Yeah He A got T I appreciate you getting all dressed up hey man brother little something something roro come on gotta represent but why you got the button all the button all the way up to the it like you got chest ha you trying to you trying not to show I’m trying to have no
Neck like you Ro no first of all you know it it don’t matter cuz guess what uh there’s neck there’s brain everybody ain’t able everybody ain’t able you know some folk wish they had all of this good looks and knowledge oh come on now should be so lucky yeah you you should
Be so lucky don’t blame me blame who you birth you don’t climb back up in there and come back out again let me get a redo let me get what they call a mulligan let me get a mulligan I I couldn’t pick y’all right
Me get a m you know what KS me when people say say stupid people see my parents and I post them they like man you look you look like both your parents uh du who the hell am I supposed to look like well you know in the black
Community you know sometime the parents don’t match no no no all my match you your parents but lot all all all my stuff match a lot of remarriages done man so let me tell you something this F first it wasn’t funny cuz I think my dad
Literally if he was not a true man of Peace uh he with h he was going to probably choke the out of this woman we we at this event and we’re sitting at the table man and uh and I don’t know what and I we know who the
Hell this woman was but he had said some something uh about wife kids uh and uh she goes uh well you sure uh you sure he uh you don’t have any other kids wow my dad went wow what did you say yeah he should now see that look I know
That look yeah yeah yeah you grew up with that look I looked at her like oh like oh this this about this about to go dentes out right this about to go sideways so I had to like I said uh I don’t know who you talking
And my dad was no no no I got he this this how not lady see see when a black man when the black man start now lady right there I knew so I had like like going need y’all to move this woman to the table cuz it’s about to be some
Furniture moving up in here she actually threw that out there like that disrespectful right yeah yeah yeah she was implying she was trying to start something oh she was trying to start something she’s about to end something yeah yeah her life she about to answer
Well it cuz it Tri me out like I I’ll meet people and they’ll say what you you don’t have kids I’m like yeah there’s a black man who’s 52 who does not have kids yes who could have kids and one one of them right you know and then then I
Had this one and you know church people you know church people trip overrated anyway but go ahead you know church people trip trip okay they really trip and so we at church and this one it’s probably it’s probably first two three years we were married and now we at
Church and she she she she pressing about uh uh ain’t no baby in the bun y don’t have kids you know and so I answer the question my Jackie she answer so we trying to be all cordal and she keep pressing right and she keep pressing right finally I’m like hey we
and that run with the equipment now let’s be clear okay God wants to have kids it’s going to happen right but we that part and now Jack was like that part I was like look I tried I tried to answer the question nicely the church way yes I
Tried to answer nicely yes calmly professionally but she kept bugging yeah and I said okay I’m just going to have to go ahead and make it plain bust in the head with with with with words see that’s the thing everybody want you have kids until it’s time to babysit
Then they go scattered yeah okay no yeah but I just I just want I just need her to understand and I as like I don’t get that I don’t get that I don’t I don’t I’ve never asked somebody when going to have kid when you going to have kids or
Or or uh when you get married when you go sell down I ain’t matter of fact I don’t even do you do you have do you do you have friends who say hey gu can you introduce me to some of your friends I don’t even do that I know I know look I
Know my friends I you would be none of my damn friends trust me I know them either I wouldn’t do that to any woman I just don’t even I see I don’t even I don’t even look I ain’t playing no love connection I’m my
Whole no I don’t every time I did it it it didn’t go right right I did with Nick Cannon years ago and that didn’t go right with Selena I did it with well well I mean we all we all we talking about Nick I mean I mean what when you
Say it didn’t go right what she didn’t have a baby well no I mean they got married didn’t well he didn’t get married but it didn’t work out uh um um ali um Ali’s daughter and her version didn’t work out yeah Leila and that didn’t work out so so you said I’m
Retired from the max making business I’m good yeah I just don’t I people don’t even ask me I’m good like brother you don’t have any no y I let them get it out their mouth no no I ain’t got it no you you ain’t got a f brother no no no
Cuz I ain’t trying to be caught the middle either you know I ain’t trying to CU now that splits the Friendship ain’t going to happen and that happened I I tell my cats you can’t sleep within the circle and we got a a group of friends we hanging out and there you
Know coed yo cuz once you try to smash somebody in the circle it don’t go right messes up the whole circle so now somebody don’t want to come around when they don’t want to come around and now we got to be deprived of the fun of one friend because y’all done smash didn’t
Go right it happens right well what that’s how it was uh you know for an our fraternity chapter yeah now you you don’t you don’t get in the way of the Brotherhood you don’t sit here and and in fact way way it went down with us is
If you were interested in dating a sister who dated another brother right you had you had to go to that brother and seek permission woo oh yeah no no no we cuz the whole deal was your same thing we ain’t letting anything get in the way of the Brotherhood right and
That’s just and again that that is just some things some that you don’t do because just what you said you value you value the close knit you value the camaraderie you value that and when you do that that brings drama everything else yeah I me and my
Boys in St Louis we had a pack man we don’t want to mess with anyone’s you know current past or even somebody interested in it’s it we don’t do it right just don’t do it just respect but La they got a different code dude they live by a different code out here they
Go after your wife behind your back which which one which one of them Jackson uh married uh the ex wife of the brother Jackson or thees it I don’t know could be both but I know I know I know it’s the Jackson one of married the ex-wife of another brother that that
Would not I’mma tell you right now I don’t want Joe been up here no offense no disrespect to the women Joe I’m tired of come behind Joe in life period I ain’t damn sure a trying to come behind Joe in the bedroom how Okay
Y y’all go y’all go at it and like we ain’t got the same PS like like right me right it’s like y’all got different P so people ask me they like okay do guy and Joe do they get along is that an act they people ask me that yeah man well we
Our family unions are funerals usually that’s only unions are funerals see at a funeral when somebody pass away no we we you know we we we have our Seasons man it’s it’s actually seasonal it it depends on you know I’m I’m tripolar cuz Joe’s Joe let let’s just be
Honest Joe’s Joe period I say anything anybody who know Joe know what the hell I’m talking about Joe’s Joe oh okay you say you tripolar I’m tripolar so I have to adjust which moves going to deal with Joe you know Joe is just Joe Joe Joe’s Joe all the time
That’s a problem why why is that a I mean just but it’s like if that’s just who he is right and that’s what I had to accept I had to accept that you know what that’s who he is you can’t get blood out of aernal it you ain’t going
To get nothing other than Joe so what okay so what’s the age difference between y’all four years four years yeah all right so was it like that growing up no I didn’t get like that until I moved out me when I first to La me and Joe Liv
Together right and it was that was a big blessing because I didn’t have to worry about paying rent you out here struggling doing my thing and that was a big big help and then I think when I moved out I think that’s when I saw the
Division because I think Joe I Joe felt like I didn’t need him anymore right I wasn’t that was like I’m a grown ass man two grown ass men well actually but actually that’s well that is true you don’t need anymore when you grw up me
First of all you when you grow up it’s like hey you help and this time you get your ass on out the house and go do your own thing right he didn’t want me to move out but I’m like you know what at the time when I moved out I mean what
Were you paying the light bill paying anything and I said you know what I need to I need this responsibility it’s going to make me work hard at my career if I know I got rent to pay I got bills to pay I paying a cell phone bill that was
It but Joe was treat me like a little Butler like because I’m telling you I was like Benson I’m telling you man please fetch me some water he was using Jedi Mind Tricks yo man you still make them good grilled cheese sandwich you made when you was little yeah man no you
Don’t you next I’m at at the stove flipping like I’m going show his ass yeah exactly and then it D to me this didn’t trick me he didn’t trick tricked me again got me again but but yeah so I think that’s when kind of the you know the the division or the the
In started man when I moved out and then and then I started working working working working working working after I think that’s when it started see that’s just I mean look I mean my my whole deal is well and and and and and obviously that’s different because first you’re
Also in the same space you’re in the same uh industry you’re sort of in and so you got so you got that going on uh and uh and people always talk about you know sibling robbers as well but it it it’s just for me knowing both of y’all
Knowing both of y’all and then talking to both of y’all and when the other name come up is like damn like Dark Cloud right and I’m like what’s up it’s dark cloud for sure man yeah and I keep the piece cuz you know cuz of mom now now now now has your mama
Had to sit like look I need to sit y’all too down you know what she hasn’t at the same time but she just oh I’m praying for y’all you know she get the little Terence Howard shaky voice oh I’m praying for y’all Lord have mercy I’m praying for
You pray for Joe that’s SA that’s cold they said that sat that’s cold that’s cold cold blooded so there so we will never see a a Tori and Tory like Law Firm project let me tell you something there’s been several uh wait till the fat Tuesday documentary come
Out there been several people have been trying to do stuff with Joe and I and it just did not work we we are y’all like Sam Jackson and Bernie Mack and in and uh was it Soul Man brother it’s like yeah it’s it’s it’s definitely like that it for real like we
We’ve been in Pitch rooms man and and the the the fake uh animosity turned into real animos you know you show you got to show the conflict right it was it got too real for Hollywood so so there’ll be no real brothers of Hollywood no it’ll be one
Episode it’ be like the Richard Pride show yeah yeah exactly there be a presentation and that’s it like I don’t think we make it past the sism damn y’all would even do the pilot you see no no no yeah it wouldn’t make it y would even get you
The pilot in the sizzle it would Sizzle out it the sizzle would fizzle that is crazy yeah it ain’t going to happen that is crazy a lot of zeros got a lot of zeros behind that thing and it got to be the right project for for for us to come
Together wow yeah absolutely that is crazy and I’m not shy about saying that you that is crazy I’m not in a whole hiding the family oh we N I just keep it 100 so y’all love each other but we don’t like each other that’s it we like
We love each other we love each other don’t like each like each other it’s like spy versus spy one of us I’m never trying to sabotage Joe but uh been some sabotaging going on on the other side man man I’m jebra Owens America’s wealth coach and my new show get wealthy
Focuses on the things that your financial advisor and Bank isn’t telling you but you absolutely need to know so watch get Wealthy on the Black Star Network You and I had this conversation what’s up with you in fighting what do you mean me in fighting man we because you I’m a lover no uhuh uhuh we what was we were talking you like yeah I will fight somebody that you said that was a period
Where you would just somebody would tick you off man and y’all would just oh yeah yeah I got like wasn’t a podcast or something oh yeah yeah that was unst was the podcast was called unstabled could people talking and you were like man we from this the next thing I
Know yeah like physical yeah physic cuffs yeah straight up like boom boom boom boom boom yeah yeah it was it was you know what you know what Roland is that back to that tripole is that what that that that wasn’t tripolar uh that was you know uh short man
Complex that was that was me being uh you know you know how it is with comedians man we you know with radio with TV you got to go right in there and sometimes you know you going to say what’s on your mind and sometimes a lot
Of times I say it at the wrong time it happened it happened at NBA entertainment League I was playing basketball and I’m all people know that talk right I Joon on everybody well one particular time we playing a game and the dude who was um shooting free thr I
Said a joke about his mom my mama joke and I didn’t know his mom had just passed away right you know and like recent recent and he and he snapped and I had a run our test moment but it was just bad timing on what I said but you
Also didn’t know I didn’t know but then when the story got back around it was like I knew and I said I a give a damn like that was far from the truth so with the podcast same thing it was you know I told my co-host oh I’m I’mma hit you
With a topic we going to keep it fresh radio can you handle that yes boom I hit him with this thing and he snapped and he apologized later and we you know we cool now ain’t as cool as we used to be let’s keep it 1,000 um cuz once you go
Once you go fist to CU the the Friendship changes it so so I was it’s bad timing on my part and and maybe a bad reaction on his part and we we fought and it made it made the it made the podcast a little tough after that
But it was still fun we still were professionals and showed up and did our thing but it just wasn’t the same it kind of It kind of did mess up the chemistry a little bit so how so how that was just two of the recent most recent fight right two of the most
Recent fights my neighbor not too long ago to last year that was another shorter guy so when you talk about okay let’s talk about time police couple times too but go ahead talk about you talk about timing um we’re now operating where a lot a lot of comedians
Are just not feeling this era we’re in now with social media with people with phones and and all this sort of stuff and it’s and and I’ve been one of the people and has always said that uh the that if there’s any place that has to remain pure mhm and unfiltered it’s
Absolutely the comedy stage absolutely because I just like I don’t like folks sit here oh you know like with these college campuses and other people and I’m and this is the way I look at it and this woman told me and I said I’m sorry I go to a comedy show mhm fully
Expecting MH everybody to get talked about mhm I said I don’t I said I’m not going to a keynote speech right like I know what I’m going to so I’m not sensitive I mean I I I I I really don’t I I don’t I don’t it’s funny you say
That just a couple of weeks ago I had old black man tried to rush the stage and whoop my ass I was in what was that Virginia Beach I think I was in Virginia Beach and uh I was asking the gentleman had he had his prostate exam yet cuz I
Do you know in my ACT I like with that platform I want to make sure black men go to the doctor right black don’t go to the doctor right so I was saying about how I had my proess exam sir have you had yours his wife was like speaking for
Him and loud and I was like ma’am I’m asking the gentleman and she just kept going on loud I ma’am and I did the old Rober Harris joke you know uh somebody please put something in on mou my zipper stuck right you know and and then five
Minutes later I guess it sunk in later cuz I’m in the middle of another joke and he gets up and you know you remember the scene in New Jack City when the old man was like n know he came to the stage like do ever tell my wife to suck your
Dick again I’m like what that was five minutes ago you just did that just hit you don’t ever tell my wife I’m like sir I was trying to be nice and d and like but she wouldn’t shut up she would and I didn’t even say I just I just motioned
Down here I didn’t even say it right but you know what I I implied it and I was just like yo you had a comedy show she was disrupting the show to the point to where like people like Yay ma’am calm down be quiet and she she didn’t so I
Went there and then it sunk in later and I had the whole table put out and I normally don’t do that but but you know the young guy at the table I thought it was his father it wasn’t he was like I’m sorry man I’m sorry I said you know
Maybe he didn’t maybe blood sugar high or low maybe maybe he need to eat a Snickers candy bar he just snap but this whole culture of you know um councel culture man only two people can councel me God and myself if my fan base Rock With Me
If if I FL and make it say something that’s sideways you you’re not going to judge my whole 29e career off of one joke or one one flub line right and we had a guy in office who had a whole bunch of going on and he still was elected and and and still
Unfortunately relevant to this day so I had I saw Damen ways not too long ago man in Miami At The Improv and he was just man funny raw uncut truthful and I was just like that’s stand up comedy right that’s that the reason why we
Got into it l brues the Richard PRI you know the the the the you know Chris rocks and I said I told him that Paul Mooney I told him that I said hey man that was he said man he had a conversation with Chappelle and they said you know this canser culture thing
Is getting crazy and we got to take the mic back and I was like yeah and it needs to be more comedians who just you know I think what what got lost rolling is the intent sometimes you can say something that’s vul and the intent
Behind it is to d da but when we do stuff the intent is just fun and games having fun joking about it every no one’s safe you know what say I had a woman the intent that that gets lost I had a woman who we we were discussing
This and she said yeah but but why do you have to get purchas I said that’s what it is and I I start walking through I I told her I said I said you ever seen Don Rickles woo I said Don Rickles insulted everybody everybody we say St
Louis did not matter everybody he insulted every I said Don Rickles was funny as hell yeah and his best friend was a black guy I said but I said that I say it now that was his act that was his stick I see if you go to a if you went
To Don ricko’s show don’t be sensitive I open my show with that I say look I’m uncut unplugged if you sensitive this ain’t the show for you I need you emails and comment cards you know cancel him cancel these nuts I’m sorry you ain’t canceling me I just I mean it just it
Really it it it it it bothers me man because um because I get it I I I I get do your point you get what the point is the the point is and like I said something before I said comedians say stuff that we really want to say that we
Can’t say but the point is it’s a lot of stuff comedians say that’s truthful as hell right that but they make it funny right and we laugh because we also think the same thing right and I’m like yo I’m like first of all you got to understand
Commedians most of us are Dark Twisted individuals on the inside something’s wrong with us on the inside we’re broken we do comedy because we want people to laugh with us we need that whatever void that is that we have we want that filled with laughter a lot of us make a lot of
People laugh but we don’t laugh ourselves so it’s therapy for us we do comedy to to bring laughter to bring light to our dark insides you know that’s why you see some comedians with depression so many comedians uh on drugs overdose or whatever we’re we’re dark creatures and that but that dark our
Comedy brings light to that Darkness it gives us a little bit of light when we see an audience laughing or we make even one person laugh that’s that’s good for us and we’re kind of control freaks right we want to control we do I heard a
Statement when it says we do comedy CU we’re so afraid of getting laughed at we do stand up to control the laughter M and and and a lot of that is true for most ComEd I know it’s true for me I’m just going to be honest I can’t speak
For every other comedian but as you analyze and look at Comedians and talk to in our community it’s it’s it’s like that that’s why comedians you know can make such great dramatic actors if they take their comedy ego out the way and allow them to tap into that dark side
When you see comedians do work I’m not surprised that they’re good dramatically a lot of my work has been uh dramatic more than comedy you look at um Richard prior who who has some some dramatic work where you look at this stuff you look at Eddie Murphy people thought you
Know Dream Girls was the first time they saw Eddie dramatic no in the movie Life yep y sisy Tyson was in life she got completely cut out there’s some SC she played Eddie Murphy’s mom there’s some scenes in that movie where her and Eddie
Go off and they talk and I and and and this is before dream girl and I was like Wow Ed got some got some R I didn’t know he had that R I know he had range characters but he went deep with that I was like wow well you Robin Williams
Robin Williams um Billy Crystal um even Kevin Hart with Kevin Hart um independent movie Russ par uh uh syndicated radio DJ did a movie called The Last Stand and Kevin Hart plays this this comic who the ventriloquist who who has a meltdown with his with his dummy
And back then I said Woo EV if Kevin ever decides to go dramatic which he did in in in one a recent movie he released he’s going to be he’s going to be tight because he was able to take his commedy ego and tap into that dark side and
That’s what we have to do you know and and and then that’s what makes you know comedians who act who are who who make themselves vulnerable great actors Marlon wayes another one who Taps into that dark side and and and does great work the the would be Goldberg yeah the the the the
Monique yeah impression y absolutely funny but it was able to tap into that dark side the art of not the art the science you talk about uh the craft one of the things that um I’ve had other conversations with with comedians what drives them
Crazy and we saw this a lot M with the second iteration of Death Jam and knowing you you probably try to blame it on Joe um when you had when you had this this generation of comedians who just came out just cussing and that was nothing there it
Was it was and and I I remember who was I talking to it was was was a group of us several comedians they were saying That’s not comedy right that that you’ve got to put the work in the craft when you when you came to the DC Improv we
Were talking backstage and and you went on with his big ass legal pad uhhuh and your pen and you said all right y’all let y’all know I’m working through some stuff so if I go back and look at look at my notepad just understand that right
So walk us through what is your process in terms of it’s not just like oh just pops into a head what is your process as you are putting putting your thing together putting your routine together your act together how how you how you going through that well first of all I
Used to never come on stage with a notepad I and I thought you know even it’s in a comedy club I mean that that’s the show you do that work before you get there but then I saw some of my heroes do it and I like whoa I saw Robin
Williams do it at the ComEd store I saw George Carlin do it at the comedy store I saw Dick Gregory do it in a live show taping a show and he had his notepad and I’m like wow and then Dion Cole you made it made it popular back on death back in
The day when he used to do the whole check off thing that was he he he he you know he killed with that so I’ve seen those I’m like you know what it’s okay right it’s okay if these greats done it well how T TV anchors have no cards
That’s true with the questions on it that’s true so I started doing that and also people got to understand what a comic Club is Comic Club is the gym that’s where you go work out that’s where you work out that stuff that that you’re trying out and and trimming the
Fat off of a top of and and that’s the gy that’s where you it out then you go to these other platforms these streaming networks you know and you know Amazon Prime or the the other competitors cuz I’m I’m Amazon Prime guy uh I messed that money up drop drop
These other these other platforms all those late night shows the the talk shows at night that’s the gym that’s the beach that’s when you take your shirt off and you Flex a little bit in comic clubs that’s the nuts and bolts you know the last Factory is called Laugh Factory
For a me for a reason cuz what are you do in factories you build right and that’s what comic clubs are we’re building our act some people confuse a a a comic club uh show with a theater show or an arena show got it you know they’re not the
Same and the bin over the window seats these are the only bins that will accommodate larger Roll they put 10 in here 10 and you don’t come out till you die you eat him God Chris Rock told the New York Times what what he hated about folks who would who would tape shows at a comedy club he said you don’t understand he said we’re polishing the joke we’re working it through he said I might do a number of shows and that joke might just might be
20 25% there so you’re commenting on something that I haven’t finished building yet that’s like ugly babies there’s some ugly babies out there you can’t that ugly baby May grow up to be beautiful may you know and I’ve actually said that’s ug ass baby don’t cute but you understand the baby
Ain’t grew into his features and face yet so our acts are ugly babies period and but the other thing is and one further with with Chris Rock said is if if we if we’re doing a bit and we’re working on it and you go post it and it
Goes viral whether it’s good or bad when we do our special for that Network or that streaming platform they’re not going to want that joke so now I got to take that joke out of my set cuz it’s been seen already it’s been viral already so now that joke really probably
Connected my whole set so now I got to take that out and now it it it messes with your set so in many way it’s sort of like well it used to be when artists put albums together right so the the the flow of the S the flow album uh uh work
For a certain reason the same way a preacher constructs a sermon same thing with standup show should be most it’s the difference between a comic and a comedian right so I was going to ask you that cuz you talk you go ahead go ahead a comic says funny things a comedian make things
Funny you know if when you go to a comedy show you you you you want to leave with a piece of that comedian you want to take a piece of that comedian home with you you know you want you want that comedian to be transparent and vulnerable and let you in comedians do
That Comics are just set up punt set up punch you know nothing about them you laugh the whole time you had a good time at the show right but then you’re like you don’t know who that person is a comedian take takes his life or takes situations and make them funny back to
Eddie Murphy you know Kevin Hart these are comedians I’ve worked with Martin these comedians I work with acting wise right and I’ve seen what was in that script I’ve seen how those words are written on that page right and they take it those words and what they do to it
They make it funny as hell that’s a comedian that’s someone who who took somebody else’s writing and put the it’s like it’s like a basketball you know you give me a basketball it’s a basketball get that same basketball to Michael Jordan that same ball right that basketball in his hands is something
Totally different so sometimes with those guys and then with me a little bit when I add lib and Cedric is the same way when you at Li and Bernie was just in the movie Life Bernie was just the king at it they take words on a page and
They put they stank on it and they made it funny you don’t have some people you don’t have to write funny for right they going to find it or you write it they going to find funny right you know so my process is is I write a lot I I write
Word for word and then I Then I then I go through i bullet point it then I may study it and then I may I go on stage and I’ll just have the topics then so I can look back and see what flows so my process is that and and everybody’s
Process is different yeah you know like rappers you say Jay-Z never written anything down or or biggy didn’t write anything down some some rappers got to go on there with the pad a’t nothing wrong with that so it depends on how your brain works uh how you like the
Work how you process information and and if it’s your story you don’t have to write too much down anyway see the thing that the thing um see when you made that point about coms comedians comics and comedians so um we we first met when you Dro by George
Lopez’s uh show yeah and George for two years Geor asked me to host it and came off you like your ass funny I knew he be before then I never seen you do stand up but I wouldn’t even do I wouldn’t even do yeah I’m telling it was it was a show
We we met we met long before that but I saw you on stage for the first time um you know I course see you in the Tom Jones it was a theater was a theat downtown LA is an orphan theater and and and DL was on the show you was on the
Show Georgia said hey I want you to want you to be the host I was like all right I didn’t expect it and I’m like oh that’s that’s that’s roll mtin and then and everybody was like yeah we know like cuz you wasn’t on the ticket no right
And and and you came out there you slay the audience I was like oh snap okay and I came backstage and I told you I was like yo but it was a great Arenal was on the show everybody killed from from top to bottom see the
Thing that the thing that I the thing that the thing that what I tell people is is it’s sort of like when cuz again mcing I’ve MC Banquets right the purpose of the MC and the banquet want to keep that show moving keep moving keep it
Going but also you got to be smart enough and quick enough to know when something was weak when something was bomb when something happened the music not right the choir not ready the wars got lost or whatever and so you are totally operating with no without a net
Yes and there are some people who are TV anchors or there are some people who I’ve seen like a lot of people think every comedian can MC no no sir because it’s when you’re doing that it’s a lot of stuff that comes up that you have no
Control over but your job is to is to keep that whole thing together and people will sit here man and they will uh they will uh they’ll be like how in the hell did you where in the hell did that come from I’m like yo I can’t tell
You see you as as an MC you’re almost you’re quarterback in the show Absolutely you’re you’re you’re because sometimes you have to read the audience and you may have a certain uh list of things you want to talk about but you got to read the room and you be able to
You gotta be able to Omaha out that like like like p man you got to be able to you see the defense giving you something strange or you see the audience not going in a certain direction you got to Omaha and switch gears and still keep it on point and
Make it seamless I got to we did we did a deal we did it was a CBC uh and uh Henry over there Henry was shooting bro they had me MC it it was congression Black Caucus Foundation ALC and it was the Michigan party so they had this awards ceremony and stuff those
Are hard to do and dude it was black when black people get dressed up tuxedos it changes them BR didn’t care they I know but I’m saying to them right they booty hole tight up didn’t care we sitting in this bad boy sitting in this
Joint and it was an arena cuz after us it was either Johnny or Eric B performing after that so man we s on and they yeah he yeah yeah he was like Ila you would like Lea half the way she Ain never got her shoes on so we s so they forgot the
Awards they forgot the awards so is this is an award show they were they were handing out Awards forgot the actual got the actual Awards bro that was gold yes yes do you know I that I stayed with that bit the whole the it was at every then I started then they
Handed us they had uh they had some lanyards right and they were like some ble some baned out lanyards and I’m like yo uh bring me six of those lanyards uh these are going to be the awards uh we’re going to hand out to the each recipient I’m dude and audience is
Like just now the dude who’s over the event like is bugging cuz he’s like you know it’s embarrassing us whatever so so there was like a break or something something so he pulls me back and he’s like yeah you know you know can you can you not mention anys can you not mention
Any awards know this is what happened blah blah blah and I was like okay and you know exactly what happened exactly when I went out to I said they told me let me tell y’all what just happened my man pulled me to the back said I can’t talk about who forgot the
Awards I said now we got three car companies here that sponsored it and y’all could have driven the awards here from Detroit in a Chrysler a Cadillac or doc I was s man Henry to to today Henry was start crying man remember cuz he was on camera shooting it dude and it was
Just one of those things where when you get in that pocket in that Pock oo dog say it again when you get in that dude that was I’m talking about I was slaying everything there no there’s no better space it’s better than a wet spot just I mean and and and again the
People don’t understand that and it’s again I’m not I am not trying to be you right and that’s the piece be yourself and you’re just naturally funny so it’s just like okay if you have if you got time if if you if you understand body you understand body movement facial
Expressions you know throw a certain look whatever it’s all it’s always it’s it’s it’s using all of that in the room cuz the point is I need to make the look y’all forgot the Awards come on now that’s a commun is dream I mean you forgot so conflict that’s we got to make
A dark situation of the awards it was a dark situation we made light of it that’s comedy every time and I’m telling you I every time comedy is a straight line that drops off when it’s not when you don’t expect it comedy if you can see it coming then it’s not funny dude
When you drop it off they wern’t expecting that no they weren’t they weren’t expecting we’ve had I I’ve done like I’ve had I’ve done some stuff I did EOC Z leadership counseling you talking about tight asses just TI like tight and it was like 3,000 people okay tuxed so
So oh all that all that all that all these these are all the black corporate people now now what’s what’s crazy is what’s crazy is I destroyed that stage now I don’t know why they inviting me back cuz I know for a fact I destroyed
The stage but it was one of those things that man they had a rehearsal I was like I don’t go to rehearsal no I go to rehearsal yeah I’ll go look at the set I I don’t even do that I don’t even need that like seriously but
When I give Keo speeches they say do you want to see ourm nope they said you like yeah they comedians who are like they said do you want to see I said no yeah I said they say um handheld headset don’t matter yeah cuz my whole deal is I know
What I’m do do you know it’s like that as kenon Ivy way I was at the ire One Night in Hollywood and he was show was going on and he was standing outside said you want to go in there and see what the other comedians talk about said
No I go I like to go I like to go into a room fresh with my own perspective I don’t want to be influenced by anything boom Keenan and that’s why he’s one of our Great pull up a chair take your seat the black tape with me Dr Greg Carr here on the Black Star Network every week we’ll take a deeper dive into the world we’re living in join the conversation only on the black star Network why I talked about process uh people think I’m lying when I tell them I don’t write speeches I can believe it just tell me how much time I got yeah that’s all I need and this I gave a speech of my this woman came to me she
Said oh my God she says I own a black newspaper we want to print the entire speech I said y’all got transcribed that some yeah she’s like what do you mean I said that wasn’t written yeah she said she said well did you have notes
Nope she was like I said I ain’t write the title down on the index card see and and and and and she was like well I said you got to transcribe I recorded it I said I I said I sent you the audio file I said but baby was none of that written
I did a standup Show competition show years ago which I regret I regret doing it I never should have I got talked into it I should have went with my first mind right it was on a major Network all right and before one of the tapings they wanted us to write
Our set out three weeks before the taping want to write our set out word for word and email it to him I’m like what I said okay I I’ll do it but those three weeks actually one of those weeks is when I saw you when you came to the
Show in DC Improv I was work it was the week before I did I was working on that set the same set I sent them I worked on it trimmed the fat off changed a couple of you know same set I just changed made some stronger punch lines blah blah blah
So I emailed the network uh couple days before and said hey I just want you to know I’m doing the same set I just changed a couple of things and I sent them a new you know some of the new stuff and because as you’re a stand up
You just stuff just come you you don’t s STP right so I so they said no they sent me email back said no you have to do exactly what you sent us the first time I see yeah but I I’ve been on a road for
Three weeks I tighten it up I made it funnier I made it better stick to the script or you won’t air and I emailed back I guess I won’t air so when I when I went and did the show I did it my way the way I changed
It the funny way and by the time air they edit that so crazy and had my set looking like uh disjointed jokes and punches and took the new stuff out and and I was just like wow that makes that make no sense see that’s see that’s the
Thing man major Network too yeah that’s the thing that that’s that’s the problem when when you have folks who want to be so scripted like like my show when I when I went to CNN we sat down and and they said um so we do a
Show let’s lay out the concept I said it’s a very easy concept I said it’s a very easy concept they were like what I said it won’t even take up the full page I said this is a scripted unscripted show yeah and they were like very Loosely scripted and they said um
What is that I said what it is is we have a script it’s a guide right I said and if changes or if I decide to flow somewhere else I said that’s the unscripted part in the moment I said if we’re boom I said if we’re sitting here like like if we’re
Sitting here having a conversation and you said uh and I’ve literally done this in interviews I’ve done this interviews where where someone will say something man uh man I would love to work with so and so uh but uh it just I just I I never met him or I just
Love and I will sit here when I Rance Allen I interview Rance Allen in DC and Rance Allen said man I would just love he said to do something with Eddie Levert EDD coolest too in the mil call Eddie Johnny Gill Johnny Gill said man
He said I I want to do a Christmas album a gospel album and he said um I said who you want to the gospel Alum he said Kirk Franklin John P ke I said oh wow have you ever talked about him he said he said he said
Uh he said yeah man Kirk said I never met John P ke so I faced I said l in the middle of interview Anthony go get my phone cuz I had him offset look at my phone now most folks like right like stop no no no no it’s organic get my
Phone I FaceTime John B ke right there it’s the it’s it’s that’s the thing that makes that and Johnny was like is this fool sitting the but he actually right right are we ly he like he actually FaceTime it and like in the middle right
First of all my show I own it so it ain’t like I got an executive going roll it ain’t right but that’s the thing man that that that people have to understand you let folk flow and do what they do and they’re going to deliver yes you
Just got to get the hell out the way yes that’s the key and a lot of a lot of host don’t know how to host and they in the way it’s about them it’s never about you it’s always about the guest but you’re there to guide that’s it and the
Audience right cuz you need cuz the thing is see for my whole deal is whether it’s a banquet whether it’s with I’m the keynote that’s why I like every time every time I start my before I start my speeches it’s literally five to 10 minutes of joking
Right yeah break the ice I want cuz see what happens is you got this whole program is probably boring as hell then they go through this long intro I’m like I don’t know why you reading all that I say it’s in the program
They no no no we got to read and so so it’s the whole set up and so now everybody’s like okay now I’m stand for the keyo speech and I get up there and just act I just act a fool for about 58 minutes and then go into the speech
Because I want to break them up I want them laughing I like like you know being being an alpha it’s always some omega or some Kappa at there talk H don’t nobody think about them don’t nobody think about them them and our oldest don’t think about they get attitude you got mad at
Me we was shooting something backstage uh my Wasington watch show Armstrong Williams big time black conservative Armstrong is a sigma so Jeff Johnson was there with his dad B rest in peace and Jeff Johnson dad was an alpha Jeff is now an alpha but he wasn’t one then so
Armstrong Jeff said hey want you meet my pops he said you know he’s he’s an alpha so you know we we we we grip and so Armstrong uh he said oh brother you and Al both y’all Alphas I’m a sigma and I I said and so and we had this thing called
The black room and we had the camera running and he said that I was like you know I ain’t never met many Sigma under 55 dog that for like two three years sigma’s man be tweeting me man that was wrong she was wrong and I was like
Well y’all relax I said I said it’s the Greek dozens I’m that’s what we do I’m like you just mad that joke hit and it hit like took the wind out of you when it hit that mean and other people think the same way but then so then when the
Sigma president came on the show he was not to look he said don’t you bring up that 55 a nerve under no hit a nerve and I was like I was like look I was like look I was like look so when I so when I
Give a speech dude it’s when you talk about it’s same thing when you mention homeg girl who was talking and the dude you pick out a few like yeah I’m going wear your ass out tonight every time it’s going to be it’s likely going to be a loud
Omega so we’re barking who I’m going you about to be the foil to my intro cuz and I’mma wear your ass dog I’mma wear your ass that’s why you can’t be so married to a script dude I can’t even God I’m not lying first of all again I don’t
Write speeches I don’t even decide I don’t even decide the title I I’ve I’ve settle on something and they’re introducing me and they finish and I get up mind you I’m only two seats over right and I will switch the entire thing yeah so the ability to be able
Just to completely just whatever happens I can throw that sucker out and I can just go with it and and and but people and people think and uh they think that you don’t put the work in no no no no you put the work in no I’m you I’m I’m
Visualizing because it’s funny when you talk about cutting the fat off when I go when I go on news shows four or five people host 8 10 minutes you you a’t you ain’t got 30 minutes get to the chase yeah get to so I’ll sit here and I like topic so I I
I’ll work on a phrase I work on I work on a I work on a right and I’ll sit there and I and I I I’ll refine it I’ll tighten it and hold it for the right moment that comes the viral thing got it yeah and that’s the
Thing that and I tell people you know look everybody has to your point about has different ways of doing method to the matter right but you just got to know how to sit here like my like my wife she she’s a ordained minister that when she getes a sermon she goes into
Like a cocoon she got like 18 10 books dude she’s like I’m like I’m half and I go I go what you doing she says oh I’m preparing for my sermon I said when she says oh it’s said 3ek I said three weeks what you doing doc she got she got so
Mad at me I did this Church in Chicago asked me to do three sermons I said all right so um we we in the car going and she says uh she says uh what you going what you going to preach about nope she’s like you got your scripture nope
She’s like what I was like don’t worry about it DOC I’m in the Pulpit I’m in the pulpit they have introduced me I say um after the choir sings this next song the next voice that you will hear will be R Martin I ain’t this choir is
Singing so I’m sitting there and I’m like glory Lord they singing I’m I’m listening follow me and I do this here glory Lord I did this I went open the Bible click note nope I see the scripture I take half of the line half of the scripture come up with the
Title see everybody everybody a like that and so I told wait so she went she so she sat there and I said don’t hate the gift she like said don’t hate the gift I said the Lord provided I said don’t hate the gift between me Joe and I too like
I’m Joe Joe’s that way too Joe you know as awesome as he is uh he you know his his arrogance and confidence and talent gets him through where me I’ll I’ll study and then I’ll throw it away so it’s there and then bam I’ll go I’ll go
For it I go into that little cocoon a little bit no no I I’m all about pray no a lot of preachers do that a lot of what they’ll do is they’ll go through all of that and then they’ll write it all out they’ll they’ll basically lock it in
Memory and then go out whereas I like I L I’ve written two speeches and I ain’t read from I was mad as hell I was all that damn time so it’s just it’s just a different a it’s a gift no it’s a gift call it what it is and people and but I
Tell people though don’t think that’s not work no oh yeah yeah cuz every day I can be Wasing I can be doing something but you’re thinking about it there you go yeah your brain don’t your I tell people that all the time your brain does not shut off creative when you are a
Creative your brain does not shut off I don’t care what what you doing your brain is always going to be created if you have something you got to do whether been a week the next day later at night your brain is going to be thinking about
It and that’s working right I don’t to physically write it down yeah but it’s working and we do that as it we do that as as people who snap a lot right we’re studying soon as we meet you we already studying if if you come at me I know
What I’m talking about we had so I had a segment on on on news one now and I’m going to bring it back to my show it’s called not Wednesday and I wanted to create cuz you on Joe was on so I wanted to create a segment a weekly segment to allow
Comedians to come on and talk about news stuff right and just what you said so we had comedians they come on they were like a they were like this news dude here and I was like okay okay and so you’re right the moment cuz see now they in the green
Room right there the but the moment they walk in that door I’ve already assessed your suit your tie your shoes your I I everything everything and and they just sitting here it’s hold like I had we had this one Comm Cletus Cletus Cletus going try to J joke about my hairline his name
Alone is right right there joke about my hairline and Cletus had gotten a haircut but his beard was still scraggly was still weird and so dude he tried to hit the hairline I said well clearly you couldn’t you could only afford a haircut dude when I I said I said could
You not afford the rest of it get a beard trim dude he he turned to the camera he was like I was like yeah and we gonna go to break and and and that’s a perfect time to break too boom AR J Dude AR J walked in there and ares
Thought he was going to crack on the brother see here’s the thing I you talk about fire back it was like T they were like what people don’t understand about us and Comedians and we I’m going involve you in that is that we’re like the Terminator when we when
We see you we already we already we already boom it’s like it’s like you watch Sherlock Sherlock Holmes the new one with Robert Downey Jr and before he fights and in his mind already okay boom there I’ve already I’ve already played the whole fight out so it’s like I’mma
Hit it’s like wait a minute it was like see people understand when you walked in first thing I’mma hit his jacket and I was like got on L right and I was like I’m I’mma hit his button all the way up and I’m like he look like a Smurf
I’m sitting here a ghetto Smurf and I’m sitting here then I’m like he look like a California Raisin I’m you’re right it’s like it’s like it’s like like the whole deal and I’m like he got them skinny jeans on it and and split is like cuz deal is
I know you doing the same thing and you know what and I’m going to be prepared and you know what it’s all love right it ain’t bullying people people thought ain’t no it’s like we want to what do we want join her people thought that uh they like man you
Ain’t got like each other I was like no we good I said but I said we going to go yeah I said that I said I said y’all sensitive with that it’s like cats man cats like oh man uh your neck I’m like first of all I see that coming right
That’s why I didn’t didn’t mention that but one time today but I that’s it that’s you can’t keep going there just like when people try to hit you being short you be all the time and I I love my shortness because short people live longer that’s what I
Heard really that’s my silver lining that’s your silver lining yeah let me go call a funeral home director uh tell me actually if you Google it tell me all the half-sized casket they got so yeah see you went there but that see that’s that here that that’s that was thinking outside the box
You didn’t go to the normal you know you went to home to cash half side yeah that’s yeah look somebody had to do it somebody had to do it I S what you did there well you see about live longer I went right there boom boom but that’s
The thing that people again don’t understand got too sensitive as as a society and Confused intent with just good oldfashioned that’s it hi I’m Dr Jackie Hood Martin and I have a question for you ever feel as if your life is teetering and the weight and pressure of the world is
Consistently on your shoulders well let me tell you living a balanced life isn’t easy join me each Tuesday on BlackStar Network for Balanced Life with Dr Jackie we’ll laugh together cry together pull ourselves together and cheer each other on so join me for new shows each Tuesday on BlackStar Network a balanced life
With Dr Jackie all right so who would you living we’ll start there and then we go de Seas who would you love to do a versus style battle in terms of in terms of comedy in terms of he’s like okay if the audience is there one mic One mic like when I talked to
Wayne Brady Wayne Brady said he would love to battle Jamie Fox well yeah because they’re similar right but if you if you I we know it ain’t gonna be Joe but if if you he know me and Joe had one of those okay we it it’s we talk about
It in my in my documentary Fat Tuesday doc but we had one of those and it was ugly it was we had one at the Comm store at Fat Tuesdays at our DVD release party and Joe was being Joe and and we went at it on
Stage and Joe always won like I would wouldn’t do it I would I would want to do with Joe yeah really yeah because Joe used to Joe always won these the the the these joning sessions right and and then that night I had a nerve and where he snapped on
Stage you went below the belt I went I didn’t know I was going below the belt you didn’t go below the belt you hit him in the ankles dude let me tell you I didn’t know at the time people knew what was going on I had bought this property
A duplex and you know me and Joe live next to each other but you know I I I bought it and Joe Joe Joe moved in and what you do raise the rent well we were going at it and Joe was winning I felt Joe was
IE was wi you needed you needed you pull a sunny listen put sprinkle something on my gloves and rub it in Ali’s eyes I said yeah I said yeah shut up that’s why I’m your landlord and I didn’t know the audience knew that I but the crowd went nuts and Chris Spencer was
Like and and it got to the point to where bear rest in peace Michel tell Pharaoh Big Bear came picked Joe off The picked Joe up off the stage and Carri out Bishop no Jones was there that night he would laid hands on y he came up to the end of the
Stage after the show was like I never heard a preacher anything cuss before he said you need to cut this out and I was like he cussed and said he said just y’all leaving too much money on the table but yeah so if I did a versus it
Would it would it would be with Joe and I would have to go below the belt because I would just have to I know it’s going to probably split the family and make them mad but I would just have to cuz we started talking about I is it
Because in that setting he’s he’s so quick he’s Joe’s Joe’s one of the best Joe’s one of the best man and and I mean a I mean just be honest a lot I learned I learned from right you know and everything Joe did I did hey did Joe
Play football in high school I played football in high school got and was better um uh Joe started acting I started acting and I’m better uh Joe was doing c stand up and I’m doing stand up and I’m better uh and and and and Joe wrestled I wrestled no Joe was
Better Joe was better at that but when Jonah shows better at that now see we okay remember we talking about being the pocket we had we at The OJ’s golf tournament and they they they like well we we need you to uh uh do the award ceremony I was
Like look man this my third time y’all ask me do something for free I said y’all going to be performing at a birthday party or anniversary party I’m letting y’all know that did happen my parents 50th with anniversary I called Ed I was like remember I told you going
Get get the call I said y this y’all ask me to do free full time y’all don’t sing for free I said so they had to do that yeah so they we we were at fire we at Firestone dude I went up there and I just I ain’t damn they were like
Joe Joe why don’t you come on Joe said hell no that mic too hot Joe said uhuh his ass he said I ain’t walking behind that we laugh about that but that’s one of those things that in fact it’s also you got to be Kenny Rogers no one to
Hold him no one to F like come on Joe Joe said I ain’t he said that mic too hot he said Ro got that thing go ahead but that but that we talking about when in in the pocket when you just I was in the pocket one time so
In Cleveland man improv back in the day man and I had to pee bad before I went on stage and I toughed it out for like 40 45 minutes but I had to pee I was going to pee on myself I’m I ain’t peeing myself on stage and but I had was
So in a pocket man I said y’all hold up I got to pee like a I put the mic down I ran through the kitchen went to the bathroom came back picked up where I left off and they were still there and and and the level never dropped the energy never dropped waiting
But you only do that when you’re in a pocket if you sitting up there and looking at they looking at you like you took your dick out in church you you better not leave that stage cuz they be popping up like to getting up out of there I’m good with
That visual I’m good I’m good I’m good you know when they look at you like you ever talk to a dog and they look at you like they turn their head trying to understand if if you on stage and they doing that yeah you you better not you
Ain’t in the pocket you ain’t even you ain’t even in the suit you ain’t even a button on that mother and something you said earlier about sound B man and and that’s so important when you do media and you do things and and Tony Wy our
Good friend Tony Wy man taught me he talking sound bites forget all talking sound bites have what you’re going to say ready and just talking sound bites and I never forgot that is there a so you’ve done a lot of stuff but what do you really want to do that you have
Not done is there a movie is there a spe D really Direct direct What I’ve Done dramas I’ve done direct the movie direct the comedy special D like direct what I want to I would well documentary for one you know Reggie hland the great Reggie hland directed The Fat Tuesday Doc and
Standing there watching him and Byron Phillips do what they do uh inspired me but I want to I want to direct um I want to direct the doc but then I also want to move into scripting you know uh I I I have an interesting way of pulling
Performances out of people even as an actor but even as little things I directed that right that you know wasn’t you know produced on a mass level but it’s all about energy it’s about eye contact it’s all about you know I’ve been on enough movie sets and even when
I’m not in the scene I’m sitting back and I’m studying watching studying I’m studying what and I cuz I started as a PA in this business as a production assistant on A Martin Show so I was always back then sitting back and watching what a producer does what a
Director does what a grip does what a you know learning everything um and and you be just become a sponge cuz I knew one day you know I’m going to be in that position that’s why I’m not I don’t I’m the same person I’ve always been because
I saw myself doing everything that I’ve done and more and you got to see it and my faith is so strong I ain’t worried about it it’s something my mom said uh when my Pops passed away and I said Mom you arrogant I said I see what Joe gets
It from you’re arrogant you know my mom told me and I didn’t understand it then I just started understanding it last year she said I’m not arrogant I’m spiritually bold I’m like what how only arrogant person would say that but then it sunk in and spiritually
Bolded she had so much Faith yep in God that she ain’t worried yep she ain’t worried and that’s hard for a lot of people to handle yeah it’s I’m still I’m still balancing it I still get a little anxiety and then I’m like wait a minute God’s in control what you tripping off
Up yep we see we question God like he ain’t got receipts we question God like he ain’t got receipts like we we treat God like a black man or Odo with Louis Vuitton bags or Gucci bags let me J did you buy those I work for L time what you
Talking about you know what I mean so we got to quit questioning God like he ain’t got receipts he didn’t brought us out of so many things and brought us through so many things but we still like I don’t know right right and we got to quit doing that well always good
Chopping up with you yes sir uh we only paid for 60 Minutes of parking so you got to get the hell out of here so we got damn it oh that’s tow truck right all right baby always love you boy appreciate it man appreciate it yes sir
All right he going to get a photo man that was that F I can talk for hour Jer share it I want to take up the queen time can I oh please do after we done did y’all take y hold on three two one hold on stay right there hold on we
Got to get one only one hold on Cherry Cherry Sherry Sherry why you buing Sherry Sherry I need you you said what now I He
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