All right we are live and I am live with jrod on point True Crime hi jrod thank you for having me I appreciate you so much though big shout out to the whole Community this is a great opportunity though oh I I just I was so elated to
Have you to on have me on your show the other day and so it’s awesome that I can have you now so anytime anytime you want to have me uh just let me know we schedu and that that’s not a problem again uh I love to collaborate with with content
Creators in YouTube uh I have collaborated with with big and small content creators it’s like uh well a lot of people in YouTube True Crime talks about being uh co-signed and certified and baptized in the True Crime community I already already been there done that I have you
Know I have I have R rough elbows with the best of the best of the of the community and I also have gone to war with the best of the best in the community so um I for a lot of people I’m like a very controversial character
In The True Crime Community um I guess you know I’m not everyone’s cup of tea but I have like the best intentions to come to the YouTube True Crime community and and give you uh what I have far as as my personal knowledge as a human
Being and and and my experiences in life um I like to share it with not just the public but with all the content creators that might have questions of of how I operate how I get my information how I work how I go by business and stuff like
That so again thank you so much for having me oh I’m so honored I really am so tell um if you if you could would you tell tell my everybody that kind of a little bit about yourself and where you yes uh where you come from yeah my name is JRA Point actually
My name is Juan Rodriguez I always give my my government name like everywhere I go I don’t have nothing to hide uh I call myself in the YouTube True Crime community jro on Point against Jay of Juan Rod of Rodriguez so Jay Rod on
Point I like I like to be on point uh I learned in life at early stages that to actually from where I come from I come from Puerto Rico it’s a little Iceland in the middle of the Caribbean at 100 miles by 35 miles uh it’s a beautiful
Iceland but it’s at the same time very dangerous uh depends where you at in the Iceland like for for tourism and and and tourism purposes and stuff like that Puerto Rico is the best place to go because you will have fun you will love the the music will you love the food uh
Especially in the Christmas time like if you go to Vacation around the Christmas times I’mma tell you right now you will have the best experience awesome I’ve been there and that’s guarant that’s guaranteed that’s something uh uh among among a lot of things that I guarantee
About myself in life it’s one of the things that I could guarantee that I said that’s a guarantee 100% is having fun in the Iceland of Puerto Rico but at the same time in certain areas in Puerto Rico that there are not very uh you know tourist friendly and stuff like
That uh unfortunately I think that’s like in everywhere around the world you always going to have certain areas that are not very uh people friendly but uh unfortunately I had the luck and bad luck to live in one of those communities actually many communities because uh
When I was in Puerto Rico um I have I have family members like uh where I grew up I have family members in four corners of the Iceland so I went I went and spent time in many many many places in the Iceland and yes uh uh I was born in
1977 uh oh W yes I’m an 80s B we’re not too close we’re not too far apart yeah I’m I’m 47 years old thank thanks Lord Jesus I appreciate you um I consider myself a Christian even though a lot of people say like you don’t act like a Christian well I don’t
Have to be the Christian you want me to be I was gonna say I’m saying you know I mean I seen I seen you know Pastors in church in the middle of the the church it’s like in the name of Lord Jesus Christ and few minutes later they
Cursing like right on stage and stuff like that you know I mean that don’t mean that they don’t have the Holy Spirit I don’t mean that they not there for the right reasons it’s just like some people think that the Christians are weak people I don’t know why like I
Just don’t get that people be like oh Christians that you smack them in the face and they give you the other side of the cheek and I was like ah Jesus did that I’m Not Jesus so you know my goal is to be as as uh give me one second please one second
Sorry no [Laughter] problem oh hey Amy I know I said hi to you in the chat but sorry for that or Interruption no problem Interruption um so yeah I I just don’t know uh why they believe uh Christians are uh weak people that they don’t show no strength and stuff like that
Um and uh I came to United States uh in 1999 I like to say um wow yeah after a fail journey to college for nine month I went to college for um systems of information in national college so uh I got me like a a good experience in college and what college
Had to offer and stuff like that for a little bit and um then I came to United States because I guess I was ready I was ready for the challenge I was ready to be like fully 100% independent at the age of uh
19 wow and uh I came to a New Jersey and I started my journey in United States and here I am up to this day today living life uh raising a family having a beautiful wife beautiful kids uh try to try to help the the true prank
Community with with what I know far as what I learned in life yeah you know uh dealing with uh a whole bunch of criminal elements very early age um people around me I see a lot you know been through a lot uh I can’t say I done a [Laughter]
Lot I play the fth yeah me too I mean I have a clean record though what I have like a dist what was that uh uh I think somebody said that I had like a um oh my God what’s that I forgot um you know when you just like yell at L
Um oh my god um I don’t know it’s like like when you just like like disturbing the piece of something because you you’re just jellying and you’re just like probably um dealing with a dispute at the moment and and uh I forgot what you call that
Though it’s like a Mr Miner so anyway long long story short in my life I I I have a clean a clean record like I’m a good boy I haven’t BR broken the plate yeah I I can’t you know tell people that you know I have gotten away with murder
Because I have that not committing no murder I’m a good boy listen I’m you favorite brother your mother’s favorite child I’m the black sheet I’m that one guy that everybody hates but everyone that knows me love me so yeah well that I will tell you um that I have I have a
Sister currently right now at one of my she she was a twin my and we’re 16 years apart my mother had twins when I was 16 years old and she’s in she’s been to prison twice and one time her and I were talking and I I asked her I said so what
Is the deal what what between you and I why are we so uh different in the sense that you know with our I I don’t feel like I how did you get your Criminal Mind and she said oh Holly no you definitely have a Criminal Mind she said it’s like it’s like some
Of us some of us get to just not get caught I to I know I told her I said I feel the heat in I can get out like listen if we get in trouble we’ll figure that thing out we will we’ll make sure we’re good we’re
Good listen we don’t we don’t encourage no no uh uh bad behavior to no no bad behavior to no humans but in our experiences in life uh some people have uh gone through unfortunate situations in life and uh some people get to not face consequences I guess because
They either did it right while doing it wrong yeah and I mean again I think this is why I’m here in the True Crime Community because I have seen so much people get away with murder I have seen so much people get away with selling drugs for 30 plus
Years all their life and has not never gotten caught and when they got caught after two years and a half they beat the case after two int tempts of Rico and suprior court uhhuh and after two years and a half the judge tells you Mr Rodriguez I mean uh mister if I ever
Ever see you again you better clip your nose clean if I ever ever see you again in my Courthouse I not going to let you go I’m like they all say that I’m like me yeah right gra gra oh yeah by the time you hit the door
Of the car house you would even open the door of the car you just jump over the window through the window go not look back I’m Not Looking Back you know if you look bad you turn on salt yeah big shout out to Emy Conway big
Shout out the John Brook thank you for being here yeah my boy John I think I have a lot of elements that that that a lot of people because listen like I don’t know if you realize hearing the truth crime Community it’s a lot of True Crime content creator they
Have not lived life right they they they they seeing other people doing true crime they thought that that could have be something they could do they don’t know the basics of how to do it they don’t know the basics about how to think about it they don’t they don’t even know
How a criminal think they don’t know how a criminal within law enforcement think uh I was framed by law enforcement years ago after two years and a half I beat the case yeah so I I know how it feels being locked up we a dangerous hearing locked up for six months while
Having money to get out again my 10 my 10% it was $100,000 my 10% it was $100,000 I had it to get out right away like I had the money cash money right away they didn’t want to let me go wow so for six months having money to get out being
Innocent I spent six months in maximum security jail doo in the 6 by9 praying to God every single night like Lord I have believ in you all my life you have Ked me alive all my life I know you will get me out of here like
That was a fact when I said that the same night that I said that while I was praying I woke up with demons crash on my arm oh man like you you could have see on my arm on my tattoo right here yeah you could have see that the three demon
Claws and then the one in the middle was the deepest cuz you could tell when when when it goes from the tip of the nails all the way to scratch deep and that was one of the oldest jails from the area we’re talking about in that jail it was a prison from back
In the days in the four uh the 14 uh 1400s it was the type of prison that they used to hang the inmates wow and it became a jail after that so you know a lot of people believe that in that particular um complex he was a lot of demons and entities and
Principalities and stuff like that and I guess I was praying to God so so out of my heart like like that that that communication is sincere you know what I mean yeah um because again no one could criticize you relationship with God only only you know your relationship with him
You know what I mean so I guess my prayer was so poent by the time I woke up I woke up with a little physical burn in my arm like like you know when you somebody Scrat you and you so my skin my skin it was unbroken but my inner
Flesh it would it was like you could see like the the three Claws from within the tip the tip of the nails that are that pointy all the way into deep because you could see the the the thicker of the nails when it got all the way and again
A lot of people don’t believe in ghosts people don’t believe in Phantoms don’t believe in you know it’s it’s a very taboo topic but again it happened to me yeah I feel like if you if you’re gonna believe in one you got to believe
In the other yeah if if if no no Jesus without Satan right but you know what I commend you on your your faith I commend your faith when you were there because um a lot of people would I would think would lose a lot of that and
So I have more respect for you even now me I believe a lot of a lot of people that goes to to jail find Jesus quicker than outside yes I believe that you know and that that’s a fact like like like when you go to
Jail is where you find Jesus yeah or or you find Allah or you find Buddha or you find whatever people believe that is their their righteous way to go so um unfortunate it takes for people to go to jail to actually find Christ people say like oh why you didn’t find Christ out
There and some people say well I guess cuz he was locked up with [Laughter] me well yeah I mean how long was Peter locked up right right he was there for years oh well I am so glad to have you with me and um I did um want to get your um your
Thoughts we we were talking about the other day that a hearing that um that happened the the most latest hearing that happened and you want to take a look at it yeah let me see if I could get it real quick for You I have it uh I have it there oh okay so you wna like there we go do the due diligence so yeah okay um thank thanks to the um I would like to to send a big shout out to Leon County big shout out to Judge John judge for allowing uh our
Channel to to have possession on on this very important historic uh criminal case court day uh I believe this particular court day it was very um essential within the whole procedure for the simple fact that I think that in this particular hearing hearing day we could clearly
See the intentions of an Taylor to move forward with was going on uh all her staff is on standby everybody’s ready to go they being ready to go she being advocating for uh immediate start um but the only thing that due to the this case is a death penalty
Case and Taylor W to cross all the pie and cues she want to make sure that way before we get to any uh important or not important hearing that it actually it would take uh very important part within this case she want to have everything that the prosecution had she don’t want the
Prosecution that after the procedes start she don’t want to be caught in the surprise like oh judge uh we have this ruling for for admission and whatnot now she gotta uh move faster or or or just say judge we not ready for this and then now it’s
Going to delay longer so I I believe it’s just in my personal opinion this my very personal opinion due to the an Taylor no who he’s who she’s dealing with she know Bill Thompson she know just judge yeah she knows the infrastructure the infrastructure behind this case yeah the
Powers to be behind this case political legal private local stateof state International whatnot so she’s fully aware what’s going on here yeah a lot of people don’t give an Taylor the benefit of the doubt because they believe that just because she’s a um a public defender yeah yeah you know
That she’s she’s paid by the state and whatnot um I believe that a lot of people like to make her look like she’s incompetent uh that she she she don’t know actually what she’s doing that just filling the court with a bunch of paperwork for more delays and delays and
Whatnot but when you get to 12 to 13 request for Discovery you know something’s wrong there yeah this is this is unprecedent this has not happened nowhere in United States of America we actually had done a little research to get to a 13 uh request of a discovery um
It only give me one thing to think you was so fast to go and get this guy but not you’re not in a hurry to prosecute because obviously you know that this is just a theater this is just something that obviously it was I don’t want to say fabricated I don’t
Wanna I don’t want to say the the uh the money interest the the the possible loss of money the POS loss of credibility and stuff like that is behind it I don’t want to say those things yeah I would like to say that it was
Uh because again we on your show I want to be political correct I don’t I don’t uh I leave I leave the Spitfire for my own channel c cuse i I could deal with the consequences of of my own thing right but when I when I go
And visit uh content creators uh I like to stay with my train of thought with what I already share on my channel but at the same time I want to be more a little bit more alleg a little bit more um political correct yeah so um I would like to say the
Incompetence that’s what I would like to call it the incompetent of Moscow py could probably could probably take this case for a clear dismissal yeah especially when you see the not just social media but the news media Outlet is supposed to be legit uh
We seen them bring a lot of n RI Forest against this guy uh they are so sure that whatever the state has brought up to the table uh even though in other cases because if you sit there and you re replay the the footage the same people they say that cold Burger is
Guilty is the same people that has give other people the benefit of the doubt with less evidence actually more EV with more evidence than C Burger yeah they have set there and be like well we doubt this and this and that well inocent to proven guilty but then when it comes to
To cber then you could tell that is a possibility of uh external sources of power influencing the decision making of what’s going to be shared in the news media Outlets or in within the YouTube true crie content creators with a lot of subscribers that’s that’s the that’s the
People that that it gets Rich by the PO to be and favor to favor yeah favor to favor you do this for me uh I put you in parom pictures you know we make a little documentary you push this Nar we we create a a cyber sluth uh documentary we
Get you clout out of that you just make sure that you stay within the program we we look after you if if this he’s the fan whenever he’s the fan you know we got plenty excuses to go by the why we was wrong or it was not
Wrong it just the guy beat the case it just that you know mosco messed it all up but he’s the guilty guy he will forever probably be guilty even though he even had nothing to do with this that’s what that’s what I’m concerned about at this point is that when he if
He is found not guilty um I’m scared I would be worried for him I mean I I don’t know how he I mean he would you know like even my daughter has said I she doesn’t know how Casey Anthony is is walking around in the same town that she lived in but I
Mean you know he I just don’t know what they’re gonna do I mean even his family is being affected you see um at this moment due to the the personal information that I have within this case and the and the characters within I would like to say I’m not afraid of
Anything happen happening to cleberg if he’s found innocent oh good I seriously Al Le at least in my personal opinion um um I would like to say I’m 99.5 per sure that if he gets a dismissal and found like not let’s say if the court process and
Trial goes by and let’s say they dismiss this case I don’t I don’t believe that this guy will be in any danger whatsoever like either from family members or known people from loved ones from the victims I don’t believe the bran cob Berger for the simple reason that he right now
Conversations backdoor conversations in Moscow Idaho within the locals within the locals that they know what’s going on yeah they they know they know like the own people from Moscow Idaho and I’m talking about the locals that don’t have nothing to do with the University of Idaho they know they don’t believe
Anything the moso PD nor the University of Idaho are talking about they are fully aware of the corruption levels in these two entities within mosow Idaho um just the just the story that they brought to the table themselves which all could be alive but just whatever they share with the
Community the community don’t believe nothing of what they talking about we have confirmation that his family members that he been on interviews in news news media Outlets they they don’t believe the cobber did it but they have to go with the N right they have to go with the N
Because again the last person the the only family member and I want to send this big shout out to carara Santa’s mom big shout out to Cara hopefully you’re doing well yes carara was the only parent that criticized and didn’t believe whatever they talk about yep and
She’s in jail right now I know I I remember instead of like them realizing instead of them realizing because in the same way they brought services to all the family members right if they recognize the demons that she’s fighting and the situation that she’s going through and everything that is going on
Surrounding her why they couldn’t hog her and be like listen we got you right we got you either or we got you we we will put you on a rehab program if we have to do it mandatory it’s going to be mandatory we will get
You a place to to live uh a transitional place to live we want to get you situated after we get you clean we try to get you a job and stuff like that like right now the the family members of the other victims are millionaires right
Now as we speak they all are over $1 million as we speak call my bluff anyone in the chat or anyone that watch this footage later on comment down below call I’ve been I’ve been wondering because I also find it very fascinating when I found out that
Ethan’s family is not even going to attend the trial when the trial starts well when you lost when you lost one child but you have three of the same and you have two of the same you had three you lost one but you still got two
You have the the the boy and the girl yeah even though if you lost the the the the the the best of all they would take that as a sacrifice for the well-being of the family future if the if the if the opportunity present let’s say for example let’s say
For example we’re not saying that none of these happened right but let’s say for example the University of Idaho know that they up to the neck with guilt on anything that happened how the coover let’s say if it was any type of covering uh let’s say on
The a say seven to eight hours o of of delay to call authorities let’s say those through seven to eight hours it was any communication with the Greek Council fraternity authorities or the University of Idaho way before the cops got called they done yeah they know that they done it is
Nothing that is going to fix that everything’s going to crumble so they know for example if those through seven to eight hours is any these crepancy that the University of Idaho is involved staff the president of the University of Idaho having knowledge what happened and didn’t call but instead of call
Authorities he he gather all his staff and do damage control and prepared for eight hours was about to happen in the morning if anything of that gets founded he know for a fact that him as a personal person everything like everything in his life is done University of Idaho done fraternities
Done everything it gets banned out of Moscow Idaho they know this yeah so if they had if they took part of anything illegal on foul play what you think they’re going to do they’re going to take all the family members that they could play with get
Them in bed with them Financial any kind of support I’mma put you in the news media Outlets I’mma make you famous it’s GNA help you for what you’re doing on your personal life if you was broke we’re going to put money in your pocket we’re going to make sure your books are
Okay your family okay you new baby okay all this other stuff you know you is is is students in the University of Idaho family members of the victims that are fully taken care of right now but Cara now just because carara is is questioning everything right she’s she’s questioning why the people around
Ethan and Santa through the whole night are not talking to authorities why at this day today they don’t know where Ethan and Santa was when in Santa was around people when Ean in Santa was around students they were there caught on camera with them because again I’m not going to
Mention what I already had discovered that he on the hands of mosc PD that is’s well known about everyone but again some content creators he’s like oh no no no gr truck the G truck is nothing there okay cool okay cool I’ll be the only content creator by the time everything comes out
They actually pinpointed a key element in this investigation that at this day today no one has even thought about actually I’mma put it like this if the mother of one of the victims tells you that’s my daughter there you go that she tell you jrra that’s my daughter I know her her
Voice I know her clothes I know her her hair I know how she talks she talk to the camera she look at the camera that’s her that’s my daughter so then right after that she made me promise her jrro let’s not worry about about that now now
Now that we know that now we need to focus on all the friends around her that has not talked to the cops right so why Ethan and Santa are missing at this day today for a few hours when they were around their own peers yeah so how can
They be lost when they were around people yeah because for a long time the cops were putting a big old announcement out there that they needed to know where these guys were from certain time a day I told them I told them where they were two weeks into the two weeks into the
The murders two weeks after the murders I told them where they were MH I told them what they needed to do to confirm they were there I spoke with Captain Dinger Brett Payne they know I know but again everything is on a hush everything is under seal they can’t talk about it
Right now hey jrod you know we cannot talk about that well I guess you at least acknowledge what I’m talking about and you know that if you don’t do do diligence in that one particular detail Cole Berger will walk either way yeah because at least if they do due diligent on fixing the
Timeline even though that get C Burger out but that’ll take you to the person that I told you you need to be looking into but you don’t want to go there political donations uh one of their suspect has family members in the DA office and stuff like
That of course you’re not going to look into this is students from the University of Idaho from fraternities of the University of Idaho peers of the victims they actually have modin to actually kill them yeah but you don’t want to look into them now you have Cole
Burger why far away from Pennsylvania oh no listen we need to get a guy that is from far away we we need to from far away okay listen I don’t care if you get kopaka Co Burger I don’t listen I I don’t care who you get right but long as
They have a body yep ah we need a body and that it doesn’t have nothing to do with no connections of Idaho we need a random person to make a random story and just s it to him yep yep and I don’t know if you were able to
Listen in on the Nancy Grace on Sunday I think it was but I listen for five minutes oh my hell I listen to it for five minutes too jrod I and all I did was I get that clip of her saying ju look gonna take one look at
Him and run and then I was done but I had to make fun of it so she said that I was done Holly I was done I couldn’t I couldn’t like it gave me sick to the stomach like I was so mad at that well I actually did go back and I did
Watch it a couple days later after I cooled and um I got to tell you um she has a completely different timeline than than any thing that we’ve ever seen or heard of um one of her guests talked about how there was cober’s blood on the knife
Sheath um I know and then um Nancy said that they had his Amazon orders showing that he bought a Kar and I’m thinking okay hold the phone if these are facts there’s a gag order they know that that stuff is not true but you know what they’re doing they’re
Potentially um damaging or or putting um uh misinformation in potential jurors that’s what they’re doing yes and uh go ahead I was just going to say that they there are hundreds she was up to like almost 200,000 views on that one and I just thought holy cow all these
People that are going to see this some could be possibly jury members and they’re going to walk in there already tainted like like for example right let’s talk about before we go to the footage let’s talk about lean the lane what they said about Lind Lind Lane that that was a
Leak from the evidence Paul from trial that from the stuff that he’s going to be using trial they said what was that the uh the Steve gonal is purposely lick that footage looking for justice that’s that’s what these people’s talking about but what they don’t what they don’t
Understand that they talking and praying to the ignorance of the community c a person like me that pay attention will look at you and be like well uh did you forgot that the judge told the the Steve G Calis and family the well you’re not part of the G gag order as we
Speak but I advise you due to that you could be a future witness in this case I advise you to mind what you say due to you might be a possible witness in the future of this case everybody was like why the judge said that what what
Why the is GNA be uh Witnesses in this case well cuz hours after you daughter die yall went through her cell phone yall went through the whole family account we don’t know what y did with that information and even though if you delete whatever you delete from her files on her
Phone everything is still there right the cops just need to get a warrant for that information and it don’t matter if you deleted it from the family’s account it’s still there so if by any chance it was anything shady or anything that indicates that she was in bad arguments with Jack deor
That Jack deor said some compromising stuff to her that you know any type of Treads or any type of due to the Jack Decor said beloved from the G Calvis family why if you why when you knew that your daughter died you even thought about getting into her account to know what
Right well well well it don’t matter if that’s your daughter that’s a dead person now that becomes a crime now you it don’t matter if you’re the dad the mom the sister it don’t matter who you are you knew that person was dead you knew that you have the
Responsibility of leave it alone and let the cops work yep by law that’s tampering that’s tampering with evidence they know that and they know that that could be used against them in the court of law that’s another thing that the University of Idaho and Moscow
P has against them you know that I could do you know what I’m saying you know that I could put you through the through the m a little bit right so E I hope that you do what I tell you to do I mean I don’t want to get there I’m
Just saying but if I have to I have to because you was not supposed to touch even though you didn’t touch the phone but you touch the account of a dead person right you enter you enter a secure a secure that you need a pass a
Password you need a key you need a code to enter to that information you utilize that code on your benefit for you to know the information of a dead person that he was supposed to be within the criminal investigation that’s why the judge told you that you are not your lawyer is
Which his lawyer is being already and like he already opened his mouth so that that that could be used against against in court and and believe me and Taylor already had records of all that catching this guy talking about the case after they got go was implemented oh they
Gonna use all that yeah yeah they even GNA use Steve C and then data RI that he’s bringing to the table as as a family member being utilized for the powers to be oh Steve they have the proof that all this stuff is going on yeah so so so so
Now I’m wondering why if they know actually how come the the the authorities use Alivia gales timeline right can anybody in the chat room tell me how when you have FBI CIA Stormtroopers you have dogs cats run falling off the SKU like investigating this case you have all type of
Governmental agencies investigating this case but the timeline came out of a non legal Source came from a family member of a victim that should have be taken as a suspect because if you ask me when this happen everyone is a suspect yeah D Bethany Jack Jake listen mom dad Grandpa Grandma
Listen until we put you through the whole month and clean rinse you up and clean you up yeah you’re a suspect that’s right I don’t care who you are that’s right but it’s the same people that got cleaned for in a week how how in a week you could clean 40 40 plus
People what kind of Investigation you could bring to court you know aun Taylor already requested all this stuff yeah what you gonna bring to court that it could be used in a court of law that the judge could say yes this is a complete investigation of all the immediate
Suspects when the immediate suspects has DNA within the facility of the bodies now explain that to me yeah Chase I see here and I watch all the content creator he like you you you you either saying what you’re saying knowing that you wrong and you just saying it because you want to be
Another jlr or or or you just ignorant you just ignorant like you just going by what all the big content creators are talking about and doe to that these big content creators you’re gonna follow their lead and talk about what they talking about so you get Cod signed by them so now you
In the door yeah oh you have this big content creator oh let me send a shout out to this small content creator you know shame my content and did you know or did you notice when they had I think it was when they’d removed the the kids and it was like the
The the second day after this crime happened and they went back in and the lawyers were there did you notice that Olivia was with them now she was big and Pregnant she hadn’t had her baby yet so I know it was very soon after the after the crimes I
Know here’s the thing here’s the thing instead of they putting handcuffs on Olivia as soon as they found out that she broke into the account well after she knew that her sister was dead they just had they just use her oh they just use her yeah listen a lot
Of people a lot of people wants to feel sorry for people that you don’t know if they hiding anything about this case even though they family members you don’t know like in a week just think about this for a second we talking about let’s say a few names
Let’s say a few names let’s say a few names right Adam Adam theor Showalter Lo Hunter Dylan Bethany Ethan’s Ethan’s sister Ethan’s brother uh mom dad of everyone brothers and sisters of everyone cousins from everyone enemies from everyone friends from everyone past ex-boyfriends boyfriends etc etc fraternity brothers and
Sisters fraternities and sororities they you see what I’m trying to tell you they these people belong to a so these people belong to a Greek community that this Greek Community sell to the people that your kids are safe here bring your kids here they will get the highest education
Ever and they will be safe right because they are part of this community well protected we are the very one 1% of humankind are the Elite yes how you going to tell me that this happened in this Elite Community because even the news station said that this is a very particular
Community this is the Greek like Community everyone that lives here belongs to this community so that whole block even the buildings next to and that whole block Kings R Queen row no r ray R is part of the whole thing of the Greek Council yeah it’s all the
University of Idaho everyone in there listen when they tell you do not do not mesh do not do not associate with locals when they tell you that that’s they mean that yeah and you get penal for that so that means that these unique students from these unique
Bundles they only mesch with B those it don’t matter if you are from the University of Washington they don’t mess with you unless it’s a fraternity meeting unless it’s a sorority meeting from B from universities that that there is a fraternity or sorority meeting that we cool yeah outside of
That we’re not supposed to mesch with no locals we know Outsiders that’s why when you bring cber to this case with what fundament you’re going to tell me that cber was part of this kids life or or or how cleberg can be linked to a community
That don’t have nothing to do with him when when when their own Community know do not match with Outsiders right how you gonna match with someone that he comes from Pennsylvania you don’t know nothing about you don’t know this guy you don’t know if he’s a FBI agent that
Could compromise the whole operation right and he hadn’t even been living there very long he had just three months three four months like oh my god listen he he in three months before this murder happened yeah two and a half to three months he got
There all these stuff that he had to do to get himself updated up to the classes that he’s about to follow now now now you’re also applying for Moscow and and pman PD now also you you are a a teacher’s assistant so you a teach teacher
Too y all these stuff that you got going on and as we speak for what I heard he was not late on none of his work right I yeah I haven’t heard that that that’s one thing I haven’t heard he had a master in criminal justice a degree on criminology a degree
On on on on psych and in Psychology got a degree on on on what what was that cloud dat uh forensics so you know this guy know about forensics what you talking about he tried to teach Pullman PD about forensics but you’re going to tell me a
Little spec of DNA is going to do it for him right how can you did not found DNA of cger nowhere not the car not the apartment not at his house not not not even in the trash can that you look for nothing you don’t have cold Burger DNA
The only thing that you use to say that it was cold Burger it was aund of 100 of his dad’s DNA so how his dad DNA is gonna hit a 100 over 100 to the spec on the N Chief how because it hits 100 over 100 cleberg dad did
It but you cannot frame him cuz he was in Pennsylvania oh but we GNA use IG shears said it was him drinking Joel no no and the same thing that they use to say was cleberg FBI told him hey make sure you don’t use this [ __ ] in
Court yeah so you literally didn’t have nothing because if you can’t use this in court you cannot use it for nothing not for uh not for a secret indictment you cannot use the IG you cannot use nothing you can’t even present that you can’t even mention IG at all how come everyone
Is talking about this I is it me is it me am I am I like I’m 47 am I too advanced or or is that is it me no no because then it would be me too and I’m eight years older than you big shout out to everyone in the chat
We’re having the best friend right now big shout out to Holly gosh yeah thank you and J I’m having a good time oh my god oh man so okay um let’s play a little bit of this let’s do that see what we can find out it’s gonna be a goody though
Okay all right sorry for the let me you want we are now on record this is State versus Ryan cob CR 2922 285 Mr cober is here in the courtroom he is represented by Miss Taylor and M nass uh Mr J uh hon is participating through Zoom uh the state is represented
By Bill Thompson Ashley Jennings Jeff NY and ingred batty um the proceedings I hope I think they are are live streaming through the Court’s uh YouTube channel uh so please do not attempt to record film or transmit during the procceedings I didn’t do that I swear
All right so we have uh some motions uh to address today uh and I thought we should f first go with the defendant’s motion to allow experts and investigators access to view IG information if that makes sense I think also the motion to clarify sealed order for disclosure of
IGT is so go ahead M Tor thank you that be so reading the states response I think the state has no objection to the three named experts having access to the sealed IGG materials or the material subject to protective order so I think what we’re really talking about is our
Investigative team for Brian’s Pace to have access to the IG materials I wanna I want to add a little time to that because I want to make sure the community I want to make sure the community understand what’s going on this staff that is working with her
Has done this in many other cases this is not their first rodeo so when an Taylor talk about consistency it’s like why we gonna get out of the norm for this case why we doing anything different that we haven’t done in other cases particular to this one that we have in
Hand why are we going to do anything different that we haven’t done before what I mean with that is the prosecution don’t have no problem with her staff looking into whatever they require but then at the same time with the same words they put blockages for that to
Happen that sounds a red flag right away why cuz because then now okay you agreed to let your staff do this and do that why she have to mention the names of that staff and why they have to declare what they about to do with that information because then now you telling
Me that you want to know the particular Nam of the investigators that are going to handle this and then now they got to show you their cards way before they go for checkmate right so you telling you’re telling you’re telling you’re telling an Taylor okay we cool with your staff to look
Into the evidence of the IGG but we need the names or who’s going to look into this when again it’s no name of any federal investigator in this like it’s just the the the the work if it’s any work there the work is there but he no
Name so who did the work yeah so why and Taylor have to show when she haven’t done it before looking for consistency looking for fairness and Norm let’s do this by how we has done it always yeah she still don’t have no problem giving them the names of the
People that he’s going to do this but something that an tell is not going to do is tell you what they going to do with that information yeah she’s not gonna tell you because then now now prosecution has to give you everything I know what defense don’t have to do
That what the defense has to get prosecution prosecution is prosecuted the defense don’t have to give you nothing I have to tell you nothing of that what they what you need to make sure you do your job to lock me up yeah that’s all you need to do you
You don’t need no names from defense you don’t need to know what the defense is going to do with that cuz at the end of the day way before the trial starts you will know what they got in hand yeah due to whatever you gave them whatever you gave them that’ll tell
You automatically because this is people that are well known very well experienced so for example when you get a discovery when prosecution give a discovery to defense they already know how the defense is going to attack this right exactly that’s why they’re lawyers they know they already know yeah
So there’s nothing that def fans have to share with you because you already know what’s coming and either way by the time that the before be before the trial starts they’re gonna do scrimmages okay this is what prosecution have this is what we have we’re ready to
Go outside of that nothing else is coming in or out right before trial they’ll have that hearing okay this is what prosecution has this is what the defense has let’s go right but but defense don’t have to send you nothing defense don’t have to tell you well uh
My investigators are going to talk to uh these and these and de people that he was on the IGG and we just want to know they don’t have to tell you that but prosecution is requesting the court to filter that information to like if whatever tactic they’re going to go
About they have to tell the court to then the court share with the prosecution and then see if the prosecution is okay with that where do you see that good Lord that no no no is it me no that’s not is it me I’m just trying to share this is so
It’s this is so screwed up it’s is so you’re going to see right you’re going to see right now Holly you’re going to see right now in the way an Taylor because you could see her Poise you can see her Poise you can see in the way
She’s delivering um listen if if I was an Taylor oh I’m jiling and screaming in court I’m listen Colberg shut up listen and listen and create chaos it’s like how in the F this old dude looking like Santa Santa Claus looking is how we here how we
Here how we here how wants to know it’s like how these men been locked up for a year you went and got him right away he’s been locked up for a year I have requested this discovery 13 times why we here thank you for the check though I take the
Check high five I see you in the clubhouse right but why we here you you just you just literally giving me giving me a a whatch youall it a Ascension a a a a a promotion like you’re actually promoting me to take your job Bill Bill Thompson yeah
Literally that’s what they do and she could go like from from from public defender to prosecut her yeah yeah and she knows that and she knows that she know if if she literally dunk on on the state in this case or she know all the all the floodgates of money is Gonna
Come her way you oh she knows that oh yeah so it’s like I’m I’m saying like I’m saying like so white people think that she’s so dumb when when she know who who she’s playing with yeah she know who she’s playing with and don’t you tell you’re not nobody G to tell
Me nobody going to tell me that this is not a doggy dog world right it don’t matter if y in the same Clubhouse if I could get one on you and get on top of you and just just go above you after this I’m that’s exactly
What I’m gonna do either don’t matter we SE the same juice it don’t matter if we we see the same people it don’t matter if you you my my my family member or whatnot I’mma get one of you if I have the opportunity of it on that world that
They live in the league that prosecutors and and you know uh Defenders and stuff like that lawyers judges and and that whole world it’s Doggy Dog it don’t matter if they from the same Clubhouse they will get one on you for example if Bill tonson messed up this case just just going for
Cleberg with nothing oh an Taylor is going to make his retired Liv in hell I just told I just told my community on my channel don’t be surprised if Bill Thomson retired way before this case start way before trial start Chief fry left yeah Green is about green is about
To leave he knows that I know that and Bill Thompson is’s already about to get retired he’s not going to wait until the end of this trial he said [ __ ] this [ __ ] yall going to handle that yourself I’m going to the Bahamas we are Bahama Mama yeah yes and he he’s been there
Just recently or wherever the hell he was yeah yeah yeah like Mexico that but um what was I gonna say so yeah what I’m sorry I I interrupt you you’re gonna see that now she her her her Poise in the way she’s talking to the
Judge because again if he me I I I listen I’ve been whing out in there nothing Ain nothing that you could do cuz I’m here for this you have to take it you know what I’m saying like they they they talk in court all very polite nice and polite oh that’s them yeah
She’s way she’s way too nice oh I seen I seen listen I seen lawyers cursing the prosecution like like what the [ __ ] you doing I have seen him cursing the prosecution like what the [ __ ] you doing like why we here oh I would I just I wish she would
Do that let me know let me know whenever you’re ready to play I’m ready go ahead oh you gonna hear and you’re gonna hit Bill Thomson oh but you know they saying we try to kill someone oh God I know why you even address that oh why you even
Address that it didn’t matter what he said it don’t matter why he said you don’t address that you you you you leave it in the air in court because soon as you addressed it they’re going to hang from it and he did oh my god listen we’re gonna love
This and the state has objected to that thank you they’ve objected in part because they are not named in our motion so I want to address that first you honor they are not named and I can name them that’s not a problem but the reason I didn’t is based on consistency these
Same investigators have had access to the grandury materials to assist us in the case they’ve had access to other things subject to protective order and they’re not named in those they have access those three there’s three items subject to other protective order and that’s medical information from hospitals that’s University of Idaho
Records and most recently police procedures they haven’t been required to be named and orders in any of those when she said police procedures Bill Thompson ears was Like he already know He already know soon as and tell be like so how did you clear 40 plus suspects exactly can we well I have in all these paperwork that you gave me I cannot see no investigation from none of these individuals because a interview is not an investigation you have to
Spend at least two to three months within warrants for everyone’s houses yeah what are you talking about we talking about the same way they depuff didy they will raise all the houses at once exactly what you mean what people act like this doesn’t happen when you have 40 plus suspects
Even though if they listen I don’t care what mosco PD don’t call a suspect soon crime occurred and cops got there the first people would be handled was Bethany and Dyan Bethany would Bethany would have snitch on Dylan right there and then Dyan would have have to snitch on The
Killers right there and then because they don’t want the the tight handcuffs and be behind the booth they know this I know they know this if they would listen soon as soon as Dylan said like oh yeah I I I I I went to sleep [Laughter]
What you went to sleep for seven and a half hours to eight hours it what she said we slipt through it all on the first floor so now you saying you was in Bethany’s room cuz you cannot say you was in the room cross Bethany cuz that’s
A that’s a uh storage that’s a storage even the bed in that room is against the wall Ethan’s golf clothes was there and it was all a mess in there you you cannot so so you obviously telling the cops that you fell asleep in Bethany’s room the whole night what you was doing
In Bethany’s room I would like to know but you said that right okay she said that right she slipt through it all she didn’t see she didn’t hear nothing right what she said two weeks after two days two days after I talked to mosco PD letting them know that a guy
From from a a content creator jron P from Ohio knows everything and this is what you’re not doing and this is the people and this is why take a look at this camera this person was there the whole timeline that this person give you is not correct it’s
A reason why it’s not correct you cannot make a timeline out of cell phone data you have to make a timeline out of actual facts right exactly and what the witnesses or survivors told them and what she said what she said two days after that oh no I was on
The second floor in my room hearing and seeing things that’s where she messed up yeah but a problem but he’s a problem soon as she said that even though you didn’t pull her in handcuffs the same day you were supposed to put her in handcuffs the same day she
Said that cuz then now you’re changing your Alibi yeah that’s a change of Alibi in the middle of an investigation that’s a red flag right away MOS PD needed to lock her up right away and and if she don’t want to talk that’s your problem baby boo now
You’re going for the murders of these people because if you don’t want to talk now you are the Killer and if you’re not the killer you enable The Killing and you enable the covering of it oh she don’t want that oh she don’t want that she wanted to be in twitch
Playing playing games and [ __ ] and it makes me wonder too um you know I hate to say this but had it have been two guys there I they rather than the girls you know I think we might be have have a whole different scenario because remember the guys has full this the
Fraternity boys they have full control of that home are the ones in power it’s not the girls it’s a sorority house right some people I heard I heard I heard I heard because you know I heard everything I heard this one person saying that she used to go
And hang out in that house and d d d years ago and that was a fraternity house I CAU on a lie that house is being a sorority house for the longest so we have people coming to content creators bringing a lie to them telling telling the listen the content
Creators get excited when they hear these lies oh for real you was in the house you hang out with them tell me [Laughter] more soon as this this alleged person that used to hang out with him said that that house was a fraternity house uh few years ago I was like you
Lying cuz that house is been a sorority house for the longest not a fraternity house yes fraternity boys run the house yeah they have full control of it to the point that they that’s their hangout spot yeah when no one is there exactly it it’s like it’s
Like it’s like all the females in the house are their females yeah so so now we we the hand hot shows we we the boys I mean if you realize is sororities are the baby boos of the fraternities yeah that’s where all these marriages these fabricated marriages and
All these influential couples come all about from influential families that’s how they match together within the sorian fraternity environment because who’s in who’s in the fraternity house when when those parties pop up there sority girls who’s the one getting drunk and doing everything on the book The sority
Girls hey they’re only there to get their mrss degree yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no and make sure they get a good baby daddy someday you know they they need to make sure they they get a rich guy take care of them in in case their degree doesn’t fall
Anywhere but I’m a Sil I’m a better listen man I don’t I don’t I don’t really listen I don’t wna I don’t want to talk bad about young adults looking for a higher education okay yeah but cause Al least they doing a little better than all juveniles out there okay so we have
To command what they doing and and hopefully they do better in life yeah but the unfortunate truth is these fraternities and sororities none of them when they party they don’t sit down and read the Bible no they don’t sit down and sing Kumbaya nope they play the dirtiest
Drill rap music that they could found they play the most satanic music that they could found and they don’t do nothing but drink smoke do drugs and fornicate yep that’s it okay let’s keep it real because we can’t we can’t be he and covering the
Sun with with with a palm of the hand because you cannot cover the sun with a palm of the hand you know so so especially within that University right other universities probably are different but this is information that is facts MH and that University of Idaho
Anyone could tell you about that this is nothing new right this is nothing new about what was going on in that house yeah ain’t nothing new okay it’s not like we we victim blaming or nothing because no one deserve what happened to them no no okay but the reality is that
It was out of control situations that were happening and it was entity with it was guys within the fraternities that are loose cannons that they think they’re Above the Law cuz Mom Dad Uncle etc etc etc or if I [ __ ] up they’re gonna back me
Up yep and then you wh while you in these drugs and these hallucinated drugs and smoking you little something laced up and stuff you get let’s say for example you’ve been having something cooking in your heart for a long time you’ve been cooking of it this
Person say one more thing I love her will say one more thing if I catch her doing this or if I if she cheat on me this is this is a rap it’s gonna be hurting everyone in that house and we know there was a very upset boyfriend [Laughter] two of them
Two right two and one of them it was so cool with the family members with one of them CU he knew that he ain’t no good he ain’t no good it don’t matter if you’re in college it don’t matter if you’re looking for a higher level of
Education but but you as a person as a human being you’re not stable you you you you have so many insecurities about you like the only thing that it makes you secure of anything is your family’s position in life yeah because you know you you as a person
Emotionally you’re not there yeah he sounds like my ex-husband listen it’s a lot of guys I’m G say you listen it’s a lot I’m 47 years old and listen it’s a lot of guys that go through a lot like females and guys go a lot through in in life right but I
Got to say it’s some guys that if they don’t have the proper foundation and when I mean Foundation is knowing right from wrong sometimes you have to go through certain s situations in life that that really hit home for you to come back to reality
Right and and be like wow like life is is actually different than what I thought and and that could only happen when you hit rock bottom emotionally or or or or you know and financially um when those situations come all about where where where your cloth it gets put to the
Test that’s when you really know who you are right and I’mma put myself as an example in life I have I have seen bullets fly by me I I have I have been put a gun under my chin I had I had going through mad things I
Had lost money I had make money I have I have been divorced twice with kids in a relationship like stuff they will crumble any other man you know I I’ve been in relationship since very young my teen years you know that I remember even in middle school I
Have friend that my my grandma used to take me to her house and visited her at the porch with her mom and dad there you know present and I was in Middle School so I’ve been going through relationships I I have gotten my my heartbroken I have
Broke Hearts you know I I have going through situations that for all the males they would have put a bullet on their head or they would kill someone else yeah that’s when you know your cloth that that’s where when you know where you stand with God that’s when you know
The type of human you actually are when you could go through those situations keep your chin up and just let it be because ain’t nothing that we could do okay baby girl you going to leave all right cool listen homie and night times out of 10 back
Then in those days I didn’t care cuz she’s saying goodbye and I’m going right next door to her best friend but who people talking to plan A B C D E F G I got many potatoes potatoes yeah what I’m talking about it’s like this is why you know when
Incels the word incel came from a a a female that created the the whole stigma of it was it a female yeah but then but then it literally it literally got attached to males yeah I don’t know like what listen whatever male is a inel he don’t know nothing about life like he
He no no listen I cannot believe no male no male no male that that at least have a a a simple common sense like myself like dude like if your girlfriend left you it don’t matter if she slept with your best friend you was sleeping with her best friend
Anyway like you mad at what for oh what she got pregnant by by by one of your known friends the FR for the fraternity well you already have two kids that she didn’t know about you know what I’m trying to tell you like it’s it’s no way that I could
See a guy like myself understanding what the word insult means to another man cuz men not try to 10 when when we up and young in like when listen when I was in college let’s say for the mercy of God let’s say for example if this was
Something again I’m not saying that this is what happened and I’m not saying that I know what happened but let’s say this murder happened because failures within relationships yeah toxic toxic relationship you either M of no one’s yeah or you’re going to take my doct to
Texas what yeah what that’s my son yeah I pay cash for my dog what you talking about you gonna take my dog and now she’s calling you hey come and get your [ __ ] dog and you know she’s calling you to get you the [ __ ] dog she don’t want to know nothing about
You no more oh you don’t ask to the phone but you get there and soon as you get there she stopped calling cuz you got there cuz then now she’s talking to the person she needed to talk to yeah I found that very interesting very she her phone and her from her friend’s
Phone yep because she needed to talk to him because obviously whatever she told Adam in the bar it was that serious yes it was and she wanted to take and she wanted to take his temperature she knew in the back of her head that he told her way back there did
You [ __ ] on me I’ll kill you yep yeah exactly because those I always knew those were frantic calls and then she went and she used her friend’s phone you know maybe to see if he’d answer then you know yeah and don’t her mom said her sister said she’s a power caller she
Will not stop calling you until you text back call back or she see you wow when they said that I was like it’s a rap yes that’s all I needed to know yeah and it came out of her mom’s mouth damn also came out of her mom
Mouth oh yeah she left him for no reason yeah she was she was just being a brat so if it was for no reason that she was being a bread you know how crazy that man was yeah have y seen pictures of that of that young lady in IG she
Look like a model God bless her soul she was a little chubbier people were saying that she was pregnant by the time she died and that was why she was gut at because the whatever baby she had it would rip it off from her and stuff like
That well that’s over there for CH leave that there yeah it’s a possibility but we don’t know right it could have happened we don’t know we don’t know yeah and if he was a baby inside of her then it be Idaho five instead of four exactly cuz again we do know that she
Got gutted that’s a fact yeah she got gutted and when I mean gutted is all you guts out why if you’re not looking for anything in there yeah people I know this is very touchy and and sentimental topics very taboo is but if we don’t talk about this how we going to
Make sense of whatever the [ __ ] that people’s talking talking about this case right all the people that oh my God I don’t want to say if he’s guilty or innocent why if you have pay attention to this case since day one you know for a fact that even a
Kopaka could have got killed just because he didn’t want to cooperate with MOS and Pullman for him to get framed for his death because he didn’t want to put a stain and a dishonor on a Purple Heart right just because he got a white HRA too yeah he did
Just he got he got collection of kns yeah just because he had a PTSD just because he had probably tumor or something he got this is the easiest person that we could utilize to frame when they got there he knew he he was about to die God so it was so sad he
Seen Brett pay outside he see fry outside he knew right then then that he was about to get framed he did not cooperate and he got shot by the sniper from across the road I bet you they went in there laughing like well you know what’s going
To happen you either go cooperate you die kill me then yeah he’s not he’s a military man with a purple heart you’re not goingon to put a disgrace at that level in the military of United States of America for some [ __ ] that you want to do oh and they clear all the
Cops they clear everyone no foul play no nothing but he knew he was about to die that day yeah because he knew soon it was no reason for mosco py to be there pman py got their own their own SWAT team they have enough members mosco py got 35
Officers why you gonna take 20 officers from 35 to go to Pullman for what when pman got swap pman have more police than you yeah he listen kopaka knew when he seen pman uh mosc P out there he knew what what it was all about he hasn’t already
Talking about a white HRA by the time this happened he has a white anantra he’s known BK yep they knew about his about his pts from Pennsylvania from far away so you could you could you could stick this case to this to this guy for for his
PTSD and stuff like that and create a whole thing especially when you are trying to arrest the guy saying that he has his roommates kidna in the apartment where it was no one inside of the apartment nope so how are you going to say that that that this per this person had roommates
In his apartment kidnapped when it was no one there so you’re already prepping the stage to stick him the the Ido four case yeah it was very somehow if COA would give up and be like just do what you want with me the IG the the the DNA on that sheath would be
Kakas and not C Burgers exactly exactly but he didn’t cooperate it he didn’t want to put a stain on the military and the Purple Heart that means a lot for them uhuh so he said okay kill me then yeah I bet you he probably thought
That the guy was about to pull a gun right there and shoot him no probably when he says so kill me then he got shot right there and down in the head by a 50 cow head blown up yeah I think he was already gone uh had
Been shot be when that that SWAT was going in I think that that he was already gone but you see here and there here and there is something fishy with that yeah it was very fishy very fishy especially in the way they cleared that so quick yeah like like all the officers
Didn’t have no rundoing and stuff and then like from one from one BK that didn’t work now you went and got another BK that you interview didn’t save the recording of that interview so we don’t know what you spoke to him you had him walk you you had him in
Pull man for a whole month with the same things that you presenting in court at this day today but you waited for him to go to a schedule which in that interview I promise you told them CU this is why the recording of that interview is
Not there cuz obviously he told mosco PD I’m going back home for vacation I will be back yep they knew he was leaving so they waited for him to leave to then call him as an abing fugitive lied to the court say like this guy is running
Away cuz what we have here in hand but we have here in hand we’ve been having for a whole month and we never could have come here to you judge to come and get this guy because now what what we got has weight due to now he’s running away from yeah
Prosecution yep when the guy told you I have and schedule going back home my daddy’s coming to pick me up and we going back home yeah that’s why the interview records is nowhere to be found cuz I promise you I know that he had to tell listen he had to
Tell him CU he know already he know already how big this case is he was already try to get into the investigation of that case yeah you know what I mean so by the time now now they interviewing you now you’re like oh well I’mma tell you what you need to
Know bu bu bu bu bu bu bu bu and knowing what we know in a way these guy how eloquent he talked so you could see those police contacts and the way he spoke very smoothly very articulated bum bum bum everything just just by the
Book I bet you in that interview he was double triple more on point because he knew that now they talking to you because they think that you might be the guy y so now you know he’s talking to you like sharp like n and just so you know I’m going to
Vacation to p Pennsylvania so if you need me this is my phone number and da d d da this is where I’m going to be located that’s how they knew where he was because he already told him where he was about to go and stuff like that
Exactly you know what I mean if you would have have records of that interview you would not have a cold Burger on your hands right no no we wouldn’t um and it cracked me up too because um that Nancy Grace show they were still saying that um or no they
Were at one of them actually said that he was he was escaping with his father like what the hell escaping what he was going home for the holidays listen man they talking about all he went all the way to Colorado he didn’t have to go all the way to Colorado to go
But what about if he wanted to go and hang out with his dad going probably buy some something and smoke in Colorado to then go to Pennsylvania like we don’t know this we don’t know if he just wanted to go to Colorado cause because his dad and him got probably family
Family members over there and then he wanted to just take the highway straight to to Pennsylvania from up there like we don’t know none of this we don’t know why he went all the way to Colorado do you think if he was running away he would have go [Laughter]
Home no listen that one time that I was run away that I was running away by the time I went back home because I knew few hours after I get home I would have get they would have break the house exactly so first place they’re going to go that’s the
Only reason why I went back home because I was ready to go in you know what I mean so ain’t no fugitive just gonna run away from the Lord to go home oh you’re not you’re not going to find me in this gated community F out of
Here I appreciate you so much for having me here today oh man it is such a treat to have you it really is so going back to the tape all right uh we’re gonna hear now how an Taylor is articulating uh the reasons why you know
They’re ready to go ready to see the the IG but then now the prosecution put all the blockages of want names and what they going to do with it and who going to talk to and all these other stuff and so for consistency I did the
Same thing but we can name them if that is a sticking point I would note that the members of the FBI that did the analysis are not named in materials either right you honor the reason why our investigators are important to have access to the IG IG materials is because
Of the kind of case this is and the kind of invest vation that were required to launch in the case we have to have investigators on a death penalty case and we have them these materials or these items in the IGG binder those are things that we may
End up filing motions in for in order to prepare for those we rely on our investigators to help us with side tasks with big tasks with all of the tasks they say they say the lead to Colberg was the IG but how can you have the the they
Didn’t they had him his name before you see what I’m saying when what what they hiding is the fact that they focus on him just for for the fact of focusing on someone outside of the community yeah someone that he had a white hel Lantra that he was away from the
Community but why no one is talking about the Jack deor has a white alantra around the same time on his dad’s name but they don’t mention that c because he got clear because he got Alibi oh yeah no no his Alibi is not even legal in court because I went through The Alibi
Procedure in in Idaho and he’s Alibi is a friendly Alibi from a fap boy oh really they own Allegiance and loyalty to them to each other it’s like your friends your family anyone that he has attachments or loyalty to you in court that don’t is not is not granted
In court so how they Grant an alibi that is not even useful in court how can they Grant D mortenson’s A change of Alibi so that you automatically telling the cops that you liee on your first Alibi soon as you change your Alibi it’s a red flag automatically oh
Oh hold on I got come on turn around turn around soon as she feel the last click she be like I tell you I tell you the it was Jo walk I’m sorry I’m sorry I really hope that happens because that be so awes I’m telling you it was the it was the
Only way that they knew this female would have crack and snitch on everyone yeah cuz soon as they put handcuffs on her they put pressure on her why you think that the Bethany is not even on the victim report yeah that’s she said I don’t want nothing to do with
This leave me alone I’m lucky I’m still alive yeah I wonder why Bethany was didn’t nothing happen to her yep cuz if you ask me Dean knew what was going on absolutely this is the problem that we have at this day today with this
Case D knew who did it D knew how it happened why it happened you already didn’t like the victims so you didn’t care about whatever they were about to do with you as long as he’s not with you you don’t care nothing about that we don’t know at this day
Today if Dylan took part on the killing right we don’t know Dylan has infatuation with knives and killing yep he had an infatuation with knives with with with with swords with with stuff like that she dressing as that white lady they like to paint her white dress in blood
Yep you know what I’m saying so you’re going to tell me you’re going to tell me that the knowing what was going on and knowing that now everyone is part of this and you people is killing the people that you don’t like and you know everyone is in
Caho you’re not going to tell me that you didn’t took a blow at them yeah you’re not going to tell me that they make sure that you took a blow at them just to make sure that they have you as a killer too that’s right because then now if you
Talk and you snitch on me you going down I would say Dean took a blow too absolutely while they were still alive she took payback on whatever she hated them for yeah this is why I believe somehow somehow Bethany’s out of this but I don’t know how I don’t either but I
Agree she was there want to be in part of it if she was there the only reason that she could have survived that it was if her male boyfriend was there ripped Up the only way that her boyfriend was there with her while Dean and the other ones yeah is the only way that Bethany could have survived and it was if her boyfriend was there interesting and he had to be gripped up and he had to be gripped up cu if not
That they would they it don’t matter if he was there they would have got killed this is why I’m saying that he was a gun in the house somewhere from somebody someone had a gun in the house to protect themselves yeah and I notied that that they talking about D’s
Boyfriend was in the vicinity they say oh he got called to come over no no he was dead already they took pictures around the same time the killing Happ happened yeah you know what I mean so your boyfriend was there allegedly her boyfriend is a little drug dealer so I could only
Articulate that he probably had a a blicky with him probably bet and his boyfriend somehow might be part of the same Inner Circle of the guys and somehow this is why Bethany was not hurt you know what I’m saying yep but then now Bethany don’t want nothing to
Do because let’s say she don’t have nothing to listen I don’t know I don’t I didn’t no I don’t know nothing she probably know who did it and she know everything but she like due to that she just is just is no proof of her knowing or nothing because I guess her
Alibi is sealed tight because she didn’t change her alibi no she didn’t she said dude I went asleep by the time I woke up I I passed out when I see everything was going on because actually they said that Bethany found the bodies yeah they were saying no it was
Hunter Hunter how to open the door because Dy was behind the door at listen Dyan was outside of the door they found Dyan between the door frame in the bathroom you mean Ethan yeah yeah Ethan yeah he was not inside of the door holding the door with his body dead no are you
Serious who who thought that anyone would have believed that cuz I didn’t what when when we seen we seen on footage officers looking down like right there and he right there outside of the between the door frame and the bathroom yeah and then Santa they got her her
Room and then they found the two girls upstairs right okay so this case is so particular that we could articulate that whatever lies they talk about no one believed them but the problem is the people that do believe them the people EMP power the ones this n to go because in my personal
Opinion this this footage right here it tells everything of what’s going to happen in the future because even though even though suprior Court wants to keep this between the the the the level where he’s at right now they just gonna let these play out in the local
Court okay and if it’s any discrepancies the suprior court need to look at they will do so but they want the process to go through as planet right the problem here is that by the time it gets to court and all these pret pant out what are they going to do if they
Don’t work if they don’t found cold burger if they don’t put this stain on cold burger what are they gonna do are they gonna go back or they just gonna leave it they just gonna leave it like well it’s cold now Y no they right here you’re going to hear on
Taylor like she just like well we would need to utilize our experts if our investigators can’t have access to the materials they’ll have to be shut out of those meetings with those experts and they’ll have to be shut out of court proceedings that we might launch related to those material that’s
What they want they want everybody out of all proced our constitutional duties in Brian’s case his rights to have effective assistance of counil to have a full investigation to have a fair trial we have to have investigators those investigators are on board and have been on board and they help us understand
Things that are given to us by the state they help us find witnesses they help us find experts and they’re necessary to be part of the conversation of what the IGG materials are and what they mean this matters in figuring out how Mr coburger ends up on the police radar and subject
To these proceedings here I know we’ve talked about this before and I still don’t have all of those answers she said we still don’t have those those answers of why we here how did you get to my client can you just tell me how you do a
Secret indictment and you get this guy here yeah just just tell me that I’ll be happy to articulate whatever you want me to articulate but can you please tell me how we got here some people people can we talk about uh the the uh suspicions of his sister cor cooperating we with
Authorities and stuff like that can we can we enter on those conversations yeah cause I yes if if you as a family member let’s say if I have a family member that say I committed murder right so if they go on shared that to authorities authorities still have to
Investigate that if whatever I’m saying has any fundament cuz oh I was searching on his car but he cleaned his car with [Laughter] bleach he clean his car terally with bleach so you’re gonna tell me all his rugs and seats were stained with bleach lot de color e the color all
Rugs de color seats de color because that’s what bleach does when you clean something with bleach you decoloring the area and I’m pretty sure the inside of his car was like a black even like a darkish color yeah a darkish color so that would have been spotty listen soon soon soon as the
Officers open like just not the heck we opening his door soon as they look inside they see all those white spots everywhere they like yeah we got them we got them we got them we got them we got them we got them high fives and [ __ ]
High fives and [ __ ] like yeah we knew it right we knew we knew this [ __ ] all along we knew that so all that stuff all those lies about about you know his sister cooperating it’s nothing that his sister could have cooperated in this case because if he comes home and he
Acting weird and he clean his car detail his car he clean it with bleach he did it what the cops still have to investigate this is what I’m saying why is it everything that they did looks frame I cuz let’s say let’s say if you use her his
Sister let’s say if that’s what you used to focus on him his sister right the only thing that you had was DNA from his dad that hit 100 from a 100 for you to get that return it’ll take at least a month for you to get
That return yep they got cold Burger in the week and a half yeah not even not even I know because they knew in December 29th I think December 29th they knew about all these stuff and then he was already back in Idaho what like in the beginning the first
Week of the the next month yep and I found a breakdown a little like chart of how the process goes in Pennsylvania for extradition and you found it I oh I can’t believe it did you watch that video I mean it’s so much and you know they didn’t do
It I have the chart actually I’m I’mma send it to you uh because I want to make sure that he’s the same one I’m G send you the one that I have just to make sure that it’s the same one you have uh I’m do that in a little bit
Later on okay but in this chart when when he gets arrested about whatever probable cause the Idaho has right now that after they get him that has to go automatically to the office of the governor’s councel they have to do a process to that they need to certify that the
Reasons that Idaho has to get this Pennsylvania resident out of jurisdiction is is substantial it just has to have a merit yeah then after those merits get found if is any then the governor has to put a Governor’s warrant on this guy to rearrest BR cber on the governor’s
Warrant and then all these other proed and stuff did they skip all that they skip I don’t know how can you skip something that it comes from the governor’s office I don’t know but I’ll tell only only they in cahoot yeah I mean yeah you’re right only they in caho
Is the only way that you could skip such a legal process just with that legal loopo Colberg could walk today if an Taylor bring it to the table to the court and be like hold on we have a guy here the the whole process for extradition even though if he want to
Skip the process of extradition that’s a process by itself that the government has to do that doesn’t have nothing to do with Colberg decisioning about his case right it’s procedures that they need to take place to make it legal for an extradition to take place and it has to come out of the
Governor’s office and it didn’t right so how are we here no way I have no idea it just it says may off I believe today with our experts getting access we’re going to make some Headway with that but we also need our investigators to be part of those
Discussions as well again your honor if their names appearing in a court order is an issue that we’ll do that we’ll do that you see she don’t care she like I’ll give you what you want but we’ll do that and be subject to the protective order just like we are and they’ll abide
By it just like they’ve done for the other protective materials they’ve had access to and while we’re on that line if the court wants me to talk about the clarification I can do that let’s let’s uh let’s hear for from the state first before the state before the state uh
Elaborates uh I want to send a shout out to Mr Sentinel I want to make sure Mr Sentinel big shout outs to you thank you for being here very appreciated thank you so much I want to uh elaborate on that that you said that Jud judge has the answers because he’s reading the
Discovery false just just don’t even have the discovery he don’t have no he he got he got what an Taylor has yeah he got like the IG stuff the full script of it but that’s not what an Taylor is talking about faris’s discover that’s what I’m saying I don’t know if
Uh Mr Sentinel know what Discovery is but uh yeah the IG procedures is part of the discovery but the IG procedures is not the whole Discovery no so yeah just judge has the IG information he he have gone through it but he don’t even know what he’s looking at
He looked at it for a month he he he he looked at it just to uh make sure that the paperwork is finalized properly yeah but he don’t know what’s there he don’t know how they broke the atoms to MIT match this and we could just create this one
Atom and you just going to make the DNA to fix the facility of the mentality or persons that want to think whatever they want to think because we told them too and by the time you realize everybody’s walking like zombies over here he’s [Laughter] guilty so now that prosecution is going to
Elaborate on the on the defense uh expose I mean I understand the having investigators I think what we’re talking about though is just with the IGG that we have to be especially careful about you know who’s going to have the access of what they’re going to do with it uh I
Think uh I agree um it’s clear that the state has no objection to the three experts that because they can object so I don’t think that’s a problem but let me go to what Miss Miss Denny’s thank you uh that’s correct J and your honor is familiar and aware of the materials
That we’re discussing and you’re also aware um of the sensitive nature of those materials the state is really just following the Court’s lead in your protective order were you named specifically who on the defense team would be allowed to have access did she just say that she’s following the courts lead yep he’s
Over the this is an exclusive for Holly Martin let’s Fu we Holly Martin this is an exclusive only here in holy Martin you get this content oh she really said that didn’t she yeah yep thank you handsome so love you so so can we say can we said just cuz
What she said right there is is is a just judge actually telling prosecution what’s the status because then that that gonna make me think that now the court is the court and just judge is compromised go how how how if you ask me prosecution needed to be the
Lead on that yeah not the judge no that the judge is supposed to be on bias exactly he’s supposed to be well let’s have clarification let’s have uh transparency let’s just make sure that we’re gonna have something on seal and whatnot but then now big shout out to John
Judge yeah but then now you’re going to tell me that when she said that J just judge is the one hiding his hand can we play that again so I don’t think that’s a problem but let me go to what Miss Denny’s thank you uh that’s correct joh and your honor
Is familiar and aware of the materials that we’re discussing and you’re also aware um of the sensitive nature of those materials the state is really just following the Court’s lead in your protective order so the court saying that they want transparency in this case but the court
Is the one putting protective orders and they are the want the they are set in the pace of how everything is going to go with that let’s continue for you named specifically who on the defense te would be allowed to have access they just got follows that if we’re going to expand
That access that those individuals need to be specifically named and it’s really going to be the only way the court can have control of any unauthorized dissemination is to know exactly who was given privy what was enclosed so at a bare minimum we need to know who is
Going to be who it’s going to be given over to um your December 29th sealed order also said that um any further dissemination of materials or the information contained within the materials including to the investigator experts must be approved by the court after a showing by the defense as to why
Such individual needs the information to make a defense for what else they want to look at this paper for what oh my go how did you get to my client I’m sorry I it make me sick to my stomach it make me puke I can’t do it I can’t do it listen
I couldn’t be on Taylor I would got up right there D like what the [ __ ] you talking about [Laughter] lady that comment right there it was as stupid is as Jud judge when he said like but who’s right we violating here who’s right we violating while you laughing B in butthead
Can we see what’s going on here it’s like they throw the ball to the judge and the just throw the ball back at them like we good we got This I can’t I can’t listen listen I started with the Kylie Rodney case and I was like getting literally I was getting sick he was like a this element of this bad juju yeah yeah with the Kylie Rodney case and it was bad juju behind it yeah and I got sick like literally
Physically sick for a long time which I still still getting out of that now because I guess I left the case alone for a little bit for now yeah but then I come and this Idaho for right when it happened because I said in the Kylie Rodney case
Listen I’m not no nostr no true crie nostros but I could be I said the Kylie ronne case they gonna find they listen something is gonna happen soon and I said that while while covering the Kylie Brodney case I said something is about to happen soon for us
To take the focus from the Kylie Brodney case to something else I said that not even a week after I said that I happened and soon as that happened oh I was Like eyes and ears I make some phone calls I listen I said Moder moderators had it I was like fetch oh blood hounds big shout out to Amy Conway and big shout out to all all the other the moderators on on our Channel we got Amy Conway here that’s
Big CeCe love you so much thank you for being here yes Amy thank you but um I I was like fetch time they came back I was like uh oh uh oh and I was like oh okay like that okay all right and then do some other homeworks myself and this and this
And that by the time I was done in two weeks of Investigation two weeks two weeks I lay it all out to MOS PD everything M you know what I don’t know if you have ever give tips to law enforcement but everyone knows that when you saying something to
The cops that is out of pocket or you just saying something that you just have a hunch but you don’t know nothing because when they do cross reference you just you don’t know what to say do hang up thank you for calling have a great
Day we got all the call to take care of how great they click right I spoke with these people like for 45 [Laughter] minutes I bet you they because I told him I’m a content creator this is my name I live here this is my YouTube channel D watch the content over there
If you you know whatever I can tell you now it’s on my content and whatnot they started cross referencing the reasons why I’m saying what I’m saying mhm and I was saying you recording this right yeah we recording this okay cool cuz I knew Listen by the time I
Called them I already knew they were part of the [ __ ] yeah they recorded you but they forgot to record their interview with Brian right right here’s the problem by the time I decided to call was when and I knew that they were behind some [ __ ] some people going to say jro you
Evil yes I am in the name of the Lord Jesus thank you amen yes I am I’m the type of Joker I’m the type of Joker that I know you did it I would laugh I know you did it you can’t do nothing cuz you can think about this for
Less than that a tick tocker got a lawsuit for less than that yes for less than that in this I have put mosco PD the family members I have put Mr Green and staff no season this is they have called me before to hey can
You take this video down I mean it’s a little too much I mean right right all right cool because that was the video that I told you IIA G I I I’ll lay her ass down I was like like you’re not going to tell me you did this this this this and that
This and that but you didn’t did this other other ding ding ding ding ding who’s your baby daddy so yeah I was like all right cool I’ll take it down but you know you owe me one and that’s and this is how I’ve been having the chance to speak with Captain Dinger
With Brett pay with all these other people cause because I cooperated I’ve been cooperating since day one yeah you know and even though they went the opposite way of what I told them I keep calling them to just torture them and be like you know I know
Right and you ain’t nothing that you could do you might as well kill me and for you to do that oh you’re gonna have a batt oh it’s gonna be bad for you you have no idea you’re gonna have to kill me you because you you can’t you can’t go legal
Illegal with me because then now if you want to go after me in il legal illegal on my Discovery y’all getting exposed you don’t want that you don’t want that you don’t want why I say what I you don’t want the reasons of what I’m saying what I’m saying in court you
Don’t want me talking to a Taylor you don’t want me talking to your judge y’ get my phone calls because y’all know yall don’t want me to start keep keep digging more into it right and then start pulling really some crazy ass receipt that y’all don’t want to see they don’t want that
[ __ ] listen people be like oh jro why you don’t show receipt well what I’m telling you is not receipt enough that everything I have tell you since day one has come listen look at where we at right now this cour this this look at where we at right now with
This hearing right here everybody was like yeah cber is cook even big shout out to my to my brother from another mother speak V holding big shout out to you bro but even you know you wrong bro he said cber is Cook oh he cook he out
Of here he out of here how in the heck he out of here when it’s been a whole year and and prosecution can come forward with everything they oh we have so many uh government agency not [ __ ] cuz when you went and got him when you went and got
Him you have to give me why you got them and what I have here is not what this PCA telling me nope why we here why we keep talking about cber and cber still locked up he’s the one eating books in there listening to everyone saying oh yeah he a
Cannibal all right he’s an inel oh yeah he clean his car he scrub his car clean with bleach oh yeah he put the cameras on his friend’s apartment that actually that friend trusting him enough that please can you help me out because I have this problem this and this and that can you
Help me up with cameras in my house this and that yeah go ahead I got you no worry P this guy was a security guard at one point this guy wanted to be law enforcement at one point yeah you gonna tell me you’re gonna you’re gonna get a
Masters on criminal justice you’re going to eat those book just to oh be the best killer you want to be oh my god so let’s say if it was true that he was in drug use way back in the days right so he beat the
Odds oh and well while he was in drugs he didn’t have no police contact in four counties right nothing in four counties only a 911 call for him to get out of the park cuz he was running a little bit too late for the Rangers to come and open
The gates for him to get his car out besides that not even the phone that they said that he stole from his sister is nowhere to be found and then they said oh they they sponged that they sponged that they they sponged that but you know that the
Arrest record will still be there right cuz even though whatever sentence is in court okay might get disappear you still have an arrest record yeah you still have a police contact you still have a police contact and record for that day that you said that he stole the
Cell phone it’s nothing there right but they want to push all these Nar Ri so let’s say if he was in drugs and doing that bad right so he beat the odds and became his own superhero to beat the odds became the best that he could be
Look for a future try to become a police officer one day or someone that FBI or anything that he has to do with law enforcement related for him to be in jail for a whole year right and he was being so cool with the prosecution that he let
The prosecution take the Lee against his own self because then now he he exposed the prosecution about sealing all these stuff it was the prosecution’s idea and actually we just found out in this video that it wasn’t the prosecution idea it was the judge idea meanwhile everybody was saying oh
The prosecution you want everything on seal no is the judge why yeah we have it on film they cannot debate this we have it on fil the prosecution saying that they following the lead of the of the gag order of the Court presented by the court not
Them when the court is supposed to be the one that is a good to go give me transparency right then a prosecution want to have something on the seal then it goes okay so what’s the reasons you want this on the seal is his merits for
That cuz if he’s not merits for that being on the seal it’s not going to happen right so then now the judge is the person to decide okay if his merits are not to be on gag order the judge is not the one that’s supposed to be the put put the gag
Order that’s the prosecution’s job so how the prosecution said that we following the the Court’s lead on the gag order interesting that’s not even legal there’s a lot to this case that’s not legal I told you I was I was fresh I I I review these case like listen I I spent
Like five hours reviewing these case for these show in the defenses motion their stated reasoning is quote to investigate how and when Mr cober was identified as a suspect any he po State maintains okay okay okay let’s let’s listen to that after a showing by the defense as to why such individual
Needs the information um in the defense’s motion their state reasoning is quote to investigate how and when Mr CER was identified as a suspect any quot state maintains they don’t need access to all of that highly sensitive information why not to satisfy that purpose that is laid out in the November
28th 2023 letter from the FBI to the state right right you want to have a death penalty in this guy but listen I’m not going to tell you [ __ ] why I’m gonna kill him my god oh it’s a death penalty case this guy this guy’s life is at risk yeah
Yep but you don’t need to worry about Sin what how we got to your client here’s the problem FBI told you don’t use this you still did it because it was in the only way you could have fabricate this it was the only way working a investigation
Backs yeah yep that’s what they’ve been doing let’s get them man first and then we get the evidence yep but the problem here he that this man is so good he study same thing you study oh why he got what what what why he got glove on his house and stuff like
That stuff like well don’t you think that he probably know that it’s a Idaho full case that now he gotta be very wor about and not CUA he had anything to do with it because he probably see the intentions of the state to frame him about it yeah
And don’t you think that he knowing the same things that they know on how frame someone yep don’t you think that he taking all the precaution no DNA at his house no DNA Nowhere listen yeah he could have bought Kar what about if he saw the C doesn’t it doesn’t mean any it doesn’t mean anything doesn’t mean that he did this even if he did hi high five M bear here hi baby so yeah um so can we all agree that that that that that
Detail not just on the IG because remember when they get the DNA out of the trash they have to send that back say that again when they get the C burgers that DNA from the neighbor’s trash trash uh can for them to know that that was cold Burger’s
Dad that didn’t took him not even a week that took him like three to four days for a comeback on on on the responses whose DNA was that I’m a trash can okay yeah yeah yeah that was I record time unheard of you see what I’m trying to get to
So so you get the the DNA from the trash you send it back you crossing fingers thinking that you’re gonna find any cold Burger DNA there to actually have some DNA on the nice Chief because listen something that I want to make clear to the people they
Could have have a nice sheep that don’t mean they said the partic this particle of DNA was on a brass button brass button the brass will eat the DNA that’s right I want to make clear to the people police could lie to the whole community in the middle of a
Investigation they could tell you have a nice sheep with DNA while they actually don’t they have the nice sheep but don’t have no DNA but just because they said that they have DNA on the Night sheet then that makes it real right and we’re supposed to just
Believe them believe that [ __ ] when when when when people like me know that cops are allowed to lie to the community in the middle of an investigation and they will not get in trouble they could tell you it was a DNA on this night shift but obviously in
This night shift it was no DNA now after you get the DNA from the trash can you send it to you send it now you have DNA on the nice sheet because you went and fish that DNA and then now you have DNA to say
That you have on a ni sheath then that DNA has to come back as equal as whatever particles was in the breast of the button of the night shei that’s impossible Because by the time by the time they swap once it’s gone it’s gone yeah so how so
How you swap once nothing came through the computer you send it to Texas make a come back with nothing still and then now we still have a car Burger situation that we need to go and get so then we could have some some type of DNA CU that’s what happened yep and there is no DNA connecting him touche so I connecting his dad [Applause] ex they said it on the news stations he a 100 of a 100 cold Burgers Dad yeah how can you walk those worst back because he aund of aund for cold
Burger’s dad cold Burger’s dad did it you can’t even use G IG for nothing we’ve got the wrong C Burger oh something the words that are used for the exposure of these case you know when someone is lying and he’s so desperate a professional liar like me we tell you we tell you when someone is desperate in the middle of a lie they’re not thinking about what they
Saying they just saying whatever they think they could say at the moment to get away with something yes and I’ve always and you could tell and you could tell when they telling you they are desperate cuz the tone and what they saying [ __ ] the tone it’s what they saying because if
You tell me if a 100 over 100 DNA came back on Cole Burger’s dad that just tells me that you didn’t have no no DNA on the night sheath yeah you just want to frame the guy because then after you get you get a 100 over 100 you just
Need a DNA you just went on a DNA hunt after you went and got some kind of DNA cuz you couldn’t get nothing from goldberger’s apartment nothing from his nothing from nowhere the co not not his office not no this is a problem it’s how you don’t get DNA from these men from
Nowhere but then you get DNA from his dad on the trash can and now you have your [Laughter] man CA you use ID oh cuz you use IG after after after it was cold burgers that 100 over 100 and that nice sheep that you say right oh then you use the
IGG to get to call burger right so how you focus on C burger if C Burger’s name didn’t came out of the investigation of the inner circle is the only way is the only way and when I’m talking about the Inner Circle I’m including the University of idah absolutely they told you find
Someone outside of the tribe find someone that he has a why hunai hant okay I’m sorry for the cursing Holly you’re F Oh no you’re fine listen listen [ __ ] that inner circle where’s the investigation of those 90 plus cars white hel Andra that has permission to park at the University of
Idaho [ __ ] that in the circle how the [ __ ] you get to Washington University where’s the inv instigation of all the white helas in the University of Idaho exactly give me the investigation of each white hel entra way before you get to Colberg now you got to give me the Inner
Circle investigation now you got to give me every single investigation for each white henra what you did what you did yep what you did to have what you did to have the name cleberg pop up because in the same way BR kopaka pop up from Pennsylvania we had white hel anra
Outside of the University of Idaho and Washington University in the same way you got to Kaka and got him killed and you couldn’t use him then you jump to another BK we another white hant TR from Pennsylvania too that’s not coincidences I don’t believe in coincidences exactly and I
Forgot about them both being from that I don’t believe in coincidences no they looking for Outsiders that don’t have nothing to do with no connection with nothing to stick this to him to to get in the same way Samy Smith and the Kylie Ronney case said that it was adduction in the
Beginning because she wanted all the folks the focus away from the lake she knew that car was in the lake God that’s rough to watch she knew that everyone in the in the party seen that CRV going in the water yep but they keep a hush because they
Didn’t want they didn’t want to get in trouble oh I don’t know nothing yeah I know I gotta go to college next year and they got protect and they got protected so all these content creators and the Kylie Rodney K that it was an accident haha the case still open if it
Was an accident would would be closed long time ago and y’all would be laughing at me but y’all can’t laugh at me because the case is on the FBI hands and the FBI soon as the feds come in they cannot close it until they have
Facts it could be five years it could be 10 years it was still open but it will not get closed until to facts so all those content creators that laugh at me about the Kye Ron case haha who got the last laugh after two years oh yeah it’s an accident it’s an
Accident no so it’s an accident how how the FBI still got the case how the FBI hasn’t let go the CRV yet people say people was lying saying oh the CRV is about to be sold no if that CRV had blood in the back in the back rug and the in the back
Hash is a reason why that case still open they found it in the back hash sorry for skip topics that’s okay they found it in the back hash if it was any blood in a rug that means that she was dead before she she got into the water
In the FBI in the FBI knows that and the FBI really look into those particulars and they actually negotiating with with with the people cuz he saw negotiations it’s all negotiations with their lawyers and stuff that takes time you know what I mean and and even though
Let’s say for example they give him an immunity to speak they lie in immunity because if they would to tell the truth on immunity their friends would have got locked up right and because they got immunity they would have be called rats and they would have to move from trucky
Because then the trucky way woodo took place and now they got to separate the problem from the people and and they will become the problem in the same way Kylie Rodney became the problem for them that night and they got rid of her I rest my case but then so then
Going back to to the to the Idaho for case um let’s listen to the footage because this is this is this right here this this is a this is a golden piece right here this is why I’m so appreciated that I had the chance to have this hearing on
My channel because people don’t understand how important this last hearing was yeah so we be we would ask that when they be named if they are granted access that it be to that letter um and that the balance of the materials be protected and we would ask that you
Follow the proposed language and the state’s response from February 9th um to ensure for the protections of the materials M well you’re hon I know what letter Miss Jennings refers to and I think our experts should have access to the actual materials that letter is a summary it’s
A police summary our duty is to investigate police work we do that in every case and with and with our heightened duties and a death penalty case our investigators should have access to the entire record our investigators understand what a protective order is and they’ll abide by that protective order again if you
Want them any order allowing them access that’s fine that’s just fine with me it’s most important that they have access to all of the materials the summary contained and the FBI’s letter isn’t the totality of the materials it doesn’t show some of the particulars about things that were happening on
Certain dates and that’s what’s important to put into a timeline so that we can try to understand how the state did it can you see me can can you can you can you hear me can you can you hear me yes um I don’t see myself hold on let me see you’re Frozen
And I don’t hear you either I lost [Laughter] jro oh I do want to give huge shout outs to everybody for being here there he’s back I see you oh I need to add you sorry yeah um I don’t know why um I think MOS PD don’t want me keep talking about this
But that’s exactly what’s going on they are shutting us down it’s okay it’s okay we’re here we’re here um the footage is there though if you wanna um join the the footage oh yeah there we go okay yeah yeah they they calling YouTube hey we need we need to stop this
Somehow Hey listen Brett pay call me you got my number bro if you got problems with me give me a call we could talk about it okay as long as you do your job I do minine okay you just leave me Alone it’s work this well one of the issues with this IG GP is relevance at all and so the way I’m viewing it is maybe it needs to uh go on steps maybe where it’s Justified uh with the relevance or the potential of relevance for some of that information
Because from the very beginning uh the state’s position has been it has no bearing on case will not have any bearing on drive but I’ve been telling we’re not even gonna use it I’ve been telling even speakbang holding like bro they’re they’re not gonna use they can’t use it
In court oh they’ll bring it they’ll bring it back to court bro they’ll bring it back they could use it if they no no they can’t because you have to declare things as evidence yeah if you are early stage of this situation you made it clear soon as an Taylor said I want
Everything the only thing that they could have say was like we are not going to use in trial like this is irrelevant for our case but they saids that IG was the lead to cerg right that’s how they got to him so they have to show it if that’s what they’re
Saying that led him to it it’s a death penalty case you try to kill this man yeah and and and if you said that IG was the lead now the problem is not even the IG the problem is way before the IG how you f focus on cber to do all
These procedures to get to the IG exactly that’s what she wants CA here’s the problem she knows she knows that IG don’t have no relevance because they can’t even Pro she know that they can’t even prove that he went inside this house this is the first charge way before the murder
On the first charge that he’s getting tried off for for is the felony burglary you have to prove the felony burglary for you to even consider the murder one did you hear that angel I was just telling her this and Taylor knows this yeah but she
Want to make sure that she puts in record what prosecution is doing cuz for example prosecution and everybody else saying oh the IG was what they got to cleberg there oh DNA IG DNA IG but then now we just heard in this core hearing that the IG and
DNA don’t have nothing to do with what they have against him right so what you got cuz not even a witness could tell you unless you was part of it you can you cannot say that cleberg did it no no how you got to cleberg Mr stin a big shout out to Mr
Stin he said they pulling him out of their do ear that uh the D all right here’s what I want everyone to understand they knew it was a white hel Lantra involv when the white HRA crash when the white alantra crash in all the town they keep it on the hush hush what about if that white hel anra they crash
It was actually part of this crime scene I don’t and they just scratch it because remember by the time cop got there the license PL the license plate was gone they could still run it through the VIN the VIN of the car still tell you who’s the owner of that car
Right they keep it on the hush hush they keep the owner of that particular car what about if I tell you there is a big chance that that same white Hanta it was the same white HRA that Jack the court don’t have no more I was going to
I was just going to ask you about that if that if you thought that was that was the his what about if I tell you that I I I have a I have a hunch well it’s here in my state that I told I told Moscow py do
You make sure that that vehicle was in Jack decor’s car oh you know we can tell you that cuz the gag order m yeah what about that’s the same Bo hel the Jack de what about if he what about if the person that killed these people left on the white ha
Elantra whole ass because they seen that car leaving whole ass right obviously that car is going to be on the camera of 11 one one 112 Kings Row camera that is the house right in the corner yep that car is gonna be at sometime whole assing in that curb and
You won’t be able to see a license plate but you will see like a white something driving that way how they know was a white anantra outside of video outside a picture it has to be someone that say that was a white hel anra that came out of someone that knew
What happened in that house and who killed these people yeah is the only way the only way that you will know that is that you knew that who killed these people had a white hel Lantra that day yeah what about if that person person they killed these people was not just
Drunk on the drunk drugs influence and after a killing Rage that’s three components three components that while you driving it could kill you too yeah no one had even questioned that car CU soon as the cop said that that car didn’t have no nothing to do with the Idaho oh everybody everybody forgot
About it yep I have it’s been haunting me because it’s in my state they didn’t they didn’t they didn’t post it they didn’t post it no license plate you know for a fact with the V number of that vehicle you got a license plate you got the owner of that car but
You kept it on the hush nobody has seen the white helan of Jack deor ever again after that day God why people don’t ask these questions 30 minutes away from me why people don’t ask these questions the only way they could have be someone telling that it was a white hel anra
Was if the if one of the killers speak or one of the people that enabled the killing speak knowing that who killed these people had a white helter he got there with a white hel Lantra okay it has to be someone with knowledge of the crime scene and who did
It and why he was driving I believe that that information came from a source that it has to do with the killing so what they use with what what they did with that information how you get to bran Colberg okay we have a white alantra we need the information the the white
Alantra now you go through the cameras of the whole city Bingo we got these dumbass driving in the middle of the night yep we just got to stick it to him well listen kopaka didn’t work yep kopaka didn’t work and it was the easiest it was the
Easiest it was the easiest victim that they could have used because he already got PTSD they could have blaming on his PTSD they could have blaming on his War y they could have blaming a lot of things say he they kopaka would have be a more credible killer
Yep but he didn’t cooperate they got him out the way cuz now he know they had to kill him cuz then now if they leave him alive he going to speak oh yeah they try to frame him they they try to frame me and I said
No so of course they’re gonna kill you because now you can’t you now now you com now now if we leave you alive now you’re gonna speak and now a whole bunch of people gonna go like up so of course from between me and you it’s better you than
Me so they get him out the way because he had a white remember they they looking for white helenas yep but I heard I heard the SWAT guys say there’s there’s the white Elantra yeah and and then instead of investigating instead of investigating the white helas they have permits to
Park in the University of Idaho because they are University of Idaho students uhuh and instead of looking for all the white register in the mosow Idaho registry they went to the cameras that’s all they did we looking for a white helan TR we know that whoever killed these people had a white
Hel Lantra that’s a fact that’s a fact it’s nowhere around that that’s the fact whoever killed these people was driving the white HRA that night and I find it very interesting that within just a couple days or maybe a week or so um the the college uh
President was coming on and saying that that it was a that none of your kids are in danger uh this was an isolate before we even had a name and he was saying if I had kids I’d have no problem keeping them here um because it was is he
Also go ahead he also went to his uh uh the University of Idaho YouTube page and he posted a video too yeah you you seen it yep okay so I’m not because you already seen it so I’m not even gonna gonna show it to you but
Yeah um he made a video and when he made a video he was talking about a single particular suspect yep while they were talking in rder the peoples in the white HRA by the time he put that video out that it was like not even like few weeks after the killing
Way before um the white HRA because that came out way before the white HRA uh stuff came out that video yep well I think around the same time I think around the same time but very meanwhile the cops were talking about multiple people on the hel
Lantra he said he when he was giving the message to the people he said the individual single yep he knew already he knew already the plan that he was put in place to find one killer yep away from everyone so what they did when they mentioned the white hel anra now you
Have to investigate everyone with a white hel anra within the Inner Circle students from the University of Idaho um people outside of the University of Idaho they live in mosow Idaho we at White HRA you needed to investigate all these people we’re talking about 100 people plus how do you investigate all the
People you clear all those white local hant to go to to Washington and then now what security guard what you you send the security guard for for for admission I need I need a white hand Lantra from the University of Washington fetch Dam well we got we got
Two you could pick and choose anyone you want if one don’t work out a backup the other one will we got a backup and you have two options both from Pennsylvania and and both don’t have nothing to do with the University of Idaho because that’s all you wanted you
Wanted to keep their attention away from your own Community yeah the Killer is between them it’s not outside of that no has never been outside of that but the problem here is the the the it’s either mosco PD inability to fulfill a investigation proper of the University
Of Idaho Flex the mle on Moscow PD due to the mosco PD have Financial contracts with the University of Idaho it’s like well if you look after our people we terminate the contract and that’s a $3.5 million contract that the University of Idaho had with with mosow PD for whatever uh
Whatever Services they render to the to to the to the college and stuff like that right I’ve truly believed all along this has always been about money Moscow loses big time oh yeah if this come out it’s over yeah it is if this really come out it don’t matter if it’s like
Five years from now if this come out oh my God I end up being one of the biggest content creators in YouTube we a thousand Subs yeah no but wouldn’t that be crazy yeah that’ be crazy though I mean and really I’m not looking to be the
Best which I am trying to actually be the best and it’s just like out of hard work out of investigative uh investigative techniques out of out of keeping the sincerity with the people I don’t care like I I is no consequences coming my way right because I I believe
That the truth should set you free so if I I’m speaking this the truth and let’s say they come after me because I’m speaking the truth the truth will set me free in the same way uh uh big shout out to Total boy and in the Karen re
Case because total boy is looking for the truth he might already know the truth and he’s speaking about it he putting pressure to the right people and then they try to you know intimidation of witnesses and stuff like that and yada y y and try to like get him to shut
Up and stuff like that listen in this Idaho 4 case if if if the University of Idaho even the even even MOS PD had any problem with what I’m saying they would have already got to me already they have my phone number they have my name phone
They know how to get at me they could come and knock on my door if they want to they more than welcome they know that they know where I’m at they know my phone number I’m not one of those content creators they I’m sorry to say but the the majority of the content
Creators from from the other people that I know that I have seen here in the community I’m not saying you but I’m talking about the the the vast majority they only here for whatever they could get out of YouTube yeah very very sad they’re not here
To they’re not here to fix they’re not here to fix the problem they here to be part of the problem right because if you’re a YouTube content creator and let’s say for example I consider myself one a super sluth it’s my personal opinion I’m a super sluth listen it’s things that I
Don’t even want to know that comes to me right listen I’m not even looking for that information and it comes to me sometimes I I feel like guilty because he’s like damn I’m not doing no work to get to this [Laughter] information but I have a very easy SLO
In life like I get to know that even like even when I go to war with all the content Creations because they just again night times out of 10 it’s not me attacking all that and it’s not no attack is what we call it you know YouTube beef yeah or YouTube content
Creator Who YouTube drama you know what I’m saying that’s part of the niche yeah people people people don’t don’t like that side of the niche because you could get real ugly you know like like for example uh can I give an example yes please a famous character a famous a
Famous character that you know yes broken class magazine yay AKA Stella store AKA Michelle farts M Melle farts she have like 300 names and 300 personalities they all got her nowhere I already heard that she was kind of like harassing you a little bit too talking a whole bunch of yak [Laughter]
And she only doing that she only doing that because she know I support you that’s the only reason why she’s doing it that’s the only reason why these other haters might come and not and leave like nasty comments C they know that I’ve been very effective exposing
Them true crime drama nich could get very nasty when we go all the way personal with information that it gets to our hands for example she went and exposed few things about her personal life on her show that she thought those things wouldn’t come back at her but you said those things looking
For the pity and sorry of the people for them to support you and unfortunately all those lies came to a point that even her own daughter due to that she faked her death she faked her death oh she’s faking her death now again I don’t know if you’ve
Seen that but when she was fake when she was faking her death the first time right she said that that was my fault that I was harassing her and bullying her and that’s why she killed herself so somehow it got to her kids give me one second hold on give me give
Me one second real oh this is a this is a fun one fun story I don’t know if my daughter’s still with me but Angel she knows all about this all right sorry for that so so due to that somehow her kids got to know that their mom died oh
God her kids don’t talk to her and haven’t talked to her for 10 to 15 years wow they disclaim her cuz she did some very nasty things to her daughter and whoever don’t like what I’m saying I don’t care cuz if this young lady told me this about her
Mom why y’all want me to act like she’s lying because you could tell when a young lady tell you something with the tone and in the way it came out she Ain even wanted to share it and you know when someone is embarrassed of saying something like
That right yeah you know when someone is saying something just to piss someone off and just to put some dirty information out there about someone yeah this information that she gave me about her mom mother it was sincere so yes I call her pedophile yes I
Did yes I did damn yes I did call her pedophile but if she don’t like me saying that in YouTube She should fix that with her daughter exactly she should have a conversation with her daughter about why she saying those things that she did to her daughter and that’s the reason why her
Daughter is not around no more not even her Son but you’re going to come to YouTube acting like you you have a broken plate you me he’s perfect that you could see here and talk about CR Burger being guilty and [ __ ] [ __ ] you don’t know what the [ __ ] you’re talking about nothing that she said makes
Sense but you could sit there on your show and talk mad [ __ ] about all content creator that actually using some common sense about this case because you see that no one getes a [ __ ] about whatever you talking about we all know already you C and then when this information came
Out from your daughter’s mouth and she came to my show in front of all our subscribers and moderators on the big channel that he had 2.3k Subs that I’m getting thousands and thousands of views that night I have like hundreds of people on my live stream when her her brother and her best
Friend were live exposing her own mother wow saying that everything she said that her daughter getting traffic lie about this lady being a good lady and everything lie she had 30 30 plus uh CPS uh reports from the school oh my god oh yeah she never got she
Never got uh no no kind of criminal thing out of that cuz well they they they well we’re gonna get the kids out of here and you can fight it so if you fight it we’re gonna press charges because this is what they do they rather to move the
Kids out of the home and they get into a deal this is why she was she she had a past child support and [ __ ] ah but then you come here and you to me you start attacking everyone you calling me a woman abuser you call me everything on the book yeah everything
She was talking about she saying I was doing oh my God I have three daughters at home you know how you you know how much that pissed me off just hearing about what she did to her daughter I have three beautiful young ladies at home and a beautiful
Wife that I love dearly I will kill anyone that hurts my family that’s a promise and I said it freely here in YouTube you do you you do anything to my family I’m haunting you down that goes to anyone because I love my daughters I love my
Sons I love my family I I I I I have worked too hard I have missed nights of sleep making sure that my kids get diaper change get well fed well taken care of every like this is my priority my priority is making sure that my wife
And kids are happy right that there by itself makes me happy exactly just that wife happy kids happy husband I don’t want nothing the only thing I want is having my wife we smiling on her face my kids happy even my mother-in-law is happy my brothers-in-law are happy my sister-in-law is
Happy nieces and nephews happy they know that I’m here doing what I need to do for my family yeah so when this content creator come and call me everything on the book telling me I’m harassing her calling her college and all these other [ __ ] oh good God when she was never in
College I mean someone that can’t read and write I mean someone that can’t write prop like someone that can type listen English is my second language like I have an excuse if I misspell something because it’s my second language sure but anyone that says like J of all
Traits that says they went to [Laughter] college on M Lee like these ladies that said they went to college how in the heck you run out here typing in comment sections and Miss spelling everything that you write what’s your excuse I have an excuse I have an
Excuse and I went to college for nine months and I barely like yeah I got I got some language barriers here and there m but I try to get my writing right my typing right but how these lady that are so sophisticated oh can miss spell when when they write
So I cannot believe you ever was in college because if you was in college you give a bad name to that college when you write or when you type when you type you know he like Google Google spells and [ __ ] like what it tells me when I misspell something you know what I’m
Saying so when you do read what you just read and you send it you click send you was 100% satisfied that you cross all your te’s right yeah so long story short true crime drama could get real nasty between content creators yes because listen the
Only way the only way to shut [ __ ] down is coming with the truth like for example she came with a whole bunch of lies about myself she got exposed with the truth this other content creator that I don’t want to mention it’s a girl it’s a girl uh her name is True Crime
Queen Meanwhile I’m exposing her with the truth she tried to make jokes about Christmas tree that it wasn’t even there when she say it was [Laughter] there but she said no I do my homework I do my homework I speak the truth but she lying but she lying So those people you see you cannot come to true crime drama and go against a content creator lying that’s first and foremost yeah because you know lawsuits and stuff like that right right so I rather to tell you the truth sue me for the truth sue me for the truth sue me
For the truth and see how that GNA go in court how that gonna go in court I’m telling you all the content creators that I have exposed like jeels and all these other people everything they bring to the table when they when they talk like I use the same things that they saying
Against them I don’t have to do nothing I don’t even think too hard like when I’m gonna say something about them I just gotta go and listen to them for five minutes literally I break down exactly what they say and exactly I pinpoint when you don’t make no sense and that’s all I
Needed cuz here in True Crime if you don’t make sense just make it make sense don’t don’t come here don’t don’t come here speaking that that that you have a 10year restriction order where where have you seen the 10 year restriction order I have seen a month and two months
And then after the month and two months if he’s married to it then you go to a year and then after that year is gone if he’s more merits to that then they could put a little longer or what not right but no Joelle say Joel said that she
They they give her ex-boyfriend a 10 years restraining order well they dropped the [Laughter] case oh and I’m sorry and I listen I’m not even sorry for bringing to the table the conversation about her daughter’s HIV well she did first I mean she brought it first she brought it she
Brought it to the table so how you gonna tell me that your daughter went to the hospital and she beat a nurse so now you gonna tell me that your daughter is a little animal she bet a nurse my kids don’t my kids don’t do that it’s like
It’s like you’re GNA out you’re going to out your daughter saying oh yeah my daughter beat a n on the on on on a clinic and that nurse had HIV you explain that to me what’s the odds of that so you’re not just saying you’re not just saying that that that you don’t
You outou in you daughter thinking that you’re gonna get the py of the people and people will support you and donate more to you because you have a daughter with HIV but that’s all what it is that is for money so now you’re going to expose your daughter had
HIV you’re going to say in the way she contracted the HIV which she was biting a nurse in early age when she was little I have kids at the age of when she said that her daughter beat the nurse my kids don’t go to the hospital to beat no nurse so what you
Saying about you kid so that’s how she explained that her daughter contracted it from biting and then HIV what and then and then and and and then and then you’re gonna tell me where’s the timeline with HIV take take five to six years to show up with
Symptoms actually it takes five to six years to show in the bloodstreams I was gonna say yeah so where’s the timeline yeah you you’re right on that because it don’t it don’t show up for years sometimes and then and and then I give her my theory about what really happened
With that which is a chance there her Deb cuz she said CPS CPS um tested all the life family members she she detailed that the live family members oh but we know you have a dead uncle it’s a reason why you say all the live family members why you have to make
An emphasis to the live family memb so you knew something that’s weird weird that you know for a fact you know for a fact that they not going to test you de Uncle interesting what about you that Uncle what about her that Uncle had HIV remember she said they someone killed
Him so if he got killed that means that he was either on Shady business uhuh on the streets and it’s a chance that he could have HIV or he was probably a drugie that he was owning money to a drug dealer and he got killed or something like that he
Pulled stole something from someone got killed but either way it’s a chance that the story that she’s bringing to the table is not even what she’s talking about that’s why I said on my video it’s a chance that my theory is that that poor little girl could have got molested
By her uncle which either way is neglect from from from from Joel’s none of my kids uncles spend uh by themselves time with my Kids and it’s not CA I don’t trust them it’s just by principle it’s by principle so if that did occur Joel you on some [ __ ] cause I don’t know why she want to make sure and clear that she said oh I didn’t got no in trouble with
CPS yes they didn’t found me in no foul play of course not cuz your uncle could have be the one that he had HIV he passed it to your daughter and then he dead already yeah and if you knew anything about it you’re actually happy that he Did so so then now she she she left me a me like she validates me though because she left me a comment right underneath the video and stuff oh I don’t to play now listen you have to because you brought it to the table if you would
Have shut the [ __ ] up didn’t wouldn’t said nothing about it right she she brought the story about the domestic violence that it was between between her boyfriend and her daughter not even her oh wow the same daughter that has HIV oh that was the domestic violence so
In these two cases you showing me you that you exposed your daughter to [ __ ] you protect your daughter from your boyfriend you don’t protect your daughter from HIV or whatever however she called it you a Shady Lady in True Crime they can’t even make sense of the [ __ ] that she talking
About the cases she’s a reaction Channel she reacts to the work that me and you do yeah she that’s lazy people it’s lazy people because they just gon to go to YouTube and talk about whatever Nancy say or what not I’m sorry but you know what I’m saying not like
That but but they’re going to say something about what jrod say or what har said or what other people say but they not gonna sit here and bring like you did with Nancy Grace it was great because you brought the meats and potatoes or why she’s just acting like
That the expose um pushing an N needs no proof you know what I’m saying but then her she comes to YouTube she not just lazy because she only talking and then anyway it’s many things that I could that I could say that she does like they don’t make no sense but
But when you bring this to the people for them to feel sorry for you oh I I I was a survivor of domestic violence no you’re not a survivor of domestic violence you put your daughter in a situation that she had in a in a situation at some moment within domestic
Violence with your boyfriend yeah where’s the mom’s protection where’s the mom’s protection to understand that is a problem there it’s a red flag way before anything happen just to protect your daugh so you out in your daugh you outing yourself as a as a terrible mother you’re not keeping your daughter
I bet you you wouldn’t not out your own daughter on anything but why she come here to YouTube and said that her daughter was in a domestic violence with her boyfriend with her ex-boyfriend when that talks [ __ ] up about you and then you brought the other story that you thought I also have
HIV and the story that you brought to the table don’t make no sense but but she pray on the ignorance of the people because the people believe leave her yeah and that’s so wrong to use your kids like that how listen I asked my wife baby what you think about [Laughter]
This you know what she did she walk she she turned around and walk away she was like like she looked at me like and she just walked away cuz she would not she will not no yeah no and and and unfortunately I have seen others do that use their children even their children’s
Disability as for people to feel sorry for them oh donate to me I have to pay my cable bill so wrong I don’t want to say who content creator was was that cuz actually I’m pretty cool with him no no no I’m pretty cool with him I
Can’t really okay but he know he know that I’m talking about him okay going to this court going to thist he’s like I need to pay my cable bill I need to pay my [Laughter] internet oh man they about to disconnect my light build too oh
I need a baby I can’t do that I cannot do that like I don’t listen if if if my financial problems is not the problem of of YouTube if I have any if I have any problem like listen man what what you’re doing is ebegging You Begging you’re begging
You’re begging it’s it’s like I tell the people I appreciate your donations but I’m set for life my family set for life thank you like I appreciate the people that donated for for uh for Christmas like it was some people that donated for Christmas big shout out to rock shock um she
Donated and and and I told her that that money I’m I might use that for for the kids’s Christmas like that’s gonna be for for the kids’s toys for more toys than the ones that we already have yeah so we add up more toys in the tree on
The treat thanks to her and stuff like that but that came out of her heart I didn’t request that right I don’t I don’t listen when I say guys if in anything you you find them my information that I render to you if you find that information of anybody and
Yall want to donate I appreciate that y don’t have to but every time y donate I do appreciate because y just making things more easier than what they already are you know what I mean but but again I’m not here begging no one to to pay my
My cell phone bill or pay my cable bill or pay this or pay that because I don’t like Amy Amy could tell you Amy could tell you she been in my community for a long long time and I have not approached none of my moderators or subscribers outside of YouTube requesting for no
Money I don’t believe in that I I didn’t even know that there was such a thing yeah yeah like they they go to discords they got this they got this little group of moderators and subscribers right or or like let’s say this channel got members then all the members get access
To Discord so the members they’re already paying you every month for a certain amount of money right so then now you use the same members and subscribers and moderators due to that you know the love that they have have for you you use that against them wow oh well if I can’t pay
My cable bill if y can’t help me pay my cable bill I guess it’s no show no show for a week oh no we we we we we want you to be live we need you to be live and because they addicted to be in the chat
Room oh wow so these content creators utilize the love of their membership and the love of their moderators and subscribers and they pray on their weakness oh they tell they telling well if y’all don’t help me to play pay my cable bill or my uh internet bill or or
My uh streamyard bill I guess we’re not having a show for a while and everybody’s like no no no we need the show and here comes the money wow they literally scam they literally scamming people and I’m I’m I’m cool with some of these people but I I haven’t been on
Their channel for long I haven’t talked to them for long like when I say I’m cool with them that means that I’m not gonna like light their [ __ ] ass up on on my channel yeah that’s what I consider being cool with you like I’m not talking bad about you right I’m not
I’m not pointing the finger at you and poking at you on all the [ __ ] that every want know you doing because again I’m not going to sit in my channel and talk nothing outside of what’s truth right I can’t do that like if you catch me saying anything outside of the truth
Then I’m losing that’s why all these other content creator they come and say about jrod this jrod that this that okay cool cuz you’re lying it doesn’t even bother me but then when I come again my get back and actually use this you same words against you you know how many content creators
Have literally delete their Channel because they got exposed by me literally delete their Channel and gone more than 10 oh my God M Mel is one of them uh broken class magazine she’s gone she’s gone she’s gone she got many other channels and stuff and trolling and [ __ ] like that
And but at least that one channel like she always that one channel that that she’s using that I’m focusing on by the time I’m done with her she literally delete that channel geez because I’m speaking the truth I cannot sit here and lie about you yeah
If I don’t know I cannot talk about it yeah and um I think I you know this but but you know Angel um she uh had a fi day oh angel angel is your daughter right yeah and she said make sure J Rod knows that I stuck up for
Him no I appreciate yeah it’s a lot of content creator the the you see here’s what happened when they know is a content creator out there that is speaking actually things that make sense and it’s a lot of people that that for example if my I had a big Channel got
Terminated by false reporting by this Lady Michelle but she’s the one broken glass magazine she’s the one that uh false reported me like three times in a row so you need to get three strikes so that means those three those three strikes came in at once wow so I
Couldn’t fight nothing C because the ones that she was doing before I fought them and I wanton them okay but then what she did she Mass reported me bunch of times in a row so by the time those took place one two and three came right away the channel disappeared wow I could
I couldn’t even fight it so from 2,300 subs and going up we like I think I had like 400 I think half a million views for a small channel sheez channel I have all my work in the Kylie Brodney case all the content all those video have 5,000 plus uh
Views oh God gone all the hard work that I did gone and I had to restart again on this new channel Jr Point True Crime that it has right now thanks to Y 1.2 Subs I appreciate you thank you so much and keep going up I keep going up I’m
Not losing Subs I’m actually gaining subs and I appreciate uh the trust of the True Crime Community uh give G me the benefit of the doubt and even though it’s a lot of people that don’t like me I I have my heart in the right place um
I’m not here to I’m not here to lie about people I’m not here to to talk [ __ ] like anything that it comes out of my mouth it has a purpose um I like to do my homeworking cases I like I like to even though we have different differ
Opinions like my brother’s pck B holding me and him we have different opinions and we still have a great relationship we talk on the phone all the time uh we’re very very very cool um again I don’t have no problem to be eloquent and sit there with content creators and talk
About you know what we need to talk about and and as long as the conversation is friendly and we could actually talk about our differences in a good way yeah um but you know it’s certain people some content creators here in YouTube that when we talk talk
About here for example the Idaho F Cas their ego their their agenda their intentions um whatever whatever is really interne with them um you could see the vibe when they talking about something and then if if you eloquently you know Checkmate whatever they talk about then the only resource that they
Have is just curse at you and be nasty and talk about kids and talk about how much of a bad parent you are when they don’t even know you and stuff that’s all they got like that’s that’s all they got talk about like low stuff like like stuff that that you know
It will hit the heart of anyone we a good heart you know what I mean like oh I know sometimes you know I act like you know I act like [ __ ] don’t don’t don’t face me because you know again I’m numb I’m numb to that you know I have lived so many tough
Situations in life that whatever happened here in YouTube it just literally content yeah is is and that that was a that was a hard lesson for me to to not lesson but hard for me to get adjusted to um in the beginning because it was shocking you see you see how bad people
Is here and like the same people they said that they advocating for victims are the say people are the nastiest to people think different than them yes I mean I just yeah I see the hate I see the hate that you me and you became cool I see the
Hate uh what was that uh Justina Justina going at you but that’s her real name Justina uhuh Justina went at you yep how Justina got a beer that’s that’s all like like hormones and [ __ ] I mean CA you know she don’t even look like a man like you know like you
You like soon like it don’t matter how much beard she has on her face soon as you look at her you know he’s a girl [ __ ] the looks if you want to be a man speak like one get a little tone on your voice hey how you doing God good morning hey uh
You know get a tone you want to be a guy right right listen you’re disrespecting the males in this community and you disrespecting all the males around the world because we look at you sideways like dude are you like for real like you
Wan to be you want to be one of us but you can’t even come on man we’re the voice ringy ringy and I thought the the the hormones are supposed to help that I don’t know that’s what I’ve been told listen I don’t have listen nothing I don’t have
Nothing against what people decide to do with their body or whatever decide to do with their life listen be you be happy sure absolutely you go girl absolutely oh but but don’t bring that [ __ ] over here just just leave me alone like just just leave me
Alone I remember Amy Amy Amy Amy was Amy was emailing me and send me comments oh my God she’s talking about You I was like Amy don’t worry about it listen if if if if someone that I’m not going to go at it with is going to be with a trans person I’m not like you could talk what ever you want to talk about me I’m not I’m not I’m just not
Gonna CA the first thing you gonna say that I’m hating on you and [ __ ] yeah it’s like dude you the one that wants to be me you even used jrro on your name you came after me right right you came after listen confusing he came out with listen
He came out listen M Mell and him out like this even though they talk [ __ ] about show the day to they they like this m oh they like this she came out when he came out when he came out was because I was already out talking about
About True Crime I was already jro on point then your name is Justina but now you wna be confusing not not now JRA speaks yeah that was so confusing when they search my name I know on fortunately they find you yep yep and then now you’re giving me a bat
Name too I know cause you try to be a man come on I was like what the hell what the hell listen be whoever you wna be be whoever you want to be but when you bring it to YouTube people G to talk about it yeah
You know they see you and they not even it’s not even about about her being a trans it’s about the [ __ ] that you talking about yeah yeah and that’s and you’re absolutely right that’s it that it when you listen I said there like for five minutes because
Again Amy Amy Amy was telling me like yo she’s going at you and this and this and that I was like I’m going to check it out Amy my love and respect to Amy Conway and I went and check it out and I was like I cannot [ __ ] with this like I
Can’t I can’t I can’t uhuh C cause you could tell like you could tell that the uh the the unbalancing that you could tell like when someone is all about them and you know it’s me me me me me and you actually don’t have nothing to do with
This case and everything that you saying you try to fit it to be part of your life or be something that it has to do with you because you know these people know these people you this and this and that and you know this and you know that
All this crazy [ __ ] that you talk about is we could tell it’s a mental problem there yeah and this is something that we need to face in YouTube True Crime we need to face the reality there’s a lot of content creator like Michel that she admit she’s a mental
Case she admit she’s a medication counseling this other [ __ ] so if you have mental problems how the [ __ ] you expect us to believe anything you [ __ ] talking about about any case just saying cuz if you can fix your own life how can you fix a criminal
Case or even talk about it or even talk about it how how can you articulate about a criminal case when you cannot articulate about what the [ __ ] is wrong with you if you cannot fix your own problems how can you break down what’s the problem on the criminal case when you cannot break
Down what’s your problem and you can’t fix it yourself I have fixed all my problems in life I have all my problems in life fixed I don’t have no mental issues I don’t have no drug addictions I don’t have no problems at all I’m leaving the
Health I mean I’m 47 I need to leave healthy if I want to last long yeah you do so once you hit once you hit over 50 it’s over I eat a lot of fruits a lot of veggies I I eat like healthy meats and stuff like that good you know it’s like
My life is is is is is is is balanced it’s balanced you know so so I’m I’m so in a good mental health state that I could see here and just not just talk about me I could talk about whatever what going on in the in in in these
Cases because it’s so it’s easy it people say oh my God this case is so complicated no it’s not no they they’re they’re trying to make it complicated but it’s not but um you know they just bottom line is is that they need Moscow needed a warm body to
Prosecute they need a warm body to be able to take to that firing squad because that’s what’s going to give those families ju uh justice no it’s not yeah and and and can you see that they don’t even want Justice cuz we’re going to hear in this video right now he going
To start talking about the high school in front of the courthouse gonna talk about all the student the college the students in college the stuff like that that we need to do this in the summer so so if you have whoever allegedly kill these people right what about gidy up
And get it out the way do it right do it right but but the same way you already got the H the the war body why won’t you prosecute yeah is is that’s it like who cares about the education system who cares about what’s going on in the high
School who cares about what’s going on in the University of Idaho we talking about finding who committed this crime prosecute them and let the law take place yep that’s it is the only way to just Justice is like not just having a great investigation it’s having a great
Prosecution that’s how you get Justice for these victims and yeah go coming back to the to the Ado for case thank you thank you for the alyu um you could you could see in this in this in this film is no rush it is no is no turst for
Justice it is is more of let’s delay let’s delay let’s delay let this die down let this die down and at some point whenever this gets resed if he getting dismissal all right we done with this because we spent so much money so much resources and so much uh
Emotional on this case that by the time he gets a dismissal I believe that this is the whole reason why they they wanted this to be this way so like that people get so fed up with what’s going on that by the time cleberg gets a dismissal and
Go back home I’m still debating if Cole Burger has anything to do with this like like you know like he being in my belief he’s innocent of killing these people but I’m still debating if he’s part of the [ __ ] helping the the the the prosecution to use him for this bait
And knowing knowing again you know you want to work you wanted to work for us right you want to work for us this is the deal this is what you need to do Yep this is what you need to do this is your initiation you GNA make sure that’s why
Family’s hush that’s why the family not coming on his rescue because they already know everything is good let him let him stay in jail we’re going to secure him we’re going to protect him we don’t even know if he’s really in jail he could be in the mansion somewhere
Seeping the tea chilling with them and stuff like that we don’t we don’t know this we don’t know if Cole Burger is part of the [ __ ] yeah we don’t know if he knows that he gonna come out of this and he just got gotta take this embarrassment for the time being and at
The other side it’s a whole bunch of money and C celebrity lifestyle uh movies books uh interviews and all these other [ __ ] soon as he get dismissal he know he GNA be one of the highest pay after this so yeah I take a year I
Take a year or two I take a year or two while you play you games I take a year or two CA you already know that he’s not wasting his life doing what he’s doing right now at the end of the day he gonna get it back at the other
Side I’m still debating that I’m looking for that I’m searching like I know he’s innocent of he did not kill these people yeah but I don’t know if he’s innocent of being part of the whole [ __ ] of the whole theater them using CA believe me in the
Way they prepping everything in the way they did everything since they won and the way they they got him in Pennsylvania not recording the not recording the interview that interview could have be like okay this is the plan yep ex oh my God yeah exactly exactly that’s why we haven’t
Had it you know what I mean that’s why it’s not here okay this is this is this is your job interview yeah this is your job interview we need you it didn’t work how with kopaka they know already that they went the wrong way about business
With kopaka they had a put a 50 cow on his head yeah this is the last this is the last resource guys don’t [ __ ] this one up please don’t shoot this guy oh my God so the only way to go the right way about this instead of going
With the intimidation tacti they they went with with kopaka and get him out the way so now he not useful no more let’s make sure that this last resource if we have to pay if we have to do what we need to do just make sure
These guys is on board and he gonna shut the [ __ ] up and he gonna make everything easy that’s why soon he got caught over there in Pennsylvania you send me back home yeah send me back to Idaho forget about the the governor’s counseling whatever you no just send me
Back 50 steps you got to go through no we don’t need all that send me back send me back uh I need to get paid H Holly he not reaching no no at all no because if you realize in the way they have put it all together if you ask
Me I I think Cole Berger is working with them knowing that he gonna get out get get out get out that he going through this because remember it does do make sense that he ski the the this tradition hearing it doesn’t make sense that he skip the preliminary
Hearing it doesn’t make sense that they haven’t pushed this case like an Taylor and the way she been pushing the case like her giving his right to speedy trial and all this other [ __ ] it’s like this is made up yeah this is like he know they’re going to do what they do
I’m going to be good at the end of the day I’m helping them to keep everything on the hush put all the blame on me at the end of the day I have a big bag of money out the other house at the other side I’ll be a celebrity soon as I get
Out of this one and I’m now I’m in the Illuminati remember the Illuminati choose you you don’t chose the Illuminati right and when they choose you it’s for a reason because they need to use you somehow mm they don’t come and get you cuz you cute they don’t come
And get you cuz you rich they give a [ __ ] about that [ __ ] you have to have some kind of use for them to come and get you right they have the right things that they needed from this guy this guy was accessible this guy you know he worked all his life to
Get to where he’s at he might go [ __ ] all that hard work for couple of millions at the end yeah because he’s like well at the end I was I was studying everything that I was studying to get to the B now with this opportunity I get embarrassed about you know people saying
That I killed someone but at the end of the day they guarantee to me that I’m gonna be dismissed I’m gonna be acquitted I will say that’s not you were not the first person that has said that to me or emailed that to me I’ve had
That that email I email I know it wasn’t but I got an email that kind of laid out that same kind of narrative and it was because it’s chance they just needed someone they just needed someone to take take take the rap for for for a little
While let it die down soon as you get you get a a dismissal it’s going to be to the point that everybody just so tired up there and they just gonna try to let the the the the victims rest in peace yep that’s it but they not going to rest
In peace without Justice no no no and I would think that would be the most focused event to happen is Justice remember the Illumina that like right now they they they whoever killed these people that they are protecting now they using them more than ever now now now their families own a big
Favor to them yeah the family members of the victims own a big favor to them through the all the money that they gotten after their kids got killed they gain money they gain assistance they gain a black card probably they gain access they gain interviews they gain events they gain fame
Fortune and all because their kid died and then that opportunity due to the people involved and the people they protecting these people are involved in the covering all in the [ __ ] so then now they need to facilitate A Better Living to not just the family members of the victim but also the
Children which is the the students on the University of Idaho you see that you know uh Ethan’s brother got got got a scholarship from his under his own brother’s name oh yeah what kind of [ __ ] is that yep yep oh sister his sister become the darling of the fraternity so now she
Going to get reigned by all the Frat Boys yep I was a I I couldn’t believe those kids didn’t get pulled s Santa’s Santa Santa’s sister yeah Santa’s Dad yeah how in the heck how in the heck s’s dad that going to say that the S Ean was at 12:00 back at
The house eating pizza when Cara told me I don’t know from where they got that [ __ ] from right cuz at that time they was at the Frat House partying yeah and then after that it was the fight I won something in the morning Santa called her mom letting her know about the
Fight I want something in the morning and she knew her daughter was not home yet but they said what they got home at what time 1:45 two they were they at home said they were at home and asleep by two when when when Matt Maddie MADD and
Kayy MADD and kayy left the grub truck by 158 how they at the house at the house by 145 right when they left the grub truck by 158 mhm Ethan and Santa left the grub truck by 210 confirmed by Cara confirmed by the mom of the victim that that’s her daughter yeah so
Then I did the homework at what time they left and they left at 2:10 20 minutes right way before they Clos the the the grub truck wow right after that what happened the phone call between Matt with um Kaye Kaye and and the exboyfriend yep cuz she just got at the
House and she wanted to know what’s up with him taking his temperature making sure that whatever Adam told him that she told him to tell him because she I guess she didn’t want to keep the guilty conscience or why he left she left him or or why the reason she might be
Pregnant or or what was what what’s what cuz she’s living next day she leaving that morning by the time she wake up she’s living she’s going home gone y she was not even supposed to be there she was supposed to go there show the car and be
Gone but somehow she stay it somebody told her to stay damn oh so then after by the time she get home she cold cold cold cold cold she want to take his temperature we don’t know if any listen we we knew we we knew we knew we
Know we know that she used to sleep with her dog she didn’t have no belongings at her other room why people keep talking about that she was at the other room and she came to madd’s room when she heard the noise what you talking about she didn’t have no belongings in the other
Room she took everything out long time ago it’s no reason for her to go to the other room for what it’s no reason to Murphy to be locked up in that room neither somebody put him in there that’s why we know that someone that is close to Murphy that Murphy
Knows when he got there obviously he didn’t want his son to witness what was about to happen because probably before that you arguing with her the dog tried to jump at you and you didn’t want the dog to jump on you because you’re doing something to his mom and then now you
Have to kill your own son yeah so obviously due to the you along with the dog way before you come and talk to her way before you handled the situation with her you grab your dog and you put her in the other room before you did
What you did exactly that’s why the dog was going haywire CU he was hearing his mommy jelling and screaming begging for help and that’s why the dog was going haywire yep cuz his mommy is at the other room begging for help his own daddy put him on his room before he killed his
Mommy have we seen this before have we heard this story before but instead we a dog we a little human baby boy or baby girl that their daddy put in the room before they killed their mom yep we have heard this before we have heard this
Before why why how come how come how come right how come their roommates soon as they knew what happened why they didn’t went to Jack the C which is next door and tell him come and get your dog Kay is dead why they didn’t took down his door
To let him know that his dog is unattended cuz his his his ex-girlfriend is dead next door wow I you’re gonna tell me that that you you you you you fell it right because you was sleeping right he said he was sleeping right yeah so you right next
You right next door right so after everything that happened that they found out what was going on they they didn’t came to you to tell you come and get your dog they took the dog to the pound oh my God by the way he got rid of the dog called guilty conscience oh
You don’t have the dog no more I didn’t know that you don’t have the dog no more he got rid of the dog because guilty conscience wow so again like your ex-girlfriend is dead next door and nobody took down your window your door to let you know come and get your
Dog cuz your girlfriend your ex-girlfriend is dead the love of your life is NE Dead next door you want us to leave that story that you sleeping next door you sleeping huh and then your Alibi is a frat boy from your fraternity right and you want me to believe
That yeah you want to go back to the video for a few um we’re about ready to hit four hours so got you iow got you got you access you see but it was things that is a lot of people don’t like they have they have missed these details yeah
That I hope you you you been taking notes or you replay the video some other time later to catch up on my notes but but this is little details that he tells people this is not right yeah it doesn’t make no sense because we know for a fact the killer or
The Killers grab the dog without no problem problem walked the dog to her room locked the door locked the door behind the dog and then when and did what they did but I thought was potentially relevant uh and to allow your experts now big shout out to when your experts
To do that information so let me just kind of move into the other um clarification because I also understand particularly uh relevance of mitigation okay what what you um investigators need to cover they likely have to uh have contact with Mr C’s family and that you’re not we’re not I don’t
Think we’re talking about that kind of uh investigation that’s that is your responsibility it’s also your responsibility to dig in where the where we have have to have to I mean I think you’re required to do that so my um balancing responsibility is to keep it in control to some
Degree so I guess I I what I’m asking is that I have some justification uh for making contact with certain families that may have no bearing whatsoever on the case unless it’s in mitigation or something like that now the DNA if you ask me that’s wrong
They want to put some stop to something family members and the family tree that they used to break down the the IG that’s that’s not right for me if their name is there on the on the on the on the family tree if their names are there on the family tree used for
The IGG everyone is a go everyone is a go this is the problem this is where I see the Shady stuff from the judge and from the prosecution because how in the heck you’re going to put stoppages for the fans to talk to anyone that you don’t consider that you should talk to
Right no that’s not the judge uh prerogative no and again he’s supposed to be non or unbiased not affiliate not affiliated with nothing exactly and right now he seems like he actually the the the the the the breaking points that he putting in this situation has to do
With in the the critical parts of the investigation how can you do that listen I feel that this is even illegal for him to say that because how you as a judge would put any type of parameters on the investigation you you need to stand back you need to let it investigate and
Talk to whoever they need to talk to and you as a judge need to stay back you cannot put no controls on who they going to talk to who they not going to talk to now he looking Shady yeah yeah issues especially I mean maybe especially in the IGG it has to have
Some relevance if there’s some um context okay that connects to the case itself big shout out to Amy Conway uh she says she uh she adopted him out he did not even the the court didn’t even give the dog back to the family he just gave it to someone else oh my gosh
Big shout out to Amy Conway thank you Amy that’s how I’m looking at I might be wrong but he know he’s wrong I might be wrong he know he wrong you see the guilty conscience kicked in right away he know he was not even supposed to say
That he knew that so you can respond for okay all right we’re talking about a couple of different things with our request for clarification I was talking specifically about people that are already known to our team that we made the in contact brion’s Direct family parents sisters
Aunts and uncles those are interrupt you just for one second that that has no relevance to the IGG information that we were you will get there’s no those are people we already knew before okay and so I want clarification that I can continue to talk to the coburger
Family yes I I want to make sure I’m not running a foul of court order I want to be it’s on record it’s on record he said yes he said yes aun Taylor Aunt Taylor bait him she bait him she bait him she’s good I don’t know why
People act like she don’t know what she’s doing she is she makes sure that she have it on record that they just say just that she’s allowed to talk to all family members that means the family tree yep yep boom be really clear who I’m asking for have access to the Iggs it’s
Not our mitigation investigator that our mitigation investigator I think the court heard me talk about going through so you see the judge is like oh uh unless you’re going to be talking about mitigation and wah wah wah W wah she’s telling you no I need to talk to these people for the
Innocent face of this case I don’t need to talk to people I don’t need to mitigate what you talking about mitigation is what you already with you already know that he might get caught but she’s still doing she have her her uh technician doing mitigation right now because if during the mitigation
Process you know what’s up because doing mitigation right now it will help the investigation they put two and two together it’s like well in the mitigation process we didn’t see nothing they will indicate that the guys so we really it’s like right now if they have anything for
Sure for sure that this guy is going to get cooked they would have presented to an Taylor right long time ago yep and if he re they really had him they would actually do a mitigation for a plea bargain to save these Men’s Life Yep they’re not even thinking about that huh
They talking about the innocent face of this case we need to talk to everyone judge generation is back to do her work that’s required under under the Avan I’m not talking about her she wouldn’t have access to this I’m talking about our criminal investigators dealing with the
Innocence SP for Brian those are the people that I think should have access to the same materials under the same protective order they’re not doing J none of the at the judge face he’s like part of the mitigation work she’s doing her own thing her mitigation investigator looking backwards as she’s
Supposed to the thing she needs to that’s not the IGG materials so putting aside that investigator and thinking of only our criminal investigators that are going to be dealing with our innocence phase of the case those are the investigators that I’d like to have access they’re the investigators that
Participate in the meeting with our experts they’re the investig ators that help us put the timeline together to understand different things that were happening in the case before Brian’s name was ever spoken by can we please take a second and look at his face what the hell are you
Saying he’s already predetermined to anything that he that she say he’s blocking everything she’s talking about yep but he already got his mind made up yes he does he’s blocking everything she’s talking about he got the face like do I give a [ __ ] about what you’re saying
Right now yep look at his face one I crooked like one I down like you know I don’t I don’t care about what you’re saying right now right this is wrong dude like he’s not supposed to be this type of this type of demeanor like he’s actually reflecting a
Lot of the intentions behind this and again I want to give just judge the benefit of the doubt but at the same time like since the day that he laugh about that whose rights we are violating here soon as he said that I knew that he
Was problems there yeah I knew that he was some kind of Bess like it it was something there that he was not feeling right that’s why I believe that a Taylor should get him of the share I don’t care if um they should have a special prosecutor they should have a a evid
Evidence Master a discovery Master a independent Discovery Master they will facilitate the discovery process they would just gather was was Discovery right overall okay this is for the case we got it here and they also help within decisioning of playing The Bargain pleading and stuff like that if he
Anything on that discovery that is substantial they will bring it to anel and be like listen this is substantial right here we start mitigating for a plea bargain and stuff like that because right this is heavy right now yeah this is a a a discovery Master they should have a independent
Prosecutor independent prosecutor that don’t have nothing to do with this case they should have an independent judge they don’t have nothing to do with Lon County and let the let the process stay on Lon County let it stay there okay because anyway an Taylor is gonna
Investigate all the ERS she she going to make sure that if she see any flaws like by the time she realized that we cannot get no Jey here then please get us out of here because she said it we’re going to stay here we’re going to go through
The process see what’s up if we gotta get it out of here we get it out of here sure yep but at least she’s available to go through the process of picking and choosing the the Yury while staying in Lon County but I believe that the best
Way to go about business is having an independent prosecutor have an independent judge get the judge judge out of here yep he’s compromise get a special prosecution get your judge out of here get a federal judge if you have to bring it oh listen these plenty retired judges that they would love to
To take care of this oh yeah just to know the inside of everything that is going on believe me and get your judge out of here independent prosecutor and I believe that it could stay in Leon County so then after the eurus procedure if she see that we cannot get no fair
Jurus then get it out here yeah you know what I mean but this judge look at his face I know he’s everything back he he he just like and he literally stays in that same facial frame the whole conversation oh I know by anybody and we’re missing that big piece about why
Was Brian’s name spoken and how and how does that connect to the other pieces that we have that’s what our criminal investigators are going to do they are not looking at IGG materials if allowed to do any of the mitigation work that’s separate and apart so I I want to make
Sure that that’s really clear also when we’re talking about whether something is relevant or not I think that we’re thinking of the standard for information to come out in court that’s not what I’m talking about yes Amy the court found that the IG information was material under the discovery rules to the defense
And allowed us to have access access to some it’s for that same purpose and under that same rule that we’re asking the court to allow our investigators to have access to the same materials whether or not any of this is something that comes into the court trial that’s a question to be
Answered later I can see how I think this is why I’m really happy to have our experts involved but I can see if a way that there may be a motion practice that happens that relates to this I’m not there yet that’s where I am she letting the judge Know cheers I’mma tell you right now I’ll make it very simple easy for you we need to look at everything on the IG everything yeah we will give you the names of the people that is going to look at it we we we don’t deny nothing
No request that you give us we we give you what you want but we need to have full IG I know it’s not going to be using core and I totally understand that but she making a statement to the statements of the media and to the state stat ments of the
Prosecution she’s taking a stand right now yeah letting everyone know the thing that yall put out there right on the media outlets and all these stuff is the DNA he cook he the DNA IG IG DNA is cook right so a Taylor is letting him know we need to look at
Everything cuz we don’t know if by the time we done with the whole IG thing I’mma have to put a motion to this exactly because the IG is messed up and during here’s the thing she’s requesting the whole investigation from mosco PD we talking about the inner Circ
How you clear the Inner Circle first and foremost she will have in hand how you clear the Inner Circle how you clear all the Hundai elantas in mon Idaho you have to if you didn’t do that you have it incomplete investigation this is thrown out either way yeah either way but she
Want to make sure that she gets to see the open books because if it’s any shady [ __ ] there she will call it out on the motion and then she not just gonna call it out an emotion but then then she gonna know okay so for you to get this bogus
IGG how you got to call Burger to to to to get to ig exactly oh cause because the videos because the videos on the on the on the ring cameras uh the pictures uh whatever we have on the CD cameras and stuff like that and
Uh what was that oh the cell phone ping cell phone pings oh you really that’s all you have judge can we get this dismissed please exactly it should have oh God this thing should have been dismissed a year ago she requested she requested that dismissal he deny it I
Know I know but here’s the problem he deny you he didn’t even look at the merits right she a she he deny it without even let an Taylor have an expose of the reasons why should be dismissed he took the decision she didn’t spoke
Yep he he he well I’mma deny this and D you were supposed to let her have her expose say of why before you even deny it you already have your mind made up to deny it you’re doing like the judge in the deli case y’all making it look like the
Government is involved everything that is going on here yep sure it’s not it’s not us talking this we whatever we talking it the same thing y’all showing to the people but y’all call us crazy because he’s like why crazy for what for seeing that what yall
Doing for calling it out for exactly how we see it now we call crazy no we see the judge doing a whole bunch of stuff that he’s not supposed to be doing he’s not even supposed to deny something that you’re not letar the defense articulated and the reasons why you want the
Dismissal you have to let them speak you need to let let him break it down what the reason they want requesting that dismissal and then you take your decision you at least even though if you have your mind made up you still have to let them speak their peace and then let
The prosecution make a reverse and rebuttal of that and then you take your decision no that day he was like well I’m denying this and this and this and that it’s already denied she didn’t even speak it’s like how you GNA deny something that you’re not even going
Through the merits yeah why we want this dismissal yeah if if the judge would have allowed them to do the expose I believe that the first thing she would have said like well judge the IG is not going to be used in the court right on the on the
Trial so how the IG was used on the on the secret Indictment oh how jrod knows that I don’t know it’s the G I know he’s a gag order right but how do I know that they deuse it for the secret indictment you don’t need to use it in trial no more because you already got the secret indictment with the I you’re right
That’s that’s the only that’s you only needed some that you could present to to to you you your judges your uh your jury that you handpick the prosecution handpick yep the jurors so he pick his buddies yes or people that he know that he could use
Yep and then okay I know for a fact that they’re not gonna give me nothing with the pictures cuz the pictures don’t have no license play that we cannot see no license play we cannot see cber face we don’t know who’s driving with this vehicle I know we we know it’s a white
Car can you say it’s a white hel anra okay now how you know it’s a white alantra explain me please elaborate exactly cell phone pains it gets dismissing all courts y cell phone all that cell phone data and the worst part about it is how can you
Have a grand jewelry coming back without the cast information exact yeah people is talking about the cast oh the cast the cast the cast they still don’t have the cast at this day to date they have a preliminary they have a preliminary they have a chicken scratch but they don’t have the whole
Homework at this day today what what what new stations are embarrassing themselves talking about oh they have the cash the FBI cash set and they don’t have it no they don’t why can’t you talk about something that they don’t have in the case that obviously the only thing that
They use for these grand jury to come back was the IGG yeah nothing else that you could have show to these ignorant jurors ignorant people that don’t know a [ __ ] thing the Gallo whatever you put in front of the world this is DNA this is his DNA
This is the IG telling know that this is the DNA that he was on the Night sheet that he was in the room right underneath one of the victim and that’s that’s that’s all that eurs need to know because everything else about the car pictures and the no
Have no cast so you can’t even use the cast in the in the secret indictment so obviously you put two and two together you know know the only thing that they use in the grand jury indictment secret indictment was the IGG that’s why they’re not going to use it in in trial
Because they already got what they wanted it was the indictment to get him locked up for how long as they want God oh my Lord hly I was framed I was framed and I went through this before my case got dismissed for two years and a half
So I know believe me I know all the dirty tricks while while while while I’m trying to get my kids back from CPS my my my my oldest son while I while in two years and a half I had to do everything I needed to
Do as a man to satisfy not just the court satisfy CPS satisfy everyone even my wife at that moment so I had to go cold turkey I had to go cold turkey on my life like everything that I knew and how I was I had to literally destroy and delete it and
Became a whole new man for me to prove the court that whatever big drug dealer want to put me in the RICO I went twice to Superior coure and chocal ups at the dungeons and [ __ ] and Superior Court was like ah we don’t want this [ __ ] we don’t want this [ __ ] take it
Back to district and figure this [ __ ] out we don’t want this [ __ ] you said Rico what and these guys on the top of the pyramid what with this with this nah send him back to District uh nah send him back and I’m chak up with the same love going back to
District and fight for two years and a half to get my life back my kid and my white back oh my God because I needed to prove that what the state was saying was a lie right so I had to make sure that I
Cross all my T and all my P and q’s I had to make sure that I appr proov the court CPS and my wife that I’m not the guy that they say that I am God that’s horrible thism the case after two years and a half I was like I’m done with Massachusetts
Bye I left wow I I was like I was like you know um my ex-wife at that moment she had family in Ohio and and and you know after um because we had we had a son a son that he was about to be born at the
Same time that even trip to to get to get that son out of the hospital soon as he was born like like by the time like the baby like if I didn’t beat this case by the time the baby was born it was a chance
That they could have not allow us to see the baby after Bor oh my God so as a man yeah as a innocent man I make sure that the due diligent to make sure that me as a man I not just get back the son that
Is at his Auntie’s house but then I don’t lose this old new son that is coming to life right so after two years and a half I beat the case uh and Al left I was like I don’t want nothing to do with Massachusetts I don’t blame you wow I
Was like nah I’m I’m going somewhere that I could that I could leave a normal life that I could be a the the live the best life that I could live and that’s what I did I came to Ohio and and I believe that’s the best decision I ever
Too because here’s what happened I don’t know if I told you that um I’m a Latin hip I’m a l Hold on I think my baby’s hold on one sec baby mommy got her okay love you babe well um yeah I gotta say um before
We go um the problem with that was that I’m a like I’m a Latin hip hop rapper uhuh so back then I was I was well known for my music my music it was not it was drill music really it was drill rap but in Spanish
Uhhuh so you know when when we make videos we was the hood you know yeah you know it was guns and stuff like that you know I was literally like the representative of the hood as a rap as a rapper so they thought they thought that I was the leader of this big
Gang with multiple gangs in it so they thought I was the the leader of all just cuz my music just cuz what they see on the video just cuz whatever you know I’m trying to get out the hood making music to make money and leave a better life and and
And just due to my music they try to say that I was say a uh a kingping uh big deal type of thing but geez just C my music so after two years and a half beat the case came to Ohio little music here in Ohio but but
I’m focused on my family as you could see yes we very proud of our family uh I think our pictures could speak uh more than anything that I could say yeah um how many you have how many kids do you have uh I got nine
Damn nine yeah I got hold on let me make sure yes nine I got five I got five five girls four boys wow dang my my hat is off to you I’d fist bump you if I was there Hey listen listen we could we could have another live about about life experiences and
Stuff like that if you ever want I’d love that I would love again a lot of people probably want to hear like how come that I have nine kids like how you do it bro yeah well I I I’ve never met a man that had more kids than
Me there you go it’s always it’s always the first time though I know hly thank you so much for having me though I I I appreciate you um I think I think this live has been amazing because because I have the chance not just to to come and
Visit your community and show love and speak about many topics within the true Prime community and and not just that but I believe that the mission was accomplished with what we spoke today yes yes I think uh we hit we we hear High we hit low we hit right in the
Middle um we give him like things that they already know and things that they did not know um I think it’s a mission accomplish um thank you so much for having me here thank you for being here I really do appreciate talking to you
Talking to you a as a great as a great content creator that you are in true Prime um thank you it gives me it gives me hope it gives me hope uh for all the content creators out there because um we could all get along we could all get along and we
Could allely we could all talk and and we could all like information listen is is things is like you say these things that I said that you didn’t thought about and it was some some key pointers and exactly and stuff that you said that that that you appreciate for for me bringing those
Things out and I wish I could do the same for all content creators I could I listen I’ve been I’ve been on big stages I’ve been small stages and I always this is what I bring to the table I want to have conversations with people that want to have conversations even those
Conversations are tough to have and to digest but as long as we have the will to just sit down and have a chatchat and and keep a good tone and and have fun while we at it even though if we disagree mission accomplished though yeah no I would love to sit down and
Share with you what I’ve been through I sh listen I’m I’m an open book though whenever you want to do a a living living living life living life we we uh living uh living life with Holly and JRA or or how you life like type of
Thing if you want to have one of those live stream awesome yes listen we could talk about domestic violence we could talk about uh relationships we could talk about anything drug drugs habits and listen I’m a open book we could just see here through it all we could just
Have conversation even even our exper experiences in college yep yep let me know and and I always be here I’m so supportive to your channel to your community you have a beautiful Community you have a great tone on your channel the things that you speak people need to
Listen to I totally understand that we are not the cup everyone’s cup of tea but if if people give the opportunity of benefit of the th H uh whoever is listening to this live stream I promise y that if y’ take your time and listen to Holly Martin and her
Daughter when we when they live and they put videos I I guarantee that y’all will find a good experience with that listening because I have a good experience when I listen to you right because for me it’s healthy to hear content creators that are eloquent they are classy that that you could feel
Their Vibe and their spirit is in the right place we need this I need this yeah I need to see content creators like you because again I I’m a nutc case like like listen it I I I’m like if anyone is gonna be like it’s gonna be me but but when I sit
Down and I could just pause myself and just allow the information that is coming through you or coming through you da what y speak and the way y speak and the tone is beautiful it’s healthy easy to digest listen me and my girl we sit here we
Watch your show we we we pressure it’s like it’s good thing because I wish more content creators do do what you do for the community they’re actually the tone the Poise the the peace um I wish all the content creator had had uh talent but I guess this is
Why you holy Martin The Original he’s only one oh there [Laughter] is oh well thank you so much and I have so much respect for you you know I do I I truly respect you so much and I love what you do and I I just think you’re
Just wonderful jrod thank you I appreciate and I know that’s I know that’s not what you you’re real name is but I would rather call you that because it’s easier for me to pronounce you’re good though you’re good say hi say hi say hi to the whole family say hi to your
Daughter say hi to your whole Community I appreciate you so much and again um whenever you need me back just let me know I’m always available and I’m always on dial thank you so much and thank you it was a good one you and the same for
You if you ever want me just give me a holler guys as always your favorite brother your mother’s favorite son the black sheit I believe in you listen believe in yourself because I believe in you if I did it you could do it too I ain’t nothing special I believe that you’re
Gonna take the best decisions for yourself and for everyone around you thank you love you take care have a good day though see you soon all right bye let’s go
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