Why does it feel like so many asian-americans are leaning into the ABG Asian baby girl and the Asian baby boy ABB AKA Kevin wi look so much right now we are going to try to answer this question right now oh my goodness I’m telling you every time this topic comes
Up I just know that it gets a lot of views and there’s a lot of magnetism surrounding the Jennifer Tran Kevin win ABG ABB discussion David uh you know I just got my haircut I got a fade on the sides little comb over with the pomp
David you got a red flannel on and uh some Jade I don’t know dude there’s a little Kevin winning us right now yeah yeah yeah man I can’t deny it um we got to talk about this Reddit post it was called uh do asian-americans become abgs
And abbs to fit into the crowd this guy talks about how he was in a frat because his cousin wanted him to join but he wasn’t really into it and he noticed that even some of the quiet nerdy people did who didn’t seem like they fit in
With that look became a bgs or abbs by their second year in the Asian sororities or the Asian fraternities so then they would start going to Raves they would party off and they would just be outdoing Kevin wi activity in general and this guy said would you guys say
That most asian-americans try to be abgs and abbs just to like fit in these days because I knew people who I did not think were going to chase that archetype and they ended up deep in that lane what’s going on all right guys we’re going to try to answer this question we
Got the comment section I have my own reasons on why I think the Kevin windl is so big please hit that like button and check out other episodes of the hop hop boys but before that uh you know what’s one thing that abgs abbs will like or even preppy ones we got smalla
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Thing I’ve seen that like pop up in the past like five years it’s more of a recent thing but uh we we’ve like gone over the history in previous videos we’re just more talking about the phenomenon now about how it seems like there’s all these different archetypes
Right you you can sit at so many different lunch tables in high school you know you fit in with the jocks you fit in with the Nerds but why does it seem like every year the amount of young Asians that chase the ABG or ABB aesthetic seemingly increases it’s a pie
Slice that is growing year after year in terms of uh just like usage yeah and I I have my quick Reasons I’m going to tell you right now why I think so many young Asian dudes are kind of leaning into the Kevin wind look first of all I think
There’s different versions of a Kevin wi look I think there’s a Filipino Kevin wind look I think there’s a more like Southern Chinese Cantonese Kevin wind look Hast little hype beasty I think the Filipino one is very NBA Street Wear Centric I think there is a Korean
Version a little bit Kevin Kim not kin there different variations but we all know they kind of revolve around you know a similar look and a similar goal a similar goal is important but let me talk about why I think so many young guys even ones that are going to The Ivy
Leagues now are now taking on a Kevin win look whether that’s the combover with the fade or the perm on hair and then you got the flannel or the the curtain bangs one one they don’t have another style that they feel very dear and dedicated to so as in if you’re like
A very fashionable person and you want to only wear raw Japanese denim or you’re a guy who’s only into preppy clothes you’re a Hampton’s shoes type Asian guys yeah from that type of family you’re saying if you’re 10 out of 10 dedicated to one of those archetypes
You’re not going to become a Kevin or you’re a art school Asian guy who likes to wear the flared out pants and like the black baggy I don’t know whatever the dress like Steve Lacy or something whatever yes keshi like that’s a different look right where I’m saying
That if you’re not dedicated one of those Styles and you have no current style you’re just going to go into what works Point number two it works I think that the Kevin win look it’s not a bad look it may be typical and basic and you
Can criticize it for that but it works as in you look good you’re you’re clean shaven your hair is tall so your head is elongated your clothes fit it looks masculine is it sort of like getting a brand new 2023 Civic or a cord or Tesla
Model 3 you can’t really go wrong those are the basic choices yeah those are the highest selling cars in segment for a reason yeah they’re not Niche they’re not like mindblowing they’re not phenomenal but those are what works right so it what works also it’s affordable I think a lot of Kevin wins
Come from the middle class the Kevin win style is not hyp expensive and it’s not hard to achieve right just get a black T-shirt get a little gold chain get some tats possibly when we’re talking about Kevin win activities raving partying um I think a lot of Kevin WIS still do
Their homework and study in school by the way but I think that it’s basically the only group the largest segment of asian-americans asian-americans that seem like they’re having fun together is the abgs in the abbs and people want to be part of it that’s why people join fraternities not
All fraternities are whack but there are some fraternities that are more cringe than others but let’s be honest you join an Asian fraternity or Asian sorority whether it’s a business sorority or business frat because you want to be part of a crowd that has a social life
That that is out like doing social things and social activities together in an organized structured fashion right it’s attractive it’s attract listen there is the Comic-Con Lane and I understand that and there’s a part of me that you know I I like some geek stuff
But if you made me say Kevin wins they play sports they you know hang out with them still play valerant too yeah they still and they still game a little bit you know so I’m saying I guess I can see why it’s appealing and I agree with you
Because like being an ABG or ABB it sort of indicates that you’re also potentially like above average on the charted spectrum of like Asian attractiveness and uh also it’s very difficult to live like that Lily hu and her boyfriend like Rich golfer like old money lifestyle you know like oh like oh
Yeah we’re the Asians from Prep School like that’s just not like a lifestyle or a tribe that has a lot of universal accessibility dude you know how many Asians tell me they like and watch F1 racing shows but how many Asians can actually even touch that world that’s
Not an Asian world yeah no that’s that’s a good point um Andrew uh how much do you think that you know how like the the ABG look kind of came from the Chola uh stereotype from so right uh back in the day but I don’t really see the ab thing
Being driven by Cholo’s do you know what I’m saying like if in the 90s it was kind of driven by this like gang more like you know I got weapons whether it’s whatever whatever you know what I mean i’ got I’m connected in the streets from
The 90s thing I I don’t see Kevin winds being fully I’m not saying there’s no correlation because definitely some of them is doing some things you know what I mean but I’m just saying like it’s not driven by the the cholo image yeah yeah yeah I do think there’s some
La Southern California influence in the Kevin win I think that’s where Kevin wi originally comes from this image is probably for sure yeah it’s probably La OC right so I think there’s some of that but you’re right it’s not based off of the the shaved head cholo I think that’s
The general image that people see as a cholo is like the high socks the Cortez the jean shorts the I guess in modern day the the Edgar is the is the modern day um Edgar and Kevin wi do they have some crossover uh slightly but I I I really
More you’re right I think it’s I think the Chola and the ABG is much more connected because I think the Chola look is considered uh sexier in a in a female Lane than the than the cholo is in the male Lane makes sense makes sense anyway let’s get in the comments section guys
Like we said there’s no real right or wrong answer when you’re discussing something as like real but at the same time trivial as like usage rates of ABG and ABB archetypes in the Asian-American Community youth segment demographic some somebody says yes more specifically people do adopt the ABG or ABB archetype
To fit into the cool crowd the importance of social status does not end in high school it follows you to their grave somebody said it’s also how a lot of Asians actually glow up they sort of like were these nerdy High School Achievers maybe fitting into the model
Minority stereotype and then they join a frat or sorority or a ASU thing and then adopt the ABG ABB look here’s the thing guys the Kevin win look the connot that comes along with it okay you can say oh Kevin winds are like dumb or they’re like toxic but really the the actually
At the core of it it’s a masculine look it is heteronormative it’s somewhat ethnic and urban you know what I mean so like that’s the connotation that a lot of Asian guys feel like they lack a lot of nerdy Asian guys they they for what I’m not saying they are are not
Masculine but that how they’re perceived we all know this is that we’re perceived to be less masculine than other people yeah we sometimes Asian men men are honestly not treated like men yeah so what do we do you put on more masculine clothing and to be honest you don’t hear
A lot of people wanting to mess with Kevin wi you don’t want to F with a Kevin a group of Kevin wins I’m not saying that they are great Fighters I’m just saying you don’t want to mess with them right they they people don’t tend
To pick on them yes people don’t pick on Kevin WIS as much and like you said I mean I would say like you said it’s an ethnic look Drake sometimes dresses like a Kevin wind with just like the black te the chain a lot of people at hookah
Spots dress like Kevin WIS a lot of Middle Eastern guys too um well they got the Drake influence um somebody says uh you know I see a lot of people do the Kevin win but I also see a lot of Asian-American guys with the curtain bangs right now like Asian Asian guys so
Maybe the Kevin win is mixing with a K-pop look in 20123 I would Kevin K-pop it’s a Kevin K-pop look the Kevin Kim that’s the Kevin Kim the K-pop win look yes you’re talking about the catchy luxury Basics like I think you can mix and match hairstyles Main typical Kevin
Win hairstyles I would go in popularity is the uh the fade with the combover kind of what I have to be honest and then the perm and then the curtain bangs now right you did get your haircut at 12 pel which is kind of a I did get my
Haircut at 12 P shout out to 12 pel kind of a Kevin wi spot for stylish Kevin winds but yes yes it’s expensive um somebody said it’s super trendy right now but I only see it in bigger met metropolitan areas in suburbs or more rural cities I don’t see people at the
Kevin wind look as much I agree because it has to do with your proximity to um an urban center but particularly influences from SoCal okay okay yeah I could see that like you’re not going to see a bunch of Asian guys in the midwest ad I’m not saying that none would but
Just a lower percentage I think more and more are watch out um somebody was saying I think it’s quite the oppos opposite if you go to the suburbs the white washed Asians are tend to look pretty plain and then this guy said Priscilla Chan which is Mark Zuckerberg’s wife I can’t believe he
Brought her into this and then uh saying that yeah like so it’s different and depends on like family to family basically yeah I mean listen we come from a pretty bad academic family uh it’s not fully organic for people whose like parents have like graduate school degrees and that they were like model
Minority brain workers did the heart seller act to produce ABB ABG kids but I’m saying that they more kids are adopting it from that background to have a life yeah because it’s a cool look yeah or it’s a masculine look the look helps them achieve what image they want
To portray Yep this guy said it just sounds like an Asian-American flavor of the normal human thing where people want to get somewhere in life such as having a better social life a better dating life access to certain social opportunities and they’re grafting on aspects of a character that has a broad
Appeal which is the easiest thing to find and run with it is a identity archetype fashion starter pack it can be useful that’s why people do it you’ll likely look more attractive and develop a fully personality if you’re open-minded toward this stuff where it goes wrong is if you’re not constantly
Actively thinking about the parts of it you like and what parts you discard and how you’re going to make it your own then you’re going to run the risk of becoming a caricature basically like a clone this guy was saying basically what we were saying yes it is useful yes
Looking like ABG or AB or being influenced by these fashion archetypes will get you something in life but you don’t want to end up looking so ridiculous yeah but I and I think that um there’s archetypes in every circle like the the rapper archetype there’s like
People that you meet and you’re like man they’re like a stereotypical rapper or like The Artsy kid and you’re like dude this is a stere art art school kid you know so I think there are stereotypes of every type of style and I think every style likes to think that they’re cooler
Than the next one or that they’re high and mighty or that they uh are more thoughtful but there can be drones in those too right um this guy said for me I’m not into that look I have a day job I’m dedicated to I care about my
Appearances but I have basic ass Hobbies like hiking hot pot and reading this actually still gets me respect in my world so I don’t care about abgs or abbs nor am I part of that Circle what do you think of that um do you think ultimately
Everybody has to be in that archetype to have fun no right like this guy probably is more like in the computer programmer Lane But ultimately yeah I mean if he’s like tall good-looking whatever he’s just going to get the girls who who more like people who travel and go hiking
That that’s like a different Lane though it’s true that you won’t have access to the ABG influence pool though would you agree with that like he’s shutting himself off from that particular large segment of the Asian-American population socially yeah um somebody said young people are always looking to fit in with
A popular crowd whether you’re white black Asian or Latino and uh yeah everybody does it this is just the Asian version of it so basically he’s saying that like every people uh every race like sort of does this within their own Community but the ABG ABB it just is the
One that won out in the Asian Community yeah I mean you have you seen these videos of these uh White frat guys uh rushing frats in like the South like they all look like clones particularly the southern Frat Boys are like super they all have to wear polos they’re all tucked into their
Shorts they all they all like white kids all name is like chat or like yeah whatever like I mean listen I think that part of social media it’s good and bad because it exposes you to different niches potentially but it also is a unifying culture and that once someone
Sees a style that fits everybody adopts that because it just works now are people more clones of each other than they’ve ever been I don’t know maybe maybe not yeah I see more people with like more distinct Styles cuz I remember for a while Old Navy and GAP used to be
Really dominant and that’s like the plain style you could possibly wear as like Gap clothing um somebody said you really only have three choices as an Asian guy in college go to ABB route or ABB adjacent route hit the gym five times a week while rocking a crew cut or
Curtained hairstyle this route will unlock 50% of Asian chicks in America that exclusively date Asian Guys Hot abgs and Hot other types of women await you number two join a white frat bro crowd and distance yourself from the Asian community Asian guys who I see don’t hang out with other Asians usually
End up dating a mediocre looking white girl or Asian girl Point number three pick the PC Gamer route this is actually an enormous amount of Asian guys like this play valerent every night be out of shape be still a virgin at 20-some for every Asian guy that is slaying right
Now there are probably at least four other Asian guys that fit into this archetype tough choice and other people were saying yo this guy got it spot on do you agree with this does it seem like these are the three choices once somebody enters like a you know like a large D1 college
I think he forgot about the International School crowd but yes for Americanized Asian guys I think it’s more or less true but I think there’s obviously the fob crowd yeah no uh I noticed that some Asian-American guys Andrew they almost become dressed like a rich international student that’s very
Like worldly traveled and has a lot of stamps in their passport and then they date mostly International chicks for the rest of their life so they almost like that that like World traveler thing I mean uh everybody was just you know basically saying this is just some way
To have social status in the Asian-American Community what do you think do you think it’s fair unfair or it is what it is because it’s true that some Asian guys they want access to like hot ABG looking girls right but they don’t want to fit into the ABB Lane but
If you don’t and let’s say you for example you’re wearing all this raw denim and you’re looking like you listen to that stomp clamp you know like all the Vintage leathers and stuff it’s true that ABG girls are not going to like that uh no that’s a different style and
I think at the end of the day a lot of Asian dudes do not have a style that they are married to some guys are some guys are like nah man this is what I’m into man I only want this type of clothing I go to this vintage shop I
Hunt here on on my on the weekend and dude that’s go to antique shops that’s a certain lifestyle I got friends in New York who act like that right who they want the they they work in film they want the film cameras you know they want
The role and then they want to develop their own film and stuff that’s essentially uh the Hipster hipster that’s a different lifestyle and you’re not going to attract abgs that way so if you want abgs you have to become some version not saying cookie cutter but some version of something that appeals
To them and that’s just what it is and I think it’s not that just all guys want to get abgs but they just know that the Kevin win style works for a mass amount of different and that’s how you get the quote unquote hot Asian girls who
Actually like Asian guys back yeah for the most part right like I mean some Asian dudes are deep in the street wear Lane they work at Sneaker shops they have to be decked out and every street they got no oh cactus plant this oh this person broke off from Supreme and
Started this brand and that’s what I and I’m just saying that’s a different subculture that’s a different world that has its benefits too but I’m just saying you have to understand that like that’s not typical that is not the mass market right right right so like we said guys
Here’s a couple looks that I see that are popular amongst the youth the Kevin wi but like you said you can have the Kevin lamb the Kevin Lynn the Kevin Kim you know like multi-racial variations maybe this got hype Beast sprinkled on it this got K-pop sprinkled on it this
Has a little bit more like Taiwanese Tech bro sprinkled on it you know CEO VC type uh the keshi sad boy artsy boy cigarette boy would you say this one’s trendy right now you know a little bit lowii um we got the K-pop F boy which is little
Bit like J Park mixing it with some uh BTS I’d throw in a tech guy all all birds Kevin WIS don’t wear all birds those shoes that’s the that’s just the Kevin SE Tech founder yeah um the racially ambiguous guy I tend to think that that really works well for Filipinos because
You know sometimes look Latino um international student which we said is like the rich boy look you know GQ you know what I mean more like uh archive fashion if you really want to get into thousand Balenciaga shoes and then uh yeah there’s other archetypes too you
Know Asian Hooper guy but I noticed the reason why and we have a lot of friends that are Asian hoopers Andrew the Asian Hooper look you can get a girlfriend but that’s not the look of a player you know what I mean because you’re more focused on hooping yeah and
Tracking your stats and stuff um but ultimately guys yeah let us know why you guys think in the comments section below that you know people are posing this question why does it seem like every year a disproportionately large amount of asian-americans choose the ABG or ABB Lane what are their motivations could
There be another archetype that emerges as you know working for people maybe it just takes a celebrity to break open the game let us know what you think in the comment section below we encourage the debate until next time with the hop out boys we out peace
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