Welcome to the Jolly podcast I’m your host Melissa Barrett this podcast is for those who are interested in the conversation around Equity diversity and inclusion each week I’ll be interviewing a guest who has something special to share or is actively part of Building Solutions in the space let’s get started
Take a journey with me this week as we learn about Kappa alpas Sai I am joined by Chuck Lockard Samuel L dakis and Trenton gudo and we are going to hear from them some of the rich history of Kappa Alphas saai what it means to the community and the service they provide what
Initiatives they work on and what their own experiences were like why they chose Kappa alasi it’s a great conversation because we have multiple Generations here Chuck being the first to speak you will hear him talk about his experience and then we have two younger individuals who recently crossed
And their perspective so I think it’ll be fun for you to listen to this episode and just learn about Kappa Alphas saai remember we had other interviews with some of the divine nine and other black organizations the NAACP as well as the Prince Hall Masons and I just want to make sure
People are aware of the organizations what they do the impacts they have on the world and how they serve our community please join me all right so I am again excited to talk to my friends with Kappa alpas Sai and I’m just so excited to have Chuck Lockard here along with Samuel dasas
II and Trenton gudo so thank you all for being here and joining me on the Jolly podcast you’re welcome thank you for having this thanks for having us yeah I am excited so last year I started this kind of conversation with some of the divine nine just to try to help
Celebrate what it is that you all do that the divine nine does in the world I think there’s a lot of people that don’t know and I’d like to use the platform to educate people on what it is what it means there’s lots of people that know what Greeks do but they don’t
Necessarily know what the Divine mind does um so why don’t we start with you you all educate me a little bit about Kappa alpas all right basically just to kind of give you a little background we we were founded in 1911 okay 10 illustrious men under one dream the
Dreamer we got together out of struggle and the reason we got together out of struggle because there was a lot of racism and a lot of different things that were going on in Indiana we were founded at Indiana University and Elder Watson Diggs had a dream he got together with the nine with
Our other nine illustrious Founders and laid out a BL a blueprint for success that has developed some of the most educated some of the most dynamic men this country has ever seen um Kappa is not for everyone though it is truly an honor and a privilege to be a member of Kappa Alphas
Saai Fraternity Incorporated for myself it changed my life I was familiar with the organization and it started my journey started when I was a freshman in college I was picked to escort a young lady at the M for the misca dream pageant when I was a freshman I was a
Scholarship athlete when I was attending Langston University and you know when you first come out on the yard you see all the different Greeks they all come out and they they’re stepping and having tables but I hadn’t seen the brother yet and I was like okay I’m looking around like
Okay and that night when I we escorted we escorted all the uh the young ladies that were in the pageant in and we were standing there and the lights went down the red light came on and these brothers came in and all white tucks with red trim with canes and top
Hats and I said oh that’s me and then I said that’s me I’m done I was done I was too through right and then I started looking I started talking to some of the brothers and I started seeing some of the activities and some of the leadership positions that they were that
They were involved in on the campus and I was like oh they they a little heavy this one was in student life this one was in government this one was in this this one was in this and they always The Way They Carried themselves on the campus they separated
Themselves by how they walked how they talked how they looked they were always very polished very clean very Dapper very smooth and I was like I was I was done transferred home transferred home and was attending Hayward and we only had one brother we had we had Brothers a few Brothers on
The yard but there was one particular brother on our yard his name was John Landry and we called him the lone nuke because he was the only one running around on campus our chapter was charted March 4th 1989 the new Sigma chapter chapter that shows of course no sympathy
Because we the brain chapter because we got a little extra up here and in here the first line that was chartered the charter line was the five miracles of Matthew and there were five brothers on that line Larry Atkins John Brown who recently just passed away and went to
Chapter invisible randy mean Jan the dance missing Gilbert V Vince borderon and Diamond Duke Brian Cobb those were their big brother names they charted the chapter and my line which was Philippians 4 which was which was Bob Davis lenzo Hall Charles Murphy and myself we were the first line to cross
Into the new Sigma the new Sigma Charter in 1989 it’s been for me a life’s work and a life’s journey and I will continue my journey even Beyond Death because even when you die you still go to heaven you’re going to be with the Lord but I’m going be
With my brothers too to seated at the table so through the fraternity I met my wife my career enhanced by meeting brothers and just the knowledge that I was able to receive from some of my mentors change my life and it’s it’s it’s just an experience that people see
Us where we just what they what they see us do on the yard right but they really don’t know the amount of work that it takes for us to do what we do as far as with community service all our we give all the money away on scholarship and
Mentorship and we like to we we’re in the business of changing lives and enhancing others so that that’s kind of that’s kind of what we do Sam what what has your experience been to just to kind of piggyback off that my organization like you said that
They were always so polished so so put together but one thing that for me really made them Stand Out was like they were true to themselves every now and again you can get around some groups and some other organizations and it kind of seems like they will change depending on the people
That they’re around and just for me the noops were just always the same type of person inconsistent with their character yeah you know they may be a little bit more animated when they’re around their brothers but their character never changed and it never like they was just
Trying to do things because this is what everyone else was doing it was just always like oh no this is just an aspect of my life that I also enjoyed to be in but it never seemed like they was trying to put on a show even though we do put
On a show now we do we do ask to help him out but we put on the show but like I said we’re true to who we are and it’s like we’re really men We’re Men of achievement and it’s so we’re never satisfied Never Never Satisfied never content always thirst thirsting and
Hungering for more for greater for to be more successful and that was just some ideals that I just could could really relate to yeah you all have I mean Chuck I know has been in for a little while just a little bit so I was a spring 17 initiate to the
New Sigma chapter at California State University East Bay fantastic and Trenton what’s what’s life been for you what why did you choose Kappa so I was a a spring 19 initiate I joined my freshman year of college my older brother’s also opportunity as well he’s also in my chapter our chapter the next
S chapter but I I say really kind of went piggyback off what both of my brothers said it was the dapperness of my fraternity that really Drew my initially like I like to be cleanly dress keep myself clean cut as well and I felt like that really Drew my
Attention from the brothers of off side that’s one of the main things I noticed and also like what Sam said the character of the brothers everybody’s very very brotherly in this mat very we show a lot of human tolerance and understanding with each other we take
Care of each other and we love each other and it’s very apparent from the outside looking in and when I was young and being around Brothers of kept off aside for quite some for quite a few years even in high school from just being around my brother um I was able to
See that and I was able to see other fraternities as well such as all all the other ones and and they just didn’t they weren’t giving what cic was giving to me at that time and yeah so that’s really what kind of led me to do so at least to
Jooy this fraternity and then as well once I kind of got into the fraternity and and got to meet older brothers and brothers as well it was seem the achievement and the in the brothers that’s one of the main monikers of arford TR is achievement and to see
Those brothers withand that and keep that and still with their lifesty and it was it was amazing to me sort to speak coming from the background I came from I haven’t really seen much of that out of a lot of black men so it was amazing to
Me to say the L to say the least and that’s pretty much what drew me to The Eternity that’s fantastic so then so let’s talk a little bit about the some of the foundational principles you all have talked about achievement but I know there are others that guide the
Fraternity over the past Century what other types of foundational principles do you all focus on one of the things that we do is the main thing is as my brother said I knowable achievement in every field of human endeavor so that means every field in the science and the Arts and
Everything you do we’re never satisfied we strive to be the best within ourselves and we strive to be the best as far as uplifting each other we like to inspire service in the public interest that’s definitely what we do because we have to get back we web de
Boyce said we are all in Divine n The Talented 10 as a pillar of our race that is a great responsibility and when you become a member of cap alasi you are made aware of what your responsibility is not just to yourself but to your brothers to your
Race and to your community and your family I live Kappa Kappa is not something where I just have letters on my chest I live it I live my shield and I live my Creed the way I deal with my family the way I raise my children the
Way I carry myself when I’m at work when I was at work the way I even treat my wife you have to to have a certain Heir and a certain character to be a member of Capal alasi you have to have a certain level you have to be intelligent you have to be
Polished and one of the things that we strive to do is like say be the best that we can be and we have a long lineage of Brothers since 1911 who have displayed these particular characteristics and achieved in every field of human endeavor at the highest level in sports Will Chamberlain and
Basketball Will Chamberlain and and and and Bill Russell you got Kenny Hardaway and and and Allan Houston and and and the red tals Tuskegee Airman chappie the colonel he’s my brother that’s why we call him the red taals in government Tom Bradley look what he did for the city of Los
Angeles UNH Herald attorneys Johnny Cochran is our fraternity brother I mean the list just goes on and on and on not to mention without a shadow of a doubt Samuel deis the second s g and myself Charles lock we carry that passion and we carry that leadership porch not separately but on one
Accord because we’re not individuals we are we’re one body one mind and one flow and that’s what makes us special I can call any brother at any time my brother as Trenton said his brother well my my younger brother is also a member of C alai he was made in
At new chapter spring 96 as well as my other brother Carlos who was also spring 96 so it’s it’s just something that we do almost like you hear him say the chat Melissa it’s just something in the air got to be deire it must be a CPP in the
Atmosphere okay okay I mean we’ve we’ve all healed in our time times when we were at Hayward like when I was at Hayward I was on the president’s I served on the president’s Council which was a very unique group of individuals everybody could not do that and we
Helped develop policy and procedure and we worked hand inand directly with not just the administration but with the president of the school we had meetings and of course we worked with the other Greeks as well we had brothers that were present president of the the different clubs for business and I believe it’s
Now for NAA and different just just anything we could get our hands on we said we we tried to get involved and we were going to lead we gave scholarships as undergrads where most cats most undergrad or most young people they’re looking for the next party or
The next fund to go to we were working long early days and long nights when those who are playing we may play but we work while we play because you can’t you can’t achieve and do things without work because a man without a plan is like a man with a plan
To fail so we’re constantly planning we’re constantly working constantly giving back not just on campus but in the community as well and we I can remember being on the campus and people asking asking us they were like you mean you guys are giving a you’re giving a scholarship yeah we’re going to through
The first gospel concert that raised thousands of dollars so we were able to give several thousands of dollars worth of scholarships to students and go to different churches and give scholarships in the name of brothers that were at those particular uh churches at that time and at you’re talking 19 20 22 24
We were young but as Leaders it was natural this is what we do and we that that tradition I can honestly say as the first line to cross into the chapter of new Sigma that tradition holds true with our chapter today in 2024 so so Samuel and Trenton how does
That Translate today in terms of community service and some of the initiatives that you all have going on these days I think it it follows straight right in so one other one of our GPS is is to assist the aims of purpose of college universities as we all know there’s an African-American achievement
Gap so myself and as far as other of the Divine n on our campus we we really took that charge and we organ a a a coalition to get herself a resource center on campus and the that Resource Center the the the amount of work and effort and meetings
That we had to go to and the higher ups and with um we actually had a meeting with the chancellor of the CSUS to talk about why we needed and why um we deserve the African-American Resource Center to be provided to us um on our
Campus and and um that was one of those dreams that I actually didn’t even get to realize like was part of the the jump start to kind of get it moving and it’s it wasn’t until my my frat brother Triton he was able to actually he actually is able to use that same
Resource Center that we were fighting to get and so that’s just one thing that that like I say we just keep on that same focus and the same path and tradition and then just to we promote the the moral spiritual intellectual of our members we really care about each
Other and it’s not just when I when we say that we want to achieve in life and we’re never satisfied that’s not just on an individual basis it’s I can never be satisfied for my brother I can never just see my brother just being content and not pushing him to do better not
Helping him do better not walking with him to do better we don’t just focus on everything going outside but we have to do development within our organizations to keep that Bond close because if you put too much focus on the needs of others and you ignore the needs of
The people around you that you’re working with then it the the goal is never realized with the magnitude and the the the gravitos that it could be if you guys were all in one Accord and working together okay Tren did you want to add yeah so yes I mean brother uh Charles
And Sam pretty much nailed it pretty much down but if I could just add additional things like other than just the community service we do I would say like as of right now for an example um I am currently the editor and chief of my school newspaper so it’s even like such
As keeping Brothers written in a good light so whenever we have like events or any any black organizations specifically kind well I mean don’t get me wrong we write events on all organizations and things of that nature but typically black events are being held on campus I
Do like to make sure that we cover those stories just so that they get the the amount of attention and share I feel like was needed so even like making sure that we’re writing every all the brothers in a good light even people that are not part of our fraternity just
Keeping our people in a good light and and uh keeping people interested and wanting to attend the events and keeping the ball rolling as far as careus involved yeah I’m glad you brought that up because I think a lot of times when we think about the divine
Nine what do you think the impact has been for africanamerican specifically because of your fraternity well one of the things that we try to do is we really try we role model the behavior as you say as we told we said earlier we’re the pillars in the
Community so we have we have a responsibility and an obligation to reach back and go back and lead and pull the others with us instead of okay I got mine well I’m trying to do this I’m done let me move on no no no we go back to
The high schools we go back to the elementary schools so they have something to look at a lot of times and I won’t go too in depth but a lot of times with the with the media with media as black males we are pictured as animals pimps Hustlers not
Polished not professionals they don’t show us in the best light drug dealers hip rappers things that things that are not polished and professional so we have a duly responsibility to provide that light and be that Beacon for others to follow and we do that not by what we
Say by what we do I can remember I can remember being at work I did I worked 27 years in the probation department where I was a shift Commander when I retired and I can remember walking through the building and talk working with the kids and they would be
Like Mr lockart can I be honest with you and I would be like what’s what what you kind of different or I have there would be people that I work with see you kind of different you don’t you just don’t want it average or you just don’t sadle so that
Drew children to me and it drew adults to me and then once that happens it allowed me to teach it allowed me to turn on lights where there may be Darkness or no light had ever been turned on at all it gave individuals something different to look at or
Something different to learn from or someone different to follow leadership is something that is not given leadership is something that’s earned and once it’s earned you have to uphold that position for others to follow and it’s not always easy the hardest thing I tell people all the time the hardest job I’ve
Ever had was not being silly the hardest job I ever had was to be upstanding and to be right because there’s no room for error because you’re always under the microscope you have to embrace it well with us not only do we embrace it it comes natural because this is this is it’s
Part of who we are and it is what we do now I can say that I can say that because I’m looking at two brothers who when I was made in the fraternity they weren’t here yet so how can they uphold and how can they have the same values the same
Principles the same fire the same Vigor the same leadership qualities that I had and they weren’t even here and they step right in and the the ball has never been dropped let’s pause for a moment we’ll be right Back you one of the biggest things and this is also one of the biggest reasons why I decided to join is that it’s our guide right program with our Capal Leaguers so that’s just Middle School up until from 8th grade up into high school we we have a mentorship program for
Young men and a lot of us didn’t grow up with an older father older cousin an uncle a big brother I had all of that except for a big brother but I had male mentors in my life and I seen the difference between how I thought and how
I acted and what I believed I could do versus those around me who didn’t have that same type of push and support and love around them um me guidance and so that’s one thing that my organization I feel like our impact with the young people of America like that’s not
Something that you’re going to hear about that’s not something that you can really quantify because there’s there there were people that go through that that program that will never join will never will’ll never be Greek they’ll they’ll never they’ll it’ll just be a moment in life but it’ll be a moment that changed
Them that made them better as a better person for themselves to help them get through life easier for themselves like that’s the impact we we make that we create because we’re so devoted to making sure that like I young black men and and old black men are seen as
Successful positive role models and pillars in the community and not allowing what may be the most popular of examples be what dictates us it’s like say it’s it’s it’s it’s more about like who we are we understand that we live in a fishbowl that people are looking at us
And that when people are looking at a fishbowl they’re they’re liing because they want an example they they want to they they have an expectation of what they should see when they look inside this bowl and us just knowing that and walking in the the the best way that we
Know how to is just one way that we impact the world in a positive way we we have a National Partnership with the St Jude Hospital which a lot of organizations do but just like any organization that I would say partnership with St Jude is you take away their contributions and how many
Kids are now suffering so the impact we make may not be something that can be put on a billboard and and you I could win an award for it tomorrow something you could write a paper about it and someone wants to read a whole book about how it happened it may not be
Made into a movie but the impact is something that is so large I can’t personally quantify I’m just glad I’m able to be a part of organization to create that space in the world I love it anything you want to add Tron yeah like Sam said it’s pretty much nearly
Impossible to qu quantify the impact but what I can say is that members of cap off cyber we very substantial leaders and like and and examples of that is like Sam said Capal Capal is a somewhat of a of a club that we put together of young men from middle school to high
School where we teach them to do things such as filling out a scholarship filling out their fast performs for financial aid which a lot of kids like like me did not are not aware of or were not aware of at a certain age of of of things like that job application
Things of that nature so very important critical things that a lot of young men should know is what we kind of pretty much teach throughout Capital League and things of that nature and then also like Sam mened also St Judes and even a more personal example we have a brother in
Our chapter of the named John Norman who has a who has a nonprofit program called raising Goose resilience and which is based in Stockton California uh which is where I’m from and I can attest to you right now and it is very much so long of need in a program like this and
Basically raising you resilience is at every single high school and nearly every Middle School in Stockon California and basically it takes I don’t want to use where trouble students but any students that are just having any kind of issues with whether schooling or personal life whatever the
Case may be and pretty much instills resilience that’s kind of what the name comes from Raising youth resilience instilling the resilience into the youth and like like like Sam said you can’t quite quantify the impact but the impact is huge and it’s there nevertheless I’ve
Seen it in my own eyes I’ve seen my cousins my actual blood cousins they were part of this program as well and although you know they weren’t they didn’t go to school but I’ve seen how the the program changed their life and how they now they have pretty solid jobs
For their age they’re working hard they have an apartment together they’re doing pretty well for themselves for their age but and and to me it seems like it’s very apparent that that program is pretty much what gave them that that that resilience to to eventually live the lifestyle that they’re living right
Now and pretty much change your life and that’s the kind of impact that members of cap off side have on our communities and and yeah and and like Sam said I mean if you take it away would really I mean would it change much probably not
But but it’s our due diligence it’s our duty to still stand up and and give our efforts to to give that impact nevertheless I me we have Montel Jordan so a lot of us wouldn’t be around because he he caused a lot of baby making so you was
Oh man now I’ll tell you I’ll tell you a story when we were this is we were in Los Angeles at us we were doing a step show real big La step show in La back back in the day long time many moons ago he
Actually was one he Ste with us we had won more competitions step shows and placed higher than any of the other cus in our Western in our region in our Province and they actually he actually stepped in our show with us oh many moons ago yes many moons ago
That’s awesome well and you know Trenton I was asking them earlier I said how did how did y’all feel when you saw Usher up there with some kappas at the Super Bowl I thought it was pretty cool honestly I’m um he didn’t really I seen some brothers were a bit offended or things
Of that nature I I think it’s cool that like we get that attention or we get that notoriety there other Greek organizations we not the only one that stroll and the fact that he chose us I thought was pretty cool the brothers that were strolling they were part of
Our fraternity so it wasn’t like they were disrespecting or frat in any kind of way so I thought it was pretty cool to see yeah when they when they kind of jumped out there on the stage with the classic white white cane yeah it was nice I have to say I was
Shocked wased as well weed show we helped Usher we that little extra he kind of did a slight little right SN in a slight little all us he’s done a lot of hard work and I think just the fact he kind of brought us onto that stage with him was was
Pretty cool yeah no doubt no doubt awesome so what tell me a little bit about your you all’s personal story I Chuck kind of gave us a little bit of his but I know you all are are younger you’re you just crossed not that long ago what
Has life been like for you all having just I don’t know Trenton are you still in college or I just finished my last semester in December okay fantastic so tell me a little bit about you all and your your Journeys to get here to where you are today now that you’re a
Kappa okay so I’m I’m born in 2000 I’m a 2000 baby or I actually Bor on Valentine’s Day my birthday just passed a couple days happy birthday thank you thank you thank you brother so yeah I was born in Stockton California which is where I also grew up at and graduated
From I graduated from Lincoln High School in 2018 and then after graduating high school I went to college went to C State Eastbay and that first semester was when I actually met my L brothers and I knew a lot of members of of the new single chapter already because as I said
Previously my brother was part of the L single chapter he crossed he’s Sam’s line brother so he crossed in Spring 17 as well with Sam so I was aware of their whole line and a few other Pro fights such as John Norman which I spoke of with the
Nonprofit organization so yeah so again I got to college Met My Line brothers we were in a we we actually at the same dorm together we were look the dorms together and we joined our organization together our first year which was a great experience I love that I joined it
At such an early age because I feel like I was able to soak in so much experience and although I came with a lot of struggles and a lot of stress being in a being of the organization for so long at such a young age but but I feel like it
Was very beneficial for me in the long run no doubt and so yeah So eventually yeah I started off actually as a Kinesiology major in college was a Kinesiology major for two years and then right before the pandemic hit which was like literally literally the semester before going on lockdown I changed my
Major to Media Productions so boom change my major then here comes the pandemic so I’m liter I’m literally in my second to Third and part my fourth year in the pandemic on lockdown I to move back to home to Stockton California which was a bit of a struggle I never
Really noticed how much resilience I had in high school and how much how many distract distractions that kind of didn’t that were around me when I was in high school because when I got back to Stockton College and at an older age I’m almost 20 I’m 19 20 21 at this point I
Have my own car I’ve have a job at this point working at at T-Mobile so make every money in my pocket things that nature so I was able to kind of live do what I want essentially and being a student wasn’t very advantageous for me
At the time but I was able to get through it kind of brought out some of that resilience that was instilled in me and was able to get through it get back on campus finish up my degree and then right before I finished I was granted the opportunity to become the editor and
Chief of my newspaper so I took that opportunity as well so that’s pretty much what I’m doing now I’m just Bridging the Gap from working for my newspaper to kind of getting into my career and media production right now so yeah that’s pretty much where I’m at
Right now as far as with my life really fantastic I I love it I love to hear all that Sam how about you all right well here we go the honest truth me so I have a bit of an issue my issue is
Is that I my mom and my dad told me that I could be whatever I wanted to be in life yes I mean I believe them so I thought I could be him and I became that and so my my issue was is I never wanted to be just another
Person and so selfishly in high school I was like all right cool um I’m either gonna have to be an athlete or be Greek otherwise I’m just another somebody else and that like I said selfishly just couldn’t be me just couldn’t be me so going into college I already had the
Mindset all right we we go we go figure out this Greek this Greek thing because I have to maintain my popularity from high school like I said that that’s what I initially what initially was I didn’t actually join my Organization for four years later so a lot of growth a lot of
Changes a lot of mindset a lot of things happened and the reason why IIT like finally made the leap and made the decision to join my organization was because one I had realized that a lot of things I had been doing in my life I was doing for for other
People I have nine siblings oh wow I’m the oldest boy and seven of them are younger than me completely so wow needless to say I always had a responsibility to be a positive example so like I said I always wanted to be an example and so a lot of things I did in
My life was just to be that example it wasn’t necessarily because I wanted to do it right wasn’t because I like to do it I didn’t hate it so it was like let me just I I’ll be the scapegoat and I’ll go through it because this is what you’re supposed to
Do and then I just going through college like I was just like everything that I wanted to be Greek for coming out of high school didn’t matter I wanted to be popular I couldn’t walk on campus without someone knowing who I was like getting to class all time was a struggle
Because I I was always getting stopped connections okay well I work with the housing department and work in student government so I have people to write me letters of recommendation I have connections I don’t really need it for that Brotherhood I have nine siblings I think
I’m good on that maybe an older brother like that was the only baby driving force like because I was the oldest I wanted someone else to kind of like look up to look up to and could Mentor me but I had everything like coming like four
Years later I I had like do I still want to do this and the answer was yes so that’s when I knew like you’re doing this for yourself and this is something that you need to do yeah and like I said I fell in love with Kappa because of who
They are what they represent of how they carry themselves the work they put in just like just everything about it was just like that’s that’s me that reflects who I am I’m not joining this to become like them I’m not joining this to be around people
Like them so people assume this is how I am like this is a mirror of who I already am it only makes sense and also do something for yourself yeah that was the biggest thing really for me like I said selfishly I still wanted to be the
Man but because I was the F most photographed person in my yearbook I have the yearbook and I actually counted everybody’s names with the with the with the multiple numbers and I have the top I’m not tied with nobody there I I it’s me really just means I did too much in
School and I didn’t get no sleep that’s all I never slept oh my goodness that’s that was that’s really my journey and then the just the love I felt from my chapter my grandma actually died like while we was doing all the the paperwork and the formal process of becoming a member
And cheap to join and at that moment with my grandma being out like I just I didn’t want I no longer wanted to pay for it so like I still want to be cap but I I I I could use this money for something else like at at this point I’m
In college and so even though that’s my grandmother so I’m not really involved with the process of what’s going on and the finances of it but I’m my dad’s oldest right so you carry that responsibility just vent to me because I that’s just my job that’s my position I’m the person he
Vents to and so it’s like I know these things and so it’s like I could be using this for other things I wanted to take a break from school I want to go home like my grandma was a big big part of my life and it was at that it just seemed
Like every like it just she gave me her car right before she passed away and I knew that’s what she was doing and it was just the way she gave it to me then she passed away then like a week later the engine dies and it I was just done I
Was but my brothers they weren’t even my brothers yet they were just the men who were potentials aspirants with me they just showed me so much compassion love understanding and that I just and they didn’t know me I was I was joining an organization to have this connection and
To get it from people that don’t know me yet before we even get to the point to where quote unquote we’re family and now you know you have to love your family you don’t have a choice type thing like even before we get to this moment where
It’s just like hey bro like I don’t know if I want to do this no more they’re just like yeah you do and it just reminding me of who I am and who what I wanted and what my desires was just my grandma wouldn’t wanted me to quit
And just just but being there and not allowing me to just go through that tough time of my own I was it’s something that I can’t I’m it’s invaluable because I wouldn’t have went to no one else just because of my personality of always having the responsibility to be the example uh
Comes to certain things I won’t show certain emotions just because I feel like I’m PR protecting everyone else or I’m showing or being the example of like it’s okay like you can get through it you can be okay like yeah so for whatever reason I I don’t I couldn’t allow myself to express
That around my family as much as I needed to do to process and my brothers allow me that space and so I it was like I said I joining this organization is one of the one of the best choices I made in my life and it’s something I do
Over and over again that’s awesome I mean that sense of Brotherhood especially in the black community is often challenging so it’s it’s wonderful to hear stories like that because I think it just emphasizes how often you see you I mean you feel it when you have a fraternity
Like yours so I mean that’s awesome love to hear that all right wow well we are running out out of time at this point but tell me maybe all of you can kind of end with something that you want to say about Kappa alphas saai and kind of give
Us what some of your aspirations are or maybe you can talk a little bit about traditions and what you see kind of the newer Generations coming coming up what kind of words of advice would you give to those out there that are seeking Kappa okay so I would just say for me
Just do your research everyone has their own websites and that will tell you the basics of what the organization is be yourself then don’t don’t be shy don’t don’t I know it’s intimidating to come up sometimes because we’re we’re such a we’re we’re such a tight-knit group that
It’s it’s almost intr feels intrusive sometimes to approach us but please come up approach us show interest and you know don’t be nervous like if it’s something that you really want to do pursue it and if it’s something that you find out that you don’t want to do it’s
Not for everybody don’t feel like you’re a failure don’t feel like you’re missing out because not everyone has the best experience anyway it’s really what you make of it just like what life is yo yo yo to the nukes all right yeah and I like to say pretty much like what Sam
Said he he was 100% correct about everything he said but do your research when it comes to interest in any Greek organization yeah also with doing your research when when you are approaching Greek organizations that you are interested remember to stay discreet with things nowadays everybody wants to
Build a lot of things on social media and Instagram and Twitter and all that and when the co of these Greek organizations your interest with them discretion is key it’s a traditional thing that we all have from our founding members and even and and spent around
For a long time and it’s very important to us so remember to stay discreet stay humble um we done nobody’s too cool for school me we all we all at the same school we all taking the same probably not the same classes but you’re like we’re all in the same place so remember
To stay humble stay discreet and and like Sam said man don’t be sorry man do your research and when you are interested when you feel like you’re ready to express your interest in any Greek organization make sure you do it properly and and and do it properly
Awesome thank you for that all right Chuck we’re gonna give you the last word hey I’m easy I knew pie to the day I die so smooth so smile so de there Melissa you just had the noops on your show we in the atmosphere nothing else to say with the
Crimson and with the crimson and with the crimson and cream everywhere we go they dream but some try many are call well few are chosen hey just want to uphold the Legacy that was laid before for us and be the best men that we can be to inspire service in the public interest
Lead others and do what we’re call to do all right just just leave that’s it we’ll leave on that note thank you all so much again Forin thank you thank you thank you for it’s been a pleasure to have you all and uh look forward to connecting with you all in the future
All right and I gotta get on this floor for your sister get home hey right go ahead how we say all the noops in the house say I hope that translates both in the audio and video well all right all right thanks you guys I appreciate it you’re welcome thank you
For having all right righton man it’s good to see you bro see thank you guys hey I’m about to mop this floor and finish this dinner I’ll call you after I’m getting trouble now he going be in the dog house yeah all right now all right all right take
Care you guys all right all right bye bye thanks for joining me on the Jolly podcast please subscribe so you won’t miss an episode see you next Week this podcast is a part of the SE Suite radio Network for more top business podcasts visit c-set radio.com
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