Eat their flesh is forbidden for human beings Kishna har Krishna H har Krishna Krishna Krishna H H har This is chapter entitled King ponana goes to the forest to hunt then by doing so his Queen becomes angry so in the earlier chapter it was seen that King panana the master of the body the nine Gates of the body he had accepted a wife represented uh the material intelligence represented by
A young girl whom he married so in this way there was a a strong connection between this condition soul and his material intelligence in this way by way of this marriage so this is the position of all the conditioned Souls that we have two types of bodies one grows body constituted of various
Limbs and naad nine Gates and also we have also settled body a constitute of Mind intelligence ego uh this is the the complete body and we are in the middle of that being conditioned being put into this body by force of nature or by um uh previous activities under the
Supervision of the Super Soul we are inhabiting this place this body along with the settled body so what are we doing actually uh that is described in this uh uh story narrated by naruni to King pishat it is allegorical story uh describing the activities of the conditioned Soul so here’s a
New uh activity started by the king Pon the condition Soul he just got married and apparently is supposed to be happy uh with his wife that means he intellig s together they are uh living in this uh uh World beautiful city and all that so they are living happily but the
Next activity of King ponana is that somehow he’s uh becomes little uh fed up with the company of his wife according to this description and he developed the idea why should I always be me be with my wife there are so many other places I can visit and maybe I can find some
Other opportunities for enjoyment so it seems that uh from this description the main uh the consciousness of the condition Soul King panana although he’s supposed to be a king a king means having power but he is taken away by the desires from his mind and he wants to enjoy uh other areas of
Enjoyment I described earlier in the beginning of the chapter that king panana lives uh leaves he gets out of this city uh and go to explore some new places for that purpose he has a gone onto a chariot with a two wheels and uh there are five
Horses and a rain driver like this so he’s sitting in this Chariot and is going at a high speed and who are these what are these horses according to this description it is Alle allegorical description as we find also in the upanishads and that these five houses represent the five uh knowledge acquiring
Senses that is sense of uh uh hearing tasting smelling and the sense of touch and uh then what is the last one huh Sing Sing yes sorry sing every moment we just like a person who has married Five Wives so one wife is pulling this side the another wife
This side this side this side so every sense in this way as compared in some other example compared to wife so five wives and each one is pulling different direction this is our situation every moment we become attracted oh beautiful sound oh beautiful sight beautiful uh smell we
Have common experience for ourselves and by by looking at others what others are doing I see sometime just to give an example of day-to-day life nearby here on the main Highway of the crossing there is one bandi in that Bondi there’s some food items and every time I go that way lot
Of people are waiting a queue to take some of these food items so maybe we can uh think maybe that these people are hungry so they want to satisfy their hunger but this is not the real reason there’s also sight oh this looks like beautiful and it looks tasty that is
Also there but then smell we can smell this food items from long The atast 100 M away you can smell so people are attractive oh this a very nice smell very ni must be very testy so and so on so even though they are not hungry but they are goinging to
Take one small item and go so that is in this way how we are pulled this way this way this way by our senses so there five horses on The Chariot in this way it is very very difficult to control five horses and the mind is supposed to
Uh the RS RS are there the mind and the intelligence supposed to be The Driver the mind is immediately uh cannot do much it is simply uh accepting the sensations from their senses and recording in the mind oh this I had no 10 years ago or it was
Very nice to eat so I can also again eat the same thing today oh this is a beautiful movie I saw 20 years ago let me see again this movie so the mind is the repository it is the um like memory and keeping this in mind and the
Intelligence supposed to be above that and it made discriminate what is good and what is not so good uh earlier I was mentioning how to differentiate between mind and intelligence sometime we are bewildered what is mind what is intelligence you go on top of a building you you just walk around on the
Top of the building then mind will look down now you you jump Mind Is Telling You Jump intelligence no no don’t jump that is intelligence work working in opposite manner discriminating what is good and what is not good so intelligence supposed to be like this but sometime intelligence is
Also very weak and cannot discriminate properly so that’s why it is needs education that’s why children are sent to to school from an early age so that intelligence should be properly directed in a particular manner so this sense objects senses mind intelligence the spirit soul in this way there’s a
Gradation of uh Power in the Bhagavad Gita Lord krishna’s says that the working senses are superior to matter mind is higher than the senses intelligence is still higher than the mind and the soul is even higher than the intelligence so the sense is IND IND kishna
Tells but uh in the purple quotes from the cish um kopish writes um there is a similar passage in which it is said that the objects of sense gratification are superior to the senses the sloka said the senses are superior to the objects of the senses Lord Krishna tells Arjuna but
Kad and some other and also Mahabharata say that the objects of the senses are superior to the senses so we just wonder what is the real truth it is very difficult but then I was reading from ban his commentary on the SLA he says how to reconcile apparently two contradictory
Statements he says that because the objects of the senses are stronger than the senses they call for the S please come here please come here the object of the sense the sense the object of sense got they are calling us and in this way our sense Gan Andria they are they are going
In that direction because we are attracted to that particular sense object therefore in this description the sense subject is stronger than the sense the senses so that is how the upanishad is mentioning like that in a somewhat a different Manner and uh this is actually very
Interesting as a by if we regard if we look into ourselves how we are acting how we are feeling and so on uh which is stronger our senses are stronger or the sense objects are stronger so we can by self-examination we can see that most most of the time we are just simply
Attracted our senses are attracted and the mind is passive intelligence is not sufficiently educated and the soul the poor soul the passenger of the Char simply going here and there uh without any restriction practically speaking the soul is uh Alo from the uh the activities of the
Material world supposed to be pure but it is forced to sit down in this charot and they going here and there that is the position of the Soul so unless there’s a complete remedy to the situation and what is the remedy Lord Krishna says that m
And the solution is given in the B Lord Krishna says that very clearly that this Maya or the sense objects are very Strong and uh there this is my Maya Mama may it doesn’t belong to something else it is not just the ordinary force of nature just like the scientist they are thinking oh we are very strong we are very intelligent we have PhD uh we have uh so many experiences in scientific
Investigation so we can investigate all these sense objects and we can find a solution remedy and we can utilize all these discoveries by um improving our living conditions but Krishna said M Maya these sense objects belong to me how can you try to analyze something belonging to Krishna like this so
Eily it is not simply nature it is not simply outside and we can catch it analyze find on property and move in this direction like this to impove Pro our condition no M Mar it belongs to me therefore M you cannot overcome that is krishna’s Maya fortunately there’s a solution to
That and that is by surrender we have to understand Lord Krishna to be the source of everything he is the actor behind every act and he is the friend of everyone so if we in this way understand Lord Krishna to be the uh objective of life we will be able to understand our
Position we are Eternal Servants of Krishna so our position is simply to render service to to him and by doing so this m mayaa that will be conquered by my Mercy kishna said that can be overcome so not by scientific research but by surrender to Krishna we can
Actually find a solution to all the problems of life this condition uh life where at every moment we are dragged we are pulled in all different directions for worse or for better but uh without discrimination we are simply going down and down so that is the uh situation of the uh
Ponana who has not understood Not educated in Krishna conscious he is simply uh living and trying to experience all the pleasures of life he already has married one wife but he’s not satisfied he wants to experience more and more different types of sense Pleasures so in this way he’s going
Outside and uh being taken in this way by this senses towards the sense objects so that is the position of King puron hunting poad give example of hunting King panana has been described as going for hunt so the chatas like King Pana traditionally as prop mentioned in the purport they are
Allowed to hunt in the forest they are allowed to kill forest animals especially dangerous animals Forest is also inhabited by rishes yogis and vanap pastas sasis many sent personalities also there ashrams also situated in the forest especially in the earlier times and if these wild animal tigers and uh dangerous animals are
Allowed to uh threaten all these Pious people then it will be a great danger for them so the king is allowed in this way to go to the forest and it’s a kind of protection for these senty personalities to kill the dangerous animals so one idea is that the king protects the
Sent persons by hunting and also is taking training when there is a war then the king already is knows how to uh use arrow and uh other weapons and in this way he can win Wars against his enemies so these are these two uh functions
Of hunting for the king and that is all Lord according to shastra the duties of the king when we go uh to this kingdoms capitals like like you go to jaur uh you go to the Palace of the king and then what you’ll see entering the palace you will see Lions not lion
Tigers heads everywhere Ton’s heads hanging everywhere the king in displaying his Valor his power uh he has gone to the forest he has killed tigers and this is very good uh the king is very strong and people appreciate or our King is very strong in this way but killing generally cannot be
Done and this is is taken as an exception for the chatas otherwise it is a sinful activity so practically speaking in know the V system every will have different occupations and activities and as mention in bhag Krishna says that every even following your own VNA Faithfully still you may have to commit
Some sinful activity so killing animals generally is sinful that is not very good even for a king he has to discriminate he has to be very careful not indiscriminate killing should be done with intelligence and sense of discrimination and sometime there’s opposite reaction also in the case of pandu
Pandu was also hunting and he killed one animal and they are two together husband and wife animals and the husband uh or the wife forgot uh cursed P that you will also be killed in the same manner if you associate with your wife then at that time you will die
And that is how pondu died associated with madri so this uh Vana even if you follow properly Vanna Dharma vanam Dharma but still there will be some Sometimes some sinful activity propa also gives mention that vas engageing business activities they have a shop maybe and attracting customers and the shop owner he’ll tell
The customer for you I don’t make any profit This Is A Lie without profit the shop owner cannot survive he is lying that is sinful activity but that is part of his occupation he has to lie practically speaking he has to lie so sudas engage in serving other but if
His master is a a sinful person SOS shudra will serve his master so indirectly he’s also taking some of the sinful activity of his master even the chhatria also chhatria protect the citizens that is the first duty of the chria but if the citizens are engaged in sinful activities
Then the king also has to take reaction one3 or 25% of the uh Papa Karma of the citizen that has to be accepted by the king so this is life in the material world is always dangerous we may try to be very careful following our duty and but uh
Somehow other because of the natural uh material circumstances we are doing something wrong and we have to suffer also the reaction I was mentioning that when s that taken us on the work morning work coming back from the morning work this Maham Swami Temple president he asked thead prad I heard that the
Kings they although they are very good and they are protecting the citizens but they also have to take oneir of the papa Karma of the citizens so is it also I’m Temple president uh he do I have to take also uh one third of the papa of the brah saying that
Temple one no 100% Temple president be very careful anyway living in the material world is uh has to be done very very carefully it needs complete education in Krishna conscious that is the only solution otherwise we are going down and down and down by surrendering to Krishna Krishna will take us by
Approaching a spiritual master and taking the spiritual Master’s instructions as our life and soul then we can be delivered from this dangerous position of living in the material world uh and otherwise there is no other solution chanting H har Krishna H har Krishna Krishna Krishna H H we see howu went to the forest just like the chatas are going to the forest but he didn’t go there to kill animals he went there to make these animals devotees of the Lord wnas tigers and other dangerous animals snakes and uh uh they all became devotees of the Lord by
Participating in the Nam San of Lord Chet in the forest of jarika huh second one yeah so that is The Wonder of Krishna Consciousness that even the animals also can participate and um not giving up this Envy malice and hatred of others uh but accepting that the Lord
Lord Krishna is the Supreme Lord and everybody’s Duty uh is to render service to him we are all Brothers we are talking sometime politicians are talking about Universal Brotherhood that’s like in the French Revolution 1789 they had a slogan three-fold slogan um Liberty equality fraternity three-fold slogan political
Slogan so people thought all this is very good very good Liberty yes I want to be free equality oh why not no problem fraternity all right Brotherhood so Universal Brotherhood is also now we hear these politician they are also trying to attract the people uh by this slogan but these political slogans have
No value unless they are based on the spiritual platform as long as as we do not understand who is the common father how can we consider ourselves all all of us to be brothers because this Universal father we are Universal Brothers otherwise it doesn’t make any sense otherwise the consideration is
That we are all living independently you you have your own life you have your own life everybody has his own life How can there be Universal Brotherhood animals they have their own lives trees and plants so it has to be based on the spiritual understanding that Krishna is the father
And we are Spirit Souls we are the progeny of Lord Krishna that is the understanding so Krishna Consciousness is only solution to establish Universal Brotherhood not only among human beings but also among animals as exemplified by animals also can’t participate so that’s whyu was telling Lordan M pru there are
Three ways of chanting har Krishna you can Chine silently you can Chine by moving the lips up and down hearing for yourself and you can shant loudly so the best har Stu was telling that if you chant loudly then the benefit will also go to everyone else anyone who
Hears the sound vibration will take the spiritual benefit of the mahamantra so that was his answer to therefore the Nan is the solution to establish Universal peace and Brotherhood otherwise is simply political slogan which has no value whatsoever so that is the uh King ponana although he seems to be very
Honest a very good soul and uh living comfortably in the city of n Gates now he wants to explore the world for the sake of Discovery uh new sense enjoyments so that should not be imitated that is a lesson we are taking from this story of King ponana any other questions or comments
Har Krishna shat bhat J J
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