I didn’t know that you had Roland Martin beef uh neither did I what happened was I was on Roland Martin show about two or three times before that final visit that led to the altercation verbal altercation not physical but here was the point that this is really why Umar
Got mad upset no no no no from the EnV from six years ago and this is why he still got to bug up his ass is not a white person in America who has ever work to systematically eliminate the white privilege that they benefit from V your oppression lying you
Know million people in America Eugene oh oh we’re not going to go there we’re not I calling me a liar and you’re well it’s a fact that and so when Roland Martin did that I don’t think he properly anticipated or calculated the collateral damage but by
The end of the year he was off the television Boy by let me explain to y’all what happened here all right folks now I hate mess I hate mess I hate messy people um I hate when people lie things along those lines now you got these people out here who
Run their miles and they love uh mentioning my name they love you know talking about what we do on this show and I don’t really care about any of them and I’m talking about I don’t care about Tariq I don’t care about Boyce I don’t care about Vicky dillet I don’t
Care about uh that dude Phillip I don’t care about black Authority I don’t care about I’m like go do what y’all do I don’t care about Umar Johnson the same way I don’t care go do what y’all do I don’t follow them I don’t listen to them
I don’t track them I really don’t care what they have to say about anything go do what y’all want to do we over here doing what we do doing the job that we’re supposed to be doing and so I just don’t get involved in all that back and forth silly nonsensical
Mess but when you lie when you go on other folk platform and you lie and just makeup stuff then I’m like I got to go ahead and say something so um when I was on vacation uh somebody hit me up and they said that um they said that uh uh
Omar Johnson uh went on Joe button’s podcast and and said a few things about me about his appearance on t one it was 6 years ago 6 years ago so U and so here’s the setup Omar G on The Breakfast Club and it was a contentious appearance they talked about his
Credentials his school all kind of stuff like that so I saw all the back and forth my staff saw all the back and forth so I was like go ahead and book them bring them on the show okay that’s what happened so he comes on the show uh
He had been on the show three previous times same format panel no different this time two of the panelists took exception what Omar had to say and at one point during the show Omar was responding to Eugene Craig conservative called him a I slam my hand down and say I don’t allow that
Language or any racial epat on my show and so that’s really why he was upset and so he went on and trashing me trashing us oh we attacked him him we ambushed him it was a setup and then he went on claiming oh that when the show got canceled that he that that
Appearance was the reason why the show got cancelled all lies okay so this all the crap he said before whatever so now he goes on Joe button’s podcast and now he now he got new lies he telling all right so we’re going to do this here first so
When he got invited he was told with the the topic was he was told everything involved with it we even SE a press release out about the subject matter so this notion that oh I got Ambush is stupid cuz Ambush means that I didn’t I didn’t see any of this coming I didn’t
Know what was coming when we actually laid out what this topic was actually about so to refresh people this is literally how the beginning of that segment went 6 years ago on TV1 it’s just how the beginning went go ahead um um it was amazing looking this
Whole reaction I mean I’m sitting here uh you know again people asking all kind of questions things are blowing up uh and so many people jumped on saying he’s not a real doctor okay uh where did you graduate from and you got your PhD MH my undergraduate education was from
Millersville University uh three degrees political science psychology Masters in school psychology subsequent to that Pennsylvania certification as a school psychologist which I’ve been for almost 20 years after that I got my educational leadership master’s degree and principal certificate from Lehi University in Bethlehem Pennsylvania and I earned my doctorate degree from the Philadelphia
College of Osteopathic Medicine American Psychological Association approved program one of the top psychology training programs on the East Coast six degrees in all and anyone can lift up a telephone and call and verify those degrees so when when you see folks uh who who who who question uh your degree
Is your response it’s because my narrative is a whole lot different from the average mainstream black scholar I don’t parrot The Narrative that the American social order wants black Scholars to parot I tell the truth I don’t scratch unless I itch and I don’t dance unless I like the music and
Because okay so you saw that that’s literally how it all began okay and a little bit later I’m going to show you when things went sideways uh and this is really why he got upset so he goes on Joe button’s podcast was dropped last month and Joe asked him about this so-called
Beef nothing like that I didn’t know that you had Roland Martin beef uh neither did I what happened was I was on Roland Martin show about two or three times before that final visit that led to the altercation verbal altercation not physical it was uh 2016 I had just
Done The Breakfast Club a week prior and Roland Martin’s people contacted me to come back again this was either my third or fourth visit to news one now so I had been on the show before we already knew each other never had a negative cordial always got it this time was
Different because when I got there as I waited in the dressing room he came out the restro and he didn’t speak he walked right by me so something saids something’s up today today going to be a little different because why would he walk by you and not speak so when we
Finally got involved in the conversation I kind of realized what was going on I think he was a little jealous of The Breakfast Club thing that interview went viral all of them go viral but that one went viral and at that time I guess he
Wanted to take some of the air out of my balloon so he questioned my credentials my blood relationship to The Honorable Frederick Douglas a couple other things and I think he had set up his panel in such a way that I think they were supposed to intellectually Massacre me
Which nobody on the planet Earth can do that get and so they ended up getting intellectually Mass and that was the end of it but I didn’t appreciate what he did was a move I’ve been on your show plenty of times you know I’m driving down here from Philadelphia
Taking time out of my busy schedule I could be doing other things and you use that time to try to insult me but it backfired on him and I think that’s partly the reason why the show was canceled by the end of the year because I’m very popular among black folks U
Probably the most popular black scholar in modern history when it comes to mainstream black America even though my views are considered rather controversial and so when Roland Martin did that I don’t think he properly anticipated or calculated the collateral damage but by the end of the year he was off the
Television all right y’all when I do the show I’m focused on the show a lot of times I don’t even speak to the guest a lot of times I don’t speak to the staff when I’m locked on the show boom I’m going for makeup down to the studio so Omar you ain’t that
Special a lot of happens here a guest can be sitting in the chair I’m coming in I’m getting stuff I’m doing whatever I don’t have I’m not sitting here talking to people speaking to people cuz I’m trying to focus on getting on the show now that hurts your little ego but
That’s just a fact now press play right by me so something says something’s up today today going to be a little different because why would he walk by you and not speak so when we finally got involved in the conversation I kind of realized what was going on I
Think he was a little jealous of The Breakfast Club thing that interview went viral all of them go viral but that one went viral and at that time I guess he wanted to take some of the air out of my balloon so he questioned my credentials my
Omar I literally was hosting a daily Morning Show on TV1 I was with the time Jo a Morning Show 3 days a week why would I be jealous of you like really why would I be jealous of you I’ve gone viral numerous times I don’t get off about going viral cuz that means
Nothing so why would I remotely be jealous of you see this is the new lie cuz he hadn’t used that one before so now that’s the new lie he’s trying to spin dude I you mean nothing to me like literally I’m not jealous of Hell anybody in
Media why would I be jealous of somebody not in media I was speaking to Millions every day 3 days a week on time J Morning Show you think I’m jealous cuz you went on The Breakfast Club press BL blood relationship to The Honorable Frederick Douglas a couple other things
And I think he has set up his panel in such a way that so Umar says oh uh he questioned all these things here’s the problem Umar I don’t delete emails I have receipts go to my iPad July 6 2017 this is the actual email I sent an
Email to the booker the executive producer as well as the senior producer on the show hey Dr Umar Johnson book him on the show to discuss black Twitter lighting him up about his recent Breakfast Club interview the booker Shandra Hughes copy will reach out now that’s the ual email why what did I
Actually say in the video when he came on people were talking about your appearance and they were asking all these questions and they were questioning your credentials oh I’m sorry y’all might think that’s not true okay but go back and actually watch the clip I actually said it so you see the
Correspond oh Danel was like oh my goodness uh he said his panel up y’all let me explain something to y’all the panel don’t know who coming on the show how about this here uh today’s Matt uh Michael Kelly have have y’all ever ever uh were set up to say hey this
Person is coming on so I need y’all to do this when this person comes on no I wouldn’t do it people don’t tell me what to say no no no no but has it ever happened not now I don’t know what a panel is going to say all three of
Y’all can agree matter of fact if I’m if I correct me and Michael got into it when he questioned one of them Byron Donald’s white wife oh we got into the number I don’t but the point I’m making I I don’t I don’t even ask listen to me
Clearly y’all now go back to go keep it on the panel I need people to understand I don’t even ask the panelists what they think and let me explain to y’all why because when I was on CNN they used to assume they knew what I was going to say
When I was on CNN they would literally sit there and oh so and so’s going to say this when I filled in for Campbell Brown we were discussing Michael Vic and if he served his time she to come back to the NFL and uh there was what’s what
What what’s uh what’s Gloria all what’s her daughter name Gloria all all Red’s daughter she attorney Lisa Bloom Lisa Bloom So Lisa Bloom was a Big Time Peter person we’re sitting there and I’m I’m feeling Kimel Brown and and and the senior producer goes oh we know what
Lisa Lisa thinks and I said has anybody asked her Roland we know she’s going to be against Michael Vick coming back I was like has anybody asked her so the scene producer got pissed off at me I turned to the book of Tara I said Tara can you call Lisa and just
Ask where she stands on this she says she comes back folks we have a problem Lisa says that if he serves his time he should be able to come back I go see y’all always assume even know what I think I said but you don’t
So I don’t ask a panelist we don’t set any panelists up they can take any position they want to and they actually did so Umar you’re lying again now remember y’all he actually talked about oh my goodness it was a it was it was a
Setup it was it was how got set up remember all that now keep playing it cuz y’all going to hear it watch this I think they were supposed to intellectually Massacre me which nobody on the planet Earth can do that and so they ended up getting intellect
Massacred and that was the end of it but I didn’t appreciate what he did was a move stop right there your show plenty stop right there here oh oh I appreciate what he did now you hear Melissa Ford say Blindside he wasn’t blindsided now he said that lie before
He Ambush oh I was ambushed really go back to my iPad y’all see this hi hi Susan and Rolland here’s a copy of today’s release let me know your thoughts and thanks this is a press release the press release says uh controversial psychologist Dr Umar Johnson thinks inter racial
Marriage negates efforts of black men dedicated Racial equality so the press release list in here in terms of uh what was talked about we told him the topic beforehand he knew the topic beforehand it was in the show teas it was in the show intro it was in the segment intro so not
Blindsided not ambushed folk just disagree but here was the point that this is really why Umar got mad upset no no no no from the interview from six years ago and this is why he still got to bug up his ass I murder half based on what so the
Idea that somehow a white person can’t understand our struggle I could care less what they understand I’m asking you what have they done systematically to improve the opportunities of white fol he did not tell me that yes you did tell did not tell me that you’re going to
Tell me that guys like Tim Wise and Reverend Wallace don’t understand Amica they don’t understand race Amica articulates racism what has he done to people that understand race in America in white people understand race in America there’s not a white person there’s not a white person in America
Who has ever worked to systematically eliminate the white privilege that they benefit from V your oppression lying you know 19 million people in America so oh oh we’re not going to go there we’re not I calling me a liar and you’re a CO well it’s a fact that you’re L it’s a fact
That you’re it’s a fact that understand to say that that everybody one second several things I don’t allow I don’t allow the nword I don’t allow we can talk to one another and disagree but I do not use racial epat against black that’s fine
But he called me no no no no Lang racial epat will not be used on this show and that’s fine by anybody but how we talk to each other you can say whatever you want but no racial otat will be used on this show about Black people to black
People Eugene your question so come on from your Paradigm from your perspective that’s really why he has an attitude that’s why he’s running around mad and upset because I checked him on that one oh well he called me a lie okay fine call a lie back but you’re not going to
Use racial epitet but here is the biggest lie Omar Johnson told go ahead massacred and that was the end of it but I didn’t appreciate what he did was a move I’ve been on your show plenty of times you know I’m driving down here from Philadelphia taking time
Out of my busy schedule I could be doing other things and you use that time to try to insult me but it backfired on him and I think that’s partly the reason why show was canceled by the end of the year because I’m very popular among black folks I’m probably the most popular
Black scholar in modern history his when it comes to mainstream Black America even though my views are considered rather controversial and so when Roland Martin did that I don’t think he properly anticipated or calculated the collateral damage but by the end of the year he was off the television Boy
By let me explain to y’all what happened here I got word October that they were looking at I either canceling the show or reducing the show to three days a week or once a week so you know what I did I actually put in an offer the Takeover ownership
Of the show let me explain to you why because we had cable contracts we could not internally stream any of the shows digitally so I was watching Dish Nation on TV1 and I went wait a minute how is this nation on broadcast TV and we’re aing on TV one but they streaming
It online so I went to our affiliate people and they said oh that’s because we license we license this nation I said really so what you’re telling me is that if we license a show then we will only have the cable rights to that show and that’s it they said yes
I said well I got to work around cuz you got to remember they only aired news19 one time they never ever they never ever uh put it on uh VOD they didn’t reair so if you missed the show you didn’t tape it that was it now we used to sit here
And go Guerilla style and stream the show all the time even though legal told her twice to take it down that’s another story so I put a proposal in to say why don’t y’all allow me to take over ownership of the show I will then license the show back to
You and we’ll set up a deal where your salespeople handle the back end I was trying to come up with a way around the no streaming rule October goes by I submit the proposal to Alfred liins the CEO d’angela Proctor who was our SVP programming November goes by I’m sending
An email yo hey we going to meet we going to meet we going to meet finally December 9th December 7th one of those days Alfred calls me to a meeting Alfred liin the CEO I’m sitting here on the couch d’angela proor sitting right next to me and Alfred Liggins the
CEO tells me that he’s canceling news one now because in 2018 he was refinancing the debt of the company and he was flashing cost across the board because if they did not refinance the debt of of urban one he would be paying a much higher interest rate on the
Debt that’s why it was cancelled even that nonsensical BS press release they said put out oh it got canceled because of low ratings that was a lie Alfred ligin d’angela proor sitting in the meeting and that’s exactly what he told me that’s why the show was cancelled now there’s a thing called
Ratings and the ra waiting ratings work is it’s really an algorithm and so every let me be clear every black person watching television doesn’t count in a rating let me say it again so Omar you make think you smart You Don’t Know Jack about neelson or TV ratings you know
Nothing oh I got a big old audience no it’s an algorithm and so if you look at the number of black people who are in a neelon family and the number of those black people who likely watch TV one we will sometimes estimate as probably seven to 12 black people and y’all might
Be saying that’s crazy no it’s not because remember they’re tracking what people are watching all the time folks ain’t watching us all the time so we weed to always joke if a if one of those black families went to the bathroom or to ran an errand or went to work early
Man our ratings would drop because you’re only sampling a ex handful of people so how do we know those things well it’s because every single day they will send out ratings reports they would they would literally send out uh these various reports showing us uh exactly what took place how do I know
That go to my email this is the report right here these are daily ratings you’ll see they would show us right here we cross comparison to our competitors TV1 bet bounce Centric own Bravo lifetime mtv2 oxygen up VH1 WE tv it will show you the household 25 2554 household ratings
Median age all that sort of stuff but then they will also inside of here show you the overnight reports and in the overnight reports you see this is the summary you see Monday overnight grid this is the overnight grid this right here is the Monday Monday quarter hours
This is TV1 and competitive net ranker meaning on that day where did we rank among all of the shows hm this right here is the most important thing that is is the Monday quarter hours as you can see okay you will see in the morning shows we ran Ricky Smiley Show then
There’s news one now this is the day that Umar was on you see this here okay we started the show out with A4 0.14 went up to a 018 and went to a 02222 by the time we closed so it then shows you household it shows you all this sort of
Stuff now these are the ratings okay that was an excellent day for us okay but then when you Al then when you go into the ratings you all of a sudden go to other days and guess what so let’s write right here this is July 24th
Couple of weeks later all of a sudden you pull the overnight ratings up and then you look at the overnight ratings as they as they as they uh come up they hit money4 hours and guess what 0.15.1 7.16 .16 okay again a decent day some days it was lower some days it was
Higher and when I look at uh August 16th and I go into these ratings right here uh when I look at uh right there okay this was a Monday August 15th guess what we had a pretty good day that day which is again it was one of those things
Where okay what’s happening on that day look at that a16 0.15.1 16.16 okay you look at those numbers then you go to again you go to October 18th uh September 27th and the reason I’m doing this y’all is because I’m I’m I want you to show see cuz you need to
See y’all never get to see this kind of stuff you never actually get to see how the sausage is made huh on this day .1 uh 13 4.16.18 .19 I mean we got we we higher higher as the show uh continue on and on and on that’s what happens and so what happens
Your ratings go up your ratings Go Down based upon what happens on that day what a person is doing you don’t know what the audience is doing so they’re going to tune in they’re going to tune out in matters this right here you see .1 3.14
.12 .12 so we can show oh right there you see how we went up right there1 16.15 these things happen all the time the reality is this y’all there are multiple days between when Umar came on and when the show was over but we met or
Exceed the ratings when he was on so Umar I know this hurts your fragile ego but you literally had nothing zero absolutely zero to do with the show getting cancelled we literally moved on the next day you not that important and I know that messes with your ego but it it’s
True if you actually think you of the reason why the show ended when Alfred liin said Point Blank our show was a $5 million nut right there on the ex Excel spreadsheet and it was easier to cut $5 million out of the budget to meet his financial Target and that’s why the show
Got cancelled so here’s the whole deal stop lying stop running around with your big ego and making stuff up go build your school go teach the students keep running your mouth on social media go give speeches what you’re not going to do is keep lying about what happened on
The show cuz everything that you say said was a Flatout lie Umar it was a lie then and it’s a lie Now Matt the reason I decided to take the time to do this is because it’s clear that what we have going on we got
People who love to just uh just make up stuff and I hate dealing with mess but the problem I have is this here and I’ve always said this here and when I went on The Breakfast Club I said this here to Charlamagne DJ Envy and Angela ye I have great respect for the
Microphone because what I understand is that what comes out of your mouth and comes through this microphone then goes to the public and the public can choose to believe it or not believe it and it’s in it’s incumbent upon anybody who has a microphone to have respect and reverence
For the microphone and not make up you a lawyer there are sanctions if a lawyer goes into a courtroom and make stuff up unfortunately in media nothing happens to most people cuz the LIE gets told and folks justes run with it well and beyond that unfortunately
That’s a lot of times what people want to see is they want to see division they want to see drama they want to see you know an exacerbation of a beef if you’ll call it that um I don’t really have anything to to add Beyond I mean of
Course any person is going to naturally feel like they need to defend themselves as somebody saying something dis Hest or is mischaracterizing the truth of what happened I would just say that you know hopefully this is the last time you have to address this and the last time it is
Address because we have much bigger fish to fry as a black community than issues like this uh and I’m glad that you were able to show what truthfully happened as it relates to booking and all of that but beyond that I mean we have way bigger issues democracy taken from us
Right now and um we need to not focus on such matters so I’m glad you did what you needed to do but I think it’s time to move on oh first of all I mean I’m the reason I’m not I don’t need to address it again Kelly because one once
You lay it out and you show the emails and you show what’s factual then that’s it but what I need our people to understand is don’t get caught up in somebody else’s narcissistic ego and gossip and that to me is what often times to happen where folk don’t want to
Deal with reality but they want to see the fight and I got some people and and and that’s to me is the fundamental problem that we often see and I’m just and for me you know what if you lie we we just going to tell the truth and just call it the
Liars what I appreciate about what you did Rand excuse me is that you you came with receipts that we already knew what was going to happen but what I appreciate is the fact that what you do not let happen is let sound bites replace truth right and that needs
To be brought back in journalism in general meaning people need to really respect true journalism and and not go for sound bites and not just go for people who they find appealing and marketable whatever I personally believe that 2024 will be the year of receipts I think
2024 will be the year of standing ons business because it’s only been 5 days and it’s just coming out the woodwork of things and and people just not letting lies stand not letting reputations get jeopardized because somebody was in their feelings this one day um and I
Have a lot of respect for you for that um obviously this is your show and you’re going to say whatever but I definitely just wanted to put that out there regarding that now regarding Umar Johnson specifically I always say this about him that he is a broken clock and that he is
Right twice a day this was neither of those times you know Michael when after this a lot of his people on my social media page sending me emails and man you need to be a part too Omar saying the same thing even was some people in the
Chat room right now I say it then and I say now Umar Johnson would never be on my show again why because I’m not entertaining narcissistic ego egom manical folks when you lie like he has done for six years why would I bring you back on my show
Why and he’s right there were no issues beforehand but he was angry at the two of the panelists disagreed with him dude it happens everybody not going to agree with you it happens and so the bottom line is and you not Beyond getting questioned but to the people out there
Who who said man you need to bring them on y’all need to and I this also kills me m when they say no man we shouldn’t have two black men fighting they should be working together no no go do what you do you’re not in my Lane go do what you
Do you can go do what you do and help black people I can go do what I do but what I don’t have to do is bring you back on the platform and deal with more foolishness is completely unnecessary and it ain’t going to happen so let me address it like this because
I’m not going to get involved in the back and forth um I know you Roland for years I’ve known Umar for years I actually met Umar before I met you Roland I met Umar back in 2012 here in Detroit um I’ve worked with Umar in the past in various capacities had him on
The African history Network show a number of times uh I think about two years ago we were both on Tammy Mack show on the fox old TV network with um crazy ass Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson so um you know if it’s if it’s a situation where um and this is something my
Teachers taught me Professor James small Dr Linda Jeff and Professor kabah W the common a for me personally if it’s a situation where I have a disagreement with somebody something like that if it’s Umar or somebody else you know I’m going to pick up the phone and call them
I totally understand what you’re doing Roland cuz it’s your show and the first uh incident happened on your show so I’m not criticizing that um but you may this is just a suggestion not saying you have to do it you may at some point try to
Reach out to Umar not to bring it back on the show but just to have a conversation no need because what one but one thing I one thing I do agree with is that to have two brothers like this and Dr Cleo Manago made this point
As as well I and it may have been you and Omar Omar or you and somebody else to have and this is not criticism either one of you but to have two brothers that have a following and have stature uh have a public disagreement whether it’s whether not taking s but
Whether it’s misunderstood or whether somebody’s misstating something whatever it is it’s not healthy for the community in general that’s my point actually here’s what I here’s what I believe is healthy for the community I believe that what is healthy for the community is when somebody lie publicly they be corrected
Publicly now he’s had six years not to lie he’s lied for six years so and here’s the other deal I ain’t blocked Umar oh he blocked me so I I don’t deal with the little petulant stuff no I don’t make that phone here’s why I don’t
Make that phone call reason I don’t make that phone call because it’s completely unnecessary it’s unnecessary again because a person shows their character by how they respond he literally threw a fit I mean numerous post trashing me and the show calling us all kinds of names
You name it I’m talking about I mean his people were on my page for a year after that I still get people man you did um wrong why because we had them on the show and had them answer questions but when your ego is so utterly ridiculous and that you
Lie sorry I mean I’m just I mean what I don’t tolerate are massive liars and again let me be perfectly clear and I’ve said this about all these other people I don’t they can go do whatever they want to do all of them Tariq Boyce Phillip
Umar Vicki all them PE they can go do whatever they want to do I don’t need to go on their shows I don’t need to to talk to him I don’t need to have him on here we’re going to keep doing the work but I’ve said this perfectly clear and I
And Matt’s right I I’m only addressing this because it came up on the Joe Button podcast and I didn’t have to dedicate this much time but the reason I’m dedicating this much time because what I need our people to understand is that you judge a person by their
Character I showed you the receipts he’s flat out lying now he wants to keep lying knock yourself out but what cannot happen What will not happen is if somebody spread lies and think they’re not going to get corrected simple as that also U but also black people aren’t a
Monolith like you’ve had sh people on your show who are conservative you’ve had people on your show who are liberal and you disagree with them just as much as anybody else respectfully and I remember that clip clearly because Eugene is a friend of mine we both went to buoy State together
And while we did not always get along because of our political views by and large the respect has always been there because we are not monolithic and we can come together and have discussion and I’m assuming that that was the hope for that particular show with the panel
Yourself and Dr Johnson and people are going to disagree that’s fine I mean I got no problem with disagreement right and and but moreover you were respectful in that disagreement when Dr Johnson and I use that term loosely called Eugene a that’s where the deor went out the
Window yep like he bought into that he he initiated the disrespect by calling someone outside their name whether you believe that or not well and again you could you you could you could disagree any way you want to I’m not going to lie BR your otat but the fact I’m going to
Say this this I think this this is finally this is important somebody somebody said in the chat Roland uh you you’re back and forth Umar was had some of the highest uh was one of the most viewed on YouTube let me explain something to y’all I don’t do
Clickbait now let me explain to you what that means there have been numerous opportunities for me to do what I consider to be messy discussions that are going to generate lots of views I’ve said no by the way the Umar back and forth when from that show six years
Ago that’s not the most viewed video we’ve ever had in fact y’all want to know what’s the actually the most viewed if y’all want to understand the importance of topics the most viewed segment I’ve ever had was when cancer doctor hadah Nicole green I put her on t television for her
F first TV appearance that interview with her has exceeded 15 million views double the number of people who watch the Umar interview why do I say that we were talking about curing cancer we were showcasing a brilliant black woman who has come up with a way to get rid of
Cancer folks that’s called impact and what I’ve done I’ve invited her to numerous opportunities to meet with people to meet with billionaires to meet with others to help her raise the $30 million for for her foundation that she’s trying to raise the money because she doesn’t want to take money from
Pharmaceuticals I’m saying that because what I need people watching to understand is we need to get out of and matter of fact somebody tweeted this and I loved I loved loved loved this comment that I read the other day and it really was they were talking about
Matter of fact I think this person was talking about that podcast interview uh and the and and the person said this here and I think it nailed it and what she said was she said I I she said I enjoy conversations about Evolution history art education
What may what may affect me within the next 5 years on an interpersonal level pequs my curiosity but all this that’s for engagement not Enlightenment nope all of this stuff that’s for engagement and not Enlightenment our goal with this show and stuff that we do yes we have fun
Yeah we joke I know it’s Cap’s anniversary today and I would play the video of them dropping canes yeah we love having the fun back and forth but that’s the whole point folks it is about Enlightenment it’s about teaching it’s about understanding when we as black people get so locked into
Gossip and fighting back and forth and all this sort of stuff what do we gain from that seriously what do we gain from it what do we gain when the folks are going back and forth in a fight what do we actually gain from it I need our people to understand in
2024 Matt talked about it there are major issues on the table and it’s a lot of stuff that that serious and you know what I don’t believe in being serious all the time I believe in laughing and having fun and doing light-hearted segments but if there’s one thing that television has always
Loved that radio is always loved as social media is always loved they love when black people are spending so much time on gossip and mess that we’re not paying attention to all the other real stuff that’s happening and if we actually applied the amount of time that we spend on gossip and
Mess to real stuff man you would see a completely different Black America and our goal the Black Star network is to be that platform you want real conversations and real solutions we’ll have them if you want menstrual shows and you want ego battles and you want all that not
Interested because we don’t understand what we need but I told y’all My Philosophy has been the same if you do good I’ll talk about you if you do bad I’ll talk about you the end of day I’ll talk about you just do one thing don’t lie on me then you got a problem
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