So that was uh what led me into the spiritual realization to answer the original question of the importance of understanding our multi-dimensional and the true history of the earth everything has been hidden everything we’ve been taught and trained is a lie and that’s because the bad guys literally own the planet Welcome to far out with F everybody I am fa Chicho and today I’m excited and delighted to be joined by Robert Potter let me tell you about this extraordinary individual and what he has been up to he’s a world-renowned real physical cont contact D of the venetians and the pans
He shares his knowledge freely about travelers from these worlds he’s been having actual physical encounters with our ET brothers and sisters since he was 17 he’s given seminars all over the world and appeared on numerous radio and TV shows interviewed by countless magazines and newspapers he been at this
For 45 years he’s been a messenger for the Venetian hierarchy of light sharing messages of love and hope for the people of this planet for just as long and if like me as soon as you heard the word venetian you got excited and so when I
When I read about this man I had to reach out to him and and he got back to me and we hit it off so he also leads sacred site tours to South America Bolivia Peru and Egypt and Hawaii to name a few he’s been working closely
With the venetians and he says that their philosophies and technological advancement can surely serve to Enlighten us towards an era of peace and prosperity for all and the the mission statement that I’ve gathered from diving into Rob’s work work is one of Liberation Justice equality fraternity and freedom from from The Tyranny that
We see trying to engulf the world particularly right now there seems to be a very desperate attempt going on Rob can be found across the circuit of festivals podcasts radio shows um and he’s always sharing the developments and plans for the liberation of the planet given to him from the interdimensional Galactic
Federation Confederation of light and ascended masters so without further Ado let me introduce Robert Potter thank you for beinging in brother it’s great to have you on the show hey thanks a lot f it was really an honor and you know I I A lot of times when uh people ask me I
Kind of give them that big download and I I kept throwing the stuff at you and most people just go the ship is listing or window cage comes down and go TMI and um I I’m trying to moderate my presentation now there’s a lot of things
That are going to be happening very soon on our planet that are important for people to have a little bit of a background and at this point um you know I’ve mentioned to you before I’m sometimes considered the con the the conspiracy theorist of the conspiracy theorists wow even many of them can’t
Grasp or understand the simple reality of um life in our solar system and everyone’s looking to the plees and to Arcturus and Sirus and this solar system is teeming with life so um you know I’m nothing special I’m a postman delivering a message and as long as I
Maintain my my vows to uh keep within the parameters that I’m told uh there’s certain things I’m not permitted to talk about um I really want to tell everything I can but for certain and unfortunately I’m going to have to say political reasons and people’s perceptions I have to certain keep
Things secret but um uh I have a a friend who’s going to you’re going to meet and um at some point bring him on he lived on Venus for two and a half months and we’re gonna run through a whole bunch of stuff here today and and hopefully in the future sounds great
Brother yeah I mean and and the friend that Rob is referring to is Raymond Keller who who wrote A A Trilogy of books which we’re g to talk about a little later we’re gonna get book nine books now that’s right nine books my god um I have a lot of I love reading
Thankfully uh catching up to do but uh so how did this people are probably wondering how how that clearly you are very much you know um this has become your world in a lot of ways and and I’m sure it took a lifetime to get to where
You are so I I guess you know and the thing I was curious about as well is you know you like you just said people are often at first drawn to the Pates and to AR tourist and too serious and and and you know towards some of some of the
Races that we know were involved in in in humanity you know um design and all that but but you don’t often hear people talking about the the venetians um and I mean the closest thing I could say I heard like I was telling you when we
Talked on the phone is you know the hathors always claimed um that they lived on Venus at some point and then they’re represented by the cat by that the cat um in Egypt that cat figure that’s kind of cute and feminine looking not really a cat they kind of have big
Ears it’s a I’m not sure but yeah yeah but but but and it’s weird because you know I and I’m and I’m also knee in all this stuff and always reading about it and you don’t hear a lot about Venus um and it is it is our sister planet um and
And so when I read about you I was like oh man I could I couldn’t wait to learn from you and I’m wondering how how when did it it take a turn to Venus for you how did it start well the law started when I was 16
I’m now 66 years old and I would found a scientist named Dr Fred Bell and he’s got a book on my site and he was quite famous in the day and uh and uh let’s just say his great uncle invented the telephone his father invented the automatic transmission the alternator
Last name Bell the Bell right the oh wow okay yeah and his father invent a transmission the alternator for Henry Ford Fred was running around in his hemp Fields you know in the late 50s the government had outlawed hemp uh because they didn’t want uh you know alternative
Fuel oil and other things like that so um then he went to work for the Air Force in charge of the top ridar set I told you about that he was a whistleblower and then he went to work for uh NASA he became a whistleblower
There they paid him a lot of money and begged him to be in charge of the electrical SA on NASA and he gave him the bird and weren was continued working for Rockwell and JPL at the time I met him um you know his life had taken a spiritual turn
And meeting Masters and um I myself have had a lot of amazing experiences in my life so uh through him I started having contact with uh the pleadian seasi and I’m just going to show you this is a very famous book Wendell Stevens this is
The the book that set the world on fire in 1979 when it came out now I was getting uh the contact notes of Billy Meyer prior to this book coming out through Colonel Wendell Stevens oh wow so these are all the famous UFO contact from the plea these books yeah now I I
Took Wendell Stevens to um to Egypt back when and there was a one armed farmer named Billy Meyer an amazing guy um had you know probably over 300 physical contacts traveling to other solar systems in the future in the past it it’s a you know that’s where all this started now
Wendell Stevens um because I was getting these contact notes I was very um respectful of him he wrote an incredible number of books UFO contact from omo I ARA blah blah he’s got like 10 books uh the government set him up in jail but he
Gave to me now you can imagine this book is pretty rare and sought after right he gave to me book number two wow look at that Billy Meyer has number one Wendell Stevens within a week of his death gave me number one and he was fond
Of me and um I didn’t spend a lot of time with him but you know uh a lot of experiences with Fred Bell and I don’t want to go too much into esoteric aspect but um Fred was very well connected he had been taken up up uh by the pleadians in
A spaceship at Giant Rock before I met him in 1973 he um and was in a plad ship with two other people I knew them and then um he had other experiences um before he lived actually in Georgia damsky house on nestal Road in Laguna Beach California and a spaceship appeared and
A woman opened the door and waved and he goes who are you and she telepathically said you’ll hear of my name from a foreign land and of course that was uh sasi he was contacting him and Fred as a scientist proving that he wouldn’t work for Death and destruction with the
Highest integrity and moral character was chosen uh because of his um uh incredible IQ in physics always the smartest guy in the room studying the shock wave of the atomic bomb at 15 um became my mentoring guide and I was having experiences then with uh ships
Following me down at 3: in the morning after I would go out of my body and have these training experiences so it’s kind of a very complex metaphysical uh experience but to answer the question um I lived in Palm Springs I was a massage therapist A Healer most of my life and I
Still do that a little bit but I was working in a very famous Spa that was very Hollywood big money big names I could name drop for hours but um uh there was another famous contact who I could share with you about the venutian at some point but um he invited
Me up to his place and he was a trainer and uh then a a meeting was arranged not formally but we were talking about some things and I left and then we went down the the road and the venetians uh came to me wow five of them in a mint
Conditioned baby blue and white Chevrolet convertible with three beautiful women in the back and uh a famous gentleman named Don Thor uh Valiant Thor’s brother Valiant Thor was adopted by the Thor family he materialized on Venus one day he was a created being probably six-dimensional um and um how did you
Find out they were so so how did so did you saw the beautiful women and you and then you saw the how did you how did you then confirm how did you like what what happened oh is that the story you were started telling me on the phone I think
Maybe um is that the one that well no no that might be a different story but tell me how you how you how you how how you then conf like figured out who they were and and where they were from and what was happening this is part of my uh
Process I’m going to share a screen so you can know who I met and how I knew it so um I’m going to share uh the screen and I’m going to choose a tab here I guess uh or a window yeah so I’m going to share this one here real quick so this
Is a famous picture taken in 1957 and I’ve met all three of these people here this is the first one I met his name is Don Thor and I’ll just um I’ll just uh do a slideshow I’ll play from current slides so you can see a little better this is pretty famous
Picture this image was taken by doctor by uh a Air Force photographer named Auggie Roberts and he was close with Dr Frank Stranges um and um they he was told by someone that there would be some venutian appearing at Howard MERS they didn’t even tell Howard who they were
But he suspected um he was already in contact with them since um uh the late 40s actually he was the famous one who started the the guy before Art Bell was a guy named Long John nebble and I can share uh you know pictures of him with a
Venutian as well at some point but this guy is the guy that showed up who I recognized I met Valiant Thor in 2003 with uh two women and another man at a rainbow gathering yeah at Dr Frank Strange’s Inner Circle meeting in 2007 she was sitting in the back of the
Room that’s a great story then I met him and I could tell the story of meeting of each of these they did not admit who they are now in 20 7 I was well aware of Dr Frank Strange’s stuff even at the time that I had the meeting with
Him so um keep these guys in mind this is okay uh Commander Valiant Thor uh sixth dimensional or higher uh not venutian but resident there and placed in charge of the earth Mission the overall commander of operations um uh on the of the victor one space Fleet and they’re monitoring
Every the thoughts and minds of lots of people on the planet the military of who know where they are they monitor Isotopes and you know that’s a security so they have several different missions here um that they’re they’re working on so basically I went to meet this guy um
Gabriel green and um would you like to see a picture of him I mean if you think it’s not relevant anyway this guy’s a famous contacte and um I guess I can kind of Bring It Up but this is where it all began let me share this real quick
So you can understand this will kind of give people an understanding of the venutian in fact in the beginning it was all venutian okay so everyone thinks it was started out elsewhere but no the venutian are the primary contact e of Earth and what happened was in the 50s
Um there was a a famous guy who who worked with uh Howard Hughes his name was George vantassel and he along with George adamsky and many others and this guy Bob Short was a close friend of mine he used to call me and uh he was very
Famous for going to sleep and they would speak through him it was really loud he wouldn’t know so this is out in the 50s this is kind of like what I do in Mount Shasta this is the original meetings everyone was coming because of the venutian wow okay they were the ones
That contacted Eisenhower and and told him about the nuclear weapons and all this and so oh that was the V that was the venetians oh the venutian now NASA put out the big disinformation program and people bought it this is George ad damsky this gentleman had a contact in
The desert he took the famous pictures it’s very close related to my mission in fact his meeting took place 67 years to the hour after the contact uh in the desert in 1952 okay so they postponed my meeting so I would be on the exact 67th
Anniversary and if you saw the video of the recorded message that I was allowed to give this is Gabriel green so this guy was a physicist he ran for president with Dan Fry on the UFO he was really into it and he was like um I’m just
Gonna say he was like James gilland on steroids oh wow this this guy had phenomenon and I was guided to him by another brother Frank Chile there’s a very was a small community of contes and I met quite a few of them uh before their passing in the day but these were
The what we call the ground crew who were awakened and aware previous lifetime experience from these other worlds actually and had been chosen to give the message to the people because the government um of the world were controlled by let’s call it Fallen Intruders or Interlopers of elite
Families and and this whole thing is unraveling right now so um what happened was is uh Gabriel’s talking to me so he was amazing I’d go to his house and my car would the battery would go out and I’d Coast down into his driveway no kidding okay and then I’d walk through
The door like one time I had a girlfriend with me and her hair stood out like like a like you had a Tesla electrostatic her hair was out like this she was like what’s that and I said don’t worry I said they’re just saying hello and Gabe was laughing
And so uh you know they would have phenomenon so I’d be in conversations with them and all of a sudden the radio would turn on the other room and I go what was that he goes they’re just that’s an agreement Rob and then we talk
Later and he had a picture of his wife that would tilt and and he goes he goes that’s Helen she’s saying hi and you know wow it was just really out there this is ET 101 where I began to understand their monitoring capabilities the fact that they’re uh in process in
Guiding me I was having experiences with Fred Bell this was in 1982 84 I met Fred Bell in 76 lights were following me I was seeking a deeper nosis Fred would tell me nothing wow I would go out of my body and sometimes I’d come back goes
You better take an epon Sal bath you know that was a big one today and you know and he kept telling me you got to go out you got to get out and tell your own thing and I was it wasn’t physical you know so like a ship would follow me
Down the hill the light would be there pulsing i’ just say I just want to know and then I’d get to my house and be outside just pulsing between me and the hill in Bluebird Canyon and I would be crying and finally they sent me up to
Him at some point that’s another story but so he tells me I go what what do they wear and all this stuff and he goes he goes well they really love the 50s Rob goes oh yeah they were into it he said that he said their hair was back
And uh you know Rebel Without a Cause Fonzy all over the place yeah so I go oh so I’m going down and back then we had something called a tick tock like a 7-Eleven yeah and I pulled in this Tick Tock in yucka Valley and as I’m coming
In as I’m walking up the ramp income a mint condition 1957 uh blue and white convertible Chevy with the top down and three beautiful kind of like my hair the vians have like a white blonde hair a lot of yeah anyway not all of them it’s a that’s a complex
Thing there but um they uh these girls had ponytails a pigtail and they had uh White blouses and checkered uh skirts now the checkered skirts were a little shorter than they would have seen in the 50s not quite like Austin Powers twins but but similar little higher and they they put their
Legs over the side of the car and they hopped out and they came up behind me there was a guy in the front and I’ve seen him I I believe this is the guy I’ve seen many times here in Oregon and he pops up and now and then he’s this
The same venutian I don’t know his name but I get a register and I go that’s the guy again and I just don’t they have a way of blocking you from from doing things and uh they don’t really want to be confronted so this was my first to my knowledge recognition meeting after
Gabriel green so incomes uh oh and they had the knee high white socks and brown and white saddle shoes oh wow wow so this was a really cool thing they had landed somewhere decloaked boom drive up and do a little demo for me in 1984 so
This was kind of like um again this is part of my lifetime of meetings it it’s always behind the scenes and yeah left to my own um intuition and discernment so in comes Don Thor as I’m checking out you know the girls are skipping down the
Aisles and I was with another guy he didn’t recognize I said his name is Michael algan he’s spiritual guy real contact he has a lot of stuff and I said I said that’s them the visitors and he goes he go what no no and I I just
Didn’t even bother just focusing on Don Thor walking in and he comes up and he gets the counter right before me and he turns to me and he looks with that same thing where his eyebrows a little bit raised like like this and uh he goes
I’ll have a pack of cigarettes and I just went like this and he looked back at me and I just telepathically said I said go ahead Light It Up and Smoke I know you guys don’t smoke yeah so the guy gives him the cigarettes and I’ve
Told this story many times but get this he starts pounding them on the counter Bam Bam Bam upside down camels unfiltered right pounding them you how they used to pound the cigarettes pack them yeah and then when I said that telepathically to him he says I’ll have a pack of match
Get keep in mind 82 you could have smoked in the store in those days right right so so he and I go I said oh kind of like oh you up the ante I said go ahead light it up so he takes the cigarettes and he has up mattress
And he goes like this he was wearing a white T-shirt like Fonzi yeah he was wearing uh you know uh jeans and and penny loafers with the penny in it and um and he takes he rolls it up in his sleeve wow so that was an amazing contact experience uh the next uh
Contact experience and I’m not sure it was venutian but that was another one I’ll let you take some other questions I don’t want to just keep going yeah no no no problem no no that’s that’s that’s how it started you you hear the wildest stories when like when people get up
There like you know they were they were wearing you know and then you hear about the regalia that they had on and you’re like like it was it’s it’s like always reminiscent of of of a of a costume you know but of course it it seems that way
To us probably but um you know you I hear Tales of space boots and and and all kinds of things that are just too too wild to be made up you know what I mean when you hear something you’re like that that sounds too crazy to be false
Almost you know um but I’m just reminded that when I hear about foni and the way that guy carried himself it’s it’s amazing so so from from there you know I when when did it start to become you know because obviously the it it progressed as with
Your spiritual journey as as you evolved I’m sure that the the messages evolved and and you know as you became you know and easier filter and contact e that tends to facilitate more messaging right um and so what like when did it intensify and when did you start to get
You know was it after you met Raymond that you started to get these you know TR true like this is a message that you need to deliver you know um an important message and and I’ve read a lot of important messages that you were given
In in your work and and we’re going to get into some of them because they have to be said and and and reset and and and people need to per we to permeate the consciousness of the planet with these messages because truly our you know our
Evolution um is going to depend on this being absorbed by the by the collective and so I’m wondering when when did it become when did you realize your mission I guess I recognized my Mi Mission very early on for me it was a Spiritual Development Fred Bell told me to read
Autobiography of a yogi and some other books about the esoteric uh teachings of the of the What’s called the great work or the Plan of Redemption of the planet that has to do with literally an interdimensional planetary thing it’s so convoluted it’s very difficult right now there’s a lot of young people uh
Intuitive tuning into a lot of the the what’s been going on but a lot of that stuff is almost is over now that’s a very another area that’s very triggering this has to do with uh understanding religion and spirituality so I was a hippie I grew up in Laguna Beach Laguna
Beach was unique you know the first surfing contest in the United States ever was in lagona Beach we had a huge s surf culture I grew up on the beach uh in a multi-million dollar house owned by my stepfather and Fred Bell lived vertically right up this that Hill from
Me on Bluebird and at uh what we call Arch Beach Heights up there and uh for me I was a hippie I was like I could see everything bad I remember I was I think it was 13 I read in the Los Angeles Times at the bottom of the page uh it
Was in the very last page of the Los Angeles Times that said the United States Congress absolved the Ford Motor Company of trees and for building the comma truck uh plant um in across the border no from Vietnam vietn they were supplying right across the border they were supplying uh Vietnam with the
Trucks that were fighting us and they said so I could see the same with Hitler Hitler they were financing him and I got a whole I have a whole thing we could do meet the Hitlers where I’ll show you some crazy stuff and I have photographic evidence from Hitler’s bodyguard Autos
Scor zini who exposed George Bush and the family as Nazis and that that’s a whole another mind-blowing Rabbit Hole I’m going to be producing kind of stuff on I often go down that rabbit hole and and try to inform people just I’m gonna I’m gonna share that so basically for me
It’s a spiritual thing and uh I was uh Timothy ly was arrested in my hometown the Brotherhood of eternal love you know he was working on The Monto experiments and decided that LSD was a good thing and that um the government uh control Network he was arrested you know uh just
Down the street from me and the cops pulled him over he went to jail then he was broken out by the Black Panthers wow in a laundry truck and ended up in Switzerland and um holy we had we also had Raj Nishi and Hari Krishna in town it was a spiritual epicenter of
Hippies and um you know the the Make Love Not War group right and so uh that was my upbringing my mother was a metaphysician and my great-grandmother was Katherine Tiffany of the Tiffany lamps and jewelry Fame and so so my mother was exposed to a lot of uh uh
They started uh a magazine called the printer Zeke which was fighting the Revolution and she was close with Harry Houdini she supported financially Ernest Holmes of religious science and the science of the Mind Mary Baker Eddie I believe so she was influential in the spiritualism movement of the time of um
Of the truth that’s out there in the multi-dimensional universe so my mother kind of bred me into that open mind although she could accept my experiences and so um oh wow the next step of my contacts was Gabriel called me one day and said there’s a teacher being sent
For you because I was having these experiences with Fred and I realized that there’s a spirit this isn’t about silver spaceships and space suits no it’s not this is about a planatory Awakening of the truth the truth of the nature of reality the truth of God and
The truth of the individual God within you or what is known as the the Christ principle or the Christ Consciousness and I don’t want to associate this in a personality cult but um a lot of things to unwrap there but um so he called me the Gabriel green again calls me on a
Pager in 1983 he goes rob you got to get up here to uh there’s a teacher coming to you m the ascended master laran I go I knew he’s descended Master there’s seven c-and of the Ray I don’t want to go into that more esoteric stuff but so
Um he’s a he’s a master on the fifth Ray of concrete science and knowledge and as such I was working in um because Fred was a master right of that not an ascended Master but a master in in science and knowledge and he said um there’s a teacher being sent for you
Because I was getting a little bit I was going out of my body lights were following me Fred was going like yeah I know what did happen you know or they’re here and you I remember one time we were out 1982 and uh we were up all night and
Had I had a tremendous Revelation I can’t share that more personal esoteric spiritual but um the spaceships came down right above the house boom boom boom just they they jump boom boom boom boom they call them beam ship because they kind of beam from one they kind of
Jump on these things and stopped right above the house and then boom shot up three times Bo boom boom bo boom boom and I looked at him I was about to say something and he just telepathically said don’t say a word watch so the ship
Went up and down so I was having these experiences right that were difficult for me to integrate into my life from my downloads and my downloads were full-blown out out of the body I would leave my body I’d watch the Earth you know it was dark where I was and I would
See I would see light coming up over here and it was darker you know it was it was just kind of um very um it took a lot of years to process to really grasp this with the knowledge I was reading from uh the plees
Stuff and then um so basically um I I said okay I’ll be there and I hung up the phone now this is the 80s baby you know you know discos and and okay so I I mentioned that so so the phone rang like a fire
Alarm and I I was T i’ had already taken a couple steps away and I go I look at the thing and it’s ringing and I and I see a guy it in front of his car got now like pick it up that’s obnoxious and I looked inside the store the the people
That the cter was a really loud fire alarm it’s like they put a beam on it was like it was it wasn’t ring ring it was just like really loud right so actually previously Gabriel had played for me once he got a phone call his niece was
In the house and he got a phone call and a being spoke from outer space it had an echo let me call it a space Echo Gabriel green is is Gabriel green there there there real dramatic and so I picked up the phone and I just heard this Echo the
Same Echo IID heard and they were telling me you know don’t go out to cesil or to one of the nightclubs that I could have easily gone to pick up a girl you know get an eightball of coke and go out that was a day right so um that was before we
Knew all the dangers and all that kind of crazy stuff um so I went up and I’m there and uh there was a guy in his bedroom who came out um kind of mysterious character and um he basically taught me a lot of things about reptilians possessions and the graves
And mind you this is in 1981 or 82 it had always been the space Brothers the benevolent message of peace and hope and then all of a sudden it became about the abductions and the Graze and the fear and the you know we’re being invaded and government s denial it’s it’s it’s
Always big a big scops on the people of the earth so right that meeting culminated um after a long evening I won’t go into that too much I on many other interviews because the story had never changes but he showed me about a possession and reptilian shape shifting
This kind of stuff and um then he took me and Gabe and that other guy that I talked about micheel Legion out into the desert um we didn’t know where we’re going Gabe didn’t know he didn’t know but they told him a mile mile and a half we kept going
Down these roads and we know he’s come you know a mile in 710 or whatever and um we’d come up to a stop sign and he goes well this is the place Gabe you know where we’re at he goes well that’s Bob Short’s house but he’s gone he’s in the he’s in
New York but let’s he goes okay let’s go there and we go there two minutes later a car pulls up and it’s got another famous UFO researcher who just got back from a contact with the plees and he was staying at his house so it
Got dark and this is back in yua Valley no lights it was you know the Stars you could touch them and um so he says let’s go ready for the demonstration we go down there and we’re sitting in a like a thing facing like this and we’re just
Sitting here waiting and he goes oh he goes up there now look and you just see this little twinkling blue light and boom it’s sitting on the floor oh wow on the desert um you know closer than my window behind me yeah I have a crystal in structure
There that’s a part of my pleadian technology but that’s about where it was I was sitting there looking at it and uh we were all just silent and uh the female voice and I believe it was seasi I was eventually beamed aboard their Mothership in 1989 uh with Fred Bell physically and
Came down at 6:00 in the morning that’s another story but um all this time uh to my outer knowledge I I’m not involved in the conversation until this was probably this was actually my first conversation that I can recognize I didn’t speak to Don Thor that time but
Um so uh she said now you know Rob and this is what I’d been saying all the time to the lights that were following me and pulsing outside my window waves of Love I’d be crying like a baby I want to know the truth why can’t you just
Talk to me what’s going down so I was getting a little unstable I was questioning Fred at some point I said you know more than you do why can’t you tell me and he just I said you can’t you sworn to secret you just not his head
And he looked down like sorry I’m not allowed to tell you yeah and I found out later it’s for my own safety there was a lot of stuff going on with the the silence group and they do they will kill people lot of that’s pretty standard for
Them and keeping this uh uh great spiritual Knowledge from us so the conversation went something like this she said um she said now you know I said well this is beautiful I said I guess that means we can have the hippie beautiful nature with high technology
She said yes absolutely and I was kind of crying I said I said this is wonderful and there’s a couple other things in there a little personal but and then I said well how can I help and she says you can help because you’re having this experience you can share
This experience and they’ll know by the way you tell it that you’re telling the truth and so that wasn’t true I told my mom and my sister they go go ahead take some more mushrooms and hang out at Fred’s house or something right so
Um basically um I said um you know I got to the point and I and I said I was kind of crying through my tears and I said well why don’t you come out I want to can’t why don’t you meet us and she started
Laughing and um I was laughing and I so I’m I’m laughing through my tears like what’s so funny you know in my mind I wasn’t speaking it I said what’s so funny you know in my mind and she says You’ think you’re the Messiah and I kind
Of went like what and uh it was a joke I guess but um um the military guy that was next to me he was the guy that was sent to me he was working he had broken his mind control in Arkansas he was on a a government alien base and he remembered
That he was going up and sitting in the capsule with the little Grays while they would abduct a woman imp plant them with a with an alien baby and take it out three months later this is a transhumanist agenda this is a takeover many people think alien babies are cool
And I think on a certain level perhaps some of them are but it was definitely the whole hybrid craze you’re talking about right yeah lot of people are saying oh that’s a good thing uh This was done against people’s will now I will say that there are certain races
That have agreements with their own incarnations who taking up to take some DNA but um this was a military abduction base and this was definitely part of uh um the trans changing Humanity against their will it’s been done for millions and millions of years it’s another story
That I’m well versed in actually with 66 years of contact experience which no one gets it you know they’re they think I’m crazy but it’s okay I don’t really care at this point I know the message that I have is one of love hope peace Justice and the transformation of the earth so
Yeah and I’ll finish this up real quick here so um so he says have you seen enough and I said yeah she and I knew it was a her I said she’s not coming out he said I know and so get this and this
Kind of and I I’m kind of proud of this moment it it showed me that I was not you know fascinated in the spaceship I’m in was interested in spiritual knowledge and what this contact was given to me for was because I was becoming a little with all of this
Phenomenon was I going crazy I kind of knew I wasn’t but because I’d seen so many things and Fred’s credentials were insane his knowledge was incredible I saw physicist come up and try and yeah try try and disrespect him and um he put him in their PL they would ask a couple
Questions he would go boom they go they ask something then you could see they were thinking goes then he asked them a question and they just go I don’t know boom take their seat so um it was awesome he was developing the interstellar time conversion process of
A spaceship and he we literally built a uh the beginnings of a a spaceship in in his backyard so there was a lot of uh um Technologies stuff that were given to him that he was silenced eventually so to make the long this really long story
I’ll cut it here um I walked away and Michael Legion goes where you going the ship’s not here I turned my back on a spaceship yeah Gabe was over there and I said she’s not coming out and I watched it just disappeared they mooved so fast
Right it’s there you you you see a little bit of a movement it’s all you grasp and it’s completely gone gone yeah so that was uh what led me into the spiritual realization to answer the original question of the importance of understanding our multi-dimensional and the true history of the earth everything
Has been hidden everything we’ve been taught and trained is a lie and that’s because the bad guys literally own the planet and um I’m just going to go back to Christ when he was in the desert Satan came and said hey you’re raising people from the dead you got quite a
Name for yourself worship me I can give you everything I own the world and he said get away so he proved his love for Humanity by dying on the cross and he proved his divinity by his resurrection and that’s close to the venutian Mi Mission this is
Not about religious Dogma this is about the truth of the power of love and that we’re all brothers and sisters and if we do into to others as we would have done it to us the world would be a better place that’s Thea Mission I I love that mission I’m sure
That’s why I’m I’m drawn to it and why we’re having this this discussion as we are you know I was I was struck by what I was reading um in in your Q&A with with the venetians and and this you know it’s fascinating to me that the the ven
The venetians have this it’s venutian right am I I don’t want to keep saying ventian not Venetian not venan no not from Italy no not the Italians um the the venutian that they that they have about it that’s that’s a different podcast um that that they have this hierarchy um
And that there is this this structure to to the way that they are uh presenting information the way that they uh introduce themselves and and and the way that they are titled so to speak um and and that’s very clear you know if if you read every everything about your word
Work that’s the kind of the first thing that people are going to notice is that um you know there’s there seems to be this this mil military uh structure to to to the way that they are ordered um which is which is different now you don’t I mean you do hear sometimes you
Know about commanders from the Pates I mean but but but it’s always pretty straightforward and simple there’s not usually a a hierarchy the way that you see with the venutian and uh it’s all hierarchy everywhere it is everywhere right it’s just usually not so pronounced to to humans I bet yeah we’re
We’re in the third dimensional entropic universe so we we’re looking from the valley we’re already Immortal Spiritual Beings we are already Christ all we have to do is to claim it through our Free Will and the the system has been rigged we’re born underwater and mud and
Outside is a glass pyramid and they’re put got oil on it how are you getting out you know it’s difficult to uh get this understanding because the Fallen ones who own the Earth uh created the system they know our DNA and all this stuff but hierarchy let me put it this
Way it’s dimensionality of frequency and even the Fallen beings that are in charge that were in charge I’ll say that have misman misled mankind whose time is over we are about ready in this next year to bust loose with the divine intervention um uh The Wizard of Oz of
The bad guy behind the scene has been removed for the most part behind the scenes guys those with the higher technology extra dimensionals who have subjugated man kind and had a plot to turn us into a battery of dark energy to you know rule the physical light Sy the
Light world so very complex I don’t go too deep into that but um there the hierarchy involves in frequency so you have let’s let’s look at a the pyramids that I have and I you know I make them there’re on my website maybe I’ll share that in a minute but um
Pyramid think of Pink Floyd how I wish how a wish a light hits this you get seven levels of energy right right the base divided by the height reaches the number of pi that’s a number that progresses to Infinity you can never make a perfect circle on the
Physical plane it always is a spiral it goes inside itself so that’s the illusion or what we call Maya in the physical plane now I work with a top level physicist who’s working in time travel with the pleadians I’m not a mathematician but I understand string
And wave theory and all this kind of stuff and a lot of the technologies that the pleadians gave us this jewelry piece and all this stuff is uh based on uh knowledge of the pyramid so you have you have seven planes of existence the physical plane the which is the third dimension you
Have the astral plane which would be considered The Fifth Dimension that’s not the highest we’re going to The Fifth Dimension big deal then you have the mental plane okay uh and then you have What’s called the intuitional plane and then you that would be like the sixth
Diens you know the sixth Dimension and then you have the causal plane and then you have the atmic plane or the plane of soul and then you have the logo plane and all of those planes and all those diens and all those selves are within you in Dr fr’s book he explains it’s
Like a Russian shell game that you have uh inside the electron on the physical plane there are 49 subatomic particles called the Anu inside that are of the astral plane and when you’re on the astral plane if you were looking their their atoms and electrons you would see
Within their 49 of the mental plane and so it’s everything is all happening at once and all time and space it’s you know what it reminds me of it when like so so when you when you study brain waves you know and and if you if you’re watching like someone who’s in a
Meditation and and you see the the you know the brain goes from this you know low beta and then they drop into the meditation and you start to see the coherence come and then you start to see them drop into Theta you know but then but what you notice about the brain
Waves is that you you can’t get to Theta and then lower and then back up if you want to get into a gamma brain wave state you have to go through all the you know they’re all connected right you can’t it’s not like you’re jumping they’re they’re all kind of there but
You just enter into the dominant part of of you know when you get up into gamma um but to drop down into Theta which is the drain wave you have to go through beta and then back up so it’s it just reminds me it’s so much like and it
Reminds me of the the Maya you know the the pyramid it’s it’s it’s it’s all connected you know and that’s why we have we have intuition you know we we’re plugged into all these things all the time it’s just most people are not taught and that’s a great Injustice to
This race to this Humanity that you know that we’re not taught these things how can we develop you know spiritually when when we’re we’re taught we live in a material world it’s such a grave Injustice it’s part of the problem that we’re in right now I think that’s what
Shows like yours and and people who are seeking to truth they going to find out everyone has to use discernment so let me go a little bit into the the the hierarchy aspect other other worlds and other systems we have beings from physical planets that Traverse uh time and space okay they’re
Fourth-dimensional worlds like the seasi and the pleadians have a fourth-dimensional world they’re way in advance of as technologically the pleades which is actually within the Taurus Cloud there’s only seven visible stars but that Taurus cloud has over 250 Stars including Alder Baron and uh you know they got a orange an orange dwarf
Plot all these things and they all have different agendas you know there’s a lot of contact e and their followers unfortunately taking the side my contacte that I follow is the best right you know that person’s a liar and if the if the contact is starts talking about
Other other contact he being false they’re making a big rookie mistake I’m not going to mention any names there’s quite a few out there doing that because you’ve never walked a mile in your own things and you have your own perceptions that’s right and their own experiences
And they’re not going to Ma they’re not going to match up this is the same reason why we get in trouble with religions it’s like no no actually you’re wrong you’re God God couldn’t have looked like that because he looked like this for me oh okay you know this
Is where we run into problems over and over this yeah it’s sad so there’s different agendas each there’s thousands if not millions of federations our galaxy is 110,000 miles light years across Lighty years in the center is a a black hole it’s called the ploma or the
Grand Central sun it’s just you know there’s a light that’s in there it’s that’s coming off the black hole but um they call that the Poma and who knows where that goes you know so um it’s important that we don’t go get too complicated or go out there into
Cosmology but in our quadrant of the Galaxy um we look in and at the center from us would be uh the plees Taurus Cloud there are good and bad in there there’s a whole history some are not from there uh and um so they have this U um reality of the
Different agendas so they they know that the universe is like a giant being okay and we’re all family in here and many of them recognize that there was something going on here um in our in our world that was causing Rift in the time space continum literally so it attracted a lot
Of attention to this planet and for many we were far out there they didn’t involved but a lot of information went out and the councils recently have gotten really strongly aligned to clean up the situation the Earth toe uh the Earth is at the edge of the Galaxy it’s
It’s having problems and this was seen as the Nexus point for a very negative thing that was happening so they all became aligned to um to clean up the situation and it’s been happening behind the scenes hidden to mankind military actions and there is uh various uh councils they have years many millions
Of years I won’t even go into how many and who knows right right but they were hybridizing races and having Wars over genetics wow and these are some of the fifth and sixth dimensional beings that aren’t physical because they would create a planet and a race and then they
Would leave that Dimension and come down and have an experience in the physical body because you can grow in your Ascension to higher Worlds by serving on the lower Dimensions right so why would anyone want to come here because they can help this planet go through this difficult time and so there’s various
Groups they all have different ideas and I talked to the security Chief Alana I said why don’t you just take us all up I mean I I’m sick and tired of so and so saying this person’s fake I know they’re real I have lots of things and I don’t
Rush to judgment I have a lot of discernment with 66 years of experience and I can counteract I can I can pause and wait and know that both are right but obviously some of them have different perceptions and he said he said look each Federation has an agenda
Each planet in that Federation has agenda and the individual talking to an earth human has an agenda and the Earth human has their apperceptions that’s right so even a physical free will it’s a it’s a it’s it’s it’s a hell of a thing it’s a great thing but it makes
Things complicated you know nuanced they do have rules of engagement of what they’re allowed to do and not do mostly the that don’t look like us are mostly here for scientific purposes and behind the scenes occasionally they get seen they’re slowly leaking out the bizarre looking other aspects of different races
That freak people out would cause you to believe that they’re you know have hostile intentions and some of them do but for the most part uh we’re in a big stage of cleanup so I’ll just say that everything is under the command of God and that’s the Supreme infinite
Intelligence with without name and form beyond all name and form yet within all name and form in all dimensions in all times and spaces and anything that you can possibly imagine um already is was and will be that’s what Alex call you’re a good friend of mine we have the same
View um we call it the isness and another very famous contacte who’s a very close friend of mine and who we uh are really resonant is a guy named JJ herac and I know JJ’s coming on my show next week wow I love him and Desiree I’m I’m
Friends with them I every time I see them we talk and and finally I said are you guys free in December and they said yes so they’re coming on uh they’re gonna come on next week I love doctors JJ and do you have his phone number uh I
I well no I can check my emails it might be it’s in there it’s okay yeah I’m gonna reach out to him too I I just saw him in Las Vegas anyway so but him and I uh really have a lot of thing he’s a Messianic Jew he understands uh the
Christ princip beyond the the idea of this religious uh right deception so that’s for me the spiritual nature and uh understanding that um there’s a dimensional hierarchy and uh that they’re all 90% 99.9% are all intending for us to move forward in a positive way they have different views in terms of intervention
The galactic Confederation of light of our system and I’ll explain this hierarchy to you is comprised of 601 worlds and 51 solar systems wow includes Arcturus Sirius A and B Alpha centor A and B um you know Earth wolf 30 there’s 6 51 solar systems I don’t know all the names but
Um there is the queen of Venus is based on her lifetimes of service this is not genetic and they they have a a specific aspect of their culture that’s related to the bees yeah they were unwillingly without their permission hybridized with the bees they’re not insectoid they look
Just like us and it’s a complex subject but the queen of Venus is established and her position comes up every three years for Renewal she was established the current Queen in 2012 was established and because of her long lifetime of Association and being on the Earth she’s very uh understands
The world’s situation I believe her lifetimes of service to humanity have given her that position and that’s who I speak with through my friend Raymond Keller who she took him to Venus before she became the queen that’s all chronicled in his books but she’s the head of the Venus uh uh hierarchy and
They have a a region of Venus who is an ascended master who if there’s any difficulties or questions he makes he he says something and they pretty much follow that now we have a solar Council and in the third and fourth uh Dimension the the the head of the solar
Council is the queen of Venus and because of the Earth’s importance at this point in time she’s also the would call it the head or it’s a council it’s not you know they’re all working towards love and light and and uh establishing the protocol and without violating human
Free Will in the transference to the new Earth so there’s specific rules on that but she’s ahead of that confederation so that’s a pretty high level of U of contact yeah and they keeps a lot of things from me that I’m not supposed to know I’m focusing on uh
The message of Hope and peace and to share with people everything you’re hearing about the bad guys is pretty much done uh we’re going to see some huge changes um a lot of announcements will be made and mainstream media is going to have to uh drop the curtain and um a lot
Of people that are dead and being played by robots or people in rubber wearing masks will be revealed very soon and um you know I’m gonna say Trump is one of them oh G to trigger a lot of people but you you can you’ll find out soon enough
Is he is is he a robot or is he uh they got a bunch of them they got yeah sure they probably had clones for a while and then then sense I’ll show you the robot one if you want to ask some questions in the
Meantime or just comment on Stu yeah I I I have some questions you know like it’s because when I look out and I see when I just when I when I study the planet Mars and study the planet Venus you know it’s like I I always I’m always struck by
It’s C they’re so close to Earth both those planets um and Mars you can see you can literally see the scars on on the on the Topography of the planet and and I’m like how do people see Mars and not know that this was once an inhabited land you know and also
Venus you know when we when when they got the the satellites to Venus they said wow they they thought it was going to be you know um much more like Earth than it is you know obviously it’s you know the the the it’s very hot you know
We know we know about the the clouds um and the temperature and so not as hot as you think no one of that there’s there’s a surprise NASA’s lie never a straight answer is what Fred Bell told me that in 1970 three when I met him he said you
Worked at Nasa and he goes yeah not a straight A not a uh um single straight answer I bet yeah yeah straight can you maybe you can and this is total my curiosity maybe it’s a little off um the subject but but you know so when he when you’re when he when
Raymond was in Venus was it was was he in the clouds because I was like there’s probably life on Venus right now it’s just in the clouds you know what I mean why would you think it has to be on the ground just because we live on the
Ground I it was just like a a thought that I’ve had so often and also they do have floating cities we’re going to have them it’s going to be a big part of the new Earth they already we have we already have a floating city above the GOI desert that’s called Shambala the
Greater shambal the Lesser used to be in the Himalayas but due to the Earth changes coming it’s been moved to South America uh and there’s a a labyrinth connected down there around the area beneath the mountain sahama in Bolivia and beneath Lake tiaka the minor there’s
A a conclave there and all around the Earth are inner earth civilizations from our ancient history who are there and they’re coming forward now Michael Sol’s work uh with a guy named JP they’re disclosing the secret places of the lion where the ancient repositories are kept uh in this book series the Transylvania
Sunrise series um cool they talk about the inner earth and the in ality but um I’ll just say that um a lot of things are coming forward on that level I I I love everything I wrote you know and I and I love how how Frank they are about
You know the the the the great Veil that’s been and and this is definitely part of my mission you know and I’m outspoken about it and you know the truth can be upsetting to people um say the least right to put it mildly um but
But you know some some some of us feel now look there’s you I’m not saying that you need to be slapping people in the face with the truth but the truth does need to come out um and and people with Integrity are going to bring it out whether whether some other people are
Ready to hear it or not because that’s the only way this world is going to you know reach a kind of the Harmony and the balance and the heaven that the religions have convinced people is uh you know far off in another dimension I believe it can be right here and that it
Was always supposed to be right here you know but we’ve been bamboozled into this you know crazy way of material nonsense thinking so absolutely I you know I really love the the answers that the that the venutian give you and everything that I’ve read and seen and
Heard but let’s let me I would love to for you to show your your website and some of your things well why let you just share real quick here um you know this is my website and so like this is my Summer Conference at I’d like to
Introduce people to this uh this is my big event every year the largest uh spiritual Gathering or or actually any Gathering that I know in Mount Shasta uh for the last 10 years I have 250 to 400 people at my conference and when you click on that B on the homepage it takes
You to a whole another page and you can learn about it and uh so I talk about it uh in there so the other thing I wanted to to share with you uh here is um I want to go back to the main site real quick but I have a free uh newsletter
You can sign up and you can get information and uh and you can get notices and discounts and then I also have an inner circle where you get the copy of the book with all the recordings and all the messages in one spot as well
A bunch of other stuff but I wanted to show you um Raymond’s books because this brother and you know I sell his books the money goes to him for the most part I get a small Fe but um this is not you know it’s not really a I won’t say it’s
A big uh money maker for for me but I’m going to show the books here um and um there’s a lot of other Technologies you can check this out here plans taught us about pyramids and lasers and sound and light and color and all this so we have
A credible set three books for 50 um uh any uh six books for 120 any nine books books for 150 plus shipping uh this is about his time travel experience this is the Venus rising book The the first book is uh where did it go this one uh so the Venus rising book
Is incredible uh this book was written by h a woman from Venus and I guess I’ll I would like to just uh encourage people to get this Fred Bell’s book this is about Valiant Thor’s meeting this is about the government cover up this will tell you all the lies that make you
Think Venus is a hot steaming cauldron you know I mean if it is why did they send more uh satellites there than anywhere else on the planet right and the solar system most of them went to Venus they’re cloaked um you know like in the dark side of the moon
The opening of Transformers you know something just swallowed the satellite that’s happened on Venus numerous times and they are our Guardian they own the moon the venetians are are are Guardians and the Earth it’s getting ready to be transferred to earth when we join the galactic Confederation I think that’s
Farther away than we yeah some people might wish or dream but mankind has to show that he’s um ready to be responsible yeah yeah to have peace on Earth and to not stop killing other life on the planet with all of our technology stop polluting the planet and stop and
Creating an you know a more equal Society yeah so so I’m going to oops I better take this out here and I’m G to stop my share real quick and I’m going show you the two venutian this is fun we’ll show you they they like to wear a
Red beret when they’re on an official me message okay okay so I’m G to share uh this final image here and so the promis r.net folks check it out and then you can uh look at the products I have an incredible special on uh the uh tickets
Right now you get five days camping and a 4 Day event and all the speakers there’s some uh there’s one in particular quite famous that I can’t um talk about he they don’t want to be known until sooner but um this this is a great image here can you see those two
Women yes yes okay the one on the left is a blonde woman born in 1902 in the United States her name is Annabelle Krebs and she uh was a really well yeah well she she served with this woman in India in a place called hardiwar lman Jula and rishikes very close cities in
The high Himalayan mountains or the gateway to the upper mountains there where the Masters have their esoteric uh teachings and the you know the the monks are you know hundreds of years old so um this woman on on the right first was serving in India and in
1927 she was uh acting as a guide for the East India Company oh that’s kind of like the CIA of the day yeah they were they were the ones that started the heroin Addiction in China and they were the ones that you know destroyed China so they could get
The gunpowder and you know the colonialism major uh military guy in charge back down after a two- week Journey while they were up there and They Came Upon a beggar on the road and the beggar said um oh please help me I I’m hurt I can’t move and I
Need some food and water and uh she goes oh we must stop and help this man he goes we’re not stopping you can hand him some water and give him some food but we are going she goes we have to help him you know he he can’t walk you know and
Um they said well if you help him we’re not paying you so she said Okay and she helped this guy nursed him down and um they got to the bottom after three days he said you have great compassion and he dematerialized them and they went to Venus she became a dual citizen went
Back to the Earth in service after becoming a dual citizen on Venus and the woman on the left you know was really a humanitarian and she was always helping the homeless and stuff and she decided that she would go into the andara Pradesh area in the high in the
Himalayas around lanou and hardware and all that um to um help the people during the Great Depression in the 30s so she goes over you know in her late 20s and she works alongside this woman now let’s fast forward to uh 200 um notice the red beret notice they
Have these are B pens these are solid gold B pendants and these women came to uh to visit cosmic ray after he wrote These two books the venutian call him the venutian historian and he had a previous his lifetime I won’t that’s pretty long story there’s another
Picture of me and the commander but they wouldn’t um I I wasn’t allowed to uh share that because someone found out who she was so uh let me let’s go forward a little bit and I’ll show you so uh these two women came down to visit cosmic ray
And one last time let’s look at their look at the light in their eyes mhm you know they knew they being photographed and um let’s see there’s a picture of the security Chief too but I don’t um share his face can’t be shown but it’s not a picture of his face but I
Do sometimes share it so this is the woman she was born on Venus so there’s a lot to unravel in terms of the technology so they do talk about the willing to help us in in life extension and this is just around the corner yeah
Just around the corner so to go back to what you said before there’s going to be a lot of um um Revelations that are going to be hard for people to swallow but it must be done because of the hydrogen cloud and solar warming not global warming but solar warming there’s
Oxygen now on Pluto because the ice caps are melting wow we’re going through a hydrogen Cloud it’s a natural phenomenon uh you know the temperature between the outer atmosphere of the Earth and the moon all the way out to Venus what is space temperature I think
I told you this I I forget did you tell me absolute zero absolute zero guess what it is now like one no like 20 10,000 degrees wow wow so we’re seeing the weather changes and this is affecting our outer ionosphere now what do you think happens
With the solar flare that is a natural occurrence you know I know the governments are trying to do some things but oh yeah the sun’s its own life yeah it’s it’s turbocharging it I mean I just don’t understand how people talk about climate without mentioning the Sun how
How do you measure the temperature of the earth and no one is factoring in the sun you know what I mean like this is to me that’s the biggest um indication that something is a Miss with the whole climate change agenda that’s being pushed the agenda is a is a control
Agenda to limit what you do to make you be an electric car there only be a few of they’re running out of lithium the cards are catching on fire it it’s not the way to go it’s not going to happen and despite what they say the governments are going broke on December
15 and by January 1 there will be no more government I hope it’s going to revert to the people the money is in control of the good guys and uh enough people are dying that even the uh deep state of China everyone was going to turn the money of the world over to
China and we were going to go into a Communist Regime where organ Harvest organ you know let’s just let’s not talk about the negativity because it’s not going to happen they’re promoting it the digital currency which they would control we can have a digital currency under the alpha system but um right now
Um there’s it you know there’s people in the world that have no access to electricity or ATM or credit cards it’s ridiculous so um it’s not going to happen there is a plan being orchestrated by many much higher level contactees than myself who do not have a position in the public they’re working
In military in finance in uh artist in uh education in all aspects of society they are working behind the scenes and they’re working invisibly I think they come in sometimes when I’m writing and they they’re telepathically helping me out I have to have the knowledge to put it together
But some of my intructions to Raymond Books are definitely Guided by the hierarchy of light and the the the probably one of the best ones is the Gospel of Thomas that my friend wrote that they um um I was allowed to write about how that Tech how that gospel was written
Through a technology of the castric records and Raymond’s books were garnered from that so awes anyway thank you for letting me share a little bit you’re welcome my friend thank you for sharing you know look we’re we there’s there’s so many things to unpack so
We’re just going to have to have uh you know a series of talks because love it there’s so many things that we that we can dive into um and I I’m so grateful for you for your time for sharing you know your vast knowledge and and I know
We’ve only you know we could barely say we scratched the surface cuz I know how much is there and you know but but I want to give you a chance um before we be before we sign off to to share a message with everyone who stayed with us
So far you know um that that you feel they they whatever you feel like that that they they may need to hear right now something you know of either a mantra or or a gift um to the people who have stayed with us that they could take
With them into their lives um before we go well you know as a messenger I’ve kind of shared my my messages to uh explain about the U externalization of the reality of life within the Earth and those beings that we are affecting and why they’ve been
Afraid to come out and you know that stuff and then of course the message of the venutian and and their mission is to protect the Earth from herself to a certain extent um they also have uh other intentions to help us develop the late Powers within us and to become
Aware of the technologies that the elites are controlling us with so that we can just ignore them and I want to say you can ignore them right now and we’re going to hear very soon I wouldn’t pay your taxes early anyone because I feel by next year you know we’re all
Paying them now but um I feel by next year everything’s going to revert to a sales tax I think that we’re very close to things happening listen brother I’m so grateful for your time and your wisdom I appreciate you so much um this meeting was definitely meant to happen I
Look forward to doing it again we’ll do it again soon and I’ll be in touch and thank you for sharing so so much with me um but we still have much to talk about so I’ll be in touch and we’re gonna do it again soon hey um all right I want to
Thank you very much and uh give my phone number to JJ okay um and just tell him Rob wants you to call him and thank you very much and I send him much love okay I will I will make sure to relay the message all right brother thank you so
Much you take care bye bye
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