He Hello everybody welcome back to another episode of the male perspective I am your host Lana Reed and today today is an amazing day a phenomenal day I get to sit down with one of the wonderful men of five Beta Sigma fraternity Incorporated I have with me a man
Finally known as pastor G Mr John girton he is what we call a Serial solo preneur servant leader and so much for more and I’m looking forward to spending some time with him today and learning more about the amazing work that he is doing but first and foremost sir uh as I
Always do I take a quick moment to pause and say thank you to you for making time for me today time is a gift once we give it we can’t get it back so I truly appreciate you setting aside this time to talk with me and with that welcome
Welcome to the show thank you so much it’s good to be here and I thank you for the invitation great great well as I mentioned in the opening you are a sigma man please tell me where’ you pledge and how long have you been a sigma wow I
Pledged uh spring 1988 at Ball State University in Muny Indiana lamb de beta chapter uh where I’m I’m I’m proud to say I uh work not only undergrad as a as a member but I also was the president for a couple years we did some very Innovative and wonderful things and that
Means I’ve been in the attorney now for if my math is correct okay let’s just say over 30 years well you want them old school pledges though old school pledges on the yard right buddy all right well let me get into some of the amazing stuff that
You’ve got going on um and I want to start off one of the things that I do when I prepare for these chats with you gentlemen is kind of roam around social media and see what you’re up to and I stumbled across one of the videos of you
And you were talking about something that reminded me of some conversations I tend to have with uh younger people when they have these big dreams about being an entrepreneur and they’re like Miss Lana I’m going to be famous in two months and you know I’m have the
Mercedes and everything and I just kind of shake my head and smile and think to myself oh do not despise the days of Small Beginnings right and you you have a story in uh you were sharing in this video and I I was wondering if I could
Trouble you to uh share with us you have a peanut butter cookie story yeah I do so we could understand how entrepreneurship really worked how it starts well you know the even the peanut butter cookie story has some other tentacles to it uh obviously U there was
A bug I believe I didn’t know what entrepreneurship was I didn’t know what solopreneurship was I didn’t know what business was all about um but I knew a a little early on I think um I don’t know how old I was maybe I was 13 or younger
Than that when um all I had made some cookies and and I had just made some cookies and people liked them and they kept uh asked me to make more so I made more I started selling them and it’s funny because my daughter is now selling uh cinnam cinn cinnamon bun cinnamon
Rose or whatever cin bun looking things you it just remind I kind of chuckled because it reminded me uh as she was uh had people coming into the house and pulling into the driveway and we’re she’s making them and we’re cting them out the front door door and all this
Their cash apping her and all that it did it did remind me when I was uh uh not not yet a a real full teenager that I was doing um true you know I was really understanding true supply and demand uh that early now the
Shift to um really Desiring to be uh in quote unquote business if you will started when someone stole my bike uh my parents had just bought me this nice silver and gold Murray bike uh back in the day and I rode it to school during the summer for summer school and
My sister and I hid our bikes behind this bush we came out and the bikes were gone so we like oh no you know I just bought them my parents just bought I just got these so I went back to my parents and basically was like Hey
Somebody stole our bikes or my bike at least and so so they looked at me and was like Hey I don’t know what to say uh we only got one bike in us so I don’t know what you’re going to do but we’re not buying you another bike and so that
Started this other thing which was now I got to figure out how to raise the money to buy a bike and so I think I got a paper out or something like that uh to raise the money what I actually ended up doing was I ended up learning how to
Build a bike so I didn’t buy a bike I built a bike and then once I built the bike other people like the bikes I built and started asking me to build bikes for them so then that started that piece and then so I got a little better at the
Whole concept of supply and demand and then lastly uh I wanted to to to DJ a friend of mine and I decided we were gonna be you know Crush grooving and all that back in the day and we wanted to be Run DMC and all that and uh now I’m
Showing my age but uh in order to buy the equipment um again I needed to raise the money and so um I started uh doing the DJ thing which raised more money and then ultimately I learned how to write contracts uh negotiate deals uh purchase equipment I had leases things like that
Transportation move stuff around booking you know all of those little details we learned when I started DJing at about at about uh 14 or so uh and then I continued to do that even through college and uh eventually uh stopped DJing but I I never once I learned the word
Entrepreneurship I un I started to understand what I was doing I like oh okay that’s what I’m doing I said okay well I want to do that and boom there there it is it was kind of the path I was on so that’s it I and so now we’re
Probably about what 101 15 businesses later yeah as you as you say I’m a Serial I call myself a Serial solopreneur because I am more of a solopreneur than entrepreneur most people don’t know the difference between the two but I definitely do I’ve been in
It yeah so yeah I I can my wife would tell you I can start a business in a hot second I could sell sand desert you know I could sell water in the ocean um I don’t have any problem starting a business um and getting something up and
Running because I I’m I’m a lifelong learner number one and I feel like as long as I have access to information no matter what I want to do ultimately I can figure out how to do it and with the level uh and the degree and the the pace
Of innovation to be quite Frank if you are going to be in some type of business I mean there are ways you can start business and let other people do all the work but at the end of the the day with at the pace of innovation you have to
Always be willing to learn and I’ve Loved learning so much that I could shift you know no matter what the wind no no matter which way the wind is blowing I can learn what it takes to kind of go with the flow and and pick up and start doing doing things that’s on
The cutting if not bleeding edge that’s great you know it’s so important to learn how to Pivot and you know some people just really get stuck and and just really can’t I’ve been doing it this way and all and but you’re you’re bumping your head against the wall you
Don’t see that you’re not going to make the shift so it’s very important to learn how to Pivot so very much let me let me switch gears a little bit because I I got a short amount of time and I want to discuss something because you
Are the go-to guy when it comes to Media you know um and you’re also a pastor and we had a global situation a few years back called a pandemic and I’m curious because you are the media guy in what ways did you notice the church was struggling when it came to transitioning
To a virtual space well I don’t know if you saw TLC which is the loving Church TLC church I found it back in ‘ 08 which was one of the first virtual churches in the country I saw that that I saw well before the pandemic that we were behind
The eightball okay I started doing a virtual uh streaming if you will when it was posted stamp they called it posted stamp streaming way back in the early 2000s uh when we had dial up motor so I was kind of on that page a long
Time ago and to be quite Frank I’ve been screaming this to the to the body of Christ for almost a decade um uh before the pandemic well actually was over a decade because if I started in ‘ 08 I’ve been researching it maybe two or three
Years prior to that uh the pandemic hit 2020 so basically you know what everyone was sort of grappling with I had already dealt with so I saw it early i’ had been screaming I went matter of fact I could tell you now I’m not going to mention
Names but I went to the pastor Baptist convention USA Incorporated went to the president and said look this was back when I was pastoring I was lead pastor of Christ Missionary Baptist Church here in Indianapolis which was a historical church at the time I shees I was Pastor that church in what maybe
2016 I was going to those conventions and I was pleading with them to allow me to help educate our clergy and their and their leadership on how to do this they would they they would say yes they would say okay that’s great sounds great and nothing and so and I’m just being honest
I’m not being deases or anything I’m just being honest just telling and so to some degree when the pandemic hit I understood what was going on because I saw it coming I saw it coming 10 years prior to that so yeah I I saw it well before it happened great great you know
I think maybe personally some of the some of the struggles with especially in the black church were traditionally used to the call and response kind of thing so older pastors the mentality was if I don’t have a crowd in front of me how am I going to make this this happen you
Know and how I’m going to make that adjust to Virtual space but you know if you have the n and honestly that’s part of the idiosyncrasies of the online Ministry which to me should be celebrated why because when you’re in an online space you’re not concerned about the numbers of people you’re not
Concerned about who’s screaming and hollering and who’s falling out speaking in tongues you’re not concerned about the ham and B3 organ you’re not concerned about who comes down you’re doing what the Bible says it says some plant others water God gets increase we’re not called we’re not called to
Count you know we’re called to drop the seed of a word and the truth and what I like about virtual is that it removes all the distractions it removes all the expectations and allows you to just drop the word of God if you’re if you are committed to that then it doesn’t matter
Whether you you have one or you have a thousand it doesn’t matter if you’re in front of a camera if you’re virtual if you’re in a church you’re in a sanctuary or if you’re standing on the side of the road as long as you’re able to be
Committed to dropping the word of God the rest of it let him handle it right there you go there you go I’ll get off of that soap box right there you go no good Soap Box to be on because you know we have lost our way when it comes to
That yeah so let me let me transition to one of the other things that you’ve got going on you have so many hats um but I saw this as I was being nosy one of the things that you lead up is unite for change and I see last year you just
Recently had your seventh Urban leaders servant leadership I actually haven’t we actually haven’t gotten back to the urban servant leadership on conference our last one was uh during the pandemic we did the virtual one and when I started at working at Martin University that put a lot of my United for change
Things on Ice the magazine we have uh we had the Ford magazine that was going we had a radio show that’s was going we had a podcast that was going we had all that stuff going and then I started at Martin University in uh August of 2020 and
Everything took a pause so to be quite honest um the community is screaming and hollering at me now like pastor G what are you gonna do and part part of that is because we’re continuing to see the need for the urban servant leader to have and find the support that they need
For the work that they do you mentioned servant leadership I’m all about servant leadership but I also recognize that there’s this thing called Urban servant leadership and urban servant leadership is totally different than servant leadership because yes you are leading by serving but when you’re an urban servant leader you’re leading by serving
And the people that you’re serving are also spitting in your face at the same time so it takes a lot to be a servant leader in an urban context because the people typically look like you many times they’re they’re connected to you or they’re related to you or contextually they’re coming from the
Same environment and it hurts a lot to be an urban servant leader because you’re trying to help a community that you love and that you’re committed to but at the same time that Community is not necessarily loving you back and tank of an urban servant leader empties a lot
Quicker than the tank of a servant leader why because a servant leader will drive into a community they’ll serve they’ll get back in their car and they’ll drive back home and they’ll they’ll leave that community that they where Urban servant leader actually is serving in the community that they live
In they worship in they work they serve in that same community so you can’t really leave it you know so anyway uh that’s the urban Serv leadership on conference it’s a pivotal it’s a pivotal conference it you know when we do do it it is amazing what happens in that room
People’s eyes open and they see things that they’ve never seen before because of the way we present uh the what we call presenting issues in community and how they are to be uh resolved or or uh turned around okay so do you plan on picking it back up for 2024 is that is
Can we cross our fingers for that I’m not sure if I can do it in 2024 but I I mean I literally have sponsors who are like I’m ready to write you a check so um what is I just ultimately for me right now it’s about
The team and I’m being told that the team is out there I just need to ask and so um as soon as I ask and the team shows up we’re going to do it whether that’s 2024 or 2025 but I definitely have to make it happen what our
Grandmama say close mouth don’t get fed so we gota open up your mouth and he so right so all right you you mentioned real quick there that you were uh you were on staff you one of the people making the magic happen at Martin University and um just for clarification
Because sometimes people don’t understand the lingo what’s the difference between HBCU and a PB I well it’s very simple uh and um HB HBCU uh the designation stopped at the signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 so any school that would be minority serving predominantly African-American that was founded before
1964 uh would be considered an HBCU any MSI A Min minority serving institution that was founded after 1964 is considered a family black institution uh as in Martin University which was founded in 1977 okay okay so we got a few about a decade there all
Right one I guess I got time for one more question before I gota let you go because you got things to do you miss making things happen um homelessness is a uh northsouth East West it’s it’s a big problem here in the United States and I see that you are the the tent
Pastor did that parlay with that or was that for another reason it was a about homicides and uh honestly what drove me out there was that when I began to Pastor in that Community I was called to preach and you know attend a lot of funerals of of
Young people and in my spirit I knew that something needed to happen and I can’t give you the whole story but uh I knew that something needed to happen and in my mind I thoughtwell in order to raise awareness not just of the victims but of the people who were left behind
As the collateral damage of what just happened the mothers the fathers the grandmas the grandfathers the community people um who were left behind the deal the friends and the peers and so I knew something needed to happen to really uh generate some some uh attention on the
Survivors to support them I thought in my little bitty in my little bitty brain I thought that what needed to happen was we needed to shut the streets down and do a mock funeral and get a bunch of hearses going down the street and you know and and bring all the community out
Like a parade thing and you know big or go home yeah have a press release and get all the media out and all that and I tell you what uh the Lord said to me in uh and I preached a sermon about this in a still Small Voice the Lord said no I
Don’t want you to ask anyone else to sacrifice anything to bring attention to this the Lord said you be the sacrifice and I said well what does that look like I’m literally I’m having a conversation with the Lord like that and a friend of mine was doing had done something called
A rooftop campaign in Chicago on south side of Chicago pastor Corey Brooks he and I went to college together and so I called up there and I said what do you what do y’all think it would be like if I did a tent campaign here in the city
Of Indianapolis and so we we had myself and about three two others had conversations between Atlanta Chicago and Indianapolis and we talked about it about what it would look like for me to sacrifice in that way position myself in one of the most violent areas of the
City uh and an effort to bring awareness and to also get closer to the community and find out what their needs really were and out of all of that was born the tent campaign uh I think that most people thought I was going to be there for a couple days
Uh but once they saw that I after a week I was still there after two weeks I was still there after three weeks I was still there I think it became evident that you know that I was serious God was in it uh I didn’t really think about how
Dangerous it was until afterwards uh but I had the true support not only of my family my immediate family my mother my father uh but I also had the support of uh the uh Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department who flew over me every night um had uh just all kind of support
Uh there that helped to make that thing happen and I just want you to know I’m not the same no one that was involved in what we did is the same uh the homicide dropped to zero while I was out there um so it it was such an amazing life
Altering experience that none of us walked away uh the same um so so but but you just don’t walk out and do that that’s not something you just do it’s you God has to say hey I want you to do this otherwise it is a dangerous thing
And even when people would come to me and say isn’t it wasn’t that a dangerous thing to do I would tell them say you know think it may seem dangerous to you but here’s the truth while I was out there I had gang members coming to me
Saying you ain’t got to worry about nothing we got your ain’t nobody gonna mess with you because they got to come through us before they mess with you you know and so that’s what I think that why people still call me Pastor Jesus is that I don’t have a church anymore okay
I don’t have people anymore I have a community and that Community still loves on me and they still call on me I still do funerals for people that I don’t know I still go to the hospital and I’m going to visit one person and I hear a voice
Say pastor G and I end up visiting someone else I still I’m on a phone uh with someone in Dallas Texas uh a couple days ago while they watch their mother breathe their last breath I’m on I’m on the phone with someone from Atlanta who has a son who has schizophrenia and she
Just needs somebody to pray with her so as I’m a community Pastor so I show up for people who don’t have anybody and that really was cemented when I did the tent campaign and it helped people to see that that every Pastor is not just concerned about those who walk in the
Doors we also concerned about those who walk past the doors awesome awesome um you’re in a what we call a metropolitan City and a lot of cities are struggling crime wise now would you say Indianapolis is getting better or because you mentioned the gun violence went to zero when you did the campaign
Um how how are things currently in the urban areas in our communities there well we’re probably not unlike any other cities I’m sure I spent a lot of time almost 20 years in Nashville Tennessee and it’s going through it’s a very similar City going through the same thing
Um some you know some if you start splitting hairs violent crime uh shootings versus uh homicides uh are trending down uh but at the end of the day uh really you know we’re really dealing with the heart issue uh that’s going on in our community in our streets and um
When you add the layer of the uh police action shootings we’re dealing with a a increase of police action shootings where the police are pulling out guns and are resolving situations by pulling the trigger and and killing uh whoever they’re seeking to apprehend those numbers are up here in Indianapolis
Right now so when you add the layer of those who are called To Serve and Protect also Taking Lives you almost start to wonder you know who can I trust if I can’t trust the kids in the community the youth in the community I can’t trust uh the those who are called
To Serve and Protect like what are you know who are in the systemic issues and all that going but bottom line we’re dealing with a you know the the dismantlement of the family dismantlement of the housing structure we’re dealing with materialism we’re dealing with you know the rise of
Um of uh hate uh against people and their cultures and this whole you know just a lot going on right now that’s fighting against and undermining uh what we are trying to do in the community and and the church uh has to rise to the occasion to get back to the basics and
That is you know uh Jesus said you can’t tell me you love me and you don’t love your neighbor who you see every day we’ve got to find a way to start loving each other you know I I I found the most fruitful time that I would spend on the
Sunday Sunday is when I got on a bike with my full suit on and I rolled that bike into an alley and I asked those people does anybody want to pray and those folk would literally be running from across the street trying to line up
And get into prayer with Pastor G on a Sunday morning I would on that same Sunday I’d leave that alley ride my bike back to the church stand in the pull pit and I say it’s altar call time it’s altar time y’all come to the Altar and there’ll be people literally still
Sitting there sitting in their seats at the body of Christ need to figure it out we we’ve got to recognize that that that the streets are where they are because the church is where it is it makes absolutely no sense that we got people who are not saved telling the church
Chch how to act that don’t make no sense we we we’ve got to return uh to loving on one another and respecting one another and recognizing that I can love you even if I don’t like you uh there may be some things that you do that I
Don’t like but that doesn’t mean that I don’t love you there’s no zero some games in the in the body of Christ there’s no if you don’t give me what I want then nobody’s G you know nobody’s gonna get anything so I’m just gonna leave walk out and set up a church next
Door you know I’m come on y’all very very much like a toddler very much like a toddler it’s immature and and we just need to uh focus in on number one and that is to love one another uh as Christ uh loves us you know so I don’t know and
He plain he plainly lays it out there in the Bible it’s it’s all there from cover to cover it’s it’s just you know but I’m hearing quite a few people uh in the ministry kind of say just get back to the basics so hopefully we can Circle
Back there one last question before I let you go well ask before I ask my random question uh Mr serial solopreneur what can we expect from pastor G in 2024 wow uh well um the company the company I currently own which called Gert Enterprises when I get off work at
Martin University I tell people all the time I get off work come home go back to work so we’re doing a tremendous number of virtual and hybrid events that we we my company in addition to graphic design and marketing and things like that website production that we do we produce
These events so we’ve got um in a few in three weeks Shannon sharpet will be here uh at Warren Central High School Performing Arts Center so we’re producing that event we’re producing Jackie Jordan KY and Jackie Williams uh at the U at the NCA uh next month and
Then in April we have Deion Sanders at Lucas Oil Stadium uh for an event there that will be producing we’re producing an education event Tenley uh on February the 24th the black documentary film filmmakers um uh film Film Festival will be happening at Martin University we’re producing that on on February 22nd we’ve
Got the Gaya in April Martin commencement in May uh we have an uh I believe it’s an altimer event that we’ll be doing in the community in June uh uh breast cancer awareness in September as we always do diversity Round Table in October uh we have the 90s weekend going
On for for Martin University Homecoming in October so as you can imagine there’s a lot that we’re gonna be doing this year with our events and activities that’s just that’s just kind of what okay there’s more coming okay I’m expecting to see it well let me ask you
My random question and let me let you get out of here because you got other things to do today so let’s see what we got here let’s see what we got what’s one item on your bucket list like long-term bucket list or short-term bucket list what is your pick
Okay short bucket list I need to take a vacation well that would make sense that would make sense where would you go where would you go I you know I think right now um sometimes I go to Los Vegas I don’t gamble or anything and I don’t
Drink I don’t do any of that but sometimes I go to Las Vegas because I I’m a watcher I’m a people Watcher okay sometimes I go there just to watch people move around and God speaks to me when I’m watching people you know so I
Could probably go most of the time I go to Nashville down to Cool Springs which is south of brenwood Tennessee to a little hotel I go all the time I go there all the time most the time I do something like that do a 4- day weekend
Uh Friday Saturday Sunday Monday then go back on Tuesday but uh if I if if somebody said hey I got you where you want to go I would probably go to a hotel in Las Vegas and just walk around you know just walk around watching people eating chilling resting sleeping
You know I need about five days of just uninterrupted sleep you know do you ever walk around without a camera without a mic without without filming stuff taking pictures oh yeah I’m older you know I’ve been doing video since 84 so I’m I’m tired of sh video yeah if I can get out
Without taking grab one of these cameras or whatnot I’m just I would just be out walking around nobody would ever know okay well we got to teach the Next Generation so they could come up and be a pastor G number two oh I got them they
Upstairs he’s upstairs now I got two of them here that are that are uh that are taking after me they’ve been doing this since they was in diapers when and faith is the my daughter is the executive administrator of her brothers so yeah I I done raised up a little
Crew I I mad at you I love to hear it I love to well sir tell us uh you know how we connect with you and check up on you and see all the amazing stuff you’re doing give us websites and all that stuff man I you know I think my website
Uh expired or something so I I didn’t even renew it because I don’t and to be quite Frank I don’t really need any more business right now so it’s not a website now I would just say connect with me on LinkedIn at John girton uh you probably
Find me John girton or pastor G on LinkedIn uh on Facebook same thing John gton I do have a business Facebook page at giron Enterprises g t Enterprises with an S so I’m there I have my Gert speaks uh is there on Facebook as well
Gert speaks J T speaks is there as well so any of those is fine I’m not really an instagr Instagram kind of guy I have an account but I don’t follow it that much um but U yeah you can find me any of those and you know once you once you
Find me typically uh a person uh you can always interact with me send me messages I respond the whole nine that’s the best way to connect with you awesome well sir I appreciate your time today and your stories and everything I wish you uh I don’t have to tell you this but just
Keep on doing what you’re doing and I am I’m just so in awe just so impressed thank you so much praise God no thank you for again thank you for the invitation and I hope that there was something that was said today that might be a blessing to someone and
I can say connect with me because I talk back and they can pick up my book um from uh um shoot uh from uh it was easier for me to ask you how long you’ve been a sigma than the title of the you just wrote the book I did I I I wrote
The book it’s it’s something like from uh from uh passion to propit is the book is like passion of profit that’s my solo preneurship book it’s on Amazon and Barnes & no yep and I in that video in in that book I go through all
The steps uh that I take to uh help someone launch a business and um if they go to my if you go to my Girt speaks or you go to my Girt Enterprises you’ll also see a link to the website that is associated with the book where I’ve got
Videos that I recorded on a lot of the tips about how to get your solopreneurship started I you know and I know you got to go but I’m G throw this here I’ll stay I always say it like this you know the reason why I focus on solopreneurship and not entrepreneurship
Is because I believe that there are so many people out there who will tell you that they’re living from paycheck to paycheck or they’ll tell you man I’m I’m trying to to to to get into a better apartment or I’m trying to get a job I mean get a better car or something
Something like that and I’ll say well what’s holding you back well I’ve got these high interest credit cards or I’ve got a school loan or I’ve got something from my past that you know my credit is bad or whatever and then I sit back and
I go well look here’s a deal let’s look at what it is you’re attempting to do if it’s to pay off a high interest credit card if it’s to pay off that school loan if it’s to purchase a car with a a larger down payment you know whatever
That thing it might be to to send your child to a private school whatever that is the look at how much it’s going to cost you to achieve that goal now once you understand what it cost you to achieve that goal then let’s just break that down and understand what would it
Take if that goal was $10,000 or let’s do easy math $112,000 to put down a down payment on a nice car so you don’t have this big card payment right take that $122,000 that’s $1,000 a month for 12 months all right that means you got to
Come up with $250 a week all right for 52 weeks look at that $250 and you you divide that $250 by the amount of time you can make yourself available on the weekend maybe you can make yourself available five hours on Saturday five hours on Sunday you take that $250 now you’re
Down to $25 an hour so if you spend you you feel if you spend 10 hours a weekend making $25 an hour you can raise the money you need in 12 months to put down the down payment on that car the next question is is what are you passionate
About that someone would be willing to pay you $25 an hour to do that could be develop website that could be writing a book that could be editing someone’s copy uh a copy that somebody has for letters that could be virtual assistant that could be that could be cutting
Grass that could be raking leaves that could be shoveling snow that could be you you see what I’m saying true entrepreneur true okay and then people will say well pastor G well how do I come up with what I’m passionate about it’s real simple this is in my book find
Out what you lose track of time doing and I once you examine what you lose track of time doing your gift is in there somewhere okay so stop running from people who are trying to find you to tell tell you all their business there might be a coach in there
Somewhere if you feel Goa gotcha you feel me so so that’s what solopreneurship for me Isn’t about just starting a business it’s about reaching a goal and it’s taking that goal and breaking it down into the the pieces that you need to break it down into to
Make it easier for you to achieve whatever that goal is you want to pay off that credit card you want to get the down payment you want a down payment for a house you wantan you know send your child to private school you want your child to go to school scot-free they
Don’t want no debt these are the kind of things you can do in the way you can achieve it through a solopreneurship Endeavor you don’t involve nobody else it’s just you getting getting it done and then that commitment that you have makes it easier for you to cut that
Grass because you know why you doing it cutting that grass you’re gonna send that child to that private school that’s why you’re doing it you get what I’m saying so I just want no no no no good and so circling back to your book um do you provide coaching for people on top
Of that only thing I’ll do I don’t provide individual coaching because of my schedule but what I will do is I will come and speak so I will do what I mean some people call that group coaching where you get a room full of people and
You go through all of these things the presentation ask you know Q&A and all that I’ll do it for a group all day long but individually and of course people do call me and ask me questions and I’ll answer questions but I don’t do it in a coaching format where I’m actually you
Know formalizing that thing because of and it’s just because of my schedule uh at the University I am the Executive Vice President and chief of staff so my responsibility at the University are fairly are fairly deep uh and so when you get done doing that come home and
Start doing my other thing all I can really do is respond to questions on Facebook questions on link in and if somebody ask me to come speak somewhere I’ll come do that and and I’m always available to to do those kinds of things I bet you the wife was sitting in the
Background like oh I don’t have to hear this man come up and say he don’t he done started another business I’m done I’m done I’m done I’m toast all right all right so so once again thank you so much for your time and your tips I just just truly appreciate it and I’m
Pretty sure there is just tons of gems of knowledge and and in in the interviews so thank you so much for your time bless you no problem thank you thank you that is all for this week’s episode of the male perspective I’m your host Lana Reed and I will see everybody next Time a
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