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The hat worn by Brian today is provided by Mason gear shop.com welcome to the oldfashioned Masonic podcast where we talk all things Free Masons while drinking an oldfashioned I’m Brian I’m Dave Dave you get to introduce this Texan that’s in the middle because there’s been a lot of
Stuff last year going on in Texas and we’re going to get the we’re going to get the scoop from him so introduce Our Guest great well I’m happy to introduce Jake gach welcome thanks got right very nice be so so tell Jake GV what is the origin of the name it’s
Croatian cro yeah originally the name was Gitch and as my ancestors came over into Ellis Island it got changed to gold watch now we’re the only gold watch family in the country is that true yeah true story all right well there so it SE easier if you’re stalking him on the
Internet folks that you know that you’re not going to get the wrong person yeah you’ll find only us all right perfect so have you ever seen an episode of the old fashioned Masonic podcast I’ve seen some of it some of it or some of them some of
Them I’ve seen a little bit of your podcast okay a little bit that’s good so you don’t know enough so you don’t know enough to be comfortable absolutely um so on a level of 1 to 10 what level of uneasiness are you right now with what
We may ask well this has a lot to do with how I know you yes um uh I’d say about a three oh so a three you’re not nervous oh no no no that’s that’s uh that’s my level of comfort oh okay okay I like what you did you well that
Screwed me up I had to do math and that’s not my thing folks so as everyone knows who watches we like to talk about the man as much as we do the Mason so forget the Masonic stuff who is Jake the man tell us so what what do you want to
Know your question your answer all right um I think at heart I’m a I’m a family oriented person okay don’t have a family of my own but my my extended family my parents my brother and his family um friends that I’ve grown up with friends that I’ve made as I’ve
Grown up very close to me I treat them as family um that’s a really important part of who I am um I have some passions in life uh I have a business career it’s very important to me I love it uh I work really hard at it uh but there’s a lot
Of things outside of that that I love I love nature I love going Outdoors u i was a park ranger in previous life for a little bit which I absolutely loved um I’m a musician as a hobby as a hobby I absolutely love that I’ve been playing
Guitar and drums and bass and percussion instruments little bit of piano my whole life born and raised in Texas born and raised in Texas he didn’t true Texan would have let off I’m a proud Texan so I’m wondering if he’s Texan or Croatian we’re going to get back to that L see
That’s the thing we just assume you know it’s just part of who we are we don’t have to talk about it uh but yeah absolutely born and raised in Texas um I’ve lived in a few different cities in Texas Waco Austin Dallas uh born and raised in Houston
Moved back to Houston recently uh spent a lot of time out in the hill country’s most beautiful part of the world in my opinion um do a lot of sailing down on the coast and and that’s what I know about myself I like it that’s a bol of it before we get
Into the Masonic stuff I have to ask the question was there a problem with your ACT score that led you to Baylor and not ut oh that’s interesting I’ll tell I’ll tell you I’ll tell you the real story how I ended up at Baylor my whole life I wanted to be an
Aggie whole life growing up I wanted to be an Aggie I wore a maroon hat every day of my life I went to one football game it was between Baylor and A&M and I decided in that weekend I wanted to go to Baylor it was in Waco had a wonderful
Time there had a cousin who was going to school there he took me all over town had an excellent time and decided I was going to Baylor All right so we’re going to stay at Baylor so you you did some some of your education at Baylor Y and
Then you moved on to smoo moved on to smoo did an NBA at SMU I enjoyed being there I was a a lot more focused on school than having a good time there okay I was an excellent time of my life uh really important for my career so you
Chose the two cheapest schools in Texas to attend that’s right yeah definitely yeah that’s that that that makes sense that makes sense I was I was kind of wondering how what got you there so all right all right so that’s that’s a good synopsis of who Jake the man is all
Right very good very good so we’ve talked about you as the man walk us through your Masonic Journey from the beginning till the time that you join the Moon Lodge and until today I’m kidding about the moon LOD we had an episode about that please go ahead fair
Enough uh so when I was in college at Baylor um I had a really good friend who was a history major and she was very interested in all the Masonic history and some of it conspiracy theory type stuff some of it real history uh a lot
Of it you know very involved in the foundation of the country and and a lot had to do with the foundation of bayor University uh and so I learned a lot about it from her um didn’t know really what the fraternity was about I started walking around campus and I’d start
Seeing cornerstones with a little square Encompass on them and that really got me thinking I’m like I really want to look into this and see kind of what the history of Baylor is how did this fraternity really play into this I’m seeing it right in front of my face um
So in my research and uh and and I found a lodge on campus and I talked to a few guys there I met a guy in a class that was amazing and I talked to him for a little bit um and then all my research I actually found out what the fraternity
Was really about about being a a fraternity that is designed around making yourself the best man that you can be and really being a system of morality to live by and teaching you a lot of lesson lessons about life and how to conduct yourself and and um you know
A lot about how how you view your interactions in society how you treat uh women in particular as a man and uh and it really really appealed to me everything that I’d learned so I went back to some of my friends that I had met that I knew were Masons said I’m I’m
Really interested in this I don’t really know how you get into it I’ve heard that you have to ask someone but you know is that something you could help me do I’m really interested in what this is I’d like to learn more about and had a few
Friends say yeah let’s uh let me get you in touch with a couple people and and and we’ll get you into the lodge you know come in and meet a few people and and make sure it’s really right for you so what year was that that you joined uh
So this was my first expiration into and this was in uh 2007 I ended up graduating college uh a semester earlier and I thought I was going to this was not on time by the way I thought it was going to be a little later than it was
But a semester earlier than I thought faer it’s accepted yeah well it’s a nice place to stay as long as you can sure um so I went to Dallas and as soon as I got there I found that there was some Mason Lodge right next to the office building
I was working in I emailed them got an email back um got contacted by another Mason from Texas who’s uh kind of became my Masonic Mentor um I I talk to him uh regularly he you know uh really helped me guide guide me through the process
And make sure I knew all uh you know a bunch of people in the lodge uh is really wonderful experience I went through that I joined the lunch got very active in it um I ended up going through some of the officer chairs as worful Master of the lodge in 2014 and
2015 um kind of uh helped start an investment Fund in a lodge that really helped uh kind of provide for the finances of the lodge and allows to do a lot more activities and served as Treasurer uh for a year uh a few years after being worful
Master uh and now I dearly miss my Lodge cuz I live in Houston now and I miss my Lodge in Dallas and I miss all my brothers there and I hope to get back there soon um that’s kind of my Masonic history after the but after the blue
Lodge what else did you do what else in the Masons after the blue Lodge um in the Masons are you talking about appendant bodies you’re you’re okay so after the blue Lodge I had met a Mason who was a district uh Deputy grandmas at the time he was traveling around all The
Lodges he knew I played guitar I knew he played guitar guitar so we had a conversation kind of swapping pictures of some neat guitars that we had and he said hey you know I’m part of the shrine band you ought to come out and just jam
With us on a Wednesday night we practice every Wednesday so I went out and just took my guitar out and took him up on it and practiced with them one night just kind of played around filled in tried to pick up the songs they were playing and
Uh I never left I went back every Wednesday for about 5 years uh got to play in State Fair of Texas with the band I eventually joined the shrine after after about a year playing with them they said you know you going have to join the shrine eventually and what
Shrine Center is that this is the hell Shrine in Dallas Texas is it Dallas or is it Garland it’s located in Garland okay I’ve been there so I I’m just trying to to make sure kind walm Hill the outskirts of Dallas for sure okay okay all right no Scottish right no York
Right haven’t done Scot or York right all right so let’s go back to the blue Lodge what chair did you start in we knew you were a master but where’d you start and did you hop around yeah I started in the in Junior Deacon in Junior Deacon okay yeah and just worked
Your way from there I I skipped a lot of chairs I went from there to um actually went to Junior Warden St after that okay oh you didn’t even get to walk him through the all right I got you I filled I filled in a couple times in various
Spots but I went to the junior Warden chair worked my way through uh senior Warden and then eventually became orful Master what was the membership count at that Lodge at the time um uh I I like to focus on on active members that are are showing up all the
Time I think every time we had a meeting we probably had uh 20 guys show up for lunch okay okay and so did you have 200 membership 300 membership yeah I don’t remember the exact numbers so I should know most most lodgic will we have 20 to
30 and you could have anywhere from a membership of 300 over a th000 and that that never seems to be about the same so right whether you’re in Kansas or Texas so it’s interesting and I do want to say that I love how your journey started it’s almost textbook what Mason re used
To be 50 years ago right where you got interested you asked somebody and it and it lost them from there so uh very cool yeah knowing in my family was a Mason it was just something that came came to me randomly I was really interested in when I actually started learning about what
It really was is something I wanted to be a part of yeah and then when you did join what was the proficiency requirement uh to become a Mason at that point um can you ask more specific question for me so did you have to do questions and aners how did you prove up
To go from one degree to the next okay so yeah we did we did questions and answers um we didn’t have to know the questions we just had to know the answers okay I was actually kind of trying to test myself a little bit on
The way up to Kansas today see if I can still go through a lot of it it’s been I think you’d be surprised once you start to hear it yeah yeah yeah so cuz the the reason Dave asked a question you know we always hear a lot um and the Grand Lodge
Of Texas at the Grand Lodge session this year they had the proposal of to seek the inquiry of if they could maybe move forward with all the way in one day classes which we’ll talk about a little bit later so so as a master when you
Were sitting in as a master what’s the one thing that you accomplished that you felt like you were most proud of that year uh the one thing that I think and I’m not going to say I accomplished I’m going to say my Lodge accomplished I
Very much view it that way it’s uh I think there’s a temptation to view it is this is my year to me it’s this is the year that I’m serving as is the worful master at the will of the lodge a boy and uh one thing that was really crucial
To our lodge this is Hill Crest Lodge Dallas Texas is we went through a consolidation process um with another Lodge Dallas it was a Lovefield Lodge uh we we had a situation where uh the resources of both lodges and the needs of both lodges were very much aligned
And it made absolute sense to do it uh and it was very Cooper process with both lodges and the the the lodge that we ended up with uh which is you know now still known as Hill Crest uh we have uh we still have a lot of Honor uh for
Lovefield Lodge and uh certainly don’t want to Discount a Wonder wonderful Lodge that was but um The Lodge that we ended up with the joint Lodge between the two groups um much stronger for both sides uh what we put together was really great for for masonry in Dallas and uh
For all the members uh that we had at the time we saw it really energize and bring back a lot of members that have been away from Lodge for 15 or 20 years seeing them come back and and be like I love what you’re doing you’re you’re
Bringing this back we want to see this this is great this is what I wanted to be a part of um so that’s the that’s the one thing that I was really proud of that year is just doing what I could as worshipful master to kind of help
Orchestrate that process but I certainly don’t want to take away from all the work that was done by the members of my Lodge it was a lodge effort not a not a worful master’s task nice very good and you know Brian and I have talked off camera about that you know that future
Of masonry we’re going to see more merges like that or we need to yeah and I just love the fact that you you told us that it was a it was anable right it it was uh so that’s that’s great uh get the egos out of the way and and uh
Really service the the craft so on the other side of of Brian’s question then what is something that you wanted to accompl accomplish that you didn’t or that your Lodge didn’t in that year um I I want to respond that a little differently cuz I I have some things
That stick out in my Masonic career that that they kind of bother me and and hurt my heart a little bit and I’ll tell you one of those specifically I I think the year that I was uh wor Master there was a Vanguard award a that we could have
Gotten and I think I like a TR Robinson for us oh okay um I think I could have led our lodge to get that and and I think there’s been a lot of worful Masters that have kind of seen that that path and and I I think I really could have led
The lodge to do that but on the other hand my main priority was doing everything I could and again with everyone else’s help to make the the successful merger happen um and actually we got through most of the process then I I think it completed about a month
After I was out of the East um one thing though that that’s always bothered me is I did an absolutely terrible job as treasur my Lodge I really did um and I don’t I think if you asked any of the guys in my Lodge they would laugh and
Say yeah he did horrible job uh but it was something I knew in my heart is that uh I took on a responsibility and I think this is an important thing to think about when you when you agree to do something for a lodge especially you
Know if you really care about the lodge you need to know what your boundaries are and and kind of whether or not it’s it’s within the things you can actually accomplish I think I took it took it on at a point where it made sense with what
I was doing as a career cuz I work in finance um but my ability to be there and actually get it done and do it well and always be around and be there at every meeting and every function was not where I needed to be and it’s always
Hurt my heart that I didn’t that I didn’t do the job I could have done wow that’s uh and kind of going back as as a master for you to be focused on more of the the longevity of your Lodge versus an award I I think
That as much as you’d like to see the lodge accomplish that what you did uh that that vanguard’s not going to propel the lodge 100 years in advance so um I know it kind of that’s something you’d like to accomplish but makes sense so so you’re a Shriner and you’re a member of
The director staff oh yeah and you played guitar at the Cotton Bowl so if you had to pick only one thing that you could play guitar for the Hella band or be in the director staff which was the one you’d pick and the other one you
Could never be a part of between the two yeah well first of all I got to clarify this was the hell Shrine director staff band oh it is you can’t be in the band if you’re not part of the director staff now this is different is it
Different from an oriental band is your director staff in at Hela do they do like the initiations for for when people come in they do a lot of that they do a lot of the setup for events that we have it’s it’s kind of the Workhorse for okay
For any events that we have and things like that so I had a different understanding of what that was but the uh yeah everyone in the band was part of the director staff is the our official name is the hellish Ry director staff band but this is not an oriental band
This is a right rock and roll surf music Old Country some newer country I’ve seen the photos and we’re using them in the promo pieces as your episode became to air so they had seen some of that with your rock and the guitar so that’s that’s
Great all right so we touched on this a little bit but what do you see in the future for masonry 10 years from now that’s a big question um that’s a really big question I think I think I’ll break it down to kind of what’s practical I
Think in 10 years from now there’s some changes that I expect to see happen one thing you mentioned is something I believe in is I think you’re going to see more consolidations happen I think you have uh every everyone knows there’s this kind of large generational Gap in
Masonry not that it’s ever gone away but you had a huge population during the Great generation and baby boomer gener Gen X not nearly as much um somewhat in Millennial Generations it started to grow again MH um but there’s this big Gap and and there’s a lot of difference
Between the ideals of older generations and and younger generations and I think that’s been true throughout human history so I don’t think that’s a thing to to be afraid of um I think you’ll see uh a little bit of struggle a little bit of tension in in the way that things
Change uh I hope that the idea is to preserve the roots of Freemasonry as things continue to evolve uh I think you’ll see a lot of modernization um but I I think the consolidation will help create fewer but stronger lodges uh certainly that’s been kind of my experience and what I’ve seen in
Texas um I think there’s going to be more modernization of lodges um and some of that I think you’re going to see some difficulty amongst um amongst older and younger members in in views of how things should be done and what attracts new uh new young men
To become Masons MH um and you know just being perfectly honest like we’ve we’ve seen that over the last 10 years certainly seeing it Texas now um but I think uh the important part is that we remember the foundational principles to masonry that brings us all
Together and we use that to kind of fight through some R struggles as brothers not as enemies and uh and I think you see that with all kinds of organizations but it’s certainly um you know certainly taking place in masonry but I think the end result results is
You’re going to see fewer stronger lodges that become more modern and and becoming more modern what is that mean to me that’s um in in the way you handle payment of dues in uh in the way that you keep membership records in in the way that you uh you know keep history of
Of great things that the LOD has done uh in the way that you so Dave off camera we talked about consent agenda and he had never heard of a consent agenda before um and for those who aren’t Kansas Masons so we have a consent agenda where basically we’ll have the minutes and and
Kind of the bills posted ahead of time where you don’t have to read that nonsense and lodge and take up 20 minutes of filler so I think the consent agenda that we do in Kansas it really make it it frees up time to make uh the Masonic education that should be
Deployed at every meeting more beneficial who wants to come to a meeting to hear about bills unless it’s something substantial right so but that could be maybe a progressive move that that Texas could do with some sort of a consent style agenda sure um I think so
My view of that is anything that that makes the uh the business meetings that we have every month where to get to a point where we can handle the business of the lodge and get through the things we have to do administratively but then also provide a lot more Masonic education and Masonic
Experience and I’ll tell you my Lodge right now has a worful master who is do trying to do that in every meeting and you know talking U about a lot of the the history of kind of more esoteric masonry and what used to be done really the real roots of
Masonry and and being honest about how it’s evolved over time and trying to steer it back to that so you get a little bit more of that Masonic old school Masonic experience nice nice so let’s talk about Texas you kind of talked about um Youth
And age but there’s been a a lot going on last year in Texas masonry yeah a lot right um we published a lot of it here from from from this channel what do you think the root cause and and the question really is what do you think the
Root root cause is is the youth or age is the root cause forget let’s take the age out because you you can be young but old school or or older but is it more the traditional versus versus the progressives is that what’s going on is that what’s without kind of getting into
This this isn’t a this isn’t a g play against Brad deal um anything like that this is what is it is it Progressive versus traditional is it is it a who’s more popular than me is it an ego thing like most men or is it all of the
Above so as you know it’s a little bit of it’s a sensitive question and I want to answer it in in a a way that kind of resonates with what I feel in my heart okay so I think that in all kinds of organizations I mentioned this already
Throughout history I would be willing to believe that there were struggles as as an organization’s leadership is handed off from an elder generation to a younger generation I certainly saw that happen in my Lodge and we discussed things in depth and we had a lot of heated conversations by heated I just
Mean passionate conversations about what the future of the L should be and I think ultimately we all came together and through consolidation and then through work that was done well after I was in the East a lot of great guys in my Lodge took the lodge really forward and and really made it
Something that younger guys wanted to be a part of you’re definitely going to have generational differences and I think it’s just naturally going to create struggle and I think you’re definitely seeing some of that in Texas um in terms of of what the really really the conflict is is defining what the
Future of the organization is in Texas um you know my hope is that everyone remembers their Masonic complications to love each other and and and works together that way to resolve it um I I would say that that in my personal opinion this is not an opinion of The
Lodge Grand Lodge of Texas or anything like that but I think there’s just a a difference between generational views that is natural and happens um in all organizations and it’s and and masonry is not uh not going to avoid that it’s certainly going to have those conflicts
Uh especially given some of the larger generational gaps that exists amongst our membership yeah that’s uh Jake for uh Grand LOD of Texas officer I’m putting a nomination out right there there you go that’s yeah that’s a great answer oh yeah yeah there’s a that’s deep okay that’s deep all right well
Let’s stay on the future okay you are a Shriner yes but you have not joined the Scottish right or the York right um in Kansas it used to be a requirement to join the shrine you had to be in the Scottish right or or the York right uh
As well as a Mason obviously um but we we did away with that requirement in 2000 mhm and of course the uh the Scottish W and New York W they they don’t have the membership that they used to uh especially after that so what are your thoughts going forward should the
Shrine require blue Lodge membership it’s been on it’s been on the florid Imperial I certainly understand why people are asking that question um the the same membership problems that the blue Lodge had uh they certainly extend into the appendant bodies because that’s the source of your membership for
The shrine and Scottish right and York right um what I hope happens is that that is not the answer to to to segregate all these organizations and make them have nothing to do with each other other um I think it will take time you’re you’re
Seeing uh a lot of lodges in Texas in particular because that’s that’s the world I know for masonry you’re seeing a lot of lodges that are finding ways to really attract new members uh young young professionals uh you know guys from all walks of life uh not just not just from professional
Organizations um but young men who who get exposed to the fraternity and and meet other like-minded people and get to really see the values that are built in the fraternity I don’t want that to go away as the core of these other organizations yeah that’s really what I
Don’t want to see um I understand the temptation to do that because you’ve got while while I’m a Mason I’m also a Shriner and I’m concerned about my Shrine Temple and I don’t want its membership to drop off and and I think there’s a temptation to say hey let’s
Just segregate from this and then be able to recruit members from the general public and not be tied to any struggles that the Masons lodges are going through in terms of membership but uh I think uh because I know what it’s like to be a Mason I think that
Does a disservice to the shrine and I I’m not I’m not in Scottish right I’m not in the York right but I would imagine that does the same diservice to those organizations because the core of all of it is masonry and that is what brings together the the goodness of this
Group of men and I don’t want that to be lost in those other organizations I can’t discre that not at all not at all so let’s change the pace let’s make it a little less deep so living or dead uh who would you want to
Have a meal with that you’ve never had a meal with before living or dead this doesn’t have to be amazing right your your answer oh Nicola Tesla really nice answer that’s a great answer and why uh I okay so very interesting person in history um this is
Just my personal opinion from the little bit of research I’ve done about him um he first of all he comes from the same general area of the world as my ancestors so I really like uh yeah I feel him there but uh brilliant man came up with some of the
Most amazing things that we use in in in the modern world uh really interesting fight that he had with Thomas Edison over the way that we use electricity in the US ended up winning a terrible business person yeah ended up you know broken alone even though he
Invented some of the most amazing things that exist today uh obviously there’s a lot of conspiracy theory around some of the some of the work he did a lot of the very end of his life in particular I don’t want to get into that I don’t know
The answers to it I’ll never know the answers to it but I’d love to sit down and hear the truth from him that’s awesome we’ve not heard that so we we asked that question and that I’ve not heard that and it’s actually the best rationalist to why cool nice I love it I
Love it pretty cool love it all right so another fun one if you could have one superpower what what would it be and why time travel okay okay uh couple reasons uh a I’d love to just actually see things play out throughout history all the things that people say oh I know how
This happened and there’s you know dissenting feel no it happened like this I’d love to see it for myself I like to see things for myself um I’m also big on experiences in life uh so I would go you know within a moderate realm of safety
See some of the coolest things that ever happened in history the most interesting and fascinating impactful things that ever happened um I also have this question uh I’m going to get into I’ll keep it brief but there’s there’s alert yeah I’m going to nerd out on time
Travel real quick there’s two views of it if time travel is possible you either can go back in time and change things or you can’t so that’s the question can you go back in time and if you can can you change things my view is
Either you can go back in time and try to change things and you’ll find out that you always went back in time and did those exact things and that’s how things always played out or or you’ll complete a completely Al completely alternate path of reality which then
Opens up whole new realm of questions I’d love to know the answer to that it’s a thing that I think about a lot and I’d love to know the answer to it that’s actually the correct answer yeah you you can’t change the past on a linear
Timeline right and so I’m going to nerd out with you great let’s do it that yes the the idea is if somehow you could uh get back into time and change something kill Hitler for instance then it would create a separate timeline different from what we live in today and yours
Would always be perfectly linear yep fing fascinating okay so before we get to the most important question of the podcast uh that we I want to kind of throw this so I’m not going to throw the particular person under the bus so we received recently a cease and assist letter from
Let’s just say say a player in the at in the great state of Texas so to anybody that tries to send us anything on a cease and assist I will just tell you this we do everything fact-based we have supporting information but I will give you the same
Advice as I did recently is there is a hot bag of something that I would enjoy for you to have a bite of but don’t come at us with this because this is I say this before I ask this next question oh great go with everything’s going on in Texas
This last year um I think there’s been a bit of a fracture I do think the state of Texas is going to come out of it uh there’s going to be some hurt feelings there’s definitely there’s I think there’s three camps there’s a a a pro
Current grandm a pro pass grandm and the guys’s in the middle is like hey let’s just make this work right so here’s the question do you think that this fracture is going to be deep enough that there would ever end up being two grand lodges in Texas not that you want it
Because nobody wants that that’s terrible but do you think it’s possible no I don’t think it’s possible at all I think that at the end of the day we’re going to there might be some arguments there might be some disagreements about how we do things um I believe in masonry
I believe in the principles that that it teaches us and I think that the people who are leading the Grand Lodge of Texas all of them will remember that th those are those things those ideal are why we’re here I think they’ll lean on those and I think they’ll come together and
Find A Way Forward um I think one thing is really important and there’s a lot of talk about old versus young and is that really the issue and I don’t think it’s an age vers youth thing I think it’s generational differences in how we view life and in experiences in technology
Things that older Generations have seen happen in history the younger Generations haven’t seen happen firsthand at some point that young generation is going to be the older generation and they’re going to have to pass along masonry to someone else I expect them to have the same struggles
And I expect them to go look at their Masonic principles at that point and say we need to come together as brothers and I ultimately think that’s what will happen I think we’re going to go through a lot of Heartache but I think the fure sure the launch will be much better than
It is today I like it what what would you have thought you think there’ll be two no I don’t I don’t either because somebody’s got to recognize the other one in Grant in the dispensation and then you’ll have some clandestine yeah I don’t think there’ll be either but your answer is way better
So the most important question of the podcast dancing girl dancing girl right so up on the screen and I’m not going to let you see it yet because you’re trying to pee so up on the screen are four things four things that are near and
Dear to your heart okay okay one of them has to go forever what would it be so I’m going to show you the four things and let me so on the screen You’ got a Jeep you’ve got a guitar you have masonry and you have the univers or you
Have bayor the Baylor Bears the University of Baylor is it Baylor University it is Baylor University my God so one of these has to go forever so a Jeep go it was never invented a guitar nobody’s ever played music Sorry will Nelson masonry it was never invented or
Baylor sick and Bears all right so let’s let’s break this down first of all put up a choice that I can’t you put up a choice that I can’t pick this is what we do here yeah a choice I can’t pick is masonry that won’t go away I’m not
Getting rid of that so it’s it’s between three things that I love that are personal specifically to me and don’t necessarily relate to other Masons um let’s see Baylor was a big part of my life music is the big part of my life uh okay here’s how I feel about it oh
God out je I’m a Jeep driver till I die I don’t think I’ll ever live my life with that one for the rest of the time unless they stop making them and then I’ll have classic Jeeps okay however oh god um Baylor was so impactful to my life
And I’m such a Baylor Bear I’m a DieHard Baylor fan even when we’re in the middle of the Scandal even when our team goes yeah they got a they got a little rapy for a while oh SCH oh I know there were some things but it was a very impactful
Part of my life definitely you know certainly consider it my alma moer um very attached to it I couldn’t get rid of Baylor because it was such an important part of my life uh music I can’t get rid of the Jeep’s going isn’t it a car I can replace man but it was
Never invented the jeep was never invented okay well if it’s never invented then I have no strain what’s over folks the jeep has to go you heard it here not selling a Jeep though Jake thanks for uh coming in from Texas and hanging with us thanks for having me
Guys thanks for watching old fashion Masonic podcast
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