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On November 16th is the next information we have right from police and and chief fry makes a statement reviewing the four victims and confirming they were stabbed to death November 30th the the visual honoring of the victims where the footage has since been taken down but a

Lot of their family members talked and everything um honoring them you know um I don’t think it’s taken down it’s it’s hard to find the whole thing very hard to find I found it though it’s posted by a Ministry website oh okay yeah we can

Put a picture of it up on the screen because we did have a hard time and then all of a sudden I just randomly found it and I I saved it so that’s awesome um so December 7th this is interesting December 7th Chief fry pleads to the public for help finding a

2011 to 2013 Hyundai alantra first start by explaining why this search for this white vehicle so we have uh um information of a white vehicle that was in the area um either during the time frame of the homicide or around the time frame of the homicide and we are just wanting to talk

To the individuals who are in that vehicle um they may have some valuable information for us and we’re looking for a 2011 to a 2013 hyand Elantra so any assistance you can give us um anybody that owns one anybody that knows of someone who owns one or may have been

Driving one if you could get a hold of us um through our tip line or um call us directly um we’d appreciate that this body cam image and the white car is this the white car investigators are looking for so the body cam image that um is out

There from an officer who was on a call with alcohol fence does have a white vehicle in it this is not the vehicle that we are looking for um so we want to clear that up with uh all news media and finally the tip line the

Process what do you want to tell the public about that so the tip line now will go to an FBI call center we’ve done that because uh we started receiving many many uh tips and that call center can categorize those and they can send those tips back to investigator so we

Can follow up and make sure that we um continue with our investigation yeah and he also makes a statement that there’s 22,000 of them in the area he does he does December 15th coburger is driving eastbound on I70 in Indiana and this is when the pullovers happen right so he’s first pulled over

By Hancock County Sheriff’s deputy at 10:41 a.m. then at 10:50 a.m. he is pulled over by an Indiana state police officer and uh so weird we’re told that they were not directed to pull him over I’m sure you guys will see pictures as I’m talking through this but the second

Time he’s pull pulled over by um the Indiana State Police they had their dash cam on and he clearly wasn’t doing what they said that he was doing so I’m wondering if he was already a suspect at this point and they were following him and these police officers following him

Lost him somehow needed a bathroom break needed something right they blew a tire I don’t know they needed something and uh and they needed to slow them down you know what I mean yeah there was some kind of something there um so December 27th the DNA profile recovered

From the garbage at cob Berger’s house in Monroe County Pennsylvania match that of the knife sheath left at the crime scene according to police’s affidavit okay now that was pulled by pretend by officers pretending to be trash guys going to pick up the trash they were able to get this DNA evidence

Uh they say on December 28th the DNA was analyzed so from the 27th of gathering it they took they must have took off went back to Moscow and Idaho State Police analyzed this and confirmed with 99% certainty that it was cob Berger’s father so two days later Brian coburger is arrested in

Pennsylvania and on January 3rd he’s extradited back to Idaho and charged with felony burglary and four counts of first-degree murder interesting stuff I’m really surprised we didn’t cover this topic beforehand um but there’s so many questions in here I I look at this PCA right and I don’t

Believe cerg is innocent I don’t believe he’s guilty I don’t know what to believe yet because I’m evidence-driven all I know is when I read the PCA and with the expertise areas that I have and with the areas that we have researched now and looked into I have so many questions you

Guys and then I go back and reread the PCA getting ready to do this video here and I feel like this wording is so strange everything from officer pay saying he was involved in the DNA process to officer pay saying he was involved in the the cell phone data

Creation yeah that’s weird it is dude so that’s weird that’s not possible no he said that he was on the phone with a cast member from the FBI that helped him confirm that what he did and said was true dude that industry took years to even start to

Understand that’s not something you can just call somebody up and be like hey run me through this real quick like just real quick you know G give me the cliffnotes version and run me through how to do this that’s not how it works no I don’t even think I felt like I

Could talk on the topic until 18 months after being hired in that industry it’s so much information and it it evolves so quick yeah and I feel like you explained it really well and then like still some aspects of it don’t make total sense you know yeah there’s a lot

Of things to it that you know you end up learning like what’s the important stuff because there’s a ton more even from what I talked about that that’s not like everything you know yeah um but it’s interesting seeing somebody like uh officer Payne who has no experience in that and is a police

Officer making an expert report yeah questions dude I have questions and I’m curious what questions you guys have so I think it’s a good idea that we we take a look back in the past at this case every once in a while to to get a little refresher I’m glad I

Did this um and I hope you guys learned something you didn’t know I did um I I thought it was interesting seeing the breakdown for Zanna and Ethan’s timeline and what could have transpired in that area you know I’m not sold on this fight club thing but it doesn’t mean that it’s not

Possible um yeah it’s it’s totally possible I mean it’s not outside of the real of possibilities I have known people to host fight clubs before in the past so it’s obviously possible coburger did it it’s just he would have had to have training somewhere to do it and I’m

Not saying he didn’t I’m just saying that the the time at which this was done was done with somebody who knew they could do this in this way and and at this success rate you know what I mean um but more than anything I want to know

What you guys think I want to know how you feel about it I want to know what stands out to you what doesn’t uh if uh if you didn’t like the video if you did let us know yeah from your favorite hot dog yeah all right bam can you hear us

Now yeah it I it was uh it was going to the wrong microphone we should be good now good good good we didn’t say anything important but hello everybody Tony Amanda Michael Celtic Chris yeah we’re good yeah hey J Ray hey Riddler yeah I was just saying

That uh that the very first time we did this going from uh a Premiere into a live stream it went straight into it from the premiere and I I don’t know why it’s not doing that anymore it’s really strange but it’s like ever since this update uh it hasn’t been doing

That but yeah I’ll let you say hi to everyone and Y hey Jeff hey Lynn Christine rabbit Zolo hope you’re all doing well tonight Chasta are you yelling at us to go live we’re live we’re here welcome to the True Crime talk show we got a lot to get into tonight

Yeah yes oh thank you la appreciate that yeah thank you thank you baby ruth is best for Halloween like a Baby Ruth candy bar or Baby Ruth baseball player how would you do a Baby Ruth candy bar just glue peanuts all over you oh thank you Riddler appreciate that

You just glue peanuts all over you yeah that’s what I was gonna be a Baby Ruth no a makeup artist oh not not anymore though all right I got to pull up the documents here because what’s awesome is for tonight we’re going to go through uh some of the differences and details

Right because what we did with this is these videos as a lot of you guys know are the cutup version of our long Forum podcast right and uh here I’ll do the intro part real quick these videos are the cutup version of our podcast which is normally like three

To five hours depending on what we’re talking about and uh you know we have the True Crime talk show and we have thought Riot podcast uh and then we cut up these videos into the smaller videos so during that podcast what we did is uh talked about this timeline first the PCA

Timeline and then we talked about the 4chan timeline which we are doing a followup 4chan uh video this week so um I I still haven’t decided if we’re going to name drop people yet I don’t know if that’s needed or not maybe we’ll just show pictures and and include in the screen

That you know we’re not going to name drop that if there are people out there that are interested they would be able to very quickly search and find out who these people are without having to like full on put them on blast you know um but uh I figured we could look through

Some of the stops on the PCA uh timeline visual timeline we did and then um get into the deli documents which those are a huge deal right now yeah we reached out to um the county clerk and they got those documents to us fast man um and we have

It’s three right but I think two are what’s most important yeah yeah uh so we have those documents and um we’ll go through those documents and then um we’ll also talk about drip Drops video and some of the some of the key topics that he talked about in there which I thought was

Awesome we had to talk about that video and continue the tradition uh because he’s talking about some of the same things we’re talking about and what’s what’s interesting is we got to that conclusion from different from different points of the crime and I think showing that shows a

Lot I it it really does yeah the Chucky drop for sure so I love I love that he dressed up for Halloween too does he do that every year I don’t know I I haven’t been watching him for like a full year yet yeah so I’m not

Sure yeah that’s a that’s a good announcement judge judge did decide to allow cameras he said but he’s going to be taking more control over them and the audience can’t have like phones and laptops and stuff like that um so are we going to go over the court hearing today

Too I we can we can just touch on it I mean it there’s not a whole lot to it it can be said in just a couple sentences that this court hearing was about getting them to drop the charges and they didn’t now of course there are more

Details to that dro the indictment the grand jury indictment y dropped the grand jury indictment and they didn’t there are some more details to that like um you know the uh the evidence surrounding that the H how they agreed to to get the grand jury indictment but

I I personally wasn’t planning on going into that but we can yeah I mean I think it’s important to touch on it um you know I it was kind of snoozy CH it wasn’t it wasn’t real crazy I’m sure the some of the more crazy stuff happened um

At the hearing earlier in the day when you know allowed to view it um but from all accounts it seems that the judge is is probably going to deny dropping it it wasn’t official I don’t believe he’s going to put something in writing it it

Sounded like he isn’t likely to do it um from what I gathered and what’s awesome is we have uh we have long crime here literally focusing on cobber again the one thing they ask you not to do so awesome yeah I don’t know why Court TV is doing

That yeah they been covering you know cases and trials and stuff like that for so long I I just don’t get it I why are they messing up like that yeah I don’t know like we almost we almost lost cameras yeah why are you even risking it

Yeah no I agree with you I agree with you 100% I I it’s not worth it it’s not worth it in my opinion and it’s not going to do anything for anybody um and I am glad about the cameras too I think that judge judge would have been judged

Harshly in this situation by taking away the cameras um but yeah I agree with you I think the camera operator is corrupt now one thing that made me think about when they said that no no cell phones in the courtroom is that’s that’s going to

Knock out jlr jlr is gonna have to get an actual camera well he he was just pulling from Court TV’s footage so Court TV was the one actually in there filming and then everybody else pulls from that footage did he actually record in the courtroom today so it so yes it so I

Forgot about that but yes uh it’s but it’s not Court TV who manages that they just get to have their camera in there they don’t manage they don’t man they don’t manage the footage right they don’t send it to people or anything but they they’re the ones who record it and

Then the court takes that footage and then I I believe so I believe so yes and then Jr is just allowed to be in there but if there’s no phones or um has anyone been sneaking pictures because I would assume that these people that are in there like Andrea or jlr

They’re looking to just do social media updates yeah I I’m guessing there has been some and that’s why he made that statement um oh yeah good call out Tony I did mean to shout that out that uh crime sluth is actually going to have zanna’s Mom on tomorrow tomorrow we drop

We aren’t going to be live we drop our uh long Forum podcast tomorrow so tomorrow will be episode 14 and we’ll have a new Spotlight and other topics some of them have already been posted on here so if you guys are looking for a live to watch uh make sure you go check

Out uh crime sleuthin because zanna’s Mom car Nole will be on there tomorrow and we will do our absolute best to watch it if I if I’m not there during it I will watch it absolutely right after but our plan is to be there so yeah I’m

I’m really looking forward to it um I think crime sluth is a really good person to do it yeah um and you know I’m I’m glad she got to make that connection and we’re going to get to hear more from zanna’s mom and what she has to say

Because you know we haven’t got to hear a lot from the other parents yeah so yeah I I agree with you I agree with you um and uh I I’m I’m curious what she’s gonna think or what she’s gonna say in this situation we’ve gotten little tidbits

About how she feels about this situation she’s actually brought up the 4chan Theory uh on her own on Twitter and made a statement about it um so it that was really interesting um so I’m curious what she’s going to say I absolutely am curious and to answer your question too

Fast and and our our plan and what we’re going to do from here on out guys or what we’re going to try and do is we’re going to have big blocks of talking where we’re going to talk about a topic and then we’re going to come back to the

Chat and answer some questions I just happen to see that come through though about the cell phone connection uh if if all of a sudden there were a bunch of cell towers out there and let’s just say in Moscow and you had 5,000 cell phones connect to the towers all at once they

Have the software in them to manage that correctly where what they would do is they would pass off some of those cell phones to a nearby Tower or they would prioritize based on your plans so if you have a business type plan and you pay a premium for cell phone data there are

There’s a four level prioritization process and some of them have five but they’re the lowest tier the next tier the next tier the next tier normally on the lowest tier you have like tablets Wi-Fi things like that that aren’t cell phones then next you have uh flip phones

Uh 3G cell phones some of the older cell phones then you have the newer cell phones uh that are 5G and then that top tier is normally your business or premium paying customers so any cell tower will automatically prioritize that and it won’t cause Towers to go down so

What I think you’re referencing though is that we have a lot of people who have talked about a potential loss in network and that 911 was down that all these things were down on the night of the crime now what’s interesting is 911 if it is routed through a cell phone

Connection it actually uses different towers and different networks completely so those towers that we showed on the pictures from last night that were red those are some of those towers and uh it would route it through there if let’s just say okay let’s go down this hole

Here that uh 911 went down and all the cell phones went down if I had to guess what was going on there it was either a the FBI was in the nearby area and the only reason why I believe the FBI is in the nearby area not because they’re

Connected to what happened in Moscow I think the FBI was in the area because they were working on the biggest bust that Washington has ever ever ever had and that a bust of that size can take a year or more so they are boots on the ground talking leaning against people

Trying to get work done trying to see if their newest suspect is in the area they absolutely use stingrays and dirt boxes and when they flip that on it cuts all cell phone coverage of everybody literally everybody loses about internet everything that is used through a cell phone tower everything everything uh and

Routes it to the stingray so could that have happened and it was just a coincidence in in during the time of the crimes yeah it could have happened another possible theory is people with the right experience can create these stingrays where not that they’re gathering information but they’re interrupting information I could create

One um and it’s a little handheld device that as long as it’s plugged into a powerful enough Supply I could interrupt all the cell phone coverage for whatever Tower I was by that could have happened um but that’s the only thing that I I could deduce in that situation that I

Think you’re referencing so I hope I answered your question there um but look at that we got a new member did we Mikey yeah Mikey good to see you yes absolutely Mikey’s been with us for a while though I’ve I’ve commented and we’ve talked uh in in comments and

Things like that so super glad that you’re a member with us my friend oh and he gifted a membership oh that is awesome that is awesome we appreciate that yes we appreciate you very much thank you on on drunk turkey Malia was telling me yesterday she she was saying

I I think they were hoping for you to kind of take over as an expert on the topic and just kind of dive into it but one thing that I was trying really hard not to do is I can very easily take over a conversation I can literally suck the

Air out of a conversation and guide everything and I was trying really hard not to do that because we’re on their platform not my platform you know what I mean if it was me on my platform I probably would have guided the conversation a little bit better than

What I was doing but I didn’t want to create a situation where they’re like whoa that dude’s intense you know I don’t know if I don’t know if we’re gonna do that again so I I was I was trying really hard to sit on my hands

You guys and not just word vomit expert vomit everywhere like I do here you know yeah I I I tried to push it a little bit to get you to go in more depth and then I ended up like saying some things because I feel like you weren’t saying them uh

But I mean I I understand why you held back because you totally do suck there a conversation yeah so it’s habit I’m glad you guys enjoyed it though and Mikey all of you um We Love Drunk turkey they are awesome yeah they’re they’re really respectful they’re nice to talk to um

They have really good personalities uh they were very professional like I I got nothing but good things to say um you know even if we disagree on some points or anything like that that that has nothing to do with me liking somebody yeah no way at

No way and that I think that that’s my favorite part too is the professionalism of them and not a lot of people can do that and I think that’s the type like what they’re doing is how we hope our community will get to where we have people in here that that believe one

Theory absolute and then we have other people that believe a completely separate Theory absolute and we’re able to talk and work through and uh assess situations and break them down and figure it out together and I don’t I think I’ve said this a million times on

Here but I don’t want uh an echo chamber you know what I mean where it’s just us and our uh members and viewers that are all thinking and saying the same things I know there are content creators out there that that like that in their

Community I don’t I don’t I part of the benefit in having a community and having all of our viewers and members and everything is being able to learn I want to be able to learn uh new things you know and our viewers and members are bringing a whole bunch of new

Information and I’m learning a ton every single day so uh that that we’re talking about all these different topics and and everything there’s always something new that’s being brought up or shared in the comments and that’s what I love that’s what I prefer and going back to what I

Was originally saying with drunk turkey they are so professional and uh he uh the way he asks questions and presents while giving you enough room to breathe and have your own opinion is not an easy thing to do for some people you know and uh yeah it’s absolutely why I like

People that that question uh the the storyline for sure for sure so yeah absolutely um I know you wanted to say something what I don’t remember oh we’ll just dig into what we were talking about so um I don’t know what it was but you said remind me to say

Something I don’t remember what it was but um so what’s interesting you guys as you guys know most of you have seen our content um but crime circus came out with crime circus cult came out with a new video on Brian coburger at sus to us and you guys

Really should check it out because like I was just saying he’s leaning into some of those same aspects that we are surrounding this topic and we’re going to be coming out with a part two to the 4chan Theory and it’s good there is good information out there and there is part

Of of that part two theory is one of these guys being involved in a separate a completely separate heinous crime dude where he he literally ended a family member and I don’t want to go too much more into it because we’ll be talking about it on that video and I’m sure

We’ll do a live after that but uh it is insane the the amount of violence that we are seeing around this fraternity and and when I first was looking into it I I was thinking look people that are looking into this are probably looking at this fraternity and thinking oh there

Is a uh an upper class group of people that because they’re rich because they have uh streets named after him because you know we have this kind of Eat the Rich mentality in in some areas uh in the world I assumed that people were just jumping onto this because of those

Reasons so I I what I did I wanted to stay away from it a little bit until I understood it more but once we covered the 4chan topic and I started looking into it now I’m I’m Google searching Sigma Kai and I’m seeing you know a murder over here a

Murder over here a questionable life being ended over there another one over here like it is literally people are dropping left and right and there comes a certain point where statistically it doesn’t make sense there has to be something more going on here whether it’s just the simple fact that they have

Such secrecy around their fraternity Greek life that um these things aren’t being brought up like they should be who knows I I don’t know but it sounds Troublesome yeah I agree and I was running into the same thing when I was looking up the fraternity um and and

Really doing a a deep dive into them um it’s it’s not good and that’s one thing I was kind of trying to explain on the drunk turkey show last night is that you know I’m not saying fraternities are like to the level of like you know a

Cross and Bones like you know skull Bon Skull and Bones yeah uh secret society fraternity where it’s like world leaders okay yeah not to that extent yeah it’s not ivy league but um that is a ET eternity so I mean we have many examples is all I’m saying of things going on in

Fraternities that aren’t good and I think it’s really good faith um to think that people won’t go along with something bad but I think a lot of times people are going to try to save their own skin um and if they’re put in a position where if they feel like if

They’re going to talk their life is going to be over like they’re not going to get the job or the career or the life that they’ve been planning that they’ve been working towards um based off of actions of other fraternity members I think it’s very possible that they would not speak yeah

Yeah I mean let’s be real here like uh so one of the things that our society has been trying to work past right and and I’m not going to go political with this topic I refuse to go political with this topic but there is no other way to

Explain it but something society’s been trying to work past is through its toxic masculinity that it clearly like and like I said I don’t want to go political with it I understand that all these topics can be taken too far and can be hyper politicized and everything else

But uh you know socially we’ve been trying to work through this toxic masculinity where it’s only men running the US it is only male presidents or politicians or it is only men in CEO positions and all these other things and I feel like the the Greek life is

Holding us back in a lot of those areas where you have fraternities that are hyper masculine and the sororities that are so when you start looking into Greek life sororities are there to cater to Andor help the fraternities which is that like what we’re trying to work past misogynistic like patriarchal type thing

Yeah yeah absolutely and uh you know I I think that that could add to all of this because there is that major separation in belief system that we’re seeing between Greek life and where the rest of society is going that it’ll continue to spread in or spreading widen the gap

Between uh people wanting to come forward and do the right thing and speak up you know because in their Greek life they’re going to have a difference in what they’re seeing in the rest of society including police including you know what I mean yeah and I I mean

Fraternities also give you a a leg up um on starting life like because of those connections connections and networking is incredibly important and if you have h a fraternity a Brotherhood of people where where they will keep your secrets and they will um uplift you give you recommendations

Do anything to help each other be successful um I think that’s just it can turn into something not good very fast absolutely and I think a lot of people are missing that uh point where um they look at this right and I think drunk turkey was looking at this in this

Way too where they were like how could How could somebody commit a crime in this situation if the forchan theory is correct and all these people not speak up all these drunk fraternity dudes not speak up and uh I I think it’s very possible because one are are they

Worried that they’re going to lose their spot in a fraternity are they worried that they’re not going to have have that uh easy in the law office that they’re going to school to become a lawyer for are they worried that they’re not going to have that Banker position that uh

Traders position the you know what I mean all these high-powered high-paying position jobs that fraternities help you get into uh and that changes the course of their entire life absolutely like I mean think about about if kids who didn’t have money like to go to college and stuff had that kind

Of thing backing them how how much it could help you out yeah it could help tremendously um but anyway I just I have serious questions especially when you start really doing a deep dive into this specific fraternity um there’s not great things there but this picture uh which you just

Changed remember I kept telling you that I kept seeing pictures from you know students in in and around the area of the Idaho for yeah associated with fraternities sororities I’ve seen multiple actually of these pictures of somebody holding up a Kar knife yeah what why are Kar knives just

Floating around this place like yeah why are they so popular here that that does look like a k bar and I I don’t think uh Drip Drop I’m sorry I don’t think Chucky said that that’s a k bar I believe he said that that’s a large bladed weapon or large bladed

Knife and uh I think that is a k bar from all from everything that I know about kbar and all the the research that I’ve done that looks like that smaller kbar version because of the handle being Leather So Kars notoriously have that compressed leather handle and uh that very basic

What’s that called handguard that very basic handguard there that just keeps the knife from slipping now if I could just see a little bit further down I would be able to see if they had those cutouts that they’re notorious for having you know um but yeah I agree with

You I I don’t know why there are just knives floating around there but to be fair I mean I do think there’s a lot of hunting that goes on in that area because of where it’s located um isn’t Idaho known for having like some of the

Best deer hunting or what buck hunting I guess I I don’t know I that’s not my area of expertise I don’t know what they hunt there but I I think that it’s a really good and is it yeah I think it’s deer and other things oh yeah here they

In their recruitment video uh they have a guy holding a buck up by the horns oh yeah I wasn’t sure if if they hunted like uh deer or if it was like dolphins and stuff it’s it’s not alive I assumed that um but yeah

I I guess I can see that but is a k bar very a very popular choice for specifically hunting because isn’t it a military knife like I don’t know I I come from a part of my family that were Hunters they went hunting every uh you know Thanksgiving when the family was

Together they went hunting literally every season um that they could and I none of them Ever Had A Kar and they were even military and none of them Ever Had A Kar night that’s strange I think the best person to ask would be Michael uh because I I wonder if it depends on

If you’re going to have a Kar uh on what on what branch you’re in you know is Kar specifically Army and uh Marines and then like Air Force and navy are different I I don’t know I don’t know my military enough to know what knives are preferred for each branch of the

Military okay so I think I think we’re seeing from the chat it’s elk it’s elk okay which I do know in Washington specifically it’s elk so that makes sense um and also I I think I heard from some family who lives out there that the deer out there actually is not that

Great it’s way better in the midwest over there the deer is like really tough and I I don’t know I don’t know why but apparently it’s not as good over there um that’s interesting that’s interesting well I I would be curious and and that’s probably something that I’ll look into

Before I do the the second 4chan video just to understand a little bit more of what’s the likelihood like why there are so many bladed weapons in that area you know what I mean yeah also seeing wolves um the downside of a k bar is that it’s heavy interesting

Huh yeah make sure if you guys haven’t watched this video uh that you check it out I enjoyed it I enjoyed Drip Drop being dressed up as Chucky or Chucky presenting for Drip Drop I did think this was interesting now this goes a little tin hat for me uh

Just because I don’t know what the importance of this could be um except for the fact that it could be a representation of some kind of group of people in that area you know what I mean is this some sort of ode paying to a

Group of people in that area I I think anything is possible absolutely I think anything is possible with um with the with the card here the tarot card so I I wasn’t convinced that it’s a tarot card um I only have one deck of like the classic tarot cards I can’t even

Remember what they’re called uh but and I have seen tarot cards that look have similar imagery to this but so like the text like I don’t know it just doesn’t strike me as a tarot card it’s Struck it struck me more as like a a religious

Handout with like a Bible verse at the bottom yeah um yeah okay yeah I see people agreeing with me okay that’s what I thought too right it’s a weird deck if it is thank thank you guys I I didn’t think it was either now I thought it

Could be because of why the outline here of the the card itself having I I feel like you see a lot in Tarot cards where they have that real detailed outline around the picture and I wish I could just read what is underneath here but uh

I I don’t know I did a little bit of of searching around tarot cards and it being Michael the Archangel and I know there are I think it was called arc Arc something tarot cards so like there are tarot cards out there that are Arc something now now does it

Have some kind kind of relevance I don’t know where did this card go I don’t know it’s kind of funny that it looks like he has a presentation here set up it it looks like his background is one of those things where you’re setting up

Your office how you like it right so why was it there on one video and then the very next day it’s not there I don’t know I don’t know I think it is a good thing to point out and a good question to ask does it have any relevance I

Don’t know you know it’s an archangel prayer card thank you L uh Jeff let’s go to his Community post I want to see Chief Ry sent him two images of it who’s to your your community his community tab yeah yeah what thank you for that Jeff I would love to see

It Jeff the musician I think is what you’re I think you just type in Jeff H and it would probably pop up but I don’t know I would just try there’s got to be a space you didn’t put a space I’m pretty sure his channel is Jeff uncore the

Underscore so did Chief Ry clarify anything okay it says at at the bottom it says a police officer’s prayor to St Michael um okay Jeff T type your name out in the chat for me because I know you have a long name so I don’t have to go digging

Into uh our uh hang on I got it I got it oh you got it okay good never mind okay okay here we go and shout out to Jeff I don’t know if you were on there Jeff when I gave you a shout out on the video on the timeline

But um yeah good work over at Jeff’s Channel yes oh okay Chucky this time police officer prayer okay that’s what I was so curious about yeah I didn’t think it was a tarot card yeah so crime Cirus Drip Drop peing as Chucky this time recently claimed that

Chief fry had a tarot card on his desk well not quite when I saw the card I thought to myself that looks more like a prayer card I Googled and found a card that was close but not exactly the same so I decided to email Chief fry and ask

Him about it Chief fry responded to me promptly and offered to snap a photo of the cards front and back the first two im images I posted came from Chief fry you can clearly see it’s a police officers prayer to St Michael Card the full prayer on the back of the card I’m

Encouraged to see Chief fry has a card like this close to him uh yeah I forgot to ask if there’s a reason that card is there on his desk in the earlier interview Chucky showed but not there during the interview the day BK was arrested I’m thinking the day of the

Arrest was probably a day where prayer was surely needed okay that’s awesome the next picture yeah it’s right next to the US Constitution yes so hopefully that shows what’s important to him the Constitution and prior yes yeah thanks for that Jeff yes I appreciate that that is a great great

Call out awesome that’s awesome that he got back to you uh quickly with that yeah that is awesome because that’s like something little you know like he could have ignored yeah absolutely where was okay so he talked about the golf clubs again yeah I mean why do you why do you

Guys think that the golf clubs were taken as evidence because everything that I was seeing um people saying was that the golf clubs were downstairs in the the bedroom that was unoccupied yeah so did the did the perpetrator just walk through the front door and maybe grab a golf club like

What was something hidden in there so I think the claim is being made that uh I think the claim is being made so one thing okay and a lot of people responded to this so I’m going to have to find this to show everybody but there is a science experiment out there around

Criminology where they took golf clubs and they whacked um like you know how they do tests on on knives to see if this knife uh damage matches the the body and things like that well we watched a video where they did it with golf clubs and as long as you had enough

Force and weight behind it the golf clubs made slice like marks in the body because you’re you’re hitting the body so hard that the skin splits open and I think a lot of us have seen this before where you have like baseball players or sports players or whatever have a

Baseball whacked at them and it hits them in the head and it splits it open straight straight up and down like they got cut you know it’s not like it it blows apart open it’s normally a slice and could that have been some of the damage

That we see on these victims and it’s being mistaken as a knife injury you know what I mean I mean there’s a clear difference I think if that a medical examiner couldn’t tell the difference between skin being split and torn open between getting cut there’s a serious problem

There yeah which we haven’t seen the autopsy reports uh so clearly we don’t don’t know we’ll have to watch that video there there’s a distinct difference between being cut with a knife or skin being torn or split open I’m sure there’s a way to tell but according to that professional and I

Will find the video I don’t have it right now but I will find it that it looks identical it looks identical that’s really strange I mean is it because skin reacts similarly no matter what right and just think when you’re if you’re coming at someone with a knife it is very

Aggressive very fast and it your skin could be showing similar signs of damage that you might get from a golf club you know what I mean just because one is sharp and pointed and the other one is not sharp uh but it at somewhat of a

Point and just has a a lot more uh what’s that called velocity behind it uh it could give similar damage and you know what I mean yeah the I agree with this the muscle and tissue would show the difference would see bruising which I mean I think I think

It’s very possible they did just have a knife and maybe a gun in the other hand I think honestly that’s most likely scenario is a gun in one hand and the K Bar in the other and the butt of that Kar are super heavy and hard and can be

Used also to hit people with um now we got a question why would a thrill killer choose a house that is in a populated area that has a large number of college kids who are awake and partying and my answer to that is Danny Rowling did um

The risk can sometimes make the crime more thrilling yeah well I mean even uh Bundy did too now do I think that’s what happened in this situation I don’t I do not think that’s what happened in this situation because if they were there for simply thrill um everyone would be gone

Everybody everybody would be gone for a thrill killer oh for sure I don’t think they would have stopped at the four man I don’t think so but but if it if say say cober’s guilty wouldn’t it be a thrill killing yeah I think that it very

Well could be or there’s more to the story we don’t know or there’s more there that we just don’t know I do not think that the current storyline whether cerg is guilty or whether cber is innocent is a uh is a Thrill Kill I do not I absolutely do not unless there’s

Some additional information that can prove that he got spooked and and you know spooked out of there or uh I don’t know I don’t know I mean it could be anything it could be anything so Amanda got hit in the head with a golf club o got a scar didn’t need stitches but

Blacked out and hit the ground I’m so sorry about that but that’s that’s crazy yeah I I personally feel like the 4chan theory is just as likely as uh the the PCA currently and here’s the thing a lot of people lean on this idea that the PCA is the truth okay

If it’s the truth then why are we seeing things in the PCA one after another after another after another that are not trustworthy and are not true uh one that I can lean on myself is that cell phone evidence it it is not possible it is not

Possible for somebody to just create a cell phone layout or cell phone triangulation on their own accord and it says that in the PCA that he was on the phone with somebody from the cast team who assured him that his cell phone data was correct dude there’s no way no way not

Possible not possible at all not possible yeah I mean I have a lot of problems with the PCA it’s it’s more than just that I think it’s been picked apart over and over and over and there’s a reason for that um and I I think like you were saying on drunk turkey last

Night I think you’re correct that they brought this evidence knowing they didn’t have enough to support all of it um to later backfill it which is not a great tactic that’s not a good idea yeah I I agree with you and and it I’m trying to figure it out okay

Because they arrested him with when they arrested him and technically they they could have they could have waited and and gathered evidence and I don’t know why they didn’t I have no idea why they didn’t you know a lot of people say that they could have let him be at his

Parents house right and kept an eye on him and watched him and they could have got his DNA from his apartment and done all of this secret and they didn’t they chose not to go that route instead they chose to follow him across the US and

They chose to uh you know with all all the TV cameras and but no police body cam uh go to his parents house and and get the DNA and everything that way very up inyour face open and out there and I I’m not 100% sure why they did it that

Way I just don’t understand it it doesn’t seem like it’s the easiest or the most conducive to a good investigation doing it that route but they did it that way I don’t I don’t know I don’t know I wonder if they did already have his DNA and they got it

Another way a different way and they used the parents story so that they didn’t get in trouble yeah you know what I mean yeah because that the parent the parents house DNA happened so fast you guys so one day they pick it up and then

They say on that same day that it was shipped all the way back by shipped obviously they mean the fastest thing to do is drive it somebody drove it somebody got in the car with it and drove it to Idaho where it was tested and confirmed a match to coburger right

Well that would mean that in less than 24 hours they got that DNA got it in a car drove it to Idaho had that tested and then had that that confirmed against the other sample they had and then they did the arrest that again is a very short

Timeline like very short timeline you know what I mean yeah yeah there’s no way it was driven yeah maybe that’s the only option is two guys just driving it through the night that’s why I’m saying that there’s something questionable here you don’t think they could have flew back I yeah

Maybe maybe but I would assume that would take just as long could they just ship it could they mail it I mean that that’s way longer oh they they flew BK there and that’s the only way to do that but I would be blown away if the FBI approved

Them to use their jet to take that evidence there and that that’s the big question mark I have here is I don’t think that’s likely I do not think that’s likely I think that they verified the the DNA a different way and they did this for the official story that’s what

I’m thinking but do I know that I don’t FBI jet maybe um yeah I have no idea at all what it could be um I want to say hi to Ramsey though good to see you Ramsey I have no idea about the computer by the way I’m not

Sure if anybody has an answer to her question though what uh the day BK met for his interview he used the computer at the station question mark oh gosh I don’t know I’m not sure it’s a good question but I have no idea yeah yeah uh yeah it’s possible

Whoever went into the Idaho four house didn’t know that they were going to end up with four bodies um but in that case why didn’t they keep going when they saw Dylan see what what I think could have happened is they got spooked and they thought like oh I

Didn’t know this person was here they could have already called 911 that’s a big risk you guys that is a big big big big risk agree that is a huge risk to take cuz even if you thought they called 91 why wouldn’t you just attack them real quick and then

Leave like why leave them there as a witness having seen you yeah I agree I don’t understand unless he didn’t see her I don’t understand it I don’t understand it yeah I don’t see if you were casing that house ahead of time um and I mean because they whoever did this

From the begin they said whoever did this had to have known the layout of the home yeah right like they had to have been in the home uh regularly or they had to have been stalking this house Cas casing it uh so I mean yeah I don’t know it just

Makes no sense to me I I don’t either I’m having a hard time understanding it you would know there’s a ton of people in that house at all times that’s why I’m oping more evidence comes out and we said this on the drunk turkey show and I

I mean it 100% that I hope law enforcement is right I hope Brian koberger is guilty because our why this case is so important to us is not has nothing to do with Brian cerer nothing whatsoever it has to do with the fact that we want a justice system that we

Can believe in we want a justice system that is fair that is honest and that is good faith right that is actively working to keep our society safe and uh protect us and hold accountable criminals that break the laws that have been put into place by the community and

Society and uh I hope he’s the right guy but in order for me to feel like he’s the right guy there has to be more evidence because what we currently have in the PCA is nothing is nothing it is trash throwaway evidence and I mean I shouldn’t say that I’m exaggerating but

Like the DNA being there that is good evidence I understand that it’s trace DNA so it’s not as reliable as regular DNA but there is DNA there and it is on scene whether it got there a a from a shady intentional set up the case type way so

That they could get a warrant on his or the arrest warrant to get Briant I I don’t know is that why they wanted to keep it out of the actual case I don’t know but um I’m just hoping that they have a ton more evidence to back up

Brian being guilty you know yeah for real and this picture here I did want to comment on this okay I I don’t know if Chucky wears Vans I think Chucky wears Converse um and uh in all the Chucky movies but I could be wrong um but so there were some big questions around

Whether this is blood on the Vans okay um now I I have vans that have red on them so on the soul yeah right here I don’t see red I don’t see anything I don’t see anything on those it’s over your head no it’s my red Soul

It clearly it’s not over my head like haha they’re red so where I’m going with this though is for people that wear Vans okay and I’ve worn them my whole life they’re they’re there is always a red logo on the back and always there is this weird buildup right here on all of

Them all of them that’s why I usually get black ones that don’t show anything on the the sole but on these red ones you guys can see here that buildup that looks identical it’s too close it wasn’t focusing see that looks identical yeah that’s what happens on these shoes I don’t know

Why but always always so I don’t I don’t think there’s good sh is is drip dropper is Chucky right should those have been tested absolutely the second that they found the lat and shoe print they should have checked every dang vans that has this for the soul right they should have

Checked every single one of them I agree with that 100% but I’m just not confident that’s for sure blood but I agree that they should have been checked and that’s my big concern here with the video that we just saw like I I tried my hardest to just follow the PCA storyline

But as I’m following it the whole time I’m doing the editing I’m thinking the police investigated that right so I started putting it on the screen like the police surely investigated this right and we don’t know but when we see situations like this it makes me feel

Like did they investigate that did they swap that shoe just to make sure I it doesn’t look like it because that’s not how you handle evidence no if they swapped it it would have been in its own individual bag correct correct um so this is a I I wanted to

Mention this yes I did see um CH that logon mentioned the six grand jurs uh asked for more information um to come to their decision and they were told no oh that doesn’t sound that was mentioned in the court hearing today um that’s yeah that that is the one thing I

Actually I forgot to mention that that was one thing that I felt like was a big deal um that has been getting kind of overlooked a little bit by most people uh that’s important that’s important that they didn’t feel totally comfortable with their their choice uh you know with

Making their decision like they didn’t have enough and but and they were told no you got everything you got enough now what what’s important there to me is not the fact that they asked for more evidence but it’s the fact that they still agree read to convict or move

Forward with the the grand jury case that’s a problem yeah because if I’m there and I would ask hey this isn’t enough for me this I need more evidence and I’m told no you don’t get anymore then I would say cool then I am not

Agreeing I am not voting for this I am voting against this yeah seriously so more evidence or I’m voting against it I it’s that simple so what happened between the time of agreeing to move forward and asking for evidence what happened there that’s what I want to

Know and hello Cynthia um yes I think it does suggest that they don’t have a lot they didn’t at that time um yeah and we have known that and I do think it’s important um information yeah and we we’ll cover that topic on the pre-record too and do a

Little bit more digging because I think it’s important to dive into this idea that they could have more evidence I don’t think they have more evidence but could they sure I they could they could and I hope that they do I truly hope they do but does it seem like that’s the

Direction that it’s moving no it doesn’t feel like that to me you guys it doesn’t feel like this is them playing a technique playing an approach to best set up the the case for a prosecution I agree with you it some something’s off there right something is off there payoffs maybe

Yeah okay so let’s go back to uh I think I the grand jury does need to be unanimous correct yeah I think so I believe so too I could be wrong but you should search it real quick because that that’s a really big deal and

Um it it at least we can talk about this when we okay okay so 16 out of 20 it need so yet is it’s not required so at least 16 out of 23 and this may I don’t know if this is state perst state like basis like it could be a little

Different per state I don’t know so it says at least 16 out of 23 Grand jurs must be present for a vote and a unanimous decision is not required at least 12 members must concur to indict a defendant under the Federal rules of criminal procedure um six though asked

For more so if I mean only two didn’t have to agree or I me there were more there but yeah you know if there were only 23 um wait no at least 12 so half I’m I’m totally not thinking of that right yeah well no it says at least 16 so I

Guess it depends on how many at least 16 out of 23 Grand jurs must be present for a vote and a unanimous unanimous decision is not required at least 12 members must concert concur to indict a defendant what that says is it it needs to be more than half but it’s going to

Be different on a state-to-state basis yeah that’s what I’m that’s what I’m saying because weren’t there originally supposed to be like 40 and there was like 14 missing or something like that I don’t remember the exact numbers I don’t remember the exact numbers either um but

Yeah it’s 18 out of 24 yeah this is just a random Google search um really the important part is it doesn’t have to be unanimous um but thank you for for clarifying A little bit more because I know it’s got to be different in different states

Yeah yeah Mary I think that’s a good point too that technically a grand jury can indict a hand a ham sandwich because they I think that’s a good example because they can only hear one side of the argument I I agreed I I don’t think it’s very fair um and they use terms

Like these different levels of evidence that that match that that current cas’s uh expectation or whatever whether the standard is you know uh reasonable or uh overwhelming or whatever you know for the amount of evidence against it this is an important comment though I didn’t understand this the grand jurs

Themselves May question witness and request additional Witnesses or evidence afterwards evidence is presented to the grand jury um it decides whether there is probable cause to indict the accused I didn’t know that they could literally question a witness themselves remember you guys Bethany funk’s Bethany Funk didn’t come out with her statement till

After the grand jury was in full effect so they got to question one witness which which goes back to my original theory of the the read interrogation techniques I think that how the read technique is created creates a situation where you can lead a storyline right and somebody who’s really

Uncomfortable and really wants to get out of the situation that they’re in because let’s be real here while while I’ve been in front of multiple police officers being interrogated having conversations being investigated whatever before in my past not everyone has been there so you take somebody that’s never been in a

Situation like that and see what their stress level is it it could be overwhelming for them overwhelming just sitting there having a conversation in a room where they’re put in the corner of the room and either one or two police officers is in between them and the door

And it is a tiny cold super cold room with a chair that doesn’t move like all these factors that can create a high intensity and uncomfortable situation and then to think that that person that has no experience in those situations isn’t going to say what they need to say

To get out of there I think is a gross negligence on anybody’s part to think that that’s not a realistic outcome because when you look at the re technique and the uh the false um admissions of guilt that we have is of upwards of 25% of the time that is a

Huge percentage you guys a very concerning percentage Yeah massive so you know Jay uh logon’s uh argument about how the grand jury is not a good idea has been removed from many states I think was actually a pretty good argument though it was very boring

To listen to um it does make me question whether they should be allowed or not if it’s fair if it’s just uh for them to hear one side only it’s not yeah I I don’t agree with it actually I don’t think um but I did hear from a lawyer

Who works in Idaho that she was not surprised at all and I I don’t remember her name that this went to a grand jury she said this is typical for here which I can’t say I’m surprised in Idaho yeah but yeah yeah and ludicrous that’s a

That’s a really good point that uh I don’t like that Dylan is the one in the PCA and uh Bethany’s input wasn’t even hinted at it there’s a really good reason for that it’s because Bethany’s statement wasn’t out yet uh absolutely 100% Bethany’s statement was not out yet

Um do I have any evidence of that no I’m giving you my opinion which I don’t do very very often but there is no other way and the reason why I am so positive that Bethany’s statement and opinion and uh account of that night was not out yet

Because as soon as it did come out the defense jumped on that like a shark that smelt blood in the water man and we saw when that happened um and they they flew out there and literally flew flew out there to Arizona to to interview her immediately and that was weeks after the

Grand jury and everything it’s because that statement wasn’t out yet because the prosecution knew if we include this and there’s a sculptor evidence for cob Berger then we’re not going to get this grand jury indictment so what and this is this is common this is common that they only put

In the the the evidence that is going to convict for the CR the grand jury go move in their favor that’s why it’s unfair because it’s one-sided they can leave out any pieces they want and they can give any pieces they want um so it

This must not be a huge win for the prosecution and they chose to leave it out I think well um Bethany funks um you know her statement isn’t out to the public but I I do believe that it’s at least out for the defense and the prosecution um so I

Think that’s what Brendan is meaning by saying that it wasn’t out yet and it is now like they have it we just don’t have it um and I think that’s the only way for them to even make the claim that it contains exculpatory evidence is that

They have a statement from her now yeah and that evidence wasn’t there when this case started it was not there when this case started well that’s what’s confusing otherwise an Taylor wouldn’t have flown out there six weeks ago in a hurry to get that right so I I’m just

Curious why um she didn’t make a statement right away I’m I like why did why did a Taylor have to fly to go get it you’re preaching to the choir I know that doesn’t make any sense it I’m telling you it’s because it wasn’t out yet she

Did not come forward with it this yet I’m telling you there’s no way did she not make an official statement so they left it out they didn’t write an official statement because it didn’t go with their narrative already no so just okay let’s start from step one here so

Step one the crime happens the 911 is called in and the police show up on scene okay what they should be doing is is first before anything else securing the scene second what they should be doing is bringing in any potential Witnesses and in that situation that

Would have been Bethany Funk that would have been Dylan Mortenson and that would have been all the people that were on site before the police got there and you would have pulled them into the station and started conducting interviews right away that’s what should have happened right away before anything else before

They talked to anybody before stories could get straight literally before anything did that happen I don’t know did they pull everybody in and Bethany Funk immediately said hey I’m going to call my lawyer I’m not not going to talk to you I’m going to call my lawyer

Innocent people do that too that’s not saying she’s guilty in this situation if I was pulled in to a police investigation my my very first statement would be lawyer even if I’m innocent because I don’t know what I’m allowed to say and or not say and I treat the

Police in the same respect that I treat everyone I’m going to treat them as nice as I can possibly treat them but that doesn’t necessarily I’m going to let them hold my life in their hands you know what I mean so did she choose to to

Not say anything at that time and the lawyer was like look this is a horrible situation we’re we’re not going to say anything at this time so you know you’re either going to arrest my client or we’re gonna go yeah and uh and then it came out later so so the PCA States

Multiple interviews with dmn BF see here so where yeah where um but ALS also I think it’s possible that they could have tried to interview her and she wouldn’t really speak up uh or um like you like a lot of our chat is saying right now um

It just they so a PCA is one-sided it is one-sided it um it only shows the best evidence towards the defendant and excludes exculpatory evidence you know it excludes what doesn’t Point towards that person yes um correct so that would make sense that her statement doesn’t implicate Brian Coober which is why it

Wasn’t in there but they did have a statement from her and the defense didn’t have it because they didn’t get it until they got the discovery yeah yeah uh I think she does know something I think she does I mean she has to we the the exculpatory evidence came out in

Court so you either have an Taylor Who’s perjuring herself and lying when she brought that up and wanting to bring in Bethany Funk as a witness to interview in court or not you know yeah yeah we just J R saying she didn’t or she didn’t know anything because she was asleep

Downstairs um maybe but I don’t think so personally I think she knows something something yeah yeah I agree it could be it could be tiny it could have been her waking up and peeking out the window or peeking out her door and and seeing one little

Thing that was just out of order you know I don’t know like one person walking down the street uh a certain car in the driveway like it could have been anything or it could have been some kind of defect in the timeline like you know what I mean it could be anything and

That little defect that little thing that doesn’t make sense because it’s at this time and not the time they’re alleging this all happened it could literally just be a time yeah it absolutely could be tiny it could because I unless I’m wrong right and I don’t know the PCA like I

Know how to spell my name I don’t know it that well um but I I just read it two days ago and I don’t I don’t believe that it talks about multiple interviews with Bethany Funk um but I could be wrong I could be wrong oh you so 2 A’s part of the

Investigation yeah I’ve read it a few times but I I don’t have like the greatest memory I I remember the hard-hitting parts but yeah that’s not it yeah I get it I just don’t see it here I’m not going to go digging into it right now yeah I got

You bottom of the page yeah share it yeah as part of the investigation numerous interviews were conducted by Moscow Police Department officers Idaho state police detectives and FBI agents two of the interviews included Bethany Funk Dylan mortensson both Bethany Funk and Dylan mortensson were inside the

King Road Residence at the time of the homicides and were roommates to the victims Bethany funk’s bedroom was located on the east side of the first floor yep so that is uh that doesn’t tell us much and they only lean on Dylan mortensson so um you know Bethany Funk was seen at the

FR house she’s the one who saw Zanna and Ethan at the frat house that night and would have been there for the fight if that truly did happen which I do believe it did because zanna’s Mom B confirmed it essentially because she said Zanna called her dad that night

Um I’m curious if that has something to do with the exculpatory evidence what went on at the frat house and going home and any like that like that’s the the angle they might be trying to take maybe I don’t know yeah I I agree I agree there’s just a lot of question marks

Here there are way too many question marks and that’s what I kept trying to bring up last night even on drunk turkey is like there are pieces missing that don’t let people believe this you know what’s interesting is we put out that forchan video and that video got so much

Attention you guys and the the rate of likes on that video is I mean all of our videos normally get pretty good likes above 90% but that the the amount of likes per watches is one of the highest in any of our videos meaning there is a substantial group of people out there

That believe there is something wrong with this PCA and a lot of our viewers are not the the normal viewers that watch the the same content creators the True Crime content creators that uh we can tend to get lumped into sometimes even though um we’re different being a

Talk show and everything and we talk about everything um but uh you know what I’m talking about with like all the the True Crime content creator Community right and uh we have a whole bunch of viewers that come from our podcast and people that aren’t involved in that community and

Even we were getting so much response from them saying this is insane I didn’t know about this I had no idea this makes so much sense yeah so the response in general was just huge yeah which is which is great um and I mean I’m glad people are

Asking questions I always think that’s what’s most important in situations like this is just analyzing and critically thinking I I’m kind of distracted because of what Michael just posted um what just FYI us just carried out air strikes against Iranian mil militias in Syria and Iraq thanks for that heads up

Michael not great news but we appreciate the heads up yeah the only thing that I hope is I hope that Iran doesn’t I hope that we did that with the agreement of Iran and that’s not going to be looked at as a declaration of war same yeah that would be really

Crappy really crappy dude um but Iran has been a hot topic for a very long time because they just do not want to follow the nuclear accord or whatever it’s called and we’ve sabotaged their nuclear program over and over and over yeah that time Gap is sketchy I think BEC and I

Think that CH in you know in our chat is on to something that they left her out of it because of the fight and maybe some other things um because that doesn’t go with the suspect and that a huge red flag oh my gosh they got in a

Fight that night uh yeah like that’s what I’m saying they got in a fight that night okay yeah like that that’s a big deal when you have four homicides on your hand that two of the people well three from the home are there um two of them got into an altercation with

Somebody that night yeah and wh you guys when I said that Bethany’s funk’s statement didn’t come out I I just mean that it wasn’t openly out there for both sides the defense and the prosecution if I had to guess it’s either a she lawyered up and didn’t want to say

Something or B it was a technique of approach by the police and prosecution I think that it could have been because it brought question marks into the possibility of uh it being somebody else right and that this is the continued battle that we’re seeing here that um any evidence that could point to

Somebody else they do not want to give to the defense they do not want to give to the defense yeah which is a huge problem it yeah absolutely absolutely it’s a problem thank you Riddler for some more uh clarification yeah it was a re retali retaliation for attacks on US troops in the

Region okay all right let’s pull up this Deli yes the deli documents it’s a it it’s a huge deal insane it’s a huge deal just reading over them I I was shocked agreed why has nothing to no it says Richard is on it right oh okay download download download download all right

So these are insane you guys no I have not seen the defense Diaries uh on Deli but I’ll have to check it out Bob ma right was it good what did he talk about yeah the deli case really bugs me too where I’m missing one where um where are

You so I got Allan notice Allan motion Alan notice Allen motion oh one PDF okay so where’s this one PDF right here bam all right let’s see here let’s do open with Chrome open with Chrome open with chrome open with chrome oh he was losing it today I mean these documents are crazy

If he was yeah this is it’s crazy this this case is really really important well plumber Bethany could have recognized him we don’t know we don’t have her statement so I don’t know all right so which one should we go over first yeah you should zoom in a little bit um

So what’s go to the other one make sure I can do 150 okay yeah this one is this what we should start with so that we go over them yeah okay this is what we should start with for sure okay okay so wild this is crazy crazy crazy you guys um all right

So we got four pages to go through so stay do you want to give the rundown what this is um it’s just so we heard you know obviously in the last Deli hearing um everybody was sitting there waiting and then the judge comes out and says it was so unexpected both

Lawyers just stepped down yep well this is the story behind that this is the story behind that you know everybody was asking why why would they go through all this trouble of writing up this memorandum with that Frank’s motion and then and then just step down and give up

And then we saw the documents um you know about the uh Baldwin which is one of the attorneys that stepped down talking about how uh how the leaks happened admitting to how they happened and then fighting to stay on Richard Allen’s defense team yeah and and so it was

Really confusing you know uh why he was fighting and then just Ste down right when they were supposedly about to go into court and have this hearing yeah um and this is this is a story behind it and it is crazy yeah and it looks awful for the judge it it adds

Story to the attorneys and this is something that is completely unheard of you guys in uh in any case I can’t think of a single case where they’re literally coming for the judge uh but um all right so state of Indiana county of Carol state of Indiana versus Richard

Allen verified notice of continuing representation comes now attorney Bradley a Rousy Council for Richard M Allen and remember you guys so before I get into this there was only supposed to be one attorney that could have been held accountable for these supposed leaks that weren’t actual leaks there

Was only supposed to be one okay only one and for some reason as the judge said both stepped down in a surprising turn of events both Ste down and the judge was going to select new counsil so comes now attorney Bradley Rousy Council for Richard M Allen and in support of

His verified notice of continuing representation now squares and affirms as follows on one on November 14th oh this doesn’t let me highlight geeez uh on November 14th of 2022 Council enters his appearance on behalf of Richard M Allen Council has engaged in the continuous representation of the

Defendant Allen since the date that date in time two on October 12th 2023 the court communicated with prosecutor M Leland attorney Rousy and attorney Baldwin at which time the court ordered attorneys Rousy and Baldwin to in parenthesis seize work on Mr Allen’s case until the parties were set to

Appear in court on October 19th of 2023 the chilling effect of the Court’s emailed order was to essentially strip defendant Allen of his six Amendment right to representation and essentially disarmed attorneys Rosy Baldwin and defendant Allen during the week leading up to the scheduled hearing which was

Ordered by the court that’s wild that is insane completely insane like you guys aren’t allowed to work on his case at all yeah so essentially what the what they’re saying here is that the judge Andor Court said hey we don’t like what we’re doing you’re not allowed to work

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Because I have a new card um can I do it on on here though I don’t know why don’t you do that while I read more of the document okay okay so we just did number two number three in October 17th 2023 email attorney Rossy requested a conference to

Determine what we the court prosecutor and defense Council are trying to accomplish on Thursday especially in terms of what is expected of us while we are on the record in open court in response the court ordered both the defense and prosecutor to appear in Chambers at 12:30 p.m. on October

19th uh so that’s the date of the hearing on October 19th attorney Rousy and Baldwin appeared at the Allen County Courthouse in advance of the 2m hearing this was prompted by attorney Rousy requesting that the parties communicate in advance of the scheduled hearing attorney Rousy and Baldwin appeared in

Chamers on the 19th at approximately 2 12:30 p.m. at which time the prosecution was present attorney Rossy is of the understanding that the court reporter secured an audio recording of the in chamber conference which took place in two parts which is important meaning there’s evidence of what is about to go

Down what we’re about to hear about uh the court first conducted business as it related to several pending motions by commun communicating with the parties and issuing rulings on said motions then wait the court then read a prepared statement to attorneys Rosie and Baldwin identifying various issues through the case throughout the case

Through which attorney Rousy and Baldwin exercised gross negligence and carrying out their responsibilities as Council for defend Allen I’m so curious what were they yeah what was those gross negligence was it the memorandum was it the leak obviously I think they’re talking about the leak it has to be because here’s the thing

Though with the memorandum okay all memorandums it it’s not like it’s just factual where it’s black and white that that’s not how it works here um it’s opinionated they’re they’re coming for forward with their opinion on this now um and their opinion was that these guys

Were part of a cult okay and when this came out everyone was like oh my gosh they’re full of it dude this there’s no way this is true they are completely full of it okay now when we dug into it and looked into it they weren’t full of

It we now have statements of uh the guards saying yes I was wearing those yes I I do believe in this belief system not Odin but aat truism and that is telling there’s something to this there is something to this you have court TV and Vinnie who was a defense attorney

For a long time saying whoa there’s something here you guys and then the first chance they get with a leak that we don’t even know was from them that we talked about in depth the other night around how unreliable Tech text messages are because the the only proof of the

Leak they had was some person supposedly sending these pictures via text message to what’s the podcast again murderers sheet murderers sheet and murder sheet took it to the police like it is a totally set up fake situation and I never you guys I if you guys have been

Watching us for a while I barely ever side one way or the other until I have a very clear very very very clear uh understanding of the case but here I am 100% sure based on my experience with cell phones and the different applications that are out there and

Being able to change names in your uh phone book that that was set up there was an extra middleman that didn’t need to be there why include murder sheet why send pictures of text message chats yeah dude somebody’s staging this person to look like that they release

This yeah I I I agree with you there’s something Shady there and not on murder sheets side of it I don’t believe they were a part of it um I just think they don’t know I think they don’t know I think the chips were laid out in front

Of them for them to find if what you’re alleging is true yeah um okay so where was I so yeah they it says various issues of gross negligence so it’s multiple uh Amanda just gifted a membership woohoo welcome welcome new members uh thank you Amanda we really appreciate you and your support Okay

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Computer okay so the court then suggested that attorneys Rousy and Baldwin engage in a discussion outside the chambers regarding the allegations attorneys Rousy and Baldwin asked for clarification at which time the court communicated to attorneys Rossy Baldwin that there were two distinct options and this is important guys she gave them an

Ultimatum one either voluntarily withdraw their appearances and exit the courthouse in advance of the hearings or two participate in the 2m Hearing in the courtroom where a media camera was installed the national media was present and the law enforcement Community was seated in the jury box directly behind

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Blocked on our blocked list butter no we haven’t blocked anybody no I’ve never blocked anyone yeah so here so where this is where I left off they gave the ultimatum okay of voluntarily withdrawing or participating in the hear they the judge the judge the judge gave them an ultimatum so shady

Dudee yes in her Chambers and was like you withdraw or you’re about to go in this courtroom in front of the nation your your client and his family and the prosecution and all these cops and you’re going to be shamed essentially you’re going to you’re going to be disqualified you’re going to look

Terrible um so I think they ended up playing the long game which was incredibly smart of them um to step down and then drop this bomb of a document withdraw I’m trying to find the video where it shows her is it right here oh appreciate that plumber

Yeah we do need to do that with the live I agree with you we do need to make short clips of show and post it yes we’re we’re trying to work towards that that’s why we’re doing our topics you know in sections all right we are on the record and so remember you

Guys this is what the judge said just as a refresher okay remember how the judge talked about them withdrawing this Richard Allen 081 2210 mr1 thank you for your patience ladies and gentlemen thank you Mr mcleland Mr Latrell for your patience um we’ve had an unexpected turn of events ladies and

Gentlemen um she lies that was not unexpected no she didn’t she totally knew this was what was gonna happen earlier this afternoon the defense attorneys have withdrawn their representation of Mr Allen Mr Baldwin made an oral motion to withdraw I granted that oral motion to withdraw and Mr Rosie will be submitting

A written motion to withdraw I’m assuming within the next couple of days um they have confirmed with the court that Mr Allen’s uh financial situation remains static meaning he is continuing to be entitled to appointed counsel I will reach out to public defenders to Bro make that

Appointment um as Mr Allen is now without counsel I’ve ordered him remember when I said she almost smiled and laughed there now I believe I’m right that she was happy I’ll give she was happy about this I knew it I knew it she was giggling to herself and this is

So much shadier now that we know what happened in clo in her Chambers Behind Closed Doors yeah the fact that she’s coming out here acting like she had no idea this was gonna happen and he’s now without cancel like dude play that again it’s so obvious to me she I will reach

Out’s static beinging he is continuing to be entitled to appointed Council I will reach out to public defenders to make that appointment um as Mr Allen is now without counsel I’ve ordered him transported back to the Department of Correction right there right when she said Mr Mand I know that we

Have yeah I saw just something change where she’s kind of like you know she didn’t straight up do that but I could just see it in her expression um but that’s just that maybe that’s just me I don’t know so here we’ll read it one more time attorneys Rosie and Baldwin

Asked for clarification at which time the court communicated to attorneys Rosie and Baldwin that there were two distinct options e one either voluntarily withdraw their appearances and exit the courthouse in advance of of the hearing or two particip in the 2 pm Hearing in the courtroom where a media

Camera was installed the national media was present and the law enforcement Community was sitting in the jury box directly behind defense Council table at which time the court would read the prepared statement into the record and then disqualify both attorney Rousy and attorney Baldwin in the presence of

Defendant Allen his family and the general public man Joey Joe is a brand Channel how does that happen I I’m so curious how that happens but I hope you can get it figured out that’s so weird that is so crazy that this happened yeah it’s wild

I I wonder what they would have said if they would have been present if they would have been like no we’re going in and we’re gonna make you remove us I’m glad they didn’t though luck I’m glad they didn’t though because I feel like this was

Smarter yeah I I agree I agree so a after waiting approximately one half of an hour for defendant Allen to arrive at the courthouse attorney Rousy and attorney Baldwin communicated with defendant Allen regarding the Stark Choice the court had offered in Chambers defendant Allen reaffirming reaffirmed his desire to move forward under the

Representation of attorney R Rousy and attorney Baldwin as of October 24th defendant Allen objects to the Court’s attempts to strip him of his current counsel attorneys Rousy and Baldwin after speaking with Mr Allen Attorney Rousy and attorney Baldwin then returned to Chambers at which time attorney Rousy

Articulated to the court that the court had engaged in an ambush of Defense Council entirely void of due process and that attorney R Rousy would withdraw his appearance but that said withdrawal was not a voluntary withdrawal because the court made clear that if attorney Rousy did not agree to withdraw the court

Would publicly shame him in front of the world and his client before forcing him off the case by disqualifying him so my question is why why did she do this what is somebody in her ear what’s going on here because if they don’t want it to look

Like corruption to the highest level why would you do something like this I I assum I assume that the memorandum and all this stuff like I I assume there’s some bias okay and I was surprised even when Vinnie from Court TV started being like whoa there’s something to this you guys like

This is weird you know like there’s been a lot of people in in mainstream media that I didn’t expect to start being like okay okay there’s something here this is weird um but they are they are and now we have this like it it’s such a bad

Look it’s such a bad look and it’s I don’t get it why would you do that I why would you do that did she assume everybody in the public would also go along with it and be like yeah they’re terrible lawyers why would they po why would they do that with the memorandum

That’s such a bad look but really A lot of the public is looking at it and going okay there’s something to all of this yeah yeah it I agree with you and I’m sitting here trying to figure it out and trying to uh think what could be the

Possible reason for doing this right because obviously I think people are looking at this and wondering hey is there some involvement with a judge in this gang uh of you know the vinlanders or whatever because that that’s my initial thought or two are we just looking at a situation where the court

Is like hey we need this crime off of our backs we don’t care who we tie it to the first person that comes comes to court is going to be found guilty of it like it’s definitely suspects in some way but what that way is I don’t know

And I agree I think they did it the right way here yeah the lawyers did they did so yes guys this supposedly has to do with the leaks but from everything I was hearing from other attorneys but Rie wasn’t involved in that no he wasn’t in

Involved in it and also everything I was hearing from other attorneys is that it really would be terrible to remove these lawyers from this case before they even Vin said it be Vinnie did too before okay before we even knew like that we had that memorandum from Baldwin’s lawyer uh explaining the leaks

Explaining his you know what happened um and him making the argument to stay on the case before we had any of that lots of lawyers were saying saying you know this could be a violation of Rights like this is this is not a good thing to do

To remove these lawyers from the case unless there’s a conflict of interests like this was an accident and a lot of people did not expect her to try to remove them from the case you had other people uh saying yeah that it’s a possibility but a lot of people were

Making arguments from what I saw that it was a terrible idea to do that I I agree I don’t think it’s okay I don’t think it’s okay and I think that and we see this all the time we’re about to have a video a breaking news video come out

Where a judge is being removed for being so extremely biased and texting on her phone the entire court case and it was the the case was surrounding a crime where a child was ended and she’s just talking crap back and forth on her phone so are we seeing another situation

Similar similar to that where we have a judge who is biased did the judge feel some type of way when they submitted that memorandum around the uh around the odinism and the patches did she feel like that she was slided in some way um is there some kind of fraudulent buyin

Happening here I mean before these came out I already was looking at this case and thinking this is one of the craziest cases that I have ever seen ever the the amount of unexpected untraditional court-like behavior and and even investigative behavior is absurd it is you you rarely see one of

These things happen in a court case and in this case we have like 20 of them what is going on here there’s something going on here you know yeah it’s insane it is insane it is absolutely insane it’s a problem and I think the judge is going

To have to come out and make a statement that she’s going to have to I don’t think she should be on the case anymore I don’t think she should uh I don’t think she should be the judge anymore to be honest I don’t I don’t like any of

This I don’t feel like he can have a fair trial with a biased judge um I don’t think that’s possible yeah we’re at 10 okay all of the events in Chambers occurred without any formal allegation of contemptuous Behavior by attorneys Rossi or Baldwin without any pending pleadings requesting disqualification of

Defense councel and without any pending disciplinary complaints with the Indiana Supreme Court’s disciplinary Commission in total attorneys Rousy and attorney Baldwin have practiced law in the state of Indiana for more than 50 years without a single substantial finding of disciplinary action against either which by the way I heard heard a bunch of

People talking crap on Baldwin this is proof that there’s never been must misconduct with him ever never not a single incident it’s all fake flak y y at no time while in Chambers did the court ever articulate to either attorney Rousy or Baldwin that their conduct compromised defendant Allen’s defense in

Any way in fact defendant Allen himself doesn’t believe this to be the case there are no Bon IED facts or circumstances wherein attorney Rossi engaged in Gross negligence nor was there any showing that any conduct by attorney Rousy resulted in negative consequences to another party example defendant Allen and some attorney Rousy

And Baldwin did nothing to compromise Richard M Allen’s defense attorney rossy’s oral AC acquiescence to withdraw his appearance as defendant Allen’s attorney was forced coerced and driven only by the circumstances created by the tribunal which delivered two terrible options quit or be shamed in public before being disqualified from

Representing Mr Allen the Court’s premeditated ambush of the defense placed attorneys Rosie and Baldwin and the client Richard Allen in a most compromising position the trial court stated intention to read and a prepared statement criticizing defense Council created an impossible ethical bind if council did not agree to withdraw in

Chambers the trial court would publicly disparage their representation of the accused framing their advocacy on his behalf as gross negligence casting both Council and the merits of their client’s defense in a negative light this public statement and Circumstance created by the trial court risked tainting the jury pool harming

Their client’s defense undermining their professional relationship with the client and possibly creating an actual Conflict for their continued representation which I feel like is important so clearly they know more than us you know we don’t know the comments that she was going to make okay we don’t

Know what she was gonna say to disparage them and show their gross negligence but clearly they believe it would have harmed the case significantly and the way that the public and possible jurors would see him and his and his lawyers which yeah it absolutely would have

Coming from a judge yeah it’s this whole situation to me sounds unfair and honestly I think they did the right thing here because look a a a jury’s success not jury a uh a uh attorney success in their career is word of mouth okay and this judge was

Expecting them to roll over so what what the what the history of their what the history of them being involved in the Richard Allen case would have showed is that they came out with this wild odinism claim and then were removed or or steep down that would have

Been horrible for their career they would have looked absolutely and completely untrustworthy and that is not a fair assessment if there’s Worth to that uh me mandum which it sounds like there is we we see proof in the statements made by the police and we w we went through

Those in another video in another live that talked about how uh they came forward and said yes we were wearing these patches yes uh you know we were I was hired in December moved into a management position in February over the Richard Allen wherever he was housed I

Forget the exact terminology for it but and we it’s a pod yeah the Pod and and we brought up questions surrounding that so whenever is somebody hired into a position and with within two months moved into a management position in that area in that job in that career never

That doesn’t that shouldn’t happen ever yeah and you know I we made the connections while reading that that sworn affidavit by that correctional officer that he was hired like only a couple months after Richard Allen was arrested and put in this prison and then a couple months after that he’s promoted

To a as a supervisor over the Pod that Richard Allen is housed in one of the most high-profile defendants a part of one of the most high-profile cases in the nation and this guy just walked in and in a couple months is Supervisor over this guy um didn’t start working

There till he was already there and is wearing these patches the literally at the same time he got supervised over that area they start wearing these patches I it’s really really strange yeah it look at the affidavit yourself absolutely always do your own research and confirm but I found that very

Strange and I we put those connections together and it’s it’s apparent to me it is strange and the simple fact that they’re wearing Patches at all it blew me away because I I I say this almost every time we talk about dely when that or Deli when that uh memorandum came out

I right away was like they’re full of it that’s the just the defense approach there’s nothing to that there’s no way uh I I don’t believe it and then we did some digging then we started looking into it and then all of a sudden we we find that hey these guys really were

Wearing patches not only were they wearing patches but they’re claiming that they are a SAT truist and they’re claiming or and they were moved into a management position in that pod in a suspect amount of time yeah and the patches okay were the it said in Odin We

Trust I think right and then it was an American so that was one patch that was one patch then another patch said I hate people with almost like mountains on it um that were just like colors those kind of abstract and then the other patch was

A patch that had half uh American flag and then half was like black with the vks it and the VN is um it’s an odinist symbol a satre symbol um you know people who believe in the old Nordic religion that’s a symbol in there uh so yeah they were odinis and I

Hate people which I thought it was funny that in the affidavit they say that it didn’t represent hate yet they literally have a patch that says I hate people yeah what these are the patches they were wearing what right here and here um crazy if I pull this up oh you’re opening the

Affidavit yeah it’s important to show this yeah right here so this is Sergeant Randy Jones correctional officer at Westville Correctional Facility which is part of the Indiana Department of Corrections affirms and swears to the following uh that I am a correctional officer at Westville that I have been

Assigned to wcu unit of Westville Correctional Facility since December 11 2022 currently assigned to pod B that I have been an acting supervisor in pod in a pod where the defendant is housed since late February early March of 2023 that I do not practice odinism and that Norse paganism heathenry is my

Practicing re religion and for those of you that haven’t watched some of our other Deli videos this is the same thing odinism believe in the same Gods as Norse paganism heathenry it’s the same belief system called something different because odinism tends to be aligned with white supremacist SE okay so hold on I

Want to mention real quick because you said that he started working there December 11th 2022 Richard Allen was arrested October 31st 2022 and he was moved okay from County Jail to Westville Correctional Facility November 2022 so November 2022 he is moved to this prison and then a month later this guy starts

Working there or maybe just a few few weeks later um and then right here which did you read this yet so then uh literally just a few two months yeah two two months later um he is over P where Richard Allen is housed so remember and wearing the patches that includes new higher

Training he started wearing the patches six or seven months ago I don’t know how long new hire training is but I would assume that it’s not some short little program like hey you got to go do this new hire training for two days to learn how to manage um dangerous

Individuals so those two months from December 11th to February or March so it’s either 60 to 90 days he he went through new higher training and was moved into a management position and says that he’s not an odinist but a Norse Pagan Heist yeah which is the same Gods a

Heathen yeah and it says on five that I do I do wear patches on my uniform that identify me as someone who practices Norse paganism heathenry that I started wearing the patches six or seven months ago and I did not stop wearing my patches until September 22nd when

Ordered by my command to remove the patches so six or seven months ago is February early March so he started wearing patches the same exact time that he became an acting Supervisor over Richard Allen whoa yeah it’s just too many connections it’s too many connections

For it to be patches yeah you got to share the tab there you go and these are the patches right I hate people an Odin we trust and an Odin odinism patch right here that that odinists are known for having this tattoo probably more than

Any other tattoo yeah I think he was a mole too and you know the attorneys in the memorandum uh Baldwin and Ross alleged that these guards were also not allowing them to have their client attorney um privilege uh which is being alone in a room without anybody else

There listening they would stand right outside they would Point cameras uh and make sure that Richard Allen was positioned so the cameras could see his mouth moving so that they knew what he was saying and they would literally never take eyes off him ever um that’s not okay that’s literally illegal yep

That is illegal and uh look and they we don’t see anything about them being reprimanded nothing nothing nope and what’s what’s interesting here too is uh as you guys know that have been following us for a while I am not quick to put on a tin hat like we’ll talk

About any any theories and ideas out there all of them it doesn’t matter what it is we believe all information is important information but it’s rare for me to jump on board and be like that’s definitely it there is something going on here yep there is something wrong

Here there’s something wrong there 100% is and yeah the before and after picks of Richard Allen are significant they are significant okay and it just so happens around the same time all of this is going on that we’re talking about Richard Allen’s mental health goes down

Bad then we have those pictures of him looking like like he had been electrocuted you know looking like he he didn’t even know where he was I know I know I imagine being in a shoes especially if he’s innocent this is not okay we can’t treat

People like this even if we think that they committed a crime like this because there’s always a chance they got it wrong uh I agree there’s always that chance there’s something going on yeah I really you know I see a lot of people saying they think this could turn into an

Epstein situation and gosh I hope not you know I it really sucks that the judge did not move him back to County Jail they claim they put him in this prison to keep him safe I understand that apparently the county jail is underst staffed but why couldn’t they

Keep him somewhere in isolation in the county jail okay what why couldn’t we do that because Prison is not safe for a child predator period not with a lot of the guards you’ll hear a lot of prisoners talk about the guards will put them in compromising situations because

They’re not okay with child Predators either and they know that the prisoners will mess them up like I just don’t feel like that’s the smartest choice but yeah hey what’s up True Crime investigates welcome welcome oh you’re from Deli wow yeah that’s awesome nice to have you

Absolutely it is scary it’s scary yeah after five years exactly yeah it something is wrong here something is wrong here yep I have been to jail in Deli and can speak of the conditions and I was in jail when he was arrested one year ago today oh wow that’s incredible

Insight yeah thank you so much for uh telling us that so what can you tell us more about the conditions um and anything more to that we’ll have to go check out your channel yeah absolutely we will thanks for hopping on so ramsy great question uh I did

Figure that out and we did talk about it in that last video just a little bit so I’m glad you asked that right now um he confessed one month after the that these two dudes dud became the supervisors of that pod y it was April 4th I believe it

Was either it was early April is either April 4th or 7th or something like that and April it was April 3 April 3rd well hold on it says a separate document revealed that Allan admitted to the murders on April 3rd 2023 during a phone call okay y so April 3D literally right

After they became managers of that pod there’s something wrong there something is horribly wrong and in my opinion in my humble opinion the FBI needs to be brought back in dude yep there’s problems here there are some major problems here yeah I’m going to be covering the uh Flora of

Fires it’s that is a really good suggestion and we’re absolutely already looking into it um okay made a documentary so true crime in investigate says sure I made a documentary and reenactment on the case the jail is old western style all bars only holds 35

People very small town and in the past a man was going to be released on court errors whoa wow okay see the context around it is important uh it’s just prison specifically is concerning to me because for one we know that vinlanders okay are prominent in prisons prominent so if

There’s any involvement there with the VIN lenders that’s a good spot to have somebody that you want to keep an eye on or you want to put a hit on or anything have them in prison there’s a ton of inlanders in prisons all over the country absolutely so that’s my that’s

One concern um also prison’s not friendly to child child predators no they aren’t and it’s not uncommon for uh for prison guards to become intermingled with the prison politics you guys and remember I I grew up in Southern California where California prisons they are the big leagues they are absolutely

The big leagues and um they there is politics Reign King okay so you you don’t have a choice but to be involved in prison politics in California and most of the guards are bought most of the guards take part in the prison Poli politics and they can be a very very

Very scary situation and uh they absolutely will set up people to be cleaned up I’m having trouble I’m having trouble making the decision how far I want to talk about this like on camera but in California you have to click up with your race and um if Richard Allen is a

White man so if he was in California um and he’s a predator and was put into prison if if the white guys didn’t take care of him or what they call clean clean up um then they would be held accountable by all these other groups

That are in the prison um so yeah I I agree with what you’re saying that I think that putting them in a prison is a problem unless unless they guaranteed 100% for sure have him by himself with no other contact and the other big thing for me is that there better be

247 video recording going on there in my opinion Absol in my opinion yeah I just went and subscribe to your channel um and thank you so much we appreciate that and definitely we we need to be in contact because I I definitely want to know what you know that’s really

Interesting insight to have been in that prison uh to know that there are OD there and to have also been in that jail that’s incredible it is shout out to True Crime investigates you guys if you haven’t checked out their Channel go check it out subscribe show them some

Love uh see see what they got because I’m definitely goingon to be checking out after stream yeah I don’t think for uh Plumbing explain uh I I agree I don’t think they have him in genp either um but uh but it’s it’s a weird situation all

Around I just see a lot of things that aren’t common in all areas of this case here and that that’s not a good thing to see you know our justice system was built to be reliable dependable repetitive the same kind of situation over and over and over and over again

Right because the way that our justice system is handled and managed is voted on by the people and how the how it’s managed it should be the same every time no matter what and that’s what we agree on is fair in our justice system however what we’re seeing

Here is none of that none of it you have a judge literally threatening two attorneys EXA threatening this is a threat this is a threat 100% um Ramsey so no I don’t believe there is a recruitment age you guys I know skin is a movie okay it’s it’s Hollywood but

It’s it’s based off of a true story and a lot of it is very very true um and he that guy was recruited as a CH as a as a kid uh they go a lot of them go after kids kids are very impressionable they

They go find you know kids on the street who don’t have much broken kids that they can turn into little soldiers okay so no I don’t believe there is a recruitment age and from Patrick westfall’s interviews um they had all kinds of kids out there doing the

Rituals riding runes yes they their own kids I dude I don’t think there’s any recruitment age yeah I really don’t um now I don’t know if that’s official or anything do you think that yeah for sure we we definitely yep we’re the same do you think that these attorneys okay because

There’s and thank you very much there’s something I’ve had an issue with from the start and that is when the memorandum came out I don’t like that they use the word cult here okay so do you think that these attorneys knew that there were people in the justice

System very high up involved like I’m not saying this judge is that but I’m just saying could they believe that there are Judges there are police officers there are politicians there are all these people involved in uh odinism and they felt like using the word cult was

Easier to swallow than using the word gang because they were focused on the justice positions you know what I mean yeah do you think that’s why they use Colt and not gang because it’s easier to come out and say hey all these police officers

Are in a cult than it is to come out and say hey all these police officers are a gang maybe I I think you’re on to something there I think that’s very possible that that’s the case um that it was for legal reasons that they did that

The and the Optics the way it looks you know what I mean I that’s I I’ve just had big questions around that from the beginning because I I don’t feel like it is a cult as much as it is a gang but you know maybe there’s a reason for that

To me it sounds like these attorneys have done very good and made the right decisions all the way through this process even here I commend them for this yeah I do too I I love that they uh called out the judge and showed all of

This to the public so 16 exposed it the jury trial in this matter is set to commence on January 8th of 2024 a full one year and three months after the arrest of defendant Allen the appointment of successor attorneys will Prejudice defendant Allen by and through

Further delays in this case and trial if however attorney Rousy moves forward with his representation of defendant Allen there will be no need for two newly appointed attorneys to dedicate hundreds and thousands of hours towards a mere review of the discovery which continues to pour in as recent as late

September there will be no need to Marshall all the discovery and return it to the prosecution there will be no need to bring up to speed new staff members I wonder if that’s important return they don’t want to release this uh Discovery to the prosecutors there will be no need to

Marshall all the discovery and return it to prosecution there will be no need to bring up to speed new staff members investigators and possibly a new set of experts to address the many complicated issues that have already been addressed by the defense a new defense team would

Likely result in a shifting of the strategy and approach of Allen’s current defense team which in turn would further delay and compromise Richard Allen’s defense finally any successor lawyer would have the convenience of working with attorney Rousy to become familiar with the subject matter in a much more efficient and fiscally responsible way

All these truths weigh in favor of Richard Allen’s choice to maintain attorney Rousy as his Council of record there are no circumstances under rule 1.16 of the Indiana rules of professional conduct which warrant the withdrawal of attorney Rosy’s representation of defendant Allen Attorney Rousy notices up up this court

Of his intention to move forward with the representation of defendant Allen until a final disposition of this matter bam that is the mic drop of all mic drops that I think think that I’ve seen before and this is sworn too yes it’s sworn this is sworn absolutely is this the next one we

Should go to or no uh yeah this is the next one I just can’t believe that we’re at a point where this is going on yeah I can’t I it’s unbelievable it it is unbelievable and it’s funny that we’re being told that these two attorneys are taking part in some kind of gross

Negligence in my opinion if this is true if this is true the only gross negligence has been in the state of Indiana county of Carol yeah state of Indiana and this judge and I am not quick to point fingers at the justice system exactly how scary how would we trust the new

Court judge appointed lawyers right after this exactly Mikey and I’m pretty sure if you guys watch one of our Lives the last live that we watched what the judge was saying I I felt like it was very strange that the judge came out and said yeah with this strange turn of

Events I will be um issuing new attorneys that’s remember I was like if I was Richard Allen’s wife I would be on the phone till my fingers were bleeding yeah finding some kind of attorney of my own that will do this pro bono yep I would be too because you cannot trust

That you no I wouldn’t be able to trust as Amanda said yeah by the very wise and incredible Fox Moulder trust no trust no one all right so filed same day as you can see 10:25 2023 motion to disqualify comes now the Accused by councel and pursuant to rule 2.11 of the

Indiana code of judicial court conduct and rules 12b and D of the Indiana rules of criminal procedure respectfully and moves for for recusal of any change of judge from Judge Francis C go moves for recusal of and change judge wow they’re calling for the judge to be removed

After this threat y it this is not okay for from a judge in my opinion but rule 2.11 of the Indi Indiana code of Jud and Jud uh attorneys have rights too a judge just can’t come swinging the hammer and be like look I what I say goes I don’t

Care what what’s written in the law that’s just not how things work all power our justice system is set up in a way that all power is taken away from one any one individual including a judge including these attorneys including these prosecutor including these police officers and investigators none of them

Have singular power to change and or manage a situation into a singular favor or a personal favor you know um requires a judge to so rule 2.11 of the Indiana code of judicial conduct requires a judge to disqualify himself or herself when the judge’s impartiality might reasonably be questioned such is

The case in this cause of action for the reasons described below two the comments to rule 2.11 provide additional guidance under this rule a judge is disqualified whenever the judge is impartiality might reasonably be questioned regardless of whether any of the specific provisions of paragraphs A1 through six apply in

Many jurisdictions the term recusal is used interchangeably with the term disqualification two a judge’s obligation not to hear or decide matters in which disqualification is required applies regardless of whether a motion disqualify is filed five a judge should disclose on the record information that the judge believes the parties or their

Lawyers might reasonably consider relevant to a possible motion for disqualification even if the judge believes there is no basis for disqualification so essentially they’re saying what we said in the beginning of this this judge is is bias okay this judge is not allowed to make threats behind closed

Doors in this manner if the judge is making a change to the court Dynamic to the attorneys anything like that it has to be publicly stated for the record so the judge even talking about that behind closed doors broke the rule broke the law yep and exactly plumber judges

Aren’t supposed to be putting themselves in a case like this they are supposed to be like a referee like you said and and that’s one thing I wanted to mention is judges are usually highly looked up to because they’ve put in work you know they have paid their does they’ve been

The you know the prosecutor or whatever they’ve done all of it um they’re usually older and you know theyve got a lot of time under their belt working in courtrooms so they’re usually really highly looked up to for good reason but that doesn’t mean it’s impossible to

Have um a corrupted or biased judge uh they are human at the end of the day um they are able to be bought they are able to be corrupted so they’re able to be biased like I said look what if I’m not saying this judge is an odinist okay is

That possible sure but it’s also possible that this judge took such great offense to the memorandum that they submitted around the odinism for making the entire trial up to that point look face fake or false that the judge became biased due to that that is possible yep to what now their

Judging is not trustworthy you know yep like multiple people have said in the chat the judge is supposed to be unbiased yeah they’re supposed to be totally impartial absolutely three judge G has removed and concealed or allowed to be removed by the clerk of Carroll County defense pleadings from the chronological case

Summary and violations of the Indiana Supreme Court’s administrative rules those pleadings include Frank’s motion filed 9823 Frank’s memorandum filed 9823 three affidavits of warden gallipo Sergeant Jones sergeant Robinson’s that’s one we just read by the way uh filed 1010 of 23 and the Affidavit of the leaker Mitch Westerman judge go has

Not removed or hidden any state filings Indiana access to court records rule 2A provides impertinent part all persons have access to court records as provided in this Rule and that certain persons have greater access to court records the commentary to ACR rule 2 a is that all persons included members of the general

Public the media and Commercial and non-commercial entities are entitled to the same basic level of access to court records and ACR rule 4 provides a court record is uh accessible to the public except and provided in rule five ACR rule 5A provides that certain entire CL cases shall be

Excluded from public access without notice of exclusion but this entire case has not been declared confidential by stat or Rule and meets none of the other criteria laid out in ACR rule 5A acci ACR rule 5B provides the process for excluding individual case records however none of the 13 listed grounds

For excluding public access to the records secreted from the docket in this case apply to the above reference document whether or which have either dispar disappeared from the C CCS or inaccessible to the public nor were the documents filed using the procedures required by ACR rule 5B filing on green

Paper or filing electronically as confidential document along with an ACR form identified the specific grounds upon which exclusion is based is this just go okay so all right by secreting pleadings from the docket without following the access to court records rules judge goal has or has allowed violations of Public Access

Because those acts have only shielded documents from the defendant these actions clearly demonstrate a lack of impartiality and fairness and violation of judicial rule 1.1 compliance with the law and Rule 2.2 impartiality and fairness on October 12 2023 judge go instructed appointed councel to seize work on Mr Allen’s case which interfered

With the attorney client relation ship and Prejudice the Accused by denying him a timely effective representation guaranteed him by the state and federal constitutions on October 19th 2023 judge G conducted critical stage proceedings in Chambers outside the presence of the accused even though she had ordered him transported and he was available she

Then did the same after placing his attorneys in an ethical dilemma and again creating a public record outside of the presence of the accused this ignore this this ignored clear precedent on October 19th judge Gul ambushed appointed council with a planned Hobson’s choice design designed to coer withdraws the choice PR

Presented was to suffer a public shaming and be removed from the case or to voluntarily withdraw despite defense counsil requesting clarification as to the top topics Andor motions to be addressed at the October 19th 2023 hearing she gave defense Council no notice of her plan to force withdraw or

Remove them thus denying Council the opportunity to adequate adequately refute her act accusations that same day judge Gul had a prepared statement that she threatened to read to the public alleging defense Council was grossly negligent in their representation of defendant Allen judge gold complaint was more about not having

Control over Council rather than any legitimate concerns that Council had engaged in conduct that compromised Richard Allen’s defense a general summary of summary of Judge goal’s complaints are as follows this is gonna be a bomb drop you guys yeah this is the summary of her complaints and they’re claiming that she

Wanted control over them and what they were doing yeah rather than actually worried about them being good attorneys right and I find it really interesting that she was removing documents from Public Access yeah which is clearly why the memorandum went offline quickly and the affidavits yeah we got an

Email Brendan’s typing it right now and gonna post it for you thanks for sending that yeah all right yeah this is wild this is crazy so this is doing everything that we were just talking about a judge should never do why is the judge helping the

Prosecution I don’t get it I don’t get it either but guys our local Walmarts do not have the uh Dicky suits so we actually have to order it or find it somewhere outside of the city yeah um at a Walmart uh but they don’t have them here yeah

I tried I’ll get it though we’re going to do it yeah we’re GNA do it we’ll do it we just can’t find one yet but we we’ll get it I just have to get a screen for a really expensive camera it makes me nervous that something’s gon to

Splash back on the camera you know yeah um but we’re gonna do it all right let’s let’s see these complaints that the judge had this is insane though this is so insane if you weren’t paying attention pay attention now and what’s crazy is this has been going on the whole time

Dude the these attorneys I don’t know who is so smart with this but they are like they’re they’re essentially I wouldn’t say Snakes in the Grass because that that has like a negative term to it but they they hold back they’re reserved they they see you going to make a

Mistake and they let you make it so that they have controlled later I mean there’s nothing they could have done to stop her from doing this anyway no no I I’m not meaning that in a bad way it’s smart it is extremely smart so a general summary summary of

Judge G’s complaints are as follows a a press release generic in substance was issued by the defense in November 2022 before the Court’s gag order and only after repeated press conferences by the prosecution Allan’s response the intent was only to level the playing field this was well within the obligations of Defense

Counsil by established guidelines she never expressed any concerns over the multiple press conferences by the prosecution whoow essentially that’s saying that the judge was okay with the prosecution talking to the media but the second the defense did it got shut down and gagged messed up messed up super messed

Up B two motions filed by the defense one of which addressed the health and safety of defendant Allen and the second of which addressed the immediate transfer of the accused due to the not so coincidental and Undisputed facts that individuals engaging in Norse paganistic practices may have not only

Murdered two girls but that they were also escorting defendant Allen around the prison at the same time Health was in Rapid decline exactly wow dude yep crazy that is a straight up attack like this isn’t we have evidence clearly from those affidavits written by those correction officers that they were over

Him as he was going through this and they were wearing the patches so I I feel like this is just backed up by facts period no conspiracy it’s backed up like we’re not theorizing here at this point I don’t feel like now what we we weren’t there clearly in the prison

We didn’t see it with our own eyes but it’s just too many coincidences for it not to be that in my opinion oh there we go yeah nice yeah I’m blind all right um okay so we’re we’re right here Alan’s response Allen’s response the court had previously ordered the accused transferred to a

State prison at the request of the Carol County Sheriff his mental and physical health began an immediate decline prison guards in his area had odinist emblems on their uniforms which endangered their client after the odinist connection was exposed the defense had video of the patches and the guards admitted they

Wore them the defense had previously noted a connection between the murders and odinism the patches have since been removed Mr Rousy cited instances of abuse the those filings were within the obligation established guidelines imposed for Effective representation C Mr Baldwin had drafted an email to co-counsel but sent it to

The wrong person due to self- populating in the electronic mail Allen’s response this was an accident that happens routinely to most people the intended recipient attorney Bradley Rousy and the unintended recipient share the same first three letters of their names the email attachment contained no substant substantiative information just a

Barebones Outlaw outline of a tiny portion of the discovery received by the defense in this case and remember this is what the judge is saying to them that this was their gross negligence okay them accidentally sending an email to the wrong person that didn’t have anything that was of any relevance in it

Okay the Motions that they were worried about his health okay and also their press releases so the fact that they tried to speak to the public yeah the fact that they are worried about their client’s Health the fact that they accidentally sent an email of no relevance to the

Wrong person this is their gross negligence apparently I I need to hire these attorneys yeah seriously gosh these guys are good okay so here we go here’s about the memorandum okay that alleged the odinism the court alleged that Mr Baldwin put improper statements in his Franks memorandum not false or

Misleading statements just improper in her opinion Allen’s response the court had disdained for the defense for not filing it under seal even though there was no order to do so the memorandum was demanded by the prosecution before there could be a Frank’s hearing it is an impressive piece of legal writing and

Has been lauded by expert defense Council Across the Nation it again was required by applicable guidelines so she had a problem with the memorandum knew that uh that Mr Rousy had filed a tort claim notice to preserve the rights of his client the court opined that this action amounted to gross

Negligence the filing of the notice was intended to preserve the rights of a man who was shuttled off to one of the most secure detention units in the State locked up and isolated with only a tablet which was often dysfunctional to communicate with the outside world Allen

Had no ability to speak with his wife in private a as his phone calls were all being recorded Allen’s own attorneys were required to make advanced reservations to visit him at the prison it is entirely impractical that Allan would have had the means to prepare his own Tor claim notice and or secure

Private counsel to do so so essentially it’s a complaint to the prison his lawyers did it for him yeah and they think that’s gross negligence yeah isn’t that their job I don’t think that right thank you I don’t think that they have to I think legally you’re supposed to be

Able to go see your client whenever you want I could be wrong someone correct me but I don’t think that that’s not typical that is not typical they should be able to just show up you shouldn’t need to call ahead of time and say hey bros just want to let you know I’m

Coming at 100 p.m. have your cameras ready so you can record us against the law okay okay this is messed up another complaint of hers that’s gross negligence is that Mr Baldwin hired an attorney to represent him in this matter the fact that he hired he attorney up whoa that’s gross

Negligence uh so this is was not not true Mr Baldwin was betrayed by a friend and there was a subsequent related unal living okay we all know this whoever leaked it un alive themselves as a friend and colleague David R Hennessy suggested he needed a lawyer to speak on

His behalf and he volunteered no fee was arranged between the two the court also alleged under signed had put V had put volatile facts in the memorandum regarding possible sanctions or disqualification the true fact in a criminal case are often volatile there was no untruth there was nothing

Volatile in that memorandum that was they’re talking about the memorandum that Baldwin’s attorney which is David Hennessy drafted and published that morning before the hearing uh arguing to keep him on the case explaining how the leaks happened dude that there was nothing wrong with it yeah this is insane there

Is I like I said earlier I have never ever seen one case where something like this has gone on yeah never this is insane attorney client so this is true crime investigations um attorney client privilege gives them that right to see him anytime the prison had never experienced a pre-trial inmate

Until now they’re learning the hard way yeah they really are yeah it is Bey it’s beyond comprehension I totally agree yeah it’s it’s absolutely sickening you guys it’s wrong not okay you say bro constantly yeah I’m from SoCal Plumbing he is too yeah okay so G

Which this is the last one of her complaints the leak the dissemination leak of crime scene oh my gosh I didn’t mess up the mic did I no of crime scen photographs in which neither attorney Rousy or attorney Baldwin had knowledge of nor participated in Allen’s response see Affidavit of Mitch Westerman

Previously filed okay yeah so how much is left of this we’re on page five of eight let’s see should we finish it let me see H is there more bomb guidelines for criminal defense representation the Paramount obligation of criminal defense council is to provide Ze and quality representation to their clients yep got

That American Bar so everything cited by judge go as concerning was either not attributable to attorney rousi or excellent and ethical lawyering in the best interests of the clients defense and mental and physical well-being yeah throughout the pendency of this proceeding the defense has exposed untruths by law enforcement withholding

Of exculpatory evidence by the prosecu ution and Discovery violations about which judge G showed no concern and did nothing that’s a bomb the court has routinely expressed Umbridge at the defense council’s representation through investigations and file filings with while silently abiding the prosecution’s discovery delays and false statements by them or their

Agents on October 19th 2023 judge G coerced an oral request to withdraw from attorney Rousy that did that did not comply with rule 3.8 Indiana rules of trial procedure and further Co coerced an oral request from attorney Baldwin to withdraw as co-counsel in the cause judge G has exhibited a lack of

Concern about and taken no action to protect the physical and mental health of the accused there we go throughout these proceedings judge Gul has exhibited a bias and prejudice against the accused and his attorneys and in favor of the prosecution wow yeah we’ll we’ll put these in our um

Investigations tab on Discord you haven’t joined Discord and you would like to be able to look at these documents uh definitely go check it out yeah that’s insane you guys insane I am blown away by this uh you’re saying there’s chat members blocking her uh even if a chat

Member blocks you it wouldn’t block you from our chat I don’t believe no no I I believe they could still talk this was filed 1026 uh so true crime investigation said I sent you an email some stuff um and I had the crime scene photos they are real

And I submitted the tip to Cops when murders Shey and Rick snay didn’t interesting so they were sitting on them for a while before they turned in dude murder sheet has made me hey do you have the Discord link can you post it yeah yeah yeah yeah I’ll post

It hang on yeah we’re gonna have Brenda I’m Brendan’s gonna post the Discord link the invite Link in the chat right now so keep an eye out guys so what is this the motion for continuance H the motion for continuance yeah the motion for continuance and uh

Um the other one I forgot was called so never expired No Limit generate New Link copy Bam Bam Bam Discord you should have all these links just posted in a note so that you can get to them all easy and you know you know yeah that just sounds too convenient though oh

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That and then we’ll go through this document real quick here yeah uh Violeta or anybody um any of you that want to join Discord just click that invite link and that that gives you access to our Discord it does oh sh uh somebody said it’s invalid okay hang on hold on so you

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Twitter and we’re working on all like the rest of the legal aspects no problem Violeta I I love my investigations and cases tab that I made yeah for sure it’s one my favorite parts of the Discord and you guys can post uh if you find evidence anywhere we have uh

Several users that also post evidence they find it’s it’s so it doesn’t get lost in the feeds like in the general and you know all those tabs since it’s a constant feed anything you post will get lost eventually so if you want it to you know be something people can click back

To and we can chat on that one topic if you go post it in the investigations tab it’ll be its own Forum post that people can comment under and it’ll stay there um which is awesome yeah oh thank you Amanda but this this was wild the this

These documents drop it it took it to new heights for me a whole new level which I already knew there was problems here but this is like problems totally on another level you guys yeah um and it really sucks for the families the victim’s families and Abby

And Libby the fact that this kind of BS is going on in their case and affecting them getting Justice you know I it’s absolutely despicable Despicable it is I agree with you 100% And when you have misc conduct from in any case attorneys correctional officers law enforcement

Judges anybody in the case it it can really mess it up and it’s really unfortunate for the people who really really deserve justice and these girls and their families if anybody deserves it they they deserve it just like the Idaho for victims you know it’s a horrible tragic case and

Especially in Deli it’s been un it was unsolved for so long yeah and they finally have somebody and now all of this all this crap was piled on top of it yeah it’s a waste it is a huge huge huge waste yeah of resources yeah just join

Discord whenever you guys can um yeah it’s fun to chat there’s there’s definitely private chat too um eventually we would like to have um you know use it to have like members hop on and stuff onto the stream and chat about things to have a call-in number yep and a Callin number

Absolutely okay so last document here motion for continuance comes now the defendant Richard Allen by Council Bradley Ry and respectfully requests that this court continue the October 31st 2023 hearing set in this cause in support of said motion defendant Allan States as follows one Council for defendant Allen is

Unable to locate any specific order wherein the court scheduled the initial October 31st 2023 hearing date nor is there any order which articulates exactly what matters were to be addressed and how much time was to be set aside to address said matters two however Council does acknowledge that there have been

Discussions between the court and lawyers regarding the October 31st 2023 hearing date and the possibility of the Court conducting a hearing on the pending suppression motions filed by defendant Allen three on September 18 2023 defendant Allen filed his motion for Frank’s hearing the court has yet to

Issue a ruling on said motion for on October 2nd 2023 defendant Allen filed a supplemental motion for Frank’s hearing the court has has yet to issue a ruling on said motion five on October 3rd 2023 defendant Allen filed an additional Frank’s notice the court has yet to

Issue a ruling on the issues raised and said notice six on or about October 14 2023 this court ordered defendant Allen’s defense team to seize all work on defendant Allen’s behalf and therein prohibit Council from engaging in preparation for October 31st 2023 suppression hearing or any other matters

Associated with this case on October 19th 2023 the court engaged in actions which resulted in the court ordering the oral withdraw of an attorney Baldwin from this cause eight attorney Ron Rousy Remains the only active attorney of record in this cause nine honor about October 25th 2023 attorney Rousy filed a

Motion to disqualify attorney to disqualify attorney Rousy believes that a full and final disposition on the motion to disqualify should take precedent over the issuance of any rulings on the Frank’s motion the disposition of the pending suppression matters and any other matters of sub substance which are currently before the

Court 10 further defendant Allen further defendant Allen believes that any suppression Hearing in this cause will require more than one day of the Court’s time and will require the appearance of witness which most certainly cannot be secured between now and October 31st 2023 and 11 it is for these reasons that

Defendant Allen requests that the hearing on October 31st 2023 be continued to a date and time following a full and final disposition of the motion to disqualify filed on October 25th 2023 and for all other just and proper relief in the premises bam yep that is wild so they want their motion to

Disqualify the judge handled before they do yeah have another hearing before they have another hearing they want that settled first that settled uh the the motion to disqualify yeah yeah before the Franks motion correct yep interesting I’m really curious to see how this is gonna go uh yeah and I I

Do think there’s some there’s something funky going on here for sure I feel like we’ve at least confirmed that so far um so true crime investigates streamyard if other people don’t have streamyard can they still use it to call in yeah that we’re using streamyard yeah

We are but like if they don’t have streamyard themselves because they’re not a content creator can they use it yeah I believe so yep we just connect it through Google oh okay yep yep yep absolutely but yes so that is so interesting the whole thing it is wild it is scary it is

Unfair I hope that this gets figured out because there is something wrong here yep I’m really I’m really curious how this is going to go what what the decision is going to be made uh like on the motion to disqualify the judge like I’m really curious what’s going to

Happen there yeah and we’re going to keep covering this we I know it’s it’s it’s really hard this is definitely an uphill battle you’re totally right Mikey um but if anybody I feel like if any judge has deserved to get taken off a case it’s this one and the one that was

Texting in the court I was texting in the court oh my gosh wild it is it is and I don’t know what the heck they were doing but what what’s going on here is a problem this is a major problem and look whether whether you believe someone is

Guilty or innocent they have to be handled Fair they have to they have to be proven guilty in a court of law oh Gio Clark uh good night I hope I hope you’re I hope you get better soon quick recovery to you I hope yeah yeah you stay safe too absolutely we’re we’re

Going to sign off here in a minute so you won’t have much to catch up on anyway we went through this I’m gonna post a couple pictures of this on uh on uh Twitter just to highlight some major problem areas but I think it will stall until

The Supreme Court decides what to do with the judge and the attorney yeah you think both should stay both attorneys or the judge and the attorney yeah I think the attorneys should both stay on Richard Allen’s case yeah Rousy and Baldwin so the original judge refused himself after being caught

Sealing documents against the law yeah yeah I don’t know man I don’t know if this case is just so causes so so many emotions within people in that state that it’s hard to find somebody who’s impartial um but surely there’s somebody there’s a judge out out there that can stay impartial

Like and if they can’t they got a problem in Indiana yeah then that’s another scary state to to live in yeah and didn’t you say you live there True Crime investigates man I would be terrified going to court she was excited for that day wasn’t she yep

But I think that is it for tonight everybody we appreciate all of you all of you out there thank you so much for hanging out with us and walking through these documents talking about Idaho 4 I feel like this was a great great great live and we went through a ton of

Information and uh and uh I hope you guys walk away from it and have learned something like I have yeah I learned a lot and none of it good none of it good we appreciate you guys yes all of you we appreciate all of you all of you

All of you yeah it was a good one for sure and we’ll post these documents and uh you guys will be able to check them out yep definitely going to go check out your content True Crime and investigates and we’ll get back to you on the email yes yes

Yes come over to Discord we’ll say hi and we’ll post these in the investigation tab so you guys can take a look at them and we will see you on Sunday that’s our next live stream 900 pm to 11 P PM or wait it’s a

9: to 11 yeah yep 9 to 11 Central Standard Time and until then you guys stay safe and have a good weekend yeah thank you all we appreciate and love all of you and Malia is a good witch yep it’s my specialty I only been doing it like my whole

Life you know how many times I’ve dressed up as a witch for Halloween probably like half half of the Halloweens of my whole life do you know how many times I’ve dressed up as a hot dog how many times every day of your life yeah yeah

That is it honk konk good night all right we’ll see you then guys good night see you appreciate you

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