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Episode welcome to the oldfashioned Masonic podcast where we talk all things Free Masons while drinking in oldfashioned I’m ran and you don’t see Russ Russ had some other obligations uh today when we were filming and I’m going to introduce right worshipful Mark reader who’s in town uh to do some uh
Masonic Ed at a at an area Lodge so welcome it’s good to be here so we ask everyone this question when we start and I know the answer but have you ever seen an episode I have yes I don’t think I’ve missed one yet I’m going to say I don’t
Think you’ve missed one on the back end we can see and and uh to me it’s not an episode if you don’t have Mark comment and if you if you kind of follow along especially on the social media side you don’t see this much on YouTube you
Always see his oldfashioned sitting on a chair somewhere anywhere from Kansas to Alaska yeah I I truly I truly enjoy the the episode and it’s kind of my Sunday ritual every Sunday back patio or in the case I was up in Anchorage visiting the kids I was out in the driveway and
Enjoying an old fashioned watching epis I love it so no we we enjoy it and so as you know Mark that we start every podcast is we want to know more about the man and not just the Mason so the question to start off who’s Mark reer
Well I was uh born in in Kansas City um grew up in a town called Grain Valley just east of Kansas City my grandma and grandpa graduated from Grand Valley my mom and dad grad graduated from Grand Valley so it’s a small town and pretty much had an uncle or a cousin or
Somebody on every corner okay so that’s I’m from from a small town in Missouri um After High School um went to Long Community College um studied heavy equipment diesel technician and uh right after um while I was actually going through college I um started working at Kenworth in Kansas City and that’s what
Took me off I turned wrenches for a living okay nice um after a few years there um I moved into management and ever since I’ve been a manager as far as my work okay um I met uh my wife Pam in 1998 okay and we got married and 25
Years folks for the math yeah we we got three three adult kids now okay and one one grandchild our youngest daughter had a uh he’s 18 months old now so we have I’m pea and Mima all right oh that’s the name PE yeah that’s the one that that’s
The one they’re trying to get get him to call me okay okay so when we were kids mine was grandma or Grandpa last name did we did you have crazy names for grandparents I did not I was Grandma reader Grandpa reader Grand you know or
But my dad my mom and dad are Ma and PAW and so they didn’t want they didn’t want they separation they wanted something different so they thought of okay we’re going to try to get Damon to call Pam and Mark Mima and peaw so we we’ll see
How that goes okay he’s 18 months and he’s gibbering and jabbering now but yeah I tell you what you don’t know kids are wonderful don’t get me wrong I love my kids do anything for them but that grandchild has uh yeah well I I got one
My myself he he’s got me hooked he’s almost three and as much as I say he’s a little pain in the ass which he is you know they can get away with a lot more than my kids got away with for sure yeah I I they they live in Anchorage they’re
Stationed up there and I so when we get to go visit um yeah he’s got me I he’s in my lap the whole time I know the weakness spoil I know the weakness all right so we talked about the The Who Mark is so so let’s talk about your Masonic Journey
From uh petitioning the lodge of up and and where you’re at today and we’ll start deep diving well my Masonic Journey really started when I was a young young kid my mom and dad um were an Eastern Star dad was a Mason Grandpa was a Mason and my mom was a beautician
She did hair so and Lodge night was the night she worked late at the the beauty shop so Dad would take my brother and I to to Lodge and we’d have to sit out in the Tyler’s room and he’d keep us keep us occupied so I I’ve been exposed so
That’s really when my Masonic Journey started I knew about it for a long long time time and of course they’re Eastern Stars so worthy matron Worthy Patron dinners and past worthy matron Worthy Patron I had lots of aunts and uncles fraternally right um so that’s that’s
Kind of when it started but uh as I grew up and um you know started working and and and going out I never joined I never you know Dad or Grandpa never said hey you might like this not not once planted that seed so um I was 40 years old and I
I was living in Northwest Arkansas a petitioned to LOD and B okay and that and that was in 2010 so you became a Master Mason did you go to another body after that where didd you go next I did not I from 2010 um right after I did my degree work in Arkansas
Um my job relocated me to Kansas okay and I we settled into Pica um from my Kansas City days at Kenworth I met a gentleman in in Topeka and I I came to Topeka to work for him okay and um that was right after I did my degrees I I
Just returned my third degree proficiency because in Arkansas you had to do that to sit to sit in a log to sit in a chair sit in a chair and I wanted to sit in a chair my my dad’s past Master Grandpa’s you know that was my
Goal to the line so um that so that’s what I did but you know life happens and job changed and I went to TOA and I found a home at Silver Lake Lake Lodge 50 okay and I was just involved in the blue Lodge from 2010 to 2017 okay my
Dad’s also shriner in Kansas City Eric Shrine and um I my neighbors pass potentate of Arab okay and I just two one one summer day he was out in mowling and I walked over and said hey you got a petition for the shrine and he couldn’t
Get it out of his pocket fast enough oh yeah oh yeah espe listen Shriners they they they have those little pocket petitions will fly out so so and that’s the first dependent body I joined after being and I was already a pass master by
Then cuz in 2015 was the year I set in the east For the First Time s I was so I I started the the the brothers started me at Junior Deacon and I worked my way through the chairs it’s a good spot to start and then small Lodge yeah small
Lodge yeah and so I was 2005 so 2015 to 2020 I was Master as you know I very there was nobody else so we kind of just sat in our chairs and well you did what you had to do to keep the lodge going so
Then you join the shrine uh and you set up with my first dependent body corre where’d you go after that well my second one was actually um I did Rob’s class this year oh New York right yeah yeah I did New York right um and that was the
First thing I I’ve also started my path on Scottish right now okay and you know some people um think it for other reasons but the reason I joined my cousin is a mason in Washington state and he is uh very active in Scottish right New York W he truly enjoys it and
I want to be able to share that with him that’s cool cuz I can’t if I go out there I you can’t go to a meeting CU I’m not a member so I I’ll fix this yeah become a member nice so I I did enjoy uh
Rob’s class this year and I went through and became a Knights Templar and I am an 18th degree uh night of the Rose Croy okay and I and next weekend I’m going to finish my Scottish right path here in wiah very good very good so you’ll
You’ll run into warn doc Renner I will I know uh he’s uh kind of leading the charge here in the in the Witchita Valley and uh he’s got high hopes to kind of get that thing rocking and rolling and once you go through that I
Can being a member of both I can tell you the differences so that’ll be an interesting conversation later and the the last one I’m a member of is Eastern Star Eastern Star and you join that why because my mom I I I enjoy this paternal connection with my dad and it’s a
Wonderful thing to be your dad’s brother it it just means something yeah and I I wanted to be able to share that with Mom so I joined the Eastern Star and I’ve been I became actually Secretary of the chapter and uh learning a lot there but
Uh um yeah I wanted to have the have those conversations with Mom that you you can’t unless you’re M so I thought that was cool so I read we get a little bit of BIOS and stuff to kind of work with before we start so when I saw that
You know we all talk about oh it’d be cool to be a brother with my father or a brother with my brother but when you wrote that to say hey I get to have that relationship yeah Masonic with my mom that I never heard that before and that
Just hit me different that just hit me different because you know the guys were always like we’re going to do this with our dad or our brother but what a cool way so I thought that grabbed me a little bit you know and I was in during
Growing up I was involved in Scout so Dad scout leader and you know Camp outs and all the stuff bunch of stuff with Mom yeah or with Dad lots of stuff with Dad a little bit with Mom but really never had your mom was always there for
Us always there to take care of us had but roles were roles were different back then too it was but I I just I didn’t have that I could share so I did that to share that with M I love it now that that one got me a little bit when I read
That so I I was I was anxious to get to that part so um we touched briefly because you had a family in it but what really made you seek it out at 40 years old the fraternity I I was in Northwest Arkansas at the time I was a district
Service manager for Rider Transportation uh 200 this would have been 200 late 2009 early 2010 and I was I was looking I really I I being a district service manager you work a lot you know I’d leave Monday I’d get home Friday and I you know 11 locations I was traveling
All over but I I needed something El carrying the stress of all of the places with you I needed something outside of work that I could have some friendships yeah that weren’t co-workers yeah especially when you’re the boss exactly that that Dynamic yeah you think they’re the lines can get blurred real fast
Lines can be B and I I needed something outside of that and so I called my dad one day I said Hey Dad how do I join l he say well you just need to call the local Lodge he goes I’ll be your Top Line signer if I can be of course we
Lived in Arkansas so he couldn’t be right he he wasn’t a member of that Lodge but he would be a recommender if I needed somebody and I um had another gentleman that I dealt with at work that I also put down as a a reference and so
I I petitioned in Lodge and and went from there so all right so uh we both have people especially ladies in our life that we love that are in law enforcement do right spouse daughter y so that law enforcement fraternal Bond male or female that bond is crazy oh
Yeah knowing that bond which is eerily similar to a military Bond very similar to why do we not have more officers and or soldiers joining what where where how why is that not a thing I mean we are like the closest thing to that right I
Agree and I think that’s our appeal when we finally get to have that in-depth conversation with them but um they’re not going to come to us I don’t think they’re going to come to us knocking on the door because it’s just not their nature to do that they’re going to want
To be approached by somebody that’s a Mason that’s also in law enforcement I think to to say hey you might like this so I’m going to ask you back to come on a podcast we’re going to talk about this I think that’s why they’re very protective law enforcement we should go
Touch them we almost need to maybe change our habits for that group maybe some somehow get masonry in front of them in a way that uh we got to talk about may not realize I like I like it so but do you agree that we kind of fit though
We we fit that we feel that vo because I I we have a la a brother in our lodge that’s from law enforcement in in to and I’ve I became an honorary member of another LOD in TOA that have several is that Justice I’m an H member of Justice I’m
Also an H member of 17 now okay got and they they both of those well of course justice has lots of law enforcement yes they do well that was I mean that was one of the first affinity lodes the reason I was able to I have a connection
Because of my wife you I’m not the law enforcement but I sleep with one yeah that’s that’s great I I do not there’ be some there’ be some other problems so um you are now on the Grand Lodge line I I do have that honor yeah
You do and it’s great cuz we’re excited and we’ll talk about that but so who came up and said tap tap Mark I need you to be the next guy for Kansas who who tapped you early on in Rob’s year as Deputy most Rob Rob or his year as as um
Deputy Grandmaster um I was actually at a at a um Justice meeting and he had a sidebar conversation with me that hey um keep doing what you’re doing yeah and and I just that’s what I did I I did that anyway I just kept doing appreciate
It thanks and and as you’re as you’re serving as a district Deputy area Deputy if you get on that being watched yeah but you also get some questions thrown at you they want to know what you’re about who what your thoughts are and maybe if you fit their Vision yeah and
And so I I had answered some questioners prior to ra but then I did one for now most worful and um and then when he tapped on the shoulder hey just keep doing what you’re doing folks are watching you y and uh and then at the uh District deputy’s orientation he pulled
Me aside and and ask if I would serve in that capacity so yeah that’s that’s how it happened yeah so uh several of us have first heard the name uh Mark reader when you were doing some work which we’ll talk about later for most worful Tabet and that’s when you started
Catching folks attention so it it’s like who’s this one you know because in your in the areas where you’re at everyone in Kansas City knows Kansas City wi to knows which time then you start hear it’s like well who’s that guy yeah and uh you get siloed in your you you do uh
Good bad or IND different that’s how how it is but a lot there’s lots of conversations like you’ll hear and I’ll make this I’m G to make this up oh I hear Russ Brown’s Grand senior Deacon oh my God right or if it was oh my gosh I
Hear Brian Bird’s Grand senior Deacon what a PR you know but so we’re obviously with what we do at the podcast and just being involved in masonry we hear a lot not one not one because I would tell you I don’t have to BS you not one negative word I hear this that
Might be the guy that moves the needle it’s not meant to add some extra pressure I think it’s to for you you’re just going to go there and do your job right you’re going to do my job to the best right right I’m going to do best but I
Think you going to have maybe more of a following for what I would call A small area guy than you think so just do what you do don’t change your personality you don’t that pep talk for me but just do you because I think people are going to
See that needle move and I’ve talked with past Grand Masters about you and just different things as we get prepped and the the reoccurring theme about marer is this he sets back he observes the first couple of times and then when he feels like there’s something of value
Then he’ll interject he’s not talking just to be heard so I think that’s a great compliment that’s a very true statement too but I think it’s a great compliment so anyway people people notice who you are so let’s go back to Arkansas so you started in Arkansas then
You transferred to Kanas Were You There When all of that craziness went on in Arkansas uh fortunately no um it it’s kind of a my my third degree it was a Saturday there was three of us that did first second first second it was all Saturday event but um most worthful
Jared was actually there he was I believe he was Grand Junior Deacon that year and then also um Patrick Carr was there they were both in Northwest both car’s been on a previous episode as well they were both at my the day I was raised my dad came down and it
It was it was an event they had an event but um so I so when I left Arkansas in 2010 everything was fine that happened I believe about 2013 so you’re to blame you left you left and yeah then then all heck happened and lots of the problems
And um quite frankly I I mean there’s no way to other way to say it but ego’s got in the way and Little Rock and um it allowed them to I believe hurt the fraternity a little bit yeah they’ve rided the ship they’ve brought I visited with some past
More recent past friends down there and had great it was an unfortunate time yeah and I was able to go there was a few years there I couldn’t go sit and Lodge in the lodge I was raised in isn’t that crazy it was it was tough feel like
Most things Inon let’s just’s just talk in real life most things in masonry in real life dudes and egos that’s that just tends to be if you look at problems that maybe go on the workforce but especially in masonry the root of that the dudes and Os those that’s the common denominator
For the most part agreed and and the year that at our am communication we actually voted to not recognize Arkansas that was a tough one for me I thought that might be um that was tough cuz I I know the brothers at Bentonville Lodge and they had nothing to do with what was
Going they were caught in a crossfire yeah it’s unfortunate um it was still the right thing to do it well especially in retrospect still the right thing to do it took a few years for me to be able to go back and sit and Lodge down there
Was the right thing to do it did so so you were in Arkansas I’m member of Arkansas but you hadn’t switched your membership over to Kansas yet I no I’m doing I think it’s the right words dual not plural plural is when you’re within the same jurisdiction I think it’s I might
Be wrong I’m always wrong don’t get me Tracy secretary don’t tell us what it is I I’m one of I’m still a member in Arkansas and in Kansas okay so when all that went down obviously you got formal notification like everyone probably did yes and the way it happened in Kansas
Kind of protected me a little bit because I lived in Kansas and I was Kansas Mason under under their jurisdiction guidelines yeah right so um so but things happened and I think it was most Tony’s year we were able to You Know M mend that fence and now that next
That very next year I I went down and S that that next soon as I could actually about a month later I went down s Lodge yeah so in the last several months I’d argue most of 2023 a lot going on in Texas um we kind
Of keep track with some of our brothers and other areas and you know even s Brent Morris a a a a prominent Masonic writer he’s chimed in so there’s a lot going on down there and from an outsider perspective mhm you know what needs to be done is it better communication
Better understanding check the ego at the door I mean just just a general we’re not getting listen Texas I we have a lot of Texas we’re not here to tell you how to run your business but as a brother what I mean what what’s the outside advice from Brothers I I think
One communication but two you got to check the ego first EG seem to be the hurdle that we can’t always get over yeah and implem change isn’t easy it’s not and I don’t I don’t know all the details we don’t um but I I think it seemed like I know in Arkansas
It seemed like that was an issue there was some OS that just couldn’t get um corrected there and no no good can we agree on this no good comes from everyone’s like oh he’s filing charges here I’m going to file with this plethora of charges all over in a
Perfect world if I had a magic wand to face Texas I’d say everyone get your ass in a tile room close it off if you’re not a Texas Mason get the heck out let’s iron it out what’s the beef within within within internally right and just
Say you’re not going to hurt my feelings say what you got to say let’s clear this out because all eyes have been on Texas with all this stuff going this is a it’s a huge jurisdiction it’s massive and what I would hate for Texas for because they do everything bigger in
Texas I’d hate for this to be bigger in Texas than it was in Arkansas because that could be damn near catastrophic well I I think what we have to remember is um the the brand of masonry is at stake sure do and um to bring past leaders up on or current leaders up
Charges for it’d be different if they if these things were criminal actions right these are Masonic code things right that should that maybe shouldn’t be in the public eye right to me all of this in my outside opinion all of this could have been Mark what’s up Ryan come over sit
Down let’s have a cocktail we need let’s Rush on the whatever we we got to iron this out because we don’t want a dividing line in our damn state right so yeah well we’re not getting in the middle let’s go to something a little lighter we’re going to talk about
Death great living or dead who would you like to have a meal with that you’ve never had a meal with before I’d love Harry Truman Harry good good Missouri guy good Missouri guy U my dad worked for the City of Independence okay and being a Mason working for the city and
Harry Truman was a living you know he was a legend from yeah all the things that Harry Truman was but I think that especially now that I’m on the path I’m on yeah would be a very interesting it’d be interesting the guidance he could give you know and and would he say dudes
And egos are still a problem here right he might all right Truman we heard Truman Truman’s a good one at first first thought Grandpa but um you I had had my time with Grandpa okay fair fair um why aren why aren’t men joining today like they used
To boy that’s that’s the that’s the magic question if we had the answer would solve the problem we really did I I think some of it is is time um I think the younger adults value their time at home more than maybe our generation did
Fair I mean I worked a lot and I don’t I don’t our gender roles probably way different back than how we def I didn’t have a second thought of staying late at work or I didn’t didn’t think about that and the younger generation the younger men put
More value in in their home time I think than we did maybe would you would you argue that they’re actually living by the charge better than us they probably handle their little cryp they probably handle their working tool a little better than you the 24-in gug they probably use that
Better than we do right or did fair right I mean I yeah I hope masonry has made me better at that by applying that tool but they probably start they probably use that little better an idea without even really knowing it right no so you think time is the the biggest
Thing I think time’s the biggest thing and and there’s a lot more pulling on their time yeah time really is a commodity you know as we get older money is never money doesn’t become the issue really is time because we can always make more money we just can’t make more
Time right and they right wrong or different they have to see value pretty quickly sure and they’re and they know they’re they’re gone you know I don’t think it’s unfair I had somebody ask me one time they said you know I had some new guy that’s wanting to join M me and
He said what’s in it for me I said well that’s not an unfair question because don’t we I ask if somebody says what’s in it for me well this da D and then my question right back would be so what are you bringing to the table right yeah
It’s got to be those aren’t unfair questions a two-way street it’s got to be good for both you’re asked me to give up a little bit of money and my time so what’s in it for me that’s not an unfair question to me and I think sometimes we
Don’t we have to remember they’re wanting hopefully they want to join your Lodge MH but if your Lodge isn’t the fit after your visit maybe hey you know what I need to get you in contact with this brother because you might be a better fit over here you know uh Russ Brown um
Who who does the podcast within most warful Bob Tabet we were on a membership committee for a shrine Center and shockingly we’re all members of the same Lodge I don’t know that we sent anyone to our own Lodge that came in because we’re qualifying and it’s like what do
You want to do oh but this is this is great at sunflow this is great at norstar you know it’s not about filling your Lodge when you’re doing a membership role it’s about just getting the right guy in the fit so they stay around and if you direct them to the one
That they find the home cuz when you walk in the door if you’re at the right place you know it sure you do you do you just do I agree I agree 100% so you travel a lot um you you got kids in Alaska how many different states have
You attended a lodge meeting in oh boy let’s see not just travel through you know we’ve all been to States but where what states no I actually said in L yeah um think about he’s got to think about this guys this is a good one five states
I’ve actually set in Lodge with five states five states I’ve set in Lodge in Alaska okay I’ve set in Lodge in the state of Washington okay in Arkansas Missouri and Kansas wow I I I’m thinking I don’t think I’m missing anyia that’s and I and
I’ve said in L um in in Alaska it was Eagle River North of anage um how’s how different are there openings and closings very different but it’s identical to Washington cuz something Alaska was district one for the state of Washington oh really okay so before Alaska had their own Grand Lodge right
They were the district number one in the I think Hawaii got their Charter from California I don’t know I know when I when I I’ve attended the manual Communication in Washington twice now with my with my cousin I love it up there it’s great we go to it’s in wachi
Washington which is over the hill in the orchard area Washington nice and um but uh always all those west coast states are there so you have all that West Coast stuff and Hawaii comes over okay interesting that’s pretty cool so proficiency big topic um conversation so we asked this you’ve you’ve had this
Question you’ve heard this question before on the podcast so so would you rather the ansers the best ansers to hybrid but would you rather have a line full of ba Masters unlimited proficiency card holders or a line full of inspirational and motivated leaders and
Why you got to pick a camp I I’m going to lead towards motivated leader because I think a motivated leader can get that proficience those guys that you you got to start with the motivated leader to inspire them Inspire them to keep coming and and to keep working if you’re not motivating
Them right just another brother that’s really proficient is may not do that that’s fair yeah that’s fair yeah it’s uh it’s it’s really interesting um we’ve had uh many folks that are on here with multiple proficiency cards and more often than not they kind of go with the
Same answer which kind of shocks us we’re like Oh I thought you’d go this direction but the answer is always the same hey if they want to do it they’re going to get inspired but they need the person to inspire them to get them in so fair right so not everybody’s a self
Motivated individual fair that is true well you know what I think at times we all need to be prodded at times I agree with that even pretty internally motivated guy but at times like talk or something so were you ever District Deputy if so how did you like
That role best role ever isn’t it though I I um most worell tpit put actually started this whole Grand Lodge thing for me by asking me to be District Deputy good for you Bob and uh then he shortly threw me on the membership committee good for you Bob so that that kind of
Got me rolling but I absolutely loved it I was was actually a district Deputy for a district that was not the district my home Lodge was in okay so normally the district Deputy your home Lodge was one of your lodges kind of that wasn’t the case but it actually by going out and
Visiting those brothers and meeting new brothers and realizing that’s how you got your name out there too well that well that was a I guess a by but what I what I truly loved about that was meeting Mason’s outside of my normal Circle and realizing how big masonry
Really is and then when you start traveling outside of this jurisdiction you realize wow I mean it’s there’s a lot going on there’s a lot going on and you have you have a home anywhere you go anywhere anywhere you go and I’ll share this um my daughter did Air Force San Antonio then
She went to port wiia for her Advanced Training you know you know dad being dad um you know being thousands of miles away I’m thinking how if some she need need something how am I going to help her she’s a grown adult she’s in the milit she doesn’t help but you’re are
Children forever right you Dad me and Dad I call the master of the lodge closest Lodge and he immediately text me back hey here’s my number if she ever needs anything just call me so when I went and visited her before she went to Anchorage I made sure to go by and I
Didn’t get a sit in Lodge with the brother but I I got to visit take a tour of the lodge Oxnard Lodge love it that you know that’s where people outside are say oh you guys are cultish why is some guy in Al going to look after Somebody’s
Daughter because this is what we do and turns out he was a Navy he was in the Navy okay at that base well it doesn’t make him bad people my no no not at all but her sergeant that was in charge of her okay was a Mason that attended that
Lodge and she had no idea I I was that close of I knew you know they didn’t call and tell me anything but they had she had no idea until towards the end her training her Sergeant goes hey is your dad a Mason yeah and she goes especially with daughters yeah
Especially with daughters it’s that peace of mind our kids through here you know say do you guys know everybody but I mean they got pretty good my other two kids stayed close to home you really didn’t go it was she you know and dad was I had Dro her off at me that’s
Arkansas is a long way away this isn’t MEPS and KC no I I had well I yeah I had Dro her off at me and KC yeah I had to Dro her off and that was I tell you what that the hardest thing for this Dad to
Ever do yeah I mean it was hard for Dad to leave then she shot down to lacklin to do her did lacklin did for then Anchorage and she did her whole contract at Anchorage okay and then you know met my son-in-law they both worked in the
Same shop and now I have a grandson I love it I love it that’s awesome so um we talked about uh most forceful Bob Tabet he uh put you he kind of started this journey kind of did yeah so you know Bob Bob has this Persona on the
Outside oh he’s just energetic and great and he is an energetic and great guy but Bob you know what you do to Russ Brown and I and Bob every time that we’re round him we’ll I’ll say oh you know got Mike Johnson and he’ll jump on me say oh
There’s your man crush you know I’m the best looking living Grand Master of Kansas ever most roal Bob says this all the time so let’s assume he’s wrong let’s just assume okay if if most forceful Bobs not the best looking Living Past grandm in Kansas oh man who
Is it oh man okay I’m I’m go Jeff s oh my God that’s twice Tracy Bloom said s sld what is going on we know it’s Mike Johnson we know it’s Mike Johnson what is going on uh I feel like there’s collusion here it’s funny all right so
Um we’re going to in the the the question with this if you had a magic wand today to improve masonry what’s the one thing just if it doesn’t have to be real just F [ __ ] I want this to be fixed and our problems will be reduced somehow fix the communication
Piece that we struggle with yeah that I mean it’s so hard I don’t know how many times we’ve had something or Tred to communicate something and then well I’ve never heard of that it’s been out there for months if somehow if we to communicate with every brother in our
Jurisdiction in an effective way that would be my magic blond if I can number one problem number one resolution so tough to to do yeah yeah that’s you know that’s actually that’s an attainable magic wand I mean how do you do it I don’t know but yeah communication to to actually know what
That is yeah other than just shotgunning it over plenty of formats that might be the answer right so on the screen folks you’ll see one must go one must go forever so we’ve got beer doesn’t matter light beer dark beard whatever you like we’ve got a wine red wine white it can
Be what whatever you want we’ve got a great bourbon over here normally it’s Scotch but a great Bourbon and we have vodka one of these has to go forever it was never invented what has to go and why well my answer is different now than it
Was when I was younger but if I look at that Beer’s got to go I don’t I don’t care if beer was ever ex ever made you know I’d be okay with that uh now younger in life that would probably been a different answer but now I’m more I’m
More younger in life your budget went to beer correct but now in right now based on my knowledge at 53 years of age okay beer would go beer would go and and what’s never going is bourbon bourbon it’s never going that that would be the
Last would be my next one to go I would not go do away with vodka or B yeah yeah I I could go beer and wine but yeah vodka you can do so much for vodka can be refreshing so that’s all we have mark thank you for uh Che joining the old
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