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Get in search for a free quote you’ll find all the information within the description thank you hello everyone welcome back to the all or podcast with Michelle Billy M and today’s special guest once again is Steven French now Steve thanks for coming back on going to address a few
Things while we’re here here so well the F first thing I want to do Bill yeah you’re right is read an email that I sent to finder prison finder prisoner.com um I tried to get old of water slaine’s details couldn’t get his details so I wrote to find prison.com
Yeah date the 19th of November 2003 9:00 subject Wen slany hmp long Lon dear s Madam my name is Steven Thomas French senior my date of birth is the e8th of October 1959 I’m 64 years old my address is I’m an excon I was released from hmp
Preston the 29th of December my Prison number is Alpha 4782 Charlie whiskey I was mapa one highrisk to other man low RIS to women and children according to my oasis report I’m trying to write to Mr waren slany he saving life for double maer I
Was in hmp long laon in the 1990s and that’s that’s all I know about him except the fact that he has always maintained he is innocent of the crimes he was put away for I was falsely accused of very serious crimes in 216 but I managed to prove my innocence before trial and
Those allegations were dropped unfortunately for me i’ been recalled on license my license was for crimes that I did commit back in 213 these crimes I pleaded guilty to and I ended up doing an extra Year’s prison time till my license was completed therefore I know what it’s like to do jail for
Time for crimes that you haven’t committed but not like the decades that Mr Wen Sania has done and I have no idea what that must be like and I feel for the man please understand that doing time for crimes you have not committed is the
Main reason why I want to write to Mr Wen sany this is because there are several videos circulating on YouTube that could affect his parole they are being made by a man who says he his friend and a man is named yamy B these videos are claiming that Mr Wen
Selan High had a violent altercation in hmp Long Long Len after a monthong long buildup period the cont the content creator yamy B has a witness who says he was there and witnessed the fight with his own eyes in the numerous videos he also gives the impression that it’s still bad
Blood between us with a War to settle this is completely fictitious and no such thing ever happened I’ve never met this man yummy be nor have I ever met Wen sany in or out of prison it’s a complete fantasy don’t for clickbait and it’s a d disgusting way to treat
Somebody that you say is your friend I know for a a fact Her Majesty’s prison service has my Prison number given at the top of this email and her majesty prison Services have the ability to to see that me and Wen slany have never been in the same prison at the
Same time therefore Her Majesty’s prison Services can independently prove if we have done jail time together or not without relying on my word alone and make sure that this information gets to the parole board another reason I want to write to him is because we have a mutual friend
Who knows those both my friend does not want to his name mentioned and I would respect his wishes I did visit my my friend in long laon in the late 1980s my friend has actually done time with Wen seleny and my friend has informed me that Mr Wen
Slany like me is innocent of the crimes he’s saving time for my friend no longer has Mr waren sany’s Prison number hence this is why I’m writing to your good selves I’m an excon who has a serious reputation for the extreme violence I’m deeply concerned that if
The Parole Board gets wind that it is bad blood between two very serious individuals such as Mr slania and myself it could affect his chances of coming home and I personally believe this would be a catastrophe and totally unfair because it’s all lies told for clickbait I want hmm I want her majesty
Prison service to know these online videos are just the lies of unscrupulous individuals claiming to be his friends but trying to cash in on his reputation low life low down scum who do not care about how these lies could affect Mr Wen slaine’s bid for this long overdue
Freedom and as I next come myself I know how parole boards think when it comes to public protection from men with a history of extreme violence they always air on the side of caution in closing I know what it’s like to do jail time for the crime you are
Innocent of and this fact has compelled me to reach out to to this man I would hate to be considered as a reason to deny him his freedom I wish him well I hope he’s released and return to his family as soon as possible and on his
Release I will seek him out meet him for the first time ever and buy him a beer cuz that’s how real men behave and who knows he and I may become friends because I took the time to make sure he has the best shot of coming home kindly God Steven
French this is M the main reason will yeah I’m I’m I’m in town to go to this mulpus what’s it called the film that you was in in time to go to that but I also wanted to answer some things that are being said about me in the comments
Now when I spoke to you last time I told you that I don’t bother reading the comments yeah but my email my email address was up yeah right and I received lots of emails people have emailed me and a lot of them have been very positive yeah right I even found out one
Of my friends that I never knew H John Rich Show from stepup Securities passed away yeah his younger brother wrote to me so in the whole the feedbacks been good I told you that yeah you do your best numbers and I told you that they’d come out of the woodwork to attack me
And that’s one of the reasons why I’ve come to make this a right to reply video I asked you to get in touch with yummy B yeah I’ve sent s a telephone number yeah yeah right and I’m waiting to speak to him yeah right because I don’t think it’s
Him I think he’s being misled by somebody else you’re right because we know certain people in the same fraternity and apparently yamy be is an okay guy but when he’s making the video he’s giving the impression that he knows me yeah right and I want to speak to him
Cuz I’ve never met him yeah and and put this put this to bed and this isn’t a um me coming here to speak with you to say I’m the arest guy that ever lived and nobody can do me that’s that’s the last thing that’s on my mind that’s not what
I’m doing bill yeah right but I’ve never been knocked out mate yeah right not in a fight yeah yeah yeah I’ve been knocked out twice once off a tornado Squad yeah hmp Liverpool and once of the police in the street for man till till he choke me out yeah
And and there’s so much misinformation with regards to who I am for example one of the comments is saying when we spoke about remember Terry O’Neal yeah yeah stepen French doesn’t know Terry O’Neal Terry only wouldn’t have anything to do with a man like Steven French what’s that book will he has of
War yeah yeah yeah rise do me a favor and read the inscription on the first page there just do me a favor and read the inscription into the m so stepen my best wishes to you and yours always Terry O’Neal yeah right now ter O’Neal bought me this book yeah after they’
Been to my house for meal me and Terry O’Neal are friends I come with receipts you understand it’s like um another guy Teddy Ellis yeah right Tedd Tedd Teddy Ellis yeah right the variz and business robbery yeah yeah these are my friends all serious individuals all serious criminals yeah right these are
The people that I know yeah yeah another book this guy doesn’t even want me to give his name yeah yeah right but just this is a book cuz you all know I love the martial arts this is just just read the inscription not the title not who’s
From yeah frie this is the beginning of a great adventure together no looking back can’t even understand that let’s see no looking back Bido Brothers yeah from another mother enjoy your journey yeah right yeah now was list listen listen listen like I show you last time yeah yeah right the kazuna Brotherhood a
50y old Brotherhood yeah right white sweets from Europe yeah yeah black Africans from Africa Tes yeah all kind of men that that are my friends yeah right now another reason why I wanted to speak to you yeah right right because like I told you in the comments the grass
Shouted go out the non shouted go out you right so I’m making a challenge on your podcast comment to Billy’s comments who have grass on bring your depositions yeah yeah speak to Billy he’ll bring you on and he’ll read them out to people post them let’s come with
The receipts like I’ve come with the receipts to prove that I’m a police Informer or that I’m I’m a a I’m a snitch and I’ve snitched on people the other one is that I’m a police Informer I get paid off the police to give information I stopped criminal activity
In 1993 and went to work in security yeah yeah I don’t know what anybody’s anybody’s doing yeah right right and the only people that have smashed me yeah yeah is the police and I got tornado tornado Squad squaded you right there’s no receipts there’s no proof there’s no nothing now
I’m not um here winging or crying you right cuz people can think what he wants and they can say what he wants but come with the evidence don’t just say is this or that because I personally believe yeah yeah yeah it’s racism behind it all it’s always white guys yeah yeah right
Apparently I can’t go to to my own Community I’ll be there later yeah I’ll be there for 3 days when when I bued me Dad yeah yeah I was in I was digging his garden for three days straight it’s all over the buls because I know who I am
And it’s not I’m not here Billy trying to say I’m the toughest guy alive cuz I’m not what I’m trying to say is I’m not frightened to have a fight yeah neither am I a bully yeah right because at the center of every bully is a coward yeah
And I know to the life experiences I’ve had and the situations that I’ve been in bill yeah right I’m got out of yeah yeah right right that I’m not um a coward yeah right right and I’m not a bully it’s like it’s like if I was a bully I’d
Be kicking off over this yammy be stuff all I’ve said is let’s have a conversation okay let’s ask you a question and so I know this is all important yeah it it’s it would be to me if the shout was about now right you’re like just on on an interview scale here
Right Steven French aka the devil the tax man right so where did all that come from the tax man so tell us a little bit about that because that kind of leads into the story of like right I don’t I don’t have interview with Brian from [ __ ] middles bre I know
You sh he knows you Brian and and I asked him the same question cuz he was getting the bully shows all the time you’re a bully you’re a bully you’re a Taxman and he said he was never a bully he was he was robing through ters right he was Shing yeah right
So okay in in the comments yeah yeah right it said that I picked on the vulnerable people yeah yeah right right drug dealers that deal deal in in millions and deal in in plenty of kilos yeah yeah they’re not vulnerable yeah you understand they not vulnerable now
It was at a time Bill yeah right before the Firearms kicked off I actually I actually take responsibility yeah yeah yeah right for the explosion of firearms on Mery side yeah because I did a a drug dealer defend himself from a guy like me you understand yet R because not only do I
Have the natural ferocity I’m also a trained fighter you know as being a boxer most people are pudding yeah most people don’t even know how to throw a punch you understand yeah yeah right like I’ve said before I’ve said in the video I held four titles at once yeah
Yeah yeah yeah right now I say these things yeah right because I’m perceived as always telling lies yeah it and and now the Wen slain shouts that I got this there people in the comments say I was there I seen it yeah I’ve never been in
Long Lon yeah right long lon’s a life is jail you understand I’ve wrote to the man yeah the man will write back to me apparently to my friend is’s a man of high ior and you find out that boxers yeah yeah don’t claim victories that they haven’t had yeah right so
He’ll clear it up yeah right it will be cleared up and eventually I’ll get to have a conversation because you know I’ve asked you to ask me to bring me on his podcast yeah right because I’ve got nothing to hide with regards to that yeah now I Was the big black book that nobody could do nothing with yeah right so you had to put labels on me me they have to put labels on me to bring me down they have to call me a bully they have to call me a snitch they have to call me a rapist
Now and now yeah yeah I’m getting knocked out in a jail that I’ve never been in yeah this is all right to tear me down because I Stand Tall wherever to go yeah yeah I stand tall and I’ve got a Fearless nature Now The Fearless nature thing comes from I’m a mix race
Lad yeah right when I was a kid yeah I was two for certain part members of the black community I was too white for certain members of the white Community yeah I was too black but I found my Niche with Japanese culture yeah right
To a guy called Ronnie cell 5′ 10 11 and a half Stone most dangerous man I’ve ever met yeah yeah ask G and Teddy about Ronnie Co my teacher he got me when I was a kid when I was 15 and he said I can see something in
You young man he said and I’m going to bring it out of you yeah yeah right and Li to break here or make you it brought it out of me yeah yeah I’m actually a a fellow of the Japan Institute and recognized in Japan back before mambor I
Used to wear a Japanese top knot in the 80s what’s the yeah but see the fighting there’s different styles of fighting right and I that’s WR in the comments where the kind of fighting that you were involved in right in is it the dojo and all that that you do
Is is a little bit of like just flicking right so put that on the streets right do you think it’s going to do damage or are you going to mix it up with a little bit more just that’s just what I’m reading in the comments okay so when I started off shter gang
Karate yeah yeah right that was points points tournament Frank Ben yeah you score points and there’s a referee yeah right and you’re exactly right right right that so I moov to full contact kickboxing yeah yeah right which isn’t that you understand which is knocking out and punching you understand yeah
Right now now you say e um does it work on the streets so okay when I was running the Grafton yeah yeah yeah this was my crew Andy Palmer ABA Champion Jimmy price Commonwealth gold medalist Brian Scher yeah Olympic no Olympic boxing team captain 1984 Olympics yeah Brian Schumaker I got
Stubbed on me left arm um T me he taught me how to throw a left H yeah we were in jail together when I when when I when they put me in Walton yeah right cuz I caused so many problems in Walton yeah right they put me on the life as Wing
Yeah and I was with Brian in in in in in that reminds me that reminds me so the the question my Val I went to prison March beginning of March 2013 yeah bwing yeah hmp Liverpool R reception yeah yeah bwing hmp Liverpool 250 men yeah yeah when I’m coming to
Reception I’m hearing all the rumbles about andc telling me you’re going to get it in here face morning come out on the Landon yeah and I challenged 250 men over the over the force screaming like a maniac you want me here I am blah blah blah now
Those who were there know it happened people n he never did that he never did that he never did that I was speaking to you about it on the phone somebody mentioned it to you didn’t he yeah yeah right so so every prison I was in I had made it
Yeah yeah yeah every prison I was in I ended up in the block yeah right because people try to test me and everybody that try to test me come on stuck you right because they believe the rumor mill then they get in front of me yeah yeah then they get in
Front of me then it goes off then they find out they’ve made a mistake you understand and that’s not see see I’ve tried to avoid talking like this yeah you cuz I don’t want to give it that I am the big I am but no knocked me out
Yeah no beat me yeah I’ve knocked maybe three dozen men out you understand yeah I fought with them all over the place like I like I told you yeah me and Andrew John on on the grafting Andy part man Brian schumak and Jimmy price all trained Fighters mate and we smashed everybody
Smashed anybody that come down got smashed yeah yeah I lost to Grafton cuz of one instance of violence in a 15mon period yeah right cuz my thing was his face ask questions later yeah right right now there some big kids though from the sou he what see
Like ban and S back in the day when they were in jail the lik of like big Zen and you’ve got car Palmer yeah I know them I know them and they’re all big big big umbre yeah so so so I never had it with them yeah right um NE never
Never sorry one of the co we did yeah right we we with Panama and Panama told him he’s never seen no oneeyed gangster you get me is he still alive Panama yeah he’s he’s still alive yeah yeah right so I give you okay I give you I give you
For for the instance yeah yeah right so this is a story so I sold my security F yeah so my security f for 250 Grand the the contracts yeah a lad called Lee Greenwood bought them off me and he paid me two he paid me 220 and
He owed me 30 grand yeah and he hadn’t paid me the 30 grand so I he that he’s driving around in Manchester in a silver Bentley GTE yeah so I went and took the Bentley off him yeah right right but he was working with a Fame one L was called John DIY
That was frontting the fame but it was a guy a kid called Paul flann from the quality street from sou sou all monks yeah yeah all monks yeah yeah yeah so so there’s friction between us there’s friction between us so I’m having a meeting in the tight pan I’m
Having a meeting in the T in the tight pan discussing where’s if you want to sight back and if you want to the Bentley back give me me give me the T otherwise I’m keeping the sights yeah yeah yeah um and there’s me there’s a lad from gu
Yeah call Marlon yeah yeah and my mate call Rocky does KL Krab is with John disley and whatever a meeting and 25 of them walking yeah yeah yeah Jonathan quy non killer and Paul Mari and AI Pauli and a are dead now yeah yeah right you
Were alive then yeah right and they come masi goes behind me yeah yeah AI shows me his piece yeah and they picked up 20 about 25 Lads from the south end yeah yeah right right and qu’s looking at me and he’s telling me you’re going to have
To give the sights back but he’s looking at me mouth he can’t look me in the eyes now if I stand up and say go and [ __ ] yourself I’m getting done if I sit there and say yeah lad what’s going on I’m getting done I just carried on eat me
Ribs yeah and said yeah inside yeah yeah right right but I’ve just gone nobody’s getting [ __ ] [ __ ] off from me now this is what I’ve heard about that yeah they put me face in the soup yeah they took me Rolex off of me there it is Bill I
Still got it yeah and and I got kicked all over the thing yo what actually happened is Maron called a bear from G knew ai ai ai’s got about five bodies on them yeah knew AI yeah spoke to Ai and they left they left 3 weeks waater 3 weeks later I’m on M
Street and I see wongi you know wongi wongi and what’s festers wongi and festers twice my size half my age and another kid yeah yeah yeah right pull out my car fly over get outside yeah yeah cuz these were the ones that come into the restaurant to me
Yeah yeah right Kos is there the University campus is is there across cross over the road I take off my jacket I’m going to knock you out first then I’m going to knock you out give wongi as Jew wongi steps forward but every time
We go into the go go to go in the zone he’s [ __ ] off then I see f is out the corner me I going back into the [ __ ] into the to the cafe so I know he’s gone for the two yeah yeah right now them times I’m I’m driving
A how back how far back we talk now back 29 29 I’m driving two to 250 W yeah yeah I’m driving there I’m driving there I’m driving there and I’ve always got tools in the back so going I get me H yeah W says if you hit me down [ __ ]
Lashes him on his on his elbow wh cracks him on his elbow yeah as a turn around Fest is coming up on me with a with a big dagger but as a turn round he [ __ ] himself jazz hands and through it but the shout to this other kid get the two
Get the two from from the corner yeah right whatever they’ve got buried in the corner on the grass V yeah he’s about 10 yards away from him yeah unfortunately for him Billy I’m five yards behind him with an H yeah yeah and and bring the am
Down on his on his Dome it’s going to kill him this this is a killer blow yeah yeah yeah this is going to smash his head open and his brains are going to fall out at the last second I say to thou sh not kill and I move it to his
Classical and I smash his classical wongi is running west F Fest is running East he’s running North and I’m standing in the middle of M Street with an H yeah yeah the rumor goes around that they’ve done me but unfortunately for them it was by the taxi Rank and it went right
Across Liverpool the taxi rank cuz they were hated at that time they were bullying everybody I’m I’m in me 50s and I UND the old crew by myself you understand wongi I dropped me phone yeah W’s got my phone yeah W’s got my phone and he
Phones me misses off off my phone get told of my M then I just phone up and said listen just you nobody else just you I’m going to get you you’re going to see me in your [ __ ] dreams I know to terrorize people and I terrorize them
Yeah right then he wants to give me me phone back but he’ll only meet me on the multiway service stations yeah when I meet him on the multiway service station he’s all strapped up with have smashed him on the [ __ ] arm I’ve just graub them these are all half my age twice my
Size and I’ve terrorized them the bring some some some some guy called Leb onto the scene yeah he shot my son yeah someone shot him bill yeah and he disappeared don’t know who shot him yeah right but he got sorted he was shooting everybody got sorted out so it’s like
This yeah yeah if you want it with them you can have it with them if you want it with that you can have it with that if you want with them you can have it with that and that’s the way I was but I’m not that way anymore yeah I
Went to jail yeah um you know what I learned in jail bill yeah I learned humility I was a very arrogant guy and I didn’t give a [ __ ] you get me and I learned to be humble in jail yeah and my daughter was born when I was in jail the
The little baby that I’m after now and that’s why I moved down south yeah stop doing all the peace work stop doing all that work and cleaned up my act cuz I’m going for that kid um I got drug tested on te they yeah yeah cuz you got to be
Drug tested pass all the drug tests no cocaine no weed no nothing cuz I’m going for this baby you’re right cuz I’m not a dead be dad I want to raise this kid myself like I told you on on the last podcast but one of the reasons I came to
Speak to today yeah right is they can call me a snitch doesn’t bother me they can call me a rapist it could doesn’t bother me but don’t start saying that I got knocked out that bothers me cuz I’m a soldier I’m a warrior I’m a fighter yeah don’t
Say that I got done when I never got done you understand yeah and and and anything you can do to demean my achievements they’ll demean my I I could I can bring you I can bring you the magazines I can bring you the Press C I can I can bring you everything don’t
Need to don’t need to I’m I’m secure in what I’ve done and who who I am and here’s another one let the man on mey side come forward in the comments who’s done me put his name down and say I’ve done Steven French let the man on Maisy side come
Forward who says he’s made me swallow that he put it on me and I’ve swallowed yeah right there’s the open challenge put your depths up where I’m a snitch put your man up who supposed to have done me cuz they don’t exist bill yeah and they won’t come and it’s
Just if you read the comments people that know me no I met Stephen stepen was sound he got me me money back he did this he did that it’s people that have never met me I call him skid marks and no marks I’m not really interested you understand yeah right but
When yummy B who’s a known a known person is then telling me that I’ve been knocked out that got to me yeah yeah that got to me that got to me got to you in a way where you contacted me and no no look look you
Know like no I tell have a cut me Bill right remember when I called you the and you seen your ass yeah and you ran in the house got to me that way got to me exactly that way you what what yeah yeah right cuz I know I’m not that you
Understand what I’m saying and I know that never happened and then I’m seeing it gathered gathered instraction gathered intraction FR you got knocked out by slany I know that for the fact yeah yeah yeah right and I’m reading and I’m thinking this is going this is another
One that’s going to get attraction but I’m going to stop this one because like I told you they don’t read them they don’t bother but you contacted me and you said to me do you know this water slayy blah blah I said to you yeah cuz it was mentioned in the comments that
Many times that I thought hang on a minute he did say that when he was in rley there was a guy there that front with him and he he kind of he admitted that and I thought well he’s being honest in that area so i’ would like to
Know Paul yeah Paul Paul Wilson you said Paul would come as you sh no Paul brought me listen why I respect the poor yeah right see see when they came from me in the restaurant yeah right Paul flann yeah he’s in wheelchair yeah right right he sent he sent Jonathan quy
Down yeah he sent POI and he sent AI yeah yeah now can’t say nothing about qu because he’s still alive them two are killers they’re not like joke people I mean don’t mean they I mean they’ve killed people you get me A’s got about five bodies on them
You understand yeah is he got on wait wait wait so they coming to see me yeah right there’s three of them they come they come down in 51 bner we may seen them in the 51 bner but that’s a big up 25 Lads so there’s 28 coming for
Me when he came two car loads when they came to my house after after the um um Danny D program two carloads not one geizer yeah friend let have yeah yeah right they have to be in a pack cuz they know I will smash them you understand yeah right and and I hate
Having to talk like this yeah like like it makes like I’m I’m I’m I’m giving it that I’m the bigon and I’ve moved away from that I’m 64 years of age with bad knees you understand what I’m saying yeah right but you’re not going to steal
My Valor you’re not going to steal my victories you’re not going to tell me that I’ve been done when I haven’t been done yeah yeah you can say all the [ __ ] about me yeah right Billy I was in five jails yeah yeah yeah five different
Jails yeah yeah with a tiger on me back as a nons yeah yeah yeah as a rapist you understand what I’m saying yeah and there was about 12 scouters on the wing that I was with I was on watch they never didn’t then I got moved to
Another Wing they paid a double strike life to come to the church and and whack me on the back of the head yeah yeah the next day he got caught in healthcare yeah and got his arm snapped off the Giza behind that was the Giza call yeah
Yeah right right I catch in the showers yeah right I’m waiting for the showers to empty I was we go in the showers in in the in the wait room because all the only place I used to go in jail yeah right was the gym and the church and I
Told anybody you want to see me see me in the gym you want to have it with me see in church cuz all the Wings come to church yeah I us should read I used to read the scriptures for them yeah right not that I’m a holy A J yeah right but I
Used to go to church but if you wanted to have it with me see me in the church yeah right wasn’t I no numbers yeah yeah I got to Preston I got to Preston jail yeah Mr I’ve got his name right down here me Mr yeah Mr Miller
Band Mr Palmer and so so there’s a there’s a there’s a there’s a non in there he’s been on the wing for two for two for two years yeah right but he’s a uni he’s [ __ ] he he’s bigger than me about 17 Stone he’s a uni don’t up to a
Bed with a h yeah yeah yeah yeah and Mr P says to me if you want the number one job get that nons off me Wing you get me you know cuz screws don’t like them either you get me yeah yeah R he’ been there two years took the
Scout to come and smash him to bits yeah sming the bits then he’s on the land and bleeding cuz give it to him with an elbow he’s on the land and bleed and the lads that were there know this happened yeah cuz those that were there
Yeah right they W come in the comments but they theyve seen it I’m not telling no lies you understand I don’t have to lie about my victories you get me I was there number one I’m on [ __ ] rape charge and I’m number one in Preston you understand yeah right right because I
Had the jail under control yeah right and I had the jail under control because I could T people yeah yeah if if I needed to yeah right what I used to do is go to gym go to church and stay in me pad writing me stuff yeah because I knew
Yeah right if I got caught fighting in jail I get an outside charge they told they’d already told me you’re going to get an outside shart cuz he knew the case was going nowhere and he knew that I was coming home yeah I’ve come home
Yeah right and now I’m working to be a single father yeah and working to try and get this baby and raise this baby she’s she’s seven yeah 10 put 10 years in and I get it to go to university it’ll be one of the best 10 years that
I’ve spent in me life you right I’m also it’s like it’s like um have you read of a kid called piggy no piggy was from Manchester they were the first ones you remember them posters when when when the these were the kids that shot the kid yeah yeah then went to the funeral
And shot another kid do you remember that that story vaguely yeah well well it was a while yeah right and piggy was the first one to get 35 and all the Billboards were around where he was showing where he was aging they was showing him where he was [ __ ] aging
Yeah yeah what in prison no no no what he be like when he come out yeah what what he be like when when he when when he come out yeah right so that she him hill that she him hill in G yeah I had officers I had officers in warington
Yeah yeah yeah I’ve got cheim Hill leaders on that side yeah JC I’ve got gu on on that side bear and his crew yeah yeah yeah right right and I broke with the peace that when the soldiers get killed they can get buried in peace but I don’t go around singing about these
Things you get me there’s the peace work that I do yeah but I’m not with these kids slapping each other I’m working with Killers bro you understand I’m working with people that are offering people yeah yeah right but do you respect me you get me and then I can get
Him and I say look it was too early to talk about peace between gu and [ __ ] cheetah milk because it was about that war has been going on since the 80s and it’s about 30 bodies yeah yeah right but you know when the Grandma’s there and the bing one that’s already dead let’s
Not do that at let’s not let’s let’s have a true s you understand I organized that yeah now there’s a kid called JC from um from from from Che Mill if if I’m telling these if I’m telling lies about these people I’ll get whacked by these people you get me you can’t talk
About this these Crews like that and not tell the truth you understand um why why did I get involved in anti-un stuff and and all that so remember Rees Jones yeah he got shot yeah yeah 2007 wasn’t it in CL yeah yeah yeah yeah you know Camila
Pennington is no well she got shot on me yeah yeah right she a little black girl she little black girl she got shot in may just before just before him yeah the mom was maning the gun for for somebody she went off to a funeral yeah yeah yeah
He’s playing with the gun the gun’s gone off and he’s killed the sister yeah right when I seen and her name’s Camila Pennington peniston when I seen a picture she’s 12 Tut GRE ex exactly the same age as my daughter the exact same smile yeah broke my ass yeah yeah yeah and
And nobody knows that girl’s name everybody knows about Reese Jones the little white kid nobody knows about the little black girl that got killed I do yeah and that’s what started me in this week and it’s not it’s not a like I’ve said to you before with melun I’m not a
Racist bro but I know there I know Liverpool’s a racist City yeah yeah it’s like let me ask you this bill you’re the Wes there yeah right and I know you know that when you’ve been with your Wes how it is how it is and how you talk about
Black people I don’t have to be there to know it and I won’t put you on the spot but I know that you know you understand yeah yeah rise cuz I know what Liverpool’s like yeah I’ve seen a podcast well I know what it was like cuz
I live down in the show end off LOD laying anyway so for me it was it was um so was you a Niger over did call you a [ __ ] over I got calls everything but when I went when I went down that streets ashbridge Street yeah that’s where your Steven lived in ashbridge
Streets at the very bottom on the left hand side and um I went to see some he was two two dos up from him I had this Al yest parked in the street didn’t know who it was who said they get your Boger out the St your
[ __ ] ball was like why have you said that I haven’t come with any conflict I’m not a threat to anyone right and let yourself B what the [ __ ] and then I’ve just I’ve just gone went home come back with a bat on my own on me own stay and
They tell you that St I come back on I come back on my own very listen see see I tell you I tell you but then you for me I listen I tell you I tell you why me and you have kind of hit it off yeah cuz we shoot from the hip
Straight yeah yeah you’ve been straight with me I’ll been straight with you yeah right it’s like it’s like you form me up yeah and you asking me yeah yeah I said you believe me he said yeah I do St I do yeah and then you spoke with yammy and even yammy’s back track
Isn’t he yeah right cuz it’s bollock but it’s got instraction same with a rapist same with a snitch all got and all all all all it is Bill yeah right all it is yeah is I’m a prince so you got to put something on me
You get me yeah yeah I like myself yeah yeah I’ve gone whever I wanted to gone and I’ve done whatever I wanted to do yeah right and um um it was me that smashed all the color bars on the door no [ __ ] in this club you having a
Laugh out yet you having a laugh and I took the doors over loads of clubs in town I did that too I’ve had it with Del lynches yeah yeah tell you use me mate Tony Bell is Dad is Dad yeah yeah um what’s his name his name’s Tony in it yeah yeah no
Um um Joey Owens yeah yeah yeah right so it’s going off with with us and them yeah so they sent for the Irish for me yeah yeah please come and see me me yeah tell me there’s 30 grand on me head yeah yeah I’m going to he he Ro he wrote a
Book door wars or something Wars yeah yeah in the book he’s got me race Wars is it yeah door wars to race he’s got me he’s got me crying my eyes out begging for Mery never happened never happened some place in [ __ ] N I went and
Pulled him went and pulled him he’s like that his K I ran away ran away if I’m lying call me out you understand if I’m lying yeah the lad who organized the Irish kids to come over and kill me wrote to me in prison yeah yeah seen
The other of his I won’t call his name wrote to me in prison yeah asked for forgiveness yeah I gave him forgiveness and me and him are good mates now you understand what I’m saying because I know what it was like back then you understand and I know what what this
City was like and I went where I wanted to go do you feel though as well that you need still right cuz I know I’ve got I’ll be honest M I’m not going to mention who it is but I’ve got a friend who right there’s an amends to be made
By yourself from back in the day and I’ll speak to you later after this but do you feel as well that there’s there there’s amends on your behalf because I know you you’re you’re a Christian now right and you’ve got a good spirit and and you’re all about love right do you
Believe that there’s still amends that you need to be to make to people that you’ve you’ve harmed in the past okay so here here’s the thing get right I’ve apologized I apologized in the book I’m on a journey of atonement is this is this the devil decoded the next one no
No it’s actually in the other book yeah right see see people just take out the juicy bits yeah yeah right that book’s about that that book’s actually about lay down your Firearms Embrace education and and don’t do what I did cuz it’s a waste of time you understand if you read
The book yeah yeah right that’s the message in the book yeah Theo just pull out the juicy bits yeah yeah right but the message is lay down down your Firearms Embrace education I open I I opened up the increase the peace program yeah yeah in 2005 I campaign for a campaign for eight
Years but all like what you’re seeing now yeah I was getting that constantly constantly and crack wide open you understand I’ve moved away yeah I won’t crack wide open again yeah yeah i’ come I broke I broke my own golden RS and read some com comments yeah right
And this is why came up to to to to to have the right to reply yeah yeah right right right cuz I say and I say it clear where’s the camera there’s no [ __ ] that’s knocked me out there’s no [ __ ] in Liverpool that has beat me in a fight
Stand up manto man yeah yeah and I’ve had it with the mo bro I’ve had it with all the crews the fites the yies I’ve had it with the mo you understand yeah yeah and I haven’t come off second best you right so what happens is is
Do they have to throw D on me he’s a snitch he’s a nons he’s a rapist what Ed him all lies all lies cuz I’m like a samurai you understand yeah I don’t not frighten to die in a violent death yeah yeah yeah yeah right and I’m not scared to go forward
But I’m trying to move in a different direction it’s like it’s like one of the FY first questions you ask me is go and that’s when you Tred to change and I actually said to you want to change and changing a whs apart understand yeah cuz the certain
Parts of me wants to stick a pen in somebody’s neck you understand yeah I don’t want to go back to prison yeah yeah right every every case of that I’ve had no Co accused I’ve always been on M so I can drop nobody in yeah yeah
There’s no depths if if let me ask you the question if if I’d made statements against people yeah or put people in you think they wouldn’t be wouldn’t they would have saf Us by now it’s like let me give you a a cracker there’s a kid called quami yeah on the Danny di
Program he’s the one when all all the kids are standing and he goes he can’t come around here he got shotter he’s got a Mas on that’s quami I sent him his depths yeah he give evidence in a made trial yeah Kay Benjamin got killed yeah
H a lad called there was a lad charg with it I know it was yeah yeah yeah and and and quami gave evidence yeah right wrote a statement stood in the doct this party yeah yeah said said said he did it what’s that if you stand in the dock write a
Statement and call somebody’s name what’s that and then he’s on Danny D program saying he can’t come around there Steven fren is a grass so I sent him his depths actually went down to the court got his depths and he’s in prison and sent him his depths and I sent and
Um and then I was in in a wart with his dad got his dad his dad ended up getting a 10 over firearms and that’s terrified that I’m going to fill him in yeah right now if it was a bully bill I fill him in
When see him Dad I said you I’ve got a son that causes problems for me you’ve got a son that causes problems for you I’ve got no problem with you Alan you haven’t done nothing to me you told when I he you was coming to this G [ __ ]
Hell [ __ ] yeah but Billy I’m not a bully yeah I’m a fair guy yeah and I put it on who who it’s supposed to be on you understand yeah I hate the bully shouts yeah the grassing on call me all day long there’s no Pap but
I hate the bully shs yeah cuz bullies are cowards you understand I was bullied as a kid yeah I know bullies are cowards I don’t mind bully I don’t mind bully when I was 15 yeah yeah so I I I don’t like that with regards
To the question that you ask me I have apologized yeah yeah I am ashamed of the thing that I did yeah right right but but what you got to remember it was a different the whole the whole country was different you understand what I’m saying and we had foots on our necks bro
You get me and I wanted to get the feet off my neck yeah yeah yeah yeah right and I got the feet off my neck by violence and robbing people yeah yeah Paul got me in rizle manned up man up get in here yeah you owe me and I apologize too
Yeah yeah yeah yeah and and I’ve apologized to quite a few people yeah yeah yeah for what I did yeah yeah yeah and the things that I did to them some accept it some don’t yeah some are dead yeah yeah so it’s like it’s it’s it swings around out but I
Wanted to come yeah yeah and just clear the things up about Teddy O’Neal actually being my friend writing me books com after meals with because the these are the people my Teddy Ellis yeah biggest robbery ever these are my people these are people that will sit down and
Have food with me and have drinks with me yeah and and because those who know it’s like dely deloy showers when I seen deloy and I said dely he goes those who know know Stephen those who know you don’t have to worry about it they say
All kind yeah the truth it’s only lies that need defending the truth will defend itself those who know well look see see and and you know we’ve had a conversation yeah yeah you know you know now without without cuz I have to do it from other than my word I have to bring
My evidence otherwise I’m just a liing black bastard yeah I have to prove prove other than coming out of my mouth now you’ve had to prove to you that you know that what I’m slay you never knocked me out don’t you yeah I do yeah yeah yeah
Well I’ll I’ll I’ll that’s about an hour didn’t it yeah it’s top me yeah yeah anything you want to ask me yeah as you always laugh at the end of every cast right is there any any you say look right so I’m look I’m about like
A I wouldn’t I wouldn’t say was I don’t would even know what c myself as a campaigner an interventionist I work with with groups of young youngsters who were involved with knife crime gang culture County Lance gun crime and I I kind of try and divate the the pathway
From the same path as we should have and I’m sure that my experience I won’t Cloud it by by sharing like the Liv that I’ve had now because there’s too much [ __ ] killing going on there’s too much stabbing there’s too much shooting kids these days are a lot different than they way
Back then right there’s no Integrity there’s no models there’s no values they don’t value life the the the [ __ ] kill them they’ve been let down yeah they’ve been let down and I think the is before them it’s it’s it’s it’s got a little bit skew with so what would you say
Rise to it so a youngster coming through the life now okay so so I I’ll finish I’m here for the for that TV program called multiplus yeah right right right so the writer and the director is a guy called Pizza sin yeah yeah right right
So when it starts off it says it says ER Leroy little but known as bamboo when he was 20 he was real K kickboxing champion and it’s about a black and it’s my story yeah right so I contacted my agents you contacted them and said you just robbed
My story what what the hell’s going on then Abdul got old to me Abdul got old to me yeah yeah then he brought brought the kid on turns out the kid’s one of my Lads that are steered away from the bollocks yeah give him the tools to go
And do college work yeah and now he’s making movies and as a film film director yeah there’s hundreds and hundreds of lads that I’ve helped doing that work yeah yeah yeah but I don’t sing and dance about it yeah yeah right cuzz as a Christian you do your Works
Quietly yeah right and I’ve affected the lives positively yeah yeah yeah of thousands of young men yeah yeah right get a lot of but I don’t broadcast or boast about that yeah yeah right I know I’ve got the letters and I’ve got the the testimonies yeah yeah right this is what I
Say the young men of today yeah yeah right the scene as the cause of problems but they’re not the cause of the problem they’re the symptom and the cause of the problems is those that are in positions of authority and power yeah yeah have the responsibility to build an
Infrastructure that we can all tap into so we can provide for ourselves and our families without being pistoleros drug dealers or criminals yeah and they haven’t done that yeah yeah right kids in Croy going to bed hungry with no lights on yeah yeah yeah kids in Tak going to bed hungry
With no lights on yeah yeah yeah and people like David kemman paying 200 quid for the aircut you understand the gap between the halves and the halves not is getting wider what I’ve what and what I’ve what I’ve realized yeah right cuz I try to work with the police with the
Anti gun stuff and all that what I’ve realized is they like it like that yeah they don’t want it solved you’ve got the the rehabilitation industry of of the justice system you’ve got probation officers you’ve got police you’ve got prison officers you’ve got judges you’ve got solicitors they’re all
Getting paid and you don’t get paid unless there’s criminals yeah they don’t give a [ __ ] yeah so change is never from the top it’s demanded by those at the bottom yeah and all you can do is advise and guide yeah and hope that a few get through hope
That you get through because there’s L there’s LS more that are going to die yeah definitely yeah yeah and it’s just it’s it’s heartbreaking yeah right and I’ve kind of stopped on that way you right cuz I’ve got a little girl that needs me yeah she got my blood in her
Her name’s Karma you understand yeah and I’m fighting two to nail to raise her to bring it to London and raise it with me the the the the Liverpool Social Services I’m having a m with them yeah right but that’s what I’m trying to do Bill that’s what I’m trying to do
Brilliant yeah I’m with that thank you very much thank you very much thanks
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