl Crow uh the The Spinners are there right George Michael poisly Rage Against the Machine and Willie Nelson yeah like like you know in some ways even the the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame it’s a is a marketing gimmick if you just kind of think about it right
Because it’s kind of trying to quantify the worth of of of musicians um you know it’s like same way the Grammys I guess does too but it’s trying to quantify the uh the overall worth of like their of their um of their careers and if you go back I’m bet you
If you go back and look at all the the inductees you could put it on a graph about when when Warner’s um uh emphasis on like White Rock from the 1960s I bet you all those people are the ones who are you know mostly in before most of
The prominent black artists were were in yeah you know even though those to those their credit there’s very rarely do I you know the Roman stones will tell you you know like uh and Little Richard told him you I don’t know if you saw the Little Richard documentary did I loved
It yeah and he was you was talking about Little Richard told you know big Jagger you were sleeping on my floor right and they acknowledge you know the the debt that they had um but you know it’s God bless them well apparently there was a book that came out in 2017 the Sticky
Fingers of Life and Times of Jan wnter and Rolling Stone magazine in which he’s quoted saying that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame he says in a sense it’s owned by Rolling Stone it’s a creation of Rolling Stone it’s unfair to some people to say that but that’s what it is
It’s my thing yeah well not anymore they voted him out of here and I I partly credit um I partly credit all the protests and marches of 2020 for making this happen so quick you don’t get to just talk you don’t get to just do that admit to widespread systemic
Discrimination yeah and then keep on pushing like uh in the past yeah but he thought he was comfortable enough to actually use that and use the justification he never thought to himself that he would ever be held accountable to it and guess what light comes at you
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Hall of Fame or Rolling Stone are going to do anything to try to you know recover their images uh we were reading uh during News traffic and sports that according to a study in 2019 just 7.7% of the people inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame through 2019 were
Women it’s insane that’s it’s insane and do you think what’s what’s kind of delicious about this do you think Rage Against the Machine is going to actually say something when they get oh well I I would imagine I would imagine they should or would yeah uh apparently when he was
Confronted with that he said we have to be race neutral and gender neutral in judging music that’s always a sign for white men that’s always that’s always like we just want white men y’all so we don’t want anything dealing with race or gender that’s always call us out we
Going to just nominate our friends yes it’s always if if the default normal in my life is white men that’s what we going to get and that’s basically whenever you hear that race neutral or gender neutral you know I’m like geez what the hell yeah well I I think you
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