Had available to him at that time an enormous quantity of alchemical and mystical literature he uh Rose to literary distinction at a time when there was a very large output of books dealing upon the general themes of his interest a bright young man uh taking this material could certainly have
Compiled the work which he produced for this work is not exceptionally profound it is not impossibly deep or incredibly wise uh it’s real place in the literature of its time is determined almost entirely by its title therefore has if the word Christian words Christian Rosen CS had been left off this particular volume
Would have been only another remnant of early modern reform literature in favor of the Andre hypothesis there are certain other points that we might mention one of these is the relationship uh between Andre and bacon and here Mr weight really has a bad time it is obvious from the beginning that
Our English author is no bonian uh he regards the entire bonian hypothesis as completely and entirely ridiculous here again I sympathize with him but I don’t agree with him the reason I don’t agree with him is that certain definite links have been established these links Mr weight ignores or else did not know
Them and in either case uh they they they represent valid evidence that um there might be more to this phase of the subject than he is willing to admit now the hypothesis that Lord bacon might have been the founder of the rosac crucian society is at the outset not particularly
Attractive uh in the first place uh the and Shakespeare controversy has caused a powerful alignment of opinions and of course most of the scholarly opinion is on the side of Willie Shakespeare although I see that this is now being affected by the popular purse uh The Shakespearean museum at Stratford
On aen is now asking for 250,000 uh to enlarge premises and facilities and make way for a large tourist trade uh several uh individuals who might have something to do with finding the 250,000 have uh journeyed over to Stratford and taken a look around uh they have come back and their General
Opinion is that the Stratford museum is about the largest fraud of its size in the world that there is absolutely no evidence or proof in that museum that even one Relic is authentic and as to whether or not the building is the correct one this is also largely open to
Question and the general feeling is now that uh it is hardly even possible that the immortal B ever set foot in the Shakespeare house it’s not even certain that it was built at that time but no one seems to worry too much about it n naturally we may expect a considerable
Tempest in a teapot over this particular issue but in all probabilities practical considerations will prevail and the funds will be raised simply because whether the relics are any good or not people are perfectly willing to come and see them and pay moderately for the privilege of sitting
In Willie’s chair now it happens that this chair has already been sold twice and taken out of the country and it’s still there so you can uh try to solve these Mysteries they’re almost they’re almost as difficult to explain as the miraculous multiplication of the bones
Of saints which have a tendency to show up and one Saint I believe has already known to have had seven skulls this difficult situation seems also to apply to the Shakespeare dilemma we must also realize that young people have done rather well in their time young William Henry Island boy of
17 forged a complete Shakespearean play and the immortal Samuel Johnson got down on his knees and kissed the edge of the manuscript so youth does not necessarily deny precocity the um situation then involving the bonian hypothesis is largely colored by other matters and uh we we’re not too sure of
The ground on which We Stand actually there are many parallels between the so-called Adventures of our father CRC the mysterious Christian Rosen CZ of the chemical marriage and the somewhat better known Lord varum uh these parallels were however Advanced by the wrong people uh they were Advanced by
Enthusiasts uh they were Advanced by persons wearing the wrong School tie and things of that nature and as a result were generally discredited but whether they were Advanced by wise or foolish men the facts must stand on their own feet that there was a link between Andre
And Lord bacon seems to be part of our basic mystery so I might mention a little episode that some of you may remember but which others may not have come across in our writings back in 19267 and 8 when I was working on this large book which I did on
Symbolism word came to me that uh one of the oldest and most important Masonic lodges in England the mother kill kill winning Lodge of Scotland had a very rare portrait of Lord bacon as an old man of course his lordship is supposed to have died at
66 but this portrait was supposed to be a picture of him at much greater age the thought intrigued me and full of Youth and exuberance I wrote the mother kill winning Lodge through their secretary and asked if they had such a picture and if so they would be gracious enough to
Send me a copy of it uh they were gracious enough and uh shortly after the picture arrived the picture was that of an elderly bearded gentleman the long white beard and a black skull cap and underneath and around the picture was the inscription Johan Valentine Andre I thought perhaps they’d sent me
The wrong picture so I wrote back and asked them if this was the picture of bacon and they assured me that it was now what the mother kilwinning Lodge of Scotland might happen to know about this I’m not too sure but they seem to feel that they knew what they were
Sending me and uh such an illustrious body uh would not like to be passed off lightly another interesting point in relationship to this situation is found in the writings of John Burton who were published anonymously under the title of Democritus junor the work which he did was called the anatomy of
Melancholy and this as the name sounds was a most nostalgic volume which today would be a a good textbook for certain specialists in abnormal psychology but the book was full of all kinds of interesting notes and news and as one man who contributed so many books and manuscripts to the fer library in
Washington told me he said many of us believe that this was originally Lord’s bacon scrapbook but in any event it is accredited to a Mr Burton a very reverent gentleman of the Church of England on one page of this book uh there is a reference to Christian Rosen cro or the mysterious father
CRC after this is the usual Mark indicating a footnote and below is the footnote Johan Valentine Andre comma Lord verum period now this does not appear in all editions of the book however but it does appear in certain earlier editions the only work that we know that describes the tomb of Christian Rosen
Cro uh outside of the actual rosac crucian manifestos is a work on mathematical Magic by by a Dr Wilkins who was a member of the society uh which later became the Royal Society of England and which as fratt points out was inspired by bacon wil Wilkins in his book
Describes the tomb with the ever burning lamp in the ceiling and calls it the tomb of our illustrious Brother Francis Rosy cross because Francis was Bacon’s first name and and uh certainly Francis is not by any chance a form of Christian the manifesto says Christian Rosen CZ Wilkins presumably with no
Typographical error in mind calls him Francis Rosy cross there are numerous little odds and ends like this which Mr weits chooses to totally ignore and therefore I am not sure that he makes a a strong case to prove uh that the rosac crucian Enigma uh had no place in the life of Lord
Bacon also if we remember the manifestos Christian Rosen CS died uh over a hundred years before the mysterious opening of his tomb as this tomb was supposed to have been opened in the early years of the 17th century the mysterious founder had been dead quite a long while
Uh in the Dr Burton’s dear old book already referred to however there is the statement the founder of the rosy cross still living now this doesn’t quite fit in to uh the picture uh for he couldn’t be still living if the original text was correct there seems to be no doubt in
Anyone’s mind who really thinks this is Enigma through that uh a group of persons uh perhaps definitely agents of esoteric orders perhaps descendants uh through the troubadors and the Temple of ancient mystical associations did get together in the beginning of the 17th century and formed a fraternity of some kind
Uh it has been said of Lord bacon that he rang the bell that brought the wits together and there seems to be something of this nature involved in our controversy there were only certain men of this time if they had any reputation in letters at all who can be intimately
Associated with a project of this nature uh the uh actual texts of the society issued between 1614 and 1616 uh all of them are dated by their content even the chemical marriage is dated it is dated to a way of life to a point of view and this dating definitely
Coincides with the Protestant Reformation these works could only have come into existence after the rise of Lutheranism we must therefore suspect that these books issued from some Protestant background uh it would be almost incredible that they could have issued from any other background in as much as the very
Manifestos themselves indicate that the founder of the society brought back his knowledge and wisdom from the Arabs and from the Muslims uh which for most of Orthodox Europe would have been an unhappy background and not likely to cause confidence at that time we had to have some group of intellectual
Liberals also it is quite obvious from the text of the work that they centered around the concept of a universal Reformation of mankind they centered around the entire theory of the passing of an old way of life that a new world was coming into existence a world of new values new human
Relationships and that the F and confessio fraternitas were heralding in a great world change uh this world change was naturally part of the period of of which we are concerned for actually the opening years of the 17th century differentiate the medieval period from the modern world of his discovery of the blood the
Rise of the um philosophy of bacon and Renee decart
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