Hey what up though Hey top of the morning to you um people gonna change the show from the relationship bodyguard to uh black people you know uh where you at okay, but that’s right he on his way. Alright look so
Um hope everybody had a good weekend. It’s cold outside baby. It’s cold outside. I got a special guest in the house We got thirty something years in the game. This is my buddy love um I was the best. And his
Wedding, he was the best man in my wedding little quick story. Uh he’s the best man in my wedding and then he got married 25 years later, Yes, sir. Uh I was the best man in his wedding and I filed for divorce the
Next day. So yeah, I’m just saying I don’t know what the point is of that, but you know you wait too long. Oh look what the cat did Good morning Y’all Speaking of cat. What happened What’s happening you? alright. We got we got mister Macchiato
In the house. Arnold Davis. Alright. Hello they’re coming to here. Oh look at all swollen ??? Look what’s going on man? I’m trying to go Oh man. Yeah. just a little bit. What’s that right? here? Yeah. Alright. So look yeah. Um you know Arnold.
I know Davis he come here. He got a big ??? smile on his face man what’s going on man running late? Yeah. I wonder why you got some some of you look I just man ain’t nothing like a little glazed doughnut in the morning.
See you silly. Tell me when you get the bakery, Alright, get your mind together guilty. So yeah like I said my man uh today we’re gonna talk about um a college uh the racism of 1992 that most of y’all never ever
Heard of it was it got real okay. Uh then we’re gonna talk about being black in corporate America and then we’re also gonna talk about uh the boyfriend experience. This is something that was brought up to me. I never I don’t. I can’t
Make that. Not that creative, but apparently it’s a real thing um but before we get into that anybody got some current events. they think they wanna talk about before we get started. No no don’t don’t go against the goat. Oh, no go No
Question man. Did you lose your money? No. I didn’t lose any money bro. I bet on that Joker um in Kansas City thinking they’re gonna show up on uh show up a little better. Um yeah, they didn’t. They didn’t show up at all, but that
Defense is from Tampa is awesome. Yeah. So yeah who got his own. He got his ring. Yeah everybody from Detroit Lions get a ring ??? you you lose any money. Well, I want some money and uh a big smile. Thank God
For uh the online bedding. Uh you know I’ve I did pretty good. That’s alright and uh you know uh uh shout out to uh uh feast and alumni, which I am as well. Yeah two southeast alumni in the House. Yeah and uh also
Played on that field that uh William played on so uh shout out to the jungle this morning. That’s alright. I can’t make no joke. They got how many guys there’s a lot of guys went to the league from. Uh from southeastern Yeah, yeah. PL
Baby TL. I went from. I’m on PS for like 10 years. I’m uh jungle cuz all my buddies. I love no nobody anyway uh alright so look. calar uma não não Like it was uh intimidation situation and all
Of that I feel like uh the whole time uh issues was not addressed and I feel like at the time that everything that situation exploded that day because the issues that was already there and that particular day uh it started
Off with uh you know just a normal day. Yeah and uh you know uh just having planned uh techno at the time you know that was our game. Yeah, you know and uh you know got evening. Having a good time and
Uh all of a sudden, get knocked on the door and uh Scream a young lady screaming. so I’m like you gotta get down here. get down here and we all rushed down there and uh you know and it was chaos. You know, let me
Let me inject right here. Okay. So now we’re set in the day so he was at you’re actually in the dorm, then that’s correct now um myself and Lionel Williams and Oliver Pom were coming back from uh you of them
To go. see Spike Lee speaking and he was talking. About you know races and all this other stuff so we were coming back and now this happened April 2nd 1992 at a College Avenue, Michigan Small Town between La and Battle Creek right off of
90.4. So as we arrive, we pull up we pull up. There’s state troopers there’s um local Police County sheriffs. We knew when we pulled up, we knew something had jumped off. We knew we knew it was racial and at that time can nobody text
You um if you had a cellphone, you were privileged uh so we pulled up and I was like wow, always saying, was the brothers whooping ??? go. Yeah they uh when they the young lady came and got us uh, she said they
Were jumping on Chuck and uh rest in peace. I didn’t know I know Chuck had passed away rest in peace to you and uh he was a good brother too as well. Man very intelligent young man at the time he was just very good
Down to Earth brother, so he uh he was getting with him man he was doing his thing they had tried to jump in and uh he was handling but we came down and it was all chaos and broke out and it was just you know they
You could just see the ones that you couldn’t imagine or you did imagine either one, but you tell me who the far as white the white as far as white people you guys, it was like on the football team with your
Eyes on the football and also on the basketball team with me. Yeah guys with that, said hello to you. Or you know be friend with you or whatsoever with. yeah. Oh yeah all that is it racist. Yeah. This is not
Racist. It’s it’s just that um I don’t know if you ever ever seen the situation whereas they they talk about Magic Johnson and uh um people like Michael Jordan. Yeah. Oh he’s different. You guys are different because you were affiliated with them cuz they
Didn’t most of the time the people don’t really know black people. they don’t they don’t have any. What our culture is actually like this is true, I was the only black guy on the basketball team um I can remember most of the white boys
That were on the team were from the up or you know thumb area so any idea of a black person that they had seen was from the media was from the news so they didn’t. I didn’t really help the stereotype because I was on
The basketball team, so I was able to play basketball pretty good, but they also thought. I was a hood I remember you know, I remember one guy uh, he says. to me, he say, man you you live in Detroit. I see I’m from
Detroit he to do uh, he said. um don’t they kill people down there. I see you know what and so now, I’m being a smart ??? I said. Yeah, man you should go home with me this weekend man, I said. you know what our stats
Are low man. You should come on home with me this weekend. Man come hang out man see if you make it back, he wouldn’t told coach he wouldn’t tell uh I can’t even think of the ??? coach Morris Morrison. Yeah,
??? him. He wouldn’t told coach and you know they try to reprimand me for what I said him, but he didn’t say nothing to that player for for racist remark to me. So now we’re gonna go back to the whole college thing. Alright. So what
Led to what happened? What sparked the situation? What sparked the situation for the forty white boys to come over from um from frat house a lie? Yes, by who by the uh? Caucasian uh young lady at the time she was uh every time she
Was uh yeah she was cheating on her boyfriend, Yup and uh with another white dude with another white dude with another white dude with another white dude. Yeah. And then he was banging at the door cuz he knew who’s the black guy The black. His
Buddy was a black guy right that’s correct went to the do One room. Okay. go ahead. Well, he went to the dorm room it you know at the time the black guy didn’t really have no idea what he was doing. You know he was
Just knocking doing a normal knock at his girl door. It wasn’t no confrontation at the. It was just he doing his normal routine of going to his girlfriend’s. Do she created a diversion? Yes and uh the black guy had to be there and she
Said these black guys are knocking on my door. Get over here you know so but who was who is knocking at the door, a white guy. that’s correct. Okay. Oh. wow. What is this? What movie does that remind you I was gonna say Rosewood. Yes
Remember, but that’s the whole thing cuz that Joker in uh Rosewood he came under the guys of a mixer you know and. Mason is that your brother, no, it’s not you know. it’s not every member. you know every every brother is not your brother.
You gotta you gotta realize and distinguish who’s who alright, so we gonna speed this up a little bit so now next thing you know I don’t know if you remember this when that situation jumped off, everybody called they cousins all the
Hood dudes from Detroit. Chicago Ben Harbor, Sag Nasty Grand Rapids dudes came up there with. Knives thirty-eight 357 uh Batman It was O and I remember them all into our room. Wow all not now. listen our dorm room was no bigger
Than this studio. How many people would you say powered rumors spilled down to the hallway from out of town to come to come back or something? Oh it was it was a lot. It was. I say I’ll be in upper sixty or
7060 or seventy. Yeah. So now we want uh. Take the car hold on a minute hey hold on one second um so now everybody Rob let’s go kill these ??? and let’s go kill these ??? We want their ??? there somebody in the
Crowd chanted let’s set the house on fire while they sleep and when they come out shoot their ??? up. Okay. So now that is sound like a good idea until you realize the only way to the time is this one. Yeah. You know how I
Get props to I get props to Henry Henderson. Hey I horribly an attorney now Henry ended up getting on top of the desk and he said Hello man, he said. That’s not what we’re gonna do what we gonna do is hit him in
The pockets. Imma Pause the story right there go ahead call him. No, I was just calling in to say um I remember all of that college being like one of those uh racist college. Back in the day, that was one of the
Reasons I didn’t go. It was some of the people from my church that used to go to college and they was always trying to tell me about that. But I I know back, we didn’t know how to solve racism problems either because back in
The day, it was danny’s remember Denny’s uh when I used to go up in Michigan State, I used we the customer service was so poor and then later it came out that they was being racist. They didn’t wanna serve black people in order so even.
We didn’t know how to handle it back then because it was just something like nobody talked about right you know when they’re born That was another thing. Dearborn. We just didn’t go to Dearborn our parents told us. don’t go to Dearborn and we
Just didn’t go. We didn’t know why we just knew you know and that’s the weird thing about it, you know and we still like 3040 years later. Okay. How do we solve these problems? You know what go ahead? economics
We hit him in a pocket. Got him in the pockets? I think we’re saying, hey, so check this out real quick um one of the reasons why we were told to stay out of Dearborn and this just not too long ago in the
Last 2030 years uh they had a sign up in Dearborn uh they basically said no ??? allowed they were so busy keeping us out of Dearborn The other ??? moved in. I’m saying this ??? yeah So that’s what they call
You know Arabs. you know, you know we all brothers and sisters from you know over in Africa area but you’re so worried about. Us out Yeah, the other ones moved in. Yeah, So now they dominate the city at the high school and they own it
Now. So Imma skip back to what we’re talking about. you gotta hit them economic so Collin Hank Stacey Latrice, who else man There’s some people don’t forget. Oh ??? it Damon. Crooks. Damon was very uh that’s when Damon had here uh
We all had hair. Yeah me too. Um it was a lot of us, you know, so you have to forgive me if I don’t remember everybody. That was what 30 years ago. Yeah. um yeah, we were all instrumental in making a point
So Henry and a bunch of the young ladies. Uh I think Crystal Brown latrice Robinson Stacy Bennett all got together Put together press release sentence um to um what’s the what’s the oppression is up and uh all the press release
Networks let them know. Through vf effects, what was going on at a college? what we just experienced you know with the race right also send out the facts to all the alumni that be giving up that money that school lost millions that next
Morning when we got up what happened uh it was uh you know the the the thing about that whole situation and uh you know I apologize if I get kinda sensitive about it is that uh trauma. Yourself you know we
Were accused of uh oh, yeah. Oh yeah uh assault and uh a white girl with that neither one of us ever saw in our entire life and uh you know assaulter and sexually uh attacking her on a tennis court. Yeah and Lord
Knows I have not been on all of that tennis court entire my entire time on campus. so check this out. I’m gonna add to that. Elizabeth Atkins was with the free press um by ratio chick identified more with the Y. Uh she was a budding
Reporter, but trying to break that story. basically okay. just so you know so let’s start right here. That was a false a false story they did that to shut us to the media retaliation because as you said in the beginning we were
Special so we weren’t special. You see what I’m saying so come to find out while we were home the weekend allegedly that this assault happened we. That Elizabeth Atkins tried to run the story as Imma tell you something right now you run
That story with our names in it that’s slander. I said you don’t lose your job and we suing the newspaper. That’s right, I said, because you don’t have no proof of that and we’re at home that whole weekend because that situation
So volatile man we had to get the hell up out of there. man so that happened like maybe that happened the weekend of the week of the uh the race riot what ended up happening with. Next morning we got up after the press release sent
Out man It was nothing but media trucks as far as you can see Abc News, Cbs, I mean man it was something like that you see in the movie. I’m talking about the satellite trucks man right we come out the door mics
In our face and this is the stuff that they don’t want Y’all to see the internet has been scrubbed am I right correct of this whole situation. We even went to the college to the to the president. Told them what you
Know what happened? Um we tried to file and press charges. I think out of all the people that was the fight to by guys got arrested, but we was the one that was assaulted. Go ahead. Yeah. he was uh he was
The one who saw I saw it and uh when they came in as far as the police, you know when they came in, it was just all about arresting black folks. It was not it was nothing about arresting white people with the
Black people were wrong and that’s that was just it and it was a. And it was always uh you know high tension with the uh police and all of it. it was always they would uh you know kinda harass you in a way like
Kinda why you’re being here and sort of deal over the time I was there so right, all of that was uh you know experience that uh at the time you know and still to this day. II didn’t I didn’t you know I and I got
Close friends and brothers that I love to this that you know we went on and continue to uh get their degrees from there. And uh you know, I’m very proud of them guys good. They do. I’m very proud of God but that scar
Was a lot you know throughout you know throughout even to this day when I think about it, you know, it’s just uh something that you know I try to avoid bringing up who are thinking about, but you know it
Was it was transit and I you know I Imma make a point too. Yeah uh doing that situation and that was really hurtful to me When I was on campus, we used to talk about it a lot. It was us as a black folks on
Campus we. Did not stay together. No we did and it was. I mean you would say hello to people and they would just walk past you like they did was and these same people from these inner city schools like central and purging and southeast and
Sort of deal and uh put your phone on vibrating the mic Oh go ahead and so yeah, it was uh one of those things that uh you know it was just and it was sad because what I saw was they got you know we got exploited
Because we wasn’t close and. The weakness that weak link that’s why they took try to take advantage of us. That’s at that time spikes by Spike Lee um when they talk about the uh do right, what what what you’re learning the higher learning
But um the one with they had the school day school day. That’s right. Do you remember how they had the one of these and the jigs right? That’s when you have uh you know the separation I think uh cuz you
Got to you know the cap is accused like that we fight amongst ourselves right, then two one at a time to fight the other people we fight. Together right well, I think that’s what what what you guys think? Yeah, but check this out. This thing
Was so huge and so big and Imma tell you why they scrubbed it from the internet. I can remember this tension was so high that the klu clan started riding through the canvas with the Confederate flags Uh at one point they were shooting. they
Were shooting. They were they were handing out literature throughout all the businesses and stores of recruiting to try to Lynch us. so I’m not gonna lie to you. man. We hey, we got to point. we had to keep those
Things on us man. We at school trying to learn we had to go we had to go to the administrators had to. The president try to get the president to um to reprimand these guys and they would not recommend these guys
And they told us to our face. We’re not going to punish these guys because these are the sons and the legacies of alumni. Oh, yeah, so it was about money. You can get your black ??? off campus These white boys that
Come from legacy and money. They ain’t going nowhere. They’re the pipeline of our educational system. We just need Y’all basically for basketball football, whatever and to fulfill us to you know. So check this out minorities we get a call answer the phone, I
Said. Hello, listen to dorm room. Yes this uh this brother Williams, I said yes, it is, he said this is the honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. Oh. yeah. Oh yeah. see That’s why they scrub the internet. This story is so huge man people
They don’t even realize so get the car, he said, he said young brother reinforcement. Is on the way I’m sending two bus loads of foi. you remember that Oh, yeah. Oh yeah suited booted bow ties They get there man cuz
Not this time. By this time the clan is off the chain we had to make sure we had to go and get the ladies that were standing in the ladies dorms had them come over to stay with us. Oh yeah, because believe it or not
Black men do protect black women. It should be all the time and not just when it’s prompted like you said. We weren’t we weren’t all cohesive. It was a bunch of us that was tight, but you oh, yeah, you had the little black
Speckles that was out there was doing. Oh yeah, it was uh you wanna elaborate on when the nation of Islam came in and how they took care of us. Oh it was uh you know it was a breath of fresh air, you know and uh you
Know the way they represented and uh had our backs and uh they at the time they were speaking of Farrakhan was speaking up at the Michigan State and uh we all went up to Michigan State. Yeah and uh. Spoke on what was happening at
The time and uh after this after he did his uh speech and everything he invited us all back to his hotel room and we talked to him for a while. 3 hours. Yeah and uh he try to recruit you guys. Oh, no, you
Know what it wasn’t. He didn’t have to recruit us cuz at that point, we were fed up. okay. We were fed up. I mean you know you know, I ain’t gonna lie. you know we start going to meetings okay but then uh they
Start laying down the rules and uh me and you know we’re going to the meetings man and we went to like maybe a second third. Will be here cross over the uh the brother say uh he’s I’m laid down uh um you shall not
Partake and swine you know it’s kinda wrote me cuz I got ate bacon sandwiches every morning and um and then he says uh um. I raised my hand, I said, um, he said, go ahead young brother, I said, I said so no
Bacon, he said No my brother give me a call saying how you know I like bacon the conversation, man what what you wanna do, he said. Man. You know I got this head Doctor man set up man. It’s my white girl
Here. Oh my goodness uh so no white women. He said no my brother is this gonna be a problem for y’all so we that I say man, Oh my goodness. We gotta get out here. man so we got we walked out, he said.
Brother Y’all serious. He say man do you know how hard it is to give up that bacon and head from a white woman? My bad man who’s who’s so I no longer eat bacon or white wasn’t don’t eat white women. No, I said it right.
And I don’t know if he’s no one 000. that’s married to a black woman. Oh well correct you don’t find uh I still haven’t let that go. Yeah. That was my brother. I still have a little go. Yeah, but the the point
That I’m trying to make is we went through a lot. A lot of people don’t notice about me and this is the first time I talk about it publicly um after we met with Farrakhan, so apparently they were. Okay, the government was and they said
That um they feared we were trying to relaunch the Black Panthers so for 6 months every Friday at noon, I had to go to the Department of Justice in Lansing and sit and be interrogated. The same questions are they will put you
On the terror. Watch Yes. And when I say I can’t man I couldn’t get a job to save my life. I think to this day. that’s one of the reasons why I couldn’t get on with the feds Okay because we stood up for
Ourselves and. Tested like a lot of the young folks are doing now what you what you gotta understand what what they do um in any situation they humanize the the the actual criminal Yeah, and they they victimize well they dehumanize
The victim. Okay, You know they they they make it look like cuz if you ever notice when they have people um of color, get murdered or something like that. And then they they they come up with pictures like the little girl who got who got
Murdered in San Francisco. She had a cellphone. Look like a gun and she had like like like she was violent suicide and they humanize the person who killed her. It was a white young man. You know he killed the woman and and they wanted.
It’s it’s just funny. Yeah anytime cuz they got the media so we got like Trump said. You know some some of the media is faking them. watch and be careful how you listen to what they’re talking about. Yes because these people will you
Know spend spend. On you, Imma tell you something that whole situation out of that changed my life redirected my life. I’m sure like with everybody what up everybody that was attending college at that time. Uh I really take my head off to um
Andre Riley. uh what’s a few of those guys that you know, but we had raised you know we as a collective we raise so much hell that it made them guys pretty much untouchable because spotlight is on one of the one
Of the situation you know, there’s a bunch of different interviews that we did um. WG PR um inside edition, I mean this thing went worldwide. Do you remember when the president of the college went on? Was it twenty it was twenty or 60
Minutes and asking him the questions about what happened this man was on so much stress and stress that he went home and had a massive heart attack. All you had to do man. I know you can’t hear me cuz you’re on
The other side all you had to do man was just reprimand the fraternity. That did that damage to us see this is the stuff that you know Society Corporate America colleges will sweep stuff under the rug for the sake of their brand instead
Of making things better. So look um we gonna get out of that part. Did you want anything else before we get before we move on to the next topic? Oh like I said it’s uh it’s it’s something that you never you. never forget. you
Know it’s uh it’s a situation that you know it travels with you to life. You know I’ve had situations and. I you know, got emotional because you know you know all the time my grandmother was a strong influence in my life. You know,
God bless her soul, you know and you know you know. it’s a tough ride. You know how you get to college. It’s a big deal. You know I was uh out of my siblings. You know, I was the first one to go to college.
Yeah and so you know it was like that kinda took my took me off track. Yeah took the air out of us. Yeah and you know it took me a while to get back. you know I was you know, I was
Pretty much out there for a while and. It took me some time you know now, I got you know four children on my own. Yeah and uh you know you have to tell them you know I understand because it took your dad a
While to get on track. Yeah, you know I wanna say this though out of all of those people at all that college man, I take my head off to y’all cuz I follow a lot of them on Facebook and uh regardless of
What we went through, we had to go to other educational places to get our degrees lot of the people with screw ups. Yeah, uh hold on. let me make this comment right quick. A lot of people were screwed such as myself, but now their attorneys
Hi. lawyers with these students Services department, Oh ??? that’s all of that is that all they call us five. Oh ??? Tell him to call back. I want you to call back. Yeah need to hear that ??? Okay. uh listen um attorneys uh lawyers doctors
Best-selling authors journeys. Yeah and journeys, which is require a lot more education than was required at a uh black professionals speakers This thing really prompted us to do something huge man what I like and out of college owes us a
Major apology a major question major apology and a public apology. And real talk y’all some honorary degrees ain’t No, I agree cuz we went through a lot We went through a lot even before that situation and remember that was that call uh
We didn’t mean to hang up on you. call back call 24854 9850 24854 9850. Uh I wanna hear your feedback. We went through so much stuff prior to that race was just the boiling point. I remember trying to get a black fraternity black
Fraternity and he wouldn’t allow us to have. But you have several white fraternity. what you you gotta see that the fact that they didn’t want you to unify on that type. This is your that type of structure because now you got you got
Just as much or as the next person um see a lot a lot of it um stands back from them when our parents or kids and stuff like that, my mother used to always tell me be careful dealing with the other people
Right, the white women and in general because they would go back and tell their family that you did something negative. To right, um, we sit there and tell me stories about the fact that um when our cousins was married to a white white woman,
Yeah and what happened was apparently that he beat her and she went back and told her family right it came back and lynched them, and it was probably a lot. No he beat her. It was his wife, though, like back, then they they they would
Have some right but you don’t, but don’t understand he beat her so she she wasn’t a white, so you can be a free agent but not the wife, but you couldn’t be you could be your black wife, but you couldn’t be your
White wife, Okay, didn’t know it was barrier. To a white one, but if she’s black ??? yeah right and why did I know that they came and uh you know they led them. Wow. We’re talking about this. This is in
The 20s and 30s you know they they still um doing and stuff like that that that we don’t realize when you’re when you’re outside of your own race. Yeah, you don’t you don’t realize that the different dynamic. Yeah. Yeah all of that college.
Well, you know you know and this is Cheyenne uh you know on that. you know I just wanna say. I’m very proud of these young people. Yeah, that’s uh making a difference. uh back, then you know by myself. It
Wasn’t a lot of us like us. You know it was it was it was in target on our back. It was yeah, it was a lot of people were afraid you know whether you were in college or you was
On you know here in an above or how whatever you know across this country just one enough, you know we just wouldn’t stick together in the idea get started, but it was just letting enough of us coming together. To make a difference,
But right now, I see these young people and a lot of these young people are our children. Yeah, right. yeah and uh you know I think the fruits of it all is that we were talking about it a lot and I think our
You know their parents which are is our siblings. You know, I mean our peers or whatever we’re talking so their kids are more so now than they ever been and I’m I’m very proud of it. What did uh the Black Lives
Movement and yeah all these organizations that’s coming together they uh they’re doing a good job. They’re just not stopping they’re continuing. so the thing is that I like is that they’re making a move. But I just hate that we didn’t have
That voice. We didn’t have that voice go ahead. call her go ahead. call her. Hey. it’s Danny guys. Danny What’s going on? Hey just checking in to let you guys know I’m listening to y’all Y’all are amazing. These topics are like boom good so
Proud. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Byron. I finished the book, which is that which book was that what can I get to that They can get it on Amazon. Yeah you gotta get that book. It is. I finished it last night
And I was just sitting here like wow. you are amazing. Your mother was amazing Yeah, she was. she was some I was like this little lady Wow, She didn’t realize at the um audio book is even more. Oh, yeah,
You know, um you you you. you gotta listen. you can hear it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So if those are those people out there who are really not into the audio books are available and then you know definitely well worth it. However, they read it or
Listen to it was just I was like this virus. I see a whole different life. Come on, I’m telling you get on here we just don’t know what you think about this topic today. This topic is really good. Um I never had
Would have known that was the issue so that’s like a college. I never would have known that. Yeah until you know just the story of listening to you in regards to it. but yeah we uh man I didn’t have that we were
In big Rapids in states. I mean it was it was there, but during that time, it wasn’t it was there, but it wasn’t. You know what I’m saying like he knew what was happening, but it wasn’t and it took for one
Group of black men and they had credit their own group called Black because black uh attorneys and sororities up there. Yeah, they were looked at as more gang related. so there’s white swords, sororities and attorneys. It was like this is all about
Sisterhood Brotherhood but with us, it wasn’t I didn’t see it like that it wasn’t portrayed. That and he was just kinda like wow. OK, that’s different because you have an organization is still in existence called black and it
Was couple of guys that live in our dorm. They started this uh Ken Elkins. I remember him he’s pretty big out there now uh Carlos Hardy pretty big out there now, but um they’re graduated, but they started this community and it was all
About helping and saving black men to graduate that was their whole thing. That’s they started their own organization so wasn’t fraternity, but it was. Still black because they were black and it was black and it was like well hop on the
White people cuz y’all have everything else right. So. yeah, you’re right. Let me ask you a question. real quick. don’t go ahead. No no. I was gonna say you know that’s that it’s that fear of the black Messiah Yeah. That’s what it
Is. They don’t want. I’m coming out our community. No let me ask you a question. While I got you will be great transition to the next topic of uh huh being black in corporate America. How does that make you feel pros
And kind? Pros and cons is that the company I’m with now and not supporting us. so I’m not gonna you know put that out there, but they are really big in regards to supporting African Americans They even have like there. We have like
Our own team where they do everything Black everything black, they’re supporting it. They’re doing good things. They’re just like they’re promoting us and they are very about the cost. They’re offer the cause and I think that’s great but years ago you.
Wouldn’t have heard of it years ago, I couldn’t wear my dreadlocks twisted out. I can’t wear my dreadlocks in a bun you know and now it’s like you know you have so many people on here where it’s like they are just
You know. it’s out there. What was your problem with the hair with black hair? uh in corporate America? What’s the problem with that? What what he is straight? It wasn’t straight. It did not look um it didn’t look groom enough. Yes,
It wasn’t grown. Yeah it just look and now you know I sit there and I’m like. Oh, you know, but see Also what comes with it is okay. you accept us to accept our hairstyles you accept you know our culture,
However, we have to accept the other cultures we have to accept the binary we have to accept the conceptual we have to accept we have to accept all of these different things. so the one thing I do like about our company is that they’re not
Forcing it down anyone’s throat. They’re not forcing my blackness, not anybody’s They’re not forcing anyone else who. Down my throat, but the black and corporate America back in Oh, yeah, it was definitely it was hard. I was determined I was like I want
This. I was all about that title. I was all about that money. I’m a little older now and I’m like I don’t care about the title. Give me my money right so I’m trying and we can do this so my priorities have
Kinda switched up a little bit, but I look at the younger ones coming up and I’m saying fight forces. I’m all for you do that and I’m like been there done that ??? Wrote the song T shirt right, I just look at my Let me
Let me cut that only one second. What what were you about to say you say you disagree with something I was talking about the fact that you know they our culture and a hairstylist. you know it’s like it’s it was because of the fact
That they wanted us to be more um how they want us to conform to their lifestyle, you know and and like that’s the we’re the only culture that they they they want. Us to give up our heritage and our to be a part
Of and it’s crazy because like the last company I was with they wanna be like the company home with now I mean they they salivate cuz they wanted to be like this be a company now, however, they make sure that
The first person at the front desk is she was black. She was a size two. she had straight hair um she had you know there was a certain complexion, She spoke a certain way she had a certain look and yeah, Danny
Was sitting at the front. ??? because whatever but I was out in the field, I was out with my thing on the side. We gotta take this other car thanks a lot go ahead, but I will talk to you guys soon. Okay. Alright
Have a good day. Take care guys. Take it easy. Go ahead. Hello call her. Good morning everyone what’s going on Hey good morning. What do you think about this topic? man? I just I just really got in. I just
Really got in on the end of it um on the topic with you guys about the things you were doing up in school and it sound like Y’all were doing great positive things my brother on the right hand side upper right hand side
Man it sound like he was making some great moves up there. man I’ll be so happy to hear about us and me making moves you understand when they when they fear us. What they don’t they feel are they fear our skin and
They fear the power of our skin and what we can do as black men. so man um uh very uh hello gentlemen. Are you hear me? Yeah you breaking. Yeah. Stop moving creo. Okay. Let me stop moving um as I said, man, I’m
Very impressed on uh what you have done and thank you Y’all Y’all Y’all were talking about um the uh corporate America black people in corporate America man We’ve come so far Corporate America, but we still got we still have a long way to
Go as far as being accepted in corporate America. right. that’s right uh you know they do a lot of. For us like you know, we’re gonna do this for the black people and you know uplift them, but I still don’t feel they’re doing enough by
Question. Is I got by me being a sports guy? I would just tell one of my uh one of my boys. the other day, I said We got 80% of the Nba Black 73% of the Nfl, black and out of all these
To these two Major league Sports League. We have one black owner, you know who that is. that’s Michael Jordan. You know why cuz Michael Jordan made them. Money you didn’t make them no money and he thinks like a white man and
He’s special They ain’t check for you. They check for you. but Imma tell you who they ain’t checking for, but they don’t have to respect it or check it sooner or later. it’s gonna be Lebron James coming at you. It’s coming He’s he’s
Gonna be the next black owner. He’s he’s gonna be the next black owner. probably the Cleveland Cavaliers. They got minority owners right now while the other Cleveland Cavaliers like um, I was like somebody exactly. A majority ownership right, Yeah, like Michael
Jordan, right, Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Imma switch it up. Real quick. Hey, thanks for coming out. Jay Z Jay Z on. Yeah. No, that’s true. Yeah, you got the Brooklyn. He’s not by himself, though he’s not the majority. He’s not the majority owner.
Get at you. I will reach out to you um inbox you today. Okay. Alright. most definitely. alright bro. Alright. Let me thanks a lot so um tell me what it’s like for you working in corporate America to elevate to
Where you got to right now and the pitfalls of the brothers the sandals and the racist white boys. What kind of things did you have to go through? then I want you to catch the same thing go ahead well um my own experience was. Basically
Um troublemaker uh because I was very vous okay, so you were they labeled you a troublemaker. Yeah, very boisterous. Uh you know I tell the young people now that uh I think that’s how to respect. That’s the how to respect I get
Today because I was yes, I think that uh what makes me sad is when I see talented black people intimidated of their talents and they don’t they don’t move. Nowhere to stay complacent right and I see that lot in a corporate America.
That’s a whole that I mean I’m talking about on a daily basis, You know God’s women and guys more way more talented than I am and just won’t move because simple fact is they don’t have that mind state that white people are better than that
Slave mentality. Yeah and they can have two or 3° you know and uh I think I don’t think it is something when I say what what what they they they? In the but as I think what it is like a lot of people just don’t wanna
Be dealing with the fact that once you once you get to a certain point, you become middle management and middle management, you have the have the people below giving you grief and the people above you giving you grief, but you know
They do that for a reason, especially with black supervisors all the blacks. I hate to say it in most situations. um it’s really nothing but the overseer it, especially if you’re you your under links are all black because. The corporate
Corporations telling you what to do and hand it down so when you say something that’s aggressive or stressful almost harassing is not harassing because it’s coming from you because you’re black and so the hits are handed up handed down
From below. so let me ask you this man. what type of things have you going through? um as a as a supervisor? well didn’t Bennett Bennett Management management is like okay like Lamar getting. Grief comes from upstairs. Yeah, you feed it to
The people that you supposed to feed it to the same way. it was fair to you. Yeah, but then they go complain to your your superiors and now the superior gonna say, Oh, we’re gonna me it out. He’s just been no
Joker. You gave it to me like that and I gave it to them the same way that you spent you fed it to me. you know it’s not my fault. They can’t take it with no sugar right right. you know
You won’t put sugar on it for the other cuz and all actuality you know it’s the it’s the peep. To actually do the work you have to care about more so than you yeah, they care about their feelings. They don’t care
About your feelings being in the middle management you you’re just stuck there. Tanisha what you’re going through as a black woman in corporate America that needs to change um well, mine wasn’t with another color. It was with the um older black women. Yeah
Um they are very II wouldn’t drink. Drive with them and I think that’s where it started from and I had to be this boogie person and then because I was literally I left my job. I was getting paid really good
Money so I didn’t wanna mess up so it wasn’t that I into the ring. I wasn’t into the reindeer games. I just couldn’t chance that I had too much stuff at state, but they try to get rid of me like several
Times lied on me the whole nine and that was for Bridgewater and the woman that did it, she knew um. So uh and she been there forever so they were doing all type of stuff I should’ve got a lawyer. I
Could’ve got a lawyer and I could have sold them, but that was the worst it wasn’t the white people that did me wrong. It was and then to me and um and higher ranks uh sexual harassment. Yeah, you know because I don’t wanna you know
I can’t get the promotion or I can’t do overtime or something like that. unless you know, Oh, yeah that too you know. and with these, you know you know, I’m glad we. Talking about this topic because you know, especially with the environment
Going on with the movement and everything that you know Corporation and what this what this what upsets me? there’s a lot of corporations out here. That’s really letting you have your voice but the wrong people are the ones with the voice.
Yes, you know, cuz there’s a lot of us. It’s a lot of us. That’s still kumbaya. Yeah, you know, everything is good and everything and they telling you. Okay, We didn’t give you this to say it. we totally we wanna know what’s going on in
Our corporation but you got that one they pick and say he just wanna say I see so much change since I’ve been here 40 years right, you know and that’s that’s that’s Bs. Yeah, you know, no you get down to
The grit and tell the truth and then you know for they can see you know cuz they can’t see when you say everything’s okay and I see things going well. Okay. John. Well, you know. thanks for thanks for that and I’m glad you’re people. Okay,
And that’s that’s just that’s sending the wrong message. Yeah, you know, I’m I’m I’m Imma take this back to a little bit further back like back to slavery, um the doing slavery uh if you if you’re uh lot of you didn’t know who your actual
Match there was you know this is one of this is a book. I think I got this from a book on um uh uh not wd boy but um what’s that um well in the in the event. What it what it talked about was the slave
Owner. Actually asked him who’s your who’s your sleigh master who’s your master and he said, Oh, is he a good master and stuff like that you know and as he said, no, he’s the worst master ever and then they sold
Him for south to where it really was bad. Oh also in a lot of cases. what what you’re getting with those people that that residual, you know cuz you really don’t wanna tell them how really harsh it is cuz you could actually get worse
Because you know you don’t wanna sell yourself to. but that’s what the union. Is for that we have to see you know we got rights. Yeah. you do have rights now, but I’m saying you know these are these are things
That came from that. Yeah, but what I’m saying is and and you’re absolutely right and they still do practice that if you complain about something they usually put you in the worst position like why I was working in the prison system
Labeled as a troublemaker because I stood up for ??? you know well they try to. but anytime anytime you gave ??? I turned it into Fertilize and I made money that’s right so. Thing is you can try to you can
Try to do whatever you wanna do to me, but Imma make it better and then in the process of making it better. You’re harassing me. I put paper on your ??? once I create that paper trail and here’s the thing though people gotta know
The statue limitations and most units most jobs, something happen to you got 21 days to file agreements. you don’t follow that grievance, then it never existed. Okay. So you file a grievance, then you go to e. you got 6 months to
Follow EC if you don’t follow. E at don’t exist so remember to take those steps because of steps like that we don’t have to keep worrying about getting abused and used and all of this stuff and like, said man, You
Gotta keep having a voice. You gotta keep having a voice. um I just say man. listen if you’re trying to push toward a goal a mark in your business um of work do what you’re supposed to do be what you’re supposed to
Be um but always have. Out because don’t think that these people not upset about everything that’s going on right, they’re waiting and looking and expecting I was upset cuz to go yesterday cuz you know he’s like that upset me because that guy was gonna
Win man. You know what he do is that joke, but that Joker is still he’s a Trump supporter. 75 years old man. Yeah, still balling and he falling his ??? off. well. You know what that’s that’s one win for the Trump
Supporters man, you know, Tom Brady. Yeah, I mean, but you know all the. I’m going to jail, he’s trying to go to jail 1 day trying to get let out of jail cuz so she can go on vacation to one guy was
Complaining. He’s locked up his food needs to be uh I’m like man if you don’t get your ??? in that prison worry about that ??? Yeah. Alright. So look alright. so we’re gonna switch it up again we about to talk about the boyfriend experience.
Tell me what do you think that is um I don’t know tell me about it. This. What is the difference between a boy and a man? No no that type of person? I’m Imma tell you how to explain to me. Okay, you know I
Just I didn’t know it was a title to it. Boyfriend experiences a woman who doesn’t necessarily want to be in an exclusive relationship, but she wants the benefits of having the benefits of having a man, but without saying that’s her
Man so before anybody go anywhere, let me say this is nipsey hustle. I usually don’t rap. I’m using on quote rappers is a good example. Yeah, he said You don’t possess people you experience. Exactly that’s that’s that’s a true fact you
Can’t you don’t possess people. you experience them. So is it wrong for a woman to say she wants to just have the boyfriend you know cuz she she’s very busy. She works um she don’t want to have so she don’t want the problems that
Come with that guy. So what do you? What do you think about that? just be upfront just be upfront with him? Most guys well, that’s all they want in your way. It’s a good little lady. But sometimes it’s not really just delay because the
Boyfriend experience goes more than just delay because it might be a movie. it might be cuddling. It might be dinner well just go with the flow. everything right you see him everything don’t have to have a title. My thing is just enjoy
Life. That’s the angriest, but you look like a movie just wanna get lit but why does why does everything have to have a title? Well? that’s? That’s the point that well, I think the thing is this this This particular thing is because you
Have certain things that go along with the boyfriend like what have you you don’t don’t get a cookie up to nobody but you know what hey that not only the fact that you know, okay. Alright for everybody for everybody but to do that that’s
Giving the boyfriend experience right you understand because I’ve been in situations where people have gone. I’ve taken them out to dinner and they’ve gone overboard with the with the with. The meal hey, you know, it’s it’s it’s two sides of the meal
Of the meal and then a boyfriend started a meal. They put it lightly. You know we talk about you can be the same, but you know so that you know we gonna we gonna talk about the fact that if I’m not on
That boyfriend side, you stay your a on the front side of the menu being real PC. you know you know I agree with you. I agree with you but we talk about. there’s a guy on the couch that’s gonna benefit.
From you taking this lady out and that’s why I’m upset uh my thing is III got uh it’s somebody and I tell him the truth, but I promise you, he think I’m a player. What what what do Y’all get the information like what do y’all?
Honestly? I’ll be with my aunties and my mom and then like all day everyday go with my kids Okay. but you know what you make for like this the way you and you and your and your verbiage you make room for.
When you want sauce, oh ??? episodes. do you make you make what you make room for that? But what we’re talking about and in some cases, you have people that just say well, I don’t I don’t want the sauce. I
Got the sausage on the couch All I want is the meal right. How about we go to Red Lobster Red Lobster is the boyfriend side get to do it off the couch. The lobster is cheap. Come on now. okay. We’re talking about change. We we’re
Talking about a mess around the world. Did she get that ultimate feast? They cost $28 So y’all wanna go get two for 22 for twenty you you wanna uh hey times have changed cuz I remember real lobster was the one you know have changed. yes
They have, but because I mean because it has, I mean you know we love to is kinda like taking a woman to McDonald’s these days, you know it’s is it true man. you know they go beyond man. don’t let them see some
Names that sound unique and it’s Italian. Yeah, you know they just you know, don’t know the menu for nothing, but just like I wanna go there, you know for real so you are gonna give her that boyfriend experience. Oh yeah,
But the dude on the couch is still gonna be okay. So listen. Listen. I got a problem with the dude on the cup. Reach your ??? get your ??? off the couch the boyfriend experience includes comes with a side of ??? Okay, right that’s don’t
Come with it. Yeah, but it don’t come. It’s like it’s like get to do with us getting there to give it to you. But see you know, sometimes that’s just the on call guy man. No. that’s the broke ??? that’s sitting on the
Couch. I know you do you need this one. Alright. Well, you know what you know what I’m a true believer of I’m a true believer of the way you approach is the way you end up. That’s right. and so if you know if I’m if
I’m coming across the uh I’m the dang dang man. I’m gonna give it to you. That’s from day one what you call it the day man if if I be that man that’s from day one, you know who I
Am, you know a lot of a lot of times you gotta understand brothers. We we that’s a lot of a lot of brothers out here. you know they come off with that taking out the dinner stuff. Yeah. and so that woman expect.
All the time and then when a woman move on that guy can’t handle it right that boyfriend, you know he’s all ??? ??? into. I did this for you, but if you would’ve came across in the beginning then that’s why if
You get an understanding from the get go, it ain’t nothing there you go there you go. I can’t hear myself. can you uh it You can’t hear you? Yes. I can’t let me say let me say this real quick but you’re
Right the dang dang man that’s. You go now if I don’t won’t do it, the dang man can. Hey, doctor Jamal Bryant said a one sided relationship will have you looking sideways. Yeah. What do you think about that? man? What do you think
About a one sided relationship? Yeah sideways. So I mean you think you’re a relationship but you’re really not uh huh and we we we put ourselves in um relationship you know when that guy ain’t into you did he show
It when you only get a car late at night and something like that he ain’t trying to be seen with. you can’t come around. you ain’t met his mama. Nobody. you know what it is right. What you think about that. II think
You know what you know from from experience in back in the day, you know I think yeah. come on. Imma say. Imma say this man being a dog is being a dog. What I mean by that is women don’t respect when you
Come off like just uh you know aggressive a lot because simple fact, you know simple fact they like Oh you don’t treat. I mean, I said they don’t respect when you don’t come across. Okay. They don’t respect when you don’t come across you gotta
Keep that dog. Yeah, you gotta you know cuz it’s like man I remember man you thought when you thought you. That one sometime and you’re doing all the right things next thing you know, man. she’s like, Oh, you’re not into me it never you
Know. it’s it’s like, Oh ??? I should have been the guy was with the last one and it would work out to chase. We just like the fact of knowing that y’all y’all are you gotta let us know you gotta let us know but we
You know my thing. Yeah, you can sit up and talk about it and then I don’t see you for two 3 days and you text every night and get that you couldn’t want. Me me baby what you know you need to stop running stop.
You know I don’t want you don’t want somebody and you give them all the attention when you give them all the attention, then they take you for granted because you’re too freaking nice at that point and then you’ll get to high school. now
You’re saying dance like you was joking around. Don’t be talking about right now. You will give me the. Come. Alrigh t. so um yeah so uh so check this out. So now we’re gonna get into soul tie some people certain people should
Not be with certain people. Okay this ties get mixed up when you know when both parties got real good sex but real bad mental agendas you’ve had somebody that you can’t you just wish there was a deaf mute and if they wanted to give you
Something just point to it. Nothing else and after that they just disappear, Yeah. But then they say something and now you’re right back at the argument. I’m sorry that’s not messed up the whole moves you should not be involved in
People that you can’t stand Yes. Oh. yeah. So what happens what happens? Imma start with you. What happens when you give your heart to the Roman. He tried to kill me. I told you that he said my block off the
Whole block off Oh and man his friend and how you talk your friends and your cousins to come and do that well. nobody walking out so off the hook. My god, It was very toxic. So that’s why I learned how to sit
On it just sit on it. Ain’t nothing wrong with sitting on it to be like this sit down. So what happens when you get your heart you to get your heart to the to the. Woman in the past, Oh, yeah. Oh. yeah. you know it
It got beat down. You know it’s uh but I think you know you have to still keep going. Yes, you gotta still keep giving your heart. you can’t because if you if you if you stop, you know you’re robbing yourself and the person that you
Supposedly wanna be with so you know you gotta you gotta take the beat down. You Know, II explained that to young people cuz you see these young people out here you, you know you watch the news you see young people killing these girls uh
Because they don’t want them no more. Take the heart take the heartache and keep rolling okay. We’re gonna go over a little bit a little bit cuz we started late how much time we got what we look at we. it’s twelve. Oh nine. okay. We’re
Gonna take about three more minutes. They got the news they got the move. Yeah. it’s gonna be late today um so uh real quick um I’m gonna say one thing here. I’m just gonna say a couple of things that we’re gonna get out here. Protect
Your heart when you give you know to the member of the opposite um and if you’re dealing with somebody that. Jealous Notice the signs up front um because it might be cute in the beginning and it might be AP in the end. Well
Can I say something on that too that goes along with the um the sex sometimes you can’t handle it and you have to literally walk away if Y’all. Yeah, that chemistry to where. It’s fire you, you understand what I’m saying. And that’s
Just that if you you grow feelings and ??? you gotta break it and walk away. Yeah. jealousy is not bad It’s just when it gets dangerous. Okay. So uh let me see this real quick um don’t project your feelings onto the other person
Express to them how you feel how do you do that like um leave your past in the past? Yeah Y’all Let you know I love you. You know. I do all this. I do all that you know just making them feel like making
Them feel pressured like you get back. Because of that, exactly they’re not obligated to feel the same way. Do you need to tell it look. I’m not feeling that way. I mean it’s about it. You know, uh see a couple more things. I guess you
Need to understand your mate. This is part of the boyfriend experience understand your mate um again don’t get involved with people that you’re not attracted to sometimes we you know people in the past present future will have randoms be bored. The pandemic there’s a
Lot lot of random getting banged on this pandemic with the mask on and everything that look good. ain’t good. Neither so watch it you pull that mask ??? you might look beautiful. Yup. Oh man. Uh remember that who are you dealing with they
Must be able to stimulate your mind and not just more the essential parts. they gotta do that too, But we got two heads do something we got two heads. It’s gonna be don’t just focus down. I mean that’s that’s alright, but you gotta put some
Up here too. Um oh this is this is good fellas. make sure you’re not just a dildo substitute Ain’t nothing wrong with that. It’s gonna be I mean if you’re in between if I can’t use you’re useless buddy Okay.
So look out. Yeah. I mean I mean smoking from a lady but make sure you’re not a dildo substitute because um you wanna be okay and you don’t you wanna be okay cuz after you know she beat it up and throw your ???
In the corner like bald of homework. Yeah man you don’t you don’t wanna be there just for the orgasm. Okay. you don’t wanna be just for org. You wanna be you want her to be able to energize you and not
Just drain you so again it’s you know it’s you gotta recycle it. You know what I’m saying cuz a man you know I was gonna say Dildo run on batteries. get low get low. They got a rose now or whatever what’s up? What
Is it sucks on a um? Oh yeah, they got different speeds, You know what. Anybody wanna add anything for relief. I just wanna say thank you for inviting me to the show man. I really appreciate this. thank you for showing up man.
Uh now I don’t have anything I mean uh Valentine’s Day coming up. I left your gifts. I left your gifts running out so we gotta have a show Monday. Let’s make sure we get we gotta have a show Monday so I can bring
Y’all your gifts. Alright. we’re gonna let the ladies. we’re gonna let you we’re gonna let you spearhead uh the day after Valentine’s Day. This is gonna be good cuz yeah. Talk about whatever you talk about whatever you want Y’all put it
In my inbox. What y’all wanna know ladies? let’s ask some Imma sit back. uh you check out the white roses. go ahead, red roses or white roses. Not like that’s what I got all over my body is red red roses. What you
What you mean like tattoos. Yeah. I got roses here. I don’t have a tramp stamp though I got one up here around my pretty smooth. Yeah. It’s a it’s a scratch. It’s a scratch and sniff on now. Be careful what
You wish for. At first, he was like yeah, he was ready to choke somebody out. Thank you all for tuning in uh this is episode twenty-four. make sure you like and share like and share y’all ain’t been liking and sharing your ??? like and
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