When people are being distracted by Entertainment Sports whatnot it allows oppression to even get worse because they’re literally being distracted I think many of these organizations are distractions Now Oo Brothers yes ma’am this is a question it’s a quick truthing session all I ask you is to tell me your honest truth walk in your truths do black organizations like sororities fraternities Jack and Jill lyns uh golden stars of the Usher board whatever are they good for the black community do
They help us become closer or do they create separation uh okay I’ll go first I will say these black organizations uh um I don’t believe in very hard answers so I’ll give you the the best soft answer I can get they’re doing the best they can I think black organizations are
Doing the best they can and to that degree they are doing a net positive for things that are happening in Blackness and I’m thinking particularly of black fraternities and sororities the D9 that are on campuses I went to Howard I saw a lot of organizations and I will say this
I pleased the organization but it wasn’t a dine organization it was a white frat on a black campus I sure did yeah I did and it’s something that I regret like tremendously it’s I was in the band it’s the band fraternity KK K was in KK that
Was white fraternity KK was day that to be in the come out with the the everybody do the band song the whole white white fraternity I know it a black fraternity 10 white dudes hated black dudes eight of them died not wanting black people in their fraternity
And when I think about it now when I was when I was on campus a truth now here’s the thing now here’s the thing here’s why I’m saying is a net positive we were emulating D9 organizations correct so like you said you hated to see us come
To the step show it got so bad at Howard they sto letting us come to the step shell right because we weren’t a black organization and as much as we turned it out Reon it was over I mean I mean essentially you have per performing art students in a
Fraternity right so of course the campus have no chance understand Kan what I Kan gonna do with that yeah but what that is not an institution that builds Blackness though it’s not even close I didn’t know that and if anything if anything it’s the opposite is a token
We are token chapters in a white organization two point that when I was when I was pledging and I was actually in the fraternity uh as an undergrad I wrote to our newsletter saying uh I need y’all to protect the golden side the golden side denotes all the black
Chapters because there was a policy being written that they wanted to get rid of the golden ey they didn’t wanted black chapters to ident them identify themselves as black chapters so here we are doing community service we’re doing stepping we’re doing strolling we’re doing everything this this uh I pledged
In 09 and it was still like wow I’m think no I pled in 2009 right right so and we are 89 y’all know I always do diversity because I like to see the diverse thought and it does it does generationally matter okay so so so imagine a white fraternity has a black
Chapter that does everything that your your fraternity did I don’t know your exact rituals but I like one to one in the time it was great but now that I’m 34 years old it’s like what did I do what organization did I join when I see the AKA that started Their Own Credit
Union something that’s directly benefiting black Blackness and it’s going towards the black problem which is black banking yet if I were to pay dudes to be go to some white dude in Oklahoma so they can Shine the tubers it’s a different it’s a different perspective so like coming from that thought process
The net positive of these black fraternities y’all are killing it and the pride that like just from stepping and strolling we’ll just keep it it that simple this pride of stepping and strolling on a black campus is something that you can’t just it’s something that’s Irreplaceable but let me ask you
Let me ask you this question though does that I mean yes you feel Pride when you’re with your frat brothers he changed the dynamic of the question I want you to give your original answer no but that’s how it so cold that that’s why I love truthing
That’s why I love Tru because negative too now there’s so much layers I I would say this so so you are a a brother of cap alpas right right I I actually pledged back in St Louis big money boxing beta n but I spent most of my
Time I came back to gamma Epsilon tusky and then I ended up at Z after bloody Z at Howard when I graduated so a little I had a very interesting tour now early on first of all we you know stolen Legacy so the whole concept of European
Stealing Egyptian you know fonic type uh uh history and claiming it as European when there’s no you know there’s no history of of Greeks or Romans building anything until he actually met African so it really was a thing where there were some folks who said look we need to
Change these Greek letters like even there was a time when folks would even talk about changing Howard name from a European name so we really there was an error where we really questioned all those fundamental pieces where we’re trying to imitate even the word pan Helen helenic is talk about Greek
People so this is really an affront to all our ancestors and really to who we are as a legacy because it was stolen to and validate that thievery as so-called enlightened folks super problematic right right right right right right so so in in that you know but I will say
You know if they had called themselves in at the turn of the century aaban Patriots or the the black they would have been killed they would have been killed absolutely I do get the fact that young black people will always want to organize even Tuskegee story Tuskegee we
Talking about 75th up in Booker T they did not want organizations that were controlled outside of the university to be operating on campus so literally before the 19 you know uh uh uh 40s those organization were clubs yeah and many of those clubs end up morphing into these these organizations but still
There was young black people organizing and I think to quami Tay’s point I think organizing will always be awesome like organize organize organize now if we want but if we want to take a real critique yes I think a lot of the organizing has now been coopted in a way
That is very problematic and and and and it’s it’s I have to just pose in real quick is that when people are being distracted by Entertainment Sports whatnot it allows oppression even get worse agree because they’re literally being distracted I think many of these organizations are distractions now and they’re literally mimicking imitating
Oppressor behavior and I think that’s my question that’s why I asked the question I’m sorry brother to cut you off the reason why I that I I asked this question reason why I created it and asked this question was I you know I am um a member of alpha calfa alpha um and
I was a member uh for a while um of the links which I decided that it wasn’t the right Organization for me beautiful Organization no whatever nothing negative against them but there is this um I I began to feel that there was this feeling of elitism and uh separation
From the from the entire Community right it’s like as a black organization yeah you know have to say yeah I think so that’s so that’s that was the question that I’m always asking myself yeah there’s a problem with it so it’s it’s again I think they you know when the
Revolution come they probably G to start bombing fed houses first because they’re goingon to be real problem we got to get rid of that because they might be a cancer right I mean in my I would never bomb anyone and I I don’t want anything
No I don’t know I don’t phys no no we’re not talking about bombing anybody no no no no pamp but there is so the the the other side of the question of be being ashamed of fraternity that I pledge why don’t you pledge why don’t you just pledge a
New one why don’t you just get into the black joints it’s because uh the process that I had to get into my fraternity which was replicated by these dine organizations was terrible it’s terrible and I know we don’t like to talk about it because it’s something we like to keep underground
But we’re talking about physical violence and the repetition of practices that were used against us during slavery to get people to join an organization and to become members and become members that that is the that is equally dangerous and that is the that is the
Part that to me when I say net positive the demerits or The Hazing did the merits are how we treat each other in these fraternities and organizations when we try to become members this is barbaric and I oh boy I hope you’re not going to I hope you’re
Not cuz if you think cuz the death of orgon the death of these organizations just like you said the death of white supremacy will be on white folks the death of these organizations will be on young black folks and if you think these gen Alpha and these young gen Z folks
Are going to be having you whooping their ass the name of my chapter is a psychotic Woodsman God that is if you think that these young folks a you know what I’m saying psychotic he what it is I’m down with the trauma Bond don’t get me wrong but if
You if you think these young folks are having it they not having it so let me just with the utmost humility I you know what I want you to say something arrogantly I don’t want the humble I’ll do I can do AR I can do
AR okay now look I a I ain’t with no skating I ain’t know with no paper nothing I’m not going to just come and pay some money to do something then you want to join join the choir there’s a lot of Club but you if you coming this
Way you need to go through look I’m I’m going throw word a rights of passage that’s it I like that like when you edit this do the eyes I’m close on the eyes pleas oh my God I think because you want to feel like people earned what you I think
There’s a process that needs to be so so I’m not going to try to unwind it too much but in the older days like right I pledge fall 89 literally I pledge nine weeks in a Day within one semester in the old days of cap alasi they would say I made Kappa
Fall 89 why because the scrollers Club was a legitimate Club where they did real activities and you might be in the scrollers club for two years and in that time you were in interial teams y’all did all these activities that but then there was a false claim what they called
Window opportunity real quick where the lawyers got involved they said look we’re getting exposed they didn’t care about black men dying or getting hurt they said look our national exposure is based on the fact that we have this long period of time that people go through and that’s going to cause us liability
So let’s take that time that naturally you would learn someone’s name and their likes let’s make it smaller let’s and they went from a semester then they said uh uh couple months 48 weeks was an 88 so they literally TR not 48 weeks 48 days so they literally tried something
That wasn’t logical and the people they had designing this program were lawyers at no time through and I’m saying 89 was when the Divine n that 1990 is when the so-called Divine n came together in St Louis to agree to no longer have these pledge processes when they did that
There was no sociologist involved there was no psychologist we had to go back on campus the next semester and they might have had some this is before V VCR was really big they had some couple slides you had to tell people who’ve been doing certain things over a long period of
Time oh by the way we’re not going to do it and Capal something that means something to people that meant something but even didn’t give them a way to change what they meant understand and even the thing that we just said that they meant it it never was analyzed like
No one ever said okay what is it about this thing that you think is important because we got to design this in a way that we don’t hurt black men no more right let me say way no one ever and I went to all the meetings m no one ever
Said we care so much about young black people we don’t want you to do this but let me ask you this they problem said was that we’re going to go we’re going to go get sued and we’re going to lose the Frat it was only they
Never so and even if you look at their solutions they the solutions never tooken after they did away with pledging we had folks young Brothers come up to us and say I want it the real way no I know I know a lot when they do you oh9
But literally when they away with pling so many brothers was like now everybody’s just going to flood in no that’s what I was going to say there going to be some people don’t go for it but there’s going to be some people but wait wait wait I want us to get back to
Where we started because I want us to get back to where we started cuz we just have a few minutes are they overall these organizations however you get in there right and I’m talking about all of them I’m think about however you get in there right are they overall good for the
Community because some people have said that it creates separate separation right it’s it’s like separating for in some people’s minds the talent and tith if that’s a thing I’m a Washington person you’re a b Wasington you’re not a div I think they’ve done they failed us they failed us the community the
Organizations have failed us yes the community the black community is trusted these folks to do right and they just took the money and ran and they act the fool that’s what I and so they don’t reach out to the broader black community no they don’t care about the broader
Black they don’t care about the broad black they care abouts so so I I would say you know I don’t disagree don’t disagree so I will say and I actually think what you say was actually a positive thing I think if I I think if I
Am president of Kappa and I hear you say that I’m like oh that is a problem I don’t know if I don’t know if and forgive me if this is ages but I don’t know if there are young enough folks in the positions of leadership at the top
Of the organization to ask the question that we’ve all been all the people my age group are asking the same question was it really worth it did it fracture my psyche how come my line brother had a psychotic break right before we did our right before we
And and the question that I ask as a person who’s very involved in wanting to to you know bring our our community closer and forward is what are we doing for that so I would get so frustrated because like some tragedy would happen you know this is when like black boys
Were being killed it seemed like every day and we would say my organization would say so we’ve written a letter I’m like a letter we’ve written a letter we do you know how many members we have like we need to be doing more because it’s a greater community and it felt
Very s SE to me and that’s what and I don’t and I don’t have an answer understand I have these questions he he answered it before there’s people running from it like this Society Running From what they’re Blackness these organizations are just like if you look at contextually they’re just wait a
Minut say these organizations are not to uplift black people but to separate and run from black running that is big that big I no brother said some people run towards Blackness some people run away from it right these organizations are running from it yeah by being insular
Right yeah they don’t listen it’s stop we got to we got to like stop cide we say our our purpose is is achievement but it’s individual achievement not Collective it’s individual achievement what is that going do for us how we going to get out of here with just me
Cuz black people can’t afford to be individualistic one black 10 black billionaires ain’t goingon to get us out of here we collectively got to get out of here absolutely you know what absolutely I had that was that was Tru for your ass and I appreciate y’all in
That question thank you very much humbly thank you thank you very much for truthing with me Cheers Cheers Cheers shout out to psych psych that guy The Psychotic Woodsman God he’s visiting us today he is OG xman coming to town man that was good
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