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Looks phenomenal see this difference between black star Network and black own media and something like CNN you can’t be black own media and bcap it’s time to be smart bring your eyeballs home you Dig I today is Monday February 5th 2024 coming up on roller mark on filter streaming live on the Black Star Network congresswoman Elena Holmes Norton she wants the federal government to be more accountable to the advertising dollars they are spending on black own and my minority media also it’s time for

Senator Chuck Schumer to hold a senate hearing on these white ad agencies and how they are refusing to provide more funds to blackowned Media we will talk to congresswoman Holmes Norton right here on Roland Martin unfiltered Tennessee Republicans they want representative Justin Jones to resign from office for getet this y’all not

Wanting to lead the Pledge of Allegiance Target pulls a product about black civil rights icons because it was wrong we’ll show you the now viral video at Nevada history teacher a shot showing what was wrong with the product this year marks the 10th year since the Flint Michigan

Water Crisis began all this week we will reflect on what took place there and talk to various folks about holding folks they’re accountable plus the Poor People’s campaign is launching its voter mobilization plan for this year’s ele election journalist Klay Kane will be in studio to discuss his new book the grift

The downward spiral of black Republicans from the party of Lincoln to The Cult of trump and Jay-Z spoke last night the Grammys he accepted a an honor a big honor from them I’m going to tell you why he should have boycotted it’s time to bring the funk and Roland Martin

Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network let’s go whatever whatever it is he’s got the scoop the F the F and when it breaks he’s right on time and it’s rolling best believe he’s knowing putting it down from Bost news to politics with entertainment Just for kicks he’s Rolling it’s [Applause] Ro it’s rolling Mont yeah rolling with rolling now he’s FK he’s fresh he’s real the best you know he’s rolling [Applause] [Applause] Mar being frozen out facing an Extinction level EV we don’t fight this fight right now you’re not going to have black on folks black on media is often overlooked by White Run ad agencies and get the short end of the Stick of the $340 billion being spent in the General

Market but the same thing happens in the federal government a government accountability office study that was asked for by Congressman ill Holmes Norton found found that over a 5-year period the federal government spent more than $5 billion on Advertising guess what blackowned media got 51 million out of that 5 billion in

November congresswoman Holmes Norton sponsored a bill requiring federal agencies to include in their annual budget justifications for the amount they spent on Advertising contracts with small disadvantaged businesses and businesses owned by women and minorities she joins me right now Congress from the homes Lord glad to have you here and

First of all thank you for being someone uh who is been on this this is not new you’ve been true to this uh I serve I talk about that study that you called for the GAO to do and the report came out in 2018 and present day we’re still having the same

Problems yes we are and that’s why I’ve introduced a bill Rand that requires the Fed federal government to include in their annual report justifications for the amount they spend on contracts with small disadvantaged businesses and businesses owned by minorities and women during the prior fiscal year and I ask also for

Projections of their spending for the upcoming fiscal year and they have a number of co-sponsors who helped uh me lead or co-lead a letter to President Biden uh and in that letter uh I said I was seeking answers about the inequities yep in in federal advertising contracts awarded to

Media advertising agencies owned by minority and women as compared to the rest of the country I think you indicated a figure where blackowned Industries received only F 51 million and that amounted to only 1.2% of these funds now remember who we’re talking about uh the largest Advertiser in the United States is the

Federal government so it has a very a special obligation y to ensure Fair access for minority and women owned media companies and here’s what we discovered congresswoman here’s what we discovered we had during this is during the Trump Administration we had Congressman Steven Horford on the show

And the CBC tasked him to be their liaison if you will when it came to the census he met with the Ad Agency that was responsible and they told him we are not going to buy any P newspapers circulation 50,000 or under that’s 98% of all black newspapers and so I can

Tell you what happened we we filled out the we filled out the they say go to the portal we fill the whole thing out we go through this whole deal we don’t hear from them for several months it was like September and when the Trump folks were

Going to cut it short I’ve been begin to blast uh this Ad Agency uh on social media and I begin to call them out on the show all of a sudden they called Carol H Williams who was supposed to be the black Ad Agency but they cut her out of

The money and they were like Carol what’s going on why is this guy upset she said cuz y’all never responded well what should we do she said I advise y’all to cut them a check so and and and and they did we got for one month of

Work but the bottom line is if I didn’t go off and put them on blast no money would have would have come out I met with s Susan Rice and her team within the first 60 days of Biden being sworn in I told her team this is what’s going

On this is what the deal is y’all got to I said these are the traps these are the games that they play and nothing came about it and so the administration tells me well Roland you know give us some time I said guys we don’t have time I

Said Co money is about to be spent and you know what happened there same thing congresswoman they s spit that money on mainstream media and we were told by one of the Consultants yeah we th we put all the money out and we just want to see

What what was stick and nothing happened when we gave a detailed plan on how to pair shots doing broadcast locally and it’s the same thing the the same white ad agencies that we fight in the General market they’re the ones who get the federal government contracts well Roland uh uh there is

Some better news uh I have a letter here from the uh GAO that’s a general Accounting Office yep and I want you to know what that letter says it says that GAO is confirming its commitment to examine the federal government’s advertising Contracting with small disadvantage businesses and businesses owned by minorities and women

On the basis of my letter to the controlling uh to The Controller General it and the letter says we plan to complete our work and I want you to know this and send a draft product to the small business administration for comment by May or June in 2024 so I think we have

Finally gotten their attention so here’s here’s what so I’m just going to tell you just one of the games they’re going to play congresswoman they’re going to try to group everything together when uh when when Congressman Hank Johnson s the letter to the White House they did the

Exact same thing uh and they sent back oh here was the percentage I said no no no no no I said tell them they got to break it out and that is don’t group it they got to break out when they say women that’s actually white women

Because if you’re a black woman you go in a black category and if they say and they want to say black it needs to say first of all needs to be an itemized listing here’s why because what they’re going to do is they’re going to put black targeted in the same category as

Black own so for instance when they trying to reach black people digital they go to complex complex is white BuzzFeed owns them they’re not going to go to a black digital company and so that’s so I so I I’ve said to the other CBC members force them to be specific in

Fact I would even when you said it in your in your in your press release it needs to be an itemized listing name of media company how much they got cuz then so if I see that I can then go congresswoman black targeted black targeted black targeted blackowned and

Then we’ll see if the blackowned people got a small amount and black targeted got a larger amount well Roland look remember in my letter uh I said uh uh uh they indicated that they planed to complete their work uh and send a draft product to the business administration for comment

Comment yeah the SBA May or June so that comment will give you and it will give me the chance to see whether they have done the work we’ve asked them to do absolutely and the reason this is this ticks me off is because you and others

In the CBC this is what people don’t understand understand people complain that I don’t know what the CBC does I can you say when it came to the census the CBC fought for an additional $70 million to be added to the marketing budget for the census and that money was

Supposed to actually go to a black agency to make sure that we’re reaching black folks and we’re counting black folks well what the General market agency did was they kept the money and blocked the black people out so if people don’t realize y’all are out there fighting to get Stu allocated but when

It goes to the bureaucracy that’s what happens same thing USDA I can go down the line all of these different federal agencies uh and I’ve said look the Pentagon of the billion dollars spent annually the Pentagon spends about 600 million and I’m sitting there going okay

I can tell you right now Congressman I met with the Ad Agency OMD they have the US Army contract had a meeting talked to him last year nothing happened nothing and I’m sitting there going aren’t y’all having a recruiting crisis aren’t y’all having a problem reaching people like

What are you doing and and these are the games all of these agencies play and we have to call them out and put pressure on them and then they’re like oh well it’s not us it’s the client and I’m going no no no you’re telling the client

What to do and you’re stopping Black agencies black media companies from being able to access the doll so we can tell our community uh the USDA when it comes to they have an advertising contract to tell black Farmers how to sign up somebody called me this weekend about a lowincome affordable housing

Program in the USDA I had never heard of it I’m sitting there going who are y’all’s advertising with to tell this stuff to it is stunning what happens and the money just goes out and it gets spent and then when you come back oh sorry we ran out we can’t help you now

Yeah Roman unless we watch them it just doesn’t happen uh that’s why I so appreciate your you using your platform to call attention to this and if you will keep in touch with me I’ll be right with you absolutely and I’ll tell you this here uh uh when July when they had

The black media round table with the United States Senate I specifically told Senator Chuck Schumer there should be a senate senate hearing regarding this very issue followed up in September they didn’t get back to me and I told I said I’m going to call you guys out it needs

To happen because we’re talking in the General market congresswoman $340 billion and you know what’s crazy when bet was sold 22 years ago black own media was getting 1% 20 plus years later we’re still getting 1% oh my God yeah oh there work to do Roland all right so

Keep in touch with us I will do thanks for your work I appreciate it you take care of course folks going to go to a break we’re going to come back we’re going to continue this conversation with our panel and I want y’all to understand this right here is why black black media

Black on media can’t cover stories this is why we can’t hire staff this is why black on media dies this is why ebony is not what it used to be this is why this is why all black on media is not what it used to be it’s because we’re being

Frozen out of the money and while you are buying their cars and buying their soft drinks and buying their snacks and buying their clothes and buying their shoes and buying their apple and Microsoft products and while you’re using their Banks JP Morgan Wells Fargo

Bank of America I can go on and on and on while all these things are happening they will gladly take black money but will not spend with black people you’re watching Roland Martin unfiltered on the black Sun Network for the last 15 or maybe 16

Years 18 years I’ll say since I when I moved to LA I hadn’t had a break I hav’t had a vacation a week vacation here and there right this year after I got finished doing Queen sugar and we wrapped out because I knew I had two TV

Shows come on at the same time said I’m going to take a little break so I’ve been on break for the first time and I can afford now praise God you know what I’m saying so I could afford it I’m like I can sit back I ain’t got nothing to

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Jobs what’s good y’all this is Doug eesh and you’re watching my brother Rand Martin unfiled as we go a little something like this hit it it’s Real you know what I whenever I talk about this subject uh I have some folk uh who they’ll be on social media other places they’ll be sitting here oh man there you go big and a white man for money I’m sorry Disney Comcast CBS vcom Paramount Warner Discovery New York Times Washington Post

Sinclair all of these media companies in America they all are multi-billion dollar companies because of advertising so I need some of these simple assignments to explain to me why is it that these companies can go to the upfronts in April and May and June where 80% of the

Money is actually handed out and pitch their goods to the ad agencies but black own media can’t we’re supposed to starve no man uh we can do for self no you can’t no you can’t you cannot let me be very clear you cannot build a thriving media business if you’re not getting media

Advertising can’t do it and so when we’re making this point I need people to understand that that’s how they got big that’s how CNN is what it is and Fox News and MSNBC and on and on and on so it would be nonsensical for us to sit here and say

We shouldn’t be demanding the money when black people are buying the products I’m just going to give you an example I’ve never drank in my life I’ve never smoked in my life and the National Association of black journalists the board of directors that voted I think it

Was 88 or 89 not to accept any mon money from tobacco and alcohol companies all right I totally understood that but then it was stupid to me because whenever we picked a con mention City we always picked a hotel with a big Lobby and we picked a hotel with a big

Lobby because that was always the meeting point where everybody went to drink and I was like I’m confused we literally exceed our food and beverage requirement in the hotel contract exceedingly I mean we blow the number out I mean we drink some alcohol so we had we had um a convention

In Orlando and we had a big opening party at Disney World and y’all every 50 feet was a bar or big tubs of big big big tubs of beer and I was sitting and I was like why in the hell are we spending all our money on alcohol and we ain’t

Getting no money back so so we had our business meeting that Friday and that was a contentious issue and after isue a bunch of people left well I know the rules the rules are when the organization meets in the business meeting you can pass measures and that becomes essentially the law of

The organization so I stood up and I made a motion to resend the ban on alcohol money it pass and I I laid out my case and it passed all people came to me mad as hell now never forget Arthur solsberg the owner of the New York Times

He came to me at the Gayla just blasting me wagging his finger I said who the hell you think you talking to I said if you don’t want us to take alcohol money then you should increase the amount of money you give to nabj he got real quiet he got real quiet

Folks here’s the reality we are amazing consumers we are consumers we buy cars we buy General Motors Ford Hyundai Chrysler Mercedes BMW we buy cars man we buy Nike we buy rebok we buy Converse we buy New Balance we go to Foot Locker and buy them we buy Target

We buy at Walmart we buy at cooh we buy everything we buy Clorox we buy fabreeze we buy washing detergent we buy dishwashing detergent we buy JBL speakers we buy Apple phones Apple iPads Apple Computers Microsoft software Microsoft Services Samsung TVs Vio TVs LG TVs we buy

Everything but have you ever asked the question how much do these companies spend on Advertising to Black own media do they have any black board members do they have any black senior Executives is it possible that any of these companies may very well have a

Black CEO one day and if they do have black board members and black black executives are those black board members and black Executives actually standing up and fighting on behalf of black people are they providing Professional Services are they including black law firms are they including black

Accounting firms are they do do they they use catering companies do they use any black Caterers they have PR companies do they use any black PR companies they use Transportation companies do they use any black limousine companies they do events they have any black event planners I hope y’all watching Now understand

That I’m not talking about just black on media the fundamental problem in Black America is that the black economic ecosystem is not being expanded so you know what we do we allow these companies to freely come to the NAACP convention come to the image Awards come to the National Urban League

Convention come to the Nan convention come to the rainbow push convention come to fraternities and sororities local events State Regional National we allow them to come to Congressional Black Caucus Foundation ALC I’ll give you an example Amazon was the primary sponsor of this year’s Congressional Black Caucus Foundation

ALC Amazon gave $1.5 million do y’all know what the Amazon annual marketing budget is it is $20 billion that means if Amazon spent 5% of its marketing budget with black businesses blackowned media would be generating 1 billion blackowned media will be generating from Amazon alone Amazon alone $1

Billion now go Microsoft now go Apple I told y’all about PepsiCo PepsiCo has a 5year 10 million initiative with the National Urban League PepsiCo wants to drop running cam running commerci commercials they want to drive a $100 million in receipts every year to black I mean over 5 years to Black own

Businesses that’s great problem is they can’t track it because there’s no code one of the black own restaurants told me but understand this here PepsiCo spends $3 billion do a year on marketing if PepsiCo spent 5% of his marketing budget with blackowned media that’s $150 million a year that’s $750 million over

5 years huh 5year $10 million partnership with the National Urban League $100 million in receipts or 750 million y’all that’s just marketing that’s not other contracts Wells Fargo signed an initiative to 10year commit 10year commitment to the NAACP of $50 million really how much did black people lose in the home foreclosure crisis

Through Wells Fargo’s actions I can guarantee you it’s more than 50 million so here’s my question what is Wills Fargo marketing budget how much money does JP Morgan Chase and Bank of America and City Group financial service companies spend with blackowned media I hope y’all who are watching are now

Understanding what I’m talking about if you want to understand why black people are broke I can show you how we are broke we’re broke because we are investing in a system that has no return on investment in us and what we’re not doing is what Dr King actually said to

Us on April 3rd 1968 when he literally said we need to redistribute the pain he said the garbage workers are the ones that feeling the pain we must redistribute the pain in that very speech Dr King named companies to boycott them he told black people to put

It put the money in Black Banks he said buy insurance from black insurance companies now some of y’all might be saying well well man that’s going too far okay well you please tell me then how then are we going to be able to build capacity and grow that is why Senator Chuck

Schumer the Senate leader should have Senate hearings and calling every major Ad Agency head and my by the way 90% of the executives of ad agencies are white he should call every single one of them to a senate hearing cuz guess what last week last week how many of us saw the

Social media companies testifying before Congress how many of us witnessed uh Senator Lindsey Graham making Mark Zuckerberg apologize uh to the families how many of us witnessed that take place last week well guess what if they can call for the social media companies to do that well then they can have this

Type of hearing and call every major Ad Agency and say explain to me how is it that bet was sold 20 plus years ago and in the New York Times story on the Cale of bet a media analyst said that blackowned media was getting 1% of all

Advertising dollars and here we s sit more than 20 years later and blackowned media is still getting 1% this folks this is about Equity this is about inclusion this is about diversity oh and I know cuz I I love when they do this here I love when they

Do this here well Roland uh uh uh maybe you don’t have the ratings but we do oh oh uh this we get from ad agencies can y’all do tags yes uh uh C can y’all do programmatic yes oh y’all they love they love coming up with all these excuses about uh what

We can’t do and and and oh oh I I I don’t know if y’all could uh I mean one of my guys with the urban Edge Network they had a meeting with one agency and they literally were like uh hey uh do you guys do y’all know how to uh do

Y’all use this for yep we do and see I love when they try to matter of fact go to my iPad Henry this is my guys from Urban Edge Network prepared a report for a deal that we did with Proctor and Gamble if they did with

Proctor and Gamble and we did some with Proctor and Gamble last year where they laid out technology used boom semantic targeting device targeting custom targeting detailed delivery insights compliant metrics activation boom laid out the report the delivery boom 2.9 Million iness 2.4 million completed views 4,000 clicks laid out delivery by

Month frequency by device okay summer report overall campaign laid the whole deal out this was the report that they actually sent to them showing exactly how the campaign was effective y’all know what happened to ad agencies dang now we got to figure out some other way to tell them

No y’all I’ve been in the meetings it’s four agencies I’ve been meeting with for three years you know how much we’ve gotten zero I say to them everybody in this meeting get paid except me y’all being paid to be in this meeting I’m not see let me also tell y’all what y’all don’t

Understand all of these streaming services and all of these cable networks the pr people hit me can you cover can you come to our red carpet event can you cover our event uh uh can we get so and so celebrity so and so director on your show oh so y’all find

Value in my show cuz y’all find Value in my black eyeballs but why is your advertising people never call me see I want y’all to get what I’m saying so y’all want me to spend money to go to pay a photographer to go shoot an event but I got no money coming back

Oh so that’s no rate no no return on investment it’s costing me money oh oh we we’ll we’ll invite you to the junket oh so you think I’mma be excited because I get free food and a hotel room but but I got to fly across the country to LA to do it my

Time is not valuable last night the Grits Travis Scott performed do you know what ran when they went to commercial break a commercial featuring Travis Scott do you you not think the companies do business with him didn’t know he was performing y’all I keep telling y’all if you’re not having a money conversation

You ain’t having an American conversation we need to understand this is a money game and they are excellent at freezing us out of the money the federal government cuz one of the things that I’m also going to ask Congress from El Holmes don’t to do do

And I asked it to the I told the B Administration last year to do this year they should put together a list of every single it should put together list of every single federal agency and who is the Ad Agency responsible for that agency who handles the Pentagon who handles HHS who handles

Transportation go down the line and say Here’s the chief investment officer here’s the contact because what they do is y’all they run us through hoops see what y’all don’t know what happened with the census one agency got the contract they then split the contract up into multiple

Agencies one agency got it and they gave I’m I’m peeping y’all the game they gave the broadcast contract to one of their subsidiaries they gave the digital contract to one of their subsidiaries and the print piece to another subsidiary same company split the money up three four different

Ways and all us all of them got their percentages that’s the game they play against us and they use our size size against us are you too small well I I can’t grow never get any money and the same thing happens with political folks the campaigns do y’all know in

20229 billion was spent on political campaigns 9 billion how much money does dscc Chuck schuma controls that dlec Jeff controls that I’m just speak on the Democratic side you got the Democratic governor Association you got Emily’s List you you got all those packs y y’all see what I’m doing I’m

Breaking down where all the money is each one of them should be asked what’s your black own media spend oh oh so you want your surrogates come on my show you want us to cover your rallies you want us to cover your speeches you want us to cover your policies but you

Don’t want to spend money that ain’t no different than Hollywood I’m just gonna before I go to my panel I’m G tell you what happened it’s been one bank I ain’t gonna name them right now but I’m gonna name them later it’s been One Bank I’ve been talking to for three years major

Bank major major bank I get a call last week from a African-American on the pr side hey this thing is going on we want to get one of our experts on really y’all ain’t spend no money y’all didn’t respond to any of my proposals for 3 years but now I’m valuable enough

To get one of your experts on I said no that’s not going to happen so I broke it down to the broke it down to him what the real deal is black people we have got to learn to stop being played small we’ve got to stop accepting crumbs and think it’s a

Meal this is how we they broke guess what the word no is a complete sentence and I have turned money down because they played me small at a political campaign hit me up in 2022 saying wanted me to do this whole Camp one a whole advertising campaign for

25,000 I said y’all out y’all mind I said hell no I said I will keep my black ass at home good luck in your camp campaign they had to come back tripling the amount the 75 wasn’t even actually what it should be but was more than 25 and that was a black

Candidate y’all need to understand everything I’m describing for you is why the condition of blackowned media is is what is what it is in it is because we are completely frozen out of the money that’s Julian Malvo Economist president emera uh Ben in college author Jones out of Washington DC uh Dr Dr

Mango dingo senior professorial lectur School of International Service American University and Derek Jackson Georgia state representative uh out of Atlanta Julian I want to start with you again Julian this a money conversation and it boils down to the money absolutely Roland now I think you laid it out you know quite skillfully in

Terms of what’s going on they see us as consumers they want our consumer eyeballs but they don’t want to invest in our media and so what we end up seeing is our people being sidelined in so many ways as you laid it out you can’t grow if you don’t have the reach

And you don’t have the reach if you don’t have the dollars you have created a very unique and very important platform but imagine what it could be if you had double or triple the dollars that you deserve not that you are begging for as you said but that you

Deserve and you deserve we deserve to have black old media out there I’ve seen too many black newspapers cut from weekly to bi-weekly uh because they don’t have the advertising I’ve heard the conversations you know I’ve been with black media I started with the San Francisco Sun reporter actually as a

Writer back way back in the day when I was a baby girl and um I remember going to meetings where Macy’s in particular I remember Macy’s because they said well why would we advertise with you when we could go to the San Francisco cronical was the you big white newspaper and you’re

Like you know well I won’t say what I said I’m I’m trying to grow up and be a little bit more perodite in my old age but there was profanity to use I’m like what the Blu um because actually yes we read the Main Street newspapers too but we have special

Affinity y for those newspapers who speak to us and so we don’t see a paper there or the at you know we’ve gone through this I went through with Jackson 84 88 you know I’m dating myself but where they had ads for everybody L ding everybody except rever Jackson and so

What we need to know is that we should ask questions when we purchase we should ask questions about are you buying from black old media now you know we can’t always Center ourselves around all of that but we should Center ourselves around some of it and uh again the work

Work you do is invaluable the work that congresswoman Norton has done is invaluable what’s even more valuable though is US lifting our voices and saying to people are you investing in us because we’re spending money with you yep uh I spoke to Rainbow push at the installation of Reverend Dr feder

Douglas hes I thir on M cono on Thursday uh and he specifically asked me to speak about the issue of blackowned media and I laid this whole thing out and I’m trying to get our people to understand I saw all these black people uh why we don’t have blackowned media covering uh

The Tory Lanes Mega uh uh trial cuz we can’t afford a court reporter um I’ve told Congressional Black Caucus members guess what y’all I said hey I said we can’t afford to pay a congressional correspondent $75 to $100,000 a year just to cover Congress sorry we can’t you can’t do and so I’ve

Walked them through and I said but if the money comes I sent an email over on manga over the weekend to a variety of people Hollywood folks Business Leaders civil rights leaders and I laid it out I said if I got an additional 2 Mill milon dollar this year and annually for let’s

The next three four or five years I could hire in 90 days up to eight top Riders and have one have arguably the best black news staff in the country because you know why LA Times just closed their Bureau sister was a bureau chief Wall Street Journal just closed

Their stuff down was a black sister uh who was in there uh the messenger shut down 300 people you got ma massive Talent out here job’s not there I said yeah I said I can hire them in 90 days 60 days if the money is there and now

All of a sudden now we’re covering a variety of stuff and we ain’t talking gossip we ain’t talking mess we’re talking substantive issues but you cannot hire those people if you do not have the money absolutely absolutely and it’s very interesting because you know a few weeks ago you talked about the whole

Thing with tub and stars and how you know just like we did with Fox back in the day we build up all of these platforms for other people who just see the beauty of our of our talent but don’t want to give us real money to help

Us build our communities but as we continue to shine the light on it now with with what congresswoman Norton is doing what you C talked about consistently we have to we talk about you know R Car talks about bringing eyeballs home we have to make sure that continuingly pushing these organizations

Government entities and the like to bring the dollars to us and we also have to be mindful of the fact that we have to be willing to tell them this is an if then Clause if you don’t do this then we won’t support you you see that example

You gave with the bank ex Roland when you said somebody wants to come on the show but they haven’t been supporting you after talking to them in three years you told them I’m not going to let you just pimp out my audience y so I can get

Some type of Click so maybe get that loan that’s the piece that so many of us are missing we’ll say we want the dollars we want we want the ad dollars but then they know if they don’t give it to us we’re still G to watch we’re still

Gonna go to the show we’re still going to go to the concert and what you’re doing what elom congresswoman homes Norton is doing you’re putting words to this and there’s going to be actions relating to this and I’m hoping that people are watching this because that’s what’s going to really wake up these

Advertising agencies because that that you gave that hasn’t changed over like decades it’s ridiculous and Derek here’s the point here uh and after your comment we’ll go to a break uh is is very simple we can’t be I go back to MLK speech April 3rd 1968 we cannot be

Afraid let me be perfectly clear Derek I’ve got meetings set up over the next two weeks with a multitude of ad agencies and companies if I keep hearing no I’m telling you I know what I’m going to do I’m going to name them I’m going to show the faces of

Their white and black Executives and I’m going to say how long we’ve been talking to them please because see part of the problem that’s happening here Derek there are black people just like in politics there are black board members who are doing nothing who are saying nothing but

They’re getting paid there are black senior Executives who are doing nothing you got black Chief marketing officers who are doing nothing but we celebrate them and fed them and oh my God and we hand them Awards but we never say but did you change the condition of our

Community while you were there or did you only get a check see and My Philosophy is real simple if I didn’t get no money last year or last quarter or last month or last week or yesterday or today it’s a good bet I’m not don’t get any money tomorrow so what the hell

Do I have to lose by calling people out that’s right there you go you know Roland you know Roland we have to be bold and we’re not begging and if I may Channel my inner JayZ when you talk about men lie women lie numbers don’t lie in six days Roland

We’re going to see Corporation spend million for a 30 second commercial let me let me say that again for the audience $7 million per 30 second commercial so cocacola right here home quarter right here in Atlanta if they have 10 commercials during that three and a half hour Super Bowl

Rolling they done spent $70 million and the reason why they spending 70 million because they want to show The 100 million people just in the United States G that going to be watching the Super Bowl about their ads we do consume and we are consumers because the the the feds

Already told us that black economic trillion let me say that again1 that’s our economic spending power in this country we are major consumers but we just don’t see the dollars returning into our community absolutely and so this is not for us to be scared we must challenge

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And now is a time for black folks to stop walking around on eggshells scared to name people and call people out because again I while I was just sitting here Verizon took $168 out of my account for this phone I don’t think Verizon has advertised with us in two years so I’m

Actually spending more with Verizon than Verizon has spent with us and I can go to T-Mobile and AT&T and down the line folk it’s about the money and like Frank Lucas said in the American ganger I’m G to get that money coming up next she’s running for North Carolina next Attorney General

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Unfiltered North Carolina’s primary folks is on March 5th and one of the closely watched races is for attorney general uh Satan DeBerry folks Tim Dunn and Jeff Jackson will be battling to secure a place on the November ballot now DeBry is the state’s 16th uh District prosecuting attorney she’s

Responsible for Durham County she was a defense attorney a she was a defense attorney a general counsel to the State’s Department of Health and Human Services and North Carolina Housing Coalition executive director she joins us now from dur I’m glad to have you on the show um I I I’m always trying to

Explain to our folk again understanding politics and what I say to them is if you want to understand and people finally have gotten it we want to change the criminal justice system get rid of mass incarceration people kept focusing on Congress when the most critical person when it comes to the criminal justice

System and reform is the da absolutely and so we talk about Das judges attorney generals and so too often we we Overlook the importance of those positions but the fact of the matter is Attorney General of a state Wills significant power power that’s correct and your local district attorney wields so much power

Over the criminal justice system they have 100% discretion in everything that is happening so they decide what goes to court and then your attorney general is representing your rights you know we see here um what’s happening in Texas around Reproductive Rights what’s happening here in North Carolina around voting

Rights all of those things your attorney general can affect and you know as black people we really have never gotten anywhere unless we have litigated it unless we have litigated our rights in court well and it is really important for us to be in these spots in fact you

Mentioned Texas when it came to the voting uh law when it came to again interpreting the law and Prosecuting the state law when it came to abortion uh uh that that pathetic you know Ken Paxton who’s been indicted was at the lead of it in fact after the affirmative action

Decision you had Republican Attorneys General who wrote letters to law firms telling them you’re also uh in violation when it came to uh uh Biden’s uh School uh uh uh school debt relief plan it was Republican attorneys generals Who challenged that and went to the Supreme Court those were so the position you’re

Running for those were Republicans who were sitting in those positions yeah in your previous segment you were talking about the money um it’s been Republicans attorney generals who have joined in a brief Against The Fearless fund right which was providing private Equity um startup money to Black and women owned

Companies to black women owned companies so they are saying we can’t even give our money to each other now right so for for you now explain that folks who are watching because I’ve been involved in this a whole lot uh and 2008 then Senator Barack Obama wins North

Carolina by 14,100 votes and man did the Republicans get pissed off and then they start changing the law in 2010 and then Shelby be holder they changing the more and it has been a literal battle for for the last 14 years of Republicans using the power of the Attorney General and

The governor’s mansion controlling legislature or control the state supreme court when it comes to voting when it comes to so many different issues so walk people through how critically important the Attorney General is in North Carolina where it’s not a red State it’s not a blue State it’s a

Purple state if we actually vote well if we actually vote we North Carolina’s uh Democratic voters are about 45% African-American that is a huge chunk of Voters that means you get to decide who the nominee is and what the issue for us you talk about uh Obama in

2008 is that after Obama in 2008 um only the regular voters came out 2008 infrequent voters people who may or may not get up off the couch to vote but they those are black voters who want to vote for somebody who believes in what they believe in unfortunately Democratic

Party in those last 14 years as our voting rights have been suppressed keep giving us the same people to vote for right and one of the things that I’m saying this year is that if the top of our ticket in North Carolina is three white guys in blue shirts black people

Aren’t coming out for that yep and look we want to see people we don’t need allies anymore we actually have um the education the leadership the background to do these jobs and we want to see us on the ballot and if we’re not on the ballot black black people they’re

They’re not going to vote for Trump stay home look and look 2018 Sher Beasley Chief Justice of supreme court she run loses about 400 votes 400 votes and we know several thousands upon thousands of black people did not vote in 2018 what the Democrats could have had a

6 to1 majority on the state supreme court they lose it it goes 4 to3 2000 what happens uh 2020 it lose it lose a majority now it’s what 52 Republican on the state supreme court and so again and that’s voting so the bottom line is when

I hear people talk about well my vote don’t matter trust me the other side they know it matters that’s why they want to stop you from voting and this is about power this is about controlling dollars when you elect people who you want to elect that’s correct they make

They are the ones who are making the decision about what happened North Carolina is what’s called a Dylan rule state that means that localities only have the power that is given to them by the general assembly well your our general assembly now is busy giving money to themselves and their friends

And power and control they’re not thinking about the needs of everyday North Carolinians about environmental justice about voting rights about protecting Reproductive Rights about even having a hospital North Carolina has the second largest rural population in the country some people have to drive an hour just to get Primary Care forget

Needing a specialist right forget having cancer forget um having a traumatic injury or a complicated birth right and they don’t have any interest in changing any of that in fact they want to make it worse questions from my panel uh Derek I’ll start with you appreciate the uh the the overview on your

Candidacy but a lot of um individuals in North Carolina just like it is in Georgia do not know what the attorney general what their role is what their responsibilities are can you share with the Roland Martin audience exactly the role and how important your role will be as Attorney General sure absolutely so

The Attorney General represents the people of North Carolina in litigation whether that means um your if the general assembly passes a six-week abortion right ban who represents the people of North Carolina against that if they are attacking your voting rights the Attorney General represents the people of North Carolina on that issue

Not the general assembly the people of North Carolina right the Attorney General represents the people of North Carolina on environmental issues if your grandma is getting calls getting scam calls about her Medicare all day and night or there’s AI calling her telling her that you’re in jail and needs money

And you got to wire money that is the AG that prosecutes those things that take that holds those scammers to task right hun we’ve been talking about stolen cars everybody’s been talking about Hyundai and Kia um there may not be criminal sanctions that can be brought against

Hyundai and Kia about how they built their cars for them to be stolen but the Attorney General can bring civil litigation that forces Hyundai and Kia to fix their cars and Hyundai and Kia are low-end cars who’s driving those we’re driving those we’re the ones that most risk getting our cars

Stolen so there are lots of ways in which the Attorney General impacts literally your everyday life if there’s a company that is dumping chemicals in a black community that’s the AG’s responsibility to hold them account Julian sister I appreciate you I tell people all the time I served time in

North Carolina when I was president of Ben college and I know you’re familiar with the amazing Legacy of Andrea Harris who was a vital um basically advocate for minority business what is your M of mform yeah and mine too what was what’s your platform on minority business and

What will you do to advance the cause of minority business well my platform one is that um we will let minority businesses play uh one of the things that the general assembly has done in North Carolina is try to Str shrink the Attorney General’s office and so that means that the

Attorney general has to Outsource work and that Outsourcing generally goes to the same firms an attorney general a more diverse attorney general will have more diverse outside firms right and it’s like Roland was saying in the previous segment if he just had a fraction of the advertising money yep um

That some of these big compan these big broadcasters had he could have enormous reach that is the same with law firms right if they had a fraction of the business that some of these white shoe firms had their ability to move forward uh Economic Opportunity Economic Development uh would be massive yep and

And the Professional Services we’re talking billions of dollars for legal fees uh for uh for uh again accounting and stuff John Rogers keeps he says stop calling it Supplier Diversity he says call it business diversity and that’s what it is and we’re frozen out of those dollars and it happens constantly uh and

People don’t even understand how significant that is Pension funds you name it private Equity all of that mango that’s right yep mango this thank you so much for for your continued work I I want to know what are some of the challenges you’re facing in North Carolina and going into November 2024 as

It relates to voter suppression because it seems like across the country Republicans are stepping up their efforts to make it harder for us to vote what’s going on in North Carolina well you know the number one thing that’s going on in North Carolina is voter ID right and so they are trying

To suppress voter they’re trying to um make certain IDs inaccessible to people they are uh you know the trick you’ve seen the dirty tricks where it’s like if you did not sign this in the right place then we’re going to throw your ballot out uh North Carolina for a very long

Time has had same day registra voter registration for early voting they have been challenging that they say that is that you can’t do that anymore just recently Court said that’s unconstitutional and you continue to do that I have been on a regional task force that is looking at the possibility

Of actual political violence at the polls that there may be people who show up and take it on themselves to quote unquote police the PO well one second when you said the Court said that was unconstitutional what was unconstitutional um the restricting uh voter same day voter registration got so

The court said it was unconstitutionally restricting but this is the thing I need people to understand because Republicans now have a 5 to2 advantage on the state supreme court that state supreme court is actually ruling in in favor of many of these Republican efforts when it was a democratic Court that’s how they

Overruled Rachel Jerry manderin that’s right and let me tell you this this rolling those cases had already been decided yep for everybody watching first things you learn in law school is story decises well for everybody they decided they can’t go back and bring it back for everybody who’s watching let me tell you

How bold they were there were cases that were decided in late 200 uh uh 22 when the court switched they brought them back up and and flip three of them that’s right that’s how they use a power go ahead that’s right that’s exactly how they use their

Power and and and they’re attacking the black sister the sister uh Anita ears they want her off the Supreme Court cuz they wanted to be six to one and they want her off theem supreme court because she said the court should be should um pay attention to racial Equity the the

Woman gave a speech about diversity and they actually investigating her that’s right she she did nothing wrong right she she just said the court should be concerned with racial Equity she didn’t uh take money from anybody she didn’t uh her daddy is not the speaker protim of the

Senate right she is a well-respected civil rights lawyer of many years and all of a sudden she has a Judicial standards caign that is ridiculous mhm yep all right so again the primary is March 5th uh and so look folks got to get to the polls and whoever wins the

Primary March 5th now how does it work is it whoever gets the most votes on March 5th or is it it’s got to be a major it’s got to be a 50 plus one so how does it work yeah it’s got to be more than 30% um and then everything over that is

It’s got to be a majority so got it somebody has to get 30 30% and or more all right then well look um da de Bar we app appreciate you being on the show Good Luck uh in uh the March 5th primary there in North Carolina for the Vex

Attorney general thank you so much and thank you for having me tonight this has been great all right thank you so very much all right folks and we come back we’re going to talk about uh the 10th anniversary of the Flint Water Crisis what has been going on and is stuff

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On BlackStar Network This is Essence at love king of R&B Ron it’s me Sherry sh and you know what you’re watching you’re watching Roland Martin Unfiltered Let’s go all right folks 10 years ago in April the nation was stunned with the Flint Water Crisis now it was a shocking story uh when it came to how the water INF Flint was being contaminated after uh the Takeover of the their water system now it was then Governor Rick Sneider

Republican who switched Flint Waters source to the Flint River to save money the water contained high levels of lead and bacteria which of course flowed for 18 months affecting Flint predominant black population and killing at least 12 people to date no one has been held responsible for the crisis me now is

Jordan Charlton a reporter and CEO of the status quo uh they they’ve been covering this story from the beginning Jordan glad to have you here um and You’ had the back and forth legal battles you’ve had the folks who say indict the governor it being thrown out uh it’s it

Is crazy to me that no one has truly been held accountable for what took place it’s really unconscionable you would think in America uh whether intentionally or accidentally if if government makes decisions that kill a lot of people and based on my reporting I believe it was significantly more than

12 uh someone would be held accountable but uh essentially La last year um the state of Michigan Supreme Court threw out uh the criminal charges uh from attorney general Dana nessle of Michigan uh Dana nessle basically saying that uh she brought the charges her team brought the charges in violation of the State

Constitution it’s a long drawn out story like you said there was multiple investigations um the original investigation seemed to be making momentum uh before this current attorney general came in and fired the prosecutors and investigators and restarted from scratch uh but that decision has now led to the charges

Being thrown out and it it does seem very unlikely that anyone uh will be held be convicted much less face a jury uh for uh poisoning Flyn um and you know this was um didn’t you have the former um the manager who was put over it I

Remember having him on my show uh he was he was caught up in this as well uh what about the federal investigation I mean we can go on and on and on I mean we mean we thought that that was going to actually be uh some justice done yeah uh obviously Governor Snider

Uh like many Republicans felt uh let’s run Flint like a business uh so they appointed four different unelected emergency managers who basically were just kind of puppets for the governor to do what he wanted uh and they according to my sources uh concocted a completely fraudulent Financial scheme to allow

Flint which was broke uh it did not have any ability to borrow money it was nearly bankrupt allowed Flint to borrow a hundred million do to join a unnecessary new water system uh that was going to make a lot of people money um those emergency managers were originally charged by the original investigators

And prosecutors uh those original investigators were actually uh near filing a racketeering case uh Rico which you know was created in the 70s to go after Mafia figures but when attorney general Nestle came in for reasons that are still head scratcher she cleaned she fired the original team that was about

To charge that racketeering case she put in her own prosecutors and it it was a disaster after that their all their cases got thrown out and now the statute of limitations which in Michigan for felonies is six years the only felony that is not six years is involuntary

Manser that’s 10 years the statute of limitations for most of the criminal charges has run out so it’s it’s you know I’ve asked the federal government the doj if if there’s some you know uh extra Extraordinary Measures that could be taken for the doj to step in here um

But I I’ve never got a solid answer and meanwhile you know the media doesn’t cover it anymore I’m glad you are but people in Flint uh still have contaminated water the lead levels are rising again they were at 10 parts per billion just in December uh the EPA says

15 parts per billion of lead is according to them their allowable limit but experts will tell you that there is zero zero should be the level particularly for children of lead in your water uh and residence the the the effects of heavy metal poisoning happen

They get worse as the years go on Flint right now has one of the worst cancer clusters in America and they’re doing a cancer study a study to try and you know connect the dots and see if it’s from the water I don’t think it’s from the weather so obviously uh heavy metals

Like lead bacteria can cause cancer so these residents are still struggling they do not have you know Universal Health Care a lot of them I speak to have had to you know basically go bankrupt to pay for Specialists uh because Medicaid won’t cover all their medical costs it’s it’s really a lot of

Um they’ve been had a lot of insults after injury over the last 10 years questions from my panel omongo your first well what first of all thank you for for for this work it’s really important and like you said nobody’s talking about Flint anymore to we’re talking about this tonight now people

Talk so much about Michigan being all all Democrat run top to bottom now and all of these cases are running out but what about the concept of restorative justice is the government at the local or state level are they doing anything because it’s the right thing to do as it

Relates to helping these communities heal because I’m going to assume that the idea of feeling abandoned by the government is another mental toll that they have to deal with on top of the physical health TOS that they’re dealing with it was described to me by the former mayor of Flint Karen Weaver um

She told me her last year in office you know she was obviously excited to uh have Governor Whitmer come in because Governor Snyder presided over this whole disaster and she approached Governor Whitmer according to her uh to ask for you know help in getting more funds cuz residents still have damaged pipes in

Their home um that have not been replaced that were damaged by the Flint River and according to Mayor Weaver Gretchen Whitmer told her that the state legislature has Flint Flint fatigue and she can’t get any more money from the state legislature which at the time was um you know majority Republican but

Michigan’s now majority Democrat and there is still issues and it’s not you know Governor Whitmer ran on reopening the free water stations for Flint she did not follow through on that and it’s not just Flint you know um I’ve been covering in Kalamazoo Michigan there is a uh paper mill Graphic Packaging a

Multi-billion dollar uh paper mill that is emitting toxic levels of hydrogen sulfide uh in a predominantly black community on the north side of Kalamazoo people are getting sick um I I got sick just next to the plant for a few days uh high levels of asthma COPD and Governor

Whit Mayer helped them expand a few years ago despite so obviously we know Republicans don’t care but it’s not just get Democrats in there and it’ll be fixed there’s a lot of issues and the people in Flint do not trust government whether it’s the Republicans they I think they trusted

Democrats more but have been disappointed that the promises that were made to them have not been followed through there wasn’t even a health registry for many years to track Clint residents health problems from this um so in terms of restorative justice you know I’m not an expert but the people I

Talk to do not have much nice things to say about the local state or federal government democrat or republican D my question is around and I’m a legislator just so you know here in Georgia my question is around legislation What legislation has been passed to mitigate this because this

Flint today or Flint 10 years ago but you got other municipalities that’s dealing with infrastructure other issues and those families still dealing with chronic issues as you already mentioned What legislation has been passed to mitigate this going forward well first of all I want to make

The point the original sin of this was the emergency manager law in Michigan uh that was actually started before Rick Snyder and there are still provisions of that Emergency Management law on the books in Michigan and that’s the law that allowed the governor to declare a financial emergency not just in Flint

But uh cadal in Cadillac uh predominantly black cities I should point out they declared Financial emergencies and appointed uh unelected emergency managers that in many cases were just basically the proxy for the governor uh so that there’s provisions of that still on the books uh and that

Is Direct that’s not the only reason but that is predominantly why the Flint waterer crisis happened because the elected representatives the mayor the city council uh their power was overruled by uh the governor and the emergency manager you know there’s been some federal laws obviously the infrastructure law in DC

That Biden signed um put money towards replacing lead service lines but still not all the lead service lines have been replaced in Flint uh and this is 10 years later and they have not replaced the main pipes I don’t want to get two in the weeds but it’s not just the

Service lines it’s the main pipes underneath the ground that are bursting all the time and flint and many other cities um so in terms of legislation uh not a lot I mean and it’s not just lead that was the main headline but bacteria there’s something called pasos which are

Forever chemicals that they’re finding in Flint other parts of Michigan North Carolina uh the industrial Midwest they’re they’re called Forever chemicals they’re made from the uh as a byproduct of Teflon and they cause cancer and miscarriages and all sorts of problems so you got lead um bacteria um posos there there’s a major

Water problem in this country that’s I don’t believe being fully addressed Julian first of all I want to thank you for your continuing coverage of the Flint waterer crisis um mayor Karen Weaver is a personal friend and I think the world of her um she was she lost her election because of reverberations

Around the water crisis and Governor Whitmer while many of us are fans of her as Democratic women um has been a disappointment around Flint can you speak first to uh mayor Weaver’s loss and secondly to the ways that Governor Whitmer has been disingenuous in her lack of support of

FN yeah I mean I I’ve interviewed mayor Weaver several times you know I’m a journalist I’m not standing for any one politician but she she she got a lot of heat for not Towing the line you know Governor Snider uh tried to push her uh

To say the water was better uh be to you know get businesses back into flint and she wouldn’t do it because how could you in good conscience say the water’s fine if you don’t definitely know that um I think that’s part of why she lost there’s a lot of powerful interests who

Stopped supporting her uh because she would not just declare crisis over and you know problem solved um I was surprised uh uh in her election uh when she lost um but you know she obviously ran again um I think part of why she lost honestly was the media is a problem

In this too I mean the media and Flint um you know obviously they don’t have a ton of resources but they haven’t continued investigating this residents complain to me all the time that the media stopped covering it I’ve pitched stories when I have like investigative details to the Detroit Free Press

Detroit news they don’t want to touch it anymore it it does seem like there was a bit of Flint fatigue uh in terms of Governor Whitmer listen I know obviously she there was Co to deal with and the kidnapping plot so uh it’s not all bad

But it does seem to me that this is a case of you know you you make promises and then you get in and you you simply just choose not to follow through um they have Democratic control now so they could deliver you know again the pipes didn’t magically fix themselves

Residents have damaged pipes that that water’s going it’s been told to me Jesus can bless the water and bring brand new water through brand new pipes into your curb but if the inside of your home pipes had acid water going through it for a year and a half they’re still

Going to be leeching things off um I don’t know if it’s an issue of just you know penny pinching or wanting to allocate the money elsewhere but she has not fought the fight uh the way she said she was going to for Flint there’s still residents 10 years later that are on

Bottled water it’s but it’s very expensive to keep buying bottled water so Flint has 45% poverty uh there’s a lot of residents who have no choice but to drink from the tap now because there is no free water stations and I think that there has been an effort you know I

Don’t know what’s in Governor whitmer’s head but there’s been an efforts by other legislators to sweep this under the rug and declare it over the current mayor who I think you know has some analogy to the truth Sheldon Neely uh he just says it’s about trust the water’s

Fine now well I’m talking to Residents who still 10 years later say they have rashes on their body I’m not talking about one person I’ve talked to dozens of residents over the years like the last year or two they still get reactions from the water residents tell

Me and uh the water smells uh in their Community you got to remember also not just in Flint but other parts of America the water system in Flint was built for the city when it had 200,000 residents it’s got 880,000 residents now so you have a lot of sections of abandoned

Homes where water is stagnant it’s not moving through the system fast and that creates bacteria problems too when water is stagnant through the system so there’s a lot of problems um I’ve reached out to Governor Whitner many times I’ve never gotten a response but um you know she’s still got time to do

The right thing and the right thing I you know listen Libby Montana which is 96% white they had a asbestos disaster in the the 2000s uh their Senator I believe is Max bacus he snuck into Obamacare call it what you want Universal Health Care they didn’t call it Medicare for all they

Snuck in Universal Health Care for the citizens of Libby Montana rightfully so where is the the fight for Universal Health Care and health care for life for these residents uh you got children who have permanent learning disabilities ter have regressed in learning because of the heavy metal damage uh you have

People getting cancers now I think that is one of the top things that the governor should be fighting for the Democratic party should be fighting for um and the settlement the civil settlement I got to tell you I mean I don’t live there I wasn’t poisoned but

When it’s all said and done residents when they get paid might if they’re lucky per family get about seven 8,000 I’m not saying that’s nothing but that that doesn’t even pay for a really good home filtration system in most cases not to mention the medical bills

And extra bills if you have a child with learning diffic difficulties um meanwhile again no one is in prison no one has even faced jury I’d like to see the Biden Administration the doj maybe there’s something that could be done um as far as the statute of limitations Governor Snyder perjured himself in

Front of Congress I believe Congress perjury is still a crime in America he’s never been charged with that so there’s this is I I I think it’s been framed that this has happened long ago and it’s 10 years and it’s in the past it’s still going on there’s still a problem with

The water just in December there was news articles about the lead levels are rising in Flint there’s been bacterial issues as recently as a year ago uh during the summer months there’s still bacterial issues uh so I I hope uh as this 10 year anniversary approaches uh people that have you know not

Intentionally but maybe just forgot about this realized it’s still a problem well and for the folks watching again to understand my first segment this is what happens when you don’t have uh media investment going to Black own media Outlets when you don’t have uh money going to uh independent Outlets

Then you are relying upon mainstream media and that’s not going to cut it when we talk about some of these critical issues and so Jordan Jordan we sure appreciate it thanks a bunch tell folks whe they can watch more of y’all coverage yeah we’re at status CP on

YouTube that’s C uh and we cover Flint we were just in East Palestine for the oneye anniversary of that disaster uh and you could watch us every day at 5:00 Eastern time all right Jordan thanks a lot thanks all right folks we come back you got a lot of these black Republicans

Running around just stealing money I keep telling y’all the easiest person to get money from is a white conservative and if you black a they will hook you up well clay Kane as here’s XM has a new R has a new book out talk about that very

Thing and we’ll chat with him next right here on Roland Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network next on the frequency we have an incredible conversation with my guest Nadira Simmons talking about her new book first things first hip-hop ladies that change the game the founder of Gumbo net tells us the stories behind

The women in hip-hop starting with the first woman that promoted the hip-hop party to Megan noal there’s even a chapter on me thank you so much for including me in there it’s just so like you had to me in there that’s next on the frequency on the Black Star

Network hatred on the streets a horrific scene white nationalist rally that descended into deadly [Applause] violence white people are losing their damn as an angry Pro Trump mock storms the US capital we SE we’re about to see the rise of what I call White minority resistance we have seen white folks in

This country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting I think what we’re seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial this is part of American History every time that people of color have made progress whether real or symbolic there has been what Carol Anderson at em University calls white

Rage as a backlash is the rise of the proud boys and the bugaloo boys America there’s going to be more of this there’s all the proud boys guys this country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people the fear that

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All in this together so let’s talk about it and see what kind of trouble we can get into it’s the culture weekdays set three only on the Blackstar Network Hello we’re the Critter fixes I’m Dr Vernard Hodes and I’m Dr Terence Ferguson and you’re tuned in Rolland Martin Unfiltered all right folks y’all know I ain’t got no problem calling out any of these crazy demented magga Republic Republicans especially uh the Griffon black Republicans and let me be real clear it’s a lot of black Republicans I know who legitimate who are real but what Donald Trump brought in was a whole

Crew of people and their whole aim their whole aim uh is to see here and get paid Gaslight black folks go out here say crazy stupid stuff and get people all upset and then because you got the new people like the Jason whitlocks of the

World who all of a sudden now he he entertaining races like Charlie Kirk you got of course a whole bunch of these folks out here Klay Kan Kane breaks it down in this new book it’s called the grift the downward spiral of black Republicans from the party of Lincoln to

The Cult of trump he joins us right now of course you can hear His Radio Show on SiriusXM playay glad to have you what’s happening oh my God such an honor to be here it really really is thank you so much for having me we’re glad to have

You here uh I deal with these crazy folks all the time I’ve had some of these fools on the show and when they come on here uh like I had that foood Mark Fisher oh yes and he tweeted today I said boy you should never tweet me

After I expose your lying ass uh then that fool Philip from from Indianapolis we can go on and on and on and what people don’t understand is uh this is a money game that’s what’s really at play here they are made a lot of money from these crazy white

Conservatives M no no it’s true and one of the things I love that you’ve done when they’re held accountable they fall apart that’s how you know they’re a grifter you’ve interviewed Coen pal you’ve interviewed an early version of Tim Scott a much different conversation right but when they’re held accountable

They are combative they are confused they have a script that they stick to well even when Alan West came on oh when he came on he was real sensible when he talked to me right right right but crazy out there but he knew like no I can’t pull that

with him yeah yeah absolutely and the thing is you know I wanted to write this book because the goop has mangled our political history black political history it begins with black Republicans so the original black Republicans are rolling in their graves because they were call Radical

Republicans so when you talk about after the Civil War first of all when you talk about the people who were a lot opposing Civil War and then of course after the Civil War those reconstruction amendments that was been driven by the Radical Republicans exactly exactly and

People don’t know that history so when I hear the GOP say oh black folks Republicans go back to the party of Lincoln I’m like y’all don’t even know your history y’all don’t even know recent history you hear this affirmative action conversation Arthur Fletcher yes is the The Godfather of affirmative

Action black Republican president Johnson gives a speech at Howard University where he talks about affirmative action but it’s not until Richard Nixon is elected in 68 is inaugurated in 69 and then Arthur Fletcher comes in when it’s actually put in the place and one of the people who

No one ever talks about who was one of the critical folks with Dr King and Lieutenant was Bob Brown who was one of the most powerful folks in the Nixon Administration who got a lot of stuff done but those are real black Republicans yeah exactly so it’s

Interesting like I think of someone like Senator Edward Brooke of Massachusetts he said the Negro has been evicted from the GOP we were kicked out of the party we were told you were not welcome then you’re in shock that we don’t support you so now what it’s turned into into

It’s a downward spiral of these really Insidious obvious and the GOP knows the grifter and they don’t mind paying them well speaking of Edward Brook again if people don’t understand uh you had the 64 Civil Rights Act the 65 Voting Rights Act but Republicans and Democrats filibustered the fair housing act that

He wrote it was Senator Brook who was able to break that filibuster in early 1968 and of course it wasn’t until King was assassinated in ‘ 68 uh in April when lb J sent a letter the next day saying let’s honor His Life and Legacy by passing this particular Bill uh and

So Brooke understood and so before he died he spoke out against uh these crazy uh Republicans and how they’re treating black people yeah and it’s funny it’s like uh you know they erased someone like Senator Edward Brook another name Dr trm Howard he was an abortion doctor

In Chicago a black Republican they are rasist History part of the reason why Brooke is kicked out of the United States Senate he’s pro-life he’s an he’s anti the uh the uh death penalty like I feel like if you want to uh try and call

On uh well why are black folks no longer voting Republican know your history know your history and this book calls them out well but and also understand the change in policy exactly so you can’t say you’re the party of linking Lincoln if you don’t want to identify what those

Policies were uh when it came to the 13th 14th 15th amendment uh you don’t want to deal with that they talk about oh how many Republicans voted for the various civil rights laws uh again but they don’t want to talk about it was after uh uh Barry goldwater’s book

Dropped that that served because people like William Buckley who was white they were very much in support of civil rights but it wasn’t until goldwater’s book dropped uh that changed the entire Republican party and they flipped from being pro black yeah to anti-black southern strategy Southern Strate they

Wanted to get that white conservative vote back in the South and you know I tell people that I feel like we as black folks we aren’t wedded to the r or to the D it depends on who is going to protect the most vulnerable who has our

Best interest at heart and when the GOP made that decision that we are going to marry ourselves to to former dixy crats we’re going to push uh uh the Richard Nixon narrative as as well war on black people Ronald Reagan The Welfare Queen narrative Willie Horton the 1988 uh ad

That goes under Bush like you’re obviously you shouldn’t be in shock that we’re not going to support a party that doesn’t support us I don’t care about the r or the D who who who who what what’s your policy for fair housing Fair wages Healthcare and so on voting rights

Well it’s so funny so uh I was earlier today Kim clayi who got of Baltimore again speaking of Griffon I mean she raised a ton of money to run for Congress now we all know she was going to get murdered ym F exactly you know and I’m talking about they gave her

Campaign a ton of money didn’t even live in the district didn’t even live in the district and then you had the the dude the the the dudes who ran against Maxine Waters and other I mean they gave them millions of dollars and we should sitting there going uh you know uh the

Only people getting paid are political consultants and they know the game as well well Kim dropped this video today I I cracked up laughing of course I had to respond to this but again this is the the silly stuff that folk like her will put out yeah so if you continue to vote

For the Democratic party knowing they’re giving millions of dollars in prepaid debit cars to Legal migrants there’s nothing I like I can’t help you you’re idiot you know what I mean like I there’s nothing else I could do like I could see if you thought the crime and

Violence wasn’t maybe the fault of Democrats and their failed policies I could see if maybe you know looking at Baltimore city or any inner city in this country uh the poor education system you know I could see if you were confused about whether or not that falls onto

Democrats but as you see Democrats handing out Millions the prepaid debit cards of your tax dollars to Illegal Elliots illegally crossing our borders if you can’t figure out by now the Democrat Party is a sham for that they could care less about how you feel about

It I can’t help you I can’t help you look people say you can fix a lot of things stupid A1 well what’s stupid is you also want to support a party that yells about the Border exactly gets offered an actual deal negotiated by Republicans and Democrats but they say

Don’t touch it because we want Trump to campaign that’s their dear leader and you know what’s so sad I don’t think Barry Goldwater or Richard Nixon would have predicted that people who would uphold a new version of of the southern strategy would be black Republicans they

Wouldn’t even saw that coming oh we can get black people to uphold otherism we can get black folks to uphold look over there look over there but first what’s happening here and she’s doing that and then cuz she ain’t no Jackie Robinson no she a’t no Jackie Robinson Jackie

Robinson chasti Richard Nixon because he wasn’t more pro- civil rights uh and he campaigned against bar Goldwater and he was a black Republican exactly and they called him a communist and they attacked him yeah so it’s listen I think you have to call out before it takes over

Extremism there are folks who want to be the next Clarence Thomas they want to be the next Daniel Cameron they want to be the next Tim Scott they’re hoping they can go look at Mark Robinson in North Carolina running for governor had no political experience and became elected

Lieutenant governor just for going viral because he attacked Michelle Obama and black panther made it a lieutenant governor and now now he’s the front runner for governor that’s scary that’s scary you also have some of these other people I I’ve been jousting with him uh ma teray you’ve got uh what go by

Officer Tatum oh yeah see I love he put out some video where he this was a couple years ago you know I I anybody who accepts my offer to debate about black lives matter let’s go I went that fool ain’t answered that at all Candace owens’s been running her ass

As well because again with the way they’re able and then I forgot this other dude some dude Harris or whatever again and not you got the two brothers out of Texas twins okay them fools all of them but again what they do is they get in that ecosystem and then they hype

Them up yeah and then they go oh yeah look at you you posted that you got no retweets I’m like cuz y’all are cult that’s what y’all do plus y’all live for the retweets y’all live for the likes and so what their whole aim is what the

White Republicans do they go CC we got us one we got us four we got us five and then like I even try to get sunny I believe Sunny Johnson is one of the more it’s somebody who is a republican who’s conservative who is sensible I’ll try to

Invite her on the show she she won’t accept the invitation uh but I said look when Chris mcha comes on here when Elroy sailor comes on here there new Eugene Craig they’re numerous black Republicans I have on but I tell them if you come on and you start lying exactly then it’s

Going to be a problem you don’t lie we ain’t going to have a problem we might disagree right but if you start lying right I’mma Jack your ass well that’s the blueprint they have to lie because they provide racial cover they provide racial cover for the GOP so they got to

Lie they they got to say black on black crime get off welfare Democratic Plantation I mean you literally Chicago Chicago Chicago Chicago mind you one of the most violent states in the country is Alaska according to the FBI no one ever talks about that but it’s important to listen

I’m okay with having a policy argument if you want to talk school choice regulations let do but they don’t talk policy they they they can’t even go into PO let me ask you a question you interviewed Tim Scott when he wasn’t as crazy what do you think happened oh easy

The closer he got to wanting to run for president uh it changed and also it was it was power listen when when when and I saw it happening at the end of the day uh they made he made a decision lindsy grah made a decision all of them they

Said we can’t fight this magga thing so instead of standing on principles I’m going to sit here and start kissing Trump’s ass and that’s exactly what Tim Scott did and so then uh it just it just continued and continued when I believe a Tim Scott and even a Lindsay Graham

Could have been somebody who says no I ain’t got to go that far I’m going to stand on my principles I’m not going to see Kish show behind oh but they ABS I mean Lindsay on TV you got to elect her I mean he he just he just went to a

Whole different level and that’s when you go bro I can’t respect that exactly I can’t I can’t listen to you when you Tim Scott sat here and went on Fox and lied about Donald Trump he gave more funding to HB any other president history it was a flat out lie then Tim

Scott touts opportunity zones I had the day Trump announced opportunity zones a a pastor from Baltimore was at the White House came on a show had him on the show I said I’m going check back with you in six months 6 months later that brother

Called us he said this is trash jic now I then I call the Trump White House I got the emails saying I need somebody to provide for me some data showing me how opportunity zones have actually impacted no response Tim Scott goes on Fox News and says the greatest anti-poverty

Program ever were opportunity zones now now Fox News ain’t going to fact check nothing right again and he said it’s a lie it’s a lie they cannot they and I’ve asked for it they cannot provide any data that shows who got tax breaks right and show how many people got jobs that

Pastor said all this was was was a tax break for Rich developers it was not and in fact in Maryland it was even crazy they gave tax breaks to people who were outside the opportunity zones supposedly in the same Zone you know one of the things that I’ve said is that this is

The mess the GOP created decades and Decades of terrible policies and now you’ve gotten to a point where if there were any credible black Republicans they were flushed out during the Trump era they were kicked out there’s no space for them if you weren’t willing to uphold white supremacy if you aren’t

Willing to lie if you aren’t willing to spit out the talking points and say you’ve left the plantation win some SE with her AR-15 you aren’t even welcomed anymore if you aren’t going to perform if you aren’t going to audition in that way you aren’t welcome and it really you

Know Dr King said in 1964 that he’s afraid of the GOP becoming the white man’s party that it would hurt the GOP and it would also hurt Democrats it’s unfortunate it’s an unfortunate grift it’s a downward spiral and the cck’s going to keep coming look you got folks

Like K Cole James who of course who was the first africanamerican to hit Heritage founder okay K’s conservative she’s Republican I got it and there were there was some emails that went out and I remember I was like K stop and and so uh and so I

Knew why she did it I knew sending it out but the bottom line is i’ I’ve talked to some others uh who I know very well and they’re not going on television they’re not doing these things they met privately with Trump people or whatever but they will tell you no these people

Are trash and they hate they hate these black Republican grifters they can’t stand them abely uh that was a meeting that Pence had at the White House with several black Republicans yeah and Trump made him invite uh Candace Candace Owens and so what’s crazy is when they posted the

Tweet Pence thanked everybody but her oh yeah and I was told in that meeting she said something crazy about black folks and K Cole James dressed her ass down and literally told her little girl you don’t know what you talking about in front of Vice President Pence she was grossly embarrassed I had

Some other black Republicans who told me Point Blank they said Roland we have told her you don’t know what the hell you talking about you need to go read up on policy and he they I mean one black Republican told me Roland she admitted she doesn’t know this stuff but for them

You get out there you got you a nice look yep you can sit here and you sound great and you speak fast and repeat the talking points boom boom Fox News conservative radio they will love you immensely and that’s the scary thing is that conservative media they have a

Massive infrastructure Y and when they find their black darling they will lift I mean I mean Michael steel I interview him in the book told me that that it is embarrassing they have the likes of Hera Walker diamond and silk Candace Owens that it’s it it shows the party is

Irredeemable it is demo and they couldn’t tell you one thing about ID Wells who once ran for office as a republican they couldn’t tell you one thing about the origins of where this really began it’s a shame to our history uh before I go to questions with my

Panel what was also interesting to me uh was I was on CNN and I got to find a clip and it was some black Pastor he was conservative he was going off on Reverend Jackson and so we went at it so we go into the Green Room he goes uh man

Uh we should take this thing on the road he goes man it’s a lot of money out there for this looked at his ass and I was like Ain’t No Way in the hell I’m going the road with your ass yeah see I the mo I knew when we were on it had

Nothing to do with principles exactly morals values Integrity ethics it was the money yeah and his whole deal was roll with me on this and we can make a lot of money because because these white conservatives will fund this stuff and I told him to go to hell that’s right

Roland if you came out tomorrow and said you were a trump supporter you’d be a a trillionaire within a year I’ve said that for years You’ be a trillionaire I’ve literally said with my skill set yeah if I made the decision gri to condemn black people yeah with my skill

Set absolutely yeah I would be a billionaire I abire I absolutely believe that yeah absolutely believe that you have more you have values you know polic I’m going do I’m I’m not going I’m not you’re not going to play this little game here and that’s the game that they

Actually play hold tight one second folks we’re going to go to the break we’re going to come back we’re going to take some questions from our panel we’re talking with Klay Kane about his book the grift the downward spiral of black Republicans from the party of Lincoln uh

To The Cult of trump we’ll be right back on roller Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network for the last 15 or maybe 16 years 18 years I’ll say since I when I moved to LA I hadn’t had a break I hadn’t had a vacation prob a week

Vacation here and there right this year after I got finished doing Queen sugar and we wrapped out because I knew I had two TV shows comeing on at the same time said I’m going to take a little break so I’ve been on break for the first time

And I can afford nothing praise God you know what I’m saying so I could afford it I’m like I can sit back I ain’t got nothing to worry about man but this was the first time in almost in in two decades wow that I’ve actually had time

To sit back and and and smell the RO I am Tommy Davidson I play Oscar on Proud Family louder and prouder right now I’m rolling with Roland Martin unfiltered uncut unplugged and UND damnn believable you hear Me folks welcome back we’re talking to Klay Kane his new book is called the Griff the downward spiral of black Republicans from the party of Lincoln to The Cult of trump let’s start with our questions Julian mavo you’re first absolutely clay thank you for your book I’m looking

Forward to reading it um what I’d like to know I mean I remember reasonable Republicans uh Ed Brooke certainly but there’s so many others they call them Rockefeller Republicans fiscal um conservatives social Quai liberals I mean it has to be something other than Trump that’s turned these

People into fools I mean there has there’s got there’s something there’s a secret sauce somewhere maybe it’s buried in the bowels of your book but but what else is it because I mean I’m even thinking of um what’s a guy named Gary somebody from Connecticut yeah Republican he wasn’t crazy you know

He wasn’t him Sky crazy but so what happened I I I don’t want you to give away all the secrets because we want people to buy your book but give me something more than the cult of trump so the watershed moment that I lay out in the book is Clarence Thomas he changes

The game he starts to rise in the late 7s early 1980s he speaks of this black Alternatives conference and he basically characterizes more or less his sister as a Welfare Queen he’d says horrible things about affirmative action mind you he admitted previously if it wasn’t for affirmative action he wouldn’t be where

He was Clarence Thomas perfected the grift perfected um the performance the audition that I think that is the moment where folks said okay forget about you know the Nixon eras about black capitalism I forget about Senator Edward Brooke and George W Lee and all these other folks how can I really just be

About rugged individualism and I think when Clarence Thomas did that people followed his lead and said yo I want to make this much money and I I have quotes in the book of folks slamming Clarence Thomas that he’s literally just profiting from this I mean this is he

Was a a mastermind at this blueprint of grifting and hustling so at that point the era before before and after Clarence Thomas he really be the be the beginning of the Eraser of credible Republicans I mean Senator Edward Brook disappears Arthur Fletcher who does support Clarence Thomas to the Supreme Court

Says that after he is on the court he is now leaning white I think that he found a way almost I know some folks might be offended by this almost Booker T Washington es Atlanta compromis 1890 but doing it in 1980 and he is rewarded he

Is rewarded so I think that is the watershed moment and I lay the blueprint out in the book I mean the the language um the independent thinker that all starts from him uh all these all these uh scenarios that folks follow it began with Mr Clarence Thomas but what also

What then began to also happen when you talk about that conservative ecosystem and so what then became it then became the speeches and the radio talk shows uh and so when you take a Larry Elder you take about Elmer fud Jesse Lee Peterson who can barely even talk again so what

They do is so Sean Hannity was a member of his board and so what they decided was wait a minute hold up we need black puppets Y and their deal is we need black people who we can send out and so they begin uh to latch on uh I forgot I

Forgot the sister she used to be on welfare you see her now uh a star something like that and so with so then this next way was kind of like oh we ain’t got no real Republican credentials we can get paid yeah we can we can I

Mean I I remember there was a fight between some black Republicans and I was watching the live stream and a couple of them admitted that they gried it yeah yeah they cuz they they know the game it’s like yo I can become a millionaire I could earn me four five 6 700,000 they

Going to buy your books they book you to speak they going to have you on the shows and I and I some of again off air they’ll they’ll be honest with you right what the real deal is but the the funny part is when it turns on them some folks

Got a wakeup call I mean some folks that you know JC Watts Had cover in the book in the beginning of his Congressional career he was saying some wild stuff then towards the end when he saw the G the GOP is giving him no power he he he

Realized because what happened was JC Watts was uh supposed to be uh over communication yes and when they screwed him that’s when he said wait a minute oh hell no and that’s it then he was like man look I’m out uh that was that was this sister

Man what was her name her name was crystal something oh oh um and Crystal Wright was it Crystal Wright yep yep y so so Crystal Wright I don’t know what the hell happened to her she just she Crystal Wright came on my show oh man she was sitting here just slinging I do

The game and I was kind of like child whatever and so she was taking shots at me she taking shots at everybody and I remember man when the Republican National Comm committee had a Black History Month deal David Stewart was a keynot speaker it’s 8 o00 and they

Invited me to speak invited me to attend and I sat between BRS and Stewart bro she was living now here’s what she was mad she was mad because I walked in and all these black Republicans were like hey Roland right but they all knew me right A lot of

People are already knew and so she’s hot cuz her ass in the back I said girl they don’t respect your ass and then what happened came to find out she had worked on Kendrick Meeks campaign in Florida and she had registered this black uh I forgot GOP black chick I think a month

Before the election she was trying to get a fox deal man but by the time when Trump got there she disavowed all that she took all that stuff off I think she got rid of the Twitter feed you ain’t heard from her because the Griff didn’t

Work it was over it was it didn’t work even they saw her ass a fraud this this and some folks are craftier you know some folks are going to fall apart like Stacy Dash like chrisal Wright now some folks they want to take it as far as

They could go absolutely they want to take it they want to ride to the wheels fall off mango go ahead sup clay long time no see I just saw him today at American University brother play just crushed at American University so thank you and he inspired

A lot of students and he just gave us a new term BC before Clarance as it relates to the grip anyway um you said that when whoopy Goldberg was reading your book she was really upset like just pissed off at all of the stuff she was reading but towards the end she felt

Hopeful in terms of how you ended the book what are some of the things you are giving people to give them hope in this after they finish this book so at the the last chapter is called the what’s next chapter you know I lay out the

Grift I expose the grift as I to be well says the way to write wrongs turn the light of Truth upon them I turn that light and the answer is what’s next and for me I spoke once upon a time I was a non-voter I wasn’t engaged I grew up in

Philadelphia I didn’t know Civics didn’t understand government so I really wanted to activate and Trigger the non- voter out there if you don’t do politics politics will do you I I want people to understand listen I get feeling like disenchanted I get I get understand I get the perspective that you feel like

Government isn’t on your side but the answer isn’t to uh disengage it’s to engage even more and and you talk about this Rand Martin that in 1868 we had 80% black voter turnout so I show that the answer really is in the original black Republicans and not even

Going back that far when Andrew Young ran for congress in the early 70s it was 72 when Harold Washington was elected uh mayor Chicago it was 85% can you imagine that’s how he won can you imagine if we could do that then we can vote in more people who care

About reparations we can vote in more folks who care about healthare but if you disengage you’re not winning because the other side they don’t disengage right the other side they get they get activated in fact I remember the Tallahasse Democrat I I should go back

And try to find it they did uh a graphic after the DeSantis Gillum uh race and it was the top 15 or 20 counties in Florida MH and it’s showed um the turnout participation I think you had to get to number 11 before blue County showed up

The top 10 were Republican counties I think I think Broward came in at 57 and if I mind if I remember correctly Miami day came in at 52 so the reality is had Gillum hit 65 in Broward and 60 in Miami Dave he would have been elected

Governor right and so so I’m always trying to show black folks the numbers that if white voter state right here if we go from 48 52 to 6870 we flip whole Statewide elections think about Gary Chambers Louisiana Mike espie Mississippi those are races that we could win if we have a little higher

Voting lost by 65,000 votes to Cindy H High Smith in 2018 and there were at least 100,000 black people who didn’t even vote in the election yeah I want us to C I feel like we had less power than and used our power more absolutely I want us to use

Our power more and if you don’t like what you see vote them out right vote them out show up and vote them out that’s why you have a primary system ex election system as well Derek go ahead he appreciate your book and most of your book highlights political figures um my

Question is around it looks like the Republicans are also trying to recruit uh entertainers rappers athletes um so what’s your thoughts around their strategy trying to recruit and I don’t want to mention no the well-known rappers in the last 48 hours that that came out talking about voting for uh

Trump but what’s your thoughts around uh the them trying to recruit entertainers athletes and others uh Beyond just political figures yeah I do touch on that in the book and it’s kind of funny it even goes back to the Nixon era I touch on Sammy Davis Jr and James Brown

And how they supported Nixon and the backlash that they had you know listen it’s another part of the grift that if you are um if you spit out propaganda uh propaganda is profitable and it can get you a headline on Fox news now I don’t know if they’re saying this because they

Enjoy the tax breaks or because they’re they’re misinformed they’re ill-informed but also you see that they infantilize black communities with with celebrities you know why why is sexy red even talking about Trump wh why why does she have an opinion about politics you know but these are the ways that um it makes

It seem like oh look at the black community because a rapper said it right must when and but again though but this is also this is also uh a fault even of M mainstream media agre so what they do is they you don’t see white celebrities

Speaking for white people nope okay so I remember during co uh CNN had a segment that featured Magic Johnson and and douge fresh now great respect for both dou is a friend but I was sitting there going why y’all talking to Magic Johnson and dougy fresh yeah when on my show we

Actually had black doctors yeah black infectious disease experts professors from Mahar uh what are y’all doing and so what happens is what they do is they go oh that’s who speaks for Black America well unfortunately many of them are uninformed just the other day when killer mik was on Real Time with Bill

Mah he brought up when is Biden going to apologize for the crime Bill well when I saw the deal when I saw the clip on on Twitter cuz I don’t watch Bill Mar show uh cuz look I did a show one time and he had little attitude and that wasn’t that

Was 10 years ago here’s what happened I sent Mike a text I said Mike Biden spoke on this in 2020 sure did he said bro thanks for pulling my coat on this I said anytime I got other celebrities who will call me and say hey Ro I might get

Asked this give me give me the 411 give me the break and so I will walk them through this is what’s going on this is the whole policy they go now now I’m comfortable speaking on it and so when a sexy red throws that out about

Oh oh the stemies and it’s kind of like well first of all sexy red you’re not aware there was a that was a democratic control house that passed the bill all funding bills start in the house and so if Democrats don’t vote for it Trump ain’t got nothing to sign oh did you

Also realize there was $1,500 check that went out under Biden as well and so and then they seize that and so when sexy red says something when charlot man says something when oh Snoop like yo I’m cool I’m cool with Trump oh Snoop now endorsing Trump no Trump pardon and

Trump part of this whole deal Trump was all about celebrities anyway absolutely you look at presidential medal of freedom damn near everyone he gave was to some Entertainer or or athlete lim okay and so he gave one the tiger he gave one to Bob Koozie some other

Athletes and so he was always about the celebrity so they will then amplify the black celebrity and what they said in the criticism and what I keep saying the black celebrities before you open your mouth call somebody in the know before you do because then your then your comment gets weaponized and then

Sometimes our media amplifies those comments as well and it becomes uh a big viral sensation and you see it on certain media Outlets absolutely and you’re like wow now now we have in the main in the conservative media now it’s on our media right well actually that but that actually is the conservative

Media strategy I mean Christopher rufo said it about CRT we’re going to see here and create the momentum here and then we’re going to embarrass them to run it see when I said CNN they were always scared of being getting criticized of the right and I was like

Tell them to go to hell well but they said we don’t cover it I don’t care and what people don’t understand is in these so-called mainstream news rooms when I at CNN they look at drugge report every single day I didn’t read that but again they so when they concoct

These things in conservative media they’re driving the agenda of the mainstream media and force you to cover it then they go boom we good I remember when rufo did Joy and Reed Show people like Joy you got him I was no it’s a bad move cuz rufo that’s all he wanted he

Didn’t care that you disagree with him he Now set set your lineup and I’m like you got to un it’s but that’s what I try to tell people you have to study media you have to understand how media works and and I’ll just give you real

Quick when I was at CNN drudge put out this story that says oh some of the staffers at on at at at Oprah show it was a big Ferb because she wouldn’t have a Sarah Palin on and when I saw it I went this story and so the

Producers came to me oh uh uh I never forget uh the Anderson Cooper’s producers R want to have you on the show I was like for what you see the drug report I was like this is a article they’re like what do you mean I said Oprah Winfrey said after she

Endorsed Obama she was not going to have any candidates on her show I can tell you this story is a lie and New York Post picked it up and so the whole aim was to create this Firestorm to force Oprah exactly to put Palin on I said y’all they well how do

You know I said I’m telling y’all the story is a lie I said I’ll be right back send an email to Gail came back this story ain’t true I said I know it’s not true but that’s how they play the game exactly and now with social media it’s

Worse yeah absolutely absolutely um last thing have any of these black grifters hit you up and challenge you to say you’re wrong absolutely not you know what’s funny uh when I was on The View uh we were talking about Tim Scott so Tim Scott goes on Fox News a couple days

Later and reacts to the view clip mind you it’s me sunny and whoopy talking but the only person Tim Scott addresses is Joy bear and I said oh I see what you’re doing there you go that slick Timothy that’s slick you you ain’t going to talk about the three black folks who called

You out you just focus on the white liberal Joy Bayer I said oh Timothy you still go for that check brother you want that VP slot but no but they’re welcome to reach out i’ I’d love to I I have nearly thousand sources in that book

That that book is over sourced because I want to live in a world that’s not alternative facts well look look they won’t do it and the problem that we have is thankfully The View had you on and some of these other platforms but what you also have is you got many of these

White producers who are scared to death I literally had a network host call me and say I would love to have you on my show but my white producers don’t like your title of your book White fear oh I said you do know I wrote about those

Very people in the book I said the reason we don’t have these conversations because white Executives and white producers are afraid to talk about white fear they keep calling economic anxiety I said they won’t even say white voters they just say voters yeah and and and

And this person and I then I sent this person articles from The New York Times NPR time and Newsweek which would wrote articles on the basis of my thesis I said so they all literally did stories of what my book is about but my book my book title is bad

And this just shows you again how media if you’re in charge you are determining and you’re shaping The Narrative and and refusing to have the question go forward and so hopefully these producers and Bookers will see this book and now think differently about how they book because inside these

Networks I’m going tell you I was at CNN for six years I saw it if you say something Wild crazy oh book them to go viral and I’m like but they don’t know anything mhm and what you’re doing is you’re now making the grifter more popular that’s right and all they want

Is the clip exactly exactly can I say one thing before we go it’s an honor to talk with you I’ve admired you for a very long time you are a truth teller you’re a hardcore journalist and I’ve been just following your career so it means a lot to me it really really does

To be here at the Black Star Network and I really thank you I appreciate it brother I appreciate it folks the book is called the grift the downward spiral of black Republicans from the party of Lincoln to The Cult of trump written by Klay K Klay I appreciate it man

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It and how to deal with it can be the difference between living a healthy life a balanced life or a miserable one whenever the power of fear comes along you need to put yourself in that holding pattern and breathe examine find out if there’s something that your survival

Instinct requires you to either fight or take flight facing your fears and making them work for you instead of against you that’s all next on a balanced life on BlackStar Network hatred on the streets a horrific scene white nationalist rally that descended into deadly [Applause] violence white people are losing their damn Minds

As an angry prot Trump M storms the US capital we’ve seen we’re about to see the rise of what I call White minority resistance we have seen white folks in this country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting I think what we’re seeing is the inevitable result of

Violent denial this is part of American History every time that people of color have made progress whether real or symbolic there has been what Carol Anderson at em University calls white rage as a backlash this is the rise of the proud boys in the bugaloo boys

America there’s going to be more of this here’s all the proud boys guys this country is getting increasingly racist in its behaviors and its attitudes because of the fear of white people the fear that they’re taking our jobs they’re taking our resources they’re taking our women this is white Fear [Applause] [Applause] For the last 15 or maybe 16 years 18 years I’ll say since I when I moved to LA I hadn’t had a break I hadn’t had a vacation I a we vacation here and there right this year after I got finished doing Queen sugar and we wrapped it out

Because I knew I had two TV shows come on at the same time said I’m going to take a little break so I’ve been on break for the first time and I can afford it God you know what I’m saying so I can afford it like I can sit back I a got

Nothing to worry about man but this was the first time in almost in in two decades wow that I’ve actually had time to sit back and and and smell the [Applause] RO next on the black table with me Greg Carr immigrants lured off Texas streets and shipped to places like Martha’s Vineyard and Washington DC Believe It or Not we’ve seen it all before you people in the north you’re so sympathetic to black people you take them 60 years ago

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This issue of the reverse Freedom R right here on the Blackstar Network hello I’m Marissa Mitchell a news anchor at Fox 5 BC hey what’s up it’s Tammy Roman and you are watching Roland Martin unfiltered all right folks the Grammys took place last night and there were a

Number of black folks who won awards you got you name it things happened well it was a big award uh the Dr Dre Global image award okay so they named this award after Dr Dre and it was awarded to Jay-Z uh and so a lot of people have

Talked about how Jay-Z man he called the Grammys out he challenged them when it came to Beyonce never winning album of the Year even though she’s worn more gramms than anybody else at 32 and he’s absolutely right but Jay-Z should not have been the gramy last night I’mma play y’all some

Of what he said and I want you to listen closely to what he said so watch this one it’s great to have a an award um for such an icon how far we’ve come with uh Will Smith and them Chazzy CHF and a fresh prince winning their first Grammy in ‘ 89 and

Boycotting because it wasn’t televised and then they went to like a hotel and watched the Grammys I ain’t even understand what the wasn’t a great boycott um yeah but then 98 I took a page out of that book I was nominated for the best rap album and DMX had dropped two albums

That year they both were number one shout out to DMX and he wasn’t nominated at all so I boycott it and I watched the Grammys I’m just saying we just we want y’all to get it right we love y’all we love y’all we love y’all we want y’all

To get it right at least get it close to right and obviously it’s subjective y’ don’t got to clap at everything obviously all right so Jay-Z says will jez Jeff boycot and then he boycotted cuz DMX did not get nominated and he got nominated in album of the Year

Okay rap album of the year last night wasn’t televised in fact Killer Mike swept the category and Killer Mike actually won for rap album of the Year this was in the non-televised portion here it is for best rap album the nominees are Drake and 21 Savage Killer Mike Metro boomman Nas Travis

Scott and the Grammy goes to killer mik [Applause] M tweet Atlanta is tweet you can’t God ain’t good you can’t tell me you can’t tell me you can’t tell me you cannot tell me you cannot tell me that you get too old you can’t tell me it’s too late you can’t tell me Dreams Come

True it is a sweet it is a sweet it is a sweet I’m so Jay-Z if you want to force the grammar to change you should have said I will not accept this award nor will I attend until y’all put one of the rap categories on the televised

Broadcast Dr Dre should have said I will not allow you to put my name on any award until you put at least the rap album of the year as a part of The Telecast see this is how Stuff doesn’t change stuff doesn’t change when we lend

Our presence to it and allow it to continue you heard Jay-Z say when he boycotted you heard him say Will Smith and boycott it so sure Travis Scott performed sure they’ll have a rap act perform but rap is never going to get the respect until major rappers say

Until you do right by us we are not going to show up I know other rappers Luther Campbell wrote about it in his book when the Grammys honored Madonna for the her first amendment battle when she was battling folks I think it was the video she did where she

Portrayed herself as Jesus and Luther Campbell said wait a damn minute I took my case to the damn Supreme Court of the United States and one and you’re not honoring Me Jay-Z has enough juice to say me and Beyonce will not come back until y’all make rap a part of the broadcast y’all we got to learn how to use our power we got to learn how to use our Leverage and influence and when we keep showing up at

Places that continue to minimize us that continue to disrespect us you know what they going to do they G to say keep doing it cuz they going to show up anyway they going to come and pick up the special award anyway and you say no don’t even put my

Name on it unless you do right by us see Julian this is the thing that M was talking about on April 3rd 1968 when he was talking about how do we properly use our power in order to affect change and this is what Jay-Z should have done and then he could have stood

There and said I told them I would not accept this award unless a rap category was a part of a televised broadcast and that’s why the best rap album of the year was a part of this year’s telecast and it will be a part of The Telecast from every year now on

That’s how you force some change except for the fact that integrationists want to be integrated people want to be part of the club they want to be part of the party if they didn’t want to be part of the party they would do what Jay-Z had the opportunity

To do which is say I’m G sit this sucker out no um everybody all these people they talk a black game they talk a strong game but at the end of the day they want to be a part of the club and it doesn’t matter whether their ticket

Is marked half ass or marked um sit at the back of the room a marked you ain’t valued they still got in the room um I agree with you fully uh there’s so many instances of this where black people just do not we don’t stand up for

Ourselves and if you don’t stand up for yourself ain’t nobody else going to stand up for you let me tell you something Derek man listen I I have I have been a part of stuff and um I’ve gone to places and they didn’t have room on the red

Carpet those those in Black media and I literally would say no we ain’t covering nothing until you create a spot I I’ve literally been somewhere look I’m going take there’s a hold on stay right there Hillary Clinton was first lady of the United States see this photo right

Here I come to the other shot all right this photo was shot at the m center I shot it at the MLK Center in Dallas okay this when she was first lady all right let me tell you what happened the m center is literally about a 100

Yards across uh from the Dallas weekly the black newspaper where I was the managing editor so I knew she was coming and so what happened was I then said I went over to the m center about 3 hours before she was supposed to get there and

So they walk so they had two rooms they had a room to the right then had a room to the left well the room to the left they had these lights set up and I said um I said um what’s going on in this room and they said oh well the first

Lady is going to be in this room and she’s going to talk to some of the kids and the photographers are going to get a photo of the first lady with the kids I said well who’s in The Press pool they said oh um the Dallas Morning News the fort warstar

Telegram the Associated Press and UPI and they may have said Reuters I said wait a minute ain’t no black media no black own media in the Press pool in the press press pool they said no I said M ain’t no way in hell the first lady

Going to come to Black South Dallas to to the m center with a black paper less than 100 yard across the street and ain’t nobody black in the damn press pool uh well sir and I was mind you I was managing editor of the Dallas weekly

At the time and it was like well uh well sorry uh the um the uh uh the Press pool is already set I said you need to go find the advanced person because the first lady is not going to come to Black South Dallas and a black paper is across

The damn street and ain’t nobody from the blackowned media a part of this press pool so person walked out came back uhh uh Mr Martin uh you’ve been added to the Press pool I said yeah I thought so that’s how that photo was shot that’s

How it ran in the paper and for all y’all who are listening find the photo the photo that we all know of Bernice King sitting on the lap laying on the lap of ketta Scott King in his funeral Monita Monita sleep with Ebony magazine was the first African-American

To ever win the pulit priz for photography for that photo do you know how that happened it’s because because Lon Bennett and Simeon Booker went to ketta Scott King and told her the White media has locked Ebony and Jet out of the press pool there was a segregated press pool covering the

Funeral of Dr King and they said Mrs King they are not going to allow Ebony and jet to be in the Press pool and ketta Scott King said you make it perfectly clear that if Ebony and Jet are not in the Press pool there will be no press

Pool the white racist allowed Ebony and jet in the Press pool and that’s how sleep got that photo and it won the pul of Sur prise this is what happens when some somebody black saying no we ain’t doing this and so Jay-Z it’s great that

They wanted to give you the Dr Dre award that’s great but Jay-Z and Dr Dre should have said ain’t going to be no award until y’all make rap a part of a televised broadcast Derek that’s how you take a stand you know rolling through the examples that you’ve

Provided it’s one thing to have power but it’s something else to communicate that you’re willing to sacrifice your position see you didn’t you didn’t say hey let me not say anything in fear of losing my job no you are bold and you’re upfront on your principles and your

Values here’s the thing uh that we got to really understand about the use of our Collective power and individual power if you’re not willing to sacrifice see the Montgomery Bus Boycott Roland was successful because they realized their power but they also demonstrated that for 300 plus days they’re willing

To sacrifice they’re willing to walk they’re willing to not wage on their principles and their values Muhammad Ali was powerful because he demonstrated hey I was sacrifice these heavyweight belts to make sure that you understand my platform and my voice that’s the reason why we got to move from having moments

And turn them into movements but we’re not going to be successful with movements if we’re not willing to sacrifice and so last night you didn’t see someone that exercise the use of their power because they’re not willing to sacrifice and saying I’m not showing up until you make the change it takes a

Level of sacrifice to do exactly what you’re asking us to do yeah and and and all I’m saying is this here if Jay-Z says to all the rappers we ain’t going to the gramys we are not going to the gramys next year until the rap album of

The year is a part of the live telecast and let’s see them say no and then we turn and say and if you are our allies of artists you stand with us and you know what you do you throw an event somewhere else and you don’t turn the

Damn TVs on you have something else going on but this is the only way otherwise the the gramys they going to keep doing it they going to sit here and say yeah we ain’t got to put y’all on y’all going to show up anyway y’all

Going to show up and be happy in the pre-show and we going to do all the other Awards they could have easily listen the the in Memorial was long as all get out they could have cut one of the perform all I’m saying is we there a

Certain point when you allow people to disrespect you because you don’t use your power to say not anymore it ain’t going to happen again so Jay-Z Dr Dre y’all make it clear whoever they want to give the award to next year you make it clear we ain’t showing up unless y’all

Make the rap album of the year a part of the broadcast I guarantee you it’s going to cause some folk to say we better do it or we going to lose the star power and they ratings were up this year you pull a star power ratings go down when

Ratings go down they lose money and we know in America when they lose money stuff changes dere julon mango had to go I appreciate y’all being on part of today’s show uh folks listen we going to speak this truth regardless we ain’t asking for permission the reason we were

Able to speak as freely is cuz frankly I own it I keep telling y’all the only person who can cancel me is God we don’t seek permission we don’t run our subjects by anybody nobody the power of blackowned media as Dr King said is to maintain its militancy in standing up for black

People what we have to do is use our power and not be afraid and not back down and speak an uncompromising and unfiltered word every single day that’s what she did out be Wells Barnett that’s what Mr B did that’s what James Ballwin did we got to have the same courage that

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