Ultimately I personally believe nothing is greater um for this land than our Hindu culture because culturally we all are Hindus right and I do believe that this is the one culture that that promotes actually promotes fraternity and Brotherhood they want an opposition M bhat and that’s not good for democracy
Most of the big boys here in Mumbai are buying houses in Dubai are having a second alternative why why are you hedging your bets the Congress was the India’s first h hu nationalist party it’s lost at Space hello and welcome to buzz by the bay Our Guest today is someone I would describe as an intriguing personality who is no stranger to Media appearances and podcasts he wears many hats as a social media influencer columnist activist businessman entrepreneur but his role as political Trend Watcher and
Commentator is what he’s most recognized for these days and though he’s a staunch Congress loyalist he’s not afraid to call them out on their mistakes very excited to catch up with thein punala and talk to him about current and future political Trends and his own interesting
Journey hi Pine hi thank you so much for having me here welcome to buz by the way and it’s nice to finally meet you in person finally absolutely and I’m so looking for forward to this and congratulations I believe buzz by the way is making quite a buzz in uh both in
Mumbai and across the country yes of course we we get you know prominent people interesting people those who have an inspiring message to give an interesting story to tell people like you help the show for sure thank you so much so lot has been happening lot’s been happening a lot interesting
Exciting developments um concerning developments however you want to describe them so first let’s discuss a few of those developments and then go on to to other you know other issues what do you make of it you know over 140 MPS suspended from Parliament and um do you think that
Those suspensions hurt democracy totally shameful it should not happen let’s understand something um there was a terror attack on our Parliament the reason I say terror attack is because the people who carried out this U Act in Parliament and outside have been charged in the uapa which is
The terror laws so obviously it’s a terror attack at least what that’s what the government says the last time we had a terror attack was on 13th December 2001 this was of course 2023 so on the same date something happened and when the 13th December attack happened a
Terror attack then the then home minister elwani G made a statement on the floor of the house all that the opposition is asking is the current home minister make a statement on the floor of the house what is wrong in it now what the B djp says
Is the defense minister made a statement but that’s not enough because the defense minister statement was simply look we got to be more careful in handing out passes that’s all that his statement said prior to the defense minister the speaker spoke omaji and The Honorable speaker said this is a small
Incident I’m quoting him verbatum he say a small incident let’s go on so from a small incident where only passes had to be you have to introspect while giving passes it’s now a terror attack where the Delhi police is saying there’s a mastermind phones were destroyed Etc now
It’s a serious breach tell me another democracy I’m I’m through you I’m asking the audience tell me another democracy in the world where the parliament is attacked and the president or the Prime Minister whatever is the governing Authority there and the home minister does not address the country through
Parliament tell me another system and what is surprising now I don’t believe anybody should be suspended I also don’t believe the BJP MP from meur deliberately gave out a spes let’s be clear on it I want to believe he’s innocent until proven guilty but if MAA
Can be suspended for giving her Logan ID how does this guy continue to be there and 141 MPS who are asking for the home minister to give a statement on the floor of the house following the Precedence where the former home minister gave a statement they’re being
Kicked out not the BJP MP he’s still not been investigated Delhi police have issued a comment I don’t know when this comes out but as of today while we’re recording he’s still not been investigated he’s still not been summoned so what is going on in a terror investigation your most important link
Is the past that has been given that person not been uh summoned so far right so it’s two rules that apply to two sets of people no it’s not two rules it’s what the BJP wants that they’re doing they want it they want an opposition M bhat and that’s not good for democracy
Right absolutely and you’re virtually suspending most of the opposition and bills can be passed without that’s why they’re doing it that’s why they’re doing it they’re bringing Draconian bills they’re bringing the broadcasters Bill they’re changing the entire IPC that will completely curve our fundamental rights the government can
Look into to can shut any account that they want on social media they don’t want criticism anywhere so shows like yours could come under criticism if the government decides to shut it down so free speech according to you is definitely going to I mean going to be
Affected very bad uh free speech is already under threat in our country going further more and I’ll tell you why a lot of times people tell me oh but you every night on TV criticizing the government yes but I’m not in jail because the government so far doesn’t
Want me in jail the day they want me they’ll put me in jail and if you say free speech is not being compromised in a country we in the bay look at all your industrialists all these industrialists ask one person to to criticize the government not one person will criticize
The government yet spending for example in media is at an all-time low they don’t have the money to spend yet all of them most of the big boys here in Mumbai are buying houses in Dubai are having a second alternative why why you hedging your bets hedging their bets because
They like if things get too Draco or too much of a police state then they’ll move that what you’re saying I saying everyone’s got a house in Dubai everyone’s got a house in Singapore here they want here they want to make it a totality state I’m not saying Dubai is a
Democracy it’s a of course it’s a not a free state but but it’s close to India so people are just hedging their bets they’re getting houses they’re getting uh everything elsewhere that’s what people want people want to people are are s slowly sort of supporting what the
Regime says here but also moving out going back again to these suspensions I mean what’s going to happen I know the IND India Alliance also met and they have you know condemned these suspensions from Parliament and they’ve also made statements about it and you have also tweeted on it the honorable
Vice president of Indian chairperson of rajasa he he he said that the J C our fellow J citizens very offended that he was U mimicked first I don’t think a chair should be mimicked but look mimicking isn’t as dangerous as throwing 141 people out right secondly if the
Jarts were offended A J fellow citizens because the vice president was mimicked the vice president was not offended that the J girls were molested by Bridge bushan sharan Singh for asking for protein powder as says the Delhi police report brid bushan sharan Singh continues to sit in that house as does
Bedri Hast you through Maha MRA out I’m not defending Maha MRA I am not a fan of hers I think what she did is stupid in haste you threw 141 MPS out bori who used the worst language in our Parliament continues to occupy a place
Of Glory how is he there so like I said double standards but you said it’s not really about two sets of rules it’s about having no rules at all and basically doing what you acting with impunity and doing what you same bedi if he was a member of any of the political
Party would have been suspended it’s only the rules for the BJP what Kalan banerji did with the vice president can be funny can be immature can be childish I really think it’s childish the problem is also that now problem to yes 141 MPS have been pushed out for asking
The home minister of India to sit do you think the people of India would not support you when the opposition is 60% of India how much vote BJP get 38% you’re Duty bound to stand up for them you’re not throwing an MP out of parliament you’re throwing the entire
Constituency he or she represents out what does sushma g say sushma G in 2012 7th September if I’m not mistaken well speaking to the media said when an entire parliamentary session had been watched out the winter session she said not allowing Parliament to function is a legitimate form of democracy August 2012
Arun jle G said and I’m quoting him he said that we will not allow the government to escape via discussion we don’t want discussion oh this is jly G they washed out entire sessions today they are saying that the opposition protesting asking for a discussion is
Wrong so then what I make of it is you didn’t want a discussion in opposition you don’t want a discussion in government I think Suma or G said something wonderful which I believe very strongly the house belongs to the opposition running it is a responsibility of the government the
Parliament always belongs to the opposition where else will opposition raise their voice if not Parliament no absolutely true so which um brings me to the next topic which is the indd alliance and you are a staun congress loyalist and I’m going to ask you later
On why and how but coming to the meeting of the India Alliance and this proposal to have uh Mr Malik Arjun Ki as front runner this proposal from Mam banerji and Arvin krial what do you make of it it’s a good proposal but they didn’t
Take a decision you see why why are some people so attracted to Modi G they attracted because they find Modi G decisive now you can agree disagree with his decisions I think demonetization was horrendous but a lot of people love the fact that he’s decisive our politics has
Become about being the alpha indiri was the alpha yes right it’s become about being the alpha now if you can’t take a decision whatever your decision is decision Low by and I’ve given them the suggestion if you can’t have a face and I think kij is a good face because he’
Be the first D CM PM Etc okay you can’t have that fine I understand that at least have a shadow cabinet let’s have a shadow cabinet so for example millor as Commerce Minister taking on P go to Mumbai people and because we in the bay I’m taking right right just imagine that
Or akilesh yadav as the home minister taking on Amit Shahi or you know sain pilot and some responsibility taking or Sashi taru taking on J Shankar G at least have a shadow cabinet take a decision stop being so uh timid about it now September the meeting happened in height we now in
December while we’re shooting this right you’ve not even decided what who’s your face you you’ve not decided what is your seat composition which I think is not a very big problem at least get the low hanging fruits out of the way let people see something is happening you’ve taken
No decision so you don’t think the seed sharing is going to pose a problem I don’t think so and I’ll explain to you why so a lot of times people ask me why in 90% of the uh constituencies the issue is solved where there is a congress versus
BJP direct fight there are no Regional parties where the regional parties are strong you can adjust seats so there’s no problem the problem is in two or three states which I again don’t think should be looked at as a problem but as an opportunity to grow so for example
Kerala you don’t need to do an alliance with the left because if you do an alliance the opposition space would go to the BJP you don’t need to do it fight in Kerala fight in Punjab do an alliance in Delhi be clear in your communication
Tell people and I’m sure you can work it out do you think it’s too late now for this Alliance to get the act together and convey a convincing message no if they if they if they focus like how Arjun focused on the eye of the fish
They can but they have to be focused they cannot be distracted with with surround sound very often they get distracted by surround sound the issues of India are not the size of the teeth of the lion on Parliament the issues of India not the Prime Minister going in a
Dressing room you get distracted by surround sound the issues of India is lack of spending amongst corporates is is lack of is is is is uh highest unemployment in 40 years is is um other issues that have to do with people’s Lively lives being more difficult is
Also to do with Liberty at least in urban centers you have to communicate and articulate that to the people with a vision of how you will make it better you cannot just keep saying BJP is bad you got to say what you are going to offer to the people of India as an
Alternative so it should be issue based it shouldn’t be about running down personalities or you know because that hasn’t worked right calling the PM PTI and things like that so I don’t I don’t like that I don’t think he should do it having said that it was The Honorable PM
Who started it against Rahul Gandhi by calling him words that I don’t want to use he said it first but I just feel you must you must follow you must not fall for what they are doing because it doesn’t work for you a it doesn’t work
For you politically and why do you want to go down to that level and second stop taking his name because IND would never take a itical opponent’s name call him the PM you don’t have to keep taking his name every time how does it matter to somebody staying in in Mumbai whether
Bandra car or townside or wherever that the prime minister went into a dressing room how does it matter what does matter is how can you make their life better can we focus on that so you’re saying of course take it you know make it an issue based Campaign which
I I me I’m seriously they don’t they don’t have the answers to what is going to create jobs in the future take them on on that you are arguing about the line was growling and not smiling like how how does it matter to to that last man or woman standing in Bihar who’s
Getting 5 kgs russan and I’m saying this because I actually am concerned about I want to see the BJP defeated I’m coming from a good space I’m not right-wing I’m Centrist I want to see the bgp lose but fight on issues that matter so so why
Why do you want to see the BJP lose I want to ask you because I just think that the BJP doesn’t have an economic vision for the country they keep talking about us being a 5 trillion economy which is great and I hope we soon become a 5 trillion 10 trillion 20 trillion
Economy great what is our per capita income have we got people out of poverty in these last 10 years or more people have gone in have our lives become easier or have to become first I don’t think they have an economic road map I don’t even think
They have a scientific road map yes of of course very proud ISRO we landed chandrian on the South Pole very proud but those are things that we had started achievements long back the world of science is going to change dramatically with quantum computers coming in we not nowhere even building a quantum computer
Europe’s doing it China’s doing it America is doing it okay where are we on Quantum what is our theory on Quantum what is our theory on AI what is our web 3.0 web 3.0 fintex they they are not all all of them are being registered in Dubai why are they not being registered
In India because you don’t have rules what are the rules on crypto we don’t have rules on crypto how are you going to create future jobs you’re telling there’s highest unemployment 40 years I agree how are we going to create jobs I say we because I want the BJP to lose
That’s what we should do but I dislike the BJP particularly because they are clueless on these issues so you’re saying because they have no economic and scientific road map but the economy is growing by 7.6 as of the last quarter at what baseus 23 first time the economy contracted in
40 years that part de avoid since now we are the world’s fifth largest economy which I’m very proud of why is it that a per capita income didn’t go up which means which is even more worry that your money is based on uh few people getting rich which is very little second your
Expenditure right now which is happening is either government expenditure which is happening or people doing it on credit the demand for jobs under manre have been the highest that they’ve been in the last U 15 OD years which means that people are not getting works out so they are now seeking that 100%
Guaranteed employment under mrea yeah would this India Alliance have a road map too get a serious road map and go to the people or hire me I’ll tell you aren’t you already advising them I am I am but we should take it more seriously no because if you’re saying BJP doesn’t
Have the answer then I definitely don’t think the India Alliance they do and we should take it to the people at least smart people in the India Alliance do have tell me how can you lose some somebody as talented or not use somebody as talented as a sain pilot or a milora
Or even lose a Jas India so so you tell me because see you are a staunch Congress loyalist okay you do call them out on their mistakes so why I mean Congress is looking like a bit of a losing proposition but you continue to support them and be a loyalist again why
Because uh my family’s been associated with them okay since Mahatma Gandhi’s time my grandfather was with Mahatma Gandhi in jail oh yeah yeah this is pun okay yeah when kasturba passed away in yada Jil in aakhan Palace okay so Gandhi was imprisoned kasturba passed a day he moved to aakhan because kasturba was
Quite unwell and uh my grandfather was with him when there was uh the first or the second assassination attempt on Gandhi oh yeah yeah this was after Pune he was because kasba passed away then he was released he was on his way to punch when there was an assassination attempt on
Gandhi but the same people by the way who assassinated him later my association with uh my family’s Association of Congress has to do with the G with Mahatma Gandhi it’s a deep Association okay that is a deep Association yeah so I will I will I voted Congress all my adult life and I
Will die voting Congress okay I I really want Congress is but do they still uphold Mahatma Gandhi’s ideology principle I think to Great extent Rahul do what do you hope I mean do you hope for a ticket are you going to get into electoral politics I don’t know at this
Moment at this moment I’m like I’m just in a very good space okay I don’t know what shall be shall be I haven’t thought about this I know if I get I’ll win the BJP can’t defeat me in if I fight from where I where I will
Fight but I don’t know if I want to commit myself where would you fight from wherever I fight from the will defeat me but the point is I don’t know if I want to at this point Point completely do that uh that’s one um second I I I I
Feel I contribute a lot more being outside because it makes me um it gives me the sense to remain balanced and also call out wrong at the part where I am supporting right so I also think that I like that view it’s almost like there is this political
Universe and then I’m in Another Universe observing it yeah part of it when I want but still at the same time away so I can be fair and take Fair calls so I do like that space a lot okay you like that space so do do they pay
Heed to your advice I mean you must be quite close to Rahul Gandhi and they pay heed to my advice but they didn’t pay hit to my advice on not raising the OBC issue in in Mad position chtis gar okay so they didn’t so what’s your analysis or
Postmortem of the this um the state elections and the LW in madad we should have won mad Pradesh chattis gar was completely read it wrong the team that was working there should be questioned but madhi Pradesh was was an election to have taken home it is astounding the way
It was lost but also the narrative there were many reasons of the defeat but one of the reasons was the OBC census in Mad Pradesh okay uh the Congress did not realize that Madia Pradesh already had an OBC chief minister in shrat Singh Chan they again have OBC chief minister
Now in yadav Dr yadav G prior to that de babulal gore and um bti were OBC so that was never going to resonate what happened with that is the votes in the vendale areas and other areas which would have come to Congress which are traditional Congress votes I don’t like
The word upper clast but I’m using it for lack of another word traditional Congress votes didn’t come to Congress because of that OBC thing now the OBC issue cast census is an important one for national elections not for State elections okay so it shouldn’t have been raised
There that that whole issue is more a central issue you’re saying yes and when you are in power you can implement it which you should based on Merit people should get the fruits of development but you know the BJP does have welfare schemes and things okay let you know
We’re talking there is a certain divisive politics also and hinda and stuff but aside from that you know that I mean and you have of course criticized their economics and their lack of a plan but they do have welfare schemes which have benefited rural poor and urban poor
You talk to people on the ground you know when I travel I try to talk to people you talk to people who come from Bihar and up and work in Mumbai and they say that their families have benefited right so I mean how would given that they’ve benefited whether it’s with bank
Accounts money in their bank accounts rations and these things are delivered right so I mean then that becomes stuff to counter right for the India it’s not tough to counter but yes I completely agree to this point I completely concede to it the BJP does not win only because
Of hinda that’s a misn that’s wrong the BJP has managed to associate Modi G with nationalism and in that nationalism comes hinda in that nationalism comes the welfare schemes the laes the speaker is the of the but but look that’s a genius of the man he’s done it yeah so what you’re
Saying is right is right yeah they have benefited now to counter that you have to give your own version of welfare schemes to people with a guarantee that they will get what they’re getting so so for example in madya Pradesh another reason for uh BJP winning and Congress
Losing was a lot of people said felt that a largely scheme that shivr Singh Johan was putting money into women’s accounts would go away door Congress guaranteed it now you see the Congress should have focused more on that rather than OBC so had they focused more on that convincing the women like listen
What you’re getting from shivat Singh Chan’s government not only will we give it we’ll enhance it and we’ll make it better for you to come into the productive Workforce before Modi G became prime minister he had a Gujarat model now you can argue or dis or or disagree with the Gujarat model that’s
Fine he had a model to show people we don’t have a model to show people now the India Alliance has a unique Advantage it can take the education and Maha model from B from Arvin krial it can take some welfare that m g has done something that’s tamado done which is
Phenomenal State Kerala model uh Maharashtra model that the when the UPA was in power here Karnataka model Telangana model and present it to the people that our our model will be a mix of all these models versus the BJP model or the Modi G model but at least k
No it’s a communication social media strategy I hope you’re helping them with all that because I mean BJP has nailed it they have nailed their social media their marketing everything I think they’re overhyped I think the BJP is also overhyped I don’t think it’s as
Difficult to be to be I know what I’m going to say I’ll get trolled but it’s true it’s not difficult to beat the BJP just do the simple things correct and you can beat the BJP it’s not that the BJP some what is the model that they’ve
Had in 10 years can anyone Define it yes they’ve had they’ve brought in nationalism with bit of religiousity and uh socialism did the congress not do it in the 70s so you’re saying it’s actually not as difficult as people think it is so I gave an example and
I’ll I’ll I’ll um and a lot of people tweeted me on this so I’ll try and explain so I’m a I’m a huge fan of quantum physics huge like I love quantum physics which I think is by the way is is is uh very inspired by Hinduism yes
Especially the Vantas yeah and uh if you read the Vantas which I I get a yeah I study vidanta as well so so this is completely you know uh this is there in our books now mathematically it’s possible to go faster than the speed of light but the
Laws of physics don’t allow you to go faster than the speed of light so for example if I were to throw this watch on the wall if you could go faster than the speed of light the watch would be seen on the wall before it actually hit the
Wall so the laws of physics prevent it so the laws of math will allow you to beat the bgp the laws of politics at this moment don’t allow you to beat the bgb however there’s a Twist here this is where Quantum comes in Einstein said e
Is equal to MC square so what is the mass what is the velocity with which it goes if I don’t throw a velocity it fall down so the watch hitting the wall just because it’s thrown is not a given okay it can still be defeated all right so
The laws of physics do allow it if you can manipulate the mass or the so you still can be the BJP so yes the BJP at this moment it looks simple like the watch if I throw it on the wall it’ll hit the wall yes but it can still be
Defeated if you can play on the other things so that’s what you got to do you got to think in another dimension which is where I come to Quantum think outside the box do you know Vantas talk a lot about what now quantum physics or Physicians are discussing including about relativity including about
Different Realms yes the open shards you know some the opening lines in in some the upanishads talk about that that theory of relativity which even Einstein has acknowledged that the Isha upanishad spoke about what he spent his life researching so it is great abely we now
Know that we are just a tiny dot in the Milky Way which is billions of stars and there are four trillion galaxies like the Milky Way this was all said is all written in our upanishads and in all our books I find that very fascinating therefore I find quantum physics very
Very close to to the study of upanishads and other books but I’m good to know that you read it no no no I I have been studying it I’m I must admit I don’t know much about quantum physics but yes I I love studying The Vedas and which brings me
To to the point that people appreciate that about the BJP that they’ve drawn attention to Hindu philosophy that okay I mean yes I’m not talking about divisive forms of hinda but they have you know brought that pride in Hindu culture Indian culture yoga and things like that and people actually
Like that people didn’t do yoga before Modi G came they did yoga but I’m just asking you I don’t know I’m asking you when I travel I speak to people about politics and who they support and then they do say some people let’s say in some states like utak and all they have
This feeling that the Congress did not have instilled this pride in Hinduism and India they have this Fe I agree with you this is a exception the Congress will have to fight the Congress was the India’s first Hindu nationalist party it’s lost that space the Congress needs to understand why they’ve lost become
Moved away from being the principal Hindu nationalist party to becoming this party that looks so left yes I think the Congress needs to to to to reflect on that and my reasoning for that is some of these left loonies in the Congress okay like who no names taken ask me no
Names and I shall tell you no lies all right so think the left need have skewed this oh completely the left loonies in the Congress are are are absolutely clueless so if I if you think I live in a in Another Universe they live in a different Universe ultimately I
Personally believe nothing is greater um for this land than our Hindu culture because culturally we all are Hindus right and I do believe that this is the one culture that that promotes actually promotes fraternity and Brotherhood interesting you say that you know essentially we are culturally all Hindus
You’re born a Muslim your aak khani right yeah so I want to ask you a couple of questions one is how do you feel as a Muslim in India and I read a quote of yours uh I don’t know how accurate it is I read it online saying that I’m with
Anyone who is politically opposed to the RSS so I want to ask you why you opposed to the RSS this is the greatest country in the world I’ve never been discriminated against never felt no never that does not take away from the fact that there are problems for Muslims
In India of course there are problems I will not say that there aren’t I have not faced them but that does not take away in fact I went to court for moob lining yes so I do agree to that I do admit to that but who are the ones who
Fought for me in that moin case couple Cil Hindu sanj Hindu yes this country is is amazing because it’s Multicultural we’ve grown up respecting each other’s Fe and you know you’re a Mumbai girl I’m a Mumbai Puna guy when did we when for for us ganpati is religious but it’s also cultural you
Know what I’m talking about totally when we go to the pundles for for your viewers to understand u in uh what we call mandal but for those who are out of Mumbai and Maharashtra pandals are called Mandel in Maharashtra you go to Mandel you’ll find Muslims there you’ll
Find siks there Christians there they’re all sitting there you know how it works it’s a celebration ganpati comes home the Muslims will come down and do a PO jender Society so so for us that Cultural Association has always been there so you said aakh my mom goes to
Jamat I’m I’m atheist but so jamaat khas so we have jamat khas diali it’s lit up we have Modi just for the record why I’m opposed to the RSS now let me tell you I’m opposed to the RSS because I believe the rsis is an organization that is not
Democratic and I don’t think it is pro youngsters it is pro women I don’t think it is pro equality why does the RSS not have a Del Chief or an OB OBC Chief so far when will they make one which brings me to another issue of your own brother and he
Is a BJP spokesperson and a talented spokesperson that tented I think that uh the BJP has two very talented spokespersons three but two active Sanu and Shazad I do believe they’re the two best so when he left the Congress in 2017 because didn’t you try to stop him
No you didn’t I was in Bangalore my wife and I were in Bangalore I didn’t know he was this that interview he was doing I had no idea I knew he was having issues he was upset about the election of the Congress president at that time right
Lot lot of he wasn’t given his due obviously he is very talented so then obviously he was not given his due and the BJP gave him his due right I guess that’s one way of looking at it my way of looking at it is slightly different
Uh we don’t leave the we don’t leave the Congress we we we fight for the Congress so it’s different points of views wow you’re a true loyalist so right now you don’t I mean other than so other than debating him on like National media do
You have much to do with him no not at all it feels you feel bad about it of course um from both ends I I wish our relationship would have been more stable and I wish we both would have handled it better yeah I do feel very bad because I
Raised him as a child okay he’s your younger brother yeah 6 years younger so I raised him as a child I feel bad of course I feel bad I mean I do love him a lot right he’s my brother he’s I mean he’s my blood of course I love him but
That’s how it is that’s hope for your sake that at some point there’ll be some reconciliation Q Sarah Sarah what shall be shall be right now the TV channels are totally exploiting this yeah but situation you see but you see uh we both are very good in debating so it works
He’s he’s he’s but I do believe uh and I can see he’s his his research his way of speaking his command over the language is is is is astounding I feel bad that the Congress lost somebody as talented as him so a couple of people I feel bad
That the Congress lost jya cindia G him bis Sharma G and Shad there such talented people you don’t want to lose such talented people so I I feel bad now you can now and this is another criticism of the Congress now I see a lot of Congress handles criticizing jya
Sy and he say oh he’s he didn’t become chief minister Union minister civil AV up smell the coffee he’s in power you’re not yeah and you almost lost others and this is a big criticism of the Congress right sidelining Talent not giving talent that do now with Rajasthan
Finally can we have Sachin in a main role not that I’m a huge fan of Sachin he’s a friend but he I’m not a huge fan of his or in fact I think as g g was okay as chief minister but now when does the change happen you see BJP made the
Changes now now you can agree disagree with the changes that you can say insulted sh Raji baji you can see it but change is the is the law of life so I mean coming to another issue last couple of questions um we’re sitting in Bombay this is Buzz by the bay and Maharashtra
Politics what’s your take on it we’re a bit of a circus so I’ll give you my honest and this I’ve seen Maharashtra in my lifetime I’m seeing Maharashtra politics go down a a spiral which Maharashtra politics wasn’t you know and even as recently as the
Days of vasra deshmuk G and goat Mund G they would be such Kamar and that’s what made or Pal takre G and shat Paar G at that point there always be friendship right so there was always beyond the assembly there was friendship and that’s what made Maharashtra the progressive
Liberal state that it is it’s a very Progressive and liberal State what’s happening now is politics of the lowest rung not good for the state and because of this politics all our projects are going out of the state all of them the diamond Hub is
Gone so so many things are going out the the the chip factory event um so many uh Anil agarwal’s investment all of them are going out that’s one number two so you have to unite for Maharashtra number two I think that um somewhere the MBA government that is the earth while udav
Takri government needs to ask itself what was takri G doing he was chief minister how do you not know your ml are being escorted by your own police to another state yeah what are you doing and I don’t support I I I have never liked Ajit Paar G and the NCP I
Think NCP is an imped to congress’s growth I think the Congress would be well advised the Maharashtra Congress to stay away from them even sharat Paar g i I have a lot of respect for d g he’s a gentleman but to resign on Facebook look at say you’ve betrayed me
My father got you up no absolutely anyway we’re going to see now soon what what the outcome is you know and The Honorable speaker has to take a call and we’re going to see how that plays out um lastly I want um to ask you what is your
Vision for a progressive unified India and what is your wish list for 24 if you could name three things wish list for 2024 is uh less division more Unity less heat more uh calm and peace and uh more growth for our country okay peaceful growth for our country uh what
Is my vision for a unified uh India is an India where people progress because of Merit not because of where they are born or where they or the privilege that they have everyone has a right to dignity everyone has a right to to health care and education and that must
Be Universal across no matter whose child it is they must get the same quality education healthare and and and dignity that anybody else gets we cannot have an India where some people get more privileges than the other ultimately when you go ahead in life it should be
Only because of Merit not because of where you came from meritocracy must rule yes absolutely agree with you on that thank you thank you so much for joining us on Buzz by the way that was a very very fascinating conversation thank you
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