Trudeau’s great Nazi whitewash unravels is albanes next and don’t blame mother nature for Obama and Hillary’s war crimes coming up on this week’s episode of the citizens Report welcome to the citizens report it’s the 208th of September 2023 I’m Robert bock and joining me today as Citizens party research and editor Richard Bon welcome Richard thanks Robert um in this week’s show we have a incredibly important story that just blows open the the lies
Of the last two years that we have tried on our show to correct now it’s undeniable and it’s relates to why um suddenly it’s cool to be a Nazi we’ll get to that an actual Nazi not a not just a prority the real deal um and
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Notes Here on a very important subject um but we have to get to that first um just before we do Richard quick update uh last week I was in uh L seston on Tuesday camber on Wednesday and um uh the town of juny in New South Wales on
Thursday with Glenn isherwood from the office here and so Alisa and Craig did the show on Thursday and they were able to present the um the power of these hearings into bank closures in Regional Australia and it was an incredibly powerful process we played a lot of
Clips from from the Wednesday hearing of the bank CEOs I don’t want to rehash all that I’m going to play one little clip in a second um but let me just say this is what the um hats off to everybody who got involved in this campaign to help
Get this this inquiry up because it is kicking goals and kicking butt and if you had have been there in the room when the the bankers um were in the firing line last Wednesday you would have it would have almost restored your faith in Parliament almost almost certainly the
People in the room deserved cudos and that includes um as I said on Martin North’s show labor Senator Linda White she was so good going after the banks in fact her and Jared renck um who has always been good going after the banks but the reason I’m highlighting Linda
White is because she’s in her part is in government they can actually do something about this to have a labor Senator doing so well in this inquiry and not holding back and the way she went after Anna BL was a was something to behold right it was it was really
Good because I ex labor she’s ex- labor Premier and the person who took her on the most was the labor senator in the room that was great the banks are squirming Under Pressure um but we put out a press release with this week so what they’re trying to do is that
They’re um they’re wriggling like mad and they’re making concessions on the one hand so Commonwealth Bank announced that they’re going to be the branch bank for the next three years they’re going to test the waters they reckon but on the other hand they’re taking they’re taking it away because they’re doing
More stuff to push the cashless agenda right so they announced that Bank West is going going to go fully digital and the people in wa should ride about that his Regional Bank is going digital how does this make any sense good luck they obviously don’t like people banking very
Much if you rely wholly on digital banking that’s just crazy um plus they whacked up fees on what they charge small businesses every day to process their cash from $3 to $10 in one Fell Swoop which is you know roughly 330% increase in fees on on small businesses
It’s just crazy and of course that’s what’s they’re trying to put pressure on small businesses to go fully cashless um one of the things that that shows how well we’re doing Richard is we’re getting a lot of media coverage on this so um we had an excellent what the the
Probably the best mainstream media article that we’ve ever had on this issue was in the financial review on Saturday by James a there’s it we put on um you can see it there we’ll put on the screen um and they quoted me length I
Got to talk to James a quite a bit um he liked he liked the um he liked my description of Anna BL um i’ called her a self-appointed cheerleader for a digital dystopia she is trying to sell as a Nirvana and um uh yeah that that quote got in there because that’s the
Truth you could see that the day before so that was really good um uh that coverage plus we’re getting a lot of radio coverage and so yesterday I was on 5aa and Adelaide and 6 PR in Perth um these are the big Drive Time commercial stations you know so that you can people
In their cars can listen and when we talked about Bank West going digital in Perth I hung around a bit to hear the Callins and the first call in was from a little old lady who announced that she’s blind and cash allows her a blind person to be independent because she can
There’s got little Braille bumps on it and and the notes are different sizes she can handle cash she can use use cash she can operate independently as a blind person but if it’s digital she can’t she will become totally reliant on someone else to operate for it so these are the
Sort of stories that come out um on this and and frankly just look at the volume of coverage you’re seeing on social media and you’re seeing in the Press about these questions of Branch closures and and Banks going cashless the coverage means that the the blowback is being noticed right and that means
They’re not they’re not going to get away with this easily so take heart from that and partic you know as much as you can keep participating in the fight back um all right let’s leave that there because I could literally talk about that all day but we’ve got too important
A subject um and this is deadly serious um we’re going to go through this in in quite a bit of detail Trudeau’s great Nazi whitewash unravels is Alban’s next so stay tuned for the the El and easy bit what we’re talking about if you if you haven’t
Heard if the media hasn’t covered it I know some Australian media Richard has covered this but we’re going to go through the details as you’re watching this if you haven’t seen this in the Australian media let us know in the comments below if you have seen it in
The Australian media let us know in the comments below I would you be interested how much coverage this got in Australia it was there was one article in the Australian newspaper I saw that but see but see if you if you picked it up elsewhere um but here’s the bottom line
The obsessive irrational hatred of Russia is now allowing real M real absolutely Bonafide Nazis to walk openly Among Us and you saw that most clearly last Friday the 22nd of September in the Canadian Parliament when Ukrainian president zalinski attended to pres to speak give a speech to the Parliament and then the
Speaker got up and this happened we have here in the chamber today Ukrainian Canadians Ukrainian Canadian World veteran from the second world war who fought the Ukrainian Independence against the Russians and continues to support the troops today even at his age of 98 [Laughter] his name is yav
Hunka and uh I was going to say he’s in the gallery but I think you beat me to that but I’m very very proud to say that he is from North Bay and from my writing of niping to mising he’s a Ukrainian hero a Canadian hero and we thank him for all his
Service thank you now what a heartwarming moment Richard but when should when should the politicians if they had a modicum of understanding of History s something was wrong well who who were the um who were the Russians fighting in World War II Robbie and so let’s not answer the
Question but seriously you’re the viewer did you learn anything about history in the last 70 80 years you just have to know a little bit about World War II the Russians they didn’t fight the English they didn’t fight the the Americans they didn’t fight the Canadians they didn’t fight the
Australians they fought the Nazis and so now I got to play another clip in a minute but um that’s what people in that building so there’s a few there’s a few alternative explanations here Richard maybe every Canadian Member of Parliament is as dumb as a brick maybe maybe I suspect something else
Probably not no that’s what I’m saying exactly I don’t think I don’t think that’s that that’s dumb but it’s the obsessive hatred of Russia all they had to hear was fought the Russians and it was like oh good right now notice also how everybody’s standing up no
One’s no one’s sitting down on this everyone’s standing up including if you look closely Justin Trudeau and zalinsky were lead everyone’s applauding the guy standing ovation Standing Ovation now so somebody made this video to point out that they think the speaker actually twigged about what was going on so have
A look at this little clip that someone made of this we have here in the chamber today Ukrainian Canadians Ukrainian Canadian World veteran from the second world war who fought the Ukrainian Independence against the Russians and continues to support the Troops so anyway there you go that’s the speaker and I who knows someone’s handed in script and he’s wait a minute well that’s right I think Richard I think you’re 100% right someone’s hand in the script except now he’s become the Fall Guy because officially trur says I
Didn’t know anything about this right zelinsky’s Administration has said nothing um so can’t blame them can’t blame trau so they’re blaming the speaker even though he had that reaction but um so he’s been forced to resign the speaker is is no more he he’s the ex speaker now in the um uh Ukrainian
Parliament Canadian Parliament however that that Nazi he’s a member of the Waffen SS Galia Division I think they call it the 14th Galia division yeah there was a whole bunch of these the the vaff and SS is the the SS was the sort of elite um
Uh of the of the German Army the and mostly you know they were very closely like they didn’t you didn’t get appointed unless you were a True Believer in the cause and ideology and all that as an officer in the SS and then they recruited all of these locals
In the various places that they occupied who um hated the Russians and were willing and wanted to join the uh including a lot of these nationalist type blood and soil nationalist types the same ideology as the Nazis basically just in their own patch um as as soldiers um and so this um committed
Atrocities oh yeah all the time and to the extent that they shocked the German Nazis sometimes with their brutality executing whole Villages of people with like murdering them with farm implements and and hand tools and things like this including po Poes um Jews Russians basically anyone who didn’t fit their
IDE yeah anyone who disagreed with their ideal of Ukrainian nationalism was the enemy and and subhuman and to be killed um and so the the um yeah gitan as they call it in German or hich in Ukrainian division these PE this is an Infamous um unit that’s you know war
Criminals one and all so that’s who the Canadian Parliament stood as one to applaud last Friday and you know so you just got to I mean this is a this is such a touchy subject for there’s nothing has defined evil more absolutely post World War II than the name Nazi
Nothing yet suddenly that can happen how is this possible well back to the speaker he’s absolutely the full guy because that that Nazi he’s 98 years of age his name is yaroslav hunka um his granddaughter put up this social media post of her grandfather waiting to meet personally with Trudeau and zilinski
Before this event he’d already met them so trau saying I didn’t know anything the speaker organized all this rubbish this was top down This was um uh you know I’m not even sure how to interpret whether it was a mistake whether they’re rubbing people’s noses in it hoping nobody notices
Noticed someone told me someone someone had an alternative explanation saying look it was a w they’ve tried to wiw watch their history since World War II um and when you do that you you know your own kids and grandkids can sort of get carried away and not know how bad
You really were and try and promote you as a as a normal person or whatever do you have a theory well I mean that did h i mean in places like Japan for instance that happened where it was systematized by the government I’m not sure if that’s
Um the case you know early in in postwar Generations I don’t think that’ll fly in the internet age when anyone can just type in you know vaff and SS gitan and go what you know type it into Google or your search engine of choice no um the
Other point I I I I think it’s worth making is that um you know and like your you can give a bit of a perspective on this but um the fact how’s this guy in Canada there’s a if you know history not not a superficial version of history but
A bit of History a bit of depth in depth history there was a very dark chapter after World War II where Western Powers um deliberately took actual Nazis and co-opted them yeah before World War II was even over actually once they’ won in the the Western theaters cuz see
Something that was acknowledged by everyone up to in up to and including Winston Church who hated the Russians hated you know he was a British imperialist to the core that all of these things so but they acknowledged openly that it was the the Soviet Red Army that had done 80 that
Had destroyed 85% of the German war machine at enormous loss 27 million people is the official estimate yeah of citizens of the Soviet Union civilians and soldiers were killed in that war by the Nazis and their Affiliates and and and adjuncts and so on and that they would have won the war
Would have taken them a little bit longer they would have won the war alone people talk here about oh they helped us beat the Nazis we came in at the end and helped them beat the Nazis the Pacific is is a different story the war was still going on there here but
Um immediately they had vanquished the threat British and American some parts of American intelligence because there was a ideological split there between the imperialist types and the and the and the more Republican oriented anti-colonialist types and of course once Roosevelt died um then the the Wall Street crowd through Truman took over
Again and that was the Empire Builder um strain of America the Dallas Brothers the Dallas the infamous Dallas brothers who created the CIA and um so they went around recruiting all of these guys for their post war they had a they had active plans to make war on to turn
Around recruit the Nazis the what was left of the German vermark um and just turn around and and bring them all in and attack the Soviet Union now that didn’t fly um and that was a specifically a Churchill plan Church wanted to do yep and so uh all through the they launched the
Cold War in 1946 you know Churchill coined the term Iron Curtain they talk about it like it was something that the Soviets imposed we imposed it on them cut them trying to cut them off from the world this was the Genesis of the Cold War and they started
Recruiting all of these wanted war criminals in a lot of cases known Nazi Collaborators and actual uniformed Nazis like this guy um they brought them to places like Canada they brought them here um the head of military intelligence a guy called Charles spry was running that and then when they
Created AIO in 1949 they put him in charge of it and they took over this operation of settling them in Australia in Canada in Britain and other places America and and a whole bunch of high level ones in South America as well but oh yeah yeah but but most only know
About South America this but this but this is specifically the Eastern European Nazi Collaborators and auxiliaries so they brought them out here where they a diaspora communities and they seated them with fake IDs including presenting a bunch of Ukrainian Nazis as setting them up as as Russians to propagandize the Russian
Diaspora Community who you know a lot of them were here because they were they they were anti-communists on the other side of the Civil War um when the Russian Empire collapsed and um and so that’s why these guys are here and this was admitted by ao’s then official historian who very soon thereafter
Wasn’t official historian anymore David her wrote the first uh of the the first of uh what became a three volume official history of Asia and he admitted straight up in a just quite forthrightly in in an interview on the ABC I think in
2014 or 15 or so um he said yes this is basically what happened there was a there’s a book written by a guy called uh uh Mark aons called war criminals welcome where he details a lot of this and it was officially denied when he published this in the 90s and then but
Herner turned around and said yes Mr arons was essentially correct that’s what they did because hey if we know they’re Nazis well then we know they’re not commies right that was the logic if they’re Nazis they’re not commies and it was all about this people like Churchill people like the The Truman
Administration the house unamerican Activities Committee Senator Joe McCarthy these kind of elements in the United States who who established the Cold War they had to harness this hatred of Russia and the Soviet Union and all things Russian in order to do that and it became this irrational hatred and I
Saw it still when I was a kid at the tail end of the Cold War this irrational hatred of the Russians and they tarnis that to create this cold war that has you know our history ever since um so in the context of that though even though
What you just we’ll come back because remember what Richard said about Australia because we’re going to come back to that in a minute um but here’s people like hunka um despite this pedigree and the fact that they were actually welcomed in Canada and in Australia they had to keep
Their actual their true history Under Wraps right they they kept that secret and there was a movement in the 70s and 80s where um uh Israeli groups and Jewish groups went home hunting for these Nazis and that led to some famous crimes but most of the time it was Kept
Secret and so this guy hunka would have he’s 98 he would have spent most of his life keeping his true identity secret but suddenly this happens he must think he’s he’s gone to heaven before he died yeah right it’s like H everything’s all good now yeah it’s the inverse of that
Line from that Batman movie where you know you die a hero or live long enough to become the villain this is the this is the other way around that’s right so what’s happened this is the this is what has changed now I want to I want to show
We’ll get the producer to put these on the screen there’s a there’s a we there’s a The Times of Israel which is a Israeli newspaper online newspaper you can you can go and do a search there and these are headlines I’m going to read you a bunch of headlines from a search
Of the name stepan Bandera and this is just until 20122 I’ll read I’ll I’ll give you the dates and go backwards and and we’ll put that we’ll put the um the pictures on the screen January 1 2022 the headline in Israel at the Times of Israel hundreds of Ukrainian nationalists March in honor
Of Nazi collaborator they’re talking about this stepan Bandera we’ll talk about him in a minute U March 13 2021 Ukrainian senior academic proposes renaming city of uman after Nazi collaborator January 4 2021 hundreds March in Ukraine in annual tribute annual tribute to Nazi col collaborator um January 12 2020 Ukraine tells Israel
Not to criticize veneration for Nazi Collaborators are you getting disturbed by these headlines yet there’s a bit of a theme emerging here Robbie January 11 2020 Ukraine tells Israel to stay out of the debate about honoring Nazi Collaborators what year was zalinsky elected before 2020 for sure um yeah so
When when those headlines say Ukraine tell is Israel that’s the Ukraine government is telling the state of Israel do not criticize this that’s the zalinsky government Ukraine tells Israel to stay out of the debate about honoring Nazi Collaborators August 31 2019 grandson of Ukrainian fascist reckons with a legacy of Nazi collaboration
That’s about Steve Bandera who’s the son of the stepan Bandera who who’s a journalist in Canada ah we’ll come back to that that’s a that’s going to be a relevant point I think J 4 24 2019 top Nazi Hunter blasts visiting Ukraine leader for ignoring Holocaust complicity um December 27 2018 Ukraine
Celebrates Nazi collaborator B’s book critical of pgms leader pgrm is a race basically ethnic cleansing yeah yeah for those who don’t know um yeah you can see it in um things like Fiddler on the Roof um uh January 3 2017 Ukrainian Marchers in Kiev chant Jews out November 8 2016 Jews Gather in
Ukrainian City that honors alleged Holocaust perpetrators and the last one I’ve got is July 7 2016 Kiev renames Major Street to honor Russian Nazi collaborator and what’s particularly disgusting about that last one Richard is the street they renamed in Kiev is the street that runs to this um uh
Gorge where which was a site of a terrible Massacre of Jews in World War II so the street goes to the gorge and they renamed it in 2016 after this Nazi collaborator stepan Bendera who who um perpetrated those types of those types of atrocities interesting they call him
Russian anyway newspapers y um now bab y That’s bab y that’s right that’s right um that that’s what that that was so I’ve given you one country’s one newspaper one country but that was actually more widely acknowledged than that you had BBC reports you had Canadian reports on the on the Nazi
Problem in Ukraine all up until 2022 but come 2022 suddenly the Ukraine ukrainians Ukraine’s Nazi problem magically vanished yep and then everyone the newspapers and all of these national leaders including Anthony albanesi in Parliament there’s video you can go and watch it um start chanting their slogan repeating their slogan the slav thing
And that was that that was so um turn around like that so how does it go how’s the it’s one of the it’s the it’s the the fascist style the um call and response so it’s um it’s slav means the call out is is Glory to Ukraine
And the response Gava or depending on your Regional accent means um glory to to the heroes these are the heroes y um these Nazis and Nazi Collaborators and ethnonationalist lunatic Mass murderers and people would have heard most by now you would have heard if you’ve been if
You follow the news even slightly you would have heard mainstream politicians using that term or writing that term Slava ukraini right including as you said Anthony albanesi and I’m glad you said that because we’re about to come to him because is this just Canada now Canada I am assured um I’ve been in
Discussions with people does have a particular problem with this but it’s not just Canada because Australia’s Parliament has also effectively whitewashed a Nazi walking Among Us and the person who did it was none other than the man who’s now our prime minister Anthony albanesi himself so I’m
Going to play a clip this is from February 2022 and this is just as the um Russian military operation you know shorthand invasion of Ukraine begins right in February 2022 Anthony elany gets up in Parliament and says this and this is from his own um Twitter account right he he plays
His own video of him saying this listen to who he says he met with last Friday I met with the chairman of the Australian Federation of Ukrainian organizations sefan romanu and other Ukrainian Community leaders in Melbourne and I indicated to them lab’s clear position of solidarity with the
People of the Ukraine and our absolute rejection of any Russian military action that violates Ukraine’s sovereignty and its independence labor stands with the people of Ukraine and all Ukrainian Australians at this difficult time if Russia continues down the path of aggression it will be attacking one of
The core principles of the postor War II order which is that all UN members shall refraining their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial Integrity or political independence of any state this is a simple clear principle Mr Putin must understand that is not in the long-term
Interest of the Russian people to continue down this path the era of Spears of influence and other such pseudo Imperial constructs has been consigned to the Dustbin of History Australia should Unite with our allies and friends in sending the strongest of messages that Russia needs to back off
And it needs to back off right now order so the name of the person he the the correct pronunciation is Stefan Ro Romanov Roman ranv Stefan Roman ROM M niw who was the co-chair of the organization of oh sorry the um Federation of Ukrainian organizations the Australian Federation of Ukrainian
Organizations he’s the co-chair of that that’s who that’s who Anthony elanes said he met with but he’s not just the co-chair of that who is he only the guy who was the global chairman for 12 years until about 2021 of um U NB which means uh the organization of Ukrainian nationalists Bandera section
There was a split in this organization way back um Bandera meaning the same guy those is Times of Israel headlines were about had to come about oh there was um they they both uh branches of worked with the with the Nazis to varying extents but there was just a there was
An more a political than an ideological split um about who should be in charge and how things should be done but so there’s onm and onb um and uh yeah the onb spread all over the world because of this this uh extraction and and uh uh recruitment of these Nazis and
Nazi Collaborators that we were talking about before um so this guy um was born uh in Australia this Stefan ranu uh but according to the information that a colleague of ours um was able to find yeah his father um Ila or ilka depending he was there is there is there
Are claims at his father we’re we’re trying to confirm that that doesn’t change the what’s relevant about him but this park should be we’re trying to confirm this so we’ll say it now we we haven’t confirmed it yet but what do we know so there are claims um by Ukrainian
Nationalists mind you um their side that his father was was also a member of the SS Galan like old hunka who got the Ovation in Canada so and came here in 1949 um as did my grandfather my grandfather came from England in 1949 um he had spent a few years in
Germany my grandfather after World War II guarding Nazis in prison camps including um he told me just before he died for a little while there he guarded CLA Barbie in a prison camp um there you go I thought oh really Pop um a bit of
History there but um so he so uh this was 1949 they come to Australia and so the son Stefan ran Romanov Romanov is born here right um but from this position in Australia he is elected the global head of this same organization of Ukrainian nationalist B for Bandera the
Main collaborators with the Nazis in Ukraine and it was an and on on again off again collaboration in a sense right because um what what the what the white washers try and hide behind is there was a there was a period there where you
Where Bandera ended up in a in a um Nazi prison camp well sort of I mean he was in what they might call administrative detention and his men he was still planning missions they overstepped their bounds they declared independence from everyone including the Nazis and that
Wasn’t going to work for the Nazis so they they took him and a few others to Germany and kept them you know but what you said before his men kept working with he kept planning missions his men kept working with the Nazis that were supplied with weapons and intelligence
And all the rest of it so and it wasn’t just the the the collaboration was not just the enemy of my as my friend they actually shared the ethos the racial hatred of of Jews and other minorities they shared all that with na the the O crowd were were Nazis before the actual
Nazis they predate them as an organization by several years there you go there’s a bit of history for you um now so uh here’s a here’s a website um and we’ll do the Google translation into English version this is actually Ukrainian website and you can see the headline identifies Roman romanu as the
Head ofb it’s right there in the headline and if you scroll down there you’ll see the the different scenes of him um uh at different events of this thing including including um uh summer camps where which is a quite a thing they do to indoctrinate kids there’s another photo
I want to put up now which is him addressing an onb event and you can see the big portrait of Bandera in the background um now uh I’ve had discussions Richard as I’ve told you with um locals in Australia who were also Ukrainian Australians who hate this guy and they
Have told me that the it is absolutely true that the Ukrainian diaspora around the world has a massive na problem now they they also claimed to me that they they tried the downplay of the Nazi problem in Ukraine they’re very Pro Ukrainian the people I’ve talked to they’re very anti-russian it’s just that
They actually hate Nazis right they think because CU then you get a bad name with events like happen in Canada but what they acknowledged was that the the diaspora which is the Ukrainian populations in places like Australia Canada Etc have a serious Nazi problem and the fact you
Said before that Steve Bandera the grandson is in Canada if I remember correctly yeah is an example of that Canada has a particular problem and it’s and it’s and it’s hard to hide and just describe Christia the what’s her name she the foreign minister freand she her
Her grandfather was a was a propag he’s Ukrainian um mik chamak he’s a he was a uh propagandist for the Nazis in the Ukrainian language he they took over a uh a newspaper that was uh uh published by a Jewish guy and they turned it into a propaganda organ for for these
Nationalists and for the Nazis and you know uh and he was the guy they uh put in charge of and she’s now the foreign minister of Canada yeah Deputy Prime Minister and foreign uh foreign minister I think I think she’s a foreign when she and when she
When there was a little bit of a scandal a few years ago about her Nazi Roots because and the Russian Embassy actually said yeah here’s who her grandfather was she deported about four Russian um diplomats out of the country to shut them up yeah anyway that’s so Canada is
Actually a bit of a hot bed on this but but as we if if the global head of this movement is in Australia or it was Global headed until 2021 we’re also a hot bed of this um I want to play a little clip now because in April this
Year Senator James Patterson who we talk about too much on this show sometimes because he’s one of the he’s one of the people that used the reason these these well this Ukrainian organization Australia who was complain to me about this they can’t believe that they cannot get traction for people to actually see
They’re complaining to the media they’re complaining to politicians they’re complaining to he even told me they’re complaining to leaders of the Jewish Community why are you not exposing these Nazis in Australia these are we’re Ukrainian um we don’t want them why do they Dominate and you’re not listening
To us and he’s he he told me I can’t believe we don’t get any traction well they don’t get any traction because the Nazis dominating the Ukrainian Community Serve the purpose of the anglo-american powers right that are trying to use Ukraine at the moment that’s why they
Brought them here post World War II exactly and one of their Stooges is Senator James Patterson so back in April he had a he had a hearing for the Senate inquiry into foreign interference through social media um he invited romanov’s organization the Australian Federation of Ukrainian organizations to testify now romanu
Didn’t go he’s the co-chair he sent his other co-chair who just happens to be Canadian she’s brand new in Australia she’s just popped up I want to play the clip of a aaru her name is just this is not an important clip you’ll see you’ll see James Patterson introducing her to
This inquiry have a quick look okay the committee will now resume and I welcome Mrs Karina aru um for the hand side record could you please give your name in the capacity in which you here today yes my name is Karina arw I’m the co-chair of the Australian Federation of Ukrainian organizations
Thank you we’re very grateful for your time before the committee today um so that so she’s the co-chair of his organization right of this organization of Ukrainian um now we’re running out of time here so I just want to give a certain um we’ll have to skip
Over a bit of stuff but um what the what the organization does so this is so let’s just be clear there’s an organization of Ukrainian nationalists o NB that Romanov was part of he doesn’t go around describing himself as that right that’s kind of hidden in the background what they officially are is
This um Australian Federation of Ukrainian organizations now they have a website most of which is in Ukrainian so the average person Australian person Australian politician remember this is Australian organization but it’s mostly in Ukrainian they they wouldn’t be able to read it um so uh he has his letters
Written up there uh he’s written a bunch of letters over the time but you can translate the letters and actually um see something he signs off in all the letters with Slava ukraini that like Richard was talking about the fascist slogan here’s here’s a bit of a sample
Just to show you what an ideologue he is August 2015 he wrote today the concept and experience of the O are especially relevant in the conditions of a bloody confrontation with the northern aggressor Russia and his henchmen uh June 2016 he stated oh UN members understand what kind of state to build
And understand how to build it our task is to make future generations of ukrainians proud this will be exactly like the European Ukraine which was beaked To Us by the soldiers of the UNR Army on undergrounds UPA Fighters and the PA is the Ukraine Insurgent Ukrainian Insurgent Army which was
Founded in 42 as the ‘s paramilitary wing and for which The Defenders of Ukraine are now competing so this is we’ll leave it there but this is this is a guy applauding all that in right um but then this this is the most important thing detail specifically about this
Organization the Federation lists its members on its website we’re going to scroll through that page of the members the member organizations of this Federation um the Australian remember it’s called the Australian Federation of Ukrainian organizations and then let’s stop at this one the Brotherhood of EX servicemen in Australia it’s called
Right the Brotherhood of ex-servicemen in Australia that’s the that’s the the Bland English name of this organization on the website however see the see the um the Ukrainian name language name beside it which would be un I wouldn’t be able to pronounce when you tra do that name and Google translate that back
Into English the translation is regional Administration fraternity of the first division of the unaa which is the Ukrainian national Army now that una was named the UNA in 1945 before 1945 it was the Nazi Waffen SS Galia 14th division the very same division as the 98 year old guy in the
Canadian Parliament that they have a branch in Australia which is a member of this romanov’s organization which gets to testify before Parliament and attack members of parliament for being Russian stoes that’s what they I don’t have time to show you but that’s the sort of stuff she was doing that’s why Patterson had
Her there that gets to meet with the Prime Minister of Australia the day albanesi said that by the way he was the opposition leader but Morrison gave a speech the same day I’m playing albanes because he’s now the Prime Minister where he also said he’d met with Romanov
Right they get to speak on behalf of the whole Ukrainian um population of Australia and they are Nazis and no one says a word where’s the accountability for this and we come back to it Richard um the only way this can happen and people have
To take stock of this the only way that suddenly the the touchiest thing for 70 80 years post World War II the definition of evil can be can be completely ignored is because of an absolutely overriding obsessive hatred of Russia and an obsessive hatred of Russia
That you see and and it’s one thing to say well yeah they’ve earned it because you know they’ve invaded a country Etc but the people who are the most insistent about that are the same people that have said nothing and do not care about our war crimes we’re going to talk
About another one in a minute in Iraq in Libya in Syria Etc which have killed many more people caused much more damage right um they’re okay in fact John KY the former US Secretary of State was challenged on French television about carrying on about the Ukraine invasion
They said what about the Iraq invasion and George Bush if Putin’s a war criminal then George Bush is a war criminal and John kery said but that was different right so those are the people telling you that the Russians are evil this is the most immoral War ever ever
Etc and that hatred allows them suddenly to overlook the thing that we’ve defined as pure evil for 80 years we have to take stock as a country because what’s happened in UK in Canada is is exactly what’s happening here in Australia all right running out of time
Let’s move on um Richard’s got a story to tell and it’s an important one don’t blame mother nature for Obama and Hillary’s war crimes and what we’re talking about is there was a massive flood in Libya two weeks ago killed 11,000 at least probably 20,000 people and and because it coincided with a
Rather large rainfall event across the Mediterranean it’s being blamed on climate change y what’s the real story so yeah there was a storm a h Cyclone basically Mediterranean Cyclone dumped a whole bunch of rain in several countries including in the northeast of Libya because that’s what it what what it does
It’s a it’s basically desert but it’s like some of the western American desert it gets very heavy rainfall at certain times of the the year and it all just washes down and flash floods these low-lying areas and we’ll put it we’ll play while we’re talking Richard um
We’ll play the there’s an animation I found on YouTube which is really good that shows the Topography of the area that Richard’s talking about yeah so in this case um it’s a city called um I can’t pronounce the uh the Arabic but in in English and uh it’s called DNA DNA
Sorry uh so there’s a there’s one of these seasonal Rivers the W they’re called in in Arabic um aoos drywash whatever you want to call whatever you know them as uh and this city is it’s a small port on the Mediterranean Coast in in Northeast Libya is built straddling
This this riverbed that’s dry most of the year and every so often it floods sometimes quite badly and there was a series of these things well forever but um uh there was a run of them in the first half of the 20th century and so in
The 1960s the previous the the king then as it was of Libya King Idris and his government commissioned a a study what do we do about this in the 70s because um Mama Gaddafi took over in 1969 the revolution that he led that overthrew the monarchy uh and they built these flood
Mitigation dams up stream of the city uh which they used them to store a bit of water which is generally not a good idea with dams that are built for flood mitigation but apparently they were designed to do that um but they’re largely kept empty so that when there’s
A flash flood it holds the water back and lets it out slowly and doesn’t wash the city away the problem is they hadn’t been maintained um they’ve been cracked up and and in need of major repair since the late 1990s but nobody did it for reasons we’ll explain um and
Uh and so uh when this uh near record rainfall event happened those dams filled up and then burst one after the other and the bottom bigger one is only a kilometer away from the city and so they got a 7 meter like a tsunami but in Reverse going out towards the ocean it
Washed whole neighborhoods of the city into the Mediterranean Sea and it um basically wrecked the joint yeah and you can see you can see we’ll put some other footage up there where you can see the devastation in that area you saw in the animation but Richard article you’ve
Written on this in the um alert service you describe how the you know there was acknowledgement from the ’90s that this had to be addressed um and there was a plan that was starting to repair them um that started in 2010 that couldn’t be completed why
Yep so the short answer is five months after they started it um the uh British Americans French decided they were going to do their regime change War uh cheated on their um that they got an authorization from the UN Security Council to enforce a no fly zone and
They used that as a air cover campaign for uh rebellion led by their pet jihadist Al-Qaeda linked groups to overthrow Gaddafi and murdered him on live broadcast on the internet and uh the place has been Meed in Civil War and and terrorism ever since um nothing works anymore more and when they sorry
When they wer murdered Gaddafi people might have seen this play a little clip here this was Hillary Clinton’s response on hearing the news it’s so I mean that is the land of unconfirmed yes we came we saw he died did it have anything to do with your visit no I’m sure it
Did yep and the reason she was so happy about it and the reason that this Dam hadn’t been repaired when they noticed it was broken in the 90s is because Libya has been under one form or another of us sanctions and threats and intimidations and Military uh interventions overt and covert since the
1970s yeah and so uh which are acts of War anyway sanctions are War um you know this is and it’s not me saying so it’s the it’s the UN Charter um but uh yeah so they they did what they always do from 76 onward they started from 72
Onward I should say they started winding back so 3 years after the revolution Gaddafi’s Revolution they started winding back diplomatic uh engagement putting pressure on the government you know helping out its Rivals destabilizing The Joint from 79 onwards they started uh from 76 onwards they started uh things
Like you know not honoring contracts for military aircraft that they’ already paid for and stealing thing you know basically stealing from them 79 they designate them a state sponsor of terrorism for supporting uh they weren’t too too concerned about the tactics of the independence groups they supported but
Hey the Americans were sponsoring what became Al-Qaeda at the same time so they can’t complain and by the way the the first official Complaint at um uh Interpol about Al-Qaeda was made by m Gaddafi in the midnight um 9s yeah he was the he was the fiercest opponent of
Al-Qaeda for the longest of anybody y um because he knew what they were I mean you know they’ve got Egypt next door with the Muslim Brotherhood and all the rest of it that we don’t have time to get into but uh and that northeastern part of Libya was the sort of
Headquarters of uh some of these groups domestically um which created political tensions and sort of put a handbrake on things getting done there um according to you know various sources but the main reason is that yeah the Americans tried to make it prohibitively difficult for the libyans to get uh
Outside contracts because they might decide to close down your bank account the next day because you’re doing business with the supporter of terrorism all the things that they’ve been trying to do to the countries like Venezuela and Russia and China that in recent years and so you can’t have that kind of
Attack on a country without it taking a toll on its infrastructure Etc yeah and so particularly once they got the got them uh the sanction some sanctions introduced via the UN after the the PanAm 103 bombing and and some bombings of things in Germany at disco and a
Couple of uh train stations in different parts of Europe that they blamed on the libyans although it’s doubtful that they were actually involved at all I mean even some of the victim’s families became activists for the guy who was convicted blowing up yeah of blowing up
The uh PanAm uh flight 103 the lockerby bombing people will have heard will know it as blew up over Scotland um because it just didn’t make any sense but they it it worked for long enough to convince like the no fly zone thing later they managed to convince the uh the the rest
Of the UN Security Council because this is three permanent members of it the US the UK and France that were responsible for the for the 2011 um War uh they convinced the other members to uh to impose these sanctions and uh inflation went through the roof uh pay
Stagnated uh you know multiply what we’re seeing now in the Western countries by about a th% and you’ve got what they did to Libya and yet despite all that they still had the highest human development index in Africa they had the highest average salary in Africa the best education the the best health
Care System Gaddafi and his government for you know whatever their quirks and foibles you don’t have to like them you don’t have to agree with their ideology or any of that but they managed to do all that despite being under sanctions and threats of war and actual bombings periodically by the world’s greatest
Military power for 50 years 40 years and and this is only anecdotal but um in 1995 just after uh I was married uh where I was renting the the the heer went on the fritz so the owner was Libyan he sent around his cousin the plumber Libyan plumber and so we’re
Chatting and he we’re talking about Libya and I didn’t know very much about Libya and he told me that as a Libyan he got about $5,000 a year sent to him as a check by the Libyan government even though he lived in Australia that was his share of the country’s oil Revenue
Yeah the any surplus oil Revenue each year was dispersed to the population yeah and he he got it in Australia um and uh and yeah what they what he couldn’t do though was get these get contractors in to fix these dams and a bunch of other infrastructure they did what they
Could domestically and and with other partners that were willing to make the Investments and help them out with things but uh these this you know between the political instability that was also fostered from the outside um and the and the sanctions that made private companies afraid to do business
In Libya especially with anything state owned which this was you know these dams were owned and maint owned and operated by the the state uh Water Authority um that was subject to sanctions that you had needed to get a waiver from that could be rescinded at
Any time and so they couldn’t get until 2007 because the Americans the UNC lifted its sanctions in 2003 2004 once they were satisi satisfied that Libya wasn’t sponsoring terrorism and had given up its weapons of mass destruction uh the Americans and the British but in this case the most effect was from the
Americans um found excuses to extend their sanctions for another 3 or four years so it’s only in 2007 that they get this Turkish company in um to have a look at the dams and and put up a proposal you know how and and then negotiate the contract of how they’re
Going to fix them they start in 2010 five months later boom it’s all off and so nothing’s been fixed in the meantime and that’s why these probably 20 odd th000 people at least 11 a half thousand according to the red crescent are dead now and that city is destroyed and will
Probably never be rebuilt 40,000 people displaced um that’s why that’s who did it and it’s it’s so important to know these details and there’s probably um you know the Iraq war is is is is much more welln but when you understand the full story of Libya I mean it it’s
Almost up it almost ranks beside Iraq as the war crime of the 21st century and and you would also agree that it’s what more than anything else it destroyed any trust that may have been left between the Russians and the anglo-americans that the LIE Obama Obama guaranteed the Russians if
They didn’t veto the Libya intervent vention in the security Council The noly Zone yeah it wouldn’t turn into a regime change war and it was a lie and Putin wasn’t president then he he was prime minister and he broke ranks and and said and and disagreed publicly with the then
President midv War don’t don’t go along with this y they’re going to he told he warned him and got officially reprimanded for it and they let it happen and and since then uh midre has become more Andy Weston than Putin ever was and there’s so many knock on effects
There’s so many knock on effects not just this this terrible disaster the last few weeks but the almost the whole European Refugee crisis from North Africa is entirely because of this this Libyan war and they were warned about that as well North Korea arming up is entirely because of this new because
When GFI gave up his weapons of mass destruction in order to be accepted by the west and they killed him the North Koreans said no way no how we we’re never going to give up our weapons and mass destruction and they developed nuclear icbms because of that they
Didn’t have them before no exactly and these are this is entirely on the west the the Brits the Americans and the um the French and their blood and all their hangers on andali as well and yeah exactly all right we are definitely out of time um I’m I’m I’m I’m feeling sorry
For the producer he’s not feeling too well today so let’s let’s um give him a give him one minute grace um we’re going to say goodbye remember the serious to this conversation we usually like talking about good news about Banks we gave you an update on that but these are
Two very very serious issues especially this absolutely appalling State of Affairs where because of the hatred of Russia which we are indoctrinated to have Nazis the Nazis are now openly walking Among Us don’t accept it help us fight it you’ll see material will put out about this Con challenging members
Of parliament challenge everybody why is this being allowed to happen um with that said we’re at time so Richard thanks very much for joining us today your insights and information as usual have been invaluable thanks to the viewer for tuning in tune in next week for more of the citizens Report authorized by Robert Bock citizens party Melbourne
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