What we’re going to do now is we’re going to have opening remarks by the people talk so you won’t start with it I’ll start my name is ocean fox i’m a senior member of Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority Incorporated as well as critical color what all of my supposed
To be introduced hello fighting my name is wasted call me bro I’m singing as well i’m a member of another blackberry story editor right Howard treated okay identify I guess I don’t like people but I do have a girlfriend me probably walking around here with I alright
Hi I’m Marcus Thurmond I am a member of the LGBT community of the black community I my sexual identity identify as a genderqueer and well I guess it’s like really fluid though like comes in and out and also like I guess my sexuality is just cleared my name is the
Point more I love fresh I identify alright so everyone has had opportunity to hear from the panel so right now we’re going to enter into the Q&A section we’re going to be talking to talk proper time enough terminology so the panel has in front of them questions
About the phrases that are you know what are some phrases or words that are appropriate to refer to the LGBT to community so we should hit that to you guys or so you can plug this in one it doesn’t have to be you or you yep tight like that way don’t call it
More so it’s gonna get ahead I guess like carpet muncher but our dumb don’t ask the question I don’t know that but don’t if you have a friend or LGBT people and they’re a part of a guessing no accentuate relationship I no question that gives me a peppy oh yeah
That’s something today um I think like personally um I don’t think you should like let like inappropriate like language like that like have power over you because I mean like if you actually like let those things like you know if you give those things power and like you
Know you let those things like have a negative effect on you then like you know ultimately that’s gonna like bring you down like that’s you’re giving them power to like it you bring them to bring you down like you know um and I don’t think that you should like so pretty
Much I don’t think that you should let anyone pigeonhole you because I think like you know we all have like multiple layers like to who we are and I just think that we should like really like to know be open-minded about like these multiple like layers that we all that we
All have you know the question is coming if I’m meeting a girl and mill in the girl God made the size to dress more masculine activity may ride Atta girl that just like a point obviously got the same difference it was um yeah I don’t like that question it
Kind of fans me editing based on what you guys have heard what some questions that in cycling in your mind that you want to try to present I know personally and it happen today remember if I mizzou goodness i’m sure i always get the sorry Willis number right
If even a fibroid was super like how to respond to that I just think it’s a great I would tell them to take a little intro class they’re going to topics but i think you know just informed and you know feminism was in the women infamous to you because i know there’s different
That’s the first wave third wave going to finish you know the extreme let them know you know as your identification of it and then go forth with that that’s what i would do i wore my muslim pride shirt but i don’t agree actually people are to know my persuasion but for
Someone who who might even on the borderline people don’t know I feel like that’s the time for you the self self-important informed in yourself and let them know no that’s in their comment to make because you could actually offend somebody you actually think you know I’m saying that’s what I was that’s
A good suggestion whenever like if I have a hot cute shirt or something I’ve never personally whatever but um I would yeah I would just direct them to resources I mean the thing about it was that we have you spend so much time here he’s been obvious for the year
TQ RSVP by common such as always there but I think a lot of people are also which I mean to help that’s the investors with campus-wide problem not just a feel comfortable I know this is great but wherever I go downstairs right so I think like for me
Like it just or I think like it might be cold everyone else i’m not sure but um I think like if you love yourself like and you know like the things that like matter to you and like the difference like that you can like make or like the
Things that you can bring to the table um then you can use those things in order to like further like your you’re like total like you know like your total like you know overreaching goal like um and um so I mean I have like I’m this
New feminism like button that I put on my my backpack all the time and I actually this one woman my wasn’t nervous a class like this semester and I wear like a black shirt like like here and there but it’s like you know those things like I know that those things
Like matter likes me like essentially and you know I just think that if you know that and like I just so important to you that serious you don’t wanna to aversive where you shut them off because that’s the problem sometimes people don’t even a question so in so I ask you a question
Unity approaching and correctly you know you might want to say future references know how you really address someone this is actually offensive but let me tell you why I mean understand like a good fan excuse you and brush them out because they know what else with an act
That question it and they’re not going to educate themselves or other people so that’s just comment with everything in general if someone approaches you a question is like an appropriate you want to correct them and tell them that that is offensive such a straight and they’re nice
And just like tonight like us having this form here too it’s for you ought to ask those questions that you think that you be here day by talking a scream so don’t be afraid to ask yeah we’re not going to attack you I really liked was just ocean like just
Like you know I’m approach every situation with like love and compassion ultimately you guys have any other things that you want to ask cisco cycling around no don’t be afraid to ask question this is like I said before this is an attention to so ask questions the
Term queer some people use it in a negative sense so some of these are you like negatively or queer you guys identify yourself this weird how do you differentiate I think that when we were going over the terminology about what we deem does offensive like how world was
Talking about something we use the word diet or some Sun game you may revert themselves or each other as fast there’s a difference between using words in a furtive way then reclaim doors reappropriation the appropriate word that has been used to harm you where you take the power back
That w something issue so by me saying I’m queer it’s finding a saying that I different I don’t I mean to explain the idea of queer I mean by on Peters a political statement as well I identity is web because even within the LGBT community they’re still certain
Expectations a row that that people want you to be that you want to that you should have a game that you should be so you know there’s there’s different kinds of them which would be a certain kind of game or different kind of lesbian or something like that but by me saying I’m
Queer I say that on really identified via even though I have same-sex attraction to me and I also understand that my sexuality is very fluid understand that I don’t identify with everything but its meaning to what what it means to be do this to be like oh
That’s a gay man right there or whatever else so those indicators are love social norms or whatever those expectations by me saying I’m clear I’m taking the car back from that it’s the same way like some like in some like in the black you have someone who we find the work
Neither that’s that’s taking the power back from from people who’ve used to say it like in the harmful way and say clear off so it’s breaking down that binary so as the spoon of being in the LGBT community break down that binary of the heteronormative me that we
Live in today and by jen or sequoia or markets identifying is clear they’re breaking down that binary you believe it or not that we have within our home in the labeling that we put on ourselves as being clear on top of that oh I’m saying though I am Martin type whatever can you
Define work we’re use one to think of this context big a lot of it copy the tone could you say something to me no matter whether it’s usually offensive or not can’t depict it it’s actually official to me but why I go far clearer person anything else it’s because i use
The term bisexual people immediately decide to ask okay well how many girls need a 20 when were you currently dating well i’m currently dating a guy okay so you’re actually straight I do not say that you kind of discredit what I actually tell people about sexuality about my potential the front by sexual
Actions must be dating a girl is worth the control sometimes assume so if I just a clear maybe they’ll take it as a more serious tone I mean apparently part of bisexuals doesn’t think that gets come on point across the people i mean they don’t believe it the term for
Yourselves hard to find with us i mean if you think of the pats it’s a queer queer mean strange square means different I mean it’s like it really doesn’t have definition to like it is what it is essentially so I mean you connect this
Money yes a number of time we try to use it as an inclusive term within community like it sometimes it’s easier because all those letters can be a bit now cool right now but I mean so if we say like the queer community we’re talking about
People in the LGBT people outside of the head of society I think if you’re like a person enterprises clear like you definitely have like a different outlook on life and it’s like that maybe like necessarily understood like just like every how many other right you can be
Queer and you can have the stretch into people of the opposite sex I mean its attraction yeah it’s just whatever you define it like I said I’m doing a solid definition that’s why it’s poor essentially so what’s ahead on today from I think we asked the questions that
Follow after this a little bit so why do people inside and outside of the HP civilian LGBTQ community use of those terms and the effects of it didn’t found kind of discussed about that how it affected community what power do these words have all the way you operate in
Everyday life I think I kind of gave a synopsis over there so I guess now could we put the assimilation of three people cover one of the question again cup what does it mean to be assimilated queer personnel code so i present a question to you guys well i think the
Simulation is well you think about a stimulation is like how you are to simulate it’s me to just be like go along with the status quo so I don’t know I think you think about like the whole gay rights issue or what is there to essentially okay but I mean when you
Think about me recruiting normally see who are the dominating figures of marriage being so when you stimulate into society it’s essentially what I saying like why I want to be this way because this is the majority and this is what what i see is so clearly i should
Like this for myself i can speak from investment at the whole idea from the air to self-assess really i mean especially for queer people of color when you even when you look at the whole idea of like marriage equality are you see or like upper middle class white man
Yeah so I mean that sells those the people that represent that so that’s not all what else is working clever wouldn’t care about me you know we have to worry about being kicked out of our homes and being homeless and being shown by our families and they know that they face
Those issues to be like me you just think about I coats the Holy shoe black gay rights as marriage I mean they’re just a very paranoid to do some some people in the elder people queuing don’t support gay marriage so there’s no far from list like no because I could just say that’s
The simulation then we’re just going along with the flow in a bar with the flow but the question what is it needs to be assimilated as a personal public I mean I don’t think we assimilate just because we are queer people of color obviously you know and then in the black
Community everyone knows you know homophobia is large that’s why they named live in homophobia the flexibility so I think we don’t assimilate at all I mean some with might have to the word would be turned back to our homes or in the workplace some of us don’t have to
Thank God but our I don’t think this some way so after you guys hearing and what are some questions in your mind that you thinking good morning you know what it could be anything our packages everyone but so as a person of color myself and a person who comes from a
Very mixed heritage as myself i preorder killer from Southeast Indiana so I speak French and for someone who has that type of ethnic background and it’s a if I work for if I identify myself as queer gay or whatever how would those factors to you kind of present to a family who
Has a heritage of a person I invite my people don’t do this university that type of hair time people don’t do this that’s that’s that’s the white man’s bra that’s not good luck man from so well how would you say that doesn’t it all like a cup at all like
Comes from like the black shirt doesn’t match wait not necessarily like most of it I won’t pay any coming my charges of being a factor yeah it’s another word I think I’ll shout it out but um no I mean it’s just I think when I think about a
Simulation I think about because we are pure people color so therefore we haven’t worried about our queer identity but we have to worry about our racial identity as well just going back to idea where scars on represented I’ll middle-class white white gay man we don’t look like those people so before
We can identify with me although that we may have a similar fight when it comes to homophobia we said I’ve worried about our intersection of races with that as well a lot of people won’t tell you is that we’re gonna place a lot of racism within the LGBTQ community I come a lot
Of people and people don’t you know you don’t really see them exhale give the hood really I thought you all like unified and skipping down to the rainbow flags right now girl like now heavily on be minority minority of the minority no I support Maya so how do i how do you assimilate
In I can only show what I give me at the time there are no form like I’m your something for LGBTQ is well I’m now going to identify as this person i’m going to leave our race over here because I need to focus more on gay
Rights and just by the other if I’m going to go to a you know black meeting of some sort or rally I have to focus on being a black person most of the times there’s not a space and either those where I could be bold at the same time
Like medium black and you know where that can affect my argument whatever my purpose is in this ground and me being bisexual in the black community could be a problem as to whatever it is it’s like people are trying to fix I’m saying like
You can’t do both I need to have what I do need to fix another and there isn’t a space to do both at the same time before i can honestly well i think that’s a queer person of color Revolutionary stance is working so I actually combat
The fact that there’s not like like one space for at all because I think like it’s not just our problem but it’s everyone’s problem that like it comfy like it comes down to you know like you know like if there’s differences like like like you know this differences are
Multifactorial like you know there’s so many differences in society and like um it’s not just our struggle even though we are like like you know like a minority within a minority in a minority but like you know we ultimately have to you know bring bring everyone like together you know that assimilation is
What he’s saying is that there’s a norm like there’s a normal that it will need to be like there’s a box that we aim and that’s not true because there is like really think about it whether is between heterosexuality is being queer or whether it’s being black and being like
The race there is no door because if you call one person normal then you’re saying the other person is happy so you’re in a question oh yes since we did speak on gay marriage I myself what you see as gaming white upper upper class I myself as a middle class right when you
Wanna be there so I know people who are infected question how do you do i do I would necessarily say I would have been here but I want some type of ceremony or recognition you know and I want the same benefits I want those benefits are those tax deduction if I cremation
After i graduated in a child i want my girlfriend or whoever my significant other has become hopefully still my girlfriend be able to have the benefits that I can’t get the same help quick so let’s see I believe everyone should have those rights now the title and the
Institution of marriage I don’t believe that it’s that we put it up on a pedestal when there’s so many things going going wrong with it without going perfectly so that’s something totally different per se marriage but no but I want the same right to the same benefits
As every other citizen in this country when it comes to me and my significant other so if I die and my girlfriend has no right and no will over what to do with my body or my possessions or anything I think that’s a problem so
That’s what I stand for any kind of gay marriage but i would agree on like just having no rights that’s that’s not an increase of I think I would ever der mean I wouldn’t give me a whole idea I’m sorry oh how I beat up marriage stuff like being about the
History of marriage like me just pretty much just saying that another woman was somebody else property but essentially like so women had no ownership with themselves and with their lives I don’t I mean I’m bringing it out that identifies collectiveness oh that but I mean this marriage is marriage it
Has like I think a lot of things like it has benefits but then it has a lot of it’s not so much but they just like what was I would definitely do it he was sick in the hospital like me never to say the visitation rights because quickly we
Just don’t have that yeah equal still for people that have been married for years partners for years like there’s a case that’s just on the news about him and his part about it he had no saying he couldn’t be in the hospital room he didn’t have said they pulled the plug on
His partner or not and I it’s not fair that for anybody that’s wrong this would push back that’s okay really okay oh and I was saying like well just like to defend my case I’m like look I want to be married just because of like um like love and like
It’s just that like there’s nothing else like and then it’s like like you know like artistic influence yeah that’s what power to go back on there about the assimilation and an idea I think that individuals want to have a colorblind approach to this particular situation they want to say you’re there you’re
Just there but to me when we live in a race conscious world you have to talk about race you just can’t ignore to say we’re going to have a close one approach to it the same way with with people of I racial multi-racial and of different ethnic groups such as myself identified
With me like I did fire again in French and identify with me in Spanish so whenever I speak French or whenever I speak Spanish I want you to respect so I think I think I can understand the whole issue with assimilation oh one of the next questions he is as the assimilation
Assimilated or socialized into the ninth LGBTQ population of bad name well yes and no it’s nice to have it’s nice to be like you because saying like being acknowledged for who you are like I your multi legged identities it’s nice to be acknowledged with it I mean I think it’s
Bad when you think of that like what straight length is like what you should scribes or like we’re responsible mission differently like no I just don’t think that’s that’s like it’s just like the whole idea of like straight privilege like the whole idea of like with white people how they are they
Download everything and they have a privilege over people of color and how I give those white people like always you want something nice well look how the right people will look at the jones likelihood all that other stuff i think that that’s not really how you should go
About that I think this you should want to create reveal spaces for yourself like there’s nothing wrong with that at all if you don’t want to get married because you think it’s a very straight thing to do that don’t do it you don’t want to shack up with somebody
Don’t do it like it’s you don’t have to like you’re clear like you’re supposed to be able to have that freedom to do it differently because you are outside of that dominating norm of heterosexuality so I think that’s what i would say i don’t think only time i would say it’s a
Bad thing if it’s hindering your personal bro for keeping you from being who you are now if assimilating or being socialized is a natural part of large know from from four times before we all have been socialized you know he’s a good boy or a girl where people are just
Exposure with no cars be tough you know to this whatever we are I’ve been socializing assimilated there some sort of way but as long as that assimilation and socialization is and hindering you as a person as your physical been so emotional as long as that’s not keeping
You from being with the person you love that’s not a problem but yeah me and my girlfriend my girlfriend people have seen her she is my gender-confirming female she doesn’t wear the tight-fitting clothes she dresses like a regular like a boy Michael making my backs and molly was everybody nothing
Anyway no hard when she goes home I thought she has to check my mother my mother is a very religious that father would say she’s a member of a black dude sorority so that would be another layer that can tell you about it and she doesn’t want Marco friend dressing the
Way that she just appears so when she goes home she has to put on the tight clothes she has to get her eyebrows and make sure that her hair and everything and that’s a problem socialization assimilation sense that’s her house girl she’s up to something but like with when that stuff happens that’s
When I have a problem with socialism simulation because I’ve seen it happen to people personally I’ve seen her cry after her parents who came in the room and tore her down about are you turning into a man what are you trying to do this is my obligation this isn’t the
Daughter raised when she’s been the same person her whole life they just been refusing to see and they’ve been pushing her know being like this made her join you know the Delta debutante balls and go to everything you do all that stuff when that’s really not hurt so that’s my
Problem with the simulation and socialization because people like that have to go to that was everything didn’t I come super aisle yeah that’s the problem remember when Lee K like this she had wishes on a bus and ship took out like all her clothes or Street low socio-economic the sharpener mom picked
Out for or even when they want to charge what she said no this is not me what bra was talking about is gender policing but when you believe somebody else’s for their gender expression my identity of like this is how we were supposed to look and act salomina supposed to enact stuff like
That’s what problems kind of talking about it so after yes I fired that what are some things that you think are important or simply so I guess according to see you wrote I have a lot of friends who belong to the LGBT community I guess offensive being that your girlfriend
Dresses like a guy when you greet them do you are you expected to hug them because it just like that’s a good i see we are talking about that other time because that’s what she says men don’t know how to come to her with a very feminine face according spaces and I
Look at her clothes and negley agent there monday closed attack her and my husband husband I just hug her girlfriend we will see blah blah they’ll cut me because you know I’m I’m more feminine road in a little tart give her neck but she’s comfortable in her sexuality she she doesn’t get bothered
By that but I guess it just depends on the person she’s cool with you know people you know okay what’s up i had ruined but it again i’m summoning hug her she is a female she like she hasn’t done fresh chefs one of our male friends
He has smiled when he sees her just like he loves me he doesn’t change up his mannerism just because the way she dressed but i guess it depends that’s a good question some females some females are so no so masculine just like her they do they just want to be respect me
Give me the same respect to she would I’m deal but something else they go both ways it doesn’t matter but it depends on the pressure really I think you have to know that’s when it comes down to know 12 in division personally in knowing okay this is the
Type of person they are this is how they want to be a dress that’s a real good question about job I think I’m done is having an open mind like if you have a feeling a person with an open by then you come at someone like you know with
An open mind you’re just like oh you know like or you can i’d like to somebody like acknowledging and waving is speaking to somebody that does one is because sometimes people will look at you and look at her and this the way she looks gonna make eye contact won’t look
At her watch jackass part and that’s more offensive than not doing anything the fact that you asking in your concern and care that speaks a lot as you as a person i’m comfortable enough to hook the person you’re probably comfortable or you probably already know how they
Like to be approached don’t like if you just now leave this person would you really go how are you doing look anyway you might just come like hey how are you and then kind of warm us you had a fail together like it get to know the person is consuming same
Thing to have to hear this from the panel because I’m gonna move on to the next question oh do you guys have any more questions that you want to you know propose to the panel based off of what they say it did they answer the few questions for you you mentioned earlier
Is not about your experience in a sporting life story because that do you have any challenges or you feel different no but then again I think some people kind of just because I don’t openly say oh I baby girls but then again like wild a general conversation
Anyway like you don’t just come up to me like I’m straight like confident that people conversation so if it happens the co-operative conversation than it is I leave I’m sorry peasant can you possibly i have heard of like Oh remembers but that might be because they’re older I
Don’t know just have a kind of a side out towards like oh she was interesting but I don’t know that like in person can have privacy it’s a head-on today how I want to kind of support her in there because of the fact I remember when I
Crossed pi beta sigma one of my line brothers was hoping the game and one of the things that I insured for him was that our season when cows won’t make sure that nobody mess with him no I was gonna kick him or say anything because of the day that was not robotic
As seriously as I take breathing so I want you know support you in there because I think that’s very important for you to be harder for me how to do anything nothing personally my experience I think lightly and general can’t and then we see other than because
Like you know you can’t say you know I care about your let me down all fine no hormones so it’s just an interpretation of like you know I honestly person with my chapter and here i love to be there like that was one of my main concerns I
Crossed my sophomore year and that was one of my friend concerns before I got to mrs. onion garlic I was out of my high school so that was America stars play no I have support of course they’re going to be older people who know art about with their morals and they don’t
Agree that I have no hair swords they know wooden and I don’t even you know address or speak on that in front of them just out of respect for them I don’t want that confrontation but our property property especially and when i’m doing is a business sounds like a
Business that’s not real personal sex life but she does in her room but i will speak for men it is a lot harder for me I’ve had friends here include that have wanted to join mezuzah black Greek life and no because they’re open gay that they’re not going to get
I think that’s something that we need to work on as a community because I know their members in each organization across the country have friends that are home up that are homophobic in each organization and then I have friends who identify as LGBTQ that are in each
Organization so I think it just depends on where you’re at and who you run into you’re going to have those people that know don’t care people that are lukewarm and the people that are just they’re not down for it at all so just opinions so
You know that I know we move on to the next question do queer people of color suffer differently than other ethnic backgrounds do you think I like other ethnic background so for example I would I don’t think and corrective information um someone who is Mexican that is it
Different for them you know for someone who’s didn’t you know would it be different for them I think I think so i think definitely that the culture that you call your own has a really big impact on how you express your queer news and weather and they want to
Assimilate or whether you have to socialize with like for example how she said that her girlfriend she’s a changed when she got home like I have that same experience because some days I like to present like more feminine in some days I like to present more masculine look
With my shirt but it would probably maybe someone of like who’s Filipino bring that hydrangea maybe they will like you know your your culture and your ethnic background does affect you but I don’t think that when you suffer differently on like I guess what I’m trying to say later on vertical planes I
Mean we all like we all suffer that is very good me to say my oppression as a gay black woman is worse than you know somebody else in this room I think that’s fair to be ordered it because I don’t know they lie on my life I looked at me through so
If the struggle is different always say it’s different like I struggled as a queer person then I struggle a look of that person not necessarily Marshall said the black queer is worse than a white queer don’t sound like I’m I trouble more because I’m flat to the
Light purse on my struggle with that necessarily like you show me I got pushed like my on you crazy diamond cut you off but this conversation I kind of had with Jeffrey but my question is that since african-americans are already marginalized and then being up the LGBTQ community you’re being marginalized of
Already marginalized community I don’t know you I don’t think our Angela with them at least the question my mind just how like is there any type of difference that you’re already black and blacks you know you know pay rates you know where we get to live we already have those
Struggles but it does that further because you are the LGBTQ community yeah I would say so I mean like roses saying I got person is the first me and that’s not you generalize depression depression is not does not lived in a hierarchy I like my person or whatever are you
Doing okay I had they say women are at me like like but i would say that because the whole idea of being a queer person color is always living within the intersection of race class sexuality and gender you always have to be conscious of every single thing I have to be
Conscious that I’m a black person at it without my white institution or diamond white society have been conscious that on a career person within a predominantly heteronormative society hannaford omnia remember campus you know it’s just that consciousness always like I was like they go hand in hand like my
Blackness those enhance my career including this vice versa but yeah I would say that it’s not necessarily we suffer differently but we suffer in a way that people still don’t understand people don’t try to see because they just don money when technology you know the whole idea of like even even per
Person within the black community here on campus you know I know that sometimes I don’t feel comfortable going to all black I don’t know like I just um feel exciting and say from the terms by I just don’t like it’s just all that aggressiveness sometimes around me and I
Said that all black you know whatever what I’m saying like I’ve arrested in the sense of like it sterile normative like around others like hyper masculinity and so that I don’t really feel comfortable around it because it’s just like I don’t fit in with that see myself
People I don’t do an example dislike being and I mean I don’t need to buy into cycling to probate like I don’t i mean i’ve been i’ve been in several but still just being around out there like aggressive hyper-masculinity like I just can’t be bothered with it it’s just
Not a place where I feel comfortable it’s not that’s where I feel like I’m doing embrace or what do you not know like I don’t think what’s up Jeff word but it’s just like I I’m not gonna put that like it’s just it’s just too much
Like it’s just and unjust come more well i heated it like we have a friend at design and like he came to he was here last year he went to dust program here on like someone’s really really short jean shorts and he like some weird Mike he looked it really good though
I want to okay but you know he just still have to be aware of bike and i’m just saying this in the terms of I even let me know if I’m gonna wear something like that or whatever Maryland that’s with me but at the same time i used to
Have understanding on the side of where that is not always say where that is where you people getting killed in the street and not even care for like their transphobic violence trans like trans people people rule within different gender identities they have supper all kind of violence that just does not go
Acknowledged by the justice system here at all i make it great they got its turn throwing the rivers and dishes and nobody cares and like there’s even been cases where paramedics have even laughed at a trans person because like oh well yeah why are you dressed like a woman
But then you have male genitalia like they won’t even help them so that’s a whole nother layer of of just like violence doesn’t go acknowledged I’m so how do you feel about the Beijing Olympics I know I didn’t I’m Michelle challenge minor oh what’s that I’m feelin the track runner yeah
You’re making women yeah make a who is actually intersects that’s the part that’s going out I was used to be paradise and in her village like she was right as a woman but she was very very excellent in the Olympics they lent her a register as a woman but she wanted
Like all these medals and one she warned the fundamentals like no I come back she too masculine shadow at the pants at that time they trying to strip everything at first I was like you know um wait so I forgot like the final like verdict was it just like you know she
Did have like some males oh my god awful shoes a chance or they raised her as when she had both oh ok ok well I’m at first when I opened at first when I like heard about it I didn’t know like what the thing because i was just like look
To begin with like you shouldn’t like you know cut off like anything like what if your child is born into like the world like that like that is just like so wrong because you don’t even know like like what they’re gonna identify as like when I actually like something to
Themselves and I find themselves like that’s just like so like messed up and like you know um it’s kind of like my own like thing like I was I’m influenced by this patriarchal white institution that we live in and like you know um like I was just like oh well like I
Don’t like there’s something like a little up but then I was just like I had to check myself and I was just like well like you know like that should that should be that should be okay that you know I don’t know what else to say yeah
You know babe people really should take if you have it take at least one women study class event a lot of these terms that are getting thrown around you like oh I just what I mean that’s like Marcus said there are lucky you don’t know that
Are born with both genitals or you know have a certain level of testosterone or estrogen in they you know deemed as a female has a child and those are the people they end up coming out later in getting these on gender changes and people like they’re sick they’re wrong
With her no you’re supposed to be you know a man or a woman or whatever the case might even actually at birth they should have been doing the other sex and that’s the problem and biology this corner right now is about you know doctors you know- babies female or male
Wing and actuality they come out later in life and come transgender and then people are talking of them like they have mental problems or all this other stuff when actually if ever they should have been like just a Dean intersex like there are people out there like that so
I don’t think I think I was wrong nation except her mother and that’s the thing about education it’s out there for us to educate our substitute oh I comment okay I wasn’t saying like you saying about the Sun phone I had a friend jets he came up here don’t Eastern breaking he’s
On a warrant sir well he was sooo that mortar and I know if I think I’m enhancing how evaluated him a team so he’s out he’s proud and if I talk with him and he came here I guess because it’s not that many people who are you
Know as a lure and proud or they within an opportunity not get about three as much anything like so before except to handle some people right well I don’t know the Russian exception not that I guess very interesting how people were afraid to accept it as I’m flying with
Right if you touch them you’re not going to come on it kind of stinks because it’s like I just think it’s so stupid like we’re so stupid sometimes like and that’s like that sounds negative but like its true like some people I want to move on to
The next question our blacks that are homophobic hypocrites do you feel then what do we think black people are homophobic hypocrites yeah what do you think about keep the black people that are homophobic do you think that they are to be critical yeah how barely hit on someone else with minorities yeah
Yeah definitely I feel like it’s rigged for equality and your for you know fighting for the struggle you in the fight for everybody struggles I want that’s what I’m saying we all have a struggle whether you know our personal favorite struggles financial stuff unless your sister’s education or
Whatever whoever it may be and feminism the people don’t really realize this is just a quality frog a quality for our point ago right so I mean people black people like to think in a sense I have friends i think you know i have parents or you know older adults of my family
That think that being you know k is wrong and then you’re kind of run but how can you compare the gay rights movement just so much movement it’s not the same and then that margin i agree it’s not but then it is yeah i’m saying is the civil rights leaders can also
Fight for yeah yeah well I but I said to my iron when she when she said that to me I was saying that like well I dream Lord our differences have a missile misuse like miss miss used and miss maimed in the service of separation and confusion something like that it’s like difference
Is our differences like and it’s all like what you said is like all of the same level you know I mean if you’re talking about like the gay rights movement a lot of people like to say it’s lame if not just saying that cuz it’s just out it all revolves back to
Around the idea of intersection like it’s not like me fighting for racial equality is not the same as before boss because I mean we still are going to send a spy / rachel Bobby you know why you can still benefit Marshall from like white privilege and they have access to
Education is a breakfast I don’t have but I want to get into this idea like this question our black or homophobic hypocrites I think people have this idea to and even though the name of this form is homophobia in the black community people like to say that black people
More homophobic and the rest of the rest of the world a rest aside that’s just not true the world is homophobic like black people or not in here even though we may experience on more and since level whereby I mean I can’t speak for everybody but the same time like me
That’s not like don’t believe that when people say especially to go outside of your right and so I like you’re just so nice like the world sonic oh yeah also if I think that it’s not fair to say that because I’m a minority I now was ok so I
Hate when people say like you make being queer messes up the black community are like black people have enough problems already right I think we’re on target isn’t helpful and so in the reverse respect I don’t think it’s fair for a heterosexual black people till have to
To have to feel forced that Oh since I minority I must accept and all love all people of course I want you to buy the disparity place that burns it’s not fair for you to place it on me like it’s not fair for you to place all the black
People’s problems or meeting like all what it’s my fault because I’m create I’m making it worse that seems like me like I don’t get exposed to like gay or queer until I was like low in my clinical work and I didn’t understand like what like different and so he raised baptist
Christian is a little bit difficult because i think i see artists are male and the box and heterosexual relationships and so I guess reason I’m here today to understand and to get that purse baby because I’ve never really had like ten boys cut is sorry and click on
The college plate I remember one day it was like coming out or something like that and i was a freshman and people that brandy story today and they’re like oh you should come because i was afraid because I didn’t know what that meant and she was like well no support mean
You know like it’s not that I don’t support you said I don’t understand and I mean time you’re saying and my placement I was raised like that I just need more exposure to understand like what they mean and I think that it was really cool before her like push me off
Because it was that I wasn’t supporting her I also agree that everyone should have equal rights it’s just that that was something new to steal and like me coming today you guys voices is really exposed to make me understand but i understand i’m telling you island just say like it’s not like sometimes
Like back to ocean Omar said come with everything with compassion and love but if you meet somebody who had the bad taste in their mouth from a previous partner is your issue job and your responsibility if you are identifying as clear or as a feminist or anyone who’s
Trying to fight for equality to break that barrier hear and understand well firstly we’re are hey that’s the first thing you know our fans both we awfully blood y’all piss yellow quality is like a big thing do you like people i think that like you know we’re not a part of
The same like human species like you know races just like so socially constructed like you don’t you don’t even know that it’s like you know sometimes it has it a little bit of biologically well i believe like other people can believe different things i think that it has a biological
Influences everything like comes from Africa but like I think that like um like you know like it like it a black person like a black woman can I can have more genetic similarities to like a white man what’s like long like I know whatever like I have lower nice to
Expand I have more of a chance of having same genetic makeup as this young lady right here then I do it and give african-american person in a room and that’s what rate has no biological that’s basically that’s from the net was socially constructed and s we have the work in the community is
Worth quality she had a question yeah as far as this question of that you guys said on my channel class right now and one of the books there was a is a man an Asian man who was heart of the queer community had written about what it’s
Like to be both the minority and queer in that kind of community and he was talking pretty much said like in the name of conforming and socialization he says that he’s noticed that more people or minorities are homophobic and for people from the LGBT community are
Racist and I just wanted to know what you guys thought about that like coming from coming from a minority men who was who is weird he said that minorities within now he said usual minorities are more homophobic and then people we have to be to community or more races in the
Name why conforming socialization they like kind of like not really like talked about white and bull no he was just he was talking about from his perspective what he’s realized eating gay and bi mean oh yeah okay i guess those guys have been talking about my majority I
Don’t get stupid majority represent the place of the community or amazing classes those questionnaires and is my people I mean you know it’s true because it’s true I mean even as a career man of color like I couldn’t show you just like some experiences that like Dylan books like white queer man
They approach you kind of advice adamantly explicitly but i will say like something else that thank you like their minority too so they already have oh I identify with yeah and it’s not good at but like even even with that but like they will they will like hyper
Sexualized you want to have his idea of you that’s a black person I know you’re gonna you’re gonna do this in that to me like I had a friend like even said like this one who says I’m really like sex was I oh it’s not like was it what you
Posted an apology a lot of people feel like any another issue of toppers and makes it worse and so if you’re already in a minority I’m fearing you’re fearful of having any other outside factors on top of that I’m glad I have fears of any other game black or clear of black
Person being in the community because that’s more trouble I’m saying so if I’m in the LGBTQ community I have fear of you know in the other binary that’s black boys Asian people coming in because I just complicates it more needs to be the queer people have a struggle already black people show
Already the other coming in makes it worse is compounded your project that might be why you have more people that are races and clerical do you think that there’s like any of all this ignorance and backlash that we get from the whole black community you
Think that has anything to do it like it seemed okay I guess it seems like teaching we don’t really raise our children and we don’t really expose them to it as much as other cultures may expose their children so I think that went a lot like what a lot of us grew up
And fern st anthony’s hyper sexualized images especially my whole point is especially like about the whole lesbian thing cuz i have friends who will not talk to a gay guy but they find out I’m dating girl it’s like oh hey what’s up they know like do you think that our
Hands we think that our like radii i guess i can’t believe owes the question that I want to feel like there’s there’s something really for critical about you want to shine one part of this community but you you’re still kind of shutting the other part but you think it’s okay
Because you think is something that you no they body yeah when you fill out I also put it right really we can’t you’re my relationship can be taken seriously because our baby and I think that has to do is live in a patriarchal society that’s the main in the body yeah because
I know you might run without other like people friend of oh you’re gay okay so the graph would look like that she want to come with us and it’s not that type of party homeboy industries from the LGBT Center she kind of explained the drop to a lotion type of thing where it
Takes only one time one drop of a man knows something other than beer before he’s up you gave his off-limits no need to look at anything else he broke too close to event I’m done no but for a woman to be taken seriously or to even be accused chest makeup no worries I
Can’t just tell you Oh what I like women and I only dated one girl no that’s not too that’s not serious you guys did a whole bunch of before it get serious until you do that I’m going to assume you’re a face and you’re fun to mess
With I mean so I think that’s the type of minds that people have a lot of time like it’s cool for girls to be messing around with girls because they’re not really gay they’re just having fun like they don’t take it serious versus would have died i’ll have to look at another
Guy wrong oh snap home okay go ahead I just think a lot of it goes to have by the way Joshua’s in our society what L just like email time boys growing up but if a boy decided to put on a shirt like that would be my problem so prevalent in
Privileges masculinity yeah like the general I just how much stricter forgot that’s where is anything to do though I’m know where people will talk about Brittney Griner her greater rhino run on Twitter and junaid Brittney Griner for this amount of money it’s like she’s personally extremely disciplined that
She’s trying to like just because she decides to be more masculine now all of a sudden is this whole different like she just came out so I’m gonna work from that to how to be an ally Oh what are the questions but that would be is what
Does it need to be an out loud to the LGBTQ so um I think being a lie it’s so much more than just something about center and grab a button so much more than that is you need to be open-minded you have to have like this
Desire to truly like care for the people were in this community you can’t just say no hate marriage equality for everybody let you have to you have to work towards it and you also need to be open to the fact that it’s not just a community of just gay just clear just
Lesbian people like you’re transgender people there’s people who are intersex there’s people who are gender non-conforming like there’s all these elements and you need to be open to that to be a liar the next question one asks is what is the most important what is the importance of me because you want
Some moneys for to say anybody in this room you’re trying to get a job in for some odd reason regardless for your person and your dating so men and women you don’t get the job because of the first picture day or you know I wish you identify as you want somebody to come
And strike in March with you like okay some some ESEs paycheck this isn’t fair who she dates is none of your business as long as she’s doing her job adequately and up sustaining some sort of matters that’s why I supporting via a lie because you got to push yourself in
Other people’s shoes like if it was you how would you want to be treated it looks like Tedesco sub tree is how you want to be treated and get people the respect that you would want as the individual the Golden Rule yeah really it really is in my if
You generally care about people you would support them so anyone here the conscience of my friend if you support me as a person you support me being a non non heteronormative female I love homie ll min I love everybody you support that person and what they stand
For and you back them all the way back towards that don’t English party don’t half-ass they say you got a buddy said oh yeah how about why I did it and then when you hear somebody making crude and lewd comments not saying anything well senator was your but no but you’re still
Not saying nothing about it that’s not being a lie you might as well take that one off and throw it in the trash it retweeted ignorant stuff I like like she actually just talked about like that’s not being our I don’t water minded things back I mean it’s harp it now i
Would say because I mean a lot of times people assume like you know the birds of a feather flock together type of thing like all year you’re an ally a mature always with the with the queer people sure so now you kind of got that judgment big happiness I mean it’s hard
Getting Alan always lack of heart my god it’s hard being gay of China what is the importance of listening to someone in the LGBT population I think then see it just talking about and I think that we’re talking about how I like that but we also have talked about
The problematic stuff that allies can do too when it comes to life like how we understand like if you have human wasn’t just weird but I you know I had to try to get somebody together on Twitter and tell them like that’s not being I I like
You have to tell because allies like to do this thing where they still like to and not saying at all but in this just straight you in general they still like to do this thing where they try to police how you should be gay and how do
You seem like when people saying another it’s like you know better the first thing proper terminology when you tell somebody are you saying you just need to come out the closet that is wrong you don’t tell anybody bit because first of all if you are not within this can we
Even if you are in this community to I don’t think that she just tells language I just need to come out but it’s coming out it’s such a difficult process and it has to be it’s a very personal process as well but if you do not identify
Within the queer community and you say to somebody you just need to come up a closet first of all you’re being homophobic because you are oppressing me with your heterosexual privilege by telling me how I should be in how I should identify and how open actually I don’t have to explain
Oh you an explanation about Who I am what I do just like even if I identify was growing up and I love both sexes if I want to leave the boy to stay or woman the next it doesn’t matter like i don’t need to explain it to you but with
Allies the thing is the importance of listening is just just sitting down and listen to what I ever say that tell me like what I just think you should do this I think that you should live this way no but listen to me but in those the
Same way for if you are outside of the black community and you have a comment about as well black people’s needs to do this or or whatever else and you don’t identify as black he needs me quiet but you don’t have a stands or a site to
Tell us how much to fix our problems or how we should how we support to do identify him or whatever I’m a firm believer and clear problems need to fix our clear people black come fix my black people so you know when you call yourself an ally make sure that you’re
Not impressing me with your strength courage either because that’s a very real thing that people do when I say that out loud because they still want to tell you oh you know well I think you should need this kind of day or you know
I know a lot of things like a lot of stairs have white gave me is like oh we all know OSFI all cuz I can shop and we’re like I mean sometimes kind of see how much a movie or whatever by the same light is just like you still have these
Misconceptions in these notions that we are all the same kind of people I guess I get into the idea lifestyle like your first well like when I was uh when I was in high school everyone uh I’ve always known that I was like different and I
Always had like my interest and like my mom was always like yeah like what like what like teenage boy list like looks at America’s Next Top Model and like all of that here now huh and so then I’m oh well so then I’m I mean I’m just saying
That everyone is fact that I was like a gay wolf boy gay guy or whatever like my whole my whole life and like I didn’t really get it until like when it was like starting to get kinda bad was like an eighth grade and then like like I
Think I like what you were saying because um you’re saying that like it’s like the your opposing your straight privilege or whatever type of privilege you think you have over me like you’re imposing the type of privilege over me like in saying oh that’s who you are and
I didn’t come out that way like that’s not how I came out like came out this past summer and identify his trans like and that’s what I that’s what I folks a pooled identifying as you know and like like everything like happens for a reason and like you know like it’s it’s
All natural you know like ultimately just bring it back to the question all these before because sometimes I personally no one’s really ask me any questions about my life how are you doing ocean Roger struggles how did that fill in high school going to it’s not good but it
Feels good to this house when eggs knowing that they’re asking with attention to listen and that’s with anybody’s problems you know I’m saying if you just have a genuine care I’m like oh yeah that was a shock like I go in my life expecting no one to ask me
Questions I don’t want to sit down how you doing how was how was the struggle you know or obstacles and out of that so what is it shows that you care and everybody needs that person to know that they care because that stops you from harming it self harm somebody else
Harming anything and have a negative thoughts did you just even if you don’t know that person like that your best friend not that one person just like and how how that shorewood and exercise did you know yeah yeah actually she was shoot first and then oh oh oh I want to
Reiterate what just said about being an ally listening and also even if you have a speculation of someone being gay what someone has told you to the game they may not be out to everyone and it’s important not to out them but if a su Li day that I witness is quoting incident
She told her story about how we should get going where and everybody trusts people I get hurt somewhere you knew that she was gave it in one day so bright I literally screamed across the room about her being engaged she wasn’t out and it like it’s important for them
To come out on their own and not for you to break them up the box i guess and even our people speculate certain people even the black community whoever very gay let them come out let them have their process their story don’t tell it for them and the nothing
Coming out some people don’t like that whole phrase together like I wanted people some people feel like I didn’t have any questions come out to this is how I came out the womb like I don’t know what I hope brace rd so that’s another thing to keep in mind that
Everybody agrees with that time or again come on process and you have to come out p maximizing sales that they’re gay and they asked amount of people that importance of the lives of being a man i want to take any further than that they might just want that poster with people
About their secret everybody loves the world’s just I’m brand I just don’t want to ask that you mentioned earlier than I like probates and stuff like that you don’t feel comfortable it’s very interesting that you’re saying what can we do to make that a better experience
Of what do we doing now to make it a even worse experience thank you for asking Matthew I love oh yeah it got support to sing this place 2.2 soon as they’re good like no other fraternities or black boots training on this campus update any
Type of event like this and it is really a problem that is to be faced period because people still come in to resume that i want to be Greek and can’t just because of our sexuality and they can contribute one Durst organization but have it gets like this job and this is
The first step y’all see them on a wharf it’s the paint that they have my shirt by the way so I mean I don’t know lozano I mean I’m not part of life I mean do see what do you say i think it was even more like the hyper-masculine anything
Could you like to do porches on that like what you say I said I’m not trying to be offensive to anybody but I just know like for example like like some of the chance that I may hear some of them they have like for example like I think
I’ve heard like a high gay before or something like that or they too sweet for me whatever else like this is like but I understand like I guess it’s like a show I mean I guess probation show right but it’s still offensive because it’s like to me it’s just like you’re
Just exercising your masculine right I mean I think it’s silly but at the same time that’s what you want to do that’s what you like to do I mean dutch shell but I was saying I don’t feel comfortable around there I think like if you’re saying that kind of stuff so
Clearly I’m not welcome there wait I was like what I just sayin like all lit late too sweet for me or whatever else is just like even like it dislike being like I don’t need more like it yeah it makes me an ocean if you get the girls
Were like whatever makes you all say sorry but life yes yeah but it’s just like dance like that makes is so uncomfortable as first of all that’s like that is that language it’s like this so vibrant to make this is like well they are punched in the face by you
Are in time like I don’t know my not good day yeah I don’t know he’ll feel like I mean clear with you those times I’m clearly not welcome because it’s not sexual identity my queerness why would I go Mike this just doesn’t make sense to me so they’re
Going to go somewhere I was just a grand with him like I guess the example what he’s trying to say okay me and I’ll show them both in some of like reading stories on campus new brother so I just like if a pay per sorority was to copy
In my sorority oh the Savior’s are decayed there the case sorority because I’ll in the sorority that’s what Pratt’s due to the frats like you know oh they’re they’re sweet and they’re gay because they’re not us so like I said it’s the competition happening with it
Is it like to welcome to concern I’m Vanessa anybody in the organizations are get people to come to the program and watch the probate or pay money to go to your parties or come to your forms and then they hear things like that it’s like okay hold up I don’t agree that
That’s that you know I’m not in that lifestyle it’s offensive no and I think your inner I think the whole issue in the state is even with the first questions that we have terminology you have to understand the power of language I could use like dunno understand the
Power that language hands and look at applause unless I like this violent like like that’s just something that’s very like aggressive very much art yeah like it just seems like I’m not gonna buy going to me now I mean you know I may be exaggerating sign our can be punched in
The face but I’m just saying like it’s still like that kind of stuff in class to me that that is like not welcoming to me out of the norm so I was enacted that’s not saying you’re thinking so interesting yeah you actually gonna show painted but I’m you’re doing a little
Distance and it’s like the f yo fret dog gets caught do-do-do-do out of the watch this was okay i had to check somebody might order bro okay because they’re like they’re like a group of like white people outside like right well it doesn’t matter it like like you know
Like they were just like you know like oh like that’s so gay like a nudist being loud I was just trying to study okay so then I had to go out in the hallway and I had to be like okay first I was like nervous I was like I was like
Where’s doc like I’m trying to study like and then I said I had to tell them like and then like you do not say gay because like there are so many other things you can say like gay is a stiff like you’re using gay and synonym for
Stupid and like that is not like appropriate like that we’re talking about probation I think that that like my analyzer comes stuff i think it’s like it’s like to cheer like like point out somebody else’s like masculinity or lack thereof but I mean I’m just are just in the best and it
Just revolves back around to patriarchy of how a man or sociologically then we are we always have the police each other make sure that we are always handled as if we if we are not being me and then we are not you know essentially i guess i’m repeating yourself whatever oh but on
This plan like that’s just how being socialized to believe that you know if you are not always displaying your masculinity thing in there and do your problematic so like how does help to say about to know how you feel then you get emasculating to being challenged but i
Don’t I wouldn’t necessarily just throw it all those Greeks because come on the other two me two things you don’t need a man up or you know you act like little baby boy yeah no it’s not it’s not a quick thing it says so yeah that’s what
I thought like I was saying like men are socialized to always always always display masculinity in a sense of maleness because if you don’t do that and who are outside of that thing the problem she had a question I was hiding the problem is that a lot of people come here and they
For guidance and leadership school years on campus but if you don’t discuss in the community and people are going to care about that like like this discussion about homophobia like this is the that was topping the black meeting you can see what I would turn out here
Like no one’s here where’s ever yet like you know how exactly a social man you know one who cares how the dishes so I think that I think that’d be a member of a Greek prepare your sorority it’s your responsibility to put these issues on before front am I commend you guys do
That like what is your response to all issues that are relevant in between me and I’m just it’ll get interpolant and we’re going to go on to next group quick huh we get your question I mean I just don’t want to say that for example for homecoming and stuff like there is be
Kind of like moderate our language and stuff like that but you notice kids and so I guess if we can moderate this is that we do events like programs to make certain content of it you feel more comfortable than that something that we need to exercise a bit
About and just put into action so I just want to apologize on behalf of I guess NPDC or a bit of me the power that you give language like he’s coming if you can fight you said if we can if you often door for he isn’t open to Ave everybody you don’t never
Notice into that I this may potentially see something great you all can add something but if a if you saying something like whoa I’m not going to try but it’s like that’s it that’s free moving on to the next one on living the identity we talked a lot about you know
Doing active listening as a social return to put that back actually this newest addition Alyssa that’s what I mean but oh but now we’re going to move on to talked about living identity what does it mean to live a to live a LGBTQ identity and not a lifestyle so before
We ask somebody so when you hear the term gay lifestyle or letter to myself what is that means i don’t hear commodities anybody like make me a solid definition of what a game so like a lot of random Hooker drones that’s the ways I guess it did interpret
It for me like talking people from the outside in I would say you know like okay let’s just don’t last and we always have it takes a lot of different people you’re doing a lot of no it’s not a drugs like cocaine heroine so that is raised up one shot do it in
Order of late my friend Gophers not let you go sing I’m not without a dude but how did you say from my perspective like being a Christian when you know as Christians were like we’re told that were supposed to live a Christian lives that which is to be christ-like and do
Things like Jesus Christ so when I hear a life side it makes me think like people who identify with LGBTQ are supposed to do with those stereotypes of wood society exactly tell them our life is like I’m perpetuating so so so so I think that’s where it’s part of a come
From because we have this idea at least at least what I’ve seen people i know is that as a gay man gay man suppose we’ll come up every man you see and touch them and do all the other type of stuff so when you said gail i thought that’s for
Surviving come out is like the lifestyle that society portrays is closed bjs ether okay she said oh when I think of LGBTQ identity first I think that I baby I think the smarter being treated XL can live how they don’t want it you know this is who I am and living a
Lifestyle just be unless who are going to interact 12 I wasn’t saying I think a lot of people place these stigmas identity so it’s like to be a lesbian but you only be like masculine that has to happen that way you can’t be like like you can identify something like
Girl little white boys you can’t be in between and there’s just like all these stigmas that I don’t know I never thought about this question because I didn’t think for myself that’s what I was just how to handle okay there should be a correlation between how you identify
Your lifestyle everyone then actually I was growing up that I thought it was just a lot of confusion because that’s how I was brought up like you know gay people are confused and they don’t really know what they born they’re not listening you know what God is telling
When we’re going off the path and all the stuff but when I told my parents who I was dating there was this whole we don’t accept that lifestyle and to me it was like there is no lifestyle change because I’m still the same person I’m not doing anything different so in
School and organization by doing all the things i want to do today it’s somebody different so I don’t really think I think it’s hard to define because there’s nothing really I mean there is something to define like you’re involved in wise and I guess you’re actually what
You do but really it’s all kind of our kind of feeling lifestyle has its shorts like you could shows to live that my supply continues because it was like I mean put in something like live a healthy lifestyle like you just like anybody else you know shoes demeaning you are you sorry you
Are interested so really this is why smart like lifestyle goes I feel a lot of people have an issue if they know like one clear person than they assembly like everybody else who’s square with that person in high school we had a guy who came out and when he
Turns 16 started going to gay clubs we can post pictures of himself from my friday saturday nights dressing up you know like putting makeup on dresses Kesha and stuff like that and getting really really do up like don’t up and everything and people from my high school started viewing that is how all
Gay people want uncle would go out on the weekends or how they dress or what they did so like just from that one person for my one high school that I feel like all those people from my high school now like that’s what they correlate with a queer lifestyle now
That to you I mean because my advice like you say the perfect like how you said an implied a choice because you say wife stabbed I felt like sending tarea myself and healthy life solution to this oh we’re going to live the same line but I don’t like the time
To meet the terminal focus your mind minus a leg I had chosen matter whatever um but at the same time like you’re in social my identity by your soda and essential part of me by saying i hope this you does live this way for this
This is when you tell me you are but you don’t know so it’s like when you say lifestyle you’re not allowing less you you’re not allowing people to express themselves in a way that they may not that you know without sure your stereotypes of being placed upon them I
Don’t live the same way the Marcus design the design is Superboy sequoia does he know we’re in a common setting we still you know conjugate backgrounds that may have different beliefs or whatever else because if I could never posed as people on the street people to straighten Weber lifestyle no so I’ll
Keep it under the sideline you have identity like I am Who I am you should respect that so don’t say lifestyle I didn’t just because the very first time I actually dating world in high school and so a lot of people felt like I was switching into something
Different like oh well you suddenly came into it some people who would maybe didn’t always feel like they were into her since they were little this cook something that you know I I finally grew into in high school but that doesn’t mean that I just be on BS it and I
Decided to do this because it’s a fun thing to high school that doesn’t when I decided to act upon what my didn’t he is doesn’t change my kidding me and I think that I caught a lot of flack for that because they don’t take it serious I
Where you were and you know dating girls when you were literally weren’t do understand the other when you were little I stopped to do an anything I was little boy or girl wise you know so how can you I got no just caught flak for it because you’re only well you didn’t do
Anything with girls are high school a lot of people wonder well how how much did you do because that might not be qualifying game you can I about insects if nothing I don’t like little access I’m so you don’t ask people who are straight oh you have a search to a
Girlfriend I’m not really together with crazy questions on that so like how dare you and so my identity by trying to qualify it as well you must have done this that other you must impede her by this age that sounds crazy those comments oh yes cuz we’re trying to move
It along the other things how will your brutal to the next question oh how how has been a member of the LG huber population or community affected your relationship with your family friends and professional labradoodles sequoia i guess the strange can separate me from a lot of my family because a lot
Of them don’t they don’t believe in it they still see it as like this lifestyle and it goes against what god says it’s a sin and it’s all this is matt and they like from for me saying that I’m queer they see me as having switched like I
Don’t I don’t know where that switched April I don’t know what my face change I don’t know but they see it as me having like taking on something else and so they don’t they don’t see me as the same person they don’t associate with me and all these all these frivolous things and
It’s like come to the point where I had to told some members of my family because I don’t want to lose that relationship and when it comes to friends a lot of my friends are more accepting more so in college with back home if I come from a really
Conservative state a really conservative city where it’s like my friends they’re like yeah you’re queer but let’s not talk about it let’s not say anything in public we don’t want we don’t want to touch me flags we don’t want any of these you might be confused so let’s not
Let’s not put it out there like that just just hold keep it inside and professionally I think it in the future that it will affect me giving a career because especially with being with Tupac it’s like I put that on a resume stop me from getting a job look I said
That I remember I was a memory that is so true because I i recently like early last semester I do like I’m applied like some places downtown and like I didn’t know if like the fact that i put like q POC on there like I didn’t get any like
It responses but like I think I’m a capable worker like I mean that’s what I second that that’s what like you know you should like you know focus so I’m not necessarily are you serious okay well I’m I don’t even know like we’re doing started just like oh just one
Family Frances I’m going to first Mike especially in here mrs. and what you move out into not talk about that okay well I um like I think that uh I don’t know I didn’t really I wasn’t I wasn’t comfortable with like my blackness or like my queerness um and
Just like coming here like I’ve always liked had like I just love art you know like I just always loved art and so then um I just think that like ever since I came to school like I like I’ve always liked back in this like way that I
Didn’t think like anyone else would really understand and like I think that like I kind of little bit a little bit more like like the way that I should think but I remember it’s gonna really hopefully place like you know in my advantage but um I think that I have
Like strong ambitions and I have um like what kind of like revolutionary things that I want to do like I have like things like big like positions and thoughts like what I want to do with my life and I think that like just recently I kind of like just kind of started to
Realize yeah like you know I actually can be capable of like maybe like doing this like and um I guess like just like coming to college like I’ve been socialized in like my my black in queer community you know and you guys like love me like so it’s just looking
Unhappy about that so um uh yeah oh no sorry guys yeah I personally my friends friends it’s been a creep I came out when I was 17 I can touch my best friend she took a whale whatever it’s hard at first we like it’s that it’s been a really really like rough passage
With me she has never like real life been buddy coke or anything like that to Magna show me like she’s always so nice just coordinate she didn’t really understand it she cried it’s thing like from heart whatever and it’s coming those things too i don’t know i don’t know i can’t speak for
Advice the students but i guess when you’re little like your family they may say something hey it’s the surest thing we’re but it’s fine you this pilot it’s just like I guess do and I went and actually like know what they said what they said I always wondered that like I
Wonder like um if no like it’s just that I don’t know if you are very purpose like people know that you’re gay you know so that’s kind of a lot of things like my mom is always the less you always have to like go off on my
That’s like saying stuff about me away where else like that so I to my mom like she knows like our relationship is pretty good who likes me like hey did you mean you guys with my mom like doing the paper but like she it’s in it in his
Beautiful to have that kind of support system does I mean I’m very spirituality guy so I I think I like that’s a blessing to have her support or whatever else next she just tells me how time to like how you grow in detail what are you watching like I support Michael Sam like
I have not home come out to my thing that not set them down and thanksgiving where me said I put have a good day um find something like I going on Francis been pretty good i mean i did hit a rough patch with my friends in high
School i stopped talking for months and i was at a time like that was her darkest like she was building on my close friend so you know as teaching people you don’t have replicates that that scariness oh by the way of somehow I losing those relationships and although like I had
Enough for him to come out to my family or whatever else happening there’s still that fear factor to lose I love my family so much but at the same time I know that they’re not wouldn’t understand i don’t think they were necessary like shun me completely but I
Know like they just wouldn’t understand it and I mean I don’t know my family’s like really shaken sarcastic or so like they’d like to let me make a comer so to make me mad where but it’s like sometimes when I hero since I can’t wear the same things it’s like you know oh
Like it’s frustrating but if it’s cool I just feel like I’m drowning I feel like this is my wife like my mom system hey you just explain every comfortable whatever else and do whatever I say I talk to it but that’s how I am with my
Family everybody my family but my mom is my I love her today ever since I came out my freshman year and had my first girl but she’s like I misciagna it’s okay you know that’s my robot my dad we had a rough patch at first like I’m a
Daddy’s girl so in Empire know like me and wants to find out that his daughter likes other females you know whatever but a he’s cool now he’s men on girlfriends he no talks astrophytum talks to talk to me on the phone or whatever II don’t make jokes I think his
Him joking is a way for him to kind of like deal with it you know but after so I accept that for what that is my siblings on my siblings are cool I love him Annette except where I’ve a brother in the state pen and this hurt me and
It’s really recently it just really hurt me because I’m one of the only siblings at all my siblings that writes him go to visit him do anything and after we just had a lot of things in 15 sep tember here on the leather he converted to
Islam as most people who made you know goin to the prison system and you owe me this long letter is talking about what are you going to give me some nieces and nephews be fun doing what I was gay but this isn’t right I want you to live a
Holy and righteous life sorry I’m a Baptist and i am a christian and i would say that proudly and i would say that I do girlfriend and if you want to talk to me about that and how that works later you can but a that’s another thing charge I
Went to church together since I was a little sometimes about myself my parents they weren’t average church doors but I will always have a great honor or somebody cousin in one day I was on a church in the pink my pastor actually caught me out because of lack many where
I’m from it’s kind of small such a small they read everybody and you know that you cause to the author at the end anybody’s having enough trouble with divided financial financial troubles relationship troubles sexual issues I marriage was to be with a woman and the
Woman with the men so that was kind of my my own catacomb as for accommodation in my spiritual beliefs because that took me away from the church for a long while I was like a senior kid so that was something but now i’m back and printed on professional I haven’t had
Any trouble and I actually like to say orange elusive see on camera stand busting our boxes negative report unless ambystoma if you don’t never been here she’s 14 they marched with me in the park array so that is shown in mizzou i love this to me because they aren’t
Ready making shots have unity and make sure everybody’s including so I mean it’s a guarantee it’s a certain people you know before you somewhere I like to come to the point where I’m grown I’m 22 years old if you love you care about me I’m not going to leave it
Absolutely explain you about my life in my choices that I make you care you’re going to ask me you’re going to the interstate but it’s good and bad with interesting because my most normally doesn’t know comical to me time based out till my family when I’m dating
Somebody unless is Oh became cities let me introduce you to the family sometimes I’m ashamed of it it’s olives his girlfriend when his girl from co so relevant to you know long-term life but her mom’s ones people when I have a frisco friends like oh like she she told
Me to like are you dating phony phone i’m at the most i’m working on grocery store she asked me because I guess I my phone off and I left this fellow some thought such a message Dana well cuz of the ground best friends who had no
Justin second grade but then it kind of went to another little best friend well can I spend a grow-op you know I’m a stupid she was like I have two months actually but that’s another story so I guess that’s helpful as to why she using something like yeah that’s
Profound with their name some nails France during high school I saw for his own high school was a sheep to put it lightly they were hella bogus they stretched out one on one of the news straight out of eight a member of freaking high school by healing
Approached me by I was in my library those when the ground starts shaking on the ground why don’t have to dating this girl why not like crazy person so I was just forgetting the coonery at that point from there plans that i like both plus a bit cool
With I’m we weren’t in the same circles and they were all the same you know I know you gossips becoming help with this church event that I’m having but uh I think I could not stay at the house is something this time every summer we would spend the night at his house
Before the church to pronounce the problem now is if you do come you make sure you don’t have sex on my mama’s house that’s a hella crazy like wet or can you make any news for her to come to me and this isn’t some random girl some
Random ignorance this is my post about Fran my team my best friend she shake him to both of us was like it’s a popular child to like not sleep near each other or it may be gold changing adapter life are you for it I sounded crazy until today that whole little
Circle that we used to mess with it’s not to say because they always gon shave her way because she they always want to show you hard way though and they do it in front of me like that’s okay and I’m like you do know that that’s my ex
That’s hella shady and if also our friend like and they think it’s okay around me because the front date a guy at the time that it’s like okay we’re cool is also mentioning type and I’m like not about Africa shade I think it’s ridiculous anymore but my other friends that are
Kind of like they don’t talk about it I don’t know if they don’t talk about the offal is relevant or because I’m comfortable about it but I would be a better place for them I feel like it shouldn’t bright people like I think that’s the problem with our society we
Have to label every single thing and we’re all different people who are different in for someone to label a person’s transition through their relationships or whatever it’s not your business at the end of the day they should have I thought there should be afraid to replace it it’s just some
Person if you cared so much about that specialized go to them in private and talk civil body and other things but I don’t think that should be afraid and I mean I think knit people missing visibility is very over like this tomorrow is kind of like I guess just I’m just
Seriously it’s not live right I think it whenever we is the point where we don’t have to do that processor we don’t put that expectation of people outside of their hair or normative identity then we won’t be a problem but I mean it takes
Up it’s like a long times and take a lot of these type of events a lot of just being afraid to talk but I wanted to talk about the professional livelihood again because Pablo he was go earlier we were talking about that cuz she thought we were talking about doing event like
That for next semester like a professional networking are like a professional form type thing like yeah we should put like this on our on a website or like I don’t know if anybody else is involved with me let me teach you things or whatever working right for
Home I law or something like that Kabul actually told us that he said that sometimes is shifting down toward that that employers like to see that kind of stuff on your resume because I show you the sure about cars and it shows that you offer a different perspective and a
Different type of aspect to summarize company so there’s just something to keep in mind yeah i just got an internship with shelter and I could keep on my resume because it is one and I got the internship are no fools because of that or cousin are but I’ve
Like it is something that usually believe in a you support and that you stand for do it because you don’t want to be a part somebody that’s not accepted to you English should we working for a company anyways if they’re not trying to take you as the whole
Person that you are regardless of sleep
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