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Goes that’s a Hot Topic and it’s been a fascination of mine and if it’s a fascination of yours then you’ve landed in the right episode because today we have a a good brother in Christ that has come forward and he’s speaking about his experiences with the Freemasons he is a third deegree
Freemason uh but before we get started just some little context for everybody’s before we get rolling in and I introduce Our Guest uh but with Freemasonry it’s often claimed that Freemasonry is the oldest surviving secret society in the world with num numerous beliefs about the beginnings it seems to point toward
Ancient and esoteric Origins it’s been variously argued that it derives from practices of medieval stonemasons and that it dates events surrounding the construction of the Temple of Solomon and it is connected with the ancient mystery Cults the creation of the Grand Lodge in England in 1717 is often seen
As a major turning point or events of the history of Freemasonry and the order became more visible to a wider public for the first time George Washington Ben Franklin and a large majority of the founding fathers were freem masons in recent years there’s even been connections made with Jack the Ripper
But the only requirements to be a part of this fraternity is that you be 18 to 21 be quote unquote Freeborn and believe in a supreme deity which they like to call the Divine architect and their motto which I’ve heard say is they make good men better so who can argue with
That like to introduce today our guest Brady Brady thank you for coming on man oh thanks for having me on man I appreciate it I’m humbled by it actually so it’s uh it’s amazing how fascinated people are uh uh yeah so I’m 36 uh we
You know as we’ like to say I’m a knuckle dragger uh I’m a CNC operator actually just got promoted to to lead hand of our shift not long ago um been uh you know mostly just in the trades did a little stint in finance for a little bit um but uh yeah for
Career-wise that’s just been I’m you know a trades guy I like to fix things and you know tear things down and rebuild them and stuff so uh that’s kind of uh what I do now when I was in finance so one of the things when you’re you know self-employed you got to kind
Of get your feet on the ground and try to find business right so when I was self-employed in finance I wanted to kind of network myself and so I came up with the the bright idea to join the Freemasons so and uh you know so I started doing some research because you
Always hear the conspiracy theories about uh you know the things that go on there and how they you know run the entire world and stuff like that and uh I would say it’s it’s not 100% accurate but but it’s pretty accurate so so I got in I I started researching it to figure
Out how to get into it and uh cuz I was always under the impression that you had to be invited uh into to the Freemasonry organization um which is actually not true um you can just literally go on whatever uh area you live in you can go
On their grand uh Lodge website and they’ll have an application and you literally just fill out the application and they have a saying to be one ask one um like it’s even on their license plate covers and stuff like that sometimes to be one ask one um so because their
Numbers for the longest time uh were starting to dwindle uh once the internet kind of came out and uh social media became a good way to network yourself for some people um they didn’t necessarily need the fraternities anymore right so uh yeah so I got in and so
There’s actually quite the process to get into it right so you you fill up your application or you’re invited in whichever one uh whichever route you go and they will contact you and kind of figure out uh the general area that you’re in and give you like a list of
The different lodges that uh are in that area and then you just basically choose which Lodge you kind of want to go to now I had meetings um in the evenings with Finance so I had to pick a lodge that uh met on a night of the the week
That wasn’t during those meetings so I just happened to pick a good one that I liked and now and the building that I was in actually had 12 different lodges that met in that specific building uh because it was owned by uh another group called the Scottish right which is
Actually uh basically an off branch of masonry in a sense and so I would meet there and I kind of went through the you know the initiation so they they contact you they will you know you pick a lodge then they contact that Lodge then the lodge contacts you and basically
Basically they’ll do what they call the investigation where they’ll send out three Master Masons and those three Master Masons will sit down with you if you’re married they’ll sit down with your wife as well and you know just kind of have a conversation with you gauge
The type of person that you are um explain what they expect you to do what uh you know you’re kind of expecting out of it um just really have that you know I guess three-on-one conversation and then they take their uh investigation report back to the lodge
And the next lodge meeting they end up uh basically voting on whether or not they want you in and so they’ll come around so they have a guy with a little box and it’s got uh black balls and white balls and so he’ll literally just
Go around you pick a black ball put it in or a white ball and put it in uh if you get one black ball you’re done you you know you’re never getting in um so you have to have all white balls in order to to be voted in so generally um
I’ve never like I I saw a few I voted on a few people to get into the lodge that I was a member of and I’ve never seen anybody get black balled I’ve heard of a few cases personally but I’ve never actually witnessed them H and again I
Think that’s just because the numbers had been dwindling so they’re like anybody who wants to get in let’s get them in kind of thing and so yeah so I went through I was in for a little bit not not too long um I wanted to what
Year was this Brady so I started the process in in 2012 was when I actually started the process of um picking a lodge and getting voted on and things like that and then I got my master Mason’s third degree Master Mason in November of 2014 so it took you about two years to
Go through the process yeah yeah uh which is actually quite fast to be honest um generally it’s a little bit longer than that I ended up going through my first two degrees within the first year year um but they typically it’s a year per degree um typically
Anyway but again they just my Lodge was so we had nobody like there was we we barely had enough guys to make a lodge is what they call it you have to have a certain amount of Master Mas in the lodge we had members but we just didn’t
Have people actually showing up and so that was one of the issues like when I got in I was the youngest member in my Lodge by 15 years so you know like and I got in in my my mid 20s so um I got in later than some of these other people
But then we started getting people guys that were coming back and then bringing their you know young sons in and you know they they were becoming you know generational Masons um which for me I knew that I had masons in my family I actually didn’t find out until this past
Weekend um who they actually were so I knew that I had uh a great aunt and my grandmother who were members of the Eastern Star which is the women’s uh sector of Freemasonry but in order to be a member of the Eastern Star you have to have a
Direct family member who’s a Mason and so you know it’s got to be like a father or an uncle or brother or grandfather something like that and i’ had never known uh who it was but this past weekend we had our Canadian Thanksgiving and so uh you know my mom
And I were talking about it cuz she was actually asking about my Bible cuz somebody a friend of hers was telling her about a masonic Bible that had a whole other chapter in it and Mom was like oh is like do you still have your Bible is there like another chapter and
It’s like yeah there’s the very first chapter in the book in the Bible uh is the master Mason’s chapter and so it just goes through all this this other stuff I’m going to I’ll show it to you in a minute um and so I found out that
It was actually uh my grandmother was an Eastern Star great a was the an Eastern Star I had a great uncle and a grandfather and a great-grandfather who were all Masons so I have quite the generational uh going on there yeah generational curses yeah 100% man 100%
And family’s opening doors and then you are opening doors and it just leaves room for stuff like that to creep in 100% like I I was wasn’t born Roman Catholic I wasn’t even born Christian um I when my mother my mother divorced uh when I was four and then she remarried
When I was eight and then so he had two daughters and my mom had my myself and my older sister um I’m actually the youngest the four of us um so three older sisters so that was always nice I had two there you go so you know what
It’s like um so when we moved uh the area that we moved into had a really Dungy uh looking public school and then it had a really nice looking Catholic school and so my parents were like you know what school would you guys like to
Go to and I was only in grade two at the time so um we’re like let’s go to the Catholic School it’s nicer I want to go to that one so then we had to you know get baptized and do all that uh you know the first communion stuff in order to
Actually attend this school so um that’s kind of how we got into it and then I became an alter server for quite some time and uh but then by the time I hit about 12 to 13 years old um I just had a really off feeling about the church in
General especially my specific Church like the we found out um a number of years ago now that the priest that uh was there when I was a child was actually uh touching boys and uh so he pled guilty to that a few years back um the high school the Catholic High School
He went to same thing one of the teachers was Mo well a few of the teachers were molesting girls one of them was admitted to it and you know pled guilty um there’s a whole lot load of girls that came forward about it so you know so my instincts of of where we
Were going were pretty good pretty spot on unfortunately um so I just I had this real negative outlook on religion um so I kind of went the other way like I met I met some people and went the complete opposite dark side I guess and started getting into the Witchcraft and you know
And then from there kind of into the new age when I once I was in my 20s and stuff and so yeah we did you know seances and spellcasting you know runes and Tarot and and just everything that you’re not supposed to do you know um so which I think was what
Helped amplify because like you you know you already got the generational curses from all these you know masons in the family and uh you know and then as you’re getting older you’re starting to do all this stuff that you’re not supposed to do you’re literally just you’re inviting them in you’re kicking
The door down for them you know um for this this oppression and influence like you know I wasn’t possessed flying you know crawling up walls and stuff like that but there’s been like 2011 is kind of a blur for me um I don’t really remember much of that year um then I had
Uh mental health issues to the point that I tried jumping off a cliff in 2013 um and the interesting story about that was so it was shortly after I got into Masons and I by that point I was a second degree and i’ already taken two
Heavy Oaths um hand on the Bible kind of Oaths um and and then my mental health started to really slip I was going through some personal issues and uh I just had enough um like I was thinking about the next you know 50 60 years of
My life and I was like I don’t like I just it was unbearable the thought of it was unbearable for me and so like I’m standing on uh this escarpment in the area that I grew up in and uh which ironically was uh right down the street
From a place called the devil punch bow um and uh yeah like I was I was trying to you know think of everything to get me to walk back from that edge and I just nothing nothing could do it and so I went to go
Forward and I the way I describe it is as if I was had like a bungee cord attached to my back and I was at full extension when I kind of went forward and it just shot me back cuz something grabbed me and pulled me literally phys
Physically yanked me back and was like no not like this and it was just at the time I kind of uh chocked it up to like because I was Raising it yeah like I was very new age at that time so I was like oh like
My Spirit guides you know like they were the ones that stopped me you know and now I’m like no that was my that was 100% my guardian angel coming down and and you know pulling me back from making a very bad Eternal mistake you know because that’s just
Something like my uncle so uh one of my uncles who was one of my best friends when I was in high school he ended up committing suicide he did it with uh liquor and a handful of pills in a motel room so um that put me down a very dark
Road when I was in high school CU by the time I was 14 15 I had an alcohol problem so I was already an alcoholic by the time I was 15 by and then by the time I hit 16 I was uh real heavy into pills and you know skipping school
Coming home you know 5:00 in the morning kind of thing skip sneaking out of my bedroom window and going out and partying and then he killed himself and that made things even worse and then my grandma passed away with about a year later um and I spiraled I spiraled out
Of control um and then by the time I was 18 I almost had a heart attack because of all the drugs that I was on I tell you Bry uh you know we’ve talked over messenger and stuff a lot and yeah I think we’ve kind of bonded
Because we’re both uh you know same cloth kind of guys but it’s like when I hear your story I know why we connect so much because God man we’re we’re so similar but the only difference was was I grew up in church from day one and my grandparents were you know praying
Grandparents my mother was a Praying Mother and and my Rebellion kicked in once I you know got like 15 16 years old I just went full Rebellion and and just like you man uh just partying doing drugs and even delved into you know little bit of Witchcraft with some
People and doing seances trying to you know just do all this rebellious stuff and I’ve had uh many friends dying car wrecks uh I’ve rolled cars off mountains before it walked away without a scratch even have seat Bel on uh friends overdose and die right in front of me
Doing the same amount of stuff stuff that I was doing and it was just uh like you said it’s we can chalk it up to or try to rationalize that you know oh it was my spirit guide or oh I I was just lucky no
I mean that that that was God and it’s just uh really cool that uh that you’re being you know open and vulnerable like that and just sharing your story with us because I really appreciate that that you know that connects some dots for me that’s like that’s why we’re we’re
Connecting here well to be honest with you it’s up until like I I didn’t start praying like I mean my girl and I we just moved to where we’re at now in uh April end of April early May um and like I was you know we we spent about a year
Looking for a place and during that time like I was making offerings to you know Lowe lowercase G Gods at that time it wasn’t until this past you know end of February early March that I literally I woke up one morning and just had this un bearable need to
Pray which was the first time in over two decades that I was like I prayed I I you know like I was just I woke up it was very confusing I I to this day still can’t understand it um so I was like but it was just this overwhelming feeling
Like I’m like I need to pray so I did and so I like you know I remembered you know the the L’s prayer from Catholic school and stuff so I that was what I did I just prayed that a couple times and then went on about my day didn’t
Think any any more of it then the next morning woke up same thing like I need to pray I need and and so it became very confusing for me because like why why do I feel like this you know and then from there it was like I started finding
Podcasts that were because I I big into the Paranormal I love the Paranormal stuff but I wanted something that came at it from a Christian view and so that’s kind of where I started with that you know and it’s just been it’s been this journey you know um over the last
I’d say nine months now where it’s like like even my parents are like who who are you like you know because I’m in my infancy stages of of coming back to Christ uh you know I won’t deny that um but I’ve been I’ve been really soaking
It up me so it’s like I’m a very private person so for me to even want to you know come on the podcast was a big deal but I just felt like I needed to like it was something that God was like directing me to do
Because the word’s got to get out people like I want you know if I help just one person stay away from doing you know some of the the the grab that we did that you shouldn’t be doing um you know that’s good good enough for me you know
So um that’s why I I want to been wanting to share my story with the Freemasonry stuff people don’t realize like most of the guys in it you know and again I I’ll just speak from my experiences like I don’t I don’t speak for anybody else or any other lodges or
Anything like that I just I’ll speak from what I’ve seen um most the guys that are there it’s a boy club it’s a night out it’s a night away from the wife having a few beers the lodge you know shooting the breeze most times people when they think
Of Freemasonry it’s like oh we go they go to The Lodges and they plot to take over the world all you know or do all this nefarious stuff pinky in the brain exactly right like what do we want to do tonight same thing we do every night try
To take over the world right like uh unfortunately that’s it’s a false way to look at it like the the lodge meetings are there specifically um it’s and it’s I don’t you know mean to be Blasphemous right comparing it to church but it’s kind of like church where it’s just more
Of the ritualistic side you’re going there to do your you know like when you go to church you go there to to praise God and learn about God when you go to you know Freemasonry Lodge it’s literally there to um basically praise the Brotherhood go through your your you
Know if you got initiations or you’re bringing somebody up through the ranks or you go through Lodge minutes vote on candidates things like that um the nefarious take over the world planning all happens outside of the Lodge at country clubs you know and cabins off in in the wilderness somewhere um when
They’re you know just shooting the breeze with each other um Lodge is just strictly more of the rituals right so uh thankfully for me uh I stayed relatively like I started to go through what they call going through the chairs which is uh you have all the different officers
Throughout the lodge um can’t remember the name of them all there like Junior Deacon senior Deacon Junior Warden senior Warden Tyler Tyler or P my together seven yeah so the worshipful master right they’re the head one so and then after you’ve been worshipful M because they rotate uh the people
Through the chairs every year once a year they they’ll rotate so every year you’ve got a new worshipable master for that entire year and and then after you’ve been the worshipful master they you get the title of what they call the past master and you can actually so when
You uh like so I have uh I have one of the Rings here that I had so that’s my ring there and so depending on if you were a uh if you haven’t been a worshipable master you wear the symbol One Direction if you are a past Master
You wear the symbol a different direction and the past Master actually has their own symbol as well um to signify that they they’re a pass master um you can get one for your car too like if you were a pass master you can actually put a pass master symbol emblem
On your car um that help with the law enforcement it does it it does so I had a some lodes I guess will give you one I had to buy mine um it was $10 on at a masonic store so I was like whatever the money goes
Back to the the Brotherhood right so I was like support local cool so I bought this down when I stock it on the back of my car and uh I specifically remember one time uh I was driving a little faster than I probably should have been uh not too crazy I don’t I
Don’t have as much of a Lead Foot now as I used to but um driving a little bit fast got pulled over and I kind of see him as he’s walking up the side of my car like or up to the side of my car
Just say kind of do a double take at my bumper and uh like I know he noticed it right away and so he pulled me over and you know he comes up and he does one of those things uh uh it’s just like you know uh there’s different phrases right
There’s different different little phrases you can say you a traveling man you’re a traveling man right and yes I I and I for some reason always get this backward it’s it’s west to east for some reason I kept saying east to west but it’s w traveling to the east to the
Light in search of light so it’s and then you know then they’ll ask you like oh what’s your your mother’s name and that is in reference to the the name of the lodge that you came up in so mine was Temple right and it’s like you also
Give the age which is you know the number so what’s your mother’s name and then you’ll say like in my case it was Temple 324 right so I’ll say my mother’s name is Temple and she’s 324 and if those guys ever hear me giving these secrets out you know that’s
Fine Bring It On um but yeah so it’s then he you know he just kind of like you were going a little fast just keep it slower and you know have a good day and walked away that was it you you know so it’s it’s one of those things where
Could have got a ticket you know and I joke I’m like it was near close to the end of the month you know he might not have been at his quota yet so he could have you know easily given me a ticket and uh he didn’t you know um just
Because I was part of the same or I’ve never met him like he wasn’t part of my Lodge I don’t know who he is um but there’s just they’re everywhere you know how do you how do you it’s worldwide fraternity yeah how do you control the narrative you infiltrate every industry
Right like Hollywood politics policing you know the judicial uh system like judges and lawyers and stuff but then you’ve got uh the other side of the coin too like me like knuckle draggers right like uh you want cheap labor done on your house if you’re a plumber cool
Right like we had a guy uh at my Lodge that owned a a car dealership so guys would just buy cars off them right because why not go get it go get it at Cost instead of retail right um which is one of the reasons I got into it in the
First place is I wanted more customers for finance the only problem from my side of things was I was competing with another guy who was in finance who you know was also a 33rd degree um so uh we kind of used to bump heads because he
Was very old school in his thinking when it came to Investments and I was a little bit more new school and I was outperforming him and uh yeah it caused a little little Rift which is one of the reasons I got out um among other reasons but uh yeah yeah
It’s it’s it is you know quite the boy club and it’s funny cuz like there’s that Simpsons episode right with the Stone Cutters and you know he’s like oh here’s the emblem for your car you know dial this no 912 is now the number not
911 and so it’s it’s there’s a lot of fact in that you know where they take care of each other there’s also you know I’ve I’ve never personally experienced it I don’t like to to fly it’s very painful for my ears um because of all
The scar tissue on my eard drums U so I I try to only travel where I could drive to but uh you know there’s the the the saying that you can travel the world on a penny right it’s I knew guys that would travel uh to places like Peru to
Do missionary work um and you know they would literally just go down to the local Lodge of whatever area and that they were at and be like you know go through their little initiation uh or investigation sorry to prove that they’re you know a Mason outstand upstanding you know
Freemason and they’d have a place to stay for a month you know somebody that would H them feed them you know take them around you know and then there’s like different uh signs of distress they call it which is kind of like a placement of hands and you standing with
Your feet at a right angle in a crown yep yeah well it’s it’s all about the way you’re standing your hands the way you move certain phrases that you say um that the average person’s not really going to pick up on you know they might think that it little weird but you know
Everything’s weird nowadays so um if you know what you’re looking for though you see it everywhere so like you could go to an airport and just kind of throw up now they tell you never to actually use the sign of distress unless you’re actually in distress right like um but
I’ve heard stories of guys like where you know they needed to get home for whatever reason their flight gets canceled you know and they would just throw up the sign of distress in the airport and within 5 minutes they got somebody helping them out you know um
So you hear those types of stories um and that’s I think where people get a little angry it’s like the average person can’t do that right like and that’s where a lot of I think the rumors come from is is like oh you know they’re just they’re secret Club well that’s
What’s the best way to keep something Secret hideing in in the plain sight you know that’s why you see The Lodges everywhere like even here in in Ontario where I live every little town and city that you drive into they’ll have like a welcome to you know town and they’ll
Have signs with all the different clubs that uh have uh different clubhouses or whatever in that town and you’ll see the Masons on them every time like uh almost every city has one almost every little town has one they’re they’re literally everywhere um you know and then you’ve
Got the Knights of Columbus which is like the Roman Catholics version of Freemasonry because they Tred to compete with the Freemasons and made up their version yeah because they they re realized how popular that type of like fraternity uh Brotherhood was becoming then the esoteric too I mean everybody wants to
Know Secrets man 100% you know everybody wants to know hey I want to know yeah like what do you know that I don’t know you know and so that’s that’s and they go right back to like you were saying in in the intro like uh you know they they
Quote biblical uh stuff like biblical text like the King Solomon’s Temple and the third degree um initiation is actually a mock killing so you play uh the H right which was the The Master Mason guys what’s up Tom Dunn here from through the BL and we have launched our
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Episode that we released to the all accx passholders back around Halloween I talked to Brady in this session for almost 3 hours he had the just breathtaking stories just mindbending stories about some of the supernatural experiences and stuff that he had that was related to these generational curses and this this Freemason uh
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Also keep Brady in your prayers Brady’s been having some health issues here recently so any kind of prayers that you can send up for him I know he’d greatly appreciate so back to the episode guys you play him unknowingly because you have no idea you’ve never seen this
Ritual before you have no idea what’s going on um and if you’re a second or a first deegree Mason when they open the lodge so they have they open it in first degree then they’ll open it in second degree then they’ll open it in third degree and if you’re a second degree you
Can’t be in the lodge so I I’ve actually been to meetings where I literally had to sit in the hallway for over an hour because I was only a second degree I wasn’t allowed in in the lodge so when you’re getting going through this initiation you have no idea what’s going
On and all of a sudden they just got guys attacking you uh quote unquote attacking you with like a blunt object you know to to reenact the murder of the master builder H MTH right because he was the one that you know oversaw the building of King Solomon’s Temple and
Then you know the the phrases for uh their pass grips their handshakes are you know Boaz and jacin and and shith and um tubalcain you know so like all biblical things and like Boaz and Jac and I think it was were the two pillars in Temple right so it’s very it’s all
Representing strength the other one represented uh wisdom and when you combine wisdom and strength that gives stability exactly yeah yeah so you’ve done your reading you know what do you need me for you got everything oh no I I don’t have firsthand knowledge I just
Read well to be fair um like most of the ritualistic stuff is like you can find it online easily uh if you know what you’re you know you’re looking for like you you were saying you’ve been reading uh morals and Dogma right so that talks a lot about it um there’s another good
One uh Duncan’s ritual something like that um what was it called I’m going to look it up right now it is uh I was literally just looking at it this morning uh Duncan’s Masonic ritual and monitor it’s written in 1866 so it’s a little little old school in the language
Um but that one’s also got um literally every every ritual uh from the 1 to the seventh degree I think it is um and so it just you can find everything you want like if you want it online like my mom was like was asking me on the weekend
She’s like oh like aren’t you going to get in trouble like if you’re you know giving away these secrets and stuff I was like I mean the worst they’re going to do is just blackball me from you know the fraternity which to be fair like I when I like I’ve never actually
Officially quit right I just stopped going I stopped going I stopped talking to them I deleted them off my my profiles and stuff like that I changed my phone number and my contact information I just just kind of disappeared from them from them you know and I’ve had contact once from somebody
That I knew prior to joining and uh but aside from that like I’ve never never had any backlash and I think it’s because back in the day yeah maybe like in the 1800s you know before technology if you were giving these secrets though yeah they probably would have done what
Their penalties say they’re going to do right like I don’t know if you’ve uh did you have you read into the penalties yet yeah they used what the uh the the three men that killed ham AEF when they asked him when they asked one each one individually if they uh had killed
Him uh each one of them said a different phrase like no may my tongue be torn out and my my heart be stabbed and all this stuff and which I’m just paraphrasing I’m shooting off the hip here but each one of them had said some kind of
Horrific death that no I would rather you do this to me than I kill the the grandm and then they proved that they did and they admitted it and they used their own words against him they they punish and tortured and killed them with the words that they had spoken yeah I’ve
Got the actual penalties I can read them off to you if you want yeah go ahead because uh they’re quite uh quite nasty I mean obviously that I don’t think they’ll get away with it these days but you know back in the day I could see it
So it’s uh yeah having my throat cut across so this is like you saying like you know I somly swear that if I you know divulge any secrets or I you know uh do anything that I’m not supposed to do as a that you know you guys can do this to me
As a punishment and so under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across my tongue torn out by its roots and my body buried in the sand the rough Sands of the sea at low water mark where the tide es and flows twice in 24
Hours should I ever knowingly violate this my Entered Apprentice obligation so that’s number one number two is um under no less penalty than that of having my breast torn open my heart plucked out and placed on the highest Pinnacle of the temple um uh some say my heart and vitals taken
From then and thrown over my left shoulder and uh there but so basically my heart plucked out and placed on the highest Pinnacle of the temple there to be devoured by the vultures of of the air should I ever knowingly violate my fellowcraft which is the second degree
And then uh the third degree is uh no less penalty that of having my my body severed in two my bowels taken from then and burned to ashes the ashes scattered before the Four Winds of Heaven that no more remembrance might be had of so vile
A wicked and wretch as I would be should I ever knowingly violate this my master Mason’s obligation yeah so back in the day those were taken literally like like if you violated any part of your obligation that’s what would happen to you you know but now you never know I
Mean nowadays I mean they still might with those the groups within the group like you talk about the guys smoking cigars and drinking brandy after the show you yeah like people people disappear all the time right so um I uh I’ve like I’ve never had since I’ve
Started talking to about it’s been more of a spiritual warfare than anything um like right down to just feeling like a really heavy energy yeah heavy and Dre it yeah yeah like it’s it’s like it happened to me so I got home from work like I work the
Afternoons right so I my shift’s actually from uh 4 to 2 2:30 a.m. but I’m starting early 1 130 in the afternoon working to 2:30 in the morning I get home literally between 3: and 3:15 in the morning so witching hour right great time to be getting home at um so I
Came up to bed uh the other night when I got home from work and it was just the it was just this heavy heavy I couldn’t like it was almost like I couldn’t breathe um even my girl got him she’s like what’s going on like like I
Couldn’t sleep um I was trying so hard I I you know every time I would fall asleep it was like I would wake up in a panic um and it’s it’s it was literally the same night that we were planning uh to do this like the night that we had
Started uh you know what time when what day kind of thing um when we were discussing and planning for this it was the same night and it’s like every time that I’m going to do something with a podcast it’s just something always happens um you know the the first one uh
My wife uh she had a a blowout on the highway going into work the morning of so it’s like I got no sleep for the first podcast that I was on uh second podcast was same thing I can’t remember what it was but something ended up happening um I don’t think my headphones
My my my headsets weren’t working properly they couldn’t hear me at first it was like just weird all weird stuff always happens um around the time that I’m I’m going to be speaking about stuff so yeah it’s just spiritual warfare which I was going to address the uh The
Three Degrees and kind of the the rituals so but you started with the third one uh and basically how you said they were reenacting the the murder of hyam AEF and they come at you and they pretend you know to kill you and it says that they knock them to the ground and
Like you are dead you know and they uh your brothers pick you up and basically it’s like a resurrection yeah like it’s a a rebirth of of the new man so that that that’s the uh the final ritual but to lead to lead up to that like the first
One uh the very first initiation is uh give me just one second the right of uh destitution uh could you describe that for us uh like you know uh the whole did they do the whole uh open breasted shirt pant rolled up all describe that in that experience
So when you first get there um you know you basically kind of meet some of the guys um and they’ll have uh one of the members is designated to uh walk you around and and be by your side through the entire initiation so they’ll they’ll take you into this little room like a
Little closet almost and uh you in there you get change cuz um you got to wear a suit when you go to the lodge right like that’s that’s their dress code is you got to wear a suit and so you know you’re there in a suit and then all of a
Sudden they take you into this uh closet room and they’re like okay you got to change into these basically they look like pajamas so they almost remind me of the way I describe it is like um in the movie The Patriot with uh Long John’s the white Long John’s yeah kind of right
Like those that weird undergarment of the of what they you know people used to wear back then um um and the shirt’s got a flap on either over either breast and so the reason for that is in one degree it’s it’s the left breast and the other
Degree it’s the right breast um and then so depending on which degree so the first degree I believe it was like uh left left pant leg rolled up left breast open um you’re you’re literally blindfolded or Hood winked depending on which Lodge you go to we used to
Blindfold at our lodge some lodges will literally put a hood over your head um and then you have uh a toe rope a cable toe around NE around your neck yeah exactly yeah and so that’s what they’re guiding you by so they you’re basically like your your your arm is locked with
The the other Mason who’s leading you through but he’s holding on to the tow rope and then they do they start the ritual so you’re outside of of the actual Lodge room and the building that I went to was massive it had three different Lodge rooms in it of all
Different sizes and so ours was we use the smaller one because our lodge is generally pretty small um so we’re on the third floor so you’re standing in the hallway outside of the lodge room uh blindfolded ready to go and then they do the knock on the door and there’s a
Different knock per degree I don’t remember what I think it’s like uh one tap then one two three or something like that or one one two um for the first degree and uh so then they the the inner guard they’ll open the door and they have a whole it’s like oh there’s an
Alarm at the door it’s like oh C2 what the alarm is like old Shakespearean kind of talk and they open the door and they instruct you to take a step in and you go to take a step in and then you get all of a sudden you feel poke on your
Chest over your heart now um they have a sword you’re supposed to use uh I believe the square for the first degree I don’t know if it’s the square or the compass it’s one or the other but um they’re supposed to use that but some
Loders use the sword we use the sword uh my initiation for some reason don’t know um but that’s how the original R was yeah talked about yeah and I love he talked about the symbolism behind it this is stuff that the common man don’t think about he was like the left pant
Leg was rolled up to show there was no shackles you are a free man freeorn and you are also not a slave to your ideologies you know you’re a free thinker and then the the left uh breast was opened up to show that your heart was open to Enlightenment and knowledge
But at the same time you’re exposed to Danger too with with the blade I thought that was I mean that’s just stuff that most of us just look over you know I know I would have yeah like it’s it’s I I looked over it going through it like I
Didn’t realize half the stuff uh until years later right um and and that’s a good point because it’s like it’s also like with the left breast being open and allowing yourself to be in danger showing um them that you are willing to give yourself to the organization yeah right
It’s it’s that symbolism of like hey I got nothing to hide um I trust you guys and you know here you go like if I do something wrong this is what it is and so yeah so they open you up the door they let you in they poke you in the
Chest with a sword and uh then they have this whole thing where like you know um you need a password to get in and it’s like you know Mason’s whispering in your ear what to say and it’s like I don’t have the password and then it’s like well who has the
Password and then the other Mason would speak up I have it for him and then he’ll say the password and then they you know you got to repeat it and then they you know let you in and they go through this whole uh most of the ritual is is
Really uh walking you around showing you to all the different members um and you saying different phrases and then you take an oath the oath on the Bible with your hands on the Bible and so the placement of your hands on the Bible during your oath is actually the
Placement of your hands when you’re giving salutes I guess you could call it um to other members right so like uh however you have your hands on the Bible uh so it’s like I think it was like this for the first degree where your hands
Are kind of like one hand on top one hand underneath and you have like one hand on the page and then another one underneath like the second degree um and then you also have like alluding to the penel like a salute is also kind of like for
The first degree because like they talk about cutting your throat across so like that’s actually um almost like the salute like literally when you’re when you’re talking to the worshipable master um before you do you got to like salute you know that’s the salute like it’s how the
The penalty of how you would die is is how they salute so so yeah so then they bring you around and then they they literally go through a lot of that like that a part of of the the ritual the biggest part of the rituals is actually just explaining every little different
Symbol to you and the symbolism behind why they’re doing certain things like they talk about uh the rough uh ashlar which is like just a really rough Stone and you know so you said in the beginning Freemasons have they use the phrase making good men better right and
That would be a great uh you know thing to strive for if that’s actually what they were you know striving for um and so they talk about the rush asler um so it’s a rough Stone and then in masonry as you get you know better in like actual stone masonry they use stone
Masonry to and make it uh what’s thank you allegories right to to everyday life right so like you and then going same thing with going through the degrees so like um when you are your first degree you’re a rough Stone when you’re in a second degree it’s you know partially
Rough and part ly smooth and then when you’re in the third degree you’re a perfect squared you know block and so they use that uh you know they they explain that in the ritual like why we talk about this like you know the ru ashler like alludes to your character as
As a Mason and you know learning through uh the degrees and this is why it’s supposed to take a little bit longer than a year per degree because just you’re not supposed to just kind of go through the motions you’re supposed to actually you know learn things they they
Tell you to learn about the sciences and geometry and Mathematics and you know cuz like the lodge is checkered checkered floors it’s it’s laid out every you know the worshipful master sits in the East and so The Lodges are regardless of how the building is built
The room will be laid out that the worful master sits in the East and you know um then you have like The Trestle board that shows uh the different tools and talks about you know again same thing like what each tool represents like they have they have another saying
Uh will meet on the level and we part on the Square right so it’s like we we meet we’re equal it doesn’t matter where we rank in society when we’re in the lodge we are equal you could have the president and you could have a homeless
Guy if he’s a Mason which I would suspect him homeless person would be a Mason but you know you when you’re in Lodge you’re equal it doesn’t matter that you don’t talk about religion you don’t talk about politics because everybody like those are two you know
Things yeah so you know and so yeah so they they teach all that through the the initiations as well right so like that’s big part of the ritual did did they walk you around like when they first led you in cuz I’ve read that they basically do like a ritualistic
Uh like C circles and zigzags and it’s basically like you’re blindfolded you’re just aimlessly wandering around and it’s supposed to like give the illusion of like going through the darkness or the Labyrinth of life and you’re desperate you know for help and and then you’re
Made to ask to see the light yeah and then you’re brought to the east yep because that’s where the sun and the enlightenment is in the worship of a master I didn’t know if that was just stories or no that’s 100% that’s 100% they walk you around blindfolded um and they they basically
Show you off to all the different officers because each officer is in a different chair and then you have your members spread out throughout the lodge as well and they’re they’re walking you around um just yeah three times uh showing you to everybody and at the same time you know you’re stopping that
Somebody and describing like something’s happening um and then yeah they they get to a point where it’s like um what are you in search of is one of the questions it’s like I’m in search of of light and then they they take the blindfold off as if you’ve been brought into the light
You know um is is the symbolism behind it and it’s very blasphemous they uh they try to pretend like they’re God in a sense like they’re bringing and they say like that Mason Mar is the only true way uh is to like through H mff and
His principles as a as a Freemason is the only way to see uh to come into Enlightenment is through H Bith and I’m like nah and even the spiritual warfare that’s behind it because if you look you know in war you have ground rules rules of engagement you know women and
Children off limits you know churches off limits you know things like that well the spiritual realm is no different if you look and it’s common themes in uh your ancient texts uh your movies today uh look at the vampire movies and stuff the the vampire has to be invited
In right it can’t just come in and just do whatever it wants to do so and the same thing if you look at Jesus Christ he can’t just come into your heart you have to ask him to come in you know and that’s basically kind of like what
That’s what it reminded me of cuz just like you’re wandering through the dark and uh you’re lost and and you have to request the light and it’s kind of like a an invitation to the to that other realm I mean just kind of when I read that that’s what it reminded me
Of well yeah they talk about um contracts right um yeah how how like to for like a demon to or you know and and I hate saying that everything is demonic um because it’s not it’s not ever like like but in my in my experience it’s
When you see enough weird dark stuff um it’s hard to not make that that judgment that everything’s just you know nefarious or demonic or you know fallen angel or something like that you know it’s really hard for me to to not make that distinction so I try not to I try
To look at it with a little bit more of an open mind than everything is De you know that goes wrong is demonic but yeah you get contracts man when you when you really like you use the Ouija board you’re literally giving them a contract
To to screw with you you know and then you take these Oaths which you think are you know good but it’s your hand on the Bible taking an oath to an organization that you’re never going to divulge the secrets and if you do they can murder
And torture you and you know and it’s like you’re really just opening yourself up to these these uh dark Forces being able to to do whatever they want and then from there you know everything that I’ve read over the last little while in literature excuse me in literature about
Uh you know generational curses and stuff it’s like with my family family line and having so many Masons and and uh Eastern Star members even my uh my stepdad uh Dave who my mom remarried when I was eight uh even he was a member of a group called The deole Right which
Is like the the youth group for Masons so um I got so much of this generational uh curses or even just ties to Masonic uh Freemasonry so it’s it’s like it starts to make sense when you start to piece things together um and like I said like
If you look into the darkness it’ll stare back you know because they want you to look at them yeah you know you start to see it everywhere um and you start to see people change when they start to look into the darkness and um it can send you down some deep
Depression because they want they want you they want to take you right like they want you to take your own life because then they own you for eternity you know um so yes it’s weird with the symbolism and it’s just ancient too I mean because
If you look back to the history you see the these same rituals yeah throughout many cultures many religions and Cults and stuff like that like the whole wandering blindfolded you know in the dark that’s what the the priests would do at the Temple of asclepius you know scapus you know when
You look at the EMS trucks today you got this staff with a serpent twisting around it well that’s a scapus and people would go with their infirmities to these places and if they decided to heal you they’d give you this you know po poisonous mushroom or whatever drink
To make you hallucinate then they’d lead you down into labyrinths underneath the temple and you would have to wander lost until you finally passed out of sleep and it was loaded with snakes and the snakes would reportedly crawl over you and then they would heal you and then
You look at the uh The Cult of mithis which he was a son deity too rising and resurrecting son God uh they would do their initiation rights and caves in the darkness and you’d be led around through seven stages and it was uh to symbolize the uh
The seven uh spheres which were the planets because they thought that when you died you had to journey through these sacred spheres one at a time and each time being bestowed a gift until you reach the seventh heaven and if you that’s where the judgment is and if you
As you used earlier if you’re not blackballed you get to stay but if you’re blackballed then boom reincarnation you got to go back and start over again do not pass G do not clict $200 yeah reincarnation is an interesting idea actually yeah um I
Don’t know how I feel about that as a as a belief system I I used to kind of think that it would be a cool idea but then I’m like you know life sometimes is so hard that it’s like I don’t know if I
If I’d even want to come back if I had the choice um you know especially the way this world’s been going so yeah but yeah like even like they don’t talk about it much um in Freemasonry but you could basically be any religion and get
In right like you can you can request to have if you’re Muslim you can have the Quran instead of the Bible uh if you’re a Jewish you can have the Torah instead of the Bible you know refer that the sacred law right yeah like they call the
Three great the three great Li when you approached the the worshipful master it was sacred law this choire en compass and yeah number one I think yeah and uh yeah so you can you can basically the way they do it too the reason they do
That is you just have to believe in a Supreme Being um it doesn’t matter what name you give your god um you can be any basically uh anything except for Satanism I believe it is but which is which is funny because um from my like I
Again so I stopped at the third degree I was going to I started the process of getting in um because you have different sectors you’ve got Scottish W which actually goes up to the 33rd degree and there’s two different 33rd degrees there’s uh an honorary third uh 33rd and
Then there’s an uh an active 33rd and so my Lodge had a lot of 303s 30 seconds because again most my Lodge the guys were in the 60s at that point 60s and 70s so some guys were even in their 90s and some of the loges um cuz they would
Travel from their Lodge to my lodge because they had friends in my Lodge and so they’re trying to keep it alive and um but so I was going to go into the Scottish right uh the York right is actually where the knights Knights Templar are uh that’s uh not sure can’t remember
What so then there’s the Shriners which is another separate one and it’s it’s so funny because it’s like I started to see some of these people like and it’s confusing because you like that guy that went down to Peru to do missionary work it’s like he’s literally doing Jesus’s
Work by going down and helping people and spreading the you know the gospel um but then on the other side of things he’s it’s you know he’s part of this organization that on the back side of things is pretty nefarious and I I always I started to kind of piece things
Together because um so the Scottish right here in the area that I live in they run all the blood donor clinics surprisingly enough then you’ve got your Shriner Children’s Hospitals which is you know run by the Shriners um so it’s stuff that is disguised again out in the open hiding
In plain sight as being good and I’m sure they do a lot of good these Children’s Hospitals not to you know say that everybody that works there is is bad but I’m sure there’s a lot of weird things that happen in these places you know same thing with like the the blood
Donor clinics like how we had a blood shortage all of a sudden right and then it’s like you guys just ran like 10 blood clinics this year how how is it that we have a blood shortage um so I was like gets me wondering like what are
They doing with with these the the blood that they even donate and then the real weird one for me is the Masonic chip program which is like a a program where they’ll take like DNA hair samples fingerprints dental records pictures uh whatever of your child and so that if
Your child ever goes missing the cops have a full profile that they can start to to try to track down your child with and it’s like okay that sounds good on the surface but now you’re literally just giving all this personal information about your child to who the
Heck knows you know and who knows what they’re going to do with it and it’s like people are warning you to put pictures of your house and your children and their sporting events on your social media because they can get kidnapped easily you know and meanwhile you got
Parents that are giving away DNA yeah like like uh no you know and and why why is it why is it that they’re so fascinated with DNA and blood well you know like for me I’m an O blood type you know I’m an universal donor and it’s um
So it’s like they always used to love my blood but then they changed their regulations about a decade decade ago where they won’t take my blood because I had cancer as a child so it’s uh you know now they’re like oh now your blood’s tainted I’m like oh all of a
Sudden it’s tainted okay great like I’m like I’m sure if you needed it that bad you would be taking it because you know it’s been 30 years now that I’ve you know been cancer free guys so yeah you know but yeah it’s so you get these weird or you know nefarious
Organizations in my opinion um disguised as good so after you uh after you finish your uh first degree and you go through that initiation uh you’re giv your apron yes and you still have your apron so but yours is special yeah so there’s there’s different aprons for every degree uh the
First degree is literally just a plain white lamb uh apron nothing on it um and that’s the one you you’ll wear they don’t even give you that that’s just literally at the lodge so when you come to the lodge meeting they have um the first and second degree aprons just laid there for
The members that are in those degrees just grab one put it on and and you can go into the lodge and then they kick you out for about an hour or two when they’re doing their mastermation stuff the second degree is uh same thing plain white lamb skin apron with uh just
Basically two blue circles at the bottom of it and it might have blue around the trim and then that’s it and then the third degree gets a little bit more intricate and this is actually what it looks like so a second degree won’t have any of this won’t have the tassels it
Literally just have these two on it and first degree is literally just the center white piece that’s it and then I’ve got the gold around the edges of mine and the tassels gold um and what that represents is that the lodge that I was a member of and even has uh on the
Button I don’t know if that’ll show up but then Sonic symbol on the button there um uh the gold represents that my Lodge has been around for over a 100 years so if your Lodge is younger than 100 years old it’s actually silver around all the
Edges and the tassels and then uh once you hit 100 they give you you switch over to a gold one which I didn’t know for the first two years that I was in in the Brotherhood um but I happened to go another to another Lodge that a guy that
I worked with was a member of and he was going they were doing their uh their chairs so they they were rotating their officers through the chairs that night um and he was becoming an officer so I went to go support him I’m looking at his apron I’m like dude like what’s with
The silver somebody’s like man yours is all tricked out bro yeah right like it’s like oh yeah our lodge is only I think their Lodge was 86 years old or something like that at the time so they they were getting there they’re getting there uh but they so they give you that
They keep you get to keep that you also get uh a pair of white gloves with the symbol on it as well um most times they don’t some lodges don’t even require you to wear them um I think I’ve only wore these twice um and then the real cool
Interesting Blasphemous thing that they give you is a master Mason’s Holy Bible so Master Mason’s uh addition on it and so the first the whole first chapter is actually just literally the master Mason’s chapter it talks about everything uh Master Mason talks about like the different degrees and so when I
Was on the silver pill podcast I just happened to open the page uh and look and first what I saw was Illuminati and then when I was on this the that’s so fringy podcast I couldn’t find it so I made a note that this one I wanted to to
Actually get it just to prove my point that uh see if I can get it on camera I don’t know but it literally says Illuminati in there it talks about Illuminati and so you know it says uh this is questions in answers like what’s the Illuminati what does it signify and
The answer is the enlightened that’s what that’s literally what their description of the illuminus is the enlightened ones and I’m like oh okay well that’s very vague poor poor explanation of it right um but yeah so you have a whole other chapter you get you get this Bible um and again you could
If you know you’re were Muslim they would have a probably Quran version for you so um those are the things that give you and then I got I paid for the emblem for my car myself uh the ring uh that was a gift to me uh the Grand Lodge so
Just what happened on the night that I was getting they call so you were saying like they they raise you up right so uh you’re the third degree so um once they kill you they resurrect you they raise you up so that’s where the phrase uh I
Was raised so like you have I was initiated then second degree is I was passed and then the third degree is I was raised so you’re basically being raised from the dead uh becoming a whole new person blah blah blah so on the night that I had my third degree
Ceremony one of the Grand Lodge members uh of Canada just happen to be there doing his rounds because they have to do rounds at every Lodge um so I ended up getting an honorary Canadian flag Masonic pin um and then I also have a uh sterling silver pen that was uh I
Believe this was my grandfathers now that I I know who is oh wow yeah sterling silver tyin so uh my mom actually gave me this um because they didn’t keep anything else um after everybody passed away they got rid of everything uh so like well with those
Aprons is there any like uh are you wor of like did they tell you about any of the uh the symbolism or the representations of it when they gave it to you they they do um I can’t remember offand I have so in this book uh this
Black book here it’s pretty thick but it’s all the different rituals okay the only challenge with it is that if you can see everything’s in dashes and acronyms oh okay it’s coded so it’s coded so if you don’t remember it it’s hard to to really like this this does
Nothing for you like this is what they give you to uh learn uh the different parts of the ceremonies and the rituals right and I’m like well this doesn’t help me like as a new person I’m like what am I supposed to do with this like I I don’t know what
Half of this means so um I had a buddy who referred me to a website he also had handwritten notes which is technically against uh your oath you’re not supposed to write anything down um carve it in a stone nothing like it’s you know uh that’s part of the the obligations that
You’re not going to do any of that stuff U but yeah they I know that they do again that’s when they’re walking you around like your your oath ritual side of things is maybe like 20 minutes and then the the rest of your uh initiation or being past the second degree being
Raised to the third degree is literally them just explaining everything to you and they do it so like it’s so much and you’re meeting literally I just it’s like I just worked a 10hour shift at work I got to go home shower get changed go to the lodge meeting and then I got
To be there for like three hours while they’re lecturing me just Mass amounts of data so much right that like and and as a 25y old at this point like I just I didn’t care about it that much that I didn’t really pay attention to it um you
Trying to make a business connections yeah like I was just trying like I was there mainly for the boys club right like I didn’t I didn’t care to get lectured like that was one of the reasons I I hated church so much was getting lectured you know so um it to me
Like that’s I almost kind of like it’s it was very similar in that stance like there was a lot of sit and stand there was no kneeling but there was a lot of sitting and standing sting and standing and you know and saying different phrases and stuff like that and it
Really reminded me of church in that sense so but they do have like a whole whole lectures like uh then the you know like the uh like here I just opened a page that right to the beginning it says the work and uh it’s like you are encouraged uh you are to encourage
Industry and reward Merit Supply the wants and relieve the necessities of Brethren and fellows to the utmost of your power and ability and on no account wrong them or see them wrong but apprise them of approaching danger and view their interests as Inseparable from your own such is the nature of your
Engagements as Craftsmen and these Duties are you are now Bound by the most sacred ties to observe and then it’s like you will now take your seat to for the evening to the right of the worshipable master and the left left of all the senior brethen president so it’s
Like and then they know they literally go through like uh like more ra like they talk about uh you know the same thing like the what’s the the compass allude to what’s the square allude to what’s Jacob’s Ladder because they talk about Jacob’s Ladder in Mason that’s in the second uh second
Degree because I was about to ask is I know the second degree I read in Albert P book said that there was a uh a finding staircase with seven steps and that when you take the initiation of the second degree you are LED and you ascend of this winding staircase of seven steps
Which again goes back to you know the seven sacred Sciences the seven planetory spheres of Mithra you’re ascending and uh once you get there you’re you get the reward or the Wages that’s the word you get the wages of your work which is corn wine and oil and
It said the corn is your sustenance because we all need bread uh the wine uh symbolizes uh Happy good times and the the oil was uh I think joyfulness or something like that but basically it was saying that for doing the work which is good deeds you th these are your just
Rewards you know it’s the first first time I’ve heard that in about a decade you’ve done your research you’ve done your research that’s definitely a deep dive into that actually that’s good I like That
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