Hey everybody how’s it going thanks for joining me this afternoon I’ve got a great stream with a great guest that I think you’re really going to enjoy so obviously on the show we tend to stick mostly to American politics for I think what are pretty obvious reasons however
It is sometimes very useful to look at what’s happening in other nations especially when they can provide us a case study for a phenomenon that is also occurring in our own country here in the United States now recently Australia had a referendum on whether or not they should have official recognition of
Their indigenous population as part of their government and they ended up rejecting that and what a what was a pretty surprising vote I think for a lot of people outside of Australian politics wouldn’t have expected it to go that way especially as Australia seems to have been drifting pretty pretty hard
Leftward uh especially throughout the coid years so a surprising rejection for many of that kind of referendum but what is very interesting is while the voters rejected that referendum the media and the government and the corporations in Australia have kind of openly already begun to talk about how they’re planning
To subvert the will of the voters and that is something that of course we as Americans those in uh Britain and other countries have seen a pretty regular basis so I thought it would be very useful to look at this and joining me is an Australian native Furious perx thanks for coming on
Man pleasure as always thanks I know this was quite last minute and uh I apologize for my uh second rate little setup here but thank you for being tolerant of that and uh pleasure to be on your show once again so hello to you and hello to all your your wonderful
Guests no absolutely like I said very glad to have because I was just going to look at this but of course it’s always much more valuable to have somebody who is you know in the thick of things who is familiar with what’s going on uh and
Can give us some background so I’m very glad that you were able to kind of join me at the last second there so just to set the stage for a lot of people in the United States of course we have a long history a story history uh kind of with
The native inhabitants of uh the Americas uh there you know this kind of obsessed our media the Cowboy versus Indian is kind of a classic archetype for our entertainment our media those kind of things however for Americans this question is more or less settled like if you go to really uh you know
Leftwing areas they might do like a land acknowledgement of you know a certain tribe used to own this land that kind of thing and there of course still a you know interactions with the United States government and the Indian population I’m going to call Indians Indians because they usually don’t like Native American
That that’s actually not the preferred uh uh nomenclature for most people who are uh who are of those tribes however for the most part Americans don’t really think a lot about you know kind of their indigenous population it’s kind of brought up of oh all the terrible things
That happened or you know the colonization probably or something like that you know they’re they’re taught to feel really bad about it in school but the day-to-day interactions with kind of the current descendants of those native populations just isn’t really a big part of I think the American Consciousness in
The way that it seems to be for many people in places like Canada and Australia so can you give for people who are unfamiliar with the back ground kind of the lay of the land for the relationship between uh kind of the the indigenous population and Australia as it is
Today well I’ll do my best to sort of provide something of a tldr shall I say yeah it’s a big topic I know yeah I think in comparison to the to the American subject and again I would confess a degree of ignorance to the the American equivalent with your Native
American so I do apologize if I get some things mistaken but I think comparatively there’s there was probably less genuine animosity between Australian aboriginals and the British sort of um you know colonist settler populations in so far that amongst the Australian AB regionals there was never
Um you know like there wasn’t ever sort of a great conflict between these these two very different peoples I mean there were sort of skirmishes and it was you know rifles and javelins and and whatever at one another like skirmishes you know in places such as you know
Victoria or fron New South Wales or the early um early days of sort of settler Western Australia around the Swan Swan River Colony um but it was it was not to the same scale or intensity of say you know if you look at say like in tuno and
His role say with the um the uh you know the wars with the the British in 1812 and the Westwood expansion of the Americas and then sort of obviously more or as famously you know the whole um you know Wounded Knee sort of situation we
We never we we never had that kind of I hate to use the word but savagery and it and and sort of it wasn’t over such a uh um even a wide sort of territorial expans and like we sort of chatting about pre-show you had these very distinct American Indian
Groups for example you had you know the Cherokee and the Sue and the um you know the Apache Indians that you know very doggedly resisted in in particular circumstances the expansion of the American nation westwards was that just wasn’t quite so here and as a consequence I I think once um the
Australian the the the colonies all um mutually agreed to Federation in 1901 even though AR would not be given the vote until or full en franchisement until the the mid-60s um there was sort of always not always but certainly probably from the world war periods and onwards there’s this idea whereby yes
Aboriginals are a part of Australia Rich large but because there was such a obvious you existential Chasm between European society and European development and what the Europeans encountered when they came here with the aboriginals which is again probably even more of a golf than what the Native
American Indians had with the with the American or the British descended pioneers and the Americas um there was almost this sentiment of well we actually have to help these people there is actually such a large Chasm between us and them that we sort of have this role of custodianship over them and
There’s a very very famous interview um sorry if I had if I knew the stream was happening a couple days ago I would have actually sent you the link I apologize or but I do ende I do encourage people to look at this there’s a wonderful
Um uh a YouTube clip and it’s from ABC is in the the Australian equivalent of BBC the Australian Broadcasting Corporation whereby they actually ask and they interview very waspish waspish Australians from the city you know what their attitudes were what their their mindset regarding the question was it’s
Like yes we actually need to help our bruners we need to help provide sustenance we have to you know build them schools and build them houses it’s it was a very sort of you might say paternalistic mentality which leftist would obviously frown upon today but I
Guess the point I’m trying to make was is that once Australia was Federated and essentially once the aboriginals were sort of incorporated into Australian Society there wasn’t a deep animus between those two culture groups if you get what I mean I’m sorry if I’ve articulated that poorly but no no
I so uh so when it comes to kind of the the proposition itself you were you explaining to this to me in more detail so obviously there’s a referendum proc process you can do uh direct votes from the people kind of direct democracy uh and what was on the table here seemed to
Be a a an what was being presented as an advisory body uh that that the indigenous population would be able to have however you said that the reason that there was so much push back against this is that it was very poorly defined and it’s seemed to to many like it would
Quickly get out of hand there was there was no uh understanding what the limits of its power would be and it might end up with all kinds of different powers that were very poorly laid out in the referendum that’s right because I think I think this analysis has some truth to
It you we’re talking pre-show about how there’s this kind of like and you often talk about you know in videos associated with the subject is it’s so true there like the the the preil rights American Constitution the post civil rights constitution like the sort of MLK
Is a sort of hinge point between those two things and in some regards yes this is kind of a bit of an Australian MLK movement in a sense in that it can open the door to a complete reinterpretation of constitutional law but this particular referendum was like as you
Just said now was more a case of attaching what was described as an advisor body to our political system but one that was intentionally ill ill defined very vague extremely ambiguous as to its purpose and its function and more um sort of more disconcertingly what was the well in the
End I don’t know if you’ve seen the news articles about this and I mean perhaps we can bring it up before the show ends but there are a number of states who have basically said the referend and be damned um we’re going to do a state-based equivalent of this in terms
Of you know the very states of Australia rather than as a as a Federal Institution um and actually this is already present in South Australia if I’m if I’m not mistaken as well and so there’s already that sort of overriding of the will of the people anyway and and
The second part of this and again we talked about this pretty sure was that once the the point of doing by referenda was it it basically would etch it and entrench it and the only way it could ever be unpicked which it probably would never be unpicked anyway but the only
Two methods of doing it would be to have a super majority in both houses the upper and lower house much like you guys we have like a house of representatives and a senate um and or it would have to be another referendum and in most countries in the modern world most
Things that ever get passed by referendum which are difficult anyway ever rarely if never then get get rescinded by referendum as well there’s a degree of permanency that exists in referenda that often don’t tend to exist in other Realms of politics so there’s that factor to consider but then I
Suppose to the actual tenor of this discussion today and you know I remember you first pointing this out was that because of the sort of role that modern day um sort of corporates play in this sort of intersection between corporations and Academia and journalism and news media Etc
Again the will of the people be damned it will sort of be done by any and all other means anyway irrespective the of the outcome so there’s that to consider absolutely well I want to go ahead and like you said I’ve got two kind of news
Stories here and I I want to look at them because they’ll frame the discussion we’re having uh because I want to hit on both parts like you’re saying the referendum itself and then the way that basically the government and these corporations and media are coll uding to basically subvert the
Referendum vote so we’re going to hit both of those topics but let’s let’s start with this one now now both of these uh articles are from Reuters I want people to remember that um most of the news that they see is not it’s all it’s it’s mostly centralized by a few
Organizations you have a few wire organizations you have places like Reuters you have places like the AP and most news organizations do not have IND individual reporters in different places they don’t have the resources you know there used to be an understanding that like all of these newspapers and all of
These TV networks and all of these different places needed to have their own War correspondents and foreign correspondents and they needed to have offices around the world so that that would allow them to you know to Source their own news and and to bring break stories that are unique and those kind
Of things like that was part of the journalism business was was having that ability to kind of send a force out that would bring you know Eyewitness News to your readers that was that was a big selling point of those organizations but yes just to say as well each of
These organizations um also expected to have their own internal checks and balances as well like once upon a time that was a part of journalistic Integrity which obviously doesn’t exist anymore yeah no they used to have you’re you’re right they had the walls of separation between opinion and and you
Know news editorial and you know all these things like there were there were checks all of these different things these were all supposed to be safeguards against kind of what we see now but today there’s only a handful of organizations that actually have any kind of Correspondence any kind of
Foreign bureaus and for the most part you’ve really just got a couple different organizations that write the news for everybody your local newspaper all the way up to Major news outlets that you think would have their own correspondents or bureaus they don’t have those and they rely almost entirely
On blurbs and and and pieces written from these handful of news networks so once someone’s like like Rutters or AP or somebody writes a very biased article the opinions of that are going to be you just echoed through all these different places because none of these organizations have their own uh ability
To like go to those places have a bureau have a war correspondent have somebody to actually get real reporting done they’re just going to take the information from the newswire or from the services or of the major papers and they’re just going to recut it and
They’re just going to kind of add their own words in add their own spin in and then send it back out with new ads that that’s kind of the business model for most media Outlets today so when we see a piece as biased as this one in Reuters
Remember it’s not just going to be Reuters that’s going to be biased that their their language their framing their understanding is going to set the tone for literally thousands of other news outlets from what we read right here so let’s jump into this real quick and Furious you just jump in
Um you know kind of as we go when you see something you want to talk about but the the headline here is Australia reject rejects indigenous referendum in a setback for reconciliation so from the from the headline here we can already see incredible bias right and they don’t
Even get through the headline without saying oh people voted the wrong way and this is obviously bad so because they use the phrase setback but let’s talk about the phrase reconciliation real quick because in America we’re seeing this racial Reckoning or reconciliation language use a lot and whenever they use
This they use this in uh you know connection to something like BLM and when they say reconciliation what they really mean is racial animus and Punishment we need to take from One race that we see as the oppressor we need to punish them they need to be held down we
Need to take their money we need to put them on a lower uh you know socio uh social status uh they need to be less able to get jobs less able to go to college we need to focus focus on reducing and holding down one group and then giving those things to another
Group that happens to politically benefit the left that’s what they mean by reconciliation but when they’re using it in this terminology what what’s the context for the Australian use of reconciliation well again as we sort of chatted just before we we we went live
Um as I was saying to you this has been and for anyone who was a went to primary school or you School sort of by and large from the late 80s onwards and certainly through the ’90s there was a major push even in educational institutions back then to engage in
Things such as you know reconciliation uh day U naok week which is kind of like this sort of national Australian indigenous sort of cultural understanding kind of you know idea you know that that was sort of conceived of back then um and then of course even our our television channels
And our radio channels like they they have as a result of public Lars have been given essentially entire platforms and um infrastructures to to perform you know like they they to to tell their own news to perform their own you know arts and and shows and to spread their own
Message on the back of other people’s you know Blood Sweat and Tears you know in the end that’s ultimately what public expend expend is when it comes from tax because for instance our um ABC like the British BBC is entirely a public institution um and as we know all these
Institutions are completely um overpopulated overrun by the left in every possible you know imaginary way and um and the other thing is I just want to touch on the on the title uh as well is that what’s interesting about this and perhaps your audience wouldn’t
Be aware of this but two of the and this Dynamic itself is kind of problematic in a way but I just want to make the point that two of the leading voices for the no for the rejection of the referendum for the no case were um uh an Aboriginal
Politician by the name of Warren mandine who I actually have um you know I sort of know of and he’s actually quite a very good man and very well educated man at that um quite aidite and he um he was at the absolute Forefront of that and
There’s a young sort of relatively um well say relatively young young Aboriginal politician by name of just juster price she’s got an indital name I I don’t want to mispronounce it um and she’s from the Northern Territory and um you know she’s lived with a lot of this
Uh systemic abuse and and and um you know these a lot of these cultural problems that exist in the Abal sphere and I mean I know on other CH on other channels and other shows we’ve spoken about like you know the young abrial kids and the petrol sniffing or the um
The massively High rates of um of sexual abuse of both adults and minor girls it’s it’s quite a horrendous situation that occurs in a lot of these rural um towns and lot of these Aboriginal missions uh it’s very is very much systemic and uh and she comes out of
That environment and she has become a politician sort of as a consequence of that and so her and and and and jent and Warren became two leading voices of the no case and uh and the leftist media absolutely tore them to pieces in so far that oh sorry for my crudeness of the
Way I frame this but oh they’re basically race traitors like the they they like I suppose the what you call in America the Uncle Tom syndrome of um you know like they don’t know what’s actually good for them like they’re actually sort of serving white supremacy because they don’t want to be empowered
By you know this this wonderful um you know political idea that we’ve come come up with and and the title itself of this IAL really RS of well he didn’t give us what what we wanted so it makes you terrible people and you’ve set it back
Because you not have given us what we’ve wanted and by say we I don’t even mean the abdal as as a monolith I mean the activists left who have created a political constituency of this issue because as we know how the left have been successful in um in politics in in
Electoral politics in in you know this side of the second world war is by engaging like the permanent intellectual rainbow C um of which in Australia the aboriginals are an important factor in that um and uh and yeah I think I think it’s quite telling how they have been so um wounded
By this outcome um I mean certainly as as we’ve touched on they’ll by both political and cultural and media means they will circumvent this referendum one way or another but the result of the refm itself has definitely bruised their ego yeah and it really it really Echoes
The same outrage that we see again from Elites in places like America and the UK because after the you know the initial brexit vote uh you know the the response from the media and the elites were how could you possibly do this how could the people of Britain fail basically the
Elites right like it’s it’s the you know to to Echo Christopher L listen listen Bru what are you doing right yeah we we’ve told you guys like we did the propaganda thing you know how you’re supposed to vote how could you do this and it’s the same again backlash it’s
The same Furious backlash that we saw against Trump voters right because a guy like Trump isn’t so like Hillary Clinton was getting a coronation like obviously Trump could never win this is insane how could you ever let somebody like this come through and the United States government has now gotten to the point
Where they’re literally just locking people up for supporting Trump like did you make a meme did you you know did were were you standing around outside a building during a protest well you’re going to jail because you know sorry sorry Ricky vaugh but your your gallery
Was a bit too spicy for for congress’s liking exactly and and so so that’s where we are in the United States land of the free home of the brave where we have active political prisoners we throw people in jail for disagreeing with Democrats that that that is the reality
Of the United States right now people can can him and ha about the Constitution all they want but you know go ahead and tell Douglas Mackey about it he didn’t get to see his child born because nobody seems to care about the First Amendment anymore uh you know and
So so this is a this is again Echoes that theme it’s a it’s of course a specific Australian issue but the reason I wanted to to bring you in and and bring this issue in is that it so obviously Echoes this sentiment of kind of elite revulsion to what they used to
Pretend was the legitimating mechanism of their rule right like we’re we are uh the voice of the people we have popular sovereignty this is this is what the people want how could you possibly work against the people the only reason they ever clung to that idea is they thought
They had monolithic control of the media they had monolithic control of the narrative they had complete control cultural control and so they could always deliver the type of vote they wanted and now that the people are saying something different they’re incredibly angry and moreover they believe those methods were bulletproof
And even though there has been minor fractures in that you know for instance I think we can say with the degree of confidence that the bre’s outcome is proof of that the Trump election has been proof of that this referendum Australia has been proof of that I mean
They’re not they’re not major wins you know because in the end they’ve been hamstrung by every conceivable what by every conceivable way but they are a demonstration that this isn’t as false faultless as the powers that they would like it to be they often do believe it’s it’s without fault they little apparatus
Will work without interruption and sometimes it doesn’t pan out that way so right here at the top I’ll just go ahead and read this part right here uh Australia had to vote Yes No on the referendum the first in almost a quarter of a century on the question of whether
To alter the Constitution so like you said this isn’t just some random law being passed this this is this is etched into the Constitution this an alteration of the Constitution to recognize the Aboriginal and tourus straight island people through the creation of indigenous advisory body the voice to
Parliament now again when they say recognize these people you the the indigenous population already has the right to vote it already has the right to elect members there are already members in the parliament in fact you told me there’s actually disproportionate number of indigenous uh representation in the parliament so this
Language is very particular because they already know all this they already know that the franchise is available to these people they have equal rights uh they’re actually over represented demographically inside uh the the current elected body and so when they say be recognized and have representation they’re really completely playing on the heartstrings
They’re they’re trying to twist the way people would understand the situation it cast it as if this is some group of people who have been you know thrown aside and they have no ability to to have a voice in the politics that kind of thing but instead know that these are
People who are already fully integrated to the political system already have representation are already over represented Instead This is a body that is brought from the outside it’s etched into the Constitution it’s not just a law and it could fundamentally change the operation of the government indeed and just uh two quick
Points one it’s it’s kind of like um you know it’s it’s a it’s a Lurch at the same time as it is kind of like a an imposition and you know if it had succeeded like like i’ mentioned before it was it’d be a thing that would be
Almost impossible to dislodge uh and the second thing is too because you know I suppose in the context of of you know yourself being American and much you already been American is obviously the the question of sort of civil rights and you sort of have like a pre and a post
Civil rights constitution is that you know once Abel’s got the franchise in in the in the early mid-60s um there has been no legal impediment to their possibilities shall I say of becoming participants in the political uh apparatus in the in the political sphere uh indeed have been many successful
Aboriginal journalists um for instance the the the person who um created the legal precedent for what we call native title in in Australia was um a lawyer but by the name of Eddie marau and the Maro decision created the precedent in Australian law common law of um the
Ability of certain Aboriginal tribes to claim what we call native title over areas which they consider to be tribe tribe sort of tribalistic relevant to their respective sort of ingroup um and and also Al too you know a bit like what you guys experienced with the Native Americans there is that there’s also
This very very generous um wealth apparatus that sustains them and that would not be true for a disadvantaged group or or rather a group that is um oppressed if you get what I mean in fact it’s actually the reverse when the the support for these uh for these minority
Groups is actually wildly inverse as to how any other minority group in the country but the narrative completely betrays that fact yeah and of course we we mirror that in in the United States as well we live literally have a regime of laws built into the Civil Rights Act
And in Court decisions that in Shrine uh you know bias in favor of minorities that are supposed to be oppressed uh we go out of our way in you know both private and public uh institutions to Advantage uh particular groups and then we continue to pretend uh that you know
That that that there’s just this uh amazing amount of systemic bias against uh these groups um interestingly uh it says here that of course the the Nationwide vote uh or sorry that the Nationwide vote was 60% yes and 40% no I guess you need four of the Six States of
Australia to affirm uh you know this uh referendum and it looks like it lost in pretty much every state so it’s not like they lost this by a little bit this isn’t a squeaker uh where you say well it’s not a clear mandate maybe we do this again or maybe the these
Corporations or these states might be justified in kind of you know circumventing this because it didn’t really reflect uh you know a clear decision no this was pretty overwhelmingly a a vast G you know this this is a runaway election in pretty much any political context and Not only
Was it a runaway percentage wise Nationwide it was basically a clean sweep for the no vote on the uh you know on the individual state level so this is just a devastating loss in every area and really interestingly they also point out in this uh in this uh article that
The uh the no vote had the vast uh the vast amount of wealth behind it it had the vast amount of political support corporations uh you know the the the yes vote was was highly funded the no vote was was basically a cultural uh you know it was basically culturally toxic in a
Lot of ways and yet just like brexit even though they had all the funding and had all the push behind it uh you the wrong side won and this is what has everyone vary Ang absolutely it’s almost been a case of um sort of you know too many too many
Cooks uh you know too smaller kitchen kitchen you know what I mean like it’s uh to many cooks of Sport the broth so to speak to use the analogy and um and also as well I think when you get this inverted pyramid right of all the intelligency all the journalists the
Vast majority of the Pol political Elite corporations CEOs athletes everybody genuflecting and virtue signaling for this cause causes a Revolt to some degree of the little people who just at you know at some point in time um you know whether it’s Britain America Australia get just too fatigued of being the the
Of being have of having the finger wagged in their face and being essentially treated like a scolded child in a primary school because this is the attitude that these Elites have with with uh these topics and we’re dealing with the Rubes you know to use an
American term um and and I think the outcome of of this in Australia was very demonstrative of that Dynamic which um you know and we all know what it’s like you know they always paint the the anti-progress people as being the bigots and the the xenophobes and the you you
Know the this and that that and the other when people actually do have extremely lucid and well reasoned views for not going along with it but of course they’ll never be sort of you know outside of our circles they never really Express as they should be yeah and it’s
Very interesting like you said that this is this is a a problem that almost the global Elite is having simultaneously particularly in the west is they just they really bought into this end of History narrative they really bought into the idea and I see Calhoun already
Uh already ahead of us here but I’ll go so I’ll go ahead and give him a tip of the Hat there but that guided popular sovereignty right we’ve got everything locked down we control the media we control Academia we control the corporations we control the government bureaucracy as you know many people in
In kind of the the neore reactionary sphere would call it the cathedral is behind us we control all these levers of power that manipulate that that generate soft power that that are able to Manu facture consensus and so because we have this complete narrative control we can
Get really lazy we can get really sloppy we can we can we don’t need to give this back and forth anymore we don’t need to uh present both sides but with a little bit of our bent we can just go full in on propaganda we can just assume our
Victories we can put everything in this basket we can get really heavy-handed with the moral uh you know uh ju just uh high-handedness and then when things go wrong they have this Absol abute freak out they have this this complete spur out over like how could you possibly you
Know not vote our way how could you ignorant you know masses uh how how could you not follow our direction we we we know what to do we pull the strings you guys dance that’s that’s the relationship and so uh it’s just interesting that all of these different Western governments seem to like
Simultaneously hit kind of this this period where they overstep their bounds and they get this kind of populous backlash in a very public and embarrassing way yeah I think that’s that’s quite true and I think there’s sort of three prongs to this and one is I dare say
There was and this sort of I thing plays into the fukiyama mindset of you the so-called end of history is it I think progressivism you might say since oh the 2010s I think um I think once for instance you know the idea of say like the LGBT agenda being largely
Accepted you know for them was a a several decade project that eventually came to fruition you know really being carried over the line by the Millennials and I think um you know with the election of say Obama and the idea of you know like the first non-white
President of America I think there’s a few of these um you might say sort of flash points in Western history so to speak where the left actually became greedy where the previous generation spent several decades building towards a crescendo of success you know you got to think like even civil rights you know
Didn’t happen in an incident that took you know a a fair amount of time for them to sort of execute it properly I think ever since the successes of the 2010s have played out um they’ve lost their patience and I think they’ve just assumed every Victory will fall in their lap
Which which I don’t think um you know it politics just doesn’t work that way I don’t think in human nature doesn’t work that way these things aren’t instantaneous cuz you know progress by Def um to use an analogy which was uttered by um a former uh labor party Prime
Minister of Australia Bob Hawk he used the the term the inevitability of gradualness now the inevitability of gradal does not in any way uh suggest you know rapid success or or um or you know uh these things happening um you know one thing after another after another
Quick succession they take time and uh and another thing is uh also um uh there’s another point I wanted to make um pop your actually I’ve actually knocking on my door can I just actually Go mute and you just carry on sorry yeah no problem man we’ll jump into this all
Right so while Furious is taking care of that let’s go ahead and look at this article because this is really the meat of what I wanted to cover in the Stream so we know that they are turning against the population we know that the population did the wrong thing they made
The wrong vote we can give all the lip service to the the sacredness of democracy or whatever but at the end of the day these people have no respect for that the only the only when they say democracy what they mean is the public opinion we manufacture uh the only thing
That’s sacred is the public opinion that we manufacture and you can either conform to that or you can deny it so uh now that it’s been denied uh they are going to find another way to do this and this is kind of where the name of the
Stream comes from they’re just going to privatize popular sovereignty so yeah I mean you guys voted and yes you went through a democratic process but you chose the wrong thing now in some cases like they did in the UK we’ll just go ahead and keep uh you know voting again
And again and again right you’ll just keep voting over and over again until uh you get it right you’re going to be punished it’s going to be punitive uh however in the United States they went another Direction Where obviously they went ahead and uh subverted the Trump
Presidency they lied you know they had this Russian collusion narrative uh the Deep State got involved they cut him off at every turn they made sure that you know even the military didn’t follow his orders in certain areas and so there’s the subversion of the presidency through this ability to have this conspiracy
Between corporations and you know bureaucracy and media and these kind of things and it looks like we’re going to see a similar thing here in Australia now Furious is back and he had already told us that this isn’t just happening in corporations you said this has already been declared also by these
Different state governments who say oh sure you may have voted in a national re referendum but we’re just going to ignore the spirit of that and we’re going to deploy these uh different changes inside each one of these states yeah indeed um sorry I just uh I
Was got tell the conci I put me my in the wrong room so that’s why they’ll trying to knock on my door anyway I’ll I’ll deal with that after the stream um if I could just circle back CU I did have a brain freeze on myanged um what I actually thought of
Was that you know we often speak in our Circles of the idea of um you know bioleninism and I definitely think there’s an aspect to this right that as progressivism continues right and the talents of those who are the spear tip of progressivism become shall I say less
Able less talented you know we may dislike these people but you know people of of the ilk of adoro and marus were sort of actually quite intelligent if in their own way if deranged you know someone like um you know I I despise gadal but gadal had an intellectual
Vigor that 99.9% of the Democrat Party or the labor party could dream of having in that you know you know in their entire party and as the all the revolutionaries have died off the next crop are rather less talented rather less able and aidite and able to prosecute these arguments in the same
Way that their predecessors did so I think there’s that aspect that plays into this as well I wanted to try and match that with the greed thing because I think those two things come hand inand the complacency has happened at the same time as the as the dilapidation of
Talent and the dilapidation of intellectual Vigor right and I think also too there’s an inverse thing where people not necessarily people like us but you might say people that we know who kind just want to just get on with life and Grill and they’re not being left alone to grill they’re being hanged
Through every perceivable Vector of existence is berating them and beating them to a pulp and these backlashes happen as a result of that um but but sorry there sort of no no no that’s uh Ju Just to just to uh because I think you’re right about that so these people
You’re you’re absolutely right to point out there’s this machine right that was manufactured by a far more capable generation uh you know there’s this system of Mind Control more you know not to be true dramatic about it but that’s essentially what it is you have a propaganda machine you have a captured
Bureaucracy you have an academic Network that allows you to basically con consistently manufacture consent and move the population and reliably produce the kind of outcomes you’re looking for but if you’re smart you understand that like there’s a there’s a there’s a back and forth pendulum that needs to at
Least seem like it exists for people to believe in the Democratic process to believe in popular sovereignty and so you know that you can’t relentlessly push all the time which is why I’ve you know explained multiple times that it was a ratchet right like the we you’re constantly advancing in the direction of
The left you might take a break you might stop but you never go entirely back to the right it’s always One Direction but they knew not to twist it too far to the left too quickly they knew to give those periods of rest you know the Reagan Administration those
Kind of things where they could lock in gains uh but they you know they would not as Advance as far radically as they might have under other presidents or other administrations so this is a d a dynamic that the more talented versions of these liberal Elites understood but
Like you’re saying there’s been a breakdown in quality there’s been a breakdown in impulse control they’ve been selecting for you know political loyalty or for race or for other things and not for competency and that’s degraded the type of Elites and they are no longer capable of exercising the the
Type of control you were talking about about and therefore we we end up in these situations where they get really sloppy they get really messy they have no uh they have no patience uh for kind of what happens and that ends up continuously putting us in this
Situation where they where if they had just waited if they had just slowed down it would have been fine but they’re so obsessed with more and more social engineering that their their goals are more and more radical they want to push their power further and further each
Time that there’s just no ability for them to slow down anymore and they’re breaking the the process correct and um and just a small sort of addendum to that point as well is that I think I think the the the fear that the left have of when I say like
The the right I’m talking like in it sort of perennial traditionalistic sense is that these orders can exist for a long time and they can they they are um durable to forces of of atrophy at least to a point and they are resistant to to fractures to a point um whereas I think
When you look at the leftist world viiew the the presuppositions that sort of a derivative of the ideals of the French Revolution right you think about the the the very watch words of the French re Revolution is you know eality Liberty fraternity you know it’s liberty Brotherhood um you know and and
Egalitarianism um those principles basically this allow hierarchy and if you have them have hierarchy you can’t have objective standards if you don’t have objective St standards you can’t cultivate future talent and I think that is also a small part of this problem they have is that like you said they
Sort of bringing these people in based upon Party Loyalty or upon the fierceness of the zealotry not because they’re talented at it and I think you have this um this this fundamental problem within the left is can they Advance the progress fast enough before the machine collapses in their hands
Which I think makes for a very interesting Dynamic to observe Frankly Speaking absolutely let’s go ahead and read just a little bit of this article so we can get a an idea of the framing that the media is using when they talk about how corporations are going to
Subvert the will of the voters and why that’s a good thing uh just before you start or can I just offer a small anecdote on this point um now it it it it doesn’t actually involve the indigenous vote actually it it refers to a previous uh thing here and that’s when
We had the um the we basically had a pite for you know the LGBT marriage you know the changing The Marriage Act here now I have several friends of mine by virtue of being both a country boy and um you know having gone to to the school
In the city I have a lot of my friends who work in in technical Fields you know they’re mechanics and boiler makers and you know that they you know industry type BLS right and number of them most of them married some not who via or sort
Of not as a part of their Union but amongst themselves almost in in contradiction to their unions um opposed these sentiments and actually publicly spoke out about them for instance they will use their their social media you know I don’t believe in this and or I believe marriages between
A man and a woman and you know my kid should have a mother and a father this sort of stuff now a lot of these guys oh not a lot of them but a few of them um somewhere in the order of half a dozen worked for both of our national aircraft
Um companies which are quantis and jet star in in Australia they had HR squeeze them to the point where they were being told remove these posts or lose your job and that was over the previous current thing and this is how they exert pressure on their own Workforce to
Comply now now this obviously reached the you know hit the 11th degree during the cof and has definitely hit even another level again with the indigenous question and this voice proposal but they get they they sort of acre Power Within by drubbing their own um Workforce into compliance and then for
Anyone who interacts with that Corporation whether it’s again VI physical media you know uh you know television radio whatever adverts they’re pulverized by the messaging as well and it becomes just total saturation um and the corporations do with a lot of power in this sense so
Sorry I’ll leave you to go on to that point but I just want to offer that anecdote because it is a multifaceted power structure the corporations possess absolutely I mean if I don’t know if you remember this but you know there were airlines getting shut down because
Airline pilots didn’t want to take the vac and they were doing uh the Wildcat strikes and the left was actually decrying labor because yeah yeah the labor union itself turned on its own members because the pilots were refusing to go to work and and because they
Didn’t want to be forced into uh taking this so uh you know we see that all of these organizations that in theory are supposed to be for the defense of the worker uh actually just comply with power immediately even including the left and and the unions whenever labor
When the actual laborer just doesn’t want to do something that’s a leftist correct correct all right so our our article here real quick top Australian companies that backed constitutional recognition of the indigenous people said that they respected voters rejection of the change but but would now take their own steps to try to
Improve opportunities for the country’s first inhabitants so they don’t respect this change at all uh Australia has overwhelmingly voted down a proposal to create a constitution protected indigenous Parliament advisory body known as The Voice financial support and publicity from big businesses for the refereum failed against a far less
Resource no Campaign which branded corporate endorsement of of the change as elitist and out of touch so interestingly massive Advantage for the yes campaign but hilariously because it was pushed so hard by corporations the no side had an effective counterargument making saying all all these corporations and these elitists are pushing it it
Can’t be good for us without a political solution it’s now up to the companies themselves to pursue the strategies to address entrenched disadvantages in Australia’s 3.8 uh indigenous percentage indigenous population corporate leaders and political researchers said while the country resolves not to to amend our constitution has never been more
Awareness of the significant challenges facing our new indigenous population uh coming from uh uh from one of the uh Kart and Target department store chain owners uh again talking about how we’re going to take this initiative we’re going to pick it up you see this coming from uh many of the different companies
The their their mining companies uh their Airlines uh all talking about how they they you know were let down by the population and they’re still going to go ahead and move forward with this so the idea is basically like you said uh not just the not just these private
Corporations but the government as well we’re going to put all these corporate initiatives into place we’re going to uh deploy all this stuff even if the voters say no and of course that’s a huge part of it here in the United States unfortunately you know there’s already
These really biased these really um you know deeply entrenched legal uh requirements um huge cases like uh Duke power uh and versus Griggs which kind of force uh the kind of this bias deeply into our system already but it wouldn’t be anywhere near as B if the corporations were themselves basically
Pushing a far more radical agenda than what what is even legally required in an attempt to kind of signal their you know their compliance and kind of their their piousness to everyone around them absolutely true and there’s a really interesting Dynamic of play here and
What Jed my memory is that I um is that I watched the lotus e Lotus Eaters episode um just actually today um you know I was in my hotel room and it featured our friend academic agent and he sort of spoke about this sort of private public partnership that’s
Advocated by you know our very good friend the dark lord himself it’s the idea that these Mega corporations with huge profits can do things that even governments could only dream of but I guess where the I guess where the real deal with the Devil comes in the sort of
Holy alliance between his entities is that if the government is sympathetic to these views but the corporations push it given that the although I suppose ostensively the Judiciary is meant to be separate from the government right but if the Judiciary and the government agree with the general policy or the
General attitudes being pushed then who’s going to defend the little workers who Rebel when Corporation presses this from every possible direction right in the end if the unions don’t represent the worker this stuff if the Judiciary and the the lawyers legal fraternity don’t support the workers’s rights they have no means
Of representation if the governments won’t in enforce their own laws regarding the dynamic between worker and Corporation then the little person has no means of self-defense in this regard and all those um all those uh sort of various domains of power can just collude with each other in an endless
Cycle and this is where I think I mean I’m of the opinion that I think we should celebrate wins when we get them because I think demoralization is something we should resist at all costs but this is also where Boomers and uh not just Boomers but um people who
Become overly enthusiastic with success need to have a reality check it is actually this D and this is how you know how asymmetrical the two sides are and if we don’t see it for what it is we condemn ourselves to a very dark future
So I think we need to um be wise but not too pessimistic but we need to be really really keenly aware of where we sit in all this because these are very um you know essentially almost overwhelmingly powerful entities that collude with each other actively and play their frame
Games and have their trick and and their co- allegiances that make the imposition of these uh current year proposals just almost infinitely successful yeah it’s kind of funny you know the way that now that you mentioned that it it it’s great that things are far better and simultaneously far worse
Than I think the average you know kind of opponent of these regimes understands the good news is that these people are really inap and that they’re kind of losing their ability to Mastermind this stuff like said there is this degradation greedy yes incredibly greedy they they want to control everything but
They don’t understand how it works and they they overstep constantly so that’s the good news however in some ways that’s the bad news too because these people are also in charge of everything so that means all your major institutions are wildly inept and corrupt and there’s not really a place
That you can go that like holds power that will fight for you so it’s a terrifying thing because it’s like all the power is is is consolid ated into hands of these institutions that are run by like the most inept corrupt and foolish people that are just going to
Blow things up so the good news is this can’t go on forever because it’s too it’s too deep into the system and the people doing it are too greedy they’re too stupid they they will destroy themselves the bad news is like your civilization is in some ways glued
Together you know make this joke all the time you know academic agent you know would I think would be more comforted if we just had competent malevolent overlords like it’s okay if they’re evil just let them be competently evil you know as but but that’s not the case
Right like can Tony blade just get the the crime rate of London down please like that would be nice right right yeah when you were for people who don’t know when that inside joke when you’re referring to the dark lord you’re talking about Tony Blair but yeah it’s
It’s this it’s it’s this hope that like even if there as long you know it’s the Joker from from The Dark Knight you know as long as there’s a plan you everybody’s fine as long as there’s a plan and so as long as there if even if
It was evil if it was terrible people would go along with it just because it’s a competent plan that that’s what matters but that’s not where we’re at we’re at the incompetent no plan stage of civilization and while that the good news is that means that these people
Will lose it’s it’s scarier because like that means there’s just nobody at the wheel in a lot of ways exactly I think that I think that veneer or that phase of that um competent malevolence was probably embodied by people such as uh such as Bill Clinton in the states I think by
Blair in Britain and I think to some degree um in Australia by you know the the labor governance that we had of the late 80s and late 80s and early 90s and to some degree really just carried over with our sort of Alor government under John Howard that continued in the into
The 2000s is that and I think also People Like Us um you know I mean our broads sphere generally have really come to understand the power of the unit party in that did things really change when Bush got elected after Clinton no not really and then sort of Obama more
Or less carried the same policies thereafter and even here uh um sorry when I say here I mean sorry like in in in Britain here um just because we’re talking about Blair uh we go from Blair to Cameron to this you know and then there’s like four Tory PMS later has
Anything fundamentally changed no the same policies get rolled over so I think um I think we’re starting to actually realize that it’s the the uni part is as much an opponent as trying to interpret as a left right dichotomy it’s actually just a a a Malay of the political structure RIT Lodge and
The sociopolitical structure R Lodge yep and so I think I think the takeaway for a lot of people with this is to understand that while we’re going to still see these these kind of manifestations these revolts of the average voter and the average person against the elites we’ll also continue
To see this attempt at control this attempt at shutting down you know again privatizing the popular sovereignty uh you know pushing it back into the machine and and trying to make the same change a different way but over time that Dynamic is eventually gonna kind of break things down it’s gonna it’s going
To bring things to a head and that’s something that you just need to be prepared for I think I think like I’ve said you know I don’t know the Australian situation domestically but in the United States States I think the key thing is really people understanding that you know regionalism that that you
Know we we have the advantage of federalism we have the advantage of having a good amount of power still vested in many of the apparatuses of the states and localities and there are things that you can do to kind of prepare for this in you know this competency crisis that’s going to be
Incoming uh kind of kind of the the way your feckless Elites are just going to be unable to uh kind of actually effectuate any real change like there there things that you can do that are still meaningful uh but you just should not expect like WID sweeping populist
Change to lock in just because you have some kind of rep referendum Vote or even get a president elected because the forces are raid against them while while deeply incompetent are vast and so that that’s something that’s going to have to punch itself out I think before you see big changes
Come correct correct um I’m con I’m conscientious of the fact with sort of coming up to an hour so I just want to quickly touch on two points because uh our very dear lady shalot is in the chat as always and uh and it’s just a point that you touched on
Uh a little while back now but the idea that it will be the states that Carri the can for this that irrespective of the of the quite um you know emphatic no vote and particularly in some of the states such as Queensland and such as New South Wales and South Australia and
Western Australia where the no vote was quite resounding um you know the the states are going to Wrangle this through their own in their own way and rather than having to either um you know bring in or dispense of a single federal domestic system there will instead be
This entanglement of you know a dozen state-based systems and then who has um you know jurisdiction over who and you know to what end are these changes of recognition then federally recognize and is it on a state-to-state basis like just creates this you know intentional sort of political judicial Quagmire which only
Ever advantages power really if you get if you get what I mean by that and and the second point is I think I mentioned to you about those two Advocates of the no vote uh and those two Aboriginal people that was uh just Enterprise and uh Warren
Manding and this the of two point very brief sub points I want to touch on that and that one is there there always is this kind of idea that people of shall I say of European descent are now extremely fearful of being able to Advocate their own interests as someone of European
Descent that it’s almost as if they have to bequeth that to someone who is an intersectional member because they’re afraid of being called a racist for having their opinion if you get what I mean like it would be refreshing if someone of a European background could actually say I as a
European person someone of desent of say this GRE Roman tradition this Anglo Celtic tradition this Britannic or Germanic tradition that is steeped in centuries and in some regards even Millennia of of an intellectual philosophical you know train of thinking and belief can say that in a full-throated fashion without batting an
Eyelid they can’t do it and that in itself is um is very damning in itself right and very telling of the lack of rigor certainly amongst not so much the mainstream rights thought leaders because they’re sort of not our people anyway but the people who support them
If you get what I mean and secondly as a minor point from that a lot of people in that sphere make the mistake of always and I mean I’m going to say this is the Perpetual traditionalist then and we will touch on that dictator stream at
Some point I I promise you all we will get there I just have to read some books but um this idea that the west and this Assumption of democracy or this Assumption of liberalism are one and the same I mean are the West responsible for creating that interpretation of
Democracy yes is it responsible for creating liberalism yes but are they the same thing no the ocent western civilization has a very extensive history of Imperium has a very extensive uh um history of monarchy of rules of kings and Emperors of systems that are very alien to what we are familiar with
Today in fact what we experience today is a very very tiny aberration in the vast expanse of our civilization which goes back the better part of two and a half 3,000 years and when a politician or a political Advocate says oh in our Western liberal democracy or our Western Civilization based on liberal
Values that is a snake all salesman it’s either a person lying to you willfully or a person who’s too stupid to not know better and I I would pass that message on to people who have not necessarily looked into dissident fears because that is honestly the way we have to view our
Inheritance because it isn’t something that arrived in our doorstep 5 minutes ago it has a very very long history and as many of its facets have proven itself resilient but they’ve just been bastardized by a hostile and we should be cognizant of that fact all right Furious let’s go ahead
And look I think we got one question over here real quick uh Adam e for $5 I think the globalist play is to marginalize National sovereignty by casting intellectual def by casting intellectually deficient leaders Biden fedman here Aborigines there I mean so there’s there’s certainly I think there’s a a really
Simple I think there’s a really simple explanation for some of these which is that these incompetent leaders guys like Biden and Federman who are obviously just kind of blank slates in many ways uh you know literally mentally diminished they are easy to manipulate they’re easy to control if you’re an
Oligarchy you want someone who’s basically formless who you can shape entirely to your will and you can look at that from Biden he takes positions that are entirely different he has none of the positions or not none of the positions but many of his positions are radically different
From ones he held not that long ago just because like that’s the current zit guys and somebody puts it in his prompter and I mean he doesn’t even know where he is so he just spits it back out and obviously you know this is true of many different people incompetent leaders can
Be very valuable because they’re easy to manipulate however this is obviously like a losing strategy long term because like people can feel how terrible Biden is like like even if you’re a leftist you’re looking at Biden and you’re like okay this guy doesn’t inspire me to anything he’s not really leading me to
Anything he’s just you know even I think most leftists understand that in some way he’s a puppet of of kind of the Shadow interests of their party maybe they agree with those Shadow interests but it’s not something that really you know inspires confidence when you start talking about going to war with Russia
Or something and so you know there there is a limitation to the strategy now I I you could say maybe this is a larger globalist play to to make each you know Nation weaker but I think this one’s actually a much easier thing to understand we’ve just transitioned oligarchies distributed oligarchies that
Want weak leaders so they can just kind of impose their will on them absolutely and the other thing is like a placeholder cannot function as a fulum you know a placeholder is exactly that it’s a paper dragon uh and the other thing is the higher up the chain that
Person is I think this is where for existence you can draw a distinction between fetan and Biden is that I mean Fatman’s just s like a functionary in a place whereby he can have papers put in front of him he signs them off Biden does that as well but we have to
Understand the implications of Biden being president is that an entire narrative an entire um should I say like a basket of policies an entire agenda could be made to disappear with him because in the end with a leader goes their views with a leader goes their decisions and it’s a very convenient
Sort of parachute for the Democrat Party and I mean hate to use this analogy but you know the swamp sh I say you know the Washington Quagmire that if and when a time comes to gently nudge you know sleepy Uncle Joe off the stage you know K goes with him Ukraine
Goes with him you know Anam Mossy towards Russia goes with him um you know a lot of this other stuff BLM goes with him a lot of this stuff vanishes with him and that confins current year into yester year and again people who have short memories will will forget that and
Then we’ll bring their attention to the new current thing and on the cycle goes no that’s that’s a great point and this is why I hit this so often with conservatives who are just like the bidens it’s the bidens it’s Biden Joe Biden’s corrupt Joe Biden’s uh you know
Uh has all these terrible bid policies it’s like guys Joe Biden is not in charge and it’s very clear that he’s not the one dictating policy you should be attacking whoever is and if you don’t know who it is you should be asking that question because somewhere behind him
Are the people actually wielding power and like you said once they jettison Joe they can just attach all the most toxic parts of their failed policies to him and then all you’ve done is bind all these ideas to Joe Biden he’s e easily jettison and the people who are really
Responsible the people who are really wielding power who are really making decisions they get to say oh no that was that was all this guy he’s gone new new rulers new new Administration we don’t have yep and they squeaky clean yeah absolutely exactly an excellent Point
All right guys well we’re going to go ahead and wrap this up I want to thank everybody for coming by of course great to have Furious be able to tag in here at the last minute really appreciate you coming on man no no all good uh despite
My uh my jet lagged State and uh evidently having been thrown in the wrong room in my hotel it was a pleasure as always um and of course you know the these discussions are important I I think uh you know every so often I mean in the end I I I completely appreciate
That obviously your base in America and most the audience is American too although we have lady shot with us today which is fantastic but um you know it is important that you know Australians pay attention to what happens in America to some degree it’s important that you know
You guys pay attention to what happens us here and we pay attention of what happens in Britain or continents of Europe because there are all there there’s events and things which take place in a certain way that you know if we observe each other we might actually
Learn lessons that apply to our own situation a little bit better and I think it’ be to our detriment if we didn’t do that so um you know as it always is with our British and American compatriots I think it’s um fantastic we can all Talk Amongst each other and you
Know discuss these more um you know uh how can put obscure events and obscure topics and uh and get to the number of it so thank you for the opportunity or and I I always love coming into your channel it’s a it’s a great honor it’s a
It’s it’s a lot of fun so thank you very much sir absolutely man great having you all right guys if you enjoyed this show of course please go ahead and subscribe if you haven’t subscribed to the channel yet and if you’d like to get these broadcasts as podcast so you can listen
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