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You what’s up everybody welcome back to the Draymond Green Show honored to have this next guest uh we’ll be listing off accolades for a while but as you know must get a proper introduction when you come to the Draymond Green show so here we go uh two time WNBA Champion two time
Finals MVP three times WNBA MVP eight time WNBA Allstar eight time all WNBA first team four time all WNBA second team uh my favorite part of the of the Accolade list two-time WNBA Defensive Player of the Year let’s go two time two time WNBA all defensive first
Team two time second team uh has the number nine retire retired by the Los Angeles Sparks and the number 33 retired uh by USC I’d like to welcome our next guest the great Lisa Leslie how are you I’m doing great thanks for having me absolutely no thank you for coming on uh
This is such an honor um I always crack jokes about you got to be a legend to have accolades to come on this show and you blow it out the water so we really appreciate you coming on thank you a lot of hard work but you know about that I
Love defense so when you said that I’m like ah every time I didn’t make it or get like you know all defensive anything like I really love playing defense which is why I admire your game so much I really love the way you play basketball thank you I appreciate that um you know
And that that’ll lead me right into my first question um as someone you know who did it both on the defensive end and the offensive end you start looking at these uh WNBA first teams uh MVP Finals MVP I can tell you you’re not getting no know are worse by only playing defense
So I just want to talk to you initially um what what is your feeling on the defensive side and the offensive side one thing I always say is just like defense you have to have chemistry just I mean offense you have to have chemistry just like um off the offensive
End you you essentially kind of have to have sets on the defensive end and different things what is your take on the difference in how it’s viewed on the offensive end and the defensive end as far as our sport goes get in on the action with the draftking sports book an
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Speak for like what’s in the mind of these players now but I feel like speaking for for myself I just always felt like I’m that last line of defense and I have to be reliable and it comes down to trust you know it comes down to trust and reliability I think of defense
Like a relationship you know I think you you have to be accountable and you can’t just talk about it even though communication’s key right so to that first line is that communication in the back the same thing that you do you know you’re back there directing traffic um
But we also because we have high IQ for basketball that anticipation of what’s coming next and that starts with our scouting reports right we understand what’s going to be happening understanding what their offens is and what they’re looking for and then anticipating what they want to do and
Trying to take that away but at the end of the day uh when I was at the five or at the four that rotation and coming across blocking somebody’s shot like I live for that um where my guards know that they can play up and you know that
I’m gonna be there like every if we do it 10 times 10 times I’m rotating and I’m there and I think that is the selflessness of Defense it’s really um part of it is pride because you have to take it upon yourself that I’m coming with this effort every single time it
Doesn’t matter what the results are I’m coming back like you’re gonna know when you played me you was in a battle whether you won or lost I I won a whole lot but the battle is like like damn I just you might Circle me on your calendar because you’re playing against
Me but you also are like damn you better be thinking about that shot you trying to get off you know what I mean and I feel like the consistency of that is just what I love like I feel like the pressure is on the person with the ball
Right like when we talk offense like I felt like my offense was amazing but my defense is like I don’t have the pressure of the ball you have the ball you gotta try to figure out how to get in this basket and as as far as I’m
There like I’m Really Gonna Be reliable and I think that’s the relationship right absolutely it’s funny because I was flying back uh with Steph last night I mean yesterday uh we were coming back from Mexico for practice and there was a few other people on the plane and we
Were talking about the growth of Jonathan kaminga and I was telling Steph actually I was like man he’s our number we were just sitting there talking to him like he’s a number two option now and that comes with a totally different thing and I said to those guys and they
Start laughing I never yearned for that like I never yearned to be the guy in the NBA that has to go score every night that has to do I think that comes with a totally different mindset but also a totally different pressure like when it’s when when you’re when whether you
Have a good game is based based on if I make a shot or if I miss a shot like that’s a totally different pressure and so I agree with you 100% as far as who that pressure falls on um and just going back uh born in Compton California uh
Talk to me about growing up in Compton I’ve been told that there are people in Compton that’s actually never been to Los Angeles talk to me about growing up in well I think first off let me just say when you are a kid born in the inner
City we know nothing we all we know is our surroundings we don’t understand what we don’t know we don’t understand what we have and what we don’t have so I feel like being in compon I thought we had it great like we had our own house
You know we had our own house like we lived in a house my mom was a single she’s a single mom I have two I had well I have three sisters but at that time it was just my older sister and I and we both had our own room like I’m like bro
We got our own room we live in a three-bedroom house now did I understand square foot and how big it was probably not but that’s saying a lot so I felt like in the situation I was in I felt very blessed like my mom was a very hard
Worker and that is probably what I saw most like my mom would at that time first when I was young she would carry mail so she was a mail carrier she’d get up at 5:30 she would get dressed in her uniform and then she would leave me who
Was um I probably was Kindergarten my older sister is five years older than me so she would go to elementary school on her own and I stayed in the house like jond I was like four years old in the house with the key around my neck I was
A latchy kid and my mom would turn on the TV she leave me like food out and she was like when this show comes on and she had to take one day off to show me when this show comes on then you turn the TV off you go out you lock the door
Knocked on the neighbor’s door across the street and then you walk to school at 11:00 11:00 because school started at 11:30 for a kid who went half day that that was it so it was kind of like I’ve been having I’ve had to be responsible like from day one that’s all
I know it’s like so it’s discipline it’s it’s Focus it’s like don’t turn the channel now imagine if I was not a good listener and I turn the channel bro I probably would have never made it to school because I wouldn’t have known what channel so I never changed the
Channel I had to wait for the show you know turned the TV off lock the door and I feel like just from day one in Compton it was just kind of this it was survival you know what I mean and sometimes I feel like just those survival skills and yes
It was a kid and it was the streets but it’s still an opportunity to survive live figure out what we’re gonna eat then my mom became a truck driver which then with my Mom leaving there’s three girls now so my older sister I’m the middle now and I have a younger sister
We got to figure it out like what are we eating um we did have an opair or a housekeeper someone was there but it wasn’t that great you know it wasn’t my mom so who’s gonna look out for us us and so I just think by me being sort of
That child that was just focused early on trying to figure out how to survive I had a mindset of like I’m competitive I can do this I can I can figure it out you know what I mean like I’m gonna survive so I think Compton taught me
Survival skills I can be anywhere we might go to the hood we can play ball in the hood we can go stop by some people who don’t have and I can go to your house and eat and help cook and clean up or we can head out to Cabo you know I
Mean we can go we can go to Paris we can go to the best of the best but either way for me Toton just taught me that you know you love people I love people I meet people where they are I have very low expectations you know so I don’t I
Don’t I don’t disappoint myself with how people show up but I try to show up and just be a consistent person that I just love people and meet where they are and everybody’s not the same we’re not all the same we have different backgrounds so therefore our personalities are
Different How We Vibe but I find myself that I can adapt in any situation and that’s really I think what Compton taught me with with your mom having to leave for work um all those years early and then becoming a truck driver where that takes you on the road did at any point
That build some type of resentment um within you uh knowing that like you said there was an old pair but it’s not quite my mom like my mom isn’t there and I asked that question because that’s always one of my biggest fears obviously you know how we travel when we’re on the
Uh you know when we’re doing this job and how much time you miss and that’s always one of my biggest fears so I just wanted to ask you that no I I didn’t in hisory where my mom was really smart she sat my sisters and I down and she said
Girls I need you guys have give me five years to give us a better life and I think being eight years old taking care of a I was taking care of my younger sister I kind of didn’t know what that meant you know but I understood that my
Mom was trying to say I got to do what I got to do in order for us to be able to survive in order for us to be able to pay these bills which means I need for you girls to step up and help me and
Help each other and so it was pretty much that conversation I I never really forget because I knew that my mom was trying to ask us to be a a village to be a support group to one another and from that moment on I just stepped into a a different role which
Was a motherhood I ended up raising my younger sister who’s eight years younger than me I ended I mean from that day on I mean from changing diapers to walking her to school first and and then me going to school and then picking her up
From school just every game I had I had to leave school go get my sister she was in the stands while I was playing and I’d be like it’ be a timeout and I’m like sit down you know I’m like you know just mothering her she was always on the
Bus when our team went to away games like I really had a child um you know from from eight years on eight years old up until I actually centered a college wow you know so I think that level of responsibility again it’s it’s hard work it’s discipline
It’s when I got to go play basketball that was like my relief you know from from real life of being a mom really at 12 13 14 15 I’m taking care of a kid you know that that type of mindset for me basketball was the outlet for me to just
Like bro I get to go play like what we doing out here you know like let’s let’s go and so I really focused on basketball and put like my heart I was like married to ball I always say I was married to basketball because that was just my
Outlet from like real life you know ups and downs like we we have we got $3 I gotta feed my sister you know like I’m I’m gonna get her some french fries and you know the fish market was up the street the corner like we got french
Fries and she got some ketchup and I just sit there into a piece of fish and watch her eat and if she didn’t you know she got full there was something left I would eat the Rex you know so it was like sacrific in a way that I was just
Always a really prayerful kid that’s what I could just tell you that really saved me is just I was just always praying like Lord just I just know that you got something something more than than this situation where we are and if my working hard can help get us to
Anything better then that’s what I’m gonna do I’m the I’m the one I’m the chosen one who’s gonna work double time in my older my younger sister which is kind of funny because she’ always say you seem like you were just so serious and I’m like girl you have no idea the
Amount of pressure I’m under trying to figure out what you’re gonna eat you know what I mean or when you got to go to bed or giving you a bath like I was really being a mom you know at 14 is is it’s really crazy but all worth the
Sacrifice absolutely you I I read and we’ve actually spoke about this before but where you said um when you retire from basketball that you were retiring because being a mom a wife um um a basketball player it was all just too much and when I look back on that cuz I
I actually had those days sometimes where I sit and you know I have a wife and we like the road that she plays is incredible but I always try to be conscious and aware of that I’m not ages depending on her to raise the kids by
Herself or be depending on we got a nanny I don’t have to do this I always try to throw myself into that fire and and throwing myself into that fire there’s days where I’m like it’s too much like all of these things come together it’s it’s it’s way too much um
What when when you ultimately made that decision because I as someone who’s kind of building another career for after basketball while playing basketball not playing basketball is scary as hell and to make that decision when you didn’t have to make that decision ision but solely based on I want to be great at
These things also and this isn’t allowing me to do that what was it like transitioning to the other side of saying you know what I am wrapping it up I am done and I’m moving on like did you face that fear of what was on the other
Side of basketball like a lot of us do absolutely I think well here’s two things I I think being in women’s basketball before the launch of the WNBA had already programmed most of us but again I can only speak for myself the idea that basketball is not going to
Last forever and so I had always had these other um goals broadcasting you know was one I ended my undergrad degrees in communication because I wanted to do broadcasting um modeling was something that I always wanted to do so I had a chance after the Olympics to
Sign a contract with Willamina moved to New York and I was like oh yeah I’ll just be you know I’ll just model and then um then public speaking was something that I had always done because I felt like that was like my spiritual gift my ability to go out and speak and
Hopefully Inspire right so I think I always had these other things that I was prepared to do and preparing to do whereas I always looked at you know in men’s basketball I feel like you guys have the freedom to just like focus on ball like day in day out that’s what
You’re going to do because the compensation level can you can you can retire and you can you don’t have to work obviously it’s hard to just stop and not do anything and not have that fire fulfilled so I think that’s important to do something else like this broadcasting
Having this show all the many things that you’ll do in you know when you do retire it’s important but you didn’t have to necessarily think about those things until like now you know what I mean because you know like hey how many more years are you gonna play I don’t
Know but I’m saying you know that you’re closer to that for us as women we are like always like just in case this don’t work out this is what I’m going to do and you got to think I’m from the era now where the WNBA did not exist so most
Of the women went overseas every year I went overseas I played in Italy for um a season and then when I came back I was working for ESPN I was doing the women’s tournament I was just working working working working working um then I like I
Said I was modeling so I had already created the idea that I had other careers and Outlets so I just feel like basketball from for me was that one tool that was going to give me the freedom but also the opportunity to reach these other goals that I have and I think it’s
Important for for all athletes to to think about those things and now that we have so much more access right the social media brings us together with the world with our ideas as entrepreneurs times have changed but I always had that entrepreneur Spirit from
The time I was at USC because I’m like I don’t even know that I’m G to play basketball like I really thought I was done with basketball after the Olympics like I was I thought you play one Olympics I’m retiring you know then I’m gonna go do I mean I really thought I
Was retired so then they said they’re gonna start the WNBA and I’m like oh okay that’s like a summer league okay that’s cool I’ll just I can come back to the LA and play in the summer I thought we were gonna wear like reversible jerseys play at like Long Beach State or
Something like I didn’t understand the impact of what the WBA was going to be so I love it for these young girls now young women it’s amazing like I I’m so in love with you know Angel Reese and Caitlyn Clark and and just all of these women who are having the opportunity to
Have a platform that’s being watched to have the nil deals like I just I’m so happy for them because we always have had the personalities you know whether it’s you know obviously our looks were different we didn’t really have you know all the lashes and everything because we
Didn’t have access to those things but I just love where the game has gone and the opportunities that these young women are getting I I love that now that’s interesting um to hear kind of your first experience with the WNBA because I remember my first experience with the
WNBA came um man I was six or seven years old and my aunt who was playing overseas as well my aunt andette babers um she was playing overseas and she came back and and she tried out for the Detroit shot and this was when the WNBA was first kicking off and I’ll never
Forget she was the very last cut uh for the Detroit shock and I remember standing outside in the middle of the street all of us waiting to kind of get the news we knew the day was the day that we find out if she made the shock
Or not and like I said she ended up being the last cut and did not make it uh just to see where it’s grown to since then um I think it’s very interesting but something you just said uh brings me to my next question which is you said
All right it’s a summer league and I actually had this written down um to speak with you about but you said women always go overseas and we all know they go overseas make a ton more money than you make in the WNBA and I think in order for women not to
Have to go overseas ultimately you’re going to have to extend the season you know you have a 3mon season and because you know you got to be able to pay the bill bills what is your take on the WNBA extending the season but then how it also competes with either the NBA being
On the same schedule as the NBA or the NFL uh kind of what’s your take on that and can the WNBA move into that or do you think it it’ll be tough for her to compete with those other leagues yeah I think Draymond it’s a great question because I think it’s
Something that the W’s really tried to to think about it like where’s our space and remember uh they’ve actually moved it up because we used to start June 15th so now I think we’re kind of and I’m not saying we but they play I think they start May it’s definitely we it’s
Definitely we Pioneer in that it’s always I know it’s like you’re always a part of it everywhere I go I’m still a WNBA player so I’m like H okay but it definitely started like they moved it up you know to start in may but what happens is is there’s players and
Foreign players that also still come and play in our league that they’re not quite done yet so it’s always going to pose that problem because some of the you know the team’s rosters at one time was down to 11 sometimes they had 13 then it was back down to 11 so when you
Have 11 but you’re holding a spot for three or four players that are still overseas even if it’s not Americans it could be foreign players that you’ve drafted you’re kind of you’re you’re you’re kind of in a a tough there so that’s the first part and then how long
The season can go um there’s always going to be that tough competition whether it’s the NFL getting started um television time is really important um but I I think I don’t know that I have the answers but I do think that that may be something they could consider is to
Continue to try to stretch it out on both ends start a little bit earlier if you can get those players back from overseas and then maybe trying to extend it a little bit but it comes down to as we know money TV time those spots you start getting up against you know
Baseball World Series and then at the beginning of the N NFL which is tough you know we watch preseason football I think those are the areas that really again depending on where people get their their game from but I believe it was this wasn’t that you and I actually
Talking about with LeBron like the finals fell on on big sports day yeah it the finals it like a Sunday yeah it was like game it was the NFL Sunday and the finals were being played at 1 pm. on an NFL Sunday yeah it was something that was
Like see bro that’s not like that’s not good competition we don’t want to do those things so I’m sure that people that are you know really focused on the business um are probably trying to figure out ways to to make that work even if it’s like a Friday final you
Know but there should be ways that they can continue to extend it and hopefully continue to increase Revenue but I think overall the WNBA and the Players Association have worked so close closely together and they’re building they’re building and they’re getting better and they’re further along than where we were
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The NBA and here’s why I think so you start to talk about the the big networks you know the the TNTs Turner Sports um ESPN ESPN you the big deals you know the big TV deals that the NBA has and the reason I say it’ll be interesting with
This next TV deal because all of a sudden uh wrestling for instance the uh WWE just signed A1 billion deal or8 billion do deal or something of that nature with Netflix and so now you’ll start to get Netflix who’s streaming uh we know Hulu you got all these streaming
Platforms that I think can also create another Avenue to extend the season right so like maybe it’s not just built on TV time right like if it’s if it’s just built on TV time with ESPN TNT obviously things get a little tougher but if you can now get some of these
Streaming platforms and make that a part of the deal which I personally think um that that’s going to happen with the NBA deal like I think you’ll probably see some different packages or whatnot and like maybe Netflix has something maybe Apple TV has some of it but I
Think that will be possibly an Avenue depending on what happens with the NBA deal that the WNBA can explore because the problem that you run into with a lot of these these streaming platforms is are do they have the capabilities of having a million people watching this
Live event at the same time and I think that’s starting to be created with WWE and then NBA so I think that may be a route and you know what I think you’re right in terms of the change it’s going to come with streaming I just think the
Biggest key is knowing where to find the W consistently there was a time where we had I believe if I could say the negative that I’d say is that we’ve over promoted the WNBA in a way that people don’t know like it’s not consistent on where to find it it’s it’s not
Consistent like we used to we had and I don’t even remember if it was like um lifetime or something but it was like catch the WBA every Tuesday and Thursday on Lifetime let’s just say that’s what the advert whatever it was it was very consistent so people knew oh we got to
Get lifetime we gotta catch them the thing that I think we’ve over promoted like we used to say we got next that was that was huge we should have say what we got next for 25 years because we come after the NBA that’s catchy I couldn’t tell you what the wba’s catchphrase is
Now I I don’t know what it is and so I feel like the importance of being consistent consistency is really important because NBA I love this game we heard for 50 years we understood that that’s a part of it I think the consistency is important of where you
Can find the WBA I believe that the followers of the WNBA and through social media people will find them if it was consistent not just I got to search it up and say oh today they on Hulu oh but now I got to have apple plus and then I
Also over here Gotta Have Hulu that’s a lot and especially on some of our devices where you may have a subscription to one but you may not have a subscription to all three so I think finding the consistency in that is just as important as having that opportunity
To have the WNBA streaming live somewhere wherever that is I definitely agree uh because consistent is everything I know on Tuesday nights the NBA is on TNT right Thursday nights I know it’s on TNT like and so you start to get that Cadence you just know where to go for the games yeah
Yeah and that’s what we need we we kind of and again that’s maybe not to the fault of the WBA but maybe it’s just working with networks and trying to fit in where they can again I’m not trying to be like the powers of be you know I’m
Not running for president people because I always get you should be the president you should be I’m not trying to do any of those things but I’m just for suggestions it’s important for marketing for us to find something that we really are passionate about and then stay with
It it’s okay to repeat the same marketing for a few years so that people can get the habits of it you know we just change so quick every year somebody’s got a new marketing job for the WBA it’s like um last year what we don’t have that consistency so I think
That’s something I would suggest for them absolutely uh you coached the big three1 a championship um we we just saw Becky Hammond Le a few years ago lead the San Antonio Spurs go coach uh the Las Vegas Aces and she’s been dominating last two years winning a
Championship in both years if I’m not mistaken um coaching in the WNBA never never never quite wanted to do that never a thing for you um kind of well I first all I never say never about jobs you know I love to work that’s not a problem
I think the the hard part was that um I’m still so I was still so familiar with all the players there and I think you need a break of like you know I could come in and maybe the new generation have that opportunity but I
Feel like you know I can’t go back to the Sparks and Coach Candace who was my teammate you know what I mean like that’s my girl but it’s like she would just we’re too close for it to really be I think a coach player relationship so I
Think over time it would be better to coach team players like like now I think we’re kind of finally at the you know Candace may be finishing up in a year or two you know NECA like all the girls at chan people that I’m like really close
With and have relationships with I think it would be better when you have groups that you don’t have those types of relationship with so you can just have a clean slate um but I I’ve never really been approached about coaching um a WNBA team to be really honest with you not
That I’ve even thought of it thought about it or applied for it um but um I I really enjoy coaching the men I I I have a good time and I don’t know that it’s just because they’re men but I enjoy coaching in the big three I guess I
Should say um the hard Parts about coaching though coaching is coaching is a lot man yes it is it’s a lot I mean you you take it home I mean I can’t stand losing and I don’t like when you’re at a professional level and you
Need to be motivated to do your job like that’s probably the biggest part that I didn’t really understand and I think when I looked at my teammates I kind of was like as a leader like y’all let’s go like we’re gonna run the lines like don’t cut the lines you know what I’m
Saying touch the line like I’ve always been that kind of player like don’t cut Corners because if you cut Corners now we’re not going to deserve to win in the end you know what I’m saying like whether we on the track we’re on the waight room don’t be a player who’s late
Like be 15 minutes early like I’m just that kind of person where the efficiency of how we train affects everything to me so I’m like we it’s already hard let’s not add to it let’s not cut corners and then expect the best you know and so being
That you know you know you’re a champion it’s just it’s just the it’s the nature of it and so I have a really hard time trying to motivate people to do something that you should be passionate about you should love you should be think seeing that is an honor to be able
To play this sport because you could get hurt at any time and not be able to play so to me it’s like respect a game and I have a hard time with like babysitting people and just trying to I don’t know I I’m just I’m not built
Like that so it’s that’s the difficult part for me you know I think it’s one thing when you talk about like high school kids everybody you know some people sign up you got to pick the best people you have at the school every kid’s not that like that’s not their
Dream but they may be athletic enough to make a team okay but you’re talking about top tier you’re talking about a professional bro I don’t have time for all the excuses I don’t have time for all the like I was out last night like don’t
Don’t waste my time you know Kobe and I used to talk about that which is so funny because I always think about our conversations about just being ready and how you show up you know and the fact that you have to tell your teammates
Like we got a big we got a game tomorrow so you might not want to go out tonight like I should shouldn’t have to explain those things to you because my hard work is a part of what we’re trying to build here and I need everybody we need
Everybody to win you know that’s the that’s the hard part so coaching for me I’m like I cannot motivate you to want to win like that’s all that I know like I’m so bad like it’s space I’m this way with everything though Space Bag at whatever we playing
Bro dominoes like you don’t want to see me in nothing Tonk whatever it is like I am playing to win don’t sit down at the table with me if you trying like what are we doing I don’t like people who just want to play for fun that’s don’t
Come to my table I I agree with that just just so you know you never want to see me in dominoes so you should never sit at that table man come on I’m I’m slapping bones up what TW TW is 20 oh I would love this opportunity
We’ll make sure we make that happen yeah okay don’t forget you owe me tickets too no wait no not for for when you guys come to Miami with next month next next month I got you my husband and my son to do the game no problem no problem at all that’s
Um so I always say the same thing about coaching people say to me like oh I you should coach well before number one I think is absolutely insane that you’ve never beeno approached about coaching w NBA team those things to me doesn’t make sense like you know
I I have a I have a strong appreciation for the WNBA because of the talent like I think uh the women in the WNBA are extremely talented um what I love the most is how fundamentally sound the WNBA is I watch college basketball some NBA basketball and it baffles me that guys
Do not have basic fundamentals and you just don’t have have that problem in the WNBA at least we can’t see it you know like I’m sure if you’re in the practice you’re like man this this girl got no fundamentals but for for the most part like fundamentally sound yeah um but I
Think and and me and you have actually spoke about this a little bit before I think some things that the WNBA do they shoot themselves in the foot this being one of them like why have you not been approached the Pioneer that you are in
The WNBA I think you’re you I mean I don’t think you are the first real star of the WNBA and yet your first real star you never go back and say hey like do you want to come back and Coach like so we can have you so close to this league
Because of what you know you’ve seen it from the very beginning you know all of these things we can have you so close to this league it’s things like that that when it comes to the WNBA I don’t understand those things like you’re not helping yourself in all the ways that
You can help yourself that to me is baffing well I’m gonna be really honest with you because I don’t think i’ ever really articulated this publicly but I do believe that we get it wrong when it comes to the veterans of the WNBA um all of us not just me you know swoops
Cooper um you know we can make a whole list because there’s obviously a laundry list of us but um we don’t get it right and for whatever reason and I don’t know if it’s a women’s thing I’m not sure but we get pushed out because they’re like
Well if you’re here taking up the spotlight people can’t see the next one’s coming however I’m like well the NBA have like 75 100 like great players that come and support and it’s like a um it’s a fraternity right absolutely and absolutely we we don’t create a sorority
And I’ll tell you that from the Sparks that behind the scenes conversations the WNBA I have tried trust me so it’s not like it’s not like I haven’t tried it’s not like I haven’t reached out it’s not like even when I was in LA I’m like
There’s anything that I can do I wasn’t even trying to be paid to to help but it was just one of those things where I was like you know what this is my last time I’m gonna like really put myself out there to try to help and then I’m done
And that’s when I was like I’m done I’ll go coach I can coach in big three but I wasn’t even trying to do it like it wasn’t even like a money thing really just trying to help and lend my services like you’re saying like to think about
Growing the game to be able to give back I saw that the attendance was dropping off you know things like that and so it’s not that I didn’t think of it or try but I’m sure um a lot of the women who are veterans of the league feel that
Way and we could do a much better job as a whole of finding ways to support veteran women players bringing them back and I kid you know I’ll tell you one story I went to go watch a practice and I was like oh and you can
Let them know if they want me to talk to the players right I will go after the practice and I’ll talk to the players if if they want Draymond when I tell you I mean I was like oh okay I mean I don’t know I’m just saying of service
I’m not saying to be there to like oh you know I’m Le like this is what I did like that’s not even my personality but if there’s some words that I can give you to motivate you to like come out work hard like man the paint like you
Guys need to crash the boards whatever it is like whatever was in that moment I would have giving it to that team just because I’m a spark for life like I’m not just visiting y’all like I really care about what happens with the purple and gold and they were like no that’s
Okay no he or she didn’t want you to say anything I’m like not a problem and I leave it at that like that’s it so I just say that to you not to be like a hater on the outside but I but to confirm with you we need to do a better
Job as not just a league but also individual teams of how they support their veterans and bringing them back to be a part of it and I’ll tell you two programs that do an excellent job of it da Staley does an excellent job with South Carolina and and connecting her
Players to her other players and just creating a community that supports one another and Gina Ora does a very good job at Yukon that you see their returning players coming back 30 40 players that is how you build that type of chemistry it’s a culture and I tried
To even I’m glad that we’re starting to see that back with USC because we had those problems before in the past we have a new coach and gu guu is doing so amazing I’m so proud of her and you’re starting to see other Trojans come back and support and that’s what it’s about
Like if we’re not building community and we’re not pouring into one another like what are what are we really doing I I don’t I don’t know so it’s bigger than basketball to me but we haven’t completely figured that out and I hope that we can do a better job of that in
The future because I love our Sparks I love our Sparks fans like every time I’m there the people are so amazing the the ushers like I hug and so you know I just see people that you really care about and it’s just unfortunate that I didn’t have that opportunity to do that because
I would have absolutely now 100% And by the way and saying that and that’s why it’s no surprise that Don is having the success that she’s having year after year at South Carolina and that Gino is having the success that he’s had over the 30 years or whatever it’s been that
He’s been at Yukon I think yeah that was one of the reasons I actually went to Michigan state is because Tom ISO creates a Brotherhood he creates a family and I’m like oh I can to be a part of this family like I was It was
Kind of down to them in Michigan and I didn’t feel like Michigan basketball I was a family but when you look back at it they weren’t you see how they did Chris Weber you know you see how they kind of outcast the 5 five like yeah they had their issues whatever but what
They did for that program to not honor them I mean we’re it’s 2024 two 2023 and it takes Jim Harbaugh to bring Chris Weber back like right that doesn’t make sense to me you know and so uh it’s no surprise that those teams have that type of uh essentially the pedigree that they
Have in the history because they’re doing it that way uh but speak to me ju guu Watkins uh I had the opportunity to actually work out with ju guu or she came to my workout um maybe when she was like in the 10th grade oh really and and
Like you could see the skill was there um shoot the lights off the ball I work out I still work out um my who trains me his name is Travis won he was my senior leader when I was a freshman at Michigan State he’s trained me my entire career
We still go hard like we in college like it’s not your typical NBA Workout you go shoot some spots and go to the next like we go and she came to our workout and uh the first day like you could tell her skill was there and like all the things
She was struggling to get through the workout of bit and and like you know I’m pushing her like hey come on je you got it come on like pushing her through the workout pushing she came back the next day and when she came back the next day it
Said a lot to me because it’s like oh she wants to get better like she enjoyed being pushed you know a lot of people I’ve seen people come to my workouts I’ve had NBA players come to my workouts throw up um not come back you know I’ve
Had I’ve seen all different types and she came back back the next day and I was like that that young lady has a future in this game she has the skill um you know she has the demeanor she carries herself like she knows she’s nice she came back to this workout again
The next day um now every day you know every night you look up Juju has a game is she breaks This Record She breaking that record she’s break she’s I think she broke her M already like which number one says so much about you that you know here we are 30 years later
Since since you left USC and she’s just now breaking those records uh but just talk to me about gu guu and what she’s doing for uh the program for USC as a whole for women’s basketball um and just moving things forward yeah yeah I’m I’m
So proud of her I think the the thing is is that when I heard about Juju which was her High when she was in high school um and then some of the coaches that were recruiting her that she was a top recruit and um I was like so what what
You know what do you think is Juju for real they were like yeah Ju Juju for real but they weren’t sure if she would be able to keep this level of consistency right at in in college you know but you know how because everybody this is to talk about like Caitlyn like
What’s go everybody looks at the next level okay okay she’s balling here but what is she gonna do at the next level and it’s like when you have that freshman year when you come out I had the same thing happen after I scored 101 points in high school I went to to to
USC which was like in 11th 10th 11th Place in the pack 10 back then but I was like I want to do something different I didn’t want to just go to Tennessee where everybody was winning championships I wanted to start something new and I feel like Juju had
That same mindset of like I want to bring it back here to La um SE was okay she made SC like you take it back up to the top and I feel like that is a big deal in itself when you talk about that challenge when you take on the challenge
To turn around a program that’s what Juju Watkins is basically doing for La like putting SC back on the map and we’ve had some great players out of SC like for for real so you know I love that her handle is like Juju be balling if you want to hit her on Instagram
Because every time I’m like Juju be balling like she really is a baller and it’s like she’s so la which is also a lot of people go to La but a lot of people are not from LA but those of us is like from La it’s a certain kind of
Dog in us it’s just like she really from La like you know like Tina Thompson is really from la cyia Cooper is like really from La like we are it’s something about like our motor in the way we think like you’re just not going to outwork us and outplay us we may lose
Some stuff but you g to know you was in a battle and I see that in Juju like she’s just when she needs to put the team on her back the team is on her back but watching her play like she’s not selfish with it you know she’s not like
Over dribbling and keeping it like she’s very unselfish she’s a great passer rebounder but her ability to shoot the ball is just it’s next level and I feel like that is like the effect of what your teammates Curry has done for the game has just been it was almost one of
Those things when I played in the post and I’m like if I didn’t have an outlet I’m GNA take the ball up like I can bring the ball up I can push it up I’m a five but I can play Four i s used to tell my teamat I only play this position
Because y’all need me to play this position I can play any position right so that’s how I used to think but I feel like the coach would be like make the outlet pass and get on the Block like you know coaches used to coach us in a
Way like you had a certain spot to be in or position but now we’re moving to more of a European St where it’s position right your four can pull it up the four can bring it up and actually run the play call the play get you into your
Motion the same thing that you do they doing the women’s game where it was very seldom was I allowed to do that I did it at SC some but as a pro very seldom did I do that like call a play it was like
Pass it and get you know get down to the block or get to your spot I love that step has changed the game where people never really thought that you were even in shooting range when you crossed the half court like absolutely we had a few players I can name Ruthie Bolton which
People probably wouldn’t even remember could shoot shoot Ruthie across half court and be in that range like Seth but she didn’t get the publicity and didn’t have this stage like we have but Ruthie could shoot long range consistently where we were like Ruthie we used to laugh like where is your range she’s
Like hey as long as I can see the basket I’m in range you know she would say that but I’m like now we see these players that he’s open the game in a way that you are not out of your range shooting I don’t even what is the feet
40 4 feet like 45 like yeah bro they are so far out and I love that Juju has that long range shot just to get back to what you’re saying she has that long range shot she’s in her range wherever she is get into the basket the pull up like
They are true students of the game and we can see that in their game like the way that they play you can tell that they’ve studied the game and that’s what I love I’m passionate about people who are like bro if I was in this era I
Would be even better than what I was in my era because I can see the game differently now you know I limited myself three-point line came out I was like oh okay come to the three-point line work on my three-point shooter I was never thinking cross half court
Shoot one from there never yes you know absolutely but bro you if I was in this era you best believe my shot would be ready from half court I I just love the game I love the fact that it keeps evolving and getting better so you can
Tell I get so excited but I’m amazed at Juju and what she’s been able to do and the talents continue to get better so fight on I got my Burgery on I love it I love it um and JuJu has to stay in college for at least three years um kind
Of what what’s your take on that uh like what obviously the goal for all of us is to get to the NBA is to get to the WNBA uh but she has to stay there for two more years once this season concludes what’s your take on uh the age requirement in
The WNBA as far I I I think if Juju could leave this year she’d definitely be the number one or number two pick you know and so like kind of how do you view that as far as the women’s game go that’s good that’s good um I I don’t
Think we originally had seen a player or players now that really could make that jump and here’s why I say that we played both college ball but we also played on the USA team and playing on the USA team brought like myself I was 16 a high schooler versus college
Women and I held my own but was I ready to be an Olympian no um I was good but I was a 10th grader you know with college players now you cut two and you say well she’s a freshman in college I think the biggest test first would be the USA team
Because how she would manage with those Pros would then tell you if she could truly play in the WNBA I I think it’s I think we’re getting to that point now I don’t think that guju could get out there and and not be effective but also
It’s kind of that same thing the body the the the um the physicality of it it changes a lot um defense you know you may be strong offensively but how’s your defense because you got you know you got some Ballers to guard in the WBA also
Absolutely so a lot of times the rookie year for guards is actually harder than it is for the PO I find that all of the guards if we like went back in time and you looked at like number one pick guards their first years in the W it’s not like Allstar years
They they really struggle because you being deed up in a way like I got you and I don’t need to go help nobody else you know what I mean whereas College college is sort of that system you know you got that rotation sometimes coaches just like stay on her like she not
Getting off today that’s that’s the decision of the coach which means I’m on you how you going to get the buckets that you’re used to getting when I’m staying with you and we have Defenders like that and coaches that make those types of decisions so I think that for
The guards they struggle a little bit but could guju go into the WNBA and just be like solid I think so I I really do I think she could should they change the rules I don’t know about that but I think she I think she’d have success absolutely no I agree I think
You know and and like there’s levels to the success right like you come in the likelihood of anyone coming from college and being a superstar right away it happens it happens it happens facts CP you at CP she’s true but like Aaliyah Boston’s probably gonna be along the
Lines of Candace Parker one of the alltime grace too so you know the people always would talk about when you know when they had the high school rule when you could come out of high school in the NBA for every Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett there there was also um uh
Melvin elely or uh I’m I’m G but butchered his name but EB ENB or his name was something that like you also have some of those guys as well more of those guys y than you necessarily do the Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett who’s actually able to figure it out and to
Your point their rookie year though is not Stellar exactly you know and so that’s my point too is that you can come out but that rookie year sometimes it’s it’s a lot one they’re coming out of their college season so you’re kind of fatigued because we’re start like you
Said early May if you went to a championship you just finished April 8th 7th somewhere around there now you got to come into a training camp and you gotta play a full season a lot of times you have that dip happens there the other thing is just the overall sheer heart of these
Veterans that have that defensive mindset to like oh you’re not about to come in here and bust me up you know what I mean that’s how we used to be like oh it’s a it’s a rookie not on my watch like not today you know I mean you
Might you might have a good game somewhere else but you’re not about to have it so I don’t know how many dogs we have like that in the W Bay I don’t know about the defense but I know when we play like if I told swoops if you saw
Any guard that was coming in like our USA team I could speak to probably more but I’m like swoops was like swoops the defense there Nicki McCrae the defense like you’re not gonna see the the light of day because we had certain people that was just defense on guards you’re not gonna have
A chance Ruthie Bolton like you’re not gonna have a chance to get what you’ve ever gotten in college you know we had that post same thing with me it’s like no today sis I’m about to take a whole it’s a full Clinic you know my footwork left right underneath spin move it
Doesn’t matter fade away like you you can’t stop all of this so I feel like it depends on how the players in the WNBA take on that grit and that idea that you are a rookie coming in here and today you’re not gonna have the kind of game
That you’re used to that’s GNA be the biggest decision on how and if I think Caitlyn Clark will have major success in the WNBA I I I think she will because her range is one of those things just like step you can get on him but the
Fact that his range is Limitless not everybody can play defense starting at half court and really maintain the movement that they have and still guard them in their range and their the six seconds that it takes for them to get the shot off like it’s not even six
Seconds what is it a six like Point yeah like six1 of a second of a second or something they said like absolutely you know so I don’t know I love it though I I’m a fan of all of this I can’t wait to see it unfold and uh yeah so it’s
Unfortunate Juju has to stay probably three more years though great great great for the Trojans yes SPID um you you just mentioned her uh Candace Parker won MVP her rookie year uh which was your second to last year in the league um seeing a young player come in
And dominate uh on your team on the team with you like that what was your take on her and like having an opportunity to play with her Mentor her um initially coming in like what was that opportunity like for you you know what it was so interesting because Candace and I have
Always gotten along from day one and people always thought we would not get along um or implied that we wouldn’t get along or all these things and I was very um I was happy I was you know I’m motherly so I was just trying to I think that small
Things that I would try to help Candace with was just her like weights I’m like Candace and sweetheart you gota we gota like we live weights every day I live weights before pretty much every day and after games because your body it’s like our season is too short it’s a game you know
It’s a game every other day you have to stay in the weight room um and then her food you know I used to make her oatmeal and make her stuff and like she lived I don’t know if we lived in the same building for a little while yeah we did
So I would like make her oatmeal and just trying to you know be a mentor I think more than anything else of just to be a pro is different from college because everything is not given to you it’s like you have to start to make choices so I think the biggest impact
That I had on Candace and I guess you probably have to ask her but just trying to be more of a mentor of like this process as a rookie um you got to learn to respect everybody you know and she’s fun cenace is hilarious though because she’s like
Who’s that other girl I’m like that’s one of our teammates and she’s like I don’t understand why she trying to tell me what to do like she don’t even play and I’m like Candace no baby no you can’t it doesn’t work like that it’s like she’s watching us play so she has
Valuable information that can be helpful to us you know so it’s like be open to everybody you can learn from anybody and she’s an amazing veteran and a person that I trust like you could you could like when I get subbed out I would go sit you know and I’m asking different
Teammates what what y’all see like what could I do you know they like Le you fading on your jumper or um you laate on your rotation or what anything I can learn from anybody here and so I think it’s so important to that camaraderie is
Just not about the five who get to play or the starters it’s about everybody clearly she’s an amazing leader she’s grown so much she became so much like healthier with her eating in the weight room staying strong and we always laugh about now she was like girl I was
A mess I was like I just couldn’t believe her mindset of like her the teammates but I I get it that you see them here and they don’t play a lot you don’t recognize that to respect their voice and that is still important and so those are probably our early you
Know our few years I feel like I wish we had more time together but I had already had my daughter and I was just the pool of of motherhood was just bigger than um me really trying to stay and figure out how we could just like win championships together I had to
Go but I loved it I loved it and I love Candace absolutely um before we get out of here a couple more questions can you name the five other players uh to win the W obviously there’s six you’re one of them um the five other players that won the
WNBA MVP and the finals MVP in the same season in the same season in the same season okay so definitely swoops and I me you for for sure final finals MVP and regular season MVP oh and regular season did did Asia Wilson win it once
Yep you got I’m lying Asia is not a part of the list that is why so what’s the question MVP in the regular season and the finals and MVP in the finals same season mayore six nope there’s six you’re one of the six there’s five others wait there’s not that okay Lauren
Jackson Lauren Jackson is one gez MVP of the season and the finals I don’t think Cynthia Cooper did that either Cynthia Cooper did she did who Okay Cyn I think Cynthia Cooper did that’s three I need three more you said not mayore uh syvia FS syvia files is
Four how many more I need two two more oh Brianna Stewart she Brianna Stewart syvia fils I’m missing one okay MVC of the regular season and the oh no dang okay I need a hint wait who’s left hold Yukon as well another Yukon husky oh Dana no D
Absolutely I thought so she won MVP of the regular season and the finals yeah I don’t know how I left d d I should have started with Diana my goodness what am I doing it’s hard to like gather all the names of the players I love the the
Baller this is an interesting list because Lauren Jackson surprised me until I took a step back and was like how thought about how nice she was like how she surp she surprised me clearly that’s who I B with the most so Lauren Lauren is you know who surprised me wait
You said said Cynthia Cooper won regular season MVP okay that’s not a surprise Sylvia foul so Sylvia FS surprised me because it could have been Simone Augustus I mean Maya Mo that’s that’s what threw me off yeah my Mo did not no I thought just for Lauren Jackson like she’s not she’s not
Really spoke about in the same Lane as with with with all of you greats and you know I actually think she was she’s incredible but that’s why it was a surprise to me because you never hear her name come up anymore yeah she should
Be though she was she was a fourth to re with like she was nice absolutely I should say she was a a great player where where where where do you rank yourself uh as far as the alltime WNBA great go you know I never really think about those types of things
Um that it it’s tough because I feel like we we we all did great things to contribute you know what I mean like I don’t know I look at it like we all have our errors in our time and there was some times where I mean I was hot for
For you know there’s a space where I was like killing it you know you get like MVP at a allstar game and then the regular season and then the finals and then you win the championship and then you do it again you know what I mean
Like there was a time where I was like you don’t want to see me you know what I mean but then it’s like there there’s lows to it then I had like a hamstring injury then there’s a year where I I think SWS and I were you know we were
Battling back and forth uh she won then I won we’d win every other year and you know so I think is just we we we gave it our all that’s really what I can say I gave it my all I did the best that I could do uh with the resources that we
Had and it’s just um I never think about ranking this because there’s so I mean Diana terazzi is an amazing player uh I wouldn’t want to leave the country you know without swoops swoops is an amazing player um I feel like I feel like they wouldn’t want to leave without me you
Know what I mean like to like get it done like the level of like heart and fight that it takes and just showing up every day whether it was practice or a game like there’s there’s not that many players that but you know what Maya Mo
Was was amazing and I never played with her I don’t think I’ve ever played on the team with May more you know and I thought she was outstanding player so sometimes she gets out the competition and she left the game early yes she did
Yes she did you know so I mean she was and then Briana Stewart in Asia Asia Wilson I mean she on fire like she that that Lefty is no joke to step back like and her motor also her defense and blocking shots like she’s getting better
And better and she’s I mean so NECA Guma like there’s so many players I feel like it’s just almost disrespectful Cynthia Cooper was Unstoppable and she was at the end of her career and Unstoppable nobody could stop Coupe um not not any guards that we had out there
Like she was just a scoring machine so I think it’s kind of a I ever trying to disrespect the players and just name you know like my Mount Rushmore I did that before and I was like oh I don’t like that I did that yeah because you leave
Somebody off everybody was really good I respect that uh two more questions what was it like being a star in LA at the same time as Shaq and Kobe like y’all were kind of both teams were on those runs at the same time you was out of
This world as a star they were out of this world as a star what was that like um it was great I think maybe because one people were respecting the Lakers and the Sparks and we were like a package thing and you know we practiced at the same facilities We we played our
Games at the same facilities um the men supported us which was you know I was telling the the WNBA when we had these conversations that our number one fan are the NBA players and I was telling them way back then like bro they come out and they support us and we never
Really promote that but um the fact that they supported us so much um you know that they would like play ball I would shoot before them Derrick would come in like Kobe obviously we we just had so much like connection and I think the biggest thing about being in La is that
It’s about winning and every season that we didn’t win it felt like a bust you know yes absolutely that’s hard to say when we only had won two championships but I just couldn’t stand it but obviously winning MVP and other individual accolades you know is great but it was
About championships in LA and and just that was a highlight because we all won and especially Dr bus was still alive um you know we all won Dr bus took the Sparks to Hawaii when it was like the Lakers preseason games and you know he took care of us and like celebrated so
Again that goes back to that culture you know it’s a championship culture and so I really appreciated that that’s why I always will be there for anything that the the Lakers have and supporting jeie bus because I appreciated how her father really created a winning culture and
Made us feel welcomed and supported us and I know you guys are getting ready to get a women’s team there you know in Golden State and that that’s important that that means a lot and it doesn’t have to be you know anything big but it
Is that support is it goes a long way and we see that and I’ll never forget that and I I always love the way the Dr bus made the Sparks feel and Johnny bus and the bus family in general just not giving us you know it wasn’t it didn’t
Feel like it was like this this little team that they’re just investing in or ATT tax right off like he was serious like they wanted to win championships and I I love that absolutely um and just you know as you are as an advocate uh
For the G for the women’s game uh last one what was it like seeing Stephen Sabrina uh with the shootout this past weekend at Allstar Weekend I really love that Draymond like I’ve always loved that we participated with the NBA Allstar because we would come out and do the
Shooting I forgot what it was called shooting stars or something and and again Kobe and myself and Magic was we were serious we came out there we won a few years we had some huge trophy like so I think again it’s the opportunity for the fans to recognize the WNBA and
See that hey we’re here you know we’re a part of this you know we were trying to make our way but what happened with stepan Sabrina was like that was like the stamp of like bro the fact that she came out first of all they were sitting
Around forever I was like oh my God this could either go really well or this could go bad just because you know how hard it is to just like shoot and not get a full warm up like bro you got 15 seconds like impossible it’s impossible
She came out and shot the heck out of that ball from the NBA line like and she it was smooth too it’s not Forest you know she don’t have like a hitchy shot like her shot look beautiful and I was just like cheering like you I wanted her
To make every shot so the fact that she got the 26 I was telling my husband I said you know what’s crazy she’s not just shooting against Steph she’s really shooting against the whole Three-Point Contest because no matter what her number is you’re gonna compare it to all
Of those men not just step exactly exactly what happened she get 26 I’m like okay I was just you know how you kind of like you lowkey praying like girl you just I’m pulling for her because she’s representing us all the fact that she hit 26 I’m like that’s
Solid bro she put a lot of pressure on step one but she just tied the uh D who just won with 26 like that meant a lot it really meant a lot I was so proud and I love that you guys and I say you Steph
Like just the fact that you you know Co just the fact that you guys are like verbally so supportive of us it really means the world I don’t know if the players that are like these young players now if they recognize the importance of it maybe they do maybe
They don’t but I certainly do it doesn’t go um unnoticed because it’s validation for our hard work you know we put in the same hours of just the grind of getting up shooting balls running on the track lifting weights The Blood Sweat tears that it takes the Sacrifice from your
Family missing holidays like it it’s all the same the game is not I’m not trying to say our game is all the same of that but I’m just saying it’s the same level of sacrifice in terms of your time as an individual just trying to give everything you can
To this sport to hone your craft and so with that to have you guys like really be so supportive to see Sabrina out there and to score 26 points it was like so solid so amazing and then I thought it was also great that Steph won though because he really is the greatest
Shooter that we’ve ever seen like ever and I don’t like the fact that people like just can’t say that like bro nobody ever has shot the ball as great as that man shoots the ball consistently across this game for years nobody and I just I don’t like that we gonna give people
Their flowers like the way that they deserve sometime and I actually was happy that he was able to to to win because it’s like bro he’s the he’s the king but she shot that ball h i was great I know I’m so long with it but I
Was so excited just I was very very happy I’m so proud I feel like that that Mom is just like looking and watching the game grow and I’m like yes represent I’m supportive I love it no it was huge I had the opportunity to be there and
Watch it happen live uh it incredible the reception from everybody was great uh I to your point I thought it was great for Steph to win I thought it was great for her to have the performance that she had um and it’s really just showing the growth uh and speaking of
Flowers um we are honored to have you on the show alltime great you get your flowers here anytime we love you we thank you for what you’ve meant to the game of basketball not to the WNBA what you’ve meant to the game of basketball I don’t think people just talk about you
When they talk about the WNBA you are alltime great in the game of basketball I thank you for coming on the Draymond Green show you are welcome anytime anytime you want to come here you got something you need to get off your chest you come on and and I will see you and
Your family at the game when we play in Miami okay sounds good thank you Draymond and I really do appreciate you uh taking the time to talk with me and I really appreciate your support of the women’s game and are you a girl Dad too I have three girls oh three girls one
Boy so in that commercial is that your real daughter or no yes it is it is oh she’s beautiful absolutely she is amazing she’s the oldest she’s nine um my son is seven and um I have a three-year-old daughter and a 3-month old and my 9-year-old and I’ll say this because I
Think it needs to be more more normalized so my 9-year-old is is my wife’s daughter from a past relationship however that couldn’t be more my daughter uh her dad is in her life her dad is incredible uh we have a great relationship which I can appreciate
Because that’s not always the case and I think that needs to be like I talk to him just as much as my wife and him talk you know and it’s like I think that needs to be more normal I think that gets lost so often when like
Relationships fail and then it comes in between the kids and the relationship and the parents it’s not that at all so like that’s my baby like as if as the other three are and no I appreciate that I have a blended family too so I my husband has two I have two bonus
Daughters that are I think we got married they’re like nine and 11 so I I appreciate that because it’s the thing is that they’re gaining a parent you know you’re not losing anything and then that communication again it goes comes down to maturity you know you’re being mature enough to say
Hey this child is here and we all love her so how can we all be the best you know co-parent and that’s awesome Draymond yeah that’s awesome thanks for sharing that that’s absolutely absolutely no thank you for coming on the show I appreciate you as Always
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