All right so the last story for me for tonight is a spinoff story from the fraternity forchan Theory right so we presented part two last week and we got a whole bunch of good responses whole bunch of good reviews comments and it seemed like everyone loved it now one of
The things that we talked about in that video is we touched on where we believed the uh the hate the concern the worry around fraternities secret societies the Masons all came from and there was this one pinpointed event that it happened from which really started everything and
It as I was reading on this to talk about it cuz so many people are interested in it um and it is a true crime case it is a true crime case uh I found out that it actually came from within which makes me believe it and
Want to know even more cuz someone was in the ingame and chose to step out and be like whoa this isn’t right this isn’t right so who and what are we talking about the Masonic Fraternal Order in fraternities that inspired the the first third party in America and American politics public outcry over
Whistleblower William Morgan’s disappearance gave rise to the anti-masonic anti- Fraternal party which nominated a candidate for president in 1832 we almost had a third party of politics because of this because of the concern worry and hate for fraternities the Masons are it is a fraternity these are all fraternities and we brought up
Last week the concern with fraternities and the concerning statistics around them and how they essentially own colleges by money by way of money yep so where this starts Samuel D green came to bavia New York in the 1820s to open a Tavern all right as he got to know the
Town green realized that both his deacon at his church and his doctor and a few friends were Freemasons and soon enough a friend invited him to join the fraternity the secret fraternity of the Masons so uh he he joined he joined he was considered a self-made man um he was
Making good money and the the fraternities back then were all upper class people all the rich people and they used to have fraternity parades so the uh clothing was a big deal back then and huge huge huge deal because if you were lower classmen then you were working in the
Mud you were working in the dirt you were doing the hard labor and that was a certain type of clothing okay when you were a maid person when you were an upper class person you were in the proper suit top hat white gloves and you were as clean as can be because everyone
Did everything for you so these fraternities would create parades where all of them would walk with their heads up their noses up and their white gloves down the street BAS basically telling the rest of the Town look at me is that not strange it is strange I feel like that’s super somebody needed
To go throw tomatoes at him yeah I can’t even imagine being in that like being in the parade or watching it I would I would feel awkward there like this is I’m just watching people who sat together and was like let’s make a parade together because we
Have money I mean wealth used to be people used to look up to the wealthy I mean kind of like we look up to celebrities now if you’re wealthy you were like of status you were a celebrity I get it it’s just weird being a socialite was such a thing you know it’s
Just weird very weird it is so uh Samuel D green to give you a rundown of how it was was that one of those self-made men and he joined the Freemason Lodge of 433 and Freemason Lodge 433 changed the entire course of fraternities literally the Masons are what created fraternities
Into what they are today with their rituals and everything and it was this Lodge specifically before this time the Masons were just rich people that is it they were just upper class people you had to have a certain status a certain White Glove life and uh you were pretty
Much guaranteed in but um now enters the other uh Thomas Smith web was a son of a mechanic Webb was a bookbinder and he rose through the ranks in the New England society establishing himself again as a self-made gentleman also uh but his more lasting impact was
His role in formalizing a series of rituals for use in Masonic lodges so this guy joins the lodge okay uh and it it doesn’t say when he joined he was already like a managerial part of the lodge and like I said they it was all rich people before well web decided to
Change how The Lodges did things and uh through his role it said in here that uh his more lasting impact was formalizing a series of rituals for use in Masonic lodges web thought the most important aspect of of fraternities was its rituals which would bind Brothers together in the strongest manner
Possible the more esoteric the more crazy the more absurd the ritual the more taboo uh the more bonded these brothers became because I think it’s that idea like hey if we’re Outcast let’s be outcasts together and like be outcast I am whatever you say I am right
I’m Outcast I’m I’m this weird acting in the shadows person so they leaned into this they leaned into this and started coming up with all these rituals um and uh he it it gave a rundown of what some of those rituals were and it when they had a new brother they would blindfold
Him and blow out all the candles or whatever and they would take turns like pushing him I guess really weird I’ve seen that in movies before yeah really really weird uh so that if he fell they would help you up and stuff so I guess it’s a way to like depend on your
Brotherhood or something like that I don’t know trust building exercise yeah something something um but as it said in here masonry of the 1820s was more dependent on its Secrets than previous generations had been which helped explain why the men of bavia Lodge 433 managed to get caught up in this uh
Scene in this Tri in this true crime of the 1800s okay so a man named William Morgan Morgan was reportedly a veteran of the war of 1812 he was a brick layer from Virginia who’d settled in bavia generally a well-liked outgoing member of the community he had been actively involved in the Masons
This entire time um and it was Morgan who helped instruct Green in the rights as the town owner and his rituals and he would help people take Oaths and based on what I’m reading he started becoming uncomfortable with the rituals like it was getting it was getting weird is what my guess
Was you know what I mean it it who knows what other kind of rituals they were talking about like you know adult type rituals I I not not G-rated more like RR type stuff yeah for sure so um or xrated and as he was going through that you
Know Morgan became more and more disillusion to the fraternity in New York um and as as he was getting uncomfortable with the rituals he was also seeing the unhealthy control in politics and uh he wasn’t okay with that he felt like the Masons should be separate from politics and he was
Worried about their power so he started creating this idea of publishing an expose of the group that revealed all of its traditions and secrets so he wrote it he was getting everything ready to go he’ even lined up a publisher this guy named David Miller and was working on exposing the fraternities uh
Specifically the the Masons in this uh secrets for the whole world to see now Lodge 433 the ones who started creating these rituals this weird type bonded Brotherhood uh vowed to never let that happen so they get work up in a frenzy they start uh trying to figure out like
What are we going to do here how are we going to make the to stop and as green who is one of the men that I talked about in the beginning would later explain a curious air of detached conspiracy settled over the lodge in the summer of 1826 it was clear to everyone
That something needed to be done about Morgan’s threatening Revelations yet no one could say outright what that something might be according to Green conversations became increasingly roundabout and half enigmatical the brothers would denounce Morgan as a wicked and perjured wretch and then someone would chime in and say something
Like all honest Masons would see that appropriate penalties had to be executed but the threats remained vague and no one would come out and say specifically what they plan to do you know so it’s almost like just back room chatter essentially that hey this is a
Fraternity we can’t let this guy do that that that can’t happen so what the Masons did in this is they actually gathered with other fraternity members okay because they were protecting this fraternity idea and this is super interesting yep um but they tried harassment first they besieged Miller
The um the uh the printer right the one who was going to publish and print this and uh they besieged Miller Morgan’s would be publisher with lawsuits and on Saturday August 19th they had Morgan arrested un trumped up charges involving a stolen shirt and tie and they kept him
In jail through Monday so he couldn’t work on printing that uh that statement um of their secrets or whatever while Morgan was in prison Masons ransacked his lodgings looking for the manuscript but Morgan and Miller were unbowed they were ahead of it they thought that something like this could happen so on
September 10th arsonist attempted to set fire to Miller’s printing office the fire were quickly extinguished um but by that point there’s no going back they’re committing crimes this is the first time that we see something like this being done so there was nothing that was going to
Stop it so the morning after the fire Morgan was arrested once again after he just literally just got out and was held through Monday held through the weekend I’m assuming what they did is they would charge him and knew that charge wouldn’t stick and as soon as he would get in
Front of the judge he would be let out so they picked him up on Friday held all weekend and then let him out Monday or whatever well they did this again so uh they they picked him up this time on a phony debt charge of $2 they said that
This guy owed $2 yeah but this time he they took him to Canon digua canona I’m probably hacking that but it’s 45 mil east of bavia there’s no cars back then so imagine the commitment 45 east of bavia way out of there for who knows why and nobody can explain that except that
This was planned okay he was held overnight until a man he had never seen before arrived to pay his bail bail and have him released Morgan’s initial relief quickly turned to Terror and as he was being walked away by these two men uh he was yelling murder murder
Murder they’re going to murder me and uh he was sh shoved roughly into the carriage and was literally never seen again and these are firstand accounts these are firsthand accounts okay and there’s literally a drawing that I put on the last video talking about this and
I’ll I’ll put it up here artists came out and painted pictures about it people were up in arms man um so was he murdered nobody knows for sure because the body was never recovered no one ever hurt from him again and in 1827 a a few
Men three or four men got arrested um with the kidnapping of this so it was uh Lon Lawson Nicholas cheesbro Edward Sawyer uh were convicted of kidnapping him but they would later hint that they had driven Morgan to Rochester and then uh West to an empty Fort and then talked
About how they had taken him to the Canadian border and told him you can never come come back yeah right they I know I know so it was let off okay you got to remember these fraternities owned the local government here they owned the local government here police he had been
Arrested two times from police those police were surely uh involved in some way they were fraternity members right um that’s scary when you got the uh police as fraternity members police lawyers judges politicians there’s literally nothing you can do so um the Inner Circle though with these firsthand accounts that were
Published way later after all this all the dust had settled um and the third uh political party started being created we’re talking about that the inner circle of these fraternities said that he they took him out on a boat tied a rock to his leg and the wind gracefully blew
Him off that’s what they said the wind Grace that was their quotes that was their quotes that’s what they were saying they just didn’t want to ad say murder we we pushed him y we killed him yep so uh clearly we think that’s what happened no body found no nothing oh man
Yeah so scary right was looking at it from the Idaho 4 perspective in this topic um was it is is this more to it is there a secret involved here and they’re trying to protect the fraternity are they trying to make sure a fraternity doesn’t become wiped out nationally Poss is that
Possible I I I think anything could be possible really I do I also question why were their secrets so important I don’t know and what’s interesting is shortly after Morgan’s disappearance the expose was published anyways oh it was it was oh it was published anyways and nobody cared like it didn’t
Nobody cared about the expose um well they did I mean it was used as a political tool because this third party had already started so above all for green and the others uh that knew about what had happened the greatest horror was that the murder was
An act of a random mob instead as green would later write in his Memoir these men who were leaders in this plot against Morgan and Miller Miller were men of standing character they were at the time holding some of the most important offices in church and state oh gosh yeah they were
Our sheriffs they were our judges they were our justices our constables our Military Officers of high standing religious leaders and politicians everything had been considered and determined upon the very highest authorities in the fraternity councils weird right hidden behind the scenes pulling the strings were the fraternities and Masons and they were
Wreaking havoc on American democracy and had to be stopped uh apostates like green broke their silence giving public lectures about the dangers of eternities and secret societies and on July 4th 1828 the citizens of Leroy New York published their declaration of independence from fraternal uh Masonic orders H and the anti-masonic
Movement is born and that was all based off of that man’s death that was all based off of his death yes and the total and complete cover up now these fraternities I if you guys remember we’re already in the colleges okay they’re just at this time in the early
1800s there wasn’t a lot of college students in 1870 there was only 60,000 college students nationally and and then from 1870 to 1920 it went from 60,000 to 600,000 that was the big college boom but these fraternities were already around they were already here they were already involved in everything um and
The general Society in public the other Americans democracy saw them as a problem so wait fraternities as in the Freemasons were here but were frat fraternities uh in colleges like Sigma Kai they were a thing yes at that point okay yes okay yes they were the first fraternity College based fraternity was
In the 1700s oh okay yep I didn’t I guess I didn’t quite understand that before okay first fraternity but didn’t you say the anti- fraternity party 1776 December 5th 1776 F Beta Kappa was created at the College of William and Mary that’s what we talked about I just
Didn’t remember the exact date but yes so didn’t you say the the anti fraternal organization ended up becoming just like the fraternal organizations I mean yes they they created groups and there was the no nothing party that uh they they called themselves that because fraternities claimed to have this secret
Knowledge and stuff and they were like you know screw your knowledge we don’t need it you know and we’re dumb and we like it yeah exactly and what are you going to do about it and they almost elected a president that’s crazy that’s super cool it was super super close it
Was a three-party race think about think about the rebelling against the elite by saying I don’t know anything yeah like I’m dumb I mean it it works yeah you know how many people that watch us take my confidence and all they’re always saying like I can’t stand him he’s a
Know-it-all but dude I’m the first one to say I don’t know nothing I don’t know nothing yeah but there’s a difference if in a conversation and somebody’s like you’re wrong you got to be able to admit you’re wrong yeah and you do yeah so I I don’t think that’s valid criticism yeah that’s
My point yeah I know it’s not valid yeah I know I was just making the distinction like somebody could say I don’t know anything but then I could turn around and sit here and be like well you’re actually wrong about that and then you can’t admit that you’re wrong but you do
Admit that you’re wrong yeah like cuz some people can’t admit that they’re wrong I’m wrong all the time I when I say I literally don’t know anything I’m I’m meaning that I look at life in a way where I I don’t even think if if there’s like a knowledge book there’s this is
Like all the knowledge how much of all that knowledge do I know I would be blown away if it was like 10% I literally don’t think I know anything and that’s how do I try to approach that stuff so I mean if you don’t know anything then there’s tons of
Room for learning that’s the whole point is I I don’t I think it’s important that people don’t ever feel like they need to prove what they know who cares yeah I know what I know maybe I knew that five years ago and I don’t know it now does that matter no maybe
I’ve never known that does that matter no it doesn’t change who you are as a person it doesn’t change anything no it doesn’t so I thought this was interesting I hope you guys thought this was interesting because here’s the thing okay if we’re comparing and contrasting
Here the Idaho 4 Theory could this be a fraternity in trouble and maybe the fraternity didn’t have anything to do with this crime maybe they did have something to do I have no idea but would they be like we can’t kick you out we don’t want you
Here leave out of the country and you’re never taking part in in in anything fraternity ever again but we also can’t kick you out on paper if a fraternity came out and said yes one of our fraternity members did this not just one but two and two other
People that were Lookouts and we kept it a secret for a year you’re telling me that you don’t think that fraternity would be closed down they’re too far in yeah there’s no coming out H it’s very similar circumstances I just don’t think the right choice is ever
Death no it’s absolutely not you just deal with the accountability you be an adult and you get over it man yeah I mean it’s just scary how easily they were able to manipulate the system to do this like a college system yeah who depends on their income who gives
75% of the money coming in who if all of Greek row packed up and left and and didn’t Supply a college anymore it would go under yeah that kind of power that’s pretty insane I didn’t realize that if you closed the fraternities at a university they would go under for
Sure I want to know like how much in the Idaho 4 situation if one particular fraternity like Sigma Kai was you know removed from that college campus how much money would they lose how much how much is sigai donating how much do they pay well they uh they accept 13 applicants every
Year okay so there’s some maths that need done yeah well 13 113 pieces of evidence three are you focusing on numerology again yeah I think it’s interesting yeah it is I think it’s interesting what if there’s some alumni within the investigative team yeah I they’ve made a a sworn oath I’m pretty
Sure there is they’ve made a sworn oath to protect the fraternity fraternity Above All Else fraternity literally before the law before your own job before your own job before anything and sworn to secrecy and it’s funny how how people on the outside that support the law enforcement so intense
Look at that and think like oh yeah they dude they they’re dumb drunk kids like they don’t take that serious look a commitment is as serious as the person making it makes it yeah so like you cannot be on the outside looking into somebody’s commitment and judge that
Commitment cuz you don’t know what it means and and for someone like me if I make a commitment about something like I I am usually it’s important to me that kind of stuff so I’m one of those people where I will never make a decision just like that
Like I need to think about it let me chew on it let me think of all the different possibilities things that could happen but once I’m like in I’m in that’s it yeah that’s just how I am and I’ll be in no matter what till
Till it’s burning down I mean you can be dumb and drunk and still be very committed to a cause yeah but whoever whoever did this crime wasn’t dumb I mean they could be it could be dumb and they obsessed on it and had the T had the last five years to think of
Every possibility um five years I don’t I don’t know I just think that this crime was done in a way somebody thought about it it was was not a spurn ofth the moment I don’t think so either somebody obsessed on this to make sure that it was
Right I’m telling you one of the key things that I’ve talked about in my past with crime that I’ve done is police never look at a crime scene with the intention of finding the misdirection so how much of this crime is misdirect is it just the sheath is it
Maybe not the sheath is it the fact that they somehow made sure that they wouldn’t call the cops until 8 I I don’t know H yeah I don’t know either it’s there’s so many questions in this case and is it possible the killer did encounter them
And took their phone and said I’m going to be out here if you come out here you’re that’s it so they stayed in their room for 8 hours waiting and listening and thinking I don’t know maybe I think literally anything’s possible and the reason why is cuz we
Have been given no evidence and we only have 113 pieces of physical evidence yep we got DNA that can’t be submitted oh man this case just doesn’t make sense but I’m curious how you guys feel about the story do you see the correlation here um you know is this a
Story that is used in fraternities is this something brotherhoods talk about I don’t know like these guys saved the fraternities like do they look at this and think highly of them oh oh for sure because it’s it’s um they always are honoring which when I was pulling up
Pictures for Sigma Kai um I I saw some things about the men that came before them and saying like Honor on thy name or you know whatever they and there there was a ton of stuff about their founding fathers and like that stuff is important the lineage of these men who
Have been in these fraternities and you know what they’ve done for the fraternities is well well documented and honored and they still tell stories of these men which is what that picture that was on our last 4chan thumbnail was all about it was all about the the new the new generations telling the
Generations of old yep yep but let us know how you think about this what you think about it I found it super interesting yeah it is because uh I I’m not the type of person that I think that these fraternities have some kind of untapped knowledge that nobody else has
You know I really believe in science a lot and I also believe in paranormal type stuff too just because of experiences I’ve had and I just believe that our science hasn’t caught up to that yet that’s I think you can believe in both I do so um you know science is really
Important to me in these situations when we’re talking about this and uh yeah yeah I don’t I don’t even remember where I was going with that but let us know what you think yeah
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