None other than shizzy wizzy you know they were [ __ ] my they were [ __ ] me up man this black lady comes out of nowhere I swear to this day I think she was am she grabbed me and she brought me to the hospital I got stitched up she
Literally picked me up and she said get your hands off my baby after 12-hour day at the Expo coming in here and doing this you don’t see nobody else in here everybody else bounced this is somebody that wants to level up not one level two
3 4 go control down when you come from that place like there’s not really a making it you know it’s always more you could always do more and I feel like just finding that like peace about like being where you’re at and everything’s fine is hard for us I was doing Cal
Statics for like 6 months while I was in there I was pushing up like pull up sit-ups like running a lot it’s like bro get in the gym I was like no man I don’t like those guys man they’re all full of themselves like they suck like dude just
Check it out try it you have a great frame maybe you could be like you know maybe like we could be huge bro you could be jacked the good news is you’re going to grow the bad news is it’s going to hurt it’s going to yeah what’s up what’s up homies we’re
Back with uh transparent and today we got a sick ass special guest my [ __ ] boy sir known as shizzy shizzy lifts my real Sean JY Taff better known as well not better known as but the original the best Sean wait so what’s Taff from uh Taff e what
Like what country is it from no what is Taff it’s my last name that’s your last name okay yeah it’s Taffy though what is it from the candy I think I I Googled it because I don’t know man like my I’m like like my ethnicity is so like spread
Apart that I was like Curious like where my last names from mhm and I guess it’s from like Welsh it’s like Welsh it’s a Welsh last name from like Google that’s what I got are you Welsh no what the fu that’s why I was just like okay that
Doesn’t make any sense but like at least I have some kind of fact yeah to tell people like it’s Welsh which is I think is like German right it’s like germanish what’s your ethnic makeup well my dad is Puerto Rican and Irish my mom is Lithuanian and
Dutch so could be from the it wouldn’t be from my mother’s side so it had to be like Irish around there huh you know because it’s definitely not Hispanic last name yeah that’s pretty sick as [ __ ] though dude my mom got my [ __ ] first name my first name is like Irish
Too it’s n it’s n like [ __ ] Nile’s Thornberry it’s like the river though you know that’s pretty dope the Nile River yeah I guess if you spelled it with an i yeah it would be but um uh she just got it off a baby book she like was
Looking at she was like how can I find like a name that has literation with like niga you just found Nile I’ll just pick this name and it’s [ __ ] Irish was better than Shawn Michael dude like that’s that’s the most generic like [ __ ] name and uh I’m named after my
Dad’s brother so it’s like his name is Michael Shawn and I my name is just literally flipped Michael Shawn wait is there a reason why he named you after his brother I think it’s because my dad is really big into um like family history okay and lore and things of that
Nature so he named the firstborn uh male of our family after him and I think he wanted to name the second male after his brother because basically he’s just he believes in family a lot even though like the guy wasn’t even in the family for very long long but damn yeah oh like
Even though your your dad wasn’t in the family yeah yeah he like he would like preach about family and stuff like that but him and my mom um they got divorced when I was in like second grade I think so like he was never really in my life cuz she had like
A crazy uh um restraining order on him for 14 years dude so I didn’t he I couldn’t see him and 500 feet he couldn’t come within 500 feet of me for 14 years and by that time I was like 17 18 you know that’s [ __ ] nuts dude
It’s crazy bro and I saw him and I was it was almost like I don’t know man it was like unreal cuz he looks we look so alike and I was like dude this is it’s my dad and he’s tall and he looks just
Like me and his it was just it was a cool time is he just as jacked I no no dude he like he needs to stop smoking sigs bro cuz like that’s all he does is like smok sigs damn yeah he’s kind of shoveled up now but back in the day in
His prime that dude was that dude was a menace man he said he was a rock star right or something like that no he play yeah he plays drums he played drums in in the band he tried everything dude like that’s one thing about my dad I
Always loved bottom is like he was like what was that what was that saying a master of all TR uh jack of all trades and a master of none and that’s that’s exactly who he was you know he always tried new things that’s cool the founder
Of Spotify is that too that’s how he explained himself yeah he says he was the master of or no the Jack V trad’s master of none because he he never was was perfect at anything but he could always relate to every area he could relate to artists he could relate to
Musicians he could also relate to the businessman yeah now he’s got you know Spotify makes sense he brought it all together yeah so there’s nothing wrong with being a jack of all Trad that’s cool sometimes I feel like that’s something I’m dealing with I feel like
I’m not perfect in anything so I’m just it’s hard dude yeah bro it’s hard to stay focused in one thing you know everything’s uh especially nowadays you got so many things on your phone popping up guys and girls who like you know get on Tik Tok right you see somebody
Playing a piano and they’re really good at it but you don’t know that they’ve been practicing for like 16 years oh yeah so like you’re like oh I’m taking piano lessons or you know oh I want to you know take up drawing and it just it just takes time man like everything
Takes time and that’s I think that’s what’s tough it’s like you can be good at something but to be great it’s a lot like more it takes a lot more time and focus and energy MH plus I feel like we all no matter what you get yourself into I don’t know if I
Could say that one person has done the same thing their entire life my favorite teacher of all time in my high school was his name was uh Mr turkle Right Mr turkle was originally a mechanical engineer from Carnegie melon he was in a fraternity he did some crazy [ __ ] then
He quit cuz he thought it was boring as [ __ ] so then he moved on to work at a ubo he was working on a uot they were in the sea or something and then one guy I think it was there was a storm and the boat was like oh flying away from like
Port or something and this guy was like trying to hold on to this uh he was trying to like they were all just trying to like rail him back so they didn’t just go out to see or some [ __ ] like that and Mr turl watches as this guy has
It strapped around his arm his arm gets [ __ ] torn off he witnessed someone’s arm getting torn off yeah damn dude so he quit the ubot and he decided to go into firefighting I quit that [ __ ] too man [ __ ] I’m just like dude this this guy did the most ridiculous stuff and then
Now he’s like 7 or something so [ __ ] healthy and he works at some Math and Science High School that’s where he taught me math a story dude yeah [ __ ] just teaching kids yeah imagine like and he’s happy yeah telling your his grandkids you know like six years old
Like like a scary story about this guy’s arm getting ripped yeah that’s insane his stories were pretty sick though yeah I mean now he gets to tell all of us all the students so I think he’s making a good impact you know no matter what the
[ __ ] you decide to do yeah I mean yeah exactly like even uh like you have to make mistakes dude you have to like really do sometimes some dumb things to have a cool story to tell you know be yourself make those mistakes I feel like my dad probably has a couple cool
Stories that he made you know and like you know things that he you know obviously regrets but you know it shaped him into a person and that’s what’s I feel like even the teacher you know like making those mistakes is like super super critical about building character
I mean I feel like you’ve got your own sick ass story too and I know we’ve talked a little bit about it but I told him want to like delve into it cuz yeah yeah so one thing I was telling Sean one time we were working out a while back is that
Uh like honestly bro no homo but you [ __ ] remind me of my best friend Ryan you do and I I love it dude it’s like it’s like this energy that just I think it draws people in and it draws me in especially and it’s like this uh this
Sense of like humbleness that you have about you even though you’ve been through [ __ ] and that’s something that I can respect cuz I don’t know why my best friends happen to have like we all my best friends I’ve ever had have all had a really shitty childhood but in a totally different way
So my two closest best friends like they grew up in poverty they didn’t have anything um and I told you a lot about this story yeah I’m different I was blessed to have two parents and I was blessed to have them have money mine is just very very different mine was
Like conservative of Asian you know growing up in a household alone and only child and then just some other stuff you know um uh a little bit um that Asian type of I don’t really like to say it cuz I’m sure everybody has had worse yeah but uh
I definitely I don’t know what was going through my mind but I was I was pretty suicidal for the first like 16 years of my life so the first 16 years I moved out of the house 15 years old I applied for the math and science school and then
I lived in the there for a while wow and that’s where I got in tons of trouble cuz I was [ __ ] free bro I was free I could imagine yeah yeah that’s so young to be thinking those thoughts yeah I guess you know that’s an emotional time for someone too you know
But that’s actually something I was thinking about earlier today before you know we had this podcast is uh I I want to I want to hear more of your story but I feel like you and I both both have this blessing where we can look at the past and be like [ __ ]
Thank God I’m not there anymore 100% dude yeah I mean like even like that’s why I love music so much cuz sometimes like I can’t find the words to describe like how happy I am where to be where I am now and sometimes when I hear people
Talk about like where they come from and like something like you know I just it it helps me to understand that like you know I’m not the only one you know that other people have done it too and like just appreciate life you know yeah yeah it’s tough
Man sometimes it’s tough to like really just sit down with yourself and be like yo I made it dude like I’m here yeah because like when you come from that place like there’s not really making it you know it’s always more you could always do more and I feel like just
Finding that like peace about like being where you’re at and everything’s fine is hard for us because like we’ve just grown you know when just grown so much you know so it’s just like what’s next so what did you like initially want to do uh did you have an idea when you were
A kid yeah yeah I wanted to be an archaeologist actually oh [ __ ] yeah yeah I wanted to like dig up like dinosaurs and stuff that’s cool yeah like go to the desert and like find like uh treasure dude I was a I loved the idea of like finding treasure I’d go on like
Walks and find like little like Coes and like digging the dirt trying to find like some kind of like gold coin and I used to have dreams and like daydream about like driving down the side of the road and just seeing a duffel bag in the
Weeds and opening it up and there’s like hundreds of dollars bundles of cash in there that’s sick yeah it’s just like it’s always treasure has always been like so close to my heart damn that’s crazy I got to find the one piece yeah baby let’s go you dude you have to be
You have to be Zoro I have I’m going to be S for Halloween this year I’m going to make Tiffany be uh Nami Nami or Robin Nami or Robin [ __ ] rob dude man yeah bro Double D’s man love them wonder about Rob CH something about I
Have this weird thing for for Robin Misa and uh um Misa from Death Note Misa from Death Note kind of like mus from Death little em little girl yeah that’s probably why and then uh [ __ ] uh I’m brain fighting but from um attacko Titan you know who I’m talking about everybody
Knows who I’m talking about yeah yeah I think who’s like who would be mine honestly Nami bro I just like her attitude and those those tits bro just amazing there’s like this one scene bro where she’s in the [ __ ] shower and like you just like the Mist is covering
Her nipp hles I was like damn bro like I Ain never been tempted to watch hentai in my life but I feel like watching that [ __ ] right now bro did you watch Bleach yes yeah they had like [ __ ] hundred of those scenes man like with yoruichi mhm mhm yeah they know what they’re
Doing dude they do they bro they do [ __ ] what was the first anime you ever watched uh or red Naruto oh [ __ ] yeah started out strong dude Naruto’s I don’t know actually you would Yu-Gi-Oh count yeah Yu-Gi-Oh yeah Yu-Gi-Oh yeah bro I had I had those decks man I played that car sh
Thing like damn man that was good bro CL like my blue eyes white dragon oh hell yeah like uh the high school lunch tables bro y yu-i go battles all day we also had a Beyblade battles in the oh yeah in the [ __ ] in like the slide mhm kids are
Trying to slide down the slide we got we got people watching right now who probably don’t know what we’re talking about I know I know right honestly you guys missed out dude yeah Pokemon and then it was probably yeah Yu-Gi-Oh and then Dragon Ball Z and then
Like Naruto was all like around like the like my first three animes I’ve ever watched nice Naruto’s a dude like as much as that’s like a cliche anime and like you know it’s it’s just so [ __ ] well written like the story is so crazy deep and just even all down
To the powers and everything are just so intricate I’m like how much how much time you [ __ ] take planning this [ __ ] out bro like yeah like his entire life I feel like yeah wow like what what made you like think about all these things you know
Mhm like Mike guy final final form dude at the very end like even you know even that was just so emotional cuz he like gave up his life yeah you know they’re like fighting like this unbeatable character with crazy strength and it’s like that’s why I love anime so much
Dude it’s like you could relate it to life so like so like real like Naruto lowkey gave me so much strength bro this like his nindo way bro it’s just like I don’t quit and I loved it you know I was just like yeah like I’m gonna Embrace
That dude I’m gonna Embrace that like no quit attitude do as many ways as I can anime I I always felt like I [ __ ] related Naruto probably because I was that Outcast ass kid I was that weird ass kid bro sitting in the swing by yourself yeah dude I was always getting in
Trouble too I was getting the like the red slip for like being too loud in class I think I had that I was that kid with ADHD when I was when I was young mhm [ __ ] but that had me that actually had me thinking um about uh you know who was
A like guy in these character giving their lives but um and then you mentioning the names earlier my friend uh Dion and I were actually thinking about naming our kid like cuz you’re you’re you’re saying that you’re you were laughing about how your name feels like yeah very common and everything we
Were thinking about naming our kids um like I was going to name him like Kevin Ryan and he he was going to name his kid like Ryan Kevin after our best friend that passed away yeah cuz his his name was literally just Ryan Kevin I feel like those are the two most common
Names on the planet right along with it yeah I feel like as long as it like mean something know yeah mean something strong then who [ __ ] cares yeah I feel like names are super important too you know like there’s like the meaning behind it and stuff like that yeah yeah
See my name’s different but my mom just [ __ ] yeah pick it out a baby book don’t even know what the [ __ ] it means well you got to figure that out for yourself yeah you got to write your own destiny bro no yeah this is true you
Know this is true there was a girl female friend of mine though that was saying that you could look up your name and see what it means just like Googling it online want to do it right now [ __ ] yeah let’s [ __ ] do it let’s do it
Look it up dude oh [ __ ] you got it already yeah yeah my service sucks what does it say mine so Nile means Champion or passionate dude keep going is that it yeah just Champion comma passionate bro that’s real dude you’re probably like other than myself like you are a passionate
Person I mean the people your relationships dude like even just talking about your friends but even even like what we talked about you know with like just like relationships with anyone you like you take it very seriously and deep so that makes sense dude that’s what I mean like names are important may
Your mom might have picked it out of a book but there’s a lot more that’s going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about thank you bro that really means a lot I think um I know we’re we’re all tailored based off of our experiences as a kid and
Maybe but yeah I think uh I think it’s just cuz um I think I just had a very lonely childhood so I think I realized that uh the number one thing for me is just the relationships just like people friendships relationships like having like a a family and a community yeah I
Think cuz I don’t think I’ve ever felt a more miserable feeling than just being absolutely totally alone do you find that in the fitness industry family relationships do you think or where do you find it the most would you say I got to be real um most of my family and
Friends have been out of the fitness industry I’d say okay so I lived in San Diego for the first four years and I kind of uh I actually had a bad perception of La at first I was like people are probably just going there to you know for status or to get things
From each other yeah and everyone in San Diego I’m sure you’ve heard but like people in San Diego just they’re just chill they just want to have a good time it’s very like kind of sleepy but everyone’s there just to enjoy life so it’s cool yeah but then afterwards I was
Like you know I want to take a chance and I want to try something new cuz I’ve been in San Diego for so while so moved up to LA and there’s still a lot of amazing people here there’s still a lot of really real ass cool amazing people
Here and I guess it just means you just have to take time to find your tribe 100% I mean like I was talking with Jay Cutler yesterday and I was I was overwhelmed dude like being out here uh the fitness industry in general like meeting uh these characters uh trying to
Find someone genuine is so so hard you know cuz um I feel like everyone kind of wants something from you but like Jay was just being like a father figure he just gives me like such a father figure energy man he does right you know he
Just sits with you and he asks you questions and he’ll like just sit there and listen to you and he doesn’t need you because he’s [ __ ] Jay Cutler yeah yeah so it’s like wow like wow dude you’re talking to me he’s like yeah I am anyway like are you eating
Your meal dude you know he kep asking me getting your calories in like what’s your dreams dude and I was just wow man this is so nice and then I met Joe Andrews today I worked out with him such a cool genuine dude and I’m like you
Know what today I just realized it I was like you know La isn’t isn’t bad it’s just you got to find your your tribe like you said you find your people they’re out there and what I’m learning is it’s okay to be alone to stick to
With yourself you know in a crowd for of people like because your worth your time is worth so much more than just like a cheap conversation or a cheap you know like like you someone’s like let’s go out you’re like yeah sure let’s go but
You don’t want to go out your time your peace is worth so much more than that dude and just finding those people that will respect your wishes and your thoughts is just so much so just great I think that’s powerful I have found a lot of amazing people in the fitness
Industry too though like sure you remember like us having fun at like the young event and the young party too like I really do like a lot of the people on her team and it’s kind of a surprise to me if I’m going to be real like I understand first impressions are real
And I have those too you know it’s hard for me to detach from those so but a lot of the people um we have on our team like they’re real ass [ __ ] yeah and I think a lot of times like maybe people might feel like like a little bit suspicious of
Being taken advantage of and all these things but the way that I look at it is we all especially in a place where we’re really trying to continue to climb and in a place in a community in a a modern age like today where social media has
Taken over um our like our wants because of our like intenses and intense searches for dopamine and acquiring more it’s hard to feel like we have enough time yeah and the biggest currency that we have these days unless you are really struggling for money tends to be your
Time MH so if there’s a lot of people asking for your time if you have millions of followers and there’s all these people asking for your time you have to choose you have to choose and so I think it’s it’s important for for us to try and not take things
Personally because sometimes it has nothing to do with you it’s just maybe someone just genuinely is so overwhelmed that they don’t have like it’s really difficult for them to make the time you know yeah and I think it’s it’s hard to it’s hard to it’s hard to sit with those
Things but if you can really just understand you know I think it makes things a little bit easier yes damn what what did you know what Sean means isn’t it like gift of God or something yeah God is gracious God is oh my God that’s dope as hell God is gracious and then
There’s a one that says gift of gift from God too God is so gracious dude that gives me chills it just goes into the story of my my upbringing bro you know I just go into it man I just um like I was I grew up in a family of six
So I have five brothers and sisters yeah my mom uh my dad was never there dude he was an alcoholic you know and uh from what I remember we grew up in Rochester which was you know Rochester New York we lived in the South wedge um the very
Poor neighborhood you know um I just remember like small Snippets of things like just like we used to play with uh the cockroaches in our house like we would sit on the kitchen table oh [ __ ] then watch them come out and then flip the switch on and just watch them Scurry
We used to do that for fun bro that’s crazy but that we didn’t know any better you know what I mean my my mom used to make spiders fight on sticks when they were in the Philippines dude then that’s actually how did she get them on stairs
I don’t know crazy that been crazy like make like a whole edit out of it spiders fighting but like Yeah man so that was that that’s basically like the moral of story is like my dad wasn’t there my mom was trying her best to you know um like
Support us uh that you know my dad was like you know pretty cool dude as far as I remember but I just know that he would get like super violent sometimes and I have like memories of him like beating my sisters like he never would touch us
Kids like boys like he would spank us but he was so violent to my sisters and my mom like women in general it was terrible and then like he would like throw my mom like down the stairs like all the time and they would yell and
Cops would D mean cops were like our neighbors dude they would come all the time but as a kid I didn’t really know any better dude so like bro what’s [ __ ] up is like we’d go to grocery stores and I would steal but I was like
In first grade I didn’t know what I was doing it was just like it seemed like it was just okay to do mhm and I ended up like that was in my like that was like part of me like like stealing I ended up stealing money from like babysitters and
I was like dude I was a kid I didn’t know any better you know what I’m saying you know my sister because of the abuse between her and my dad um ended up like like sexually like abusing me when I was like you know like before I don’t even know exactly how old
I was but I wasn’t in second grade yet and I remember like I being so scared because it was my fault and um like like she would like say oh you got to do it again because it I’m just going to you know tell them you it’s your
Fault and like I would felt like really guilty about that and I always like thought like now I think about I’m like why does this stuff happen to me and like even just like when I a couple months go by we lived in a really bad neighborhood and like we had this really
Strange thing happen where the neighbors across the street had it like this girl and they we set up like tiki torches you know what those are tiki torches they’re like these sticks of bamboo with like a candle on top we pulled a mattress out into my neighbor’s backyard and we stuck
Up these teachy torches like around the B the backyard this girl would like just I don’t know what we were doing dude but she hopped on top of me and was like riding me and like in front of all my friends it was just so strange dude and so like
My like I didn’t have a normal childhood at all and that was like before I even was in second grade like I’ll say that again but like I didn’t think anything of it it was just like I didn’t tell anyone that actually until I was like 7
18 17 18 I wrote a letter telling my mom what happened when I was a kid and I hid it in her her drawer in her office drawer that maybe W day she’d find it and I wouldn’t have to tell her CU I was so scared to tell her and but she never
Found it so um you know as time goes on man like my mom has got like five kids she doesn’t have time for us she she stole us all away from my dad in Rochester and we moved to Syracuse New York and in Syracuse New York we were in the we were
In the sticks we were in the country and um it was like so new CU we came from the city but I loved it man like I remember like we just kind of appeared at this house and it had this giant Woods in the back and I’d spend hours
Like running in the woods and just exploring my imagination would just go crazy you know it was like my my place man but you know I was in high school had a you know we were we were very poor but I never really thought about it you
Know I never really compared myself to anyone else it was just what it was you know um and so like you know second grade third fourth fifth sixth seventh and then eighth grade when I got into like high school I started to see like man my clothes are like really like
Dirty and dingy and these guys have like new shoes all the time and like they look nice and the girls are pretty and it’s just like I felt like such a bum I was embarrassed to like bring anyone over to my house cuz it was just so
Dirty and like I felt like like we were just less than you know my whole life I felt like I was just less than everyone so like I would like kind of act out in school you know be like super like loud and Class Clown act stupid in
Class just for like laughs and for attention you know but you know I ended up like uh my mom was constantly moving around so like we moved to Albany and uh went to a new high school there but like I just missed my friends
Dude like I missed like not we went to a big school now and it was like everyone was like way bigger than me and like you I was just like super intimidated you know I was really really intimidated I went for like two months um and then I actually moved out man I
Moved out of my house when I was 16 I moved back to Syracuse and I tried to like staying at my friend’s house L like sleeping on his couch trying to like go back to that same high school but they needed like ownership of me my mom had
To sign like some kind of document to say that like they can kind of have me but she wouldn’t do that and so I wasn’t going to school you know was like ninth grade and um like the neighbor had like a lot of money rich rich neighbor and and I didn’t have
Anything you know I didn’t have school didn’t have anything I was like smoking weed at the time so I robbed him of his like money went into his house one day I took his money like he had like money on a table kitchen table or some [ __ ] in an
Envelope I went back to my house and I just put in my drawer just something dude and they found out that he was like he was like oh I’m missing money you know and they went in my drawer they took it out and they saw it was me and
They kicked me out and uh I had my older sister at the time living in you know in Rochester where we where we grew up so I just hit her up I was like Hey like I don’t have anywhere to go can I come stay with you for a little bit so I
Ended up like living there with her she was that was the same sister that abused me by the way and um so it’s was like Last Resort you know but she was uh doing drugs like she was just like she’s uh how old is she now I think she’s like
Eight years older than me you know so she was like like you know way more mature but she we she was working at a restaurant waitressing I got a job as a bus boy you know just trying to make some cash she ended up like influencing me to
Like do drugs uh I started smoking weed a lot I started doing Aderall I mean I was 16 bro started doing Ates you know and we just you know the neighbors across the street they were drug dealers had tons of weed so like you know I just got into like got
Into that kind of stuff but like eventually like I saw this guy had way more than me so I’d go and break into his house to steal his weed you know and the cops would come you know i’ be like [ __ ] I think I saw him run that way you know like kind
Of like really slimy stuff dude and it kind of just like continued to go down this dark path where I was abusing drugs my friends were I graduating from high school and I was just a bum I was smoking sigs you know my my my physique my frame just continued to like diminish
Dude like I was like severely addicted to drugs by the time I was 18 you know I was doing I was doing heroin was doing tons of cocaine Molly Ecstasy you know perks popping them all the time dude and I was just continually like robbing people that was like my way to live
That’s like the way I knew how to live that the only way I can get something so like being alone was like you know was like was like really hard for me to sit with my thoughts cuz I didn’t even know who I was anymore didn’t know who I was
Anymore dude I met my friend I lived with my friend he was like a upcoming music artist in New York and uh we had uh like this kind of like house was like a trap house I guess you could say and I was like living there I see I think I
Had like a bed or some [ __ ] a lot lot of things I can barely remember man was living there we got kicked out the landlord came by he was like there’s too many people in here y’all need to go so me and my brother I call my brother the
Music artist his name’s cim Burks um we uh we ended up being homeless you know we ended up like trying to find a way like a rap game way to come up in the game make money he was trying to make music I was trying to sell
Drugs um we moved to Geneva we were in Geneva cuz he knew people out there but we didn’t have anywhere to sleep we were like sleeping in this baseball Dugout like the um you know where people make the announcements in this like shed so I was sleeping there for a few
Days um still had perks on me you know I still had like you know Xanax and stuff so I was taking those uh one night we talked and we’re like yo we need money dude and I was like I know he’s like we need to go out we need to go rob
Somebody you know tonight so we went out and I saw this couple walking and so I had like this little small knife you know and I robbed them and then I felt terrible in the moment so I was like you know what here just take your [ __ ] back
And go the next day wearing the same clothes cuz I didn’t have any clothes I went to the basketball court we meet up with those homies and they [ __ ] jumped my ass bro cuz I robbed their brother that was their brother I robbed oh [ __ ] and I got so [ __ ] up my lip
Was busted you know they were [ __ ] my they were [ __ ] me up man this black lady comes out of nowhere I swear to this day I think she was an angel and she grabbed me and she brought me to the hospital I got stitched up after that I
Was like my friend I watched my friend while I was getting beat up he was just standing back not doing anything so I stopped talking to him like like you were just like you were just on the ground and then this this lady came in yeah yeah she literally picked me up and
She said get your hands off my baby oh [ __ ] and she grabbed me brought me to her car wow yeah and random stranger dude didn’t know who she was all I know is she just dropped me off of the hospital so it was amazing and I mean bad decisions after bad decisions man
Like I I went went to stay with my dad I wanted to see like that was the last there another you know someone else I haven’t stayed with and he had a new wife he had two new kids and he was doing the same thing to
Them as he was doing to me my family and that broke me so I mean after that I mean it was just like went back to my mom’s I tried to go back to my mom’s she wouldn’t have me in the house she wouldn’t let let me in man so I was
Like you know be begging sleeping outside you know I was like really just like [ __ ] up dude and until this day like I I will never tell this to her I will never bring this up to her cuz we all go through things man she was
Just trying to do the best thing that she knew how to do you know she didn’t want me being around her or the family but as things go you know played out she got an apartment she let me live in there um and uh we went to Abu Dhabi I mean
That was just like a chapter of my life that I’ll just throw in there from 18 to like 19 and a half 20 we lived in the Middle East cuz she found a job nothing really happened up there I still wasn’t going to school I tried to go back to
School I just didn’t work but when we came back that’s when things got really bad we had the apartment I was talking about and my friends had all grown up they all graduated they had cars from high school we were in Syracuse at this time and uh so they were already set you
Know they some of them were going to college you know college parties you know they had connects now they had drugs now they had ways to get it they were you know a little bit more into what I was into and uh so it just kind
Of like doubled down and it got really really bad um I met these people uh I lived really close to the reservation Native American reservation cops aren’t allowed to go there so you know we did a lot of things on the reservation that I won’t I don’t want to talk about um
Because of you know legal reasons but we did a lot of things on the reservation off the reservation I was you know when I was talking about drugs it was uh it continued you know who were you with on the reservation my my the chief’s grandson you know his grandson so it was
My best friend from high school okay yeah so he had like you know full he knew all the people on there um how old were you at this time I was like 19 when when I got back um so the next two years I’m like 19 and then 20 uh I was just
You know still doing the same old things I got you know I got a little charge I got a break and entering charge cuz I continued to like you know Rob and stuff like that man I was so broken man man I was so broken I was hurt and I was like
I would get drunk and just cry bro because I didn’t know how to express myself I’d beat my brother up Samuel Jizzy I’d beat him up I call him a [ __ ] I told my call my mom and just like I would just like totally be like
[ __ ] you because I was just angry and that’s how I like had to protect myself I put anger on cuz I didn’t know what life was about bro all I knew was this pain and just like struggle I was like this is what it is I got to be hard I
Got to like [ __ ] prove myself all the time and one day I was smoking a blunt dude I was I’m walking on my way to the trap house and I heard this voice in my head and it said to me it said what are you going to do when the trumpet calls
And I was like I was like what what that you know like cuz like in my in like the way my mom raised me was a Christian when the trumpet called is the last time but it’s like what happens before Jesus breaks through the clouds and comes back the Angels play
This trumpet the sky opens up and he comes on you know with a white horse so in my faith I believe I was like are they saying like before I before he comes back or before I die what is like what’s going to happen in my soul so I
Was like I have no idea right now and I don’t have like the capacity to answer that so I went back to the trap house and I was like well we need to smoke bro like like I was paranoid this it talked to me again same question what are you
Gonna do when the trumpet calls I like I was like okay I gotta go I’m gonna go home so I started walking home and I started to think about my life like I was just think about everything I was like I used to be good at sports CU I
Really was in ninth grade dude I was ineligible like I barely play any sports cuz my grades were so bad but I was on like varsity football in ninth grade you know I was playing on a varsity team like I was like sick at lacrosse like I
Was like really really a athletic and I now I was looking at myself now I’m smoking a cigarette dude I’m like skinny as hell you know was like 170 lbs and I still thought I could beat anyone up you know it was just like ego but I knew
That was just like a like I was just a shadow I wasn’t real like I wasn’t like my real self man so I was like man what happened to me like like what can I do right now like I I I I want to do
Better and I was 20 when I was thinking about these things my friends got the cars they got they are successful uccessful and I’m just a bum and everyone hated me in my neighborhood everyone knew that I was like going to end up in jail or dead no
One really cared about me so I was like I need to go I need to get help and my mom was like you need to go to this rehab and I was like why she’s like well because you’re going to [ __ ] die and I was like I know I don’t care because I
Didn’t but the same time I did I was like there’s that question like what if I could change dude what if I could change my life and so I tried dude I called them and I was like yo like what’s this all about and they’re like it’s a 14-month impatient rehab there’s
No phones there’s no outside connection and it’s a Christian rehab and the only reason why I went is because it was because I thought maybe I could find God cuz I said Christian I was like God that maybe I need that and uh I think I left the next day
Or like maybe like couple days after I just th threw all my [ __ ] in a trash bag um um you know my mom walked me to the train and I went to Buffalo New York I showed up with 200 bucks in my pocket I said this is all I got through my trash
Bag like in his office you know I just stood there I was like you know here I am and um I had this dream that like I was walking up this stairwell and I saw these pictures on the wall and he’s like all right let me show you to the room
And so I was walking up the stairwell I looked to my left and it’s the same pictures I saw in my dream so I was like maybe I’m in the right place like I think I think this is it bro like I was excited and then in that place
Man I mean in that place man I’ve really like was the only time I’ve had like any kind of Peace man and it was all men it was like men from like age 18 to like 50 some of these 50y olds were in the rehab for like the 12th time they just
Couldn’t get it right and uh I’ll never forget it they used to have Chapel like twice a day like preaching Chapel it know small really small house we just go down to this Chapel it was more like a room this big black dude be up there just
Preaching his heart out oh God loves you I was I used to be a pimp a pro I had like you know I was a crackhead all this stuff and like he like did the same things if not worse than I did but he loved like God he loved him and I didn’t
Believe him I would just be watching I’m like yeah all right bro like whatever and uh one day he was like God loves you and like he just like felt like he was talking to me and that kind of like questioned like that made me like feel something so when everyone
Left I kind of sat down and I was like God like do you really love me and like for the first time in so long I just started to just ball you know just clean I wasn’t smoking cig I wasn’t drunk wasn’t high it was real tears you know
Like broken tears and I was just like sobbing I was like I need help dude like I’m here now like it’s so like I’m I’m okay I’m safe I can do this I can change and I was like I’m going to give my heart to God cuz it’s the only way I
Could have changed my character or find who I was because as the person I was before it was wasn’t me so like I started to like brush my teeth like three times a day I tried to do push-ups every day man I I couldn’t even do 10
Push-ups dude when I first got there I was so like [ __ ] up skinny crazy it was crazy I was like I think I had this like um just posted on Tik Tok my arms like I had my arms up like this it was like I was a skeleton
Bro and like you know I was in I did the whole 14 months and like throughout that whole time dude I like continued to like Purge my heart like my my hateful thoughts like sometimes I just be sitting down and just think about beating someone up and that was just
Like my normal mental patterns and I had to like kind of re like I had to change my way of thinking about everything and just learned that like you know I don’t deserve I don’t like I I didn’t deserve that but I don’t don’t deserve like good
Either I like I I the person I was like didn’t deserve you know to be I don’t know man but I called up all the people I hurt and all the girls that I like slept with cuz I felt so guilty I called them and I said I was sorry tried to make
Amends with my past but then I had a got a phone call and uh the chief son before I left to rehab uh I saw him and I was like yo I’m going to rehab I looked him in his eyes and he was like super like he’s like sad I saw his like
Soul he’s just like he needed help too dude but I was too scared to ask him to go because it was a Christian rehab and I was like I got to go and he was like I love you bro like I’ll be here when you get out so I got that
Phone call and I uh I learned that he like killed himself like shot himself in the head yeah so he was like off of like he was off of like uh mushrooms and like he was tripping and then he just killed himself dude
So I had to sit with that you know so I was like yeah so I had to do it I had to be better I had to changeed my life for him and for me and now all those people that knew me back then they can’t believe the person that
They’re looking at now man cuz wasn’t for God I wouldn’t be here or be the person that I am so that’s why it means so much to me like when when I catch myself riding through La going to Young La shoots you know meeting guys like you and Jay Cutler and
These these Great Men it’s like man like it’s possible bro like I like it’s possible for anyone you know I appreciate it that’s why I appreciate life cuz like I don’t really don’t even know how I got here dude all I know is just like just keep trying my best you know that’s
All I could do educate myself where I can so that’s pretty much it man that’s like pretty much how I got here I got out of the rehab went to the military CU I needed I couldn’t go back to New York I needed structure so I went
To the military and it’s been about four years now I’m getting out in 120 days Jo days baby they gave me the orders dude yeah yeah so I’m out man it’s new chapter it’s like a we’re just we’re just life is just [ __ ] chapters it’s a new chapter for me yeah so
Excited yeah man that’s powerful bro that’s [ __ ] crazy that’s [ __ ] nuts you excited to to get out of the military how was how was the military for you military was so cool dude loved it I loved it you know mhm just serving the country I used to hate the
Government obviously cops and that stuff but but I but when I was in rehab I was like you know what like actually I want to help people you know I want to do I want to help people man so the Coast Guard is like a life- saving service so
I was like dude let me try to like save some lives or some cool stuff I was in I was a body Bearer uh my first unit so basically what we did for work which is so dope is uh we would show up to work we’ drill we’d like carry C
Fold Flags you know practice like the routine for like a burial and then we go hit the gym uh oh night that was it that was a whole day bro yeah and like and we did that for two years so I was just like I they told
Me when I first reported to that unit they’re like you’re going to be a body Bearer you have a test in two days the test was this you couldn’t show facial emotion and you could only breathe out of your nose and so it was 30 seconds between each exercise so the first one
Was Bench 225 for 10 the next one was uh 75 lb dumbbells you know presses for 10 the second one was squat I think it was like 275 for 10 the third was like 37 deadlift 375 for 10 and then you had to go outside and then you had to carry 100
Lb dumbbells like the gym across the gym in back and then you had to it’s like this side carry with like uh 135 lbs like you’re holding the C basket and you had to like walk down the gym and back switch hands and then at the very end
You had to curl the curl it and then press it over your head like would a c [ __ ] but you couldn’t even breathe you couldn’t show emotion and dude I passed I passed I don’t know how I passed cuz I was not like in the G like I was in the
Gym but like these guys were were huge behemoths dude M and like while I was like while I passed they’re like all right cool like initi ation time straight up like a like a fraternity like we would we after work we just like drink all the time it was so cool they
Were like great dudes you know and um but it was just such a cool Brotherhood you know we like we joke around but when it was time to like carry a casket and like show honors to the family like we locked it in and we really felt for them
You know what I mean so it’s was just like such a cool honor to to do that I did that for two years saw you know Trump and Biden I was there for Biden’s inauguration and I was there for uh Trump’s signing of the space force which
Was dope made it on the news it was pretty cool but um you know my next unit I was in the aviation maintenance technician um I passed my asbab with like you know pretty good scores and then uh so I was able to do like Aviation MH and uh which was fun it
Was a lot of work like being a mechanic I didn’t know anything about tools so I had to learn all that stuff but it was dope and I wanted to be a rescue swimmer though I didn’t want to be a mechanic the school was just so hard it was like
Navy SEAL training it’s like I swam to the the pool with the swimmers once just to see if I could do it um to warm up was a 500 meter swim just a warmup you know Jesus an Olympic pool too and then I did like over unders swim underneath
The whole pool under come up and then swim back do it again like bro like it was like a two-hour workout and that was that was just like the beginning that was my least favorite sport as a kid I would just drink water the entire SS bro
Like and that point I was like yeah I can’t do this bro and I had my I had my ex-girlfriend with me living with me at the time so it just was like super stressful we single now baby [ __ ] oh [ __ ] uh dude I uh no [ __ ] wonder you got the craziest
Workouts yeah it makes a lot of sense though no it does no that’s not from them it was from this the guy in rehab that I met this dude was an ex-marine and I was telling Joe this he’s like he’s like why do you how do you like
Where did you start working out like this because this guy I was doing calisthetics for like six months while I was in there I was pushing up like pull-up sit-ups like running a lot he’s like bro get in the gym and I was like no man I don’t like those guys man
They’re all full of themselves like they suck he’s like dude just check it out try it you have a great frame maybe you could be like you know maybe like you could be huge bro you could be jacked and like I went in the gym dude we were
Doing Chess Day first day he picked up 90 lb dumbbells put them in on on me like this he’s like lift it up oh I couldn’t lift bro there’s no way I was just getting started and like I could probably do like the 50s maybe 45s the
Time and he was like we’re going to be in here until you could pick up them 90s whoa that’s some David goggin [ __ ] yeah and so we trained and trained every day and he would push me so hard dude he was he was like not all there and he would
Just push me so damn hard I thought that’s how everyone worked out yeah and when I got out I realized that everyone trains like [ __ ] and you know I was just like you know giving it 100% just because of that dude I got to give him
Shout out Brian Reed thank you so much for training me teach me how to lift cuz yeah man it was that dude he did that they a know me son yeah they know me son [ __ ] yeah bro it’s crazy so now it’s kind of funny now I pick up 90s I just
Think about that time every time like I touch a 90 pound if I’m doing like shoulder presses or rows I’m like this is where it started bro yeah you know what I mean that’s insane that’s a crazy [ __ ] Journey dude we’ll get right back to the podcast in a second but I
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Nile for a discount off of young La clothing or huge supplements thank you guys again so much we’ll be right back to the podcast also also Michael also means who is like God or a gift of gift from God who is like God question mark yeah or gift from God
So both of your names God crazy it’s crazy it is crazy God is gracious especially with your [ __ ] story bro yeah God is gracious my mom is a super super Filipino so I grew up like a hardcore Catholic she like prayed the rosary like every day
Went to church like once or twice a week so I grew up with that and um there was a period of time where I was very like I was in the praise and worship band way playing piano and playing guitar and like singing and worship band and all
This [ __ ] I also I also played piano for my choir uh for my church choir for like the first um from like when I was like N 9 years old or something up till I was 15 and then I left something like left to do
Some hood rat [ __ ] to do some Hood R sh my friends yeah yeah and then I got suspended from high school for being caught with a girl in the public restroom and my mom spent the next three three months crying oh my goodness yeah in school dude I Liv there
Oh that’s right you did live there it was a dorm was she hot she was emo as [ __ ] she was the emo PR school I I was I was always dressed up in prep clothes cuz my parents were uh they care about honor and they care about looking good and they care about
Like what you look like and how much money you look like you have so that’s how they dress me up but on the inside I always listen to alternative music rock metal just hardcore [ __ ] um I used to get these hoodies that had like [ __ ]
Holes in the thumbs cuz I was thought it was this I don’t know my all my best friends were like my best friend was um he was a kid that was into anime introduced me into a lot of anime and he uh his parents had nothing his mom was
Just an artist uh they were divorced my other best friend middle school he was like the skater he also only had a mom and he didn’t have anything else I think maybe he had one more sibling didn’t have any money and every time I had these best friends my parents would not
Let me hang out with them cuz they’re like these guys are yeah my mom was so judgmental like the most like nothing against my P parents I love my parents um and I still choose to go visit them for Christmas but um just relaying my experience from our past
That’s how it was you know and it’s a culture you know I can’t blame anybody it’s just it’s it’s it’s very common in especially Asian culture and she lived there you know she was born there right yeah so I’m sure it’s a whole lot my were from the Philippines yeah and I’m
I’m pretty sure also like they seem kind of more of like the East Asian type of Filipinos too especially my dad so I can understand how the families got that kind of yeah culture going on but yeah I guess that’s it’s a weird thing it’s
Just I don’t know I don’t know what my point of that is but it is just a correlation I’ve noticed that like all my best friends my whole life have kind of been similar but not like me you know what I mean yeah yeah I think I just
Admire like the [ __ ] you guys have been through and I don’t know maybe I’m just tired of tired of judgmental maybe that could be it too yeah maybe it’s just like almost like a feeling you know mhm it’s kind of funny how you just keep gravitating toward these kind of people
Mhm but maybe it’s just something that like you would just like earn almost like a badge or like a stripe when you go through those things is like you you know this guy’s not going to judge you why I don’t know just kind of know M cuz
You get to know that person you’re like oh yeah he’s been through [ __ ] that’s why I was like make mistakes got to make mistakes dude you have to cuz that’s like the only way you can really tell a story right but I’m not saying go out
There and do dumb [ __ ] I’m just saying like be yourself and I think you’ve done that I think like you’ve done that 100% I made a lot of mistakes for sure and like your yourself 100% man podcast bro I mean it doesn’t get any more vulnerable than this conversations and
Stories and things like that so thanks bro yeah bro but um I was literally thinking though the amount of [ __ ] and lifting that you went through yeah all right I got to [ __ ] I got to we got we got to talk about this what all right you going
To put do like some like constellation yeah I’m put you on I’m going to put you on the spot real quick [ __ ] Sean are you Natty or not bro I’m a lifetime yeah you think I got time or [ __ ] know anything about that stuff by now no yeah I know like going through
Rehab and stuff like that I feel like I feel like this [ __ ] would be a last [ __ ] on your mind I go back to getting needles and [ __ ] in yet yeah no and I’ve never even like I just snorted I never even I don’t think I ever touched
A single needle in my life like for drugs just snort everything he just snort everything smoke it smoke or snort okay gotcha yeah but yeah yes to that in lifetime natural yeah I mean what else could you [ __ ] say you know right hand on the Bible on my mom put it you
Know put it on whatever you want I want to tell all right so this is for the for everyone watching and listening M I can understand and how you guys think that he’s not natural and I got to be real with you bro the first time I saw you I
Think it was on I think it was on Marcus’s page or something or real and my old videographer Ian also sent me a video of you and uh I don’t remember what the video was uh I think it was something about your natural status and
When I saw that I was just like ah yeah [ __ ] right bro yeah okay Nat sure but then um Marcus was like honestly bro like At first I didn’t think it was Natty either but then I me him in person and I realized like like there’s nothing about his physique that
Like says like like I’m on Trend or I’m on I’m on like I’m on Maston or something or like there’s no like hardening like like you can normally tell right like there’s something about like with the natural physique you normally have like a little bit more of
A softness to it yeah regardless of whether it’s full or dry there’s a little bit more of a softness to it there’s not those 3D muscle bellies but he was also saying that like I think one of the things that makes your physique is your arms oh yeah your arms are
[ __ ] massive and I was thinking about this too and the thing is like we all know that genetics play a huge Factor mhm however I’m going to have I have another argument that I I think that I feel for you as well cuz you had even
Though you had those years in uh like years through 16 through 20 years old you’ve had a lot of years as an athlete yes yeah and muscle muscle like I truly believe in muscle memory being a real thing but you look at genetics and all these people around like even like I
Feel like even Josh manoy is more sus as a Natty than you are to be honest the hispanic guy he’s not Hispanic he’s like he’s like 43% black and my boy that was too I look at his pictures and I’m like I got some [ __ ] work to do as a
Natural like yeah bro I’m not [ __ ] natural and I look at this guy I got some work to do like how do your biceps look like that bro seriously yeah but I think that’s one of the things that like makes y’all’s physique so [ __ ] crazy like you guys got those arms those arms
Like scream size they scream size and out of all the people like like when you’re like swiping on Instagram do we ever like come across like a chick that just has massive [ __ ] legs like very rarely like rarely but like that happens right and you’re like she’s using [ __ ]
Yeah you probably like think that she’s using [ __ ] but I’ve seen some girls that just like they just like genetically have this tiny waist but then they just got everything is just on their butt and their thighs yeah just everything it’s [ __ ] massive and like they got the
Skinniest arms even if they lift yeah and it’s like sometimes you just have those genetics for either like just big ass arms or just like big ass legs and then you can’t grow the other you know sometimes that just happens you know what I mean and I some of these girls
That I’ve seen with like these big ass legs some of these girls are definitely like not on steroids they just like they just like that they just carry their muscle and their fat there you know and like why can’t that be true with guys too you know especially a dude who
Like works out and I [ __ ] know you work out bro cuz I’ve worked out with both you and Josh and I haven’t worked out with anyone else that’s worked out harder than you guys especially when you do arm day no just kill it you [ __ ]
You kill arm day bro like people like I said like at the uh the black party meet and greet U meet and greet they asked me like what’s your split and I was like I chased the pump and people are like oh he’s [ __ ] hella volume he’s using
[ __ ] no [ __ ] I just go from one set to the next I’m not thinking about who’s texting my phone I’m not thinking about what the [ __ ] I’m going to eat after this I’m like my bicep could use more I like more PE like tricep needs
Work dude I’m in the lab I’m chasing it you know like and I feel like it just depends on like how you work out man I really do think so it’s like yeah you got science Bas lifters you know they’re pretty B big you know I’ve seen a few
Big ones I don’t see no pumps dude you know I I don’t see I don’t in the gym I’m like I’m not like damn good control Bro Look at you’re [ __ ] huge I’m like where’s the PMP obviously it’s got it makes sense like you gain muscle from
Science B lifting but the way that I’ve done it the way that I was taught to do it by that Marine was you [ __ ] give it at your all and whatever happens you know happens but you got to hit them 90s soon dude mhm and so it’s just like that
Hunger that I got to grow like that’s all I ever really care about never ever I mean in this industry was I ever concerned that someone was going to think that I wasn’t natural I had no idea like until I was like all double bicep and people were like [ __ ] this
Dude’s arms are huge I’m like oh thanks bro I just never really would like thought my physique was impressive and then like you’re saying it’s just my arms which is true Jay Cutler told me at dinner yesterday like bro you got to skip arm day he’s like you got to stop
Doing arms bro like he’s like he’s like it’s kind of overpowering your physique right now yeah and coming from Jay Cutler that [ __ ] hurt I was like all right man you’re right do some more back days stop doing arms the worst thing to tell bro honestly trying to kill me I’m
Going to be so depressed next few months well I mean like after watching you lift too though yeah like cuz I I don’t know everything I’m not particularly special I just I do like science cuz I guess it’s just comes from my background of like starting off as an
No starting off as an engineer and everything but um I uh the way that you train honestly to me looks literally just like you’re resting maybe a minute half 2 minute rests um when you do do your like you’re not throwing weight around yeah you have control yeah and then you
Just maybe you’ll super set stuff yep I mean honestly dude like even though you’re chasing the pump you’re still doing things optimally and here’s the thing about science based lifting is um and Renaissance per periodization Dr Mike Israel has talked about this too but a lot of people have talked about
This but when it comes to hypertrophy there’s actually a lot of different types of um ways that you can train for hypertrophy when it comes to strength there’s there’s a specific type you got to take long rests you got to do all this preparation beforehand you know you
Got to keep the Reps slow you don’t want to fatigue yourself over too much but when it comes to like getting big there’s a big big per iety of ways that you can train to continue to grow for example like Stan eing says 2 to 5 Seconds of an eccentric that’s a big
Range two to 5 seconds on Ecentric you could either go you could like [ __ ] hold it for a while you know and you’ll still incur uh at least for the res research that we know a similar amount of hypertrophy so honestly the way I see it
Is that we’re so used to just sticking to eight reps that the only ones that really change things is like like the bodybuilders that do pop on gear a lot of the coaches give them like like for example one of my days on my program is
My one of my weeks of my program is crazy he’s got me doing like 25 reps like maybe three sets of four exercises but every set is a drop set of another 25 smokes dude right isn’t that [ __ ] nuts wow that’s a lot so like I I
Definitely can’t push weight on that day for sure I’m pushing [ __ ] Brad Brad Martin up to me on this day with his [ __ ] camera and he’s like dude why are you doing [ __ ] weight no way bro get out of here he does he just messing
Around but I was just like the one time like [ __ ] have to explain myself but um uh I I I like I truly think that you have to have those days too we are our fibers our muscles are made of both slow twish and fast twish
Fibers if you’re always hitting 8 to 10 reps or 12 to 15 reps 12 to 15 isn’t very different from 8 to 10 and like the way I was training until I want to say 3 months ago I was I worked out had back day with Han H and what I’ve legendary
Bro BR it’s like I I revert back to that same set range everything we did I try to do it every back day now because my lats just weren’t growing for the longest time I just my back just sucks dude I didn’t know what I was doing
Wrong just so much rep and so much enthusiasm into my workouts that I was missing out on those eccentric on The Eccentric on the squeeze and like the the Mind muscle connection it’s so easy for me to find it like right here on the curls because I’m like I’m looking at it
I can touch it yeah but on the back it’s just it’s that much more harder so what I’ve been doing now is more of a science-based approach to my workouts doing a lot of slower reps especially for my back you know and I’m honestly I’ve been seeing some I feel like I’m a
Little more sore now when I when I work out like I like this switching of like the style of training I like to switch it my coach asks me every week uh I have to write down like a list and answer a list of questions one of the questions
Is how is your soreness this week and wow and I adapt if I do the same thing but he has me change every week and so every week I feel like a new stimulation of like when I’m in the high rep High rep week I was like holy [ __ ] I’m like
Really [ __ ] sore dude I’m really F I like can’t walk and then I’m like okay so I think I feel like the low rep days I don’t feel that soreness and then the high rep days I feel a lot more sore but then I did like that heavy leg day with
You yeah yeah when you spotted me and I was doing I did 47 well I wasn’t supposed to do the 4 55 for 4 whatever 460 right 405 plus 50 455 yeah four I wasn’t I wasn’t supposed to do it for four but I decided I wanted to do it
Anyways and then the rest of the workout I did eight reps and I was sore as [ __ ] was sore as [ __ ] damn it was crazy yeah we got that for like what like five reps four five reps it was four four yeah it was four I want to one day my goal is
One day someday is a rep out five plates eight reps that would be crazy that would be so sick I can see it though you got a you got nice legs bro thanks man no homo [ __ ] thanks bro I think like a gym bro who sees a guy who’s got nice
Legs you’re like [ __ ] like this guy goes hard dude well I’m like looking at everybody in the top of classic physique right now on the pro stage monsters right [ __ ] Ur Chris bumpstead what’s what’s his name uh [ __ ] Dino yeah yeah and they all have like I almost feel like legs are almost
Their strength especially Ur oh yeah yeah yeah crazy it’s crazy dude the hamstring scoop who yeah who’s your favorite what you say Bumstead everyone says [ __ ] Bumstead bro I think my favorite I hope people don’t rip me apart for this bro but I’m obsessed with
Dino dude do know BR he’s such a dog man you know second place runner up poor guy you know what I mean but his physique is so crazy to me bro he reminds me of uh I don’t know if some of these people watch my YouTube videos but um some of my
Videos used to be famous for me doing it with my boy Nathan we would just like we would just rib stuff and like talk about PDS and things but he uh this guy has like the biggest forearms just the biggest [ __ ] wrist he’s just big boned everywhere and he just has the
Genetics to be [ __ ] he has the genx to kill it but he’s one of those guys for example that like he did his first show ever and he had to run like a lot of compounds that is coach wanted him to run and afterwards he’s like this isn’t
For me like it’s not for my mental Heth like I felt miserable I was not happy like it’s it’s a real thing and I know like a lot of people like to argue like what’s easier like steroids or being Natty they’re two totally different totally totally different play fields’s
No way yeah I personally believe they’re both difficult in their own ways cuz it’s difficult for as a Natty cuz you’re small all the time bro right that’s why it’s hard yeah exactly [ __ ] yeah take steroids I mean you’re I feel like steroids harder cuz I don’t know if it
Was you oh it was uh it was my boy what’s his name dang forgot his name but he was telling me he took Tren before his show one time and he said he was battling demons dude in his mind right like it’s mental you know you’re paranoid like but Naturals don’t do go
Through anything like that you yeah like what yeah it’s like it’s like birth control for a girl I’m pretty sure birth control was actually derived from uh what is it Deca maybe oh [ __ ] yeah something like that yeah nelon from nelon yeah so it’s like taking birth control if your
If your hormones are out of wait so say birth control like is like a steroid birth control was derived from nalone for for women so um it’s that’s what some people have said may like they like try to correlate that to the reason why it’s like so [ __ ]
Bad for a woman and it makes their hormones all out of whack and then the girls will like like a different type of guy while they’re on it they’ll have a totally different type of Personality me bro my girl’s never taken [ __ ] birth control I know bro I’m never going to
Let my you only going to love me oh [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah dude but um yeah it’s two totally different worlds for sure like I think if you do take gear and you want to reach the top then you do have to do a lot of extra stuff and
Then you have to eat extra clean or else you might kill yourself slowly for the bad health things and then and then if you don’t take gear then you’re just not going to be as big but we got do we got we got to talk about gear another
Podcast bro I’m [ __ ] down like like what what your opinion I want to know what your opinion is on like these kids right now oh yeah we we’ll talk about that another time cuz I feel like that’s deep and you have like a good professional opinion about it too so
Thanks bro appreciate it I love to um I actually have never talked about this one thing ever to public I’ve only talked about it to my friends but I feel like saying it right now cuz I don’t know I like to get close with the people
Who who watch but I’m curious what you all’s thoughts are but I love talking about this stuff man cuz it’s just so interesting to me like I just love talking about like I just love talking about PDS and HRT and I just think it’s super fun cuz I feel like I’m Captain
America and I’m doing science projects so it’s super entertaining but the one thing that like and I know that a lot of my following really wants to see that cuz that’s how I built my YouTube following yeah but I just stopped doing it cuz I’m really scared about
What the ifbb might think if I’m trying to get to Mr Olympia someday you think they’ll like lash out on you cuz you’re trying to educate the people I don’t think they’ll lash out on me but like I have this weird feeling that like I I don’t want to say I believe in
Politics or anything cuz I think the ifpb is a great Association I’m I’m so glad that they exist but I’m just worried that like maybe they won’t want someone with a reputation that that’s associated with an illegal drugs you know what I’m saying I get to they don’t really come out and
Say what they’re on do they no no one that competes at the top ever really says anything like Chris plump that has only said like oh this is serious Yeah Yeah Chris Chris bumpstead has barely sent anything he just mentioned the fact that he’s not lying about it that he
That he’s on it that maybe he hasn’t run over 500 tests back in the day yeah I guess you know that’s so strange though like I don’t know I think I might hopefully it changes dude everyone knows about gear yeah everybody does why is it like this mystery like meat you know you
Got to like Google [ __ ] you got to talk to people should be way more like accessible bro if you take this these are the side effects and then you know you’re like oh [ __ ] like I’m going lose my hair possibly potentially doesn’t always happen mhm you know some people
Say it’s genetics some people say it’s Trend but I think it’s important for people to be educated about it like myself I’m not going to lie to you and be like yeah I’ve never thought about taking steroids yeah I have dude because I love lifting bodybuilding and it’s
Like all right so if I want to take steroids what like like like what does that look like or what do I take or you know what’s the side effects like like what should I expect and if I look for that on the internet I’m never going to
Find anything and like except for like you read like you know it’s not like person to person kind of saying like yo bro don’t do this this is what I think you should do you know and I feel like a lot of guys hopefully you know that are
Mature been Lifting for a while and are cons and concern and considering taking steroids they need someone to talk to them about it dude so I hope I hope that changes bro because if I ever wanted to hop on who would I call MH you know who
Do I have to talk to now I have you but before I before I didn’t have anyone I do think it is opening up cuz there are people like well actually I mean I’d say the only one really significant would probably be more plates more dates yeah
Yeah he’s so he’s so he’s so in depth that it goes above all our heads yes bro know what he’s saying the time sometimes we get on business calls and I’m like Derek you got to dial it down bro talk to me like a uh like a mead bro cuz you
You’re losing me man yeah but um I it would I think it would be nice if I don’t think there’s anyone that’s like an athlete that talks about it I think it’s everyone who who’s been in everyone who Marcus does it sometimes Marcus tries oh Mar Marcus does Marcus 100% talks about
It yeah he’s probably the one person I’d say that like competes and talks about it for sure I think that’s why he and I like we’ve done a lot of content together and this my boy back in San Diego when we live there so yeah yeah
That’s the homie I don’t know I guess we’ll see see what happens I’m just going to are you are you going to do a show anytime soon or planning this coming summer okay I wanted I wanted to have a whole year of bulking first and it’s been about six months wait you’re
Bulking this week is going to be half a year bro this coming week that’s going to be insane bro I can’t wait to see that dude can’t wait to see the shreds I appreciate it man going to be awesome I missed the shreds dude cuz I don’t think
I’ve been known for anything else other than just being shredded M so it’s been a little weird to create content for the last half a year I hear you I’ve had some weird content bloaty content yeah bloaty content that I think people are really that interested I’m excited we’ll
See how it goes I just I wanted big delts and now that I see you and Josh now I just want big arms so um we going to change change it up a little bit so that way we can like um slowly wrap this up a little bit plus
If you’re down I kind of I am kind of curious I kind of want to ask you some of these questions that the audience asked too like some of them are kind of funny okay if you uh if you could choose five exercises that you could do for the
Rest of your life what would they be I stole this from for a fact I did sto I did steal this from Chris Williams and he does 10 exercises he has Chris BS said this yeah I did I didn’t see that so I’m just going to give you like raw
Raw you know I’m just going to do incline chest press um it could be dumbbell does it have to be barbell to spec I’ll probably do barbell incline barbell CH press I’ll do squat um I will do uh like a pullup or a lat pull down you know
Um okay so we got that one chest we just need arms so okay so these are the two I’d probably do for arms I do um What’s this called where it’s like you like this the overhead tricep extension yeah I do the overhead tricep extension with a dumbbell nice and then I would
Do Straight bar curls nice yeah yeah it’s kind of crazy bro I would like like really highly agree with you yeah like I’m sure maybe one exercise would be different for me but what what would that one be well I would have to think about it because I think I I think I
Would try to figure out something for hamstrings oh yeah and try to insert that in there somehow that’s a good point yeah squat doesn’t really hit the hammies like that yeah not not directly but those are some [ __ ] effective exercises like squat Foundation um what else did you say inclin chest inclin
Chest I like how you put the bar there even though it’s a weird movement for me like I I have this weird Obsession of wanting to get back to barbell just cuz just cuz everyone loves the bench it’s [ __ ] sick to PL on each each side plus incline I think upper chest is
Probably one of the hardest things for you to grow so I think incline’s a great choice what else did you say um pull-ups or Downs yeah so uh Dr Mike Israel Renaissance periodization Jeff n also mentioned this and there’s some studies on it honestly best exercise for you to
Just hit lats as a to Progressive overload with lats MH is the pull-up the medium grip to wide grip pull-up dude and lat pull down is that variation you know yeah so um that’s what Jay Cutler told me yeah yeah I’m going to start doing pull-ups a lot more now he’s like
You want with pull-ups yeah and I was like [ __ ] the one thing I hate doing no wonder why I’m not growing and then um I totally agree with you with the arm exercises too because this is my science-based lifter sh back out again but stretch me mediated hypertrophy
Right that’s any position that you put your muscles at the most stretched position incurs the most hypertrophy except for some muscles like the lats the lats doesn’t but um like so tricep extensions you want to put your arm overhead and that’s going to incur a little bit more hyper hypertrophy and
Muscle growth and if you had them by your sides just like a little bit Yeah so I would do the overhead too and then um I think I think barbell and easy bar curls in a certain study incurred a little bit I think it was a little bit more um
Engagement or activation than dumbbell curls for some reason I think it’s because of the way that your wrists are cuz there’s no when you Cur a dumbbell sometimes you hit the peak like this uhhuh versus when you’re on a barbell you really can’t bend the bar you’re all
The way your palms are already faced up see that’s what I would have thought of but what they said and there was another thing in either this study or a separate study they said you don’t actually work your is this the Bre Bre right you don’t
Work this out with hammer curls you work it out with reverse curls and apparently hammer curls and um uh suben wait no pronated sub yeah hammer curls and subed curls hit or at least engage this the same which was mind-blowing to me cuz I was just like oh I want to hit hammer
Curls to like hit this but I guess it was I guess you should actually just probably do like a reverse easy bar curl or something for those so that’s why I’m thinking like maybe it Act activates maybe the barbell activates the bicep more because something about it being a
Strict position that you have to hold so when you come up here maybe I don’t know if you’re engaging some like horizontal forces to help you pop that up engages the bicep I don’t know bro I’m just [ __ ] you make me want to work out right now
Dude let’s go hit some arms let’s go dude that’s why I quit my job is like working as a 9 to5 I just listen to bodybuilding podcast all day and just like waited for 5:00 p.m. so I could just go to the [ __ ] gym day there
Sick that’s so sick sounds like how you guys were in the military yes bro yes all right if you had three descriptive things to tell someone to help them become the most jacked person alive what would they be food I mean it sounds so lame food sleep and intensity
Bro yeah that’s just what it like I mean it just sucks I wish I could give you like some secret formula right that’s really all it is dude I mean I wish I could throw time in there too but yeah food food I’d say sleep and intensity
Yeah that’s another thing I I don’t think I really talked about that earlier but I feel like my argument for why like I like yeah you’re my boy so I’m sure I could be totally biased as well but my argument for I I actually I told my
Videographer this before I met you I think I told him that I actually think that you could be Natty um and uh like you’ve had all these years under your belt of like doing Sports yeah and the people I know who are the most athletic and have the most that are the most
Jacked and like I [ __ ] bring her up even Lexi like Lexi was a cheerleader and a gymnast as a kid so it makes sense why her [ __ ] shoulders and her back are so [ __ ] ripped all the time gymnasts are built different bro yeah yeah so I think and I heard this from a
I heard this from a I heard this from some [ __ ] smartass scientist dude in some podcast love it in as all but this guy was saying um a lot of the things that you do as a as a kid will will really determine what you are like when you’re older like your
Physical capabilities as well and um it was on a podcast with uh the creator of Quest Nutrition um and the podcaster was like I hate hearing this right now cuz like I want to be able to make changes now but the fact that it matter is it’s almost
Like it’s almost like learning in like it’s almost like learning as well yeah like your actual physical capabil is like if you’re training in these areas as a kid then you’ll be a lot more capable and probably will help build like your final potential form later as
Well I think like uh what was I going to say yeah I like when people ask me for advice like yo I’m 16 or I’m 14 should I start bulking or should I hit the gym like bro just play some sports get into some sports cuz it’s
Like your body is not going to it’s not going to grow like you want it to grow it’s a bodybuilder build muscle until you’re like older you know I would say I would say you could have a physique but to like actually like I think like utilize like your body’s functions and
You know growth and all that stuff I feel like you’d have to wait till you’re older I mean I have biased because I didn’t start lifting seriously until I was like 21 like lifting seriously till you’re 21 yeah I I would work out what were all the sports that you did when
You were a kid though so when I started playing lacrosse I was in second grade um going into third it was just like this like super small little gym league thing but as soon as I got into high school which is like you know I think I
Paid Pop Warner and you know what pop warner is um it’s like uh peeee football so it’s like kids that are in like third fourth fifth sixth grade before high school they can go and play like football organized football so I was in Pop Warner for for him from like fourth
To sixth grade loved it dude I felt like I was like in the NFL you know cuz I had like two long Tigers dude and like was on a team I was a running back you know so it was fun that’s dope but not know
This I was in flag football so it’s like the same thing but you just have pads on and you’re just a bunch of kids oh I see I see it’s not real like it’s not real football dude trust me but when I got into like sixth grade I was like
Basketball you know and then when I like when I was like I was going between basketball and wrestling a lot like all like sixth seventh eighth bro I feel like wrestling makes you jacked dude so like I loved wrestling bro like I I was like I think I was undefeated until like
My ninth grade and I beat this one [ __ ] guy he made me quit wrestling cuz he beat me no dud I couldn’t beat him dude I was so I felt like I was so good and I met this guy and he just had this dog in him or some [ __ ] dude he he
Out dogged me he [ __ ] out dogged me dude and like it scared me bro so I quit I never wrestled again can’t believe that you let that [ __ ] you quit bro what the [ __ ] dude I mean I played football like all throughout High School like lacrosse wrestling and basketball yeah yeah that
Makes sense it’s literally like all the sports I would think of build some [ __ ] solid muscle mhm I do I do have a little argument though I I would argue that I would I would personally honestly tell the kids like to probably start lifting I mean if they if they if they
Had sports that they could go into then I’d tell them to go into the sports too but like if they maybe didn’t really have that opportunity or didn’t really want to I would tell them to start lifting cuz I do think that like building that muscle as a kid is really
Going to help you later wouldn’t hurt years no I think I think it’s only going to help unless you’re doing heavy heavy overhead presses and heavy heavy squats as you’re growing I think that might might stunt growth a little bit okay but aside from that [ __ ] then no I think
It’s only going to help you well then freaking like a lot yeah shoot then take his advice not mine I think I wish I wish I did start lifting bro when I was younger imagine like imagine what we would become if we were like if we had the same mindset
About like bodybuilding as we do now no seriously well I mean wow that would be a game I mean I did start lifting I started lifting when I was 12 uh but I was fat so you were fat I was fat yeah pull up a baby picture right now oh [ __ ]
It’s um it’s actually pinned on my uh Instagram yeah here oh [ __ ] let’s see holy [ __ ] dud you were bad [ __ ] you bro the white the polo with the white tea underneath bro yo I had I had plaid shorts on too holy CRA wow yeah dude my I was fat but
My parents put me in all these sports but I would just get fatter because I would like when my my parents weren’t when my mom was asleep or my parents were asleep cuz I was just so hungry all the time and I just like I had this
Weird like I didn’t have the signal that it was time to stop eating yeah so I would like go into the closets and like eat all my parents’ food like when they didn’t know and then um this one point when I was in Middle School I was just
Like so obsessed with food cuz it was the only way I could cope there was nothing else I had my parents didn’t let me play video games they didn’t let me out of the house they let me see friends they didn’t let me um watch tv they didn’t let me do anything that’s
Terrible um because uh they just wanted me to study and uh [ __ ] and like they put me in like everything they put me in like every sport I played six instruments I was in choir um I finished Boy Scouts with an eagle scout um [ __ ]
Dude and uh you know mom wanted me to be a doctor and engineer so honestly it’s pretty sick I I it’s a blessing I I see it as a blessing but I uh I think that’s why I’m just so happy to do what I do now and all my friends aren’t like me
It’s cuz I just I just yeah I just hated it I hated it dude um so because of that [ __ ] I just like there was this one time where like um in middle school I would I asked I pleaded my dad I’m like please please just give me a Wendy’s bacon eer please
Please do anything I’ll do anything I made him feel so [ __ ] guilty that he bought me the Wendy’s bacon eater like like maybe a couple times a week or something and he’d just be like just finish it before we go home mom please dad made feel so guilty and then um uh
This one time I just I just [ __ ] snapped something bad happened basically and I explained it before um but I just I think I just got tired of um feeling like like absolute nothing like I just got tired of feeling like like nobody liked me like like I was
Just like like I was ugly and I was like embarrassing and I was like nerdy and I just was like unattractive and and my mom was uh she she it’s just like Asian culture her parents did this to her too but like her parents would
Like I I guess their way of like trying to get their kid to do what they want is they’d just be like like you’re ugly or like you’re [ __ ] dumb like you need to study more like you’re lazy as [ __ ] damn they would just like straight out
Like say it that hurts coming from your parent bro that hurts bad [ __ ] I think that’s why I just I think a lot of Asian kids can relate to me how their childhood especially if they didn’t have siblings feel so lonely cuz there was a period of time where I
Just felt like I had nobody I had no friends I had no family to go to had no siblings to go to so I actually hacked into our my parents computer that’s some Asian [ __ ] yeah bro well it’s it’s not it’s not it’s not it
Wasn’t a I don’t know it wasn’t like a mathematical smart way so my my mom would put like parental controls on my computer at all times of the day and she would only unlock it if I had to do homework on the computer so one day I
Lied to her well I didn’t L at her I had homework and I told her to unlock it for me but I taped like this phone recorder to the corner of the room up there facing down to the keyboard she typed in the password later that night I checked
It out played like a little game of hangman figured out the password was her street address so every night like five times a week I would like wait till 2: a.m. when she finished eating her Cheetos and fell F fell asleep and I would sneak to the office room so I
Could watch anime and play RuneScape RuneScape and I could follow and dance with my [ __ ] RuneScape girlfriend hell yeah just [ __ ] like socialize or something did you ever find out oh yeah I got in so much big [ __ ] and I feel like that’s probably I feel like I could
Have been a little taller too if I if I didn’t spend like four years just not sleeping oh [ __ ] so you just didn’t sleep you had to go to school yeah I had like maybe like 3 hours of sleep each night or something and wow bro I yeah I
Would just go to school and i’ just be like fall asleep during class all the time jeez but uh yeah yeah I just I just snapped one day and I uh decided to fast and I lost 40 lbs in a month and um I was like a little Bing I’d like throw up
Over the toilet for for a bit so I could get leaner and stuff and this was all the same time I started lifting cuz football introduced us the weights and I was like well this is something I’m actually good at probably cuz I was heavy and you know in like all these
Sports in karate you have to carry your own weight so I was I was a little stronger than other kids so I was like [ __ ] yeah like this is my thing you know yeah so so my parents I was able to have them buy me a uh a weight set nice dude
For like Christmas so that’s I just started my lifting journey in in my garage and just kept going but like the first like I’d say like [ __ ] 6 years or something I was building muscle on a deficit at all times just cuz I you know I had this perception that I needed to
Be skinny yeah so but I do think it like changed my life you know doing that give you like the frame that you you think you have now yeah plus as cliche it is as it is bro like yeah lifting changed my entire life I wouldn’t be here
Without it yeah not at all it is like kind of thrown around like it’s cliche but it’s really not dude mhm I feel like a lot of us could say that so it’s dope all right I want to ask these uh these last Q&A questions you got you got to
Tell me their name first so I can so I can address them personally you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah we’ll do that then listen John we’re going to go with one of our friends right now oh [ __ ] Benji asks are you an ass or a tit guy
Benji Benji my man you know what we we know we talked about this right now we’re all about the calcium cannons brother that was the biggest shock to me bro I know like how the [ __ ] can someone lift and be that [ __ ] huge and dude
Because you can you can build an ass you can build an ass you can’t build tits bro they’re just giving to you so it’s like God blessed you with those babe like you know oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] that’s my personal take on it I could change in a
Couple next year or next month I don’t know used to be an ass guy but God God blessed you with those that’s funny as man all right you you don’t like like if they like you know if they worked for it then you’re like damn that’s kind of attractive no
Yeah like of course of course of course but you’re thinking for the long run though I’m thinking for the long run May it’s nothing wrong I mean be to be real like it’s nice when they bounce around and they’re just like you know yeah they’re all over the place you want to
Capture him you know Chrissy where you at playing all right uh Daniel asks what is his favorite who is his favorite anime character Daniel [ __ ] man that’s actually a pretty good question I’m not going to lie um out of all the animes I’ve watched watched quite a few I think there’s only
A select few that I like that I you know Vibe with the most and like that mean the most to me I’d have to say like Vegeta Vegeta Vegeta or Sasuke oh [ __ ] Sasuke SASE I feel like he just just like he just kind of went through this like this period of
His life where he’s like I have something to do and I have a dream and none of you understand me so don’t even try yeah so like I kind of like like the way and I always believed in him even when he was like you know he was like
Going down that back that bad Road he was like about to like kill Naruto I always believed that he had like a good sense of good in him in Itachi too you know but like I wish I could have gotten more of aachi story you know cuz I really liked Itachi as
Well mhm but I just felt that like Sasuke just had like this um this like responsibility on him that he just didn’t know how to like handle it correct directly but he just tried to do his best like what he knew what was right you know and in the end he made
The right decision you know but it was just I like I like the fact that he was just like his own man you know throughout it all like he just didn’t listen to anyone he was just kind of like ran his own show and just had a
Dream and he chased it but so did Naruto but I feel like coming from my past I more like like relate with like Sasuke and Vegeta yeah a little bit more I was going to say yeah the serious guys yeah bro because like I mean dude they’re
Serious but they’re also funny at the same I mean Vegeta is really funny but Sasuke’s not that funny but you know like I like Vegeta cuz he’s just kind of like I’m not doing that but then like FMA will ask him to do it he’ll do it
You know what I mean so it’s just like you know just kind of back and forth with it and I just think it’s funny you know what I mean yeah it’s funny as [ __ ] yeah damn yeah those two I don’t even know if people like know this anime I
Feel like my favorite would have to be in Yasha oh it’s from uh isn’t it from Bleach no in Yasha is his own show yeah yeah yeah [ __ ] half demon with a RI a big ass sword yeah it was way back though it’s old old actually you know
What’s crazy dude I just started watching that like two months ago what [ __ ] yeah but I think I stopped like I don’t know it just I didn’t finish it it’s it it watching it this like these days it feels slow especially cuz the anime is so old like I remember
The anime being dope as [ __ ] when I was watching it and that was like I feel like that was like 20 years ago or something yeah so it’s it it feels different now it’s not like I feel like something like a like um uh like berserk or something even even the old anime
It’s still easier to watch than for some reason yeaha right now yeah but I [ __ ] like it because Kagome is just like this school girl who like like just steps on in’s face and stuff in is basically he’s like a [ __ ] he’s just a aggressive [ __ ] delinquent but she
Just she gets that she gets she whips him in the face play and I love that like romance kind of like Clash stuff like that where it’s like yeah it’s it’s it’s nice jadm says we don’t have questions but he is the real Jack Hana jadir uh who dude this is
Hilarious man um Selman asks how to train back like shizzy bro what sellman San SX LM y n how do you train back like shizzy brother you got we got to grow we got to grow them I mean that’s like the number one thing that I tell myself I don’t know
Lats lats that’s how I train my back right now it’s just lats lat everything I I need to grow my my lats and so I guess I get just give you a little rundown pull Downs close grip mad grip pull Downs rows dumbbell rows single arm dumbbell rows pullovers pull-ups you
Know those are all like pretty much big lap movements just slow down you know squeeze it 5 seconds on the Ecentric like we were talking about it’s money [ __ ] yeah hell yeah yeah yeah those pull Downs are crazy you I um do you ever try a single
Arm like cable lap pulls like this I I just lose it my mind muscle connection really yes [ __ ] yeah I feel like cuz like if I lean too much I feel like I’m kind of like pinching my shoulder like kind of using my my arm I just I don’t
Know I just don’t I I haven’t done him in a while I’m not going to lie okay I should probably try him again my muscle connection is much better than it was before it’s just you’re literally just like my boy Nathan yeah guys got the big
Ass arms and Sh then he he always has trouble like engaging his lats but they will grow in Jesus name man you look [ __ ] nuts too holy [ __ ] that lat to arm combo will be [ __ ] I’ll see you on that stage bro that’s right number one come on number
Two to me baby well no I’m saying in the natural natural world who’s that guy that has is this like the other most controversial natur natural what’s his name oh Josh Josh it’s me versus Josh right now unfortunately I don’t even know if his is considered controversial
I think people just think he’s just not he’s just not that’s really that’s really what people think damn I think so man it’s I got to talk to him except for like his following yeah but I mean all right dude I will give it to him he
Looks [ __ ] crazy he do crazy s s asks uh what’s your mother’s tongue can you speak well he can clearly he can clearly speak fluent English yeah my mother um her her father is from the like the Netherlands so he speaks like Dutch and stuff my my my mom’s mom is Lithuanian
And I can’t speak that dude she was crazy like she was actually insane like so we didn’t really like know that part I would love to go to Lithuania though and see what what they’re like but uh uh that’s then you know what are you what
Are you doing holy [ __ ] I speak a little bit of German uh you know shos smoka you know have a good weekend oh that’s dope that’s dope as [ __ ] you know I I could I could like pull some stuff out but yeah yeah I can’t really speak fluently if I
Went to Germany I’d be kind of lost in the sauce I’d be able to get around but I couldn’t be like you know yeah kind of like that German you were speaking when you took your the picture of your last post was I oh yeah I like wait what The the nameless the nameless asks what’s your best PR on any exercise and what’s your favorite body part to work out the nameless um best PR it’s not impressive let me just say that I mean but I did get 405 on a flat bench last winter bro
That is that’s [ __ ] imprr so are you kidding me yeah dude I think that’s impressive as [ __ ] just it’s like nowadays it’s like there’s like kids that are repping that out dude there’s 18-year-olds repping 405 right now it’s it’s it’s literally only [ __ ] the Tren Twins and Sam s’s fault it’s
Literally just their fault yeah I know they’re ridiculously strong bro like it’s annoying like Samu looks repping 405 on incline like bro get the [ __ ] out of here piece of [ __ ] ruining my life I know no I’m just kidding I love that guy yeah I’d just probably say like 405 the
Most I’ve ever I’m not my deadlift is [ __ ] I’m not a good deadlifter but I’ve deadlifted um 500 lb nice h oh yeah it’s pretty much it though for not being a good deadlifter that’s that’s some weight yeah it’s not bad I I quit doing any power lifts ever since I
Kept injuring myself so my favorite muscle was chest though chain chest no [ __ ] dude I would have guessed arms no brother I love having like dude Arnold Schwarzenegger bro no one had a chest like that dude bro huge hug so like I just want want those milkers bro would
You say that you like based off a lot of your workouts and you’re like building your physique off oh 100% that makes so much sense 100% that’s why my l i talk so much bad about my lats because they’re like there’s not even nowhere near as close to Arnolds as like as I
Want them to be just like just like him though you both y’all’s strengths are definitely in your arms and your chest I think mhm for sure no for sure yeah uh maybe Moyes asks did shizzy know before being viral that he looks like Jack hanma actually no I didn’t
Yeah when did that even start I think it’s just like people just started saying it a lot and people start making edits of me doing it and I had 400 I remember on Tik Tok I had like 450,000 followers right now I have like 3.2 million so I was like this was like
When it first started happening and I did like for a 500,000 follower thing I did like thanks for all you guys following me and I did like a jack hel like cosay cosplay right um just because I go it’s like you know I feel like that’s what they wanted it’s what the
People wanted and then that just that just blew up like it was just like oh he’s Jack com now and I was like yeah I guess I’m Jo that is [ __ ] sick I got to be real man like your your next hairstyle you’re telling me about is
Going to be [ __ ] epic don’t tell them I won’t tell him I won’t tell him but but uh your your bleach hair is like [ __ ] it’s like a trademark man I know it’s just you know what bad I think I just still think about just like I’m
Just gon to bleach you dude I’m just goingon to bleach you because I just I just feel like I look better like it’s just like yeah it looks pretty Epic 2 I am I’m actually Jack aside from like when you wear the uh the bandanas and that that’s pretty
Hard too yeah this guy is just asking these questions like does it jiggle like is it grippy I don’t understand this question I’m not sure if you do but uh Loki Perez asks how many boats did he carry no way bro I think that’s from like Oh I
Thought maybe that was my boy from my first unit what was his name low key Perez yeah no his name was joab Jo Perez um boats did I carry I think he’s talking about David gawkin no yeah carried the boats car sh I carry all of them man Tyler
James asked if you could slap Brad silly Tyler James I will say this that I did ask Brad Martin if he wanted to box I asked him and he said no come on Brad you’re only 5 minutes away all friendly though of course NES asks forearm workout if you have Natasha
Is that a girl NES oh okay like damn okay uh arm workout just off the top of my head I could just run you through something I’d do right now I’d start off with some you know start off with some uh you get a cable the Rope cable curls
I go over I do like three sets of like 10 to 12 you know do a last set like a drop set burnout straight bar curls um I only do like three sets of biceps so I do like straight bar curls I start with like 10 lb and if I feel comfortable on
That I do like a 25 lb and then I do like maybe like a 35 lbs on each side but then at the last set I just strip them all do another burnout set for my fourth set third and third set I’d probably do just uh dumbbell work I
Would start off with like the 35s or the 30s or the 45s or the 40s depending how I feel my arms feel and I just go 45 30 20 10 and I’d keep those dumbbells by my chair and I do a drop set like that three times nice and then for triceps I
Just do like you know normal you don’t really to do too complex man it’s just like just squeeze and then do enough weight where you can only do like 8 to 12 and then you know if you want to throw and they go burn outside at the
End [ __ ] dude forearm drop sets that’s Savage as [ __ ] you’re going to have those donon they’re going to be no forearms by the end of that workout you’re going to have some huge eyes arms promise I this was a question for myself actually I thought about earlier but um
How long have you been doing Tik Tok for when did you start um I mean I could I could actually open it up and give you a like a legit answer I want to say it’s been about a year damn that’s it bro yeah that’s crazy uhuh I’ve really only
Been doing this for not that long dude that’s insane let’s see making me feel old no man it’s just I’ve been working out you know obviously you guys know like worked out but like I don’t know I don’t even know why I started doing Tik
Toks on this oh actually I do I got I got viral my ex-girlfriend made a video about me she asked me like these three questions that if a girl asked me what what is my responses going to be and um I didn’t have a Tik Tok at the time but
All the people were like yo this dude’s [ __ ] huge you know what’s his at stuff like that and I was like damn I got to make a Tik Tok and so I started it and I was like like reposted that video trying to get like people to see
Like that was me but uh let’s see this was the first one I have posted here was 2021 so what you know what month January oh January years ago okay yeah two years ago yeah it’s almost like two a year and a couple months you me like eight months
January 2021 to 2023 so two years and almost three yeah wow okay so I’ve been doing this for a lot long and a half two and a halfish yeah yeah all right nice good [ __ ] I didn’t know [ __ ] about three years now I was about to say man I’m
Like man you grew this much in a year I’m [ __ ] impressed that’s [ __ ] sick uh RAM ask may be typical but what’s his split like what was that what’s what’s your split like Ram asks uh RAM so it’s um tomorrow I’m probably going to rest some um it
Was after my leg day so I like to like rest after a like day um so it’s was going to start off the top of my my top of my split it’s um [ __ ] what is it Anyway I think it’s chest I think I have chest have chest
Which is only chest I don’t do any arm exercises during my chest days it’s just complete obliteration of the chest next is uh shoulders and arms that’s when I’ll get my arm workout in and I’ll get my shoulder work in uh next is back which I’m I’m
Actually going to end up splitting uh messing with my split a little bit here it’s coming soon so maybe I should just tell you this is I’m going to be starting splitting my back days into two separate days oh let’s go one day I’m working on thickness the other day I’ll
Be working on with so that way I can kind of just uh and I’m going to start getting a lot more like body like massages you know try to break up the fascia in there and try to see if I can make that make them grow a little bit
More at a more accelerated rate so I’m going to try to just split that up and then you know obviously day four would be legs but uh we’re going to see we’re going to see what’s going to happen because I was speaking with Jay Culler
And he told me he worked out twice a day and it inspired me oh [ __ ] like right now yeah I mean he told me that he’d wake up at 7:00 a.m. oh back in the day back in the day he’d wake up at 7:00 a.m. eat sleep get up eat eat work out
Sleep crazy which you know I just I don’t know what’s inspiring to me I do have an argument for that though I do believe I do believe a few are natural that’s what I was thinking I don’t think working out twice a day unless you have
Even okay Hy Rambo even said this uh for natural 3 days on one day off if you’re working out really hard two days on one day off and I’ve always believed this as well I think probably important to have like two rest days if you’re working out
Like five times a week as a natural I mean just frustrating oh oh actually no actually there is an opportunity like say that you have a full leg day yeah you could go do quads in the morning come back do hamstrings afterwards that way your carb partitioning is even better because now
You can have a longer time window to consume your carbs both around your morning workout and then your evening workout as well do you think you would actually get a good workout though yeah like like say could could you split you couldn’t split your back day into two
Days the same day within you know like uh within I mean if you really really hit just back thickness where you do like elbows out yeah rows and then you did strictly lats just like lat pull Downs like [ __ ] like that I guess so I think you could I think you could I
Don’t know if I would want to try that but I don’t know that is a lot of time to go back to the gym and yeah and make sure like you’re actually getting a good workout and it would take months to see if you’re making any progress that’s a
Natural anyway that’s what’s so frustrating is like you know they’ll they’ll tell you what they did but it’s like you realize I can’t do that I knew it the whole time he was telling me when I was something like maybe this is it maybe this is how I can make crazy gains
I mean there is an opportunity there like uh Stan eing was the one who told me about how it is actually very effective to have a morning and evening workout if you’re partitioning your carbohydrates like that that way you know you can utilize more nutrients during that day um that makes more that
Makes sense and you’re hungrier too right yeah but you know I think you just at the end of the day you still have to listen to your body and if there’s a point where you’re starting to feel like you’re overtraining when you know take a little take some rest yeah
True yeah [ __ ] I want to go lift a good dude dude I’m ready to go man I just just so ready to just win let’s go want to be the best bro I feel that too dude it’s so frustrating to wait um last question Dino asks shy can you beat NY niga in
Arm wrestling bro [ __ ] no what I can’t shut the [ __ ] up bro no there’s no way I can shut the [ __ ] up dud dude I suck no I I suck bad what’s his name killed my [ __ ] uh James English oh yeah yeah he torched
Me I I I feel like I feel like I thought I was good he made me feel like I was like a like a [ __ ] like he just like twisted my [ __ ] and just like put it down I was like oh hell no hold run that back but this whole time I elbows
[ __ ] crying cuz he just did some weird magic [ __ ] to my wrist I was like hell no I plus I was a couple shots deep at this point I was like [ __ ] run that sh honestly for those videos you were you were a lot of shots deep Bro
You were a lot of shots wased out I’m going to be real you were way you were way more [ __ ] up than James was so bad significantly more [ __ ] up oh my God I jumped in the pool with a cigar in my mouth I love cigars I wouldn’t do
That I had a been to do that that’s hilarious dude I mean he [ __ ] trades for that [ __ ] though he does but it still bothers me all right bro this was [ __ ] epic where can everybody find you oh yeah shizzy lifs uh both on Instagram Tik
Tock and then uh shizzy and Jizzy on YouTube which we should we’re gonna be posting on that more so bro you have to tr like I long for like for your boy post YouTube videos all right cuz uh I think Tik tok’s great and all but funling that into YouTube is where it’s
At for sure trying to do it at the same time I will do I promise I promise all right everybody [ __ ] uh younga Cod shizzy what’s your Co Nile Y young Co Nile dude his podcast run that up dude I’m a guest for real support my boy yeah
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