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Well hello there you beautiful beautiful people I hope you are all feeling absolutely amazing because then you’d be on par with the way that you look because let me tell you you’re looking absolutely amazing today so yeah let’s hope we all have an amazing day before we get into some meat and

Potatoes we got some stuff to talk about we have long considered Brian coburger could he have done it of course he could did he do it who knows I just hasn’t been enough seen that’s my opinion some people have seen what there is to see and they have made the conclusion that

There is indeed enough some people have seen what there is to see and perhaps seeing stuff that isn’t really relevant perhaps not even true and made up their mind there will always be sheep sadly you know that that situation where people run in a direction that someone

Else is running I don’t really know where they’re going they don’t know where they’re heading but because that person’s running in that direction that just appears to be a good idea and who knows eventually they might get lucky and they might have ran in the right direction but that don’t mean at this

Stage that running in that right direction is the right thing to do you might understand where I’m coming from you might not if you don’t then I can’t really help you but anyway let’s just hope that you’re lucky and I’m not so because then there might have to be some

Other conversations had later on down the road but anyway we’re talking about one of these situations that could have Arisen if Brian koberger is indeed not the guy did that make sense is indeed not the guy possibly let me know down below I know you gramar police like to

Correct me wherever you can sometimes it’s warranted sometimes maybe not so anyway let’s get into it we’re looking at frats that’s it I know some of you like talking about the frats because that seems the most logical explanation on what could have happened in this situation if Brian cerg is innocent

Perhaps this was a frat situation that descended into chaos Perhaps Perhaps there was a fight at the party and everybody was just quiet we spoke on a Case yesterday where that is perhaps a very very likely scenario and that perhaps proves that when something happens this Greek wall of soil closes

In and everybody loses the ability to speak is that a pattern we’re not the only ones that think so fighting frats and losing some of you may have seen this some of you may not this was actually an article from 2015 so not massive amount

Of time has gone by and I wouldn’t have thought much has gone by but this is a dispute over how to punish a fraternity ends with the resignation of the dean of students is this a pattern see someone else asking the same question is this a pattern look there’s a lovely little

Photograph for all the little buggers University of Idaho F Gamma Delta I’ve heard there a lovely bunch of people tensions between the University of Idaho administrators of Fraternity in the chapters alumni have ended with the University’s dean of students suddenly announcing his resignation after less than three months on the job things are

Bad if you want to go and work for somewhere you get in that job perhaps loving it and three months down the line you think [ __ ] this I’m out of here just prior to the announcement sanctions brought against the fraternity over hazing allegations were dropped remember

That thing that a lot of people says doesn’t happen certainly does he certainly thinks so anyway I no longer believe this is an environment where I can work on issues of student safety let me just tell you what this was about this is about if you Google gole someone

Else pointed this out to me if you Google student falls from window this seems to be a common occurrence where people Swan Dive out of [ __ ] Windows now I will tell you now in the UK which we are a country that our government aspires to be like the government of the

United States of America and there are some fantastic things in America um this isn’t one of them with people Swan diving out of Windows and it doesn’t seem to be something that we have yet adopted we don’t have many students one diving out of Windows but it does seem

To be a regular occurrence around fraternities and sororities where there’s drink and windows you have people flying not everywhere just here apparently I no longer believe this is an environment where I can work on issues of student safety Craig chhatri and the dean of students said I hope

I’ve done his name Justice if I haven’t again I’m sure you’ll let me know the safety of our students is a primary concern of of the dean of students office and not being able to address concerns through our already established policies and agreements takes away the effectiveness of what this office can do

Seems fair in this last year several colleges and universities have made serious attempts to reign in negative fraternity Behavior punishing fraternities can be a messy process why is that I wonder however placing student affairs employees in the crosshairs of Greek organizations and their powerful alumni

In some cases to lose such a battle also means it’s time to find a new job so what this is got is basically saying is we have issues within the fraternity that is putting student safety at risk I want to be able to address that risk but

I know that it’s dangerous to do so so if I can’t do it I can’t address them people are probably the upper echelons are telling them probably night B he’s thinking well what do I do then I can’t basically function in my job because I’m told I can’t really challenge him make

Sense not really in September Clemson University suspended all fraternity activity after a sophomore fell from a bridge to his death during what his parents believed to have been a Hazen ritual just before winter break the official who pushed for that decision Jail jail fry and slip um G Sabatino G

Disabatino I think I should have done that better the first time round the University’s well-respected vice president of student affairs was suddenly replaced without explanation in response to a departure fraternity members on campus sang ding dong the witch is dead I [ __ ] you not while Clemson previously discussed a ban of

Fraternity and sorority social AC activities in 2010 Greek alumni emailed the university saying such a suspension would jeopardize donations to the university either let us dring or our powerful parents will sever the ties between their bank account and yours make sense some faculty and students had speculated that similar

Threats had been made leading to Des Sabatino’s departure but Robin Denny Clemson’s director of media Rel said those comments were unfortunate and uninformed Greek alumni Idaho have made similar threats over recent proposals to require first year students to live in Residence Halls rather than Greek

Houses let us live where we want to or that link will be severed Kevin Krueger president of NASPA the student affairs administrators in higher education said making these kinds of unpopular decisions put students Affairs in employees right in the firing line no no one’s out to get fraternities but

Administrators are doing what they think is best for students Krueger said there continues to increasingly be very low tolerance for chapters that unable to conform to policy at the same time you’re absolutely going to get phone calls from alumni it’s very politicized environment My Hope Is that campuses are

Doing the right thing for students and not bending to the interest of a single group of alumni who may be opposed Katherine Aken the University of Idaho’s Provost and vice president said the university does not Place alumni interests ahead of the safety of students our biggest concern is the

Welfare of students a can said that’s uppermost in our mind I think the Greek Community shares that commitment to that welfare and development I think we are all in a agreement that this is a place where the safety of students is of Paramount importance with houses that are

Privately owned and located off campus Idaho fraternities like many across the country are notoriously difficult to police one University official described them as holding tremendous power and they have experienced a number of tragedies controversies and lawsuits in recent years within weeks of each other in 2009 two students were seriously

Injured in falls from the upper story fraternity Windows it happened again at another Idaho Fraternity in 2011 and again in 2012 a student celebrating his 21st birthday in 2010 took at least 15 shots in less than three hours and died of alcohol poison in his fraternity house

In 2013 a freshman wandered away from a fraternity part um party and froze to death under a bridge later that year University of Idaho student was sentenced to 15 years in prison for raping another student in the bushes behind a fraternity house as a party continued inside in February the dean of students

Office found the fraternity F GMA Delta to be in violation of the University’s Hazen policies the fraternity quickly agreed to accept the sanctions imposed by the office as part of the agreement freshman members were no longer allowed to live in the house and the chapter was

Put on ation for 3 years at Idaho Greek organizations accused of violating University rules accused of violating University rules have the choice of having their case heard by the Greek Community standards boards or Simply Having the dean of students decide the sanctions fi Gamma Delta originally agreed to the latter but the fraternity

Later changed its mind and asked instead for the case to be heard by the Greek Community Standards Board a panel that is comprised nearly entirely of Greek students and alumni the Standards Board rarely decides cases as serious as Hazen University’s official said but after fraternity members said they thought the

Original process was unfair F Gamma Delta was allowed to withdraw its acceptance of the sanctions there are no rules saying Hazen’s allegations cannot be handled by the board the decision also came after the Provost office received several phone calls and emails from the alumno chapter a said the original

Investigation into the allegations still stand but the Greek Community standards Bo will use that investigation to make recommendations about what they think transpired and what the appropriate sanctions are she said she disagreed with the suggestion that the fraternity alumni D directly influenced the decision the University of Idaho has a

Long history of a vibrant Greek Community Aken said we are always interested in what our alumni thinking and are open to them providing input on any topic but ultimately the university is responsible for student welfare not alumni the University of Idaho would not allow any alumni to unduly influence any

Decision it makes unless there’s enough of that John bradby a lawyer for the fraternity also denied that the fraternity alumni had any outsize influence on how the university will sanction the chapter instead Bry said the alumni just conveyed that they thought the case should have been handled by the Greek standards Community

Standards Board from the start the alumni don’t run the university the rules run the university Brad said chatrian explained that he didn’t think he was able to fulfill his job we didn’t think he fulfilled his job as it should have been fulfilled either on social media this week other students at alumni

Reacted to the news of surprise and disappointed while chatrian had only been dean of student since January he had worked at the University of Idaho for 5 years I suspect this decision to leave wasn’t easy and was one he felt was morally right one recent graduate wrote on f Facebook I actually question

Why the administration didn’t back him or support his opinion I worry that the next de of students will follow the direction of the administration with no question after all it is a good old boys club so there you have it what they’re basically saying is the

Greek system runs a college money runs a college if you try and push back if you try and fight it if you try and question it you told your best off not to so an answer to the question that old question as to whether if Brian koberger isn’t the person who did

This which at this stage he is entitled to the presumption of Innocence until he is proven otherwise now if he is not proven otherwise if there is a failure to prove otherwise then we must start looking at Alternatives I’m not going to point the finger at anyone in particular

But we do know that things will happen around the night that this happened and it does happen to involve people of said chapters now could something have happened that spoiled into something that it never was intended to be and if it did is there a possibility that

Everybody lost the ability to talk about it I think to say that that is 100% not the case would be very very naive let me know what you think and I’ll catch you all in the next one

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