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Horizons and steal yourselves for a voyage into the enigmatic heart of the paranoid American podcast where each story every image every Revelation brings us one step closer to The elusive truth Who’s that peeking in the window pal as Joel Thomas yeah so the man probably doesn’t need too much of an introduction but I’m gonna do it anyway this is Joel Thomas uh the man the myth the legend he’s working on a million different projects if you haven’t already checked out some
Of the stuff that we’ve collaborated on links Below in the description go give them a follow go give them a like just smash every button on the screen right now I don’t care what button it is if you’re floating over just smash it so uh Joel Thomas man please uh first of all
Tell people where they can find you and we’re going to get into way more after that yeah so I’m one half of a podcast with my buddy Sean Chris at kill the Mockingbirds podcast so you can go to killer mockingbirds.com you can pretty much find us everywhere there so you can
Find all the music um all of the merchandise we have uh access to any of the socials that we have there too if you’re looking for us on Instagram which is probably our biggest Hub you can find us there kill the Mockingbirds podcast uh you can find
Me at Van Tesla music so I do music so to Sean and we do a lot of it so we put it out uh it’s not just in conjunction with the podcast I was a musician long before I was a podcaster so podcasting thing was just like it happened it
Wasn’t really a planned thing at all I just ended up connecting with some people uh who were pretty big in the game and it just naturally happened you know I on the off chance had met Tony Merkel from the confessionals podcast and he’s got a huge podcast and it was
Really just through a producer of mine producer mine listened to his podcast sent him over my first fan Tesla album Tony will tell it better than me but he was taking a [ __ ] and he was like ah who’s this sending me some stuff he’s like you know he’s like I get music a
Lot he’s like we all do and he’s like you know I just figured it was going to be trash and that’s what he said and he said he listened to it and he was like I gotta get down in studio list the rest of this and then he contacted me
He was like man this is really good stuff he’s like I haven’t and this is I mean we’re talking right Darren this is the album this is the album someone could look up right now and find yes they can you can find spotify’s title Apple music anywhere any streaming
Service possible it’s called band Tesla it’s the very first project that started this wave of what I’m doing now and uh the guy I was working with at the time Quan Duke we started fan Tesla together which Van Tassel has now morphed into more of a brand now than anything more
Of a label that I’m looking to build as I go but uh we started this really just because of what was going on in 2020 you know it was a lot of craziness going on and we were everybody was questioning things and I think that’s where it
Spawned from and you know Tony’s very like-minded and so he reached out to me and said hey do you care if I start using something music and then he invited me to come to Philly and come in studio and talk about some of my past and you know what my goals were
Originally with music and Junction with being a Freemason and some of those type of things wait wait wait wait wait what what yeah so you have two Freemasons on the show today guys don’t you go to this close though man yeah I uh yeah I you know I I do dance
Around some things um you know I don’t go into everything but I’ve stepped away from the lodge and all that a long time ago and you know I came on the show to just talk to him about you know where my mind frame was when I was going through a lot of that
In music and where I wanted to be ultimately and then I just you know over the years things happened I changed and then 2020 was a big pivotal point for me not that I hadn’t always been a critical thinker and I was a huge conspiracy guy
Forever but it was just 20 I think 2020 was that pivotal moment where I was like you’re gonna make that decision and then not succumb so I I think that’s for me it was through music and you know I met Tony and he and I got really really good
Friends and on the off chance he hits me up he was starting these uh documentary projects and he said Hey how do you feel about Bigfoot and Dogman and all the stuff I was like brother I grew up in the North Georgia Mountains and I like as a kid so
This is nothing new to me I mean I it was nothing for me to walk out the front door and see a bear like walking across the front yard and you know I grew up around that stuff so I was like man I’m you know I’m down and he said well I
Mean do you have any uh artillery and I was like listen man I’m not talking about deep State as much as I am without something so I was like yeah I’ve got plenty of that so we did our first documentary uh operation dog man or Expedition dog man sorry and it’s on uh
Amazon Prime Apple TV right now all the big ones it’s done really well it kind of catapulted Miracle media into what it’s become now with having an actual uh media guy that runs the company now and tons of projects responding out of it which we just finished the uh Skinwalker
Film which it’s about to hit Apple TV and Amazon Prime and all that and it was really awesome man we were out there at Skinwalker Ranch like right next to it we’re in the ranch right beside it so crazy stuff just I mean dude there’s a
Moment where I looked up in the sky for an hour and a half we saw 25 UFOs going crazy in the sky um that whole trip was like that every trip we’ve been on knows something crazy has happened uh we went out to Washington with West garmer from Sasquatch Chronicles hunting down
Bigfoot and we had some wild things happen there too which I can’t really talk about on air but I’ll tell you off air but uh yeah some wild stuff happened there and yeah everything’s just kind of snowballed I met Sean through music and he I happened to become on his podcast a
Couple times just to talk music and just some of the weird stuff going on the world and and he and I got really cool and just he was like look man I’ve been looking for a a steady you know co-host which he couldn’t find and like you want
To go study with me or what let’s do this daddy yeah old school like the note you like the little check boxes you click the yes yeah yeah it’s a little hard on it and uh it was it was just good man we work really well together we bounce off
Each other really well uh he’s really good with geopolitical stuff I’m a little more of the occult and biblical realm but I do get really yeah go figure you Freemason right uh and I but I do get into the geopolitical stuff that’s how he and I
Got really cool so I I think his and I Viewpoint is very different than a lot of people in this realm you think a lot like us but a lot of people in this realm are very boxed in in the Echo Chambers they don’t look at how
Everything could kind of tie in together how like Cryptids could be tying into this geopolitical thing over here and all these different threads it’s it’s all connected um we just a lot of times don’t choose to see it or again you get people in Echo chambers that just want to think
One thing and if you start thinking outside of that then you’re the psyop you’re the guy that’s trying to get everyone away from the actual truth just because you’re questioning things which I I find funny uh I think the truth or Community is one of the most toxic
Communities I think on the planet I used to think it was the woke left I I don’t think so anymore not as long as I’ve been in the truth or Community I think they’re just as bad truth is such an absolute so when right if someone is really convinced that they have the
Truth like like there’s and there’s no room for any subjective opinion uh I’ve got the objective truth right now it’s really hard to get through to that and it also comes from a sort of point of view where you’ve already given up control right like right and I guess
It’s one of those things like a classic debate if uh if you’re not going in for like a traditional competitive debate but if you actually want to debate just a normal person the first thing you want to establish is are you willing to change your mind on the topic we’re
About to talk about because if the answer is no there’s really no reason to even have the conversation unless you got an audience that can be swayed as well but chances are no so I mean it’s it’s an interesting it’s an interesting thing man no I completely agree with you
Thomas you know I uh I’m all over the place with stuff I read like I really am I I read a spectrum of different ideas different things uh you know I tell uh I was talking to Juan the other day on the phone and I’m like look man you know I
Read a lot of things that I don’t necessarily agree with like on purpose like I I go into these ideas it’s gonna do one or two things it’s gonna change my mind and where I’m seeing this like oh man maybe there’s some truth to this or it’s just going to solidify what I
Already think is true because I’m actually doing the research and looking into it I think that’s what’s tough for people is to actually push yourself into other spectrums of reading or or research to try to push your mind to try to push yourself out of the just normal
Scope of comfortability I think people like to be comfortable and it’s normal it’s a normal human trait and I think it’s it’s work that you have to do to evolve your mind and involve yourself and you can hold true to some core beliefs there’s nothing wrong with that
But it doesn’t mean that those can’t even change over time as you see more and you’re opening yourself up to more and and you know just the deeper research that you go so I I think that’s important and I try to surround myself with people like that at least on The
Daily regular right like I’m very open to talking to anybody but if I’m going to you know involve you in some form or fashion my life I you can’t be in an echo chamber for me it’s gonna be tough having a conversation with you where I’m willing to question
A broad stroke you know scope of things but you’re just gonna be here like in this little little thing and it’s tough especially with politics man people get really tribalistic over politics and and to me you know politics is just a big game and it’s to me it’s easy to see but
I think I’ve always felt that way so I think it’s not difficult for me to see how people are being manipulated by their emotions and generally speaking when you’re looking at people in power they do manipulate you by your emotions like it’s if you get angry or if you get
Sad or if you’re depressed they find a way to feed on those emotions and manipulate them sometimes you don’t even realize that you’re being manipulated it can happen to any of us like it’s I’m not you know saying that just because I’m open-minded and I read a lot doesn’t
Mean that I can’t be subject to the same things that everybody else can I just hope that I’m introspective enough so when it does happen maybe in a day or two I’m realizing like wait like I’m probably being manipulated here I need to snap out of it if it takes a day
Though it might be too late man it’s like a ride only takes about nine years it’s true it’s true it’s very true man yeah I I just look at the humanity like the human aspect of us man we can all like fail and fall so I got a question
Right off the on that on that topic do you think that it’s it’s people manipulating crowds because they’re appealing to emotion or do you think that there’s a chance that a crowd had like you have to communicate to a crowd through emotion and through superficial means like can a crowd even process
Logic the same way that a human can and it’s a good question because you could look at it in the aspect of ye agent provocators right you send them into a crowd maybe five maybe they start throwing rocks and then almost just hedonistically they’re just picking up
Rocks and throwing them too they’re not thinking so I I think that yeah it’s almost like uh a network at that point you’re almost like a hive mind at that point so I don’t know if you necessarily are and I don’t know what kind of end of these are also involved when you’re
Getting in oh man so if you’re gonna talk about entities let’s talk about Nephilim portal babies right now so can you break down what a Nephilim portal baby is yeah so I’ll set the the backdrop for how this even came to be and then we’ll get into you know did you
Create Nephilim portal babies yeah so the terms I mean yeah that’s crazy so yeah so uh it all started with a I was I was doing a lot of research on you know just everything man the Brotherhood of the snake Sumerian lore and I was tying in Nephilim into a lot
Of these old cultures and I had been talking to it with Tony here and there I was like I’m going some deep Dives I’ve got this new concept and what I think that’s going on here because you know if people talk about before the Deluge what happened to the
Nephilim because they they come back inevitably come back you see them popping back up in the Bible and other extracurricular attacks they’re back so you know there’s there’s several different ways you can look at it one people some some camps think that it was an incursion done by Fallen Angels after
The Deluge similar to what happened before so I want to Mount Hermon the first time 200 Angels had sex with human females and created these Nephilim and it went insane to the point that the world needed to be reset so coming out of the flood you’ve got Noah and his
Family within the Nephilim reappear again so there’s one Camp of people that think that these ain’t these Fallen entities the ones that were left because the original ones were thrown into the pit uh but and Uriel was guarded them in the pit that’s according to the Book of
Enoch but if you go to if you go to after the Deluge uh the theory is that other the Fallen that weren’t thrown in the pit had sex with more females and created these Nephilim possibility I’m not saying it’s not it could be like again I’m never sold on
Anything I like theories I like ideas I like to have multiple Concepts because none of us know as soon as people start saying they know for a fact something then you’ve already lost I I just can’t especially with stuff like this you can’t say you know like if you didn’t
See it there’s no outside of like scripture and and text and all that and even some of that stuff could be manipulated we don’t know so at the end of the day that’s one Camp then you got another camp who thinks that some of Noah’s family carried the gene the Genome of these
Nephilim like a giant Gene right like a giant Gene that resurfaced after you know they started you know reproducing again that’s that’s the that’s one of the other camps of thought now there’s another Camp which I fall into a little more than the other ones that there are
Portaling systems that could get these Nephilim off-world either inside the earth which I do think that’s a major possibility or interdimensionally which I really lend to the fact because I believe that the Nephilim were some of the first Alchemists if you look at uh Kane’s line Kane and his son Enoch let’s
Not get confused because there’s like an evil Enoch and then there’s an Enoch that walked with God so there’s two lines there’s the Seth line and then there’s the cane line um from Adam so that’s kind of how those two lines work now Kane and his son
Enoch with these Fallen ones who created this Brotherhood of the snake which is said to be the first um the first secret society which a lot of the tenants of Freemasonry came from as a matter of fact if you look at some of the old Freemason texts the Anderson
Text and the Oliver text they actually talk about how that it wasn’t the atoms line which the Freemasons talk about now was actually Kane’s line that they that they come from that everything comes down that line that the sons of lamech were actually the pillars not the
Pillars that they tell you they are now so that’s just me digging and going through this uh some really good books I’ve read and I actually went and read the Oliver and Anderson Legends too as well you can get them you’d find them online like PDF files of them you can go
Read them uh they’re Fair they’re very interesting they’re all attacks um but this Brotherhood snake came from that and from Kane’s line come these Nephilim it was like the the seventh generation is when these Fallen ones had sex with these females and they create created uh these Nephilim which started
Diluting all of the Bloodlines this was the goal of the Fallen ones and Lucifer to some extent they wanted to corrupt the bloodline of Adam which was the Holy bloodline that Yeshua or Jesus was going to come from so if they could stop that that pure bloodline from happening like
The actual like a human bloodline from happening then they win right so that’s the whole point that’s why when in the Bible it says that Noah was perfect in God’s sight it wasn’t perfect like holy his genes were perfect like that was the whole point so but even to say that
What’s even funnier if you want to talk about like forgiveness and stuff like that like even in the Book of Giants which is the Dead Sea Scrolls uh the uh the Giants were having dreams about uh death of a deluge so they’re freaking out so they
Try to go to like their fallen angel fathers and they’re not having they won’t listen to them and uh Gilgamesh is actually one of these Giants that’s having these dreams they end up getting going to Enoch and Enoch actually comes and tells them that if they turn from
Their evil ways then they can be okay so even forgiveness was offered to the Giants that’s a piece that a lot of people roll over because they don’t know about the uh The Book of Giants even though it’s a fragmented text that was found um in the Dead Sea Scrolls it’s very
Interesting I’ve read through it too A lot of people attribute it to the Book of Enoch and sometimes you’ll actually find the book of giants in The Book of Enoch if you buy it or you read it online or whatever else so yeah these these Giants these Nephilim are deluding
His bloodline so the luge comes and wipe away the ones that you think but they reappear again now after the delusion of the Bible they go by a ton of different names you got the Raphine the amorites you’ve got so many different names and they even talk about the amorites were
Uh as tall and as thick as The Cedars so you get a lot of these different names for Giants but they’re more of a deluded bloodline so in my opinion because these Giants weren’t as big as these like first Neville on these you know you hear about these first Nephilim how tall they
Could have been in the 30 to 40 foot range and they’re like two to one as far as you know height to width human beings are more like three to one as far as height to width so how big were the the Watchers or the Angels is that recorded
They’re shapeshifters so they could have been anything you know what I mean I think that that’s where you’re getting a lot of these Gods throughout history are a lot of these Fallen ones are projecting into whatever God that you want to worship so they project themselves into these gods and they
Become these Gods so you’ve got fallen angels that can shape-shift by the way they weren’t just shape-shifting into men they could shape-shift into women too it’s yeah that’s a piece that’s always lost it’s awesome they shape-shift into non-binary I think I think so I think they could do whatever
They wanted for sure so yeah who knows man I mean that I don’t know like there’s no text that prove that but uh in this day and age I mean why why not right why not blue hair too like it makes do you think that’s it it possibly
Is still happening or you think that was like a different magical time when like different types of magic was possible or do you think that it’s like all still possible right now like Angel could come down here and bang your trick so I think and this is going to lead into what I
Think the Nephilim portal babies are so this uh that concept I don’t think happens the way it used to because I think that the first grouping uh were tossed into the pit so they’re locked in this pit until you know the Book of Revelation said they’re released
So they’re locked in this pit so these other Fallen Angels don’t want to commit this same act because then they can’t do what they want to do on Earth so there’s some thirsty Angels up there that are just like damn bro it didn’t work out good for homies last time exactly so
They’re not feeling it so they’re going to try to find a loophole so in my opinion so Roswell happened in 1947 so when Roswell happened and you had this incident with the Grays and everybody’s read bill Cooper’s work and a lot of other people have talked about what’s happened uh
Ed Roswell so you know you had several beings Grays that were bodies when they pulled up on them several were dead one two were alive one was kind of half alive this one ended up dying after a few days well they had one locked away for like a year this this
And they kept interrogating this gray and finally after a year this gray just decides like almost start talking English now and being like look like I’m kind of tired of being here let me talk to who I need to talk to uh started snatching start snitching and I
Think it was more not so much snitching but so much of a uh it was a it was a deception I think it was a deception by these Fallen ones I think that here’s what I think about governments I don’t think government’s sort of that
Damn smart I think that there’s a lot of hidden layers to governments but when it comes to like well who we would consider the elites like the the in the know the adepts you know what I mean like these high level Alchemist there’s not a lot of them like they’re they’re very hidden
They manipulate everybody else so I think that those guys probably knew what these Grays were probably knew what these Fallen ones were but to the governments they would consider them extraterrestrial which they’re not wrong I think if you were to see an angel right now that’s considered extraterrestrial it’s not of this Earth
So I think people get some of these words confused too like alien well that would be the same thing as a angel if you saw one because it’s not of this Earth it’s alien of this Earth so I you know it’s like a UFO it’s an unidentified flying object that could be
An object that is known to us but we saw it in the sky and we didn’t know what it was it’s UFO people attribute it to spaceships people attribute it to band Fantastical things it’s not always that and to some degree some of these UFOs could actually be things that
Governments create too so back to Roswell is alien the hook they they end up on some uh Caribbean island and they all meet there so they got a high level uh got uh a high level Cardinal in the Catholic Church obviously it’s you can’t do anything without those guys there you
Have the Catholics there we got the library right they’re like oh yeah let me go and dig out the last time this happened no one else yeah for sure for sure so they got him they got several other uh uh high-level people in different governments and these aliens
Broker deal is this with Justin 12 or is this Majestic 12 so it’s part of the Majestic 12 lore and they broker this deal to where they’re gonna take so many humans and do testing and bring them back but they’re gonna let us know and they give us things you know like
Technology which we did have a huge technology Spike from the 1945 and on like it’s insane transistor mosfet a few things absolutely but you could even attribute that to around the same time you had World War II going on you had the real society and the real
And all that technology that the Nazis had on that end too so all this was happening coordinated all over the Earth with different sects of these aliens or you know like the real they’re from underneath the Earth but said to have Angelic features which I thought that
Was pretty funny when I was digging into some of them uh and this real power that’s what you know they’re called the thriller or like the Fallen Angel Watchers yeah I think so or maybe some version of Nephilim I mean they are underground and they’re tall they
Generally look like tall whites or the tall white versions um kind of like uh Admiral Byrd when he went uh or according to the story he he went inside the earth and met with these tall whites and they had swastikas on their uh on their ships so that was part
Of the whole drill and they said that you know man was going to destroy you know each other with nuclear technology they’ve been trying to get through to us but they also had the same uh exact features and very similar in look to this Brill Society so I think that
They’re kind of all connected if we’re looking at Fallen ones and how they could shape-shift like why wouldn’t they shapeshift into different things to trick us but I don’t necessarily think that Grays are exactly that now I do think fallen angels can from time to time shape shift into Grays like why
Wouldn’t they they’ll shape-shift into whatever is like you know convenient at the time this is like Zeus right I’m gonna go bang a swan today absolutely and I think I think and I’ll go deep with like a lot of these uh like Greek mythology and Sumerian and all
That I think a lot of these Gods existed uh whether in the form of an actual God or they were following ones I think they did I mean because we could even talk about the uh the Council of the Gods which is even talked about in the Bible
So if we’re even talking about biblical uh perspective um that’s true from that perspective so I got a Biblical question for you because it’s a niche one so have you ever heard about um the curse of ham I think it was they’re like how ham walked in on Noah
Right yes what’s going on there bro what’s your opinion like what what actually happened okay so the thought is that it’s okay he bangs the he walks in on Noah drunk is drunk that he did molest Noah is what some people say not in a
Fun way either like a rough like a rough no he was ostracized because of it and some people think book from him this is where these nephilims started reappearing again that’s where some people get this incursion part from where this is a second incursion that it happened when ham was kicked out
I don’t know uh I don’t know because even in the Hebrew it’s not clear exactly what kind of you know debauchery that went on with Noah it could have been just as easily as him walking in seeing him naked and making fun of him I’ve heard it he is
Like I’ve heard it feels man your whole family is gonna die where he was like yo how come your dick’s so tiny Noah and then it was just downhill from there right it could be but then again like I probably lend more to he probably did something to know that’s what I
Personally think that it seems like a pretty big deal that ham was like kicked out and I mean this is After the flood there’s not a lot of them you know he’s like you’re done out of here so I I don’t know I yeah that’s my thoughts on it and
There’s so many different theories of what could have actually happened that’s actually one of the most controversial ones that he that he bangs Noah the another one that I heard that I kind of like to entertain I haven’t heard much on it is that he saw Noah performing
Magic or that he saw like Noah tapping into some next you know next level realm or something and that wasn’t something that he was allowed to see because the the quote is really hard I mean I don’t have the the ancient Hebrew in front of me or the Greek whatever it was
Translated from but it was like he walks into a tent and sees Noah naked um but the naked might be like performing some kind of right very base level magic I don’t know man it’s it’s an interesting one for me but apparently it really pissed Noah off whatever
Happened it pissed Noah off and he’d you know he didn’t get to get on the boat next time I you know and I like that concept too that he was doing something in there that Pam was allowed to see so one of the two one of the two things happened
In my opinion I don’t think it was just either bag Noah or he got to see a magic trick it was one of those two things it’s kind of creepy it had to be something pretty Next Level right in my opinion it did I’m kind of with you for
Him to get ostracized like that so uh well we’re talking about biblical uh being ostracized biblically you heard have you read the book of Judas before I have it’s been a long time so the general premise is that Judas wasn’t the traitor and that he knew that
He had that role to play and that he was going to be the most hated man ever because of this role but that he had to do it because if he didn’t do it then Jesus doesn’t die and therefore doesn’t die for the so it’s like he had to play that role
Um which is which is fairly heretical still right it’s not like book of Judas made it through the night Council of nicaea like it is definitely Jesus had a talk with him about it in the book like there’s a tough time where he and Jesus have the conversation
Um if I’m correct where Jesus tells him that that he has to do this for him to be able to die and again it’s it is pretty heretical um it’s not in a Canon but you know a lot of people dispute the Canon too so there’s you know there’s a lot there’s a
Lot of things that go on with Biblical uh with with with the Bible itself now I what I try to do um I do have you know two super you can see him back here two super thick Hebrew dictionaries that I translate a lot of uh verses from and um in the New
Testament though the koi and Greek is is your is your first writings of the New Testament so I try to go and look at things in Greek and in uh Hebrew because you tend to find a little bit deeper meanings in a lot of these verses and
You kind of find you know because the Hebrews a lot of the translations could be uh so different when they come to English even in the many different English translations that spawn off so there’s certain words uh that get taken away um you know there’s there’s a verse uh
In the Bible where it talks about that the that birds flew um from the from the earth and this is before Adam but flew from the earth well one there’s creatures here so there had to be something before Adam which I I do I’ve done some extensive stuff on like
Pre-atomite man and going into Old Earth and billions of years and all that which I I kind of adhere to but when you look at this verse uh it says that these birds flew up but when you translate into the Hebrew it wasn’t birds that was flying creatures so we don’t know what
These creatures really were but because the guys that were translating it didn’t know what the word was they just like well it had to be birds so they wrote down birds so you see a lot of those type of things especially when you’re translating from Hebrew so that’s why I
Do like to go to um the Hebrew text because I think they’re they’re way more mystical when you go to the Hebrew than when you’re just sticking to like the KJV or whatever else that you’re reading um in mind what do you think about KJV the guy that also believed in werewolves and
And demonology I mean why Whitney though I mean I believe in those things so I mean does that give it more credit does that mean the KJV yeah I think so I mean here’s the thing I think about the KJV um and again this is just belief systems
And I know I know everybody’s got their own belief systems I I’ve been I’ve run the Gambit on belief systems throughout my life and I’ve kind of yeah were you saying this to one point pretty close yeah I’d say I was definitely uh working my way there that
Direction for sure did that coincide with your Stenton Freemasonry absolutely really was was that like in the open were there other satanic Masons that you knew not like that man it no in my in my Lodge and I’ll say this all the guys that were great you know
They looked out for me you have to say that just FYI you know every Mason always has to say that so it doesn’t mean anything um bro you don’t want to get you want to get but uh you know those guys were great and and we I
And okay so when I went in I went in for a certain purpose the path was there I could have gone on that path um for sure you know mine was built on a few things money power because I wanted I wanted to become a high level musician and in my
Opinion like there had to be some sort of selling the soul or some sort of something that I need to connect to to get to that level of Fame and power because that’s all you see those guys doing right and especially how far would you have gone if someone was like yo
Stop go stop that random person right now and and you’ll be a you know you’ll be in top 40 next week I don’t want to say on air but okay yes yeah I I I was in a I was in a pretty dark place and
You know and I’ve you know I did this this was the first thing I ever talked about with Tony Merkel like on air and then when when on his members only I got a lot deeper about some of this stuff but you know I was definitely contacting entities and going through the whole
Whole thing this is a family show by the way we Air at 7 A.M in elementary school so you be careful so you know that was my goal like I wanted to become Freemason to uh and I had to pass into Scottish right all that sneaky little bastards so when
They come and did the little investigation and they were like whoa what what makes you interested in being a Freemason you were like yo I just want to I just wanna like kill people and do blood sacrifices and get famous and they were like step in get in line step in
Yeah no nothing like that I was very uh cordial uh matter of fact uh my whole path in was a little different um than some people’s path especially in the South because that was a uh a Prince Hall Affiliated Freemason so I was actually the first white guy there the
Lodge had been around for over 100 years I was the first white guy ever walk through those doors and become free did you have to pass any special like it was it was rough I was it was just like Freestyle or anything because it’s Prince Hall yeah it I’ll say this the
Reason why I went like my buddy my best friend at the time was black and we got shunned out of the White Lodge um because of that even though they invited us in the uh they basically had a conversation with us after because they they did a whole
Like breaking bread thing you know uh right before like an hour before they actually have uh lodge meeting so they did like a you know little dinner or whatever and they invited us there but then afterwards they cut a couple of them kind of close to the side said look
It was up to us we didn’t have a problem with it but the old school guys are still here and they’re not feeling it and some of these guys are like 75 old white guys like they’re not feeling that at all so we left and no no just to be
Clear not feeling you and your friend mostly because your friend was black or black yeah they would have left did you have to okay if you went solo they would have been like yo step right in white bread absolutely yeah I think honestly the uh they reached out to me after that
So it wasn’t that I was totally shunned from this like whole thing come back don’t bring your friend right yeah it they didn’t have that it was more like you know hey we just wanted to say if it wasn’t for damn so in a roundabout way which sounds very
Open and honest with him too because I I think it was over text and I showed him and I was like yeah I’m for sure not doing this um so I ended up uh running like it was probably seven months later it was a mission of mine I was like I’m gonna
Become a Freemason like it was like a mission like I had were you gonna where are you now you’re gonna like infiltrate at that point or like at any point where you’re like I’m seeking further you know like in knowledge and or was it just like you know I’m gonna get I’m Gonna
Get Rich well let’s let me preface it though the knowledge was more important to me than anything so like for me it was like can let me get to these upper levels of understanding let me get past that where they say the Cap’s at I know there’s a
Place where they say that oh so you got to level 74 too yeah I’ll edit that out hold on hold on timestamp yeah so the the 33 is the definitely the highest level 33 is the highest yeah that definitely stops yeah that’s it so I was at the time I was waiting tables
And this group of people came in it’s like a bachelorette party or something man it was this is an odd story to me to get to be a Freemason but it’s a bachelorette party I was waiting on they’re super nice they’re joking around with me the whole time uh they’re
All black females and this guy walks in and pretty big dude uh you know definitely African-American came walking in but he’s got this like big wooden like crafted you know Square Encompass like around his neck and it’s like a big like it’s not like a chain is this a strip club or
A bar or where is it oh it’s just yeah so it was at a uh it was like a sports bar that I worked at so oh you’re working yeah I’m working there yeah so he comes in he’s got this channel so he sits down he’s really nice and he’s like
Yeah I got the whole tab so he’s like he pays for the whole thing for all I think he’s dating one of the girls there but you know it was all their things so he takes care of it and then uh they get up to leaving his last one so I kind of
Like tapped him on the shoulder and uh said what I needed to say to him so he would get his attention and he kind of cocked his head and he said uh okay he’s like uh let me give you my number he’s like call me at this time on
This day it was a week from then it was like a specific time I needed to call him 3 33 P.M it was actually I think it was like two o’clock in the afternoon but yeah whatever you can yeah well I know what time it really was so I call him and he
Picks right up and we get he asked me why I want to be so I told him I was like listen you know these are you know I’m very interested and you know I don’t know I gave him the company line it wasn’t the real reason of like what I
What my plans were like secretively like where I wanted to go with it and you don’t know who’s involved or who’s what because I think people get really uh people on the outside don’t really know how it goes on in there either they think it’s like it’s like everybody’s in
There running around like a cabal like doing this crazy stuff and it’s like no like the majority of the guys there are just like in a lodge like it’s just a fraternity like they don’t really know about some of these other things but you will run into some of the guys there
That are 33 or 33 32s and they just got a different air about them I know a couple guys that were 33s and they were kind of like hey you know we can get you to 33 because you have to be a sponsored to be a 33rd like you have to get
Sponsored for that and they’re like don’t worry about it just get 32 and then we’ll sponsor you to DC to get it done or whatever so I knew there were some older guys there that could help but I called a guy and we have a conversation I tell him about the
Situation at the White Lodge him being a black man he kind of looked it out as a pretty big deal so he obviously you know goes to the lodge with the information he tells me call him again a week later same time same day call him again we
Have a conversation uh so then he’s like hey you and your buddy can go meet the worshipful master at his house so we had to go meet him this is where we even got to the lodge and had any kind of meeting with the rest of them we had to go meet
Him yeah well you got to do the shipping container fight too to the death before you get to the lodge Fight Club man you got to do that part two so I you know I meet with him he he tells us you know yeah expectations and all that negative
Background check you know they got police officers in there so they’re going to do a background check on you and all that stuff and then we uh go in and it’s us and two other guys that are trying to get in and you know they I’ll
Say this about this Lodge so it was one of the toughest lodges to get into a Middle Georgia they put you through a lot they didn’t want you to make it so they did everything they could to make you not make it um so they did a lot it was a lot of
Like strenuous physical stuff there was a lot of like just craziness honestly it’s it it’s like if you were to think about those crazy fraternities that you’d try to get in in college like where they would do everything to make yeah yeah or like those old school uh
Masonic catalogs where it’s just like this was physical torture devices and like like penicillin the donkey this was next level like this was that so like all like I won’t even go into anything on air at all but yeah it’s killed man yeah man I mean it was rough and uh but
You also you got through it man you had a lot of respect from a lot of the other lodges that they heard you were in that Lodge crazy you know what I mean like whatever so and I was a white guy going through this like Lodge with no white guys ever
Gone through it was kind of a big deal uh yeah at least you know for me it was you know and these guys respected me because you know I went in and you know I learned everything really quickly like I had a really quick mind and I learned
A lot of stuff pretty quick but through and through that whole thing I was the only one that made it so even like my best friend didn’t make it so that definitely caused some you know some stuff down the road with he and I and you know it’s it’s just
Part of life but that’s kind of what happened I ended up making it but I will say there were some things that happened in my personal life with my kids and and just with me losing my job and just I was at a very low low point of my life
And I had to make a decision like am I going to keep going down this path lose my kids lose everything because that’s the plan right you lose all that the game all this all these Treasures on Earth and all these things and I and I think I
Came to those Crossroads where it was like what decision am I going to make and I think a lot of the values and stuff were instilled in me from my family and all that who I respect a lot I think those kicked in at some point
Where I was like you know I don’t want to do this anymore like I feel like I’m going down I knew I mean I was talking to entities and just pure craziness so like for me it’s like you know I can keep doing this I will
Probably achieve what I want at least on the knowledge end or get to some level of fame or whatever maybe it’s not music who knows what this path is taking me to it’s going to take me to the end game of fame or whatever it is I don’t know
Exactly what it is but I might have to sell a lot I think when people hear selling your soul they think it’s like you’re in a blood contract or whatever which I think those exist probably but I think some of it’s really just selling yourself away like you’re basically I
Mean I think it’s easy bro if I could just like give a little blood and sign a contract and then like Coast for Life instead of what working for 50 years right uh and like putting all my passion aside I don’t know yeah and and again I
Understand why people do it and I think for me uh I just didn’t man and I ended up going down a different path and over the years and I’m saying I just like changed right away but it was over a period of years where I got to a point
Where I started just caring more about other people than just myself and I think that was more important to me and that’s why I do what I do now is I’m hoping to connect with people uh you know sometimes on a visceral level about what’s going on in the world you know to
Wake people up to the truth that’s out there and also let them know that it’s not like we’re all gonna die it’s not all doom and gloom let’s enjoy life some you know what I mean like we don’t have to live in misery either I think that’s that that weird juxtaposition that we
Find ourselves in this whatever truth or space or conspiracy space or whatever um you know there should be a point to where you know we actually enjoy life and enjoy others and you know some of this I just look at is a lot of fun man
I love research so like a lot of us is fun for me it doesn’t necessarily like I you know people get really angry sometimes when we put out stuff online or whatever but I’m not like adhering to it being like the truth I’m just saying
This is a this is a theory that’s out there this is crazy though so but people aren’t very you know they don’t use their cognitive Minds like that to be able to see like oh this guy’s just putting out something that’s a possibility it’s not necessarily true
And I think that once we open our mind up to all these different possibilities um then we can start kind of getting to the truth because then we can see how oh man this is kind of tying in this over here this is tied in this over here so
Do you uh are you still in good standing with your Lodge like do you pay your annual dues and everything no so I’m I stepped away like years ago so yeah are you willing to to violate your oath right now on air let’s do it manager uh
But I’m but I’m curious if there’s anything unique about Prince Hall that you found interesting like obviously not with like the ritual in particular but for example my experience with Freemasonry in the south is is probably the one that didn’t let you guys in right so it was like lots of old white
Dudes lots of mashed potato dinners and like you know presentations on health stuff and reading about who needed you know help with whatever it was definitely not like there wasn’t a b-ball game there wasn’t like nothing like we definitely weren’t going to sports bars in fact I was kind of told
That if you wanted if you want to be a drinking Mason that’s when you join the Shriners or you join the jesters or or whatever and that’s where you go down like the the crazy part right like the Animal House version of Masons but is there anything like like really
Different yeah mine was more like animal house so like it’s definitely like we used to have uh we used to watch like you know uh boxing fights in the lodge and you know drink what what drink in the lodge oh yeah so wow that’s mind-blowing yeah so it’s just a different atmosphere
Um now obviously not on you know Lodge days or meeting days or anything like that but like if it was on the weekend because we used to open the lodge four people like so the way you get drunk on the baby blood anyway so you don’t need alcohol
So what we used to do the lodge was in a it was actually in what you would consider the projects like it was kind of like in the middle of it so there was a park across the street from it but the reason why it was located in that area
Was because we used to do a lot for the community so we used to do a lot for kids you know before they went to school we have all these book bags and school supplies because a lot of these kids didn’t have you know fathers did you
Chip kids remember the did you did you have any of those programs and by your Lodge the the Masonic trip program you know what I’m talking about right yeah that’s no no if they were doing it they weren’t doing it in front of me so they were probably like he ain’t ready for
That um we used to you know Thanksgiving turkeys like all the stuff give away tons of stuff for free throughout the whole year it was a lot of that going on um we used to have these big you know Park uh picnics and just cookouts and everything else man so yeah it was
Probably vastly different than what you went through now I will say this uh my buddy back home he’s in a mainstream Lodge and George has kind of changed now because now they’re starting to merge The Lodges so he said that they’re doing uh more stuff with the prince off Freemasons now
Um he said it was crazy they had some mainstream guys in and he’s like now walking in there was like Asian dudes and black dudes and all kind of stuff in the lodge and he’s like with all these old white dudes he said it’s funny because these old white dudes who kind
Of used to be like or it’s like recorded scratch well it’s funny they’re not like that he said it’s different it’s almost like they feel like he said it’s like it’s some sort of uh he’s like all these old white dudes are trying to take pictures with these guys and all smiling like
It’s some big deal like oh my God it’s like a it’s a black guy in here like in Florida too I mean the last time I looked into it if you were in a main if you were in your regular you know Phoenix of the lodge of Masons you could
Visit Prince Hall lodges but if you were in Prince Hall you’d have to get permission from Grand Lodge to go and visit a non-prince Hall Lodge so there’s still like this it’s weird after effects of segregation within you know Freemasonry which is like an echo of segregation that was in society at large
For a while it’s it’s a weird archaic thing so on the tail end of that because I want to get into our next segment but I really want to ask you this do you think that Freemasonry has a valuable or productive role in society today or do
You think it’s like a bad thing overall here’s what I think I think there’s a lot of good people that are Freemasons and I think ultimately there’s like a bad guy at top that’s like moving all the chess pieces yeah I well I do I I think that Freemasonry itself was
Started out of something that was never meant to happen so it’s a you know that’s my opinion and you know I could tell it into the Brotherhood the snake and how a lot of that their tenants came from that um but again I I just everybody estimation is
Not bad like I can tell you that verbatim I know a lot of good ones and they weren’t doing all the crazy stuff that people think Freemasons are doing and I know me saying that he’s a sigh up he said but it’s it’s I’ve just met too
Many good people that man they never thought they went to church every week they didn’t think like that they they weren’t even on that mind frame to them this was a this was a fraternity that helped the community and that’s how they thought now is there a small percentage
Of guys that are in there in certain positions that have other agendas or or a part of something else absolutely so I I it’s that’s for sure well maybe controversially I mean I it’s like the ultimate freemasonic purist you know nerd or whatever but I actually deep
Down kind of think that all the charity and Community work the Freemasonry does now has kind of diluted the real aim of Freemasonry it was never about like raising money for kids with speech impediments and right you know all it was never about none of that that happened because of the anti-masonic
Party and like it was this like PR move of like wait we’re helping the community too but yeah I mean personally I think if anything that might have deluded the whole like seeking Arcane knowledge and trying to break down these archaic texts and you know understand magic in in like
In society and now it’s like hey go there if you want to watch Boxing or if you want to like have some beers or if you want to just you know get that comptroller position maybe you gotta start rubbing elbows with the right people at like Lodge meetings and stuff
Uh but I mean I don’t know personally I think that all that is not what Freemasonry was ever about so maybe Oliver would have been one of those nerds that had been like yo let’s just do black magic ceremonies in the back after they all leave
Black aprons only you know go for sure yeah and again there were guys that I ran into they’re generally older that you just knew it’s a certain look certain certain way they would like hand [ __ ] you give you a handshake and not those type of handshakes but just
Certain way they would look at you and talk to you it’s like they could tell that they could always tell somebody’s in there for something else it’s not just the camaraderie if you’re in there for something else and I I actually when I went through it um
I verbatim like knew everything like it like by heart so when I was going through um all the different steps uh the initial to get through the three the Master Mason the steps I mean I was uh proficient I was one of the most proficient guys to go through there so
They were they were pretty impressed with that part of it and that was I think some of those guys knew like he’s not just he’s in here for this so I again you know life happens and I think you know there was a divine intervention there and I know people have their own
Idea of what that is but for me that’s what that was and I think it drove me away from that path because I found out that man I don’t have to do that to get knowledge um anyway so I feel like that I can get access to knowledge regardless and I’m
Having a blast doing it still so yeah that’s that’s my Freemason story and somehow I got interjected into into the Netherland Memorial Day wow dude well and I just I mean you don’t have to tell me but when you got to the third degree how many times did you have to lick the
Uh the goat embryo until the thing happened did you get it on the on did you get on the third leg or did it take you longer well it was like the 10th and then that’s yeah I transcended at that point in our lodge if it takes you more than
Nine licks for the embryo it’s almost like an immediate black ball but whatever I guess lower standards lower standards and Prince Hall that’s why you were able to impress him so easily and be like a complete you know hit episode I was gonna shock you and be like yo I
Got this research I knew you were Satanist I know you were Freemason are you a cop Joel Thomas are you a cop you got it because if you are a cop you have to tell me it’s it’s basically a law bro oh he took damn dude
He took the glasses off what kind of NLP shit’s going on like I can’t see what direction he’s looking if anyone was watching if you Baseline where he was looking every time I asked him a question he told the truth now watch where his eyes go okay
Joe Thomas are you a police officer no I’m not my sister is acting damn got that nervous laugh bro okay that’s cool you too man you look like a Men In Black I’ve been called CIA a lot in the past year man like some three letter man I
Get it all I actually graduated earlier this year to Illuminati I finally got that on the card I was like man I’m really like I’m moving up that’s just gonna start though man because now you got like all of the Illuminati platinum and bronze and like diamond and emerald
It gets annoying dude so okay so so I’m gonna have a whole bunch more questions for you the way that this works is I’m it’s going to be kind of rapid fire so if you want to expand on something just give it a score that’ll make US expand
On it later but we’ll do like 10 15 questions or something I just want to get from you a zero if you think it’s [ __ ] and again if you’re all in if a 10 is like not only is this true but I will convince you it’s true after this
Like you know let me buy you again for the thing if you’re on the fence or if you don’t care or if you can be swayed it’s kind of a five so you know this is a temperature check okay right yeah so and I got a new I was literally
Rendering this intro out I’ll probably improve it the next time that I play it but here we go hey conspiracy about I double dare you to take some PCP the Paranormal conspiracy Probe on your marks get set and go thank you Mark Summers okay there is infinite land Beyond an arctic wall zero
To ten three three okay someone within the last century has successfully summoned a literal demon 10. damn it okay medieval Alchemist successfully created the element gold eight Hollywood striking is important zero crystals can hold magical or spiritual energy five Osama Bin Laden was interred at Sea in May in 2011. six
Reptilian humanoid entities are a genuine species 10. the Freemasons exert significant troll over current Global events seven Lee Harvey Oswald was the individual responsible for JFK’s assassination zero beings that match the traditional description of mermaids exist or have existed in the past seven the Earth is flat two dinosaurs are real
Oh man that’s that’s a loaded question okay let me let me rephrase it the way that if you were to go into the Natural Museum of History and they’re like here’s the dinosaur exhibit how true was that on on zero to ten one the Titanic was deliberately sunk by JP
Morgan as part of an insurance scam seven there’s celebrity clones on TV right now seven damn dude okay and then there’s the last one extraterrestrials helped construct the pyramids three all right so I mean we’re all we’re all over the board Brock yeah I can’t really
Pin you down on any of this so the first one was infinite land beyond the arctic wall so let me let’s break this down apart I think you gave it like a three or something which means it might be possible but you’re pretty far away from
It so where are you at on the Arctic Ice wall do you think that that the government is preventing people from passing this arctic wall and that they’re hiding something behind it here’s what I think well if you believe in arctic wall you got to be a flat
Earther in my opinion now I do think there’s a concept that maybe there’s an arctic wall on the globe system and there’s more land on the globe system and then we’re just trapped in like a little rain on the globe that’s a possibility I here’s what I think
There’s a lot if we’re going to talk about the soft disclosure there are a lot of films and a lot of media that’s out there with ice walls and when you look at Game of Thrones I mean there’s a lot of different ones that keep pushing this narrative I don’t know if they’re
Doing that just to like mess with us just you know it’s not true there’s some [ __ ] going on down in Antarctica that’s a fact like there’s just no there is there’s I think there’s extraterrestrial activity whatever that means Fallen Angels aliens whatever you want to say is going on down there
There’s stuff going on down there’s no reason for us to keep sending high-level politicians and and and from all over the world down there consistently all the time it just doesn’t make any sense I mean operation high jump I mean that’s we don’t know how true it was or what actually happened during
Operation high jump I mean we’ve heard some of the stories about the ships that came up and cut you know the the Brigade down like butter knives and I don’t know I’ve got a friend of mine he does the documentaries uh with me his name’s Christian and this is a funny
Story it’s an extra true story his grandfather was on operation high jump and his grandfather was a high level um uh hypnotist and he used to hypnotize men on the ship as pranks and jokes so some of the line of thought from him was I’ll just stick it in my mouth right or
What if he was hypnotizing people to think something happened there when nothing actually happened so there’s another thought or process there too that’s or vice versa yeah exactly so we don’t know what happened there I will say this there’s definitely there’s people and entities meeting in Antarctica whether you think it’s like
An ice wall and there’s stuff bot you know further I don’t know man I’m not a bit I’m not big on the Flat Earth concept I’m gonna throw it completely out but I think it’s got a lot of holes in it um just like I think you know just like
They could shoot holes in the globe system you could do the same thing with great research just right back at it too I think a lot of people and I’m actually doing some really deep Dives right now on the globe system and the combatants to Flat Earth because I don’t think enough
People do that I think what happens is you got people who are like it’s a globe because I’ve been taught at the globe and then you got a guy who’s done like five to ten years of research on Flat Earth and he comes up to somebody and
Starts hitting them with stuff and they don’t know how to answer to it so all they can do is say you’re crazy and you’re this but not having legitimate arguments back and one of the things I’m working on some thesis is myself to where I’m going to be able to break this
Down not only from just a scientific level but also an occultic level too and biblically because they always they always point to the Bible when it actually in Hebrew a lot of those things didn’t mean what they said that it did in a lot of those verses they take are
Out of context when it’s talking about Flat Earth it doesn’t even mean that either but the Freemason knows what it says cool cool well so does that does that does that have problems for you in this in this like conspiracy World it doesn’t because I don’t let it bother
Me and I’ve been very upfront and open about it like out the gate so for me it’s like if I was trying to hide it then that would be one thing I’m not I’m very open has it closed any doors for you not that I know of now it could have
Opened any doors for you not that I know of no if you just knock three times you know it’s funny because Tony has been hit up many times by uh people and emails and stuff especially that first year when we were like we’re coming like go watch your back bro oh
Yeah big time oh he gets it all the time uh we just did a I was just on the confessionals a couple months ago I did a whole uh like two and a half hour presentation on Old Earth and like some of the comments man are just Priceless
Like we are you can listen to Freemason of course he’s gonna deceive us he’s leading us down the path of like yeah I hear you man like look all I can do is be honest and upfront and if people believe in cool if they don’t then I get
It like is there a way that you could actually prove that you are not a Nephilim portal baby I I don’t know if I could I mean because there’s really no litmus test for that is there there isn’t and sadly a lot of Nephilim genes uh they were redheaded so
They were James damn yeah dude so so yeah I think we brought I know I brought this up to you but have you ever heard that they used to forge swords in the urine of redheads I thought I brought that up to you maybe not no I don’t know
If I’ve heard that one you should look into that woman it’s legit I have no idea what the rest of the context is but they thought that gingers had like magical peas so they would Forge or sore before you went into battle if you were
Like yo this is a a ginger piss sword I guess people would like get out of the way right like oh here’s another thing for you I think if you get killed by a ginger piss sword that it like takes your soul or something I don’t know the magic rules
Well a little known fact too and I’m sure you know but like uh the Irish were slaves um to the UK and they actually sold um the Irish into slavery during the same time the black people were being sold into slavery over here so there were a lot of white slaves a lot
Of white slaves over here at the same time they’re black slaves that’s a little known fact that people don’t want to talk about because it doesn’t fit The Narrative of the black versus white thing but they actually took uh Irish Ginger uh women and made them have sex
With the black men to create mulattos is what they called them because they would sell for more than the one than just the pure white guys because they’re like they’re not going to do as much for us as these are so it’s we actually the Irish were actually [ __ ] on the worst
Out of the whole situation I don’t know if that has to do with the fact that you know maybe in some part where they’re like hey they got these like magical jeans gotta hold them down um I don’t know man it’s very similar to like you know so black people say
They’re the Kings and they were suppressed because they were I guess you could throw the same argument out on that level too man but have you ever heard anything about nation of God’s a nurse and Five Percenters and like Jakob the big-headed scientist that that created white Giants Underground I
Have not heard about that now I’ve heard about white Giants underground but I haven’t heard that story look into it man I’ll give you some links after this send me that I’m all about white Giants underground so let’s see so you also you I think you gave this a 10 I said that
Someone has successfully summoned a literal demon in the last century and you were like 10. so I mean so I want to ask you a couple like one like what is like when when I say a literal demon got summoned what are you seeing in mind is it just like a dude
That like Works them up self into a frenzy and starts acting like a dick to everybody or like is he seeing you know like Ghostbusters style Slimer comes up something manifested for sure definitely yeah I think so I mean I can say that just On My Level you know I’ve
Manifested like entities where I’ve seen them physically like in front of me so I think they’re all bad like there would all be evil do you think there’s any good versions I don’t think there’s any good versions of demons but what about like Solomon right Solomon had command over
Um like the 72 demons or or whatever it was because he knew how to control them through these sigils and put them to work and I think the justification was that Jesus was able to command demons so therefore it’s like I guess like legal there’s like a loophole where you’re
Allowed to command demons because Jesus did it uh but I mean was like what’s your take on Solomon was Solomon a good guy was he like an evil magician I think initially was good if you’re going just strictly biblically I mean when he started taking in all these concubines
And wives and everything he started taking on their gods too and that’s when he got shunned by Yahweh after that so he there’s biblical text where he was pretty much on the outs towards the back end of his like career um but I do think that’s where a lot of
The Freemason lore and all that stuff comes into play too because listen I think especially extra biblical texts you know with some of those things you’re just talking about um yeah I think they exist I think he was I don’t think it was for any good means I think here’s another thing too
Let’s put this in the concept I think sometimes people can do things they think are good too but are being manipulated as well so I think there’s that concept so maybe he thought he was you think Solomon got conned are you saying you’re smarter than Solomon
I think someone’s a smart dude but I think anybody can be uh Twisted especially when it comes to like power and you know he was definitely power for it very and I think yo you see it throughout time I mean like even King David man like he crumbled down too man
He’s looking at Bathsheba like get naked over there at the middle of the night he’s like hey bring her up here he sends her her uh husband out in the front lines to get him killed so he can have her and he’s supposed to be like one of
The most Godly men so like yeah everybody everybody’s like we’re human like we do stupid messed up stuff man it’s just what we do like we’re not we’re not perfect and you know Solomon you know he’s probably he’s one of those two I I think anybody can fall into the
Trappings of you know what happens with power and fame when it when it comes to summon and demons I’m curious if like if let’s say that you’re an atheist right you’re fresh out of high school I graduated yesterday I’m an atheist I’m gonna head into the world and I go in
And I’m surfing on Amazon and there’s like summon a demon 101 demonology for idiots and I order like the top six of those books right like how to summon Lucifer whatever like do you think just a regular person that doesn’t actually believe in any of it could sit down read
The rituals do the rituals to the T go and get the newt’s eyes and the freaking you know do do all of the things and summon a demon or do you think that you also have to have some kind of like Supernatural connection like you have to
Have you know like the force in you already I you know and I’ve heard that too where people have certain connections just naturally um you know uh we’ve had Gary Wayne on the show before and he’s just like a Nephilim just expert and he talks about
The Isis Gene um the fairy Gene that’s passed down through generations of you know people that have some sort of connection with Nephilim somewhere and they may have like they may have if they open up certain doorways they have a little bit more access um to being able to connect to some of
These entities I don’t know I think if you’re looking and seeking for it you’ll find it I think it’s inevitable I think you will um but if you’re you know just a hardcore uh proponent against it um maybe you won’t because you’re not open to being able to connect to it but
I’ve known people that were very atheist and dabbled in I’d see him two years later man they’re all in so I don’t I don’t know I I it’s a it’s a weird it’s an odd question I think it go either way let’s say that you were all the way in
Right and you’ve like highly trained and you go to your Oto practice or whatever the hell they do um do you think that it would be possible for someone to like set up you know paranormal um Style cameras all over the place and summon a demon and capture the demon on camera or
Do you think that like they exist outside of natural physics and it just would never be able to be possible I don’t know here’s here’s the one thing too I think people have probably caught things on camera like Cryptids and all kind of stuff but you know could have
Gotten confiscated by three letters as well so it’s like you may have had it but maybe it got confiscated so I don’t know I know some people think they have some stuff on camera I’ve seen some weird stuff that people have caught on camera too where it’s like I don’t have
An answer for that you know maybe it was CGI but you did they have access to that kind of technology that that lone person like I don’t know unless somebody you said that you had some personal experience with seeing like you know an entity do you think that if you were to
Like whip out your camera and you’re like yo hold on a second you know self-ed them like would that work man I jumped out of the room like what would happen I I I I doubt it in my opinion and then again it goes to what you said
Too maybe it’s on a plane of existence like maybe I could see it but maybe it’s not in a realm that I could take a picture of it of I don’t know I you honestly man I don’t know if I ever thought about doing that that was going
On I think no I guess because in the back of my mind I mean American at heart I feel like the the capitalist Society we live in right if like ghosts or demons or whatever I’m not going to say real but if you could consistently summon them like if there were actual
Rules of do this formula and you know cut off the chicken’s head and the thing shows up right and someone would have made like a tick tock account doing that all day and then selling you know stickers or something for it and the fact that that hasn’t happened yet to me
Is maybe one of the biggest things that leaves a lot of skepticism on my eyes same thing with Bigfoot I uh and and I want to talk about Bigfoot before we we start wrapping up here because you’ve got like multiple documentaries Merkel media uh kind of put Bigfoot on the map
More for me like you know reinvigorated it since Harry and the Hendersons and stuff right so does Bigfoot play by these same rules you think do you think he could like shift out of the dimension that we’re in and make himself impervious to cameras does he know that
You’ve got a camera in your pocket ahead of time because he’s got some kind of technological you know telekinesis or like what what’s the deal there same question I guess right how come there’s not a tick tock account with some dude that’s like yo I found where Bigfoot you
Know hangs out here he is uh what’s up bro you know well it depends on what you think Bigfoot is I mean I think people run into a lot of things they may think is actually Bigfoot and it’s not too so it could be entities they’re playing tricks um if it’s actual Bigfoot
I think we can start talking like you know quantum physics and being able to move in and out of dimensional shifts cloaking a lot of people talk about them being able to cloak um and having some sort of cloaking for lack of better word technology but you know maybe something that biologically
They’re able to use to cloak um hey I don’t know and now I will say this to what you said about the tick tock account and and all that I think most people and I know myself would be included especially back then when I was involved with that stuff I
Think that we would look at it as a special thing we wouldn’t want anybody else to see it’s like people that want that Arcane knowledge but they don’t want anybody else having it I’m an elite because I have something that no one else has so I think you find those
People that are really seeking those powers and knowledges that would only want to keep it for themselves or at least the small group that they’re in whereas they wouldn’t want to publicize it so I think somebody that would want to publicize it if they’re doing it and you’re playing with entities I don’t
Know if any of these are going to be showing up for that because they’re looking at it as like oh well you’re not even trying to do what we want you to do so why would we want to help you you know in your money and build your bank
Account if you do like aliens and Bigfoot and Nephilim are just like avoiding PT Barnum back in the day they’re just like yo stay this guy’s on The Blacklist no one’s allowed to [ __ ] with PT Barnum I think PT Barnum probably watered them I mean you just don’t know like behind
The scenes what what was going on um you know and to the point of the uh you were talking about the Grays the aliens you know just to wrap up real quick because we jumped all over the place but the Nephilim portable is what they actually are in my opinion we were
Talking about the Fallen Angels being able to find a loophole I think that these Grays are meat sacks that house the old spirits of the Nephilim the Demonic entities of the Nephilim that then take these women or men into another dimension and whether it’s by some sort of scientific method or
Having sex with them they create these Nephilim in this other dimensional shift and it’s like the ZIP code rule right like it’s not cheating if it’s another not cheating if it’s not here so that is where the deafland portal babies come from and I think they’re cooking up a
Lot of Nephilim in these other dimensions this one’s free bro this one’s on the house Angel anchor babies Angel anchor babies that’s on the house rule that’s on the house I like that that’s the workaround that was that was my concept man and it kind of took off
So we had a lot of crazy stuff I was on several podcasts leading up to the big one and we had a lot of Technology issues that were shutting down equipment that wasn’t supposed to be shut down and it got pretty crazy so it led up to a
Big four and a half hour podcast that I did with Tony and several other podcasters uh on his so I broke down the whole entire Theory Brotherhood of the snake everything on that so people want to go listen that they can it’s it’s it’s good it’s a good episode if you
Talk about portal babies at all any of the episodes I did about portal babies will pop up maybe the Nephilim portal baby guy I like it yeah so so you mentioned before when you guys go out and do some of like the Bigfoot hunts and whatnot yeah you
Know are are you strapped and you’re like brother you know anti-state is of course I’m curious are is the Firepower to protect from like other animals or are you legit prepared to shoot Bigfoot himself if something pops off or or do you think that it’s not like that like
You would never have to shoot Bigfoot or do you think there’s a chance you would have to I don’t think so now now so okay so not everybody’s in agreement that goes on these trips about what’s going to happen if they were to run into Bigfoot or Dogman or whatever else because the
First trip we went down dog man which is a whole other Beast uh as far as you know what people have run into with that there’s nothing good coming out of those like Bigfoot you hear a lot of good stories you don’t hear anything good coming out of dog man so
What we bring the artillery for is really mainly other animals because you don’t know what you’re going to run into in these national parks and all these you know crazy uh Deep Woods Adventures that we go on you’re gonna run into everything so if we run up on a bear or
Something you know obviously I’ve been around bear like if you don’t mess with them generally they’re not going to mess with you but one’s charging you or something man you better have something man you’re not you’re not out running it like it’s not gonna happen so uh it’s
Good to have that also if by some odd chance you ran across a Bigfoot or something and it got aggressive that would be the only reason I would shoot I’m generally not in the camp of trying to be aggressive to them I I’ll be honest with you I don’t care about
Getting them on camera I would just be happy if I saw it like if I was to see it I don’t care if anybody believed me or not like that would be a moment for me like it’s there right there now us being in Washington we did have some crazy things happen
There where we’ll just say that there’s definitely some weird stuff that we got on camera and a weird night where we felt like we were surrounded by several so it was pretty crazy especially when you’re deep out in the middle of the night in a national park by yourself uh weird stuff
Happens so what kind of caliber do you got to pack for for Bigfoot and Dogman are we talking like action Express are we talking like Creedmoor what what are you guys doing it just depends I mean if so I’ve got a uh does anyone bring nines
And feel like yeah this nine will do it or is like you’re not well it’s been how many rounds you got in that nine too I mean you know like if you got you know we got 33 fun sticks yeah um I generally if I’m going off in the woods Woods I’m
Going to take some sort of AR with me um I’ve got an extended like 60 rounds that I’ll throw in there um and go off in the woods with that I mean you know it hits you from pretty far um that’s what I normally care because
You know I’ve gotta I’ve got you know strap it over my shoulder and are we talking Tula Ammo or is this some good like USA made ammo or what like what kind of am are you going to shoot the green tips man I’m gonna take those out
There so yeah that’s gonna it’s gonna hit um but I do I do strap up now I’ve got uh I do have a nine that I generally take me because I’ve just always got that on me like around like you know concealed carry whatever like just in the car
Um but I do have one of my favorite uh handguns is a Ruger five seven and it’s one of the few guns out there that shoots uh rifle bullets and it’s got you know 20 in it so I can let off 20. how’s the kick on that I never shot one in
Person and there was no kick at all it’s the smoothest gun I’ve ever shot ever and I take it to the range and shoot too man it’s super accurate it’s gonna have a little more on it no it’s it’s well it’s not super low but it’s like a rhino
Or anything no nothing like that yeah it’s like the kicks like barely non-existent man non-existent on it yeah I can let them off like 20 like with nothing and not even feel it well you feel it in the wallet though yeah I feel like a wallet I will say it
Was during that uh 2020 stretch and everybody was just like buying guns like crazy like 20 20 early 2021 and I like actually put it on reserve and it was like man I couldn’t get it for like seven months and it finally came in and
I was like yeah I don’t care how much it is okay it I can co-sign that I think that would be good enough to stop though I mean if it’s not good enough to stop Dogman and Bigfoot there’s not a lot else you’re going to be doing out there
Yeah it’s yeah and that’s a thing now I will say that Ward who’s the camera guy that goes on the trips he’s highly trained um he’s you know he’s fought Jiu Jitsu and every kind of martial arts for almost 10 years so he’s great hand to hand
Um and he’s like super Adept with any kind of gun possible he’s been hunting since he was like two years old so he he’s got it all so he’s very Adept um so he and I generally if we’re in the woods Woods we’re generally with some sort of AR situation
Um I mean some and all the other guys have something as well and now on the dog man trip I took a uh a shotgun with me that time um because it was I think it was one of those things too you think about dog man
Like okay well is this like rifle round gonna go just through him and not do anything maybe I want something like even though he’s got to get up closer on Me Maybe I just take the couple of these big slugs maybe maybe I got a better
Chance of that so slugs are bird shots it’s hard to decide right right and I’m curious too because a lot of people talk about being prepared for the Wildlife or prepared for you know Bigfoot and dog man let’s say that you go out there you got footage someone
Gets footage and you guys are like this is it this is world breaking do you also have a contingency plan to like avoid the men on black on the way back home before you get you know pulled over and your gear confiscated and you know Amnesia implemented or like a lot of
Stuff in place okay you don’t got to tell me the exact game plan because obviously yeah but yeah but we do oh for absolutely yeah that’s for sure I mean that’s something we talked about before we even went on the first trip was if this happens this is what we do and if
This happens this is what we do there’s multiple Avenues of what we need to do to get the footage out um as soon as possible so and lawyers are involved in all that you gotta have people ready and willing well you heard it here man the the uh Prince Hall Satanist Freemason Bigfoot
Hunter Joel Thomas is strapped and if the alphabet agencies try to stop him coming back with a Nephilim portal baby he’s gonna he’s gonna have some slugs and some bird shot for you yeah okay set better myself I appreciate it man well thank you for coming on man we got so many more
Conversations ahead of us I hope because there’s a million different topics we can get into we bounced around on this one and uh we’ll get into some more so one more shout out tell people where they can find you on all your music all your podcasts all your documentaries
Everything yeah so you can go to kill the mockeybirds.com you can pretty much find everything there from the merchandise we have a disinformation section now that I put a lot of stuff up pretty much every week I’m putting up some sort of like government documents or things that we research for shows I
Try to give people access to they’re not like your typical articles they’re more like hey this is a uh government document that Donald Trump signed back when he was in office and you didn’t know that he signed or you know specific things like that we’ve got the cast sunstein
Um uh paper thesis that he wrote in 2008 um cognitive infiltration in which he set the basis for infiltrating conspiracy communities with fake conspiracies which was kind of the precursor I think the Q Anon um even though they won’t admit it but I think that was the precursor for that
But we have a lot of those documents that are up there for people to read and check out so I I encourage people to go do that if you’re looking for me music-wise you can type Joel Thomas into any streaming platform Everywhere YouTube uh go to youtube.com fantesla music go to atvantustommusic on
Uh Instagram you can catch me there uh at Killer Mike converts podcast on Instagram for the podcast itself and yeah man that’s uh pretty much it if you’re looking for the documentaries you can go to Apple TV you can go to Amazon Prime to be and just type in Expedition
Dog man the new one that’s coming out which you can see the poster right there uh the shape of Shadows that’ll be out in a few weeks so where and I’ll have links to everything that you just mentioned down in the description so people can check all that out and uh and
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