I get out for 6 months and I go back in and do a nine piece and which I had to do s years 8 months so 12 total how do you get the nine piece I accidentally hit a cop with um a car during a highspeed Chase wait what yeah I
Accidentally hit a shout out to all law enforcement officer wasn’t intentional you got to share the story on today’s episode I’m excited to have Steven Testa better known as EI the king as my guest Steven will Enlighten us about his adventurous past marked by a pension for high-speed Pursuits and
Police chases he’ll delve into the circumstances that led to his imprisonment offering a firsthand account of Life Behind Bars including his experiences with the infamous booty Bandits and snipers in prison get ready for an eye-opening look into the world few have witnessed from the inside if you enjoy the locked in podcast remember
To leave us a review on Apple or Spotify and subscribe to the Ian bck YouTube channel now let’s sit back relax and get ready to lock in with EI the king how how do you get the nickname EI uh it stands for Eternal influence it’s like
My rap name I like that yeah EI the king but just EI for short yeah I saw the e that’s what I we talked on uh Instagram right first that’s where I connected with you yeah yeah awesome yeah sometimes people like fill out the form
Online and they have to like bump it up by like I try to go through it like many of my Instagram messages as possible but some like there gets to be so many and this I feel bad when I don’t respond to people too yeah um but I’m working on it
That’s real do but uh eii thank you so much man for coming out today um you had a long journey to to get here man of course where’ you come from I came from Tampa Tampa Florida Tampa shout out to Tampa yeah shout out to Florida man yes
Sir did you grow up in uh Tampa no I’m originally from Houston man um but I mean I was raised in Florida Sarasota County so I think my mom divorced my father when I was three and then took us to uh Florida so I grew up in Florida I
Went to Houston Houston for the first time this time last year and I loved it but I like Austin more but Houston was fun yeah Austin’s dope too but I just love Houston though I’m there every month I record in Houston music so I’m there all the time it’s a different kind
Of vibe in Houston it’s not as like crazy as uh Austin I guess it’s more laidback no I would say the other way around oh it’s crazier houon Houston’s lit yeah Houston’s crazy I guess where I went it wasn’t like all like compacted like City like I forgot what’s a the
Famous area in Houston um I’m not good about City or anything I don’t know where you’re talking about far like downtown in Houston yeah yeah um I don’t even know yeah it was like where all the airbnbs are like kind of like outside the city a little bit um I don’t know
Yeah I couldn’t tell you but anyways man yeah thank you for coming man it’s a pleasure um I think the audience is going to be excited to see all like the knick-knacks he brought on it’s going to be a very uh special show sir um and
Excited to jump into it of course um and I I think you had something for us you want to get into yeah I was just telling you bro because uh of course you know share my experience in prison you know and all my prison stories but it’s kind
Of hard for me to do that unless I like tap in or lock in you know what I mean from my prison experience and part of the way that I do that is uh I got to throw on the uniform dog you know so if
You don’t mind you know we can go ahead and uh put on our Florida Chain Gang Blues real quick all right what you steal them out of the prison man I can’t I can’t give you details how I got them but I got them bro what do we got oh
Man brought the whole outfit man Florida Florida just a one piece right man I feel like a uh what is it like a dental hygienist or like the scrubs a doctor right now RN or something hey uh Skyler how do I look out there angle still
Good I got my brother working for us today it’s his first day on the job so hopefully he doesn’t screw up and uh get him fired you know um so what’s the impact for this for you why why these yeah the reason cuz you know I got my
Own podcast whatever and I tell prison stories what’s the you got to plug it what’s the name yeah of course man it’s called the incarceration podcast and uh I just talk about how prison forever changed my life you know like as far as my experience you know in the past the
Present today and then as far as like in the future you know just how throughout all the years of me being incarcerated over 12 years being institutionalized at a young age juvenile programs Juvenile Detention and then of course adult prison for 12 years how that you know radically transformed my life you know
So whenever I B these on and I keep my ID my Florida DC card and my wallet at all times and I do it to Champion what I experienced because ultimately the Lord transformed my life while I was incarcerated but it’s something that I will never forget and I purposely will
Never forget it’s my why and the reason why I do everything that I do that’s awesome man people busted my chops all the time for carrying around that card cuz I have the federal inmate One the red one I added my wallet for a while I
Had it in my car and then now it’s in my office wall um but some people don’t understand unless there it’s symbolic I’m never getting rid of that thing uh even though it says I’m like 6’2 on it which all my friends know is the biggest
Croc of [ __ ] I’m 5’11 you know you got to round up um so eii tell us about where you came from like uh your early Roots where like what was childhood like for you yeah of course man I think a lot of people they can look at me they see
Me tatted with braids and I’m a rapper and I’m kind of like gangsteri whatever all the years in prison people would automatically assume that I come from like poverty stricken Community I come from the hood and that’s not the truth at all you know we you know we lower
Middle class but Sarasota County in Florida is one of the richest counties in Florida and the city that I grew up in I grew up in in Sarasota County is Venice so this like Retirement Village nothing but old white people you know so I was brought up you know in the BBS and
Uh I was an athlete the majority of my childhood father wasn’t in the home I found my identity my purpose and my belonging on the football field uh long story short just because my pops wasn’t in the home looking for like affirmation and acceptance from older men and my
Homeboy’s older brother was a big dope boy he come to the football games with a mouthful of Golds and chains on I was a leader of the football team captain of the team so I was naturally a leader but I seen the leadership that he had in the
Streets and how everybody looked to him and it was cool to me you know what I mean it was like attractive and of course with hip-hop culture and uh long story short around 13 you know I started smoking weed drink in fighting a lot shortest kid on the football team
Shortest kid in every grade hit puberty late short man complex felt like I had to prove my point to everybody um Not only was I fighting a lot but when I started smoking weed I realized that I could actually smoke for free if I sold
It then I realized not only could I get weed for free but I could make money and then I realized I could also be a leader in the streets and that be to like slowly well not slowly but quickly lead me to spiral out of control fighting a
Lot getting expelled from high school to high school going to juvenile programs Juvenile Detention and just getting institutionalized at a young age and of course selling marijuana to immediately switch to cic Pills and cocaine and crack and just hanging out with a whole bunch of older ogs in the streets and
I’m super young but to me I’m finding and I’m looking and I’m searching for my validation and my fulfillment in the streets and of course because I’m ineligible from school getting expelled I can’t play football that was my new purpose was a street lifestyle and just
Spiring out of control do you think if you had that feeling of like acceptance and whatnot and and maybe even popularity or you got that attention you wouldn’t have traveled down that path I mean I was I was super popular in school I was you know captain of the team I was
A star like Jack when I was younger I think you know when you’re a kid you’re not consciously aware of like how you feel inside you’re just like a broke her kid you don’t know why you’re acting out you don’t know what you’re really looking for looking back now as a mature
Man healing and like progressing past that I can look back and analyze it correctly but then as a kid I didn’t know I was just a hurt kid and I think it was really just you know just me looking for you know valid ation from probably like older men cuz I was
Looking for like a father figure so I look up to like the dope boys and I didn’t have to you know I mean I put myself in that I thought it was cool cuz it was glorified from hip-hop culture and I thought my cousin like my homies
Cousins and my dog’s older brother I thought they were the coolest people I knew cuz they were older and they were getting money and it would looked flashy you know what I mean so I think I was just attracted to it and I willfully you know chose that route and I think that’s
Totally normal too cuz a lot of adults don’t even know how they were feeling as a kid and they don’t even face that until they’re older when they act a certain way their relationships theirs now and they’re like oh that’s triggered by from my childhood that’s when we’re into it yeah
That’s what you kind of see all the time that’s what like when you go see a therapist or whatnot they’re trying to dig out what affected you in your childhood and I think that’s important element to the stories that we share on this because you were for the most part
A normal kid yeah like however people came to judge you later on that wasn’t you in the beginning that’s like ground zero that’s your starting point if we have like your best friend with you today here at the studio what would he say about you what are like three traits
Or or four traits he would say about you uh number one he’ say I’m crazy I’m a lunatic man even now still do a good outside of the streets I’m still crazy I’m a goofball uh but especially back then I was wild and I just didn’t care
But ultimately is because I didn’t care about myself you know I mean I realize that again now I didn’t care then because I didn’t care about myself so I was just throwing everything away so he would say I crazy um he would say that I’m a Visionary I’m a go-getter I’m a
Hustler I was a dope boy then and now even though I don’t hustle illegally now I still hustle legally so I’m a go-getter I’m a Visionary I chase I run down what God burs in me for vision I don’t stop I’m consistent I think I’m the hardest worker I personally know and
I think my best friend would say that about me too um also too as far as most importantly you know the faith aspect of my life that I’m a Jesus freak you know I mean I’m obsessed with Jesus God transformed my life and not only do I
Radically pursue Jesus but God uses me to now reach the streets with the gospel so I’m missional you know I mean I’m a preacher I’m a pastor um Street Pastor you know so uh and then maybe lastly um weird I’m a weirdo we’re all weirdo in
Our own ways so yeah do you think if you had that passion for your faith back then it would be different like you it seems like maybe before you were chasing something different now you have something good to chase which I relate to in a lot of ways because I believe in
What I believe in and I very like spiritual and like I believe everything happens for a reason and whatnot and I chase after that and I live by that so is that something similar to you yeah I would definitely say it would probably prevented me uh but I tell people all
The time like cuz I go into prisons now I go to prisons throughout the nation and I speak I preach and teach and perform and all that so one thing that we always champion in our ministry block hustle when we go back into prisons we
Tell like the dope boys like yo that’s a god-given gift we just pervert it in the streets so I think likewise with myself like the hustle ambition the being wild and crazy robbing people kicking indoors whatever those are like courageous gifts that that God gives us naturally but we
Just pervert it in the street so yeah definitely when God began to transform my life and I discovered my purpose that became my driving force in life so I think before that there was like a driving force based upon the god- giv gifts but there was no like end aim I
Didn’t know what I was chasing I was chasing Street fantasies and it did nothing but lead to destruction I was chasing the wrong thing the driving force was towards the wrong direction what do you think would have been like a great program they could have had to
Offer you at school kind like kept you on track cuz we have a lot of like teachers and and therapists and professionals that watch the show probation officers and they that’s what they’re curious about they want to know what what they could do to to to change
Someone’s life of course a a principle in Ministry is called native on Native that’s the best like effective Ministry and what they mean by that is like for instance prison ministry the best prison ministry hands down is convict on convict and not a convict from the outside but inmat Le Ministry because
They live together that’s the most impactful Ministries like the inmate organic Le Church inside prison but also the Ministries coming in the most effective normally are the fellow convicts when we come in so I feel like the best programs that schools or prisons or jails could offer is to find
These youth these young boys and girls who are starting to like get like distracted with Street lifestyle whatever it would be is to find men and women who they can look up to that they can identify with who’s been there they’re not going to listen to some teacher who ain’t never been where
They’ve been at you know what I mean they need to look up to people who look like them who’ve gone through what they’ve been through and people who they can actually look up to and kind of idolize and they’ll be able to walk alongside them in life and Mentor them I
Think that’s the biggest thing man is mentorship actually investing time with people pouring into them I agree and and it’s the lived experience aspect which is why I think I find myself in such a unique position because it’s not every day you have a podcaster that is able to
Build a platform where the host is someone that has been to prison and I’m sure you could relate to that because you have your own podcast too but there’s very few of us in the in the world that are like that that have these platforms and are sending a positive
Message I’m not talking about the platforms where it’s like you go on it it’s just like glorifying crazy Stu I mean we’ve been talking you know like almost 20 minutes in it we haven’t even gotten into the prison stuff so I think um there’s a power in that and I’m as I
Get older and as I continue this journey I’m kind of learning how to to harness that and realize like that there’s a voice to be used here for a lot of good and I think that’s what keeps me going too sure bro shout out to all the
Convicts out there who doing right with their platform Man Forever convi that’s the brand forever convict bro we Champion where we came from oh that’s your T-shirt sir one of those I’ll rock it on forever convict man we Champion where God delivers and transformed our
Life at cool and and for we’ll plug you at the end of the episode too but for people listening you know we’ll have like your link and in the description and everything and whatnot to your podcast your website your social media all that so where do things start to
Take a turn for the worst cuz it’s not the end of the world to sell some weed it doesn’t sound like you were like a Kingpin at that age either right yeah you just a typical person yeah well how I mean first of all how normal was it to
Sell weed back then what time period are we talking about so I was probably 13 14 said I I’m 20 I’m 33 so that had to be like 03 04 it was really like the summer break between like 9th grade to high school excuse me 8th grade to 9th grade
You know Middle School to high school it’s really when things started spiraling so um I mean of course it was common you know what I mean um but I think that I immediately started selling like pills like Aderall Xanax and then cocaine especially crack at a young age
You know what I mean I remember taking the bus to the hood in my city and I’m like at the Trap or on the block with these older dope boys who are in a late 20s you know young 30s or some of these guys who are 40 years old and I’m a
Little white boy from the suburbs you know what I mean who’s forcing myself into this environment and I already knew like everybody my age like from the hood so people already knew who I was but I was intentionally like positioning myself in like the worst possible circumstance in life you know what I
Mean because I wanted to be a dope boy Scarface became my favorite movie whatever like I think a lot of comics we have like a no we have like a balance problem we don’t understand moderation either all the way in or all the way out
You know so I was all the way in the streets you know I wanted to be you know Scarface I wanted to get as much cocaine and crack I could so I’m selling dope you got a young age on the corner in the hood you know serving cars coming
Through and trying to buy large amounts of Co and figure out how to cook it you know what I mean so anyways uh I was never the big Kingpin never you know what I mean that was always the dream you know what I mean around like 16 17 I
Buy like ounces of cocaine and things like that and you know get it cooked up and you know sell crack and once again too Sarasota is one of the richest counties in Florida so we didn’t like Petty hustle you know what I mean everyone’s chasing money like money
Money you know most of clientele they spend a lot of money you know their business owners or you know they addicts but most of these like clientele that we had you know they’re functioning addicts and spending a lot of money um but I would say things really started
Spiraling um like I said I got expir from school for fighting and then whenever I was in eligible from football and I lost my purpose I forfeited it because of me being in the streets and not having good grades is I didn’t have an outlet anymore I didn’t have a
Purpose I didn’t have an identity so you know my full new identity was you know the streets and that’s when I just started caring you know and I I remember like being on my first juvenile program and it was like a six-month program it’s based upon points I kept failing every
Week just because I’m being crazy cussing out the police and fighting and getting in trouble and we had to go to counseling every week and I remember the counselor sat down with me in one session I never talked I’m a hot-headed jit not friendly I’d sit there with a
Little eter sketch and want say nothing because you mandatory have to do it once a week and I remember I had to start over this six this six-month program and I’m already at my fifth month because I kept fighting he told me like I had to
Start it over and he was like Stephen he’s like why do you keep fighting I never forget and I remember looking at him with tears in my eyes I’m like bro I don’t care I don’t give a f about anything and I genuinely meant that he knew I played football he said well
Listen the football you give football your aame why are you giving life your FG game and I didn’t say anything but I remember going back to like my room in that program and something began to turn like then I think I really began to like become aware that I didn’t care about
Myself and I was throwing my life away and of course I didn’t change routes I just kept spiraling you know yeah do you think that if you were given a second chance of football it it would have been different for you could you have avoided
Prison uh or were you destined to to go down that path regardless honestly I probably like even if they’d let me play football it probably would have helped maybe detour the the intensity of how fast I spiral because you know I went to prison at 18 my graduating class was
Walking getting their High School diplomas I’m walking down prison hallways you know I mean getting my GED uh I think it probably would have slowed it down but I I was going to prison bro I already I wanted the streets I wanted that lifestyle that was inevitable for
Me my mom called me my 18th birthday she said just so you know I’m not going to bond you out I’m like dang M it’s my birthday she’s like I’m just letting you know you’re going to go to jail you’re not a kid anymore you’re going to go to
The adult County jail and I’m not going to bond you out 18th birthday shout out ma she been riding with me forever love you Ma what a phone call now you use the word jit camp and that’s something 1090 Jake said all the time on it and that’s
I’m guessing a Florida thing Florida what’s a jit Camp I never got to ask him about it but I’m sitting here like what the [ __ ] he keeps saying jit like a thousand times yeah yeah shout out to 1090 man putting off for the convicts and especially the Florida prison system
So in Florida they have what is called jit Camp it stand it’s it’s know jits like a Florida slang but in the Florida criminal justice system they have a youthful offender program to where when people go to prison for their first time and I think if they’re under the age of
25 rather than going to an adult prison they can go to a youthful offender prison which is still adult prison but it’s 25 and under and they do that to protect the youth from like the the booty Bandits you know what I mean like these old school convicts who’ve been
Taking booty they whole bid you know so they do that to protect them but in all actuality jit Camp’s way worse you know it’s Gladiator school that’s the nickname for it so you can either get sentenced to youthful offender Prison from the judge which normally you can
Get like I think uh you can get a lesser sentence that’s normally like a route to kind of take a plea and kind of get spared from the court um or that even if you don’t get sentenced as youth offender like I didn’t get as youthful
Offender I took an adult plea I’m like I don’t want to go to jit Camp you know what I mean I want to go to the adult side but even though I didn’t get sent as youthful offender the state Florida Department of Corrections classified me
As a w because I was 18 M so right when you go to Orlando they say here go he’s a red hat jit going to jit Camp did you experience any uh booty Bandit scenarios oh not at jit Camp n um I had maybe some uh some like awkward moments I was a
Confinement orderly normally like in prison especially in Florida Department of Corrections whenever you start doing things on your jacket they they have you keep doing that so I was always a confinement orderly so I went to prison three times first time 18 third time by
The time I was 23 so every time I go to prison because they always seen on my Jack out was a confinement orderly so I think I just remember one time obviously whenever you grow up in the prison system you know there’s booty Bandit so
Being a young white boy you got to have like a unit on your face you know what I mean you got to cuz if you look scared and if if you look weak man people are going to pray on that you’re shark bait you know so I think you know above all
Being a young but once again too I lived a street lifestyle so I wasn’t of course internally yeah I’m terrified scared you know what I mean but you just got to you know kind of put the mask on uh but like I said the confinement story I think the
One moment I can really remember being tried I’m passing out trays you know cuz a confinement orderly you go to their cell you know in confinement and you pass you put the tray in their flat and uh I forget what he said he said something he’s like ooh you know some
Old school black dude you know he’s like oh white boy white you know saying something crazy so I kind of ignored at first when I hand him the tray but while I’m walking down the hallway I still hear him saying something about like how fine I am and those red lips or
Something so I remember after I’m done passing out trades and I made sure the officer went at the officer station I pulled back up on the door and I banged on the glass to come here bro I said don’t ever disrespect me like that again
In life bro don’t ever he all right my bad respect respect and because you you got to do that you know what I mean because if you don’t say anything even though he’s in confinement he’s behind the door still you got to have that you got to operate like that in prison you
Know what I mean even if I wasn’t on that in prison got transformed my life in Chang g I was doing Ministry work but still you got to conduct yourself like in an assertive way you can’t let nobody disrespect you so a confinment orderly doesn’t that have a lot of position of
Power cuz you’re like the middleman to get notes to people course they shooting kites yeah they’re shooting kites they and for anyone that doesn’t know a kite is like a message um Contraband I guess if you have to what are some situations you’ve been in as that yeah honestly too
Bro um I used to fake I used to face Conflict for not shooting kites you know me because once again like I was sharing with you before while I was incarcerated I encountered Jesus for real and he completely transformed my life so I’m I’m trying to do right in the side of
The Lord so the best way the best thing that I would do for the guys locked up cuz of course you feel for them boys me I’ve been in confine I’ve done three months before behind the wall you already know how it is it sucks so what
I would do I try to look out for everybody by passing out extra trades for free you know what I mean cuz i’ be bless I have money on my books that’s a hustle as a can as a confinement or you sell trades you know what I mean for
Stamps or for Hygiene or whatever so I’m just blessing them boys I’d take like one day I’d switch each cell door and I just give just random trays and I try to keep it even because I go to each door the next day um but yeah some guys would
Get obsess upset with me because I wouldn’t take kites back there but for the most part whatever pound I was on like I had a reputation everybody knew who I was I wasn’t you know like I said I wasn’t whing out gang banging living some Savage lifestyle I was
Authentically following Jesus and it was real and people knew that and if anything I ministered more to the gang bangers and I had relationships more with the guys who were the Violent ones on the compound so everybody knew how I was living but there were times especially when I was younger to where
People get pissed at one bring back kites or whatever but the worse position than that I was a butcher man a butcher in prison yeah well not really don’t give you knives they just call it the butcher man in food service cuz you’re in the freezer and you have like all the
Hamburgers all the chicken and all that so uh that was a more conflicting situation than anything because probably making bank well that’s where everybody wants to steal at you know what I mean so if anything while like I said I was trying to do righteous in the sight of
God I didn’t want to steal I didn’t want to like you know I mean help people by stealing so I had to stand in the paint as far as like standing on righteousness and doing right and that’s where I actually learned to become assertive for
Doing good you know what I mean I mean I I’ve always wondered is it tactically stealing if you’re taking that food that’s in like the prison kitchen that you’re literally getting getting paid cents to work at like being in prison is one thing but they’re not even paying
You a fair wage not at all not even in not in uh Florida you don’t get paid at all you don’t get paid at all no unless you’re a canteen man or a shine guy yeah so I don’t know if that’s technically I guess it goes on both ends I feel like
Maybe it’s stealing if you’re taking away from another enate but a lot of the times they’re just given tiny ass portions and it’s not like you’re taking food out of the mouth of another inmate at all of course yeah but what I meant by though is that they’re trying to take
Like cases upon cases okay yeah I mean I eat as much as I want everybody does back there you know but they’re just trying to like they’re trying to steal the whole freezer I remember guys walking out with raw meat like a brick raw hamburger meat or something guys
Would throw that in the microwave yeah so 18 you go in and then you go in again uh between 18 and 23 these are just like short sentences right yeah the first bid I did 2 and a half years from 18 to 20 two and a half years I get out I was
Only out for eight months I went back in did another two years I get out for 6 months and I go back in and do a nine piece and which I had to do s years 8 months so 12 total how do you get the nine piece I accidentally hit a cop with
Um a car during a highs speed chase wait what yeah I accidentally hit a shout out to all law enforcement officers wasn’t intentional you got to share this story yeah um remind me to tell you too how I got handcuffed out here this time and I
Felt like it was a Redemptive moment for me to be able to like show love to the police okay um so for the first time in my life I get out of prison the second time and bro I’m genuinely trying to follow Jesus and do right um so I’m not
In the streets I refuse to sell drugs I’m trying to be a father to my kids and do right so I’m actually for the first time in my life working a job I’m Roofing um and I’m going to church I’m not really involved in Ministry but I
Think something I missed out on cuz I grew up like in prison in like juvenile programs I never really experienced a night life I’ve been to a club and strip clubs a few times but I was more trapping and getting money than anything while I was out so I never really
Experience a night life so a lot of my homies who I grew up playing football with they went to college and they came back to the city and they’re like ex-f Frat Boys so they go out all the time and drink so rather than hanging out
With my homies who are in streets I try to switch my you know peer group again and start hanging out with my my dogs who are play football with because they’re not IND the street selling drugs so now because I’m hanging out with them now I start going out with them on the
Weekend so now I’m going to clubs and bars all the time so long story short you know just me being a fighter and being aggressive naturally uh even though I wasn’t living that lifestyle anymore while drinking it would be common to where sometimes I get in fights or altercations at bars and clubs
So this particular night I get in a fight in the club I get kicked out of the club and then keep in mind now to this day I have no memory of this night this is just what I know from my paperwork and from what people told me
Only brief flashes so I get in a fight in the parking lot knock out a guy he’s left unconscious while I’m leaving the scene this is where my paperwork says while I’m leaving the scene in my vehicle the police officer standing in the road ex screaming for me to get out
Of my vehicle I won’t move he says I rev the engine he draws out his firearm and then I floor it and then I hit him he rolls on top of the car supposedly trying to like aim his firearm within the windshield and then I throw him off
The vehicle by turning the wheel I try to hit another police officer and then put him on a highspeed chase and in Sarasota Florida there’s what there’s called Royal Palms they’re like two stories high and they’re like palm trees then they’re like this thick so I
Derooted two of them because I was going like 900 something and the Nissan Ultima 2009 drot two of them my seat belts snaps airbag doesn’t deploy it ejecting from the windshield however many yards femur snaps through my thigh and I get all Bay flighted to the hospital you got
Ejected through the windshield yeah holy [ __ ] so because of the car accident I don’t remember anything I wake up in the hos by the way none of that happened I barely nipped the officer’s leg with the vehicle that’s what from people who were there that night on the strip scen and
Like that’s what I heard you know but to this day I have no recollection of that entire night I have brief flashes throughout the years of of incarceration I would have dreams or brief flashes of like the accident and things like that because I guess I lost my memory from
The accident so you’re saying the report is different from eyewitness accounts yeah of course what do you believe I don’t believe I would never gun him down intentionally I believe that he walked in front of the vehicle and I didn’t see him and I accidentally hit him he didn’t
Even get hurt he had minor abrasions to his leg even under the use of substances you don’t think you would have done that nah I’ve always been crazy but I had no reason to bro I mean it’ be different I went to prison the second time for speed
Chase and I know i’ do that cuz I had a whole bunch of dope in the car you know what I mean so I had to get rid of the dope well allegedly you know me this is your second high speed chase yeah I’ve been in i’ probably been in three or
Four you’re the high speeded chase guy I was known for that had a car full of dope they wasn’t they wouldn’t get the dope but they eventually catch me you know in Florida are they allowed to continue the chase like I know up here they have to stop after I think a
Certain they can’t pursue you I’ve never had them stop chasing me so they continue to chase you yeah where they throw spikes well no because remember I hit the I hit the palm trees no saying the first time the second time the the second time went to prison um no I toed
The vehicle at a 99 cadal Cadillac DeVille and I toted it in 41 and I had them like on a foot chase for like 3 or 4 hours they had dogs helicopters and they finally found me like 4 hours later sprawled out on the ground oh man ninjas
With masks and the dogs so what’s the logic behind getting into a chase like that are you just trying to save yourself at all costs well yeah and because like I said I had dope in the car you know what I mean if I get caught with the dope or allegedly what could
Have been in the vehicle you know then that would have been a lot more time you threw it out the window allegedly so but listen back to this back to the the last time I went to prison with the hid in the carop yes so
The hit in the carop bro I wake up in the hospital in the ICU bro 3 days later with two officers in the room cuff to the bed I wake up remember now femur shattered all messed up I’m banged up I wake up and I see two cops in the room
And I’m like what happened what happened and they’re like you about to get life so I’m like what happened and they they refused to tell me what happened so the nurse is coming in I’m like please tell me what happened and she’s like you got
In a car accident so I’m thinking of my my homies who I was with that night I’m like are they all right are they all right she’s like who are you talking about you’re about yourself I’m like what about the person I hit are they okay she like you didn’t hit anybody you
Hit a tree so now I don’t I’m I’m clueless bro you know what I mean I’m cuffed I’m scared I know I’m going back to prison so then the detective comes in the room I think like the next day so right when he walks in I said bro I
Ain’t got nothing to say good I already know he’s trying to like get me to say something so he stays in the room and he’s talking to the officers I think he was telling them the story trying to TA me hoping like I would like interject or
Say something but I’m just playing POS him listening to him while he’s talking to the cops and he tell and he for the first time is when I hear everything and he says that story so I remember just laying in the hospital bed like dog I’m
F to face like 25 years of life cuz in Florida they got PR you know prison release act to where if you commit one of those crimes you getting 15 out the gate you know so I knew I was facing a lot of time that time and where was your
What about your mom is she coming to visit you is she getting you a lawyer while you’re sitting in the hospital at all um yeah I talked to my mom uh she’s just happy I was alive I mean shut up my my Mom love you Mom she’s real one she
Held me down forever um so yeah she got me a lawyer while I was in the county jail and you know of course I think I had some money put up from like Roofing or whatever and I had one and only plea deal and it was the and this is how I
Know my case was B rickle dog that’s how I know I didn’t do what they accuse me of because there was one and only plea deal which was 9 years and if I didn’t take it the threat was they would HV me habitual violent offender AC me or PR me
Which enhances the points and I’m facing like I said at least a minimum 15 my charges was aggravated battery with like on a law enforcement officer aggravated battery with the deadly weapon on law enforcement officer aggravated battery on the civilian whatever so I’m facing 66 years just with these charges so the
They had me on my lowest permissible points which was nine years so how that’s how I knew out the gate that man I I didn’t gun him down and he didn’t hit the hood like they said he just got nipped in the leg bro was there any part
Of you that wanted to fight the case to get the trial definitely not I no no no way I know there’s nothing to there’s nothing to win you know what I mean like there’s nothing to win with the body cams and the footage the lawyer told me
Out the gate you know how it is it’s politics bro it’s all politics lawyer told me out the gate bro we’re not going to deposition any Witnesses or any of the cops he’s like I’m telling you now you need to take this your lowest permissible or they’re going to hang you
What do you want to do it’s not if you FaceTime I can’t beat anything you know even though I don’t remember it I know I got in a highs speeded Chase and I still hit the cop in his leg there’s nothing to take the trial cuzz if I lose that
I’m dead so the lowest permissible it sounded good to me better than I I woke up thinking I’m facing 25 you know or at least you know so a nine piece of course has a stretch but it’s better than getting my your whole life taken from me
Yeah so so you got that the nine years you sign up play D4 nine years yeah where do you end up going uh where I going up going I went to swanie the first time I went to swanie what’s it called swanie yeah Swan CI man the
Police run that swan sucked what do you mean the police run that well I got a crazy story about Swan actually too by the way police Swan is super strict um like every institution in Florida I think in probably in every prison in America you know every prison has their
Own culture you know and even like sometimes even a dorm can have its own culture you can go to the worst pound in the state and this is the worst most violent prison but if you go to a good dorm like all right you all right you
Know what I mean so I think you know the culture but then again too prison’s prison is always the same but there is some worst places than the others I’ve been to like all the worst pris of Florida but Swan is more ran by police for my personal opinion the best place
To do time is Gangland where it’s most violent most chaotic and of course it’s uncomfortable to live in those type of environments but normally those type of pounds are ran by the inmates so normally when that’s like the culture it’s normally better to do time because respect level’s high so as long as
Respect level’s high it’s a good place to do time but whenever you’re at one of these sweet cupcake camps whenever the police run it the respect level is low and then like you know what I mean is it’s not good time like that so Swan the
Police ran it but it’s crazy a story about Swan right so extortion is huge you know of course you know in any prison I’m sure in every state but especially Florida and especially sex offenders you know so at Swani uh I’m was trying to leave out the names of the
Prisons because I go into all these prisons now so I’m sure it’s not ran like that anymore you know shout out to all the administration and staff but you know that’s how you make change by telling these stories too so it’s a positive thing cuz you’re not throwing
Like a specific name under the of course of course that that’s what creates the change of course of course the reform so um anyways whenever these inmates like a new bus would come full of like new [ __ ] you know what I mean like new prisoners coming in they call them new
[ __ ] I’ve never heard of that one yeah like you know like you know fish or whatever some spots like in Florida like a new inmate is a new [ __ ] so like a rooster or like a a deck I don’t know what it stands for I just call them new
[ __ ] you know new so they’re green you know they don’t know anything is their first time their first day in prison or whatever so uh whenever the bus comes the administration will will go ahead and let like the inmates know like who the sex offenders were you know so they
Already got a list all these boys who got sex offenses and what their charges were and details of them so these guys who would get the list and they would work on their housing it’ be like laundry guys normally or whatever they these guys were Affiliated gang
Affiliated of course so they would go ahead and they they had like some type of agreement with other sets on the pound whatever as far as like they would share the extortion you know what I mean I’m sure it was favored one way or the
Other B upon who runs the pound but they would somewhat kind of try to keep it fair with the extortion so the moment that These Guys these sex Defenders get to their prison well get to their bunk in their dorm they already got somebody pulling up on them within the first five
Minutes what’s good holl at you sit them down you know I mean however they choose to do it with the knife game or couple guys with them and they let them know out the gate like cuz that wasn’t one prison that was like the culture extortion you know so they let them know
Out the gate like right when they got there like you got to pay to live here bro like we know charges and they even let them know the details like so you’ll be safe you know what I mean but you know we expect this this this this and
This you know weekly monthly whatever you know so that’s one thing about swan man they had extortion on lock as someone that had done time before going into this situation do you have the upper hand like in regards to politics anything like cuz you’re an experienced
Inmate I guess you could say yeah I would say just like man I tell people all the time everybody’s prison experience different it’s based upon who you are and how you conduct yourself and how you do time if you go to prison if you gang affiliated and if you want to
Like bang out you going to have some conflict you know what I mean there’s a lot of chaos going on so you’ll be in the midst of it or if you’re a guy and you just want to like focus on you get your education stay out the way you can
Do that too sometimes trouble can come towards you but as long as you stand your stand your ground and know how to conduct yourself like a man and I think for the most part like you hitting on the head I’d already done two prison bids and I tell people all the time you
Approach a long bid differently than you would a short bid because your short bit is like I’m just going to stay out the way you know what I mean just let me make a home safe stay out the way you know what I mean stay focus and make it
Home but whenever you have a long bid it’s like you’re not even thinking about going home you’re worried about when the menu’s changing or like how come they in calling yard you know or you know the next pen pile you can get the next female to write you or whatever so
Whenever you’re doing like a longer bid you’re more concerned with like reputation or how you conduct yourself you can’t let stuff slide per se you know because that stuff follows you bro and once again you don’t have to be the most gangstafied you know crazy person
In the world but the ultimate law of prison is respect so you just can’t let anybody disrespect you and you have to be assertive what are some things that on the street we wouldn’t find disrespectful but in prison you would an inmate would find disrespectful bro I
Tell people all the time when people ask me like what’s maybe some of the most difficult things coming home to transition is respect bro because when you do so long in prison we are like subconsciously institutionalized cuz we’re used to living to a hostile environment to where the repercussions
Of disrespect is violence that’s not normal and that’s not cool but when when you live in prison for so long that’s what it’s like so out here I remember when I first came home I’m like dog people are so disrespectful out here like crazy disrespectful cuz I started
Driving Uber and like people so yeah former convict driving Uber and I still drive to every once in a while so I remember like you know people getting ring they can be disrespectful as hell you know what I mean it’s like dang and like I’m learning how to like bite my
Tongue and not be assertive or not confronted but I would just say man attitude um people got a unit on their face out here bro like in prison like the most gangstafied violent people are normally super respectful because they know what happens when they’re disrespected they’re going to they going
To kill you bro you know what I mean or they going to let it be known you can never try them like that so they’re super respectful you know um so yeah what say out here bro like maybe it’s like units people like sizing people or like interjecting in conversations or
Being rude or just not being polite not having manners thank you holding open door this little stuff I don’t know it maybe hard to pinpoint but like in the moment like you could feel it or you could be like dang that was rude as hell
Yeah I did the Uber too so I know what you feel like and there’s a big misconception that felons can’t drive Uber you a felon can drive Uber I think it absolutely depends on the charges which I’m shocked you’re able to do it no offense because hopefully theer isn’t looking don’t
Cancel me but that that that is pretty crazy you know um the other big one is like Tinder that it says in the bylaws I guess like and Felons can’t be on it but I think it’s also applies to like what type of crime you had that’s super
Discriminative silence can’t be on TI something like that like if you had a I understand like a sex offense or something exactly um and people are rude as [ __ ] driving an Uber like and I don’t get the people that tip yeah I that don’t tip yeah you’re going to I’m going
To take you to the airport like and you’re not going to tip and you got the corporate [ __ ] card like I I pick up these business guys and nothing not a penny it’s not even your [ __ ] money bro and you can’t even send a tip it
It’s wild and then even General like I’m in my apartment building sometimes you hold the door open for someone nothing yeah won’t even look at you the you’re supposed to hold it yeah not even a hello peasant yeah like prison you’re walking out you give a nod you say hello
You know unless you don’t [ __ ] with the person but it’s just the manners but then when you go down south everyone’s so nice you walk in hey hello how are you a conversation at the drive-thru here you go to [ __ ] dunad doas and you say hello and they’re like what you
Want bro yeah what can I get for you hi how you doing like nothing so you leave a tip nothing sometimes it just man I get worked up about the manners and stuff cuz I try to be as nice as you don’t know what someone’s going through
At the other end of the Spectrum so you know you just be nice Kens that’s where the term Kens come from got all these Kens in the world crazy Kens so when you um got this nyear sentence Did you know how much time you actually had to do on
It going into that um or are you thinking like I got to do nine years well in the State of Florida um I already knew you get I think it’s like 10 days a month at gang time that’s all you can get you know so um I actually remember being so frustrated i
C of outside charge in confinement well excuse me in the county jail because um I was just hurt bro you know what I mean I was suicidal I was really I like honestly thinking about killing myself on the count of jail um I remember I I
Got in a fight over the phone I’ve got a broken leg in the county jail I’m in the wheelchair I can barely walk I got to learn how to rewalk again and all that and the guy in the medical cell like double backed on the phone and like he
Know I got next and I’m trying to talk to my daughter or like my son or I’m talk to my kids so I snap and I just beat the brakes off the guy in the cell and he like tells on me when he goes to visitation a couple days later and it
Hit me with outside charge battery of a detaining so I’m in while I’m in confinement I end up taking my plea you know I already knew I was getting it and taking it but I actually get sentence and that’s when it hit and I remember being in the confinement cell like
Staring at the sprinkler knowing how people kill themselves and confine themselves you know with a bed sheet you know wrapping around their neck doing the tight noose and doing over the sprinkler and killing themselves and I remember it’s my third time in prison
Bro I’m 23 you know what I mean and uh I couldn’t get it right dog and I was so ashamed I so disgusted with myself I was going to miss the entirety of my children’s lives uh childhood um and I just felt like I was bringing everybody
Shame and I was doing nothing but hurting people like people who love me so I’m like what’s the point you know I mean I’m just going to end it and I remember like honestly thinking about killing myself bro but during that time you know praise be the guy that didn’t
Um you know it’s when like I counted out all my time and how much I do and that’s when I figured out you know just from counting my gang time if I get all my gang time I’ll do seven years and eight months all right so I have two questions
For you about this one did you be beat the brakes saw this guy in a wheelchair were you in aair no I got out the chair I was like hopping around went on crutches or something and he could walk fine he had a broken arm well say it’s like handicap people
Fighting he could he could have whooped me with this cast on if he was thinking about it if he wasn’t willing to hurt his arm again that’s got to be a seed you got to get that video they should they should have gave me that video what
Uh what’s it like to be handicapped in prison well I was in the county jail and they have they put you in the medical um it sucked I it was terrible because they didn’t have canteen you know because everyone in there had like a lot people
Had either had broken limbs or they had diabetes and they didn’t want them on GP to get whatever canteen so it sucked um for me like I said I was on the wheelchair for 5 months um and that’s a long time yeah and I was isolated in the
Um the medical thing it sucked bro but for me I had Physical Therapy like twice a day I was able to walk the hallways so that was my freedom I was just out there flirting with nurses and trying to hang out and talk and try to get extra bag
Lunches you know the nurses are stealing like little insures for me everyone loved me you know cuz they knew how much time I had and I’m out there just trying to laugh and Kiki and hang out and get out the sell you know so yeah you’re very personable yeah um but you’re also
The guy that they got to watch out for in prison cuz you’re always SM smoing you know working an angle relaxing with all the guards and stuff I you got a good way with words so it benefits you but the guards got to look out out for
You um when you got that N9 years and and you were in the mentality you said like you were you know trying to find and figure things out and you want to be on the straight and arrow did that make you feel like you know [ __ ] this I’m
Going back to how I was before like what’s the point I’m trying to do good and it’s not working yeah of course bro because what happened was when I was 18 years old I authentically gave my life to Jesus in the county jail I got saved for real my life has forever been
Changed but the very next morning I got in a fight in the county jail and I say that all the time because I believe that was a snapshot of how my spiritual journey would be super chaotic super sporadic all over the place and I’ll be authentically following Jesus in prison
Being on fire for the Lord and I come home and I go right back to the streets within a couple weeks and a month selling dope robing toen fire you know what I mean tripping but meanwhile I feel like it was fake cuz that wasn’t who I was anymore so of course
Especially that third bid it’s like dog I felt so fake I felt so flawed I felt so hypocritical and I was mad at myself and at God so like I’m going to Thug this one out and like so when I went back into prison the beginning of that
Last bid smoking weed all the time smoking K2 trying to my main aim was like you said was women officers you know what I mean any attractive women officer I’m at the flab trying to talk to them trying to get food trying to get sexual with them
So um that was my intent at the beginning of my bid but that end last for maybe about 5 months until the Lord just kept dealing with me and uh eventually led me again to repentance and surrender were you ever successful getting with a card
Nah um yeah yeah I think uh in Florida it’s called gunning uh I don’t know where they call another state just like that’s a jerking off in front of the car don’t tell me you’re a gunner man not a secretive Gunner what do you mean a secretive the secretive Gunners are the
Ones that like hide and do it you know what I mean to where like the open Gunter know explain yourself so embarrassing bro I can’t believe I’m even talking about this I’m going to keep it a buck um but like in the Florida prison system they’ll call them like eaters you know
As far as like the women officers who are like they they want to see it you know what I mean they she’s known for eating or whatever so sometimes like whenever I was in uh talking to certain female officers you know you don’t have the opportunity or the access to bust
Off and have sex with them or whatever um but like they’ll like want to see you light jack off you know what I mean so what they poke their head into the sell like look through the window um or they’ll do it to where like they are
Looking cuz like in the an open Bay they can look into the bathroom you know what I mean from like the officer station so yeah so you were one of those guys that was just whacking off no no no no no no not all the time definitely not occasionally did you ask
Me did did it happen yes it happened but I wasn’t one of them crazy Gunners definitely you’re saying there’s two two types of Gunners there’s the ones that do it to the woman and the woman don’t want it and then now there’s bro it’s a sickness there’s this new thing this is
The first time I heard of it where the woman actually want well for me it’s do where you do it you whack off and the woman want it oh man sounds so terrible no you’re saying it’s can a woman give consent to seeing another man whack off
I don’t know yeah listen I’m talking about literally the girl that I’m speaking about like that’s like in conversation let me see you unless you want to I want to see it dude this is might be the craziest thing I’ve heard all year the years just forget it but
Listen look about gunning bro DG there’s a bro listen it’s a sickness in the Chain Gang I’m talking you got some perverts bro like they Master gun into like the the 10th degree listen so I didn’t heard stories now of guys like cuz you got the coats you got the
Jackets so some police they’re on beat like they won’t like if they see if a woman officer sees a guy like with his jacket on with his clothes and his hands down or like in his popping out she already know that he’s gunning so she’s
Going to get on him but there’s this bro there’s this guy and he’s known for this he would take like a piece of string or whatever and somehow he would have this thing to where like the string would go down like his shirt and like I guess he
Would tie something around like his his dick you know and to where he could just be pulling on the string and he would just be standing at the officer station bro listen crazy stories dude this is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard sick do but some guys get handled
For doing this like they’ll get they’ll get jumped or course if they’re doing like yeah like some guys they’re whing out they’ll go like in the day room the non-consent Gunners yeah they’ll they’ll stand on top of a bench and they’ll just pull out in front of the lady you know
What me what are the men doing are the men like get the [ __ ] out of here yeah some guys will snap on them some guys they’ll do it like secretively you know but some guys who wild out like that yeah normally they’ll get like the like
The dorm the the guys will get him from around there like CU that’s disrespectful that’s crazy no one trying to bend the corner while you getting some hot water for your soup and you see some guy on the table with his dick out you know beating off to the lady so when
You’re doing it are you like as The Other Woman Like Making gestures like is she like giving you something back or she just star there with her mouth open the specific situation I’m speaking about is like you got to break it down for the viewers like why don’t you you
Got to explain to yourself so take it from the top like of how the intera ction goes down to the to the end uhuh yeah it’s just you know a continual conversation with the officer you know what I mean as far as and then like you
Letting her know like a course well I’m trying to what’s up can we slide to the bathroom you know and she’s like you know it’s can it’s hot they’re watching me so they have like the showers in the open Bay and like I said they can see
Into the showers in the open Bay from the officer station so that’s normally like a classic move if the officer you know is a eater what the guy say you know so um you know that’s me asking like what’s up can I get hit the shower
And you know she like yeah well I think she before she had told me she wanted to see my dick she wanted to see it so just that you know can I get the shower of course and then while I’m in the first shower she’s looking watching it sound
Listen now it sounds I apologize to everybody I’m not a pervert man all right please no it sounds better cuz you pretext it with you guys had an initial conversation now now now explain that these other Gunners the non-concept Gunners they just there’s no pre-con conversation they just pulled it down
And and and and whack it it yeah and they’re just shooting they’re just mad Gunners and like I said it’s a sickness bro and it’s disgusting but you would still labor label yourself as a gunner or do you have a different no definitely not I hope not do you think I fit that
Category as a gunner you explain this is a little bit different this is like sexting without the without the the texting part this is like inperson txting it’s like SE in live sex cam kind live sex I don’t know how you would call it yeah sex cam something like that yeah
Interesting Man crazy all right look hold on I did think of another story there while we were talking um especially cuz you’re asking about booty Bandit right so growing up in prison like I remember I was jit you know what I mean when I started off in prison not
Only at jit camp but then even going to adult camp you know I’m young 19 years old so I’m jit so I remember like the old heads that call me yo jit but then you know growing up in prison now like I’m a mature man so you called other
Guys jit and then just like being in prison for so long learning the ropes understanding how prison works and the politics and all that like I said I was never gang affiliated I never wanted to be I had no opportunities to be I was genuinely following Jesus and my prison
Journey was a missionary experience able to share the gospel apart from me falling and gunning consensually gunning let me stop um you know just genuinely seeing you know God impact people’s lives and trying to help guys get out the street lifestyle and that thought narrative and help them find their
Purpose through faith in Jesus but also too like you see like a young buck come in you can tell he’s green you know what I mean so you kind of want to look out for bro like telling him like the laws of land and like what to do and what not
To do but there’s also a balance of like kind of staying in your own lane and not like treading on all people’s Turf especially when they’re already marked so this story I’ll never forget I think it’s my second bit and I was actually about to go home so I really didn’t even
Want to say nothing so this jit they bu him right next to me he’s in the bunk next to me young white dude and uh he’s super cool I can just tell with his personality I’m not really friendly I’m not really talking to him I could tell
He’s a cool dude anyways I see immediately his first day in the dorm this old booty Bandit is a no booty Bandit immediately pulls up on him sitting on his bunk being friendly gives him a couple cigarettes you know what I mean so you already know he’s making his
Move if any convict knows this or anybody in the dorm he doesn’t know you know like I said I’m going home I’m trying to stay out of everybody’s Lane I’m just trying to do me so I see this I’m like I want to say something to him
You know but I don’t but it’s I’m going see how he conducts himself I’m I’m G see what he does I’m going to see how he Maneuvers so time goes on and now I see the jit going on his bunk I’m like dang bro don’t do that you know so I’m
Thinking this in my head so time goes on maybe like a week or so and he’s like athletic like myself I I’m a work out you know buff so he’s working out as well and he’s always like talking to me so then one day he’s like bro can I holl
At you on the yard I think he started working out with me in the dorm cuz I always keep like a big whole bunch of books you know weight bags so I think he started working out with me we started talking a little bit more and um he said
Bro I got to holl at you of course what’s up he said I’m going to tell you on the yard so when we hit the yard he’s like bro he’s like you know that older guy who always p up on me so I’m I’m like yeah and he’s like bro I think he’s
Got like some funny intention I said yeah bro I’ve been like waiting for you to identify that he’s a booty Banner bro he’s coming for your butt like you know what I mean like you got to see that he’s like I know it’s weird like I can
Tell I said he’s like so what do I do you know he’s asking me what do I do I said listen bro you just got to freaking be direct like yo I’m not friendly you know what I mean like don’t be disrespectful because he’s going to this
Is a booty Bandit who’s also a convict to where if you disrespect him he might with a knife in you you know what I mean or he might cuz he’s a young white guy and he doesn’t look that intimidating he kind of looks a little passive and a
Little weak so I’m like just got to be assertive bro like no disrespect but I’m just not friendly bro I’m not looking for friends you I’m just focused on me doing time so I tell him what to say and what to do so like all right all right
All right you know so and we’re going to lunch I think us like later on that day or maybe it was dinner yeah it was probably dinner cuz we had a wreck after yard at lunch so we’re going to dinner and I’m thinking he’s going to do it by
Himself you know what I mean like you should you know not bring me into it I’m about to go home I’m trying to get no conflict with his old head behind behind nothing not that he’s like a threat or nothing but still handle that yourself so he’s like starts walking with me he’s
Waiting for me to come to the door and apparently the booty Bandit was waiting on him too to try to walk with him to like chiaa so he while I’m bending the door right when I’m walking out the door he’s standing at the door and the old
The old booty band is like kind of walking up on the side of me like trying to pull up on him and out of nowhere the booty Bandit say something to him and the guy goes get out of my face bro you know he kind of like snaps like I ain’t
Friendly I don’t want no friends and he did everything I told him not to do he just took it to 10 so uh and then the freaking booty Bandit now he nuts up he’s like what [ __ ] he’s like I’m trying to hand you the right hand of Fellowship
You going to disrespect me talking about getting his knife and anyways but the whole point I was getting at as far as like the booty Bandit story um bro like booty Bandit is a definitely a thing you know in any prison system in this in any
State um but that was just a crazy you know story that I remember of seeing it happen with somebody else and just trying to like help bro like navigate through it you know so what ended up happening to the guy to get the booty
Taken nah no no he was good he left them alone he didn’t he basically follow no right then no right then I told him because he was nothing up the uh the booty Banner was trying to fight him right there in that moment so then that’s why I interjected because he like
I think he knew what he was doing he waited for me to like kind of be there which I didn’t want so uh I was like man old his chill bro just respect the man he said he didn’t want no friends bro leave him alone you got to respect that
Dog and uh he’s said man no bro do I said bro chill and he just left him alone so how follow your advice to stay away from the booty bandits in prison basically is what you’re saying yeah yeah yeah so and I just thoughted some random story so so since where the
Prison topic you got a very interactive episode for us you got all these want to see you got some prison knicknacks I came down to grab you you’re like here grab the bag all right so look man one thing I’m a writer and uh we can’t I
Also got to do the full story about what I do now at prisons right of course we’ll get to that but um man I’m a writer I’m a rapper but I think before I started rapping rapping um I learned how to like I did poetry but anyways I
Journaled my whole 12 Years bro listen this is just one this is just one example I literally took this from a box this big at my apartment that I sent home I journal every single day look at this and look how small the wording is oh wow I wish I had handwriting like
That you know what I mean I did I wrote that small to save paper that’s crazy you know so I would journal every day and this was really like a place for me to vent and to deal with things and really to process things number one I’m
Sharing how like God’s dealing with me and like kind of changing my thought process and my lifestyle U but I also like share and document what God was doing and other people around me and how God was using me to serve other people but it was a place for me every night to
Process my days and I think this is super helpful for me how to deal with my time and how to like navigate mentally through my journey and process things properly what I could have done better what could have done different you know what I mean and anything so I’m probably
Going to publish this one day I got a whole freaking huge Locker full of like prison wires you know what I mean that’s great man and of course you got the uh the all the P the classic Chang gang picture books and actually this right
Here is the um that’s the mug shot and that’s actually the uh newspaper that’s the newspaper article of whenever I accidentally hit the police officer with the car okay so you know you got all the picture books you know so these are the classic all this is classic Chain Gang
You could buy you could buy the books on commissary right and pictures in it of course and then of course I keep all this man I’m super sentimental and just like what do me what does it mean to you to keep everything I keep everything just because bro it’s like my experience cuz
In there is gold you know what I mean so like why why would I get rid of it now I hold on to it and it just like like I said kind of like it’s symbolic for me of what I experienced and what I went through and how that was a pivotal
Moment in my life in which God used to transform my life I love that and of course you know once again it’s all mail got boxes upon boxes of mail you know what I mean and then lastly those are all letters that people sent you
Yeah and I would send them home I didn’t keep them all the years I would send them all home because I didn’t want to get rid of them yeah yeah yeah I used to send I actually still have I threw out a lot but I still have a lot of the
Writings that I wrote in prison when I was in the shoe and stuff yeah um send those all home and I got in a little binder it’s in my office right now okay there you go and then the classic canteen bag you know you got the ramen
In there that’s probably one of the smaller net bags I’ve seen normally they’re a little bit bigger right yeah this is an old old old one old school okay yeah yeah this is an old one I see you got the prison mug oh yeah was that
They is my coffee cup they issued that to you or they don’t sell it this is gold in the Chain Gang but was that for free cuz I know like we would everyone would get a mug they would sell these this is gold and they don’t sell them no
More look it’s like stained with coffee look at that see that’s how a lot of guys coffee cups were though they would get stain you purposely don’t clean them yeah let that oil sit bro yeah exactly oil sit they clean that’s the yak man you know what’s funny too see how it’s
Cracked on the sides it got cracked from getting transferred so much it would be at the my bag you know what I mean it Crush from the weight of stuff but I would still drink out of it even in there I would just make like little Coffee shots straight oil Yak you know
What I mean and just sip on it and just keep refilling it so a commissary like bag like that filled with all that stuff how much does that run you at the store bro listen nowadays can you believe one soup goes for a do six oh [ __ ] now I
Remember it was 30 cents 35 cents 40 cents actually I think think yeah now bro they’re Sky rcking them prices dog so what’s like a mackerel cost cuz those were a dollar probably like a couple dollars it’s crazy yeah prices are going up man yeah man um hopefully they up the
Spending limits Oho it’s insane bro because like you used to be able to fill up a whole bag and survive you know what I mean if you spend $25 a store you would survive for like a week depending upon how you ate but now bro you get $25
That’s just your hygiene you a even got no money for food you know so what year did you end up getting out of prison I got out in 2021 so that was a couple years ago right two years a little bit over two years are you still on
Probation or no um thank God I was on Parole well in Florida don’t have parole they got crd which is like controlled release or whatever you get out on your gang time so you’re pretty much doing your full 100% but now it’s on supervision with your good time so I got
Out and I was on crd I think for a year and eight months no issues yeah yeah oh yeah that’s what I wanted to bring up I was I guy was in cuffs dog I was doing Uber check this out I was doing Uber one
Night and I had a 10:00 curf you’re not allowed to leave the county or the state and you got a 10:00 curfew so while I’m driving Uber it’s not even 10 but I had permission from my crd officer to be out for business purposes so I’m doing Uber
I got a driver I got a rider in the back now and somehow like a police officer gets behind me was undercover gang task force I don’t know that they pulled me immediately I already knew something was funny because right when he pulled me I
B my window down he said uh Mr Tesa he already knew my name of course the plate he’s like step out the car real quick I already knew like dang and I’m scared cuz I’m on freaking parole crd so I step out the car he walks me to the back of
The vehicle grabs my wrist puts me in cuffs what you doing out past 10 bro you know what I mean you know you’re on you know you’re on parole bro like this is violation you know I got to take you and I’m like sir listen my parole officer
Gave me permission I’m allowed to be outside past 10 for business purposes he’s like well do you got that written do you got like something to show that I’m like no you know what I mean like I got his number can you call him so um
They get my phone I tell him his name and they’re calling him so one officer takes my phone they go back to the other squad car but there’s like four cop cars now and it’s like some I think they’re doing something with some like gang bus because they’re all like gang task force
So now they’re sitting there and uh I had the opportunity to now I’m like trying to save myself like save face I’m like listen but it’s also a great opportunity for me to share my story and how God transformed my life I’m like listen bro I’m doing great now cuz
They’re looking at my charges and especially when I got violent charges against Law Enforcement Officers they contend to take that personal I’m like dog god transform my life in the Chain Gang now I go back to the streets with the gospel we’re impacting the streets and we’re impacting the community to
Help guys get out the street lifestyle so anyways they’re calling him my Pro officer he’s not picking up thank God they get a hold of my supervised release like head office like person in the office and they said this let him go have them check in in the morning and
We’ll double check with this Pro officer is allowed to be out so thank God they take me for the first time in my life bro the police let me out of cuffs and the police are actually thanking me and commending me for my service in the community and they Shake take my hand
You know what I mean so I believe in that moment God was like showing me cuz I’m doing great you know what I mean like walking faithful unto the Lord and walking in God’s purpose for my life God was showing me like despite whatever opposition that I face like yo I got you
Why do you think they pulled you over uh they probably just ran my plates honestly see that’s like the issue I have with like probation and whatnot because it’s all about trying to get a fresh start yeah but in your instant you got Instinct you got pulled over you had
A passenger in the car that could been the end of your Uber career right there that passenger what happened to the passenger oh you know what’s funny too while they had me in cuffs one of the officers went to my car and I tapping on the window and she opened the door she’s
Like lady I’m sorry but you can just go ahead and cancel the ride we’re going to have him you know for a second we don’t know what’s going on but he even told the lady to give him five stars he didn’t do anything and just misunderstanding so that was kind of
Cool on his end yeah but you get the wrong person they’re putting no Uber driver got arrested this and that that’s not good yeah not at all bro listen I’ve been pulled no exaggeration I was telling somebody I just got pulled the other day I get get pulled all the time
Bro it’s a beard man I always get pulled you you kind of look like a skinnier DJ Cal and did you see that I I know you said you don’t really watch the episodes but the clips we had um that guy chip Williamson with the beard he had like
The really guy yeah he was he’s a little bit bigger than you same look dude the Beards go I’m telling you it’s all about the Beards yes sir yeah that’s awesome yeah I always get pulled bro and I think honestly they just want to look in the
Vehicle they just like want to get a visual really yeah just make sure one’s kidnapped I don’t know like they I get pulled all the time and I never got one ticket wow like I’ve probably been pulled no exaggeration about eight nine times within a 2year period so what’s
Life like for you now yeah man so while I was incarcerated man not only did God transform my life but God gave me a vision for my release I’ve always been a rapper it was just like a way for me to vent about my life and things I was
Going through I’ve always been very expressive I’ve always been a communicator so I just put it in music so while I was incarcerating the guy began to transform my life you know in prison like all the Jitter bugs that be in there freestyling beating on the
Locker beating on the wall so God would stir me up to go in the midst of it and plus these are all my homies too and I would freestyle but I rap about like the gospel but I’ll put it in a way to where I’m still rapping about the streets but
How God delivered me out the streets you know and like I seen how it really affect people and people like dang and plus two guys using me while I was in prison I planted four different inmate Le churches at four different prisons while I was incarcerated I was Preacher
Man you know I mean that’s who I was while I was incarcerated for me my prison Journey was full-time missionary journey and it was for real you know what I mean it was authentic it was genuine So Not only was I walking into my purpose while I was incarcerated but
God showed me upon release that God and it was through one of my best friend’s death he was shot and killed that morning the following morning after I found out I was mad at God I was upset God laid on my heart this Vision that he
Was going to use music as a platform to reach the streets with the gospel and uh the ministry is called black hustle and the music is black hustle entertainment so my first release whenever my first song that I released when I came home like my third month out got got me
Signed by the second biggest Christian hip-hop label in the nation and I went viral actually at work release before I was even released um cuz at work relase you go they release you from like a minimum security prison to go to work and come back with like ankle monitor uh
They give you phones but not smartphones but I had a iPhone putting in my locker at work and I’m doing social media and I’m killing the game I’m like documenting bro listen I’ve been documenting my entire prison Journey while I was incarcerated having my homie record prison phone calls recording
Videos off jacks or off like the prison kiosk smart yeah yeah so I’m filming my documentary right now the day of my release I had a camera crew at the gate that’s awesome so we’ve been documenting my entire journey and transition home if I could go back and change anything that
Would be it like to document the whole legal process cameras in the courtroom uh prison more documented about that but I never thought that prison would be the thing that I would be focused on and turn into something I always thought it was the nightclub stuff cuz it’s cool
Kid owns a nightclub this and that but it’s not relatable to the average person prison this experience that not everyone gets to go through is very relatable to a lot of people because so many people are affected by it of course what do you think would be your message to the
Viewers the listeners maybe even to your old self to your teenage self what do you want the kids that were your age that grew up the way you did and and you know made those wrong decisions what do you want that message to get to them to
Be about yeah I would just say to everybody number one that like Yo God doesn’t create trash you know God creates royalty he creates us as good and not even to sound like cornball Kumbaya cheesy Christian but that’s real bro you know like despite whatever chaos or chaotic or traumatic experiences that
We face as a child or coming up or no matter what cars we’ve been dealt God has a huge call and purpose upon our life and when we discover that and from my perspective I believe that’s only through faith in Jesus and the sacrifice and when we walk a lifestyle surrendered
To him God has a purpose for us and when we commit all that unto him bro we’ll live out our dreams in the midst of a prison bid when I’m on my lowest low I had the ultimate peace fulfillment and contentment and it’s because of my faith
In Christ so my encouragement to anybody out there in the streets or the youth or whoever is we never truly identify who we are as people and our purpose for our life until we tap into the one who created us so that would be my ultimate you know um call to action encouragement
For everybody and like now how it’s all full circle you said with the whole prison thing I never thought about getting out and going back into a prison I’m sure I would with industry but I think it’s going to be a thing so when I come home bro like I’m just thinking
It’s cool that my music’s being heard in the prison system on the tablets but now because like a podcast in prison that I’m featured on shout out to Mama even real V the nation um like I’m viral in the prison system to where I can go to a
Prison in Nebraska or a prison in Cali or in Florida or in New York or wherever and they know who I am and they know my story because of the music and because the podcast right and it’s crazy that God will use our stories as Redemptive stories to give inspiration and use us
As a template to anybody during time we’re convicts bro we’re all the same no one’s better than nobody God’s doing in us he can do the same thing in you and more 10 times so to me it’s beautiful to be able to go back in there and Speak
Life to them boys and encourage them that that place of incarceration that place of Brokenness that can be a breeding ground where God Can Transform our life radically give us vision and purpose not only in there but upon upon release as well you know
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