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Versus cast politics is that going to be the dividing line that’s our face off tonight also we’ll be remembering the one and only bishan Singh b a special interview that I did with him and his son angad B that’ll be there on the news today but first as always it’s time for
The N9 headlines at 9 prime minister Narendra Modi makes a ram Mand pitch on dasera says next Ram Nai will be held in aodha Ram Mand also says cast is being used to divide the country must be rooted out in a indirect attack on the cast census RSS Chief moan bhagwat claims
External forces were behind ethnic violence in Manipur accuses leftwing forces of dividing Society Congress hits back says why does the prime minister break his silence on Manipur first Israeli forces say they are ready for a fullscale ground assault in Gaza but awaiting a political nod Hamas releases two Israeli hostages on humanitarian Grounds gaza’s worsening fuel shortage plunges it into a healthc care crisis World Health Organization says nearly 2/3 of gaza’s Health Facilities have seized fun functioning it’s Sena versus SAA once again in a show of strength at the annual dasera rallies in Maharashtra chief minister shinde burns the ravan
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Latest report projects India as the fifth largest economy says it is on track to surpass Japan as the third largest global economy by 2030 and Cricket Legend bishan Singh B’s last rights held in New Delhi from capil D to vinder seag stalwarts across Generations pay tribute China replaces its missing defense
Minister after 2 months since his disappearance from the public eye no explanation for his ouer Given but tonight’s top story prime minister Narendra Modi attended the traditional dashera celebrations in Delhi on this Vijay Dashi organ occasion the Prime Minister declared that the next Ram Nami will be celebrated at the new Ram Mand and aodha he claimed some elements are dividing India on the basis
Of religion cast and region and urge people to end a eval the prime minister’s remarks are being seen as a Prelude to the bjp’s 20124 campaign where they are expected to make the ram Mand a central plank listen In m R Bhan r For So the prime minister using the occasion in a way to invoke Lord Ram now this is also of course the day when the traditional Vijay dashmi rall is held by the RSS and this time moan bhagwat delivered what could be seen as perhaps his most political address yet bhagwat
Urged people to unite against what he called external and domestic forces that are trying to divide the country even blamed external factors for the Manipur ethnic clashes lashed out at leftwing forces and he said that the people of the country must vote wisely in next year’s elections take a look at moan
Bhagat’s political Pitch unity in diversity social harmony these were the themes in RSS sanchalak Mohan bhagat’s VI Dashi address the head of the S parivar blamed external forces for the ethnic tensions that have gripped Manipur for months Now Chief lashed out at leftwing forces accusing them of creating divide in society Mar warned against a deteriorating discourse in the country but did not specifically mention hate Speech he stressed that Devotion to bhat mat is the basis for Unity in a speech that lasted 50 minutes bhagat advised citizens to vote wisely and urged countrymen to celebrate at local temples the day Ram Mand is opened Bureau report India today let’s then turn to our face off
Tonight are the BJP and RSS getting set to play The Ram card once again ahead of the 2024 elections is the Battle of 2024 going to be as the BJP and RSS claim Hindu Unity versus cast sensus politics that’s going to be the big talking point
Joining me now Dr Ajay alok is Spokes person BJP and moan Kumar manglam is National spokesperson of the Congress Dr a Alo let’s get this very clear from what I gather from the Prime Minister speech and moan bhagwat speech the BJP seems determined that the ram Mand
Likely to be inaugurated on the 22nd of January will be part of your political pitch is the BJP trying to suggest that the ram Mand will unify Hindus versus what you see are the Divi divisive forces pushing for a cast sensus well Raj today first of all happy
Vijay dashmi to all our fellow countrymen and to you also thank you and second thing Ram has always been an emotional part of every Indian I won’t say Hindu here I’ll say every Indian Hindu of course but Ram has been an integral part of every hindian and today
On the occasion of VI Tashi moan bhagwat or for that matter Prime Minister Modi if they won’t speak of ram then what they’ll speak of are they going to speak about Rome no obviously they’ll speak about Ram so that’s what they did mhm and as far as the cast politics goes and
The cast senses goes well let me remind you here you are talking to a leader who represents the EVC of this country extreme backward and backward class of count is being represented by none other than Prime Minister Modi who himself belongs to the same cast so we
Are not afraid of that cast sensous politics and all today what do we are concerned with that how India is going to progress further and that’s what was the main Vision in the whole speech when the Prime Minister reminded country and requested the country to take those 10
Oaths what we need to do on this vij Dashi second thing Ram has always been an integral part of the BJP Moto Ram Mand has is a one emotive issue through which all the B party CER worker leader everybody is inclined to and we are not
Ashamed of it it has always been in our part it has always been in our Manifesto it has always been in our doings so Ram Mand whether elections or no elections it’s always there so there’s nothing like opposition is coming and playing with the cast senses and we are going to
We are going to Da with ra so saying Ram Mand is not you’re saying Ram Mand is not a response it’s our tough okay you’re saying Ram Mand is not a response to the cast census politics being played by the oppos position uh but Mo Kumar
Mangl you want to respond the BJP says look Ram is an emotive issue for us we played we are not apologetic about it we have a ram Mand that they that will come up on the 22nd of January a date has been given by moan bhagwat and therefore
This is part of our political agenda that’s what the Prime Minister and moan bhagwat seem to be suggesting it’s all but Raj has always been part of the agenda so that’s one place where I would say that I found Mr bhagat’s speech to be consistent with their view their world view of cultural
Nationalism and how India is and the idea of India so if you look at you know I found parts of his speech to be consistent with his ideology part to be frankly contradictory and part to be actually scary and let me break that up into three different pieces and tell you
The consistent part is you know he started off his speech talking about India’s growing sture on the world stage about how G20 was great and how we won so many medals in the Asian Games and then he transitions that immediately to saying that that’s because we have a
Shared ideal and that ideal is manifested in Lord Rah so you know there is his base of cultural nationalism coming in that was consistent what I found worrisome about his speech was his reference to what he terms wokeism or cultural Marxism now that actually is the language of the extreme hard right
In the Western World cultural Marxism was a term that was actually used by Anders brevik the Norwegian terrorist who shot 77 people in cold blood in his Manifesto it is a term that’s used to oppose all Progressive movements across the world that Encompass movements for social justice movements Against Racism
Movements against discrimination so I’m really wondering why Mr bhagat has taken such a hard sort of Nazi style u approach towards this term as well towards wokeism wokeism comes from the African-American vernacular where it’s about being awake and someone who’s risen to the social discrimination around them maybe you know at that point
I thought okay this is inconsistent but you know his organization is based in religion which perpetuates beliefs whereas challenging beliefs which is what rism is about the third part of his speech is really one where he hints about being against the cast sensus because he goes into this sort of uh
Diet tribe about victimhood and how being a victim is bad and that you know when the country is growing everybody wants a piece of the pie but people need to have Blind Faith in the fact that they will at some point get their piece
Of pie and not try to grab it by any which way which I think he means is that you shouldn’t ask for more representation than you have right now which is what the whole goal of the cast census is to begin with is to have representation in positions of power in
Government in the executive so I think that was a ND to against the cast census you know finally he spoke a lot he spoke extensively about unity and diversity he spoke about promoting Brotherhood he spoke about all all these things maybe in a way there was a knock against his
Own party the BJP because there anyone who plays divisive politics it is the BJP right from the Prime Minister saying that I can tell criminals by their clo to the bjp’s Prime Minister inviting Mr Yogi adityan saying that he doesn’t need the 20% vote he’s happy with the 80%
Vote so maybe there is actually some sort of admonishment of his own party there in that right in that di tribe about unity and diversity can I can I just you’ve given your assessment of of more on bhagwat speech what is a a theme though is this constant search for an
Enemy Dr Ajay Alo cultural marxists leftist those who are seem to be dividing on the basis what who he claims are dividing on the basis of car even Manipur he blames on foreign forces that are responsible for the violence in Manipur this constant search for an enemy instead of identifying what has
Gone wrong with our own governance perhaps in Manipur for example why always look for the you know suggest that someone out there is external threat who’s threatening this uh country surely our our country’s nationalism is strong enough and we should be addressing the issues of Manipur rather
Than looking at the external threat this seems to be also a recurrent theme at the moment can you guarantee Raj that there’s no external threat to the country on your show can you guarantee that there is can you can you guarantee that there has been no failure of
Governance can you guarantee me that there has been no failure of governance when I ask you a question I expect an answer not a counter question no why not I counting my question that whenever there is an AB whenever things go wrong you blame an external Force that’s my question coming to Manipur
Don’t be impatient yes don’t be impatient when you have answered me asked me a question I’m I’m supposed to answer that and I’m also supposed to answer my Congress friend’s answer yes now he said now he said nationalism cultural nationalism and then he took out that extreme Nazis
Mentality and all that you have to uh just destroy your enemy and all this sir that is called as extreme nationalism there’s nothing extreme nationalism in India whether it is in RSS or BJP neither extreme nationalism or nothing it’s only nationalism which we are proud of Number One MH secondly you said about
Valkism and left left maist and not but do you support the ma maist ideology you are a do you support maist in this country should they exist in the name of diversity Dr exist in the name of let me compl no Dr Al say you cannot compare maoism to what is let me
Complete then you can answer let him complete and let you respond I let you respond complete Listen to listen so do you support the Marxist ideology if it if it exists in this country do you support the ultra leftist ideology what has been followed by CH
China do you support that to be existed in the country in the name of diversity do you support the extremist ideology followed by Islamic radicals or for that matter khalistani radicals what is being supported in this country at many times by your own party when you support I
Repeat when you support Muslim League in Kerala and Rahul Gandhi said that it’s a secular party whether this kind of ideology can be promoted in this country no I’m sorry my dear friend in the name of diversity this kind of ideology cannot be supported cannot be propagated
And the one who does it they are the divisive forces and that’s what Mr bhagwat was referring to and if that irks you that’s not our problem that’s not the India’s problem that’s your problem letum second now let me talk now let me talk I you out Dr you know what the
Problem is the problem is that you people have forgotten that the weap the sharpest weapon is a mind maybe you should have sharpened your mind instead of actually taking time to go and pray to physical weapons today now Ultra left ideologies have nothing to do with what
The ultra hard right in Western uh countries today whether that be Europe or America have referred to as cultural Marxism it has nothing to do with it please go and educate yourself on what this movement is about what bism is about before you use those terms in a complete Ely incorrect fashion I’m
Assuming you are not educated on them versus being completely disingenuous in the way you are explaining them so first of all do you endorse what Anders bevic rer to as cultural you know do you know first of all the Norwegian terrorist that I referred to why he actually
Gunned down 77 people he was against multiculturalism in Europe he was against multiculturalism that Mr bhagwat spoke about extensively today in his speech so either Mr bhagwat doesn’t know what he’s talking about I’m sure that you certainly don’t know what you’re talking about when you’re criticizing wokeism as well as cultural
Marxism as it’s referred to by the right no so moan kumara mangalam are you suggesting that moan bhagwat when he talks of unity he’s talking of unity of a particular culture of particular religion when he singles out as you said cultural Marxist moan Kumar mangam are
You saying that he singling out uh a particular group with a particular mindset how do you see it are you saying that it is Mo bhagat who dividing are you saying it is Mo bhagat who dividing Society this goes without saying listen let me for example for a minute let me
Give moan bhagwat the benefit of Doubt and let me just say that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about because if he spend a large proportion of his speech talking about unity in all society and I mean minorities included which his party has known to dispar every chance they
Get then I would say that he has no idea what cultural Marxism is or what bism is and therefore he has referred to it incorrectly in his in his passion for finding a bogie for finding a foreign enemy for finding something he could refer to some set of people that he can
Isolate and other so as to point his flock towards a common enemy this is essentially the modus operandi to begin with they will never have be able to finish the speech without pointing to either a sort of invisible enemy as he has done with Manipur some foreign Force
He says and or uh you know someone within the country who they can isolate for their vot Bank politics so you know who at the in a way aay Alo one finds that one of the battles for 2024 is contrasting views of what is vote Bank Politics the moan kumara manglam view
Presumably would be that the BJP is playing to a Hindu vote Bank from Mr bhagwat speech and the Prime Minister speech one gets a sense that the opposition is being accused of playing cast based vot Bank politics that you’re dividing the country on the basis of
Cast by pushing for a cast census a cast survey was done in your home state of Bihar it almost seems that the template for 2024 is being set as cast versus religious identity that’s the political template both sides playing their own version of vote Bank politics each one looking for an enemy
Outside first of all rajdeep let me tell you and Mr Mohan Kumar mangalam that you don’t understand India by the prism of Europe and Central Europe and Norway extreme nationalism or extreme right is a concept might be a concept in America or Europe it’s not a concept in
India it has never been had India been extreme right there wouldn’t have been secularism so-called secularism what you say all all the time so if you have to understand India please see according to the Optics of India and thanks to your intellectual bankruptcy you don’t understand what m bhagwat is speaking
About now coming to the now coming to the cast thing this is they are trying to fiddle out that’s what I’m saying the one who has mundle in his brains and Comm in his heart you cannot fight with him okay so forget about that plank that you can play there mle two
And mle three keep on doing it the champion is sitting on the other side of yours now you don’t understand India you are trying to do bation politics all the time like this is the third debate I’m participating in every Congress spokesperson is speaking about 8 20 what
Is this at20 yet no but you spoke and then one minute it was Yogi adityan ahead of the2 election of20 when Yogi when Yogi Adan R deep listen to me when Yogi adiat said at20 it was on the result Mandate of 2017 when BJP on its own an NDA
Secured 354 out of 404 that was2 not on the is2 is it a coin Mr isn’t it a isn’t a coincidence that 80% of the majority Community hind 20% are Muslim are you telling me he was not referring to Hindu Muslim are you telling me he
Was not referring to Hindu Muslim let me complete one line tell listen to me more yeah yes was he referring to Hindu Muslim when he spoke of 1820 he was referring to no no he was not he was refering to the Mandate the BJP and NDA got in 2017 okay
Now even if it is Hindu Muslim let’s take it for that I I’ll just clear your doubts even if it is Hindu Muslim so how does it make a difference to Askin we are the one party who who who starts with minus 20 and still we get the
Majority but then you’re playing your own version of vtic opposition keep on talking at20 that acts to our advantage no no no no that acts to our advantage because they are in a habit of vot Bank politics we are not in a habit of vot Bank politics we are in a habit of
Country Bank politics okay we will pursue Country Bank politics Country Bank politics that’s a new word you’ve used let me turn to you more Kumar manglam on the other side the opposition and this has been one of the slogans that Rahul Gandhi has been using my on the basis of my population I
Will get representation that will also be seen as a way of dividing Society Raj if I were to take that Quee then Babas ambedkar was the most divisive figure in our po he’s the one who actually will championed rights for dalits for reservation for dalits in our constitution we’re talking about
Reservation in government jobs and positions of power in the executive for obcs would you call that divisive I would call that accurate representation you could take any representation of divisive by that argument I’m sorry I don’t agree with that at all no no my my limited point is is the
Template Manan kumara mangam being set for 2024 and what we saw today is a reflection of what’s going to happen in the next 6 months the BJP will talk about a unified Hindu constituency and the Congress and the opposition wants to talk about what they believe are the
Fault lines that exist on the base of cast that you believe deserve greater representation that’s going to be the the dividing I I don’t think it’ll be cast with versus religion I think the country is facing uh numerous challenges on many fronts like as we’ve been talking about unemployment we’ve been
Talking about inflation we’ve been talking about income equality inequality at nauseum and these are some of the biggest issues that are facing us today so I think in addition to this we will bring up the issue of representation and I think primarily because the bjp’s ideology does not allow them to take a
Clear stand on this most of their answers have been wishy-washy referring to the Prime Minister as NOC so he knows they are unable to articulate a clear position on this and I think that’s why that’s also one of the reasons why we are being so clear about why we want
That okay let me leave it there I’ve heard two viewpoints two stock viewpoints on this Ram Nai on this dasera day I wish both of you once again a happy dasera and I hope that you will follow What mo bhagwad said that we will have debates but they will not be
Acrimonious and divisive in the future each party will have a chance to reach out to the voter Dr a alok more Kumar manglam appreciate you joining me here on my top talking point let’s turn let’s turn from there to our other big story of the day the Israel Hamas
Conflict okay now Hamas has released two more hostages both Israelis Hamas claiming that the elderly women were released on humanitarian grounds but more than 200 people are still hostage in Hamas hands families of the hostages are pressurizing the Israeli government to ensure their release it’s our ground report tonight Hamas releases two more
Hostages the Israeli women were freed after mediation by Qatar and Egypt nurit kooper and yed lifshits both in their 80s were taken hostage by Hamas from their homes in kibuts NEOS Israel during the terror attack on October 7th while she was being taken she was hit by Sticks by shabab shabab yeah
Shabab PE people Hamas claimed it was releasing the hostages on humanitarian and health grounds though their husbands still remain in heras Custody let them stop aggression and you will find the mediators like qar and some Arab countries like Egypt and others they will find the way to have them released and we will send them to their families as they were released one of the hostages shook hands with the Hamas fighter and called for
Peace Tel Aviv said videos that show Hamas treating hostages well are part of Mind Games the terrorist outfit is playing Egypt plays a key role on the issue of the hostages and missing people the efforts that it is putting into the issue are effective and appreciated we are working with Egypt in the
Cooperation and are grateful for Egypt and the Red Cross for their work on this issue Israel has stressed there will be no ceasefire till all hostages are freed by Hamas the United States has backed Israel stand is the US supporting the hostages for ceasefire deal why did you we should have a
Ceasefire should have Hamas is still holding more than 200 innocent civilians as hostages while Israel has intensified his bombardment of Gaza to exert more pressure on Hamas negotiations are happening alongside to obtain the freedom of hostages Bureau report India today now the Cricket World today Bid Farewell to Legend bishan Singh B the
Champion Spinners last rights were performed today in the national capital cricketing fraternity across Generations gathered from Kapil D and madanlal and kirti Azar to vender seag and Zahir Khan all of them paying tributes to the man who was always known as the Sardar of spin B passed away on Monday following a
Prolonged illness at the age of 77 and in a moment from now I’ll play back an special interview that I did with bishan Singh B and his son angad B in our India Today India tomorrow series we will remember the one and only bishan Singh B that’s on the other side
Remembering bishan Singh b a special interview with the Legend and his son on the other side you’re watching the news Today you are watching India Today powered by finessed be of able change a B&P Group Company Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as Vibrant Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as Vibrant Hello and welcome to another episode of India today India tomorrow where we cut across generations to bring you a slice of life and history today we are joined by another very special pair please welcome bishan Singh B the legendary former Indian cricketer and his son
Angard B now becoming a star in his own right in the world of Hindi Cinema thank you both very much for joining us welcome uh thank you sir it’s a lovely introduction let me also being too kind I have to say that not only are you
Saying too kind but I must tell the the father that before the interview Ang told me I don’t know what I’m doing here you know here is this big star that you are interviewing bishan Singh B my father and here I am an actor making his way in Hindi Cinema he seemed almost
Diffident or almost intimidated by your presence you intimidate your son no I hope not because very recently that I hope first first got me slightly somebody asked me yes you’s father aren’t you I said no he’s my son yeah I prefer it like that so finally you you mean
Finally there are people in introducing bishan Singh b as angad B that is the way I would like to be known father yeah angad’s father yeah so it must be a source of great pride for you because at one level I presume you would have wanted him to become a left arm spinner
For India because he was an under 15 under 19 cricketer is that a is that a regret that you’re son didn’t follow your footsteps not really I’ve had no regrets in my life never honestly this is uh he was destined for the Celluloid world so be
It I said yeah look at it because uh when it came to Cricket I’ll be very honest he thought being Bish B son is good enough I should leave this interview right now because this is going I told you when it’s going to begin it’s going down it’s going
Down no dad you got to stop list it was never I never thought like that I have to in my defense I never thought like that okay fine because you were not it was not at all when I say not at all you know hardworking in the
Sense well if somebody ran 36 rounds as a punishment there’s no running there’s no no no hold on let me understand this let me understand this from angut is it true that as a 12 13 year old your father literally drove you to try and become a cricketer and you almost
Rebelled against it you mentioned 36 rounds I’ve heard this story that you came late once for a match your father made you run 30 rounds or run from the ground at National Stadium all the way to rashtrapati ban Captain do on a bicycle p no what I what did he do let
Me listen to this I was running with them no you weren’t no you weren’t so I tell you story it’s a very interesting story I remember it was a game in National Stadium now OB it’s called the danan Chan Stadium uh it was against the British High commission we used to play
A lot of games against them and he had declared lunch so then I went to the canteen to you know get myself a drink and the canteen next to the opposite stadium was shut so I had to go all the way to the other side where the uh the
Pool was so I went there by the time I came back he had started the game mhm now in my defense it was declared lunch the lunch didn’t come on time so then I went to have a drink and by the time I got back they were already in the game
And they had like the first over was being bold mhm he’s spotted me from there he said what are you doing you know and he yelled at me and I just got startled he said okay as a punishment from here you going to start running to
Rash rashti B and then you’re going to stride back and then he had Captain DOA at that time he made him sit on a bicycle while the game was going on and then he was behind me so then I I actually had to do it in a fraction of
Like 20 minutes I have to go 7 and a half k i 7 and half kilm that run was and I got back and then he made and then the other punishment was that it was a 35 over game I remember in the month of
Uh June it was and uh he didn’t let me Bowl so I was just I just I just was there you were a very hard Taskmaster on your he was a 12 13 year old you say that you know he thought that he had already arrived as bishan Singh B’s son he
Wanted to play the let me tell you something he was very good you were what a left arm spinner it it was very good a left arm spinner it was as 13 he was outstanding okay when he played under 16 he was outstanding and then suddenly he
Lost his head because uh you see when you’re young and I remember having told him when he left Cricket for for the films in Bombay um I told him I said your biggest um Misfortune is that you didn’t have a father like mine and you didn’t have a coach like
Mine who could you know put your ability together um but then again you see I don’t really blame him now I can analyze it because the youth in Delhi okay has always had a tendency to get carried away by the parental blessings no but I can I can in a way
Identify with him because my father was a t my father was a test cricketer and even if I scored a 50 it wasn’t good enough because I was told that you’ve got to score 100 you know if you come from a cricketing family or a sporting
Family do you think it’s easier or more difficult what I have always believed that in any Walk of Life if you want to excel the word is Excellence because there’s no way any any human being could ever be perfect Perfection is out definitely out Excellence yes you can
Work for it that can only be achieved if you have a fair amount of obsession and that he apparently showed it in abundance when he joined appeared before the camera so did you not have the junun he used that word the junun the drive to become a
Test cricketer you played under 15 you played under 19 but according to him somewhere down the way you lost your way no I just got tired you know when you do 30 rounds then your body give stop hoing about it your body does your body does give way
Like by the time I would reach the Nets my legs would get tired you know then he said you lose control over the ball then your delivery sty yes you know there are things that when you are growing up you know the see now I’ll tell you he said
At 13 I was good thanks Dad that’s the first ever time you said you paid me compliment I actually I’m pretty glad I said you’re very good you’re very good but I’ll tell you what so I shot up in height I remember because I very you
Know strong me etched memories of my um under 16 under 19 days so I I think around 14 or I started off well I played a game against Himachal I remember on debut I got eight wickets it was the vi Merchant trophy three day three-day game
It used to be 3 four and the if you went into the Knockouts the games used to be for 4 days M and and uh after that you know my delivery stride became big you know so then I used he he I was corrected for that and then I became
Slightly more side on he had a very good bowling action I’m telling you but I had also told him I said look you are playing for an organization which is going to pounce on you given half an opportunity what they could what they couldn’t do to me they’ll try and do it
To you so this is where he was affected also were you luckier growing up in Amritsar did you have the same pressure that he had was your father as demanding as you were with him would your father make you run 30 rounds if you came 5
Minutes late to a game I wasn’t no my father never saw me play he never saw you play no I I in fact I used to tell him come and you know come to Delhi and see the Test match he said no I listen to commentary he knows how me play so
What what what drove you to the game of Cricket in the 50s and 60s I believe as a 12-year-old were already bowling five and six hours you played ranji trophy at 15 or 16 and you were playing for India at 21 yes well I I think I was very
Lucky I’ve I got the breaks at the right time and uh but where did this junun come from where did the junun come from I don’t know I think I she Providence honestly and uh I nobody in your family was playing this sport no and you were
The youngest I think of you had three Elder sisters four four four Elder sisters the youngest and I you must have been the Pampered child no I wasn’t I wasn’t but I took up this game because I was very chubby little kid to get fit to lose weight to lose weight that’s all
Then you should have been the fast bowler yeah I used to bowl quick really I us should B quick left arm you know and then suddenly my um Jim Jim Captain he said no you not got out for hor bowling see if you can take up spin I
Said okay I tried and he was mighty impressed but my coach in Amel Gan prash M okay that was I tell you it was most outstanding human being I ever met Gan prash and my father’s name was Gan Singh I had a lot of gan from both of
Them wonderful he never told me what to do never ever where did your action come this classical action which the world celebrated was it something that you saw someone bowling did you see a film no it just happened I never okay I might have modeled myself on after many years I read hle
V’s book and saw his buling action might model it in inant you know but uh my favorite bowler at that time was subash gup the great leg SP yeah because I remember my the real Jo and me came around when I heard subash gup picking up nine wickets against West Indi in
Kour again on radio pris not on TV no on radio no TV at all so you heard about subash gupte taking nine wickets against the West Indies and 59 on radio and you suddenly decided you wanted to be a I suddenly decided this is no that is why
When it became a bit of a j and there was nothing else to do in am nothing else to do I promise you and I remember the only entertainment I can think of at that time was on Wednesdays when we used to listen to Baka Mala I mean
Sh 16 of those F you know week’s best songs and I saw my first film in a theater when I was good 19 and a half I had never seen a film you remember the film uh I think it was G this ganga at 19 and a half was your
First film must have seen your first film when he was born you were born virtually I mean theat born in the theater you were born in a in an operation theater in the operation theater but but buta I’ll tell you I’ll tell you yes the reason also for me
Having this passion for Cinema is through him through me yes he he used to uh obviously he’s a big theep Sab fan you know he uh and uh my cousin from his side in defense Colony used to run a VHS shop so he used
To take me there when we used to stay in punch Enclave every second day mhm and he used to also want to watch what he used to want to watch so he used to take his film and then I used to take Mr ban films okay and that’s how the whole
Journey began so are you saying that from a young age you always preferred Cinema over Cricket it was only your father forcing you onto the M left to yourself you would rather sit and watch a a film in that VHS shop so I was a 7-year-old mhm and we had just moved to
The farm in 1991 91 yeah 91 91 and in the garden he took me one day and he just there was a ball lying there he said throw the ball you know he said figure it out how you want to throw it so I picked it up from I have this
Memory I picked it up from my left arm and I rolled it and I threw it and then he saw he didn’t say anything he said and I realized uh much later when I for when he when were I remember the first ever time I went to National Stadium
There were all these young kids used to run up to him and come up to him and used to always especially the bowlers used to make them Bowl leg break for a right arm person the leg break and for a left arm uh left-hander the China man
Right now the reason being I remember very clearly he said because if you’re bowling a leg break you cannot bend your elbow so your arm will always be straight when you have to bow the delivery right so you know that was a practice I didn’t realize so uh which he
Used to make me do so when I started off he used to make me Bowl the China man right he said your muscles and your bones will get stronger and you will not have an issue of bending it because you know so then then he used to make me
Bowl from 10 yards he said you will not Bowl 22 yards he used to go he said you’ll run up there from 10 yards you’ll start bowling bowling then he got me accustomed to 12 yards then 15 yards then slowly he got me to the 22 yard
Thing and then once I was accustomed then he said now try but did you want to be a cricketer or did you want to be a cinema star like amab bachan did you want to be a cricketer like bishan Singh Bei or had those VHS films inspired you enough to
Say I want to be a film star like amab B when uh when I played when I was 13 I was I had seen a lot of Mr ban films till then I used to see his films actually repeat them you know at least four five times because I used to be
Fascinated by this personality because the way he ran the way he was miss out on all this and and then I used to go to the ground and I used to enjoy the process of bowling but by the time I used to reach the process of bowling I
Used to be exhausted because for him physical conditioning you know was the most important thing so cricket was punishment and Cinema was entertainment C CA was was your way of getting away from all those hours of torture that he would put you in he used to have a great
Way of making me train in the day then he used to sit and watch the film with me also so I used to really value that and in fact today uh had I not gone through that grind uh sir you know of training and even those punishments like
He had used to always say he said that if I have to set an example for me I have to punish you first because you are as good as anybody else if I’m training other people’s children I should not be favoring you so I have to set an example
So I should not understand that but today uh you know I have a I though I’m working in the film industry it’s the you know it’s the best industry for me to work in but it’s also the toughest profession I feel it’s even tougher than any sport because here it’s like each
Man to themselves you know and for only if you have a great Sportsman spirit will you be able to survive retake you know he can he can do retakes he can make himself look good on a cricket field no ret or or in a sports field in any sport the margin between
Victory and defeat is very very thin I believe Excellence whether in sport or in any vocal life you got to really work for it and Excellence doesn’t come you know the F flip of coin no that is my way of looking at it and
I again I have to go back to his younger days he wasn’t a terribly good student of the game I dare say he is not a terribly good student of film industry also because he doesn’t read much you know what is happening in front of the camera
He must know what is happening behind the camera also that is my personal you know urge that he should now that he’s in the film industry he should know everything about production from dire he should know the history of of Cinema yeah of course he must read but that’s
Because bishan Singh B knew the history of Cricket the sun must know the history of Cinema are you being again unfair to your son no I’m not being unfair I’m just this is my urge it is his life is that how you saw yourself as a cricketer
Not just someone who bold but someone who saw himself as part of this great tradition of the sport and therefore you sort of embraced and soaked in the traditions of the sport you’re you’re a traditionalist I’m still a good student of the game still I read a lot about the
Game which is why you don’t like the IPL oh IPL is rotten absolutely R but I’m told Ang tells me every night you were watching the IPL games I do yeah he watches the most of the games in the final analysis it’s a game of cricket I
May not like the ambience of it at all but I’m watching Cricket but I’ve asked you this before if you were if if this you know turn the clock back to uh to 30 years and you were let’s say in I in there was the IPL in the 1970s and
Suppose your name was auction bishan Singh B 10 CR Del dead Devils bishan B would have never been auctioned let me show you that you would have never been auction you so you wouldn’t have played the IPL no not at all you’re certain of that absolutely number one I don’t quite
Like the way it’s going on but also listen one of the reasons why I used to be work very hard with the youngsters I was a terrible athlete myself terrible honestly and I wanted these kids to at least as far as athleticism concerned they should Excel there and when it’s time
To um excel in skills if you’re a good athlete you you can be very skillful footballer or a hockey player or a cricketer but first and foremost thing is to be a good athlete which we weren’t told honestly you know you were you are the ultimate rebel I in my book I called
You in the 1970s a a George Fernandez the sort of Rebel of of Indian sport in those in that in that day and age to that extent you believe this generation is much less rebellious you were a natural Rebel listen I wasn’t a rebel I wasn’t let let’s get I wasn’t he said
You still are 72 you’re still a rebel was you’re the angry reel no I’m not let me show you this I could stand up and take a stand you know on on any issue which concerned cricket and the team I was involved in I wasn’t going to sit quiet that was my
Temperament I remember as a a little kid must have been 13 I first came from Amisa to Delhi and we were sitting at a stupid old long room in DDC then waiting for somebody I arrived in the morning was nobody tell me what time we have to take
The train in the evening from madr and eventually the big man of DDC RP Mara he arrives and I was sitting on my trunk I remember that when he arrived so I just stood up and I you know folded my hand I said Namaste Shi like this you
Know and Shahi you know he had a [ __ ] in his and he he looked at me like this and noded head there was only a kid and I thought surely this man could have you know said no you already a test cricketer no I was 13 you were 13 I was playing for
Schools not schools at the age of 13 when I saw this man behaving like you know he was Mr cricketer Delhi of North Jon then I said bishan Singh B you will not wish this man again so basically your anger against officials began as a 13-year-old not
Anger my anger was that he doesn’t even know how to respond to a greeting from a young kid are you still are you still as angry as ever Cricket for me is not just a sport with it’s a religion no it’s a way of life it’s more than religion it’s how you live
It Cricket is not played with wood and leather it’s is you live it it’s like someone the the great Liverpool coach who once said football is not just life and death it’s much more it is it is you know how you how you carry yourself Cricket is all about honesty integrity
Uprightness and if I was found wanting on any of these issues I would own it up but if I have taken up a stand against the board officials or against some of the officials in England or in Australia no no regrets for all those tussles that
You had in the 1970s with the board officials no none whatsoever all through your life one of your big Ambitions bishan B was to defeat Mumbai in cricket matches and look at what has happened after all these years your son has gone and settled in Mumbai in the Bollywood
Industry that’s right yeah I tell you we used to call Bombay enemy territory Bombay was enemy territory he’s gone into enemy territory is made there this is pure and simple fate and destiny nothing else I’ve always envied the cricket culture and Bombay because Delhi is terrible as far as
Cricket is concerned and I used to look up to Bombay with a fair amount of uh Zeal and envy that if they can do it why can’t we be consistent that’s it on this very special show thanks for watching bye for Now You are watching India Today powered by finessed be sustainable change a B&B Group Company Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as Vibrant Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as Vibrant Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as Vibrant You are watching India Today powered by finessed B sustainable change a B&P Group Company Colors by Cola makes you wish everything was as vibrant get ready for an immersive Journey Into the Heart of news politics and insights that matter join India today now on WhatsApp with the number one election team as we gear up for the upcoming assembly elections scan the QR
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Front lines of the Israel versus Hamas War I’m standing here on the beach of the city of ashalon it’s still very much a ghost town completely abandoned the people people have left because this is Israel’s capital of Rocket attacks this city bore the brunt of Hamas rockets on
October the 7th and ever since every single day multiple rocket attacks continue to happen and the sirens have just become a part of normal life today I’m here in ashil on Israel but India today’s gor of savant also joins me on this live broadcast but he is back in
India gorov you were among the first Indian journalist to report from the front line here uh you know I’ve been traveling to many of the places where you and I reported from over the last few days how does it feel first of all to be back home Israel misses [Applause]
You shiv it’s good to be back home but that war still rages and is likely to intensify in the days and weeks ahead uh do stay out of Harm’s Way as you report from the front lines of this war ashon as you very rightly point out shiv is
The capital of the receiving end of Hamas Rockets directly in the line of Hamas fire while we were reporting from there um Rockets would fall
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