I’m no longer staying sober because of what would happen if I wasn’t I’m not staying sober because I’m afraid I’m staying sober because I love this life and I understand what a pristine mind can do the single greatest achievement that we can realize in this life is to
Realize the Divinity within oursel on the yogic path when we speak about moving from dark to light we’re talking about bringing the stuff of the subconscious up to the light of day into the conscious realm so that it can be seen processed if need be moved through and then released utterly transcended
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Journey so join us for honest candid discussions about spirituality for soul sake for soul sake for soul sake today’s conversation is going to be with an incredible guest someone that I admire so much but funly enough I met him through one of my retreat goers her name’s Louise shout
Out Louise you introduced me to Tommy on the fields of Community Festival Russell BRS Community festival and uh she was like this guy is like incredible but I was like let me see I’ll check him out and then I saw him do some yoga teaching
And I saw him speaking and I was like this guy’s incredible his name is Tommy Rosen and I cannot wait to have this conversation with you thank you so much being I’m so delighted to be here thank you radas thank you it’s an honor and privilege so should we talk about what
Do you want to talk about yes well we’re in an interesting time right now um everybody seems to be under the influence of some form or another and that’s really my work in the world is to help people to get up above those influences could maybe speak a
Little bit about that 100% what influences are we under the influence of very very vast forces seen and unseen we could begin with the influences of our family that’s where it starts it it yes in the material it starts there uh we are under the influence of the food that
We eat the choices that we make in the kitchen definitely we are under the influence of the company that we keep without question we’re under the influence of the things we can’t see the things in our subconscious mind these are our blind spots when when on the yoga path when we speak about
Moving from dark to light we’re talking about bringing the stuff of the subconscious up to the light of day into the conscious realm so that it can be seen processed if need be moved through and then released utterly transcended ultimately we’re under the influence of tremendous societal forces the forces of marketing and
Advertising the forces of everybody else’s opinion before social media we were also under the forces of other people’s opinions but we weren’t exposed to so many opinions so quickly that’s a very serious consideration for where we are today in this world there there’s no question I was actually having a
Conversation about this today with somebody who works at Google uhuh and they were championing uh the Advent of AI artificial intelligence and they were saying you should be excited about Ai and I said well I’m excited about aspects of it I know that it will help a
Lot with medical science we will be able to actually cure disease that we haven’t been able to thus far we will be able to prevent some human Suffering The Shadow side of it really is about the shadow side of human nature and how human beings could
Put something like that to use so again and it’s the same with social media it’s the same with all these wonderful um advances that we’re making but we’re under the influence of these tremendous ideas that are everywhere now all the time the amount of information we’re taking in
It’s it’s overwhelming for everybody who engages and so this is a really an interesting time of wow isn’t it great what we’ve been able to create and wow it’s so painful what we’ve been able to create all at once we’re under the influence of the drugs Andor alcohol that we
Take whether those are prescribed and absolutely necessary or not we’re under the influence of of everything that we consume through our eyes all of the media that we consume the shows that we take in on Netflix the stories that we expose ourselves to are really we’re exposing oursel to somebody else’s
Consciousness and so we have to be very careful about that we want to choose very carefully because to be under the influence of these forces we are unable ultimately to connect with our true self there’s too much of a cacophony one of the most brilliant things about Kon is its One
Voice the collective there with one Mantra directed to build a relationship between the finite and the infinite it cuts through all that chatter right then and there boom boom and it’s super powerful and super necessary I say to people when when I teach Mantra I’m a New York City kid I
Grew up in a family uh very secular non-religious non-spiritual interes unbelievably non religious non-spiritual family we never chanted anything it was probably it was something we would have laughed at around the table when I was a child um and so I say the fact that I chant
Mantra ought to tell you something right there must be something here for somebody like me who didn’t grow up with it but was so drawn to it and then found the effect of it to be uh uh you could count on it it’s something you could always count
On and I tell people that I work with in recovery from addiction specifically that you know I I’ll be in a workshop and I’ll say you know please raise your hand if you have never chanted Mantra and you know in my workshops maybe 50% of the hands go up something like that maybe
Maybe more and I said oh you haven’t been listening you’ve been chanting mantras your whole life oh yeah yeah the mantras sound like I’m not good enough I don’t belong here there must be something wrong with me it will never work out I’m not lovable if they only knew what I was
Thinking or what I was capable of or what I did they could never love me and so we’ve been chanting these mantras our whole life and think of the effect of that that inner dialogue and my teacher told me very specifically Tommy don’t complete a single negative sentence in your head about
Yourself not one don’t do it that’s a mtro right there then that’s a beautiful point so that’s a that’s a practice that’s a daily practice and the idea is to become aware and um and to recognize our divine nature nature that’s what we’re doing the single greatest achievement
That we can realize in this life is to realize the Divinity within oursel and as our teacher pundit rajmani tigon from the Himalayan Institute says it’s the single greatest tragedy to die without realizing it now for some reason that means something to me I heard that and I was deeply inspired by
It the single greatest achievement to realize the Divinity within me okay I’m interested in the single greatest achievement I believe this statement as a Sutra as a truth I believe this man and his unbelievable dedication to the path of of yoga and of raising Consciousness and of becoming
Awakened and so that now has become the thing which for somebody who works in the field of addiction and Recovery is significant because now I’m no longer staying sober because of what would happen if I wasn’t I’m not staying sober because I’m afraid I’m staying sober because I am
Hungry to experience because I love this life and I understand what a pristine mind can do and I wouldn’t want to do anything to jeopardize that yeah yeah my spiritual teacher he says it like I this one thing just popped into my mind he says uh
Don’t be afraid to go all the way with your spiritual practices and your letting go of material attachments don’t be afraid to go all the way because the truth anyway lies Beyond it the idea is that it’s not that I love the sadas as much as I love that I’m seeing the
Awakening happen in nonobvious ways you know I’m excited for the Awakening that is coming in non-obvious ways yes sometimes the most Divine experiences are happening in the most unlikely situations oh yeah you know and that’s why I love the S because it gives me the opportunity to see those small
Things come out at different moments so one of the musical bands that I’ve listened to my whole life is called the grateful Dad I’ve never heard him have you ever heard of them no okay well you’re a young man yet oh yeah okay so I’m part of a very strange American
Phenomenon known as dead heads who follow the Grateful Dead for many years it’s an American band okay okay yes grateful that just sounds like a horror movie grateful The Grateful Dead yes it’s it’s it’s actually rodadas it’s the story of what you’re doing okay yeah we’re all we’re all preparing ultimately
On the yoga path we’re preparing for death right would you like to be ungrateful in your death or grateful I’d like to be grateful yes the Grateful Dead there it is I’m a does that make me a dead head now you are now a dead head officially yes yes without having heard
A single note that’s good tell me the Greatful Dead yeah so I mean there’s just a Beautiful lyric and there’s so many Beautiful lyrics they’re kind of sutras for me but one of them is once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it
Right and for me that’s been the story of of the unfolding of my journey uh on the path of yoga the path of recovery what I call the path of Discovery really so yeah I mean it’s just these influences if you are under the influence for example
Of your parents let’s just start there because everybody is until you’re not until you can fully individuate and be your own self and live your own life according to your own heart and soul hopefully but many many people get trapped in that relationship and so let’s say your father had an idea for
What your life should be like and you follow that idea which really wasn’t your idea for how you wanted to live well we can go to the texts of the Bhagavad Gita and we can look at all the the spiritual text that tell us it would be better to
Pursue your own Dharma imperfect imperfectly than somebody else’s perfectly yeah which will only lead to suffering and we’ve seen so many cases of this in society and so that’s an influence for example that you would have to get above in order to live your truth to be
In authenticity to be in Integrity with yourself and if you’re not not that’s where all disconnection that’s where all Avidia that’s where all misperception that’s where all addiction comes from all of it it begins right there I’m out of sync with myself I don’t know who I
Am I don’t know what I am I don’t know how to find out I’m not even sure I want to all I know is I’m living in reactivity to life now so I’m reacting to the external or I’m reacting to internal discomfort by reaching into the external for a solution to that internal
Challenge so I’m externally focused now I’m looking to the outside world to solve my problems every billion tries the external Universe for a split second aligns itself to what my ego thinks it wants and for a moment I confuse that with contentment ah everything is aligned the
Way I think I wanted it I got the right job I have the right amount of money in the bank account I had all the influences I have uh the right body I’m in the right body now I lost the weight that I said I would lose I I did the
Thing I said I would do I’m with the people I said I would be with and it’s all external so we’re living outside in and we also know from the texts all the ancient texts so the classical yoga Sutra of patan the first Sutra starts
And now y the the practice of yoga can begin simply meaning have you had enough of looking to the external because if you finally had enough we have something for you it’s called yoga turn your gaze inside look inside for the solution to all the challenges that you’ve been
Facing in your life to the riddle of you say that poem right the paradoxes of our age conquered outer space but not in a space that’s it and uh I mean one of the stories that while you’re speaking you how beautifully speaking there’s one story I used to share at universities I
Used to speak at universities we used to call it the KC sock it was called a Christian conscious Society it’s like in the US what do you call them they’re not societies what do you call them the what are they called clubs clubs Club association yeah Society Association socities not
Fraternities uh in University sometimes and and sometimes Post University yeah so like it was kind of like that but we were spiritual fraternity so to speak and uh I used to tell this in the first person like it was like I lived that story but I’m telling you now it’s not
True story I used to tell it like it was so if you heard this at University there are many of you I told the story to it’s not true but I’ll tell you anyway okay so I’ll tell you I’ll tell you as if I was telling to the students because it’s
Fun that way um I was in India once and in India the one thing that’s always always broken or always cuts out is the electricity so I went to a friend’s house wink wink I didn’t actually go to a friend’s house but I went to a friend’s house and the friend obviously
Of all things that could have been broken on that day had the elevator broken the electricity wasn’t working to the elevator and so group of us five strapping Lads started climbing the stairs up the stairs we went and of course this friend of mine lived on the
Top floor the 20th floor so to say so I’m climbing up these stairs with my friends and up we go up we go halfway we reach and then my friend says we’ve got some really good ice cream upstairs come on we’re going to make it all right come
On let’s go make it up to the top 18th 19th 20th floor we reach the top and he goes guys I think I left the keys downstairs and I swear I’m a peaceful guy I was going to punch the crap out of him you know like that was yeah I mean
It’s not a true story but the idea is that the analogy goes us this we have climbed the ladder material success we have climbed the ladder of reaching what we consider to be uh importance influence all the while being influenced all the while being clouded by so many
Influences have we forgotten the key downstairs yes have we forgotten the key downstairs yeah you know yeah it’s it’s fair to say we’ve forgotten the key I would say I don’t mean to be uh negative because there’s so much extraordinary progress being made course of course
Uh as I look out at the world though I would say generally yes we forgot the keys and now there’s this massive movement to collect them yeah and to put them to good use and to begin to work in the arena where we can actually make progress and that’s the inner world as
The great Yogi uh Swami Rama said we have to become a citizen of Two Worlds the inner and the outer I love that and so we’re working on our citizenship here on the inner world it’s it’s called yoga it’s called meditation it’s called absorption it’s sadna it’s a dedication to
Awakening it is about getting up above on a daily basis up above the influences so that we can really truly live at peace and live in connection to our divine self help others to do the same and then as I like to say and and then
We all fell in love and the world healed would that be wonderful yes we fell in love and the world healed and why not the naysayers will say it will not survive because you’re taking something that’s not of this atmosphere and putting it into a different atmosphere you know like once uh my
Grandfather Guru was asked this question someone stood up in the audience and he asked about divid Swami he said how will this survive it’s like taking a crocodile and putting it in the river rine and bakan Swami replied he said uh you can be God conscious in suit and tie
And when I heard that I sat back on my chair I was like MH it’s possible cuz I was living in suit and Tha at that time I was living and working in the corporate world there a anyway I don’t want to tell you about that life is a
Different life but I didn’t think that I could be spiritual in that context and uh you know what the reality is there’s not really much of an excuse anyone can do it if you just make it a desire and if you just open your eyes to go oh my
God there’s so many influences that influencing me there’s so many things that are clouding my judgment judement do you want the pizza or did you see an advert so tasty you wanted the pizza yes you know and so in the same way uh I said this in another
Podcast but I think it’s apt here Martin Luther King says it so brilliantly he says that those who love peace need to learn how to live and share as effectively and as efficiently as those who love war and sometimes our propaganda as peace lovers is pretty
Crap to be honest yes and so therefore a lot of the infl infuences of the world and I’m not just talking on Instagram I’m talking on the newspapers I’m talking in politics I’m talking at the government level I’m talking about CEO level the influence of of the world are
So good at organizing themselves that all of us just go they’ve got it it’s okay no their influences are good no but I think what we have to do as spiritualist budding spiritualist sharing spiritualist is go no let’s get our stuff together you know yes let’s get the best equipment that money can
Buy absolutely let’s do a rocking pod that you know that challenges the best and make the content such attractive quality in content that people go I think I want to think about what my influences are yes I think I want to overcome them so there’s a time
Crunch in this because is there I think so because well there’s there there’s apparently it feels like there’s a pressure yeah and I think the pressure people feel more pressure now uh for me that the time element of this is that I know that given enough time everyone will awaken
Because to suffer is to suffer and when you’ve suffered enough when you made all the money you wanted to make and when you’ve done all the things you wanted to do and you still feel discontented inside that’s an unbelievably humbling experience yeah and so I know everyone
At the end of time all debts will be paid and everyone will be humbled sure um so but the question is is how how and when will that happen while we are disconnected from the planet Earth disconnected from our bodies disconnected from each other disconnected from the totality of it all
Um so so I feel I do feel that pressure but it it’s it’s really just an urgency to say hey rather than going through the humiliation which for example I went through through drug addiction and all these like this incredible external Focus uh let’s get humble now first we can
Learn through the School of Hard KNX or we can learn through the wisdom of other people yeah that’s what you’re doing here with this podcast let’s learn from the wisdom of other people and a good friend of mine says you know there’s two kinds of people in the world people who
Are humble and people who are about to be OED yeah and I found it to be utterly true and so I know we’re we’re heading to the right place and yes humility is a is a necessary yeah ingredient in the recipe for awakening yeah uh so I I I
Humbly encourage everyone to get humble and uh and to um take on a practice of Awakening and a practice of awareness and it’s just stopping running away slow down cool down calm down and begin to meditate begin to look and ultimately if everyone doesn’t get to that point of humility and Awakening at
Least I tried yes and and it and it’s okay it’s okay and it’s okay anyway uh and that’s one of the pressures actually that I felt a lot like you know sharing and I’m seeing transformation so many people’s lives but then I sometimes think is it
Going to make a big enough then you know when when these big swamis came like prad came in the 70s with a har Krishna movement it left a flipping Dent you know people knew about the Hari Krishna now you ask Harry what you know like
It’s still it’s not and the dent is gone in one sense and I’m thinking I want to do that again I want to try and leave a dent on the planet in such a way that people have an opportunity that are looking for humility that are looking
For awakening they’ve got a place that they can go yes but ultimately if I don’t succeed at least I should succeed right here and so I’ve got one foot in both boats I want to share but at the same time I want to know that at the end
Of this lifetime I want to be gratefully dead yes it’s already done it’s already done I’m A Grateful Dead f I’ve never listened to a d song we’re going to remedy that but I will say this we were we were sitting with Shri Robie Shankar he’s an incredible best wonderful teacher and
This woman asked um you know how do you it was how do you maintain equinity in the face of so much negativity in the face of so much evidence that things aren’t working out without missing a beat he said I live in the conviction that light always
Wins the next person asked a question and said what can we do about the people in the world who are so depressed from what’s going on and he said two things you sing and you dance I love it and that’s what you’re doing is you’re giving people an opportunity to sing and
Dance and it’s the ultimate anti-depressant I think so and it is it is stronger than any drug in my opinion it has no hangover there’s no there’s no hangover to this it is an elevation without any dissent so I I’m just so grateful um for the work you’re doing thank please keep
Going your your style you’re so smooth you’re so smooth I’m trying and it’s so it’s you’re you don’t you’re not trying that’s the whole point you’re not trying at all it’s just like I was sitting with my wife today listening to you saying and I was like this man is so unforced
He’s so it’s so easy he’s so easy and I think at the end of the day that everybody wants that they want ease moving towards that sah that ease of life and so yes the definition for me really is like it’s not that I’m a humble person you know what it is this
Definition of humility I’ve shared it so many times but I’m really trying to live it every day it’s not to think less of yourself is to think about yourself less and what does that really mean it means I think about those who I love more my my Guru
My God and so whenever um I never feel alone you know I always feel like my spiritual teacher sitting right next to me and on the other side is my Lord and so in that way when I don’t have to think it’s all on me I don’t
Feel the pressure on my shoulders um that yes I’m fallible I’m probably going to up here and there you know there’s going to be a moment of course it’s going to be in the newspapers 10 years from now I’m going to be done for some scandalous thing who knows what it
Is but I know that um the two people that I can count on is Guru and God and uh like you have in the notes I’ve saw it for the first time myself in God we trust I also have in God R trust written in my heart and in that way that gives
Me the ability to go and be bold and you know challenge people even the people that are older than me people that are well more experienced than me I have faith I’ve got someone else holding my back mhm and uh yeah that gives me the strength to try to do all the things
That you’re mentioning so in in I I didn’t want to pingpong what you said away but uh I accept it with gratitude but I’m also with with your permission passing it on up onwards and upwards to those that deserve the credit because uh takes a village it means you put it in
The right pocket that’s good I hope so yes yes beautiful what do you think the next 10 years of your work should look like getting people over the influence what is your plan what’s the strategy I’m recognizing that if I were to leave this planet today and what someone decided to put on
My gravestone was for example um he managed to stay sober for 30 plus years that that wouldn’t be what I want on my gravestone actually I would I would want someone to say live to the fullest Bloom of his life because of the decisions that he made because of the
People that he surrounded himself with was able to help countless people to live to the fullest Bloom of their life now that that’s something that is Meaningful to me another thing that would be disturbing to me is that because of the digital reality we live
In I’m I’m not trying to get someone to spend more time online o interesting not at all um now I have a podcast like you do it’s called in the circle I want to jum on in the circle maybe you come on someday if you’re if you’re willing and have the
Time I definitely do and I am willing but but that’s that’s um so we all play in the digital realm I’m trying to use the digital realm to get people to connect with each other outside of the digital realm yeah that’s where it’s at so for the next the next 10 years um
It’s a movement towards Community we’re really two things at recovery 2.0 it’s on the one hand are a global community on the other hand we’re a community that’s training itself into Awakening and supporting each other to do it I wouldn’t want to just create a community I want to create a community
Of people who are dedicated to becoming everything that they can be in this life and I want them to do it in the three-dimensional reality or better put the four or five dimensional reality that we live in here in time and space and not just have a screen between us as
We’re communicating although that that’s important at certain times Come Dance With Us come meet us in person exactly I want to see you exactly I want to meet you yes and and uh you know like I got to meet you at Russell’s event in Wales um and we had a lovely connection there
And and that unfolded to this lovely connection here and now we get to share I didn’t know you guys were married can you believe that I didn’t know you and K were married until I saw you guys together at Buck Fest together yes so like that all these connections coming
Together in one moment yes well 20 plus 20 plus years we’ve been married now W that deserves round it is it is yeah most people who know me back in the day they’re like how did you do it how did you of all people how did you
Any advice what’s the thing that you say what’s the part you conver conversation when people say how did you do it communication comes stay current um I mean my teacher gave me so many gifts on this note he he said to me you know do you want to learn what it is to
Be a world class partner a world- class husband and I I saides and he said well never let your wife fail wow never let her fail never look at her with eyes that would indicate she failed in some way never ever let her feel that way and and it goes of course
The same for her as well with me for her to be a world class partner or wife or whatever the terminology that people are using it doesn’t matter but if you’re in a long-term partnership and it’s a spiritual one which means you’re dedicated to truth um don’t let each
Other fail yeah just that idea like shifts the game forever um and and I knew I knew when I heard that that I had work to do I told my my teacher once I said you know at the very beginning of our relationship I said you know I’m
Married and he said well any monkey can have a wedding he said but you you might need some help with a with a marriage and I said yes I’m going to need help and I opened myself and I said please help me wow please cuz I want to
Be good at this and I want to do this better than the me that I’ve been could ever do this wow and so he about that yeah he helped me a lot um and he said so many things and and the the practice of yoga has helped me so much and and
Kia’s love um has been um you know unbelievably help jump on the camera just so people can see both of you together can you jump on yeah that’s this is a whole another topic but also speak about getting out from under the influences um learning about um a true partnership is it’s not
Celebrated in this Society generally speaking truly not so we have to get away from other people’s ideas about what it’s supposed to look like again and we have to carve our way forward together in a way that’s authentic to us I think so too and um it’s it’s
Interesting because we’re in the public field we’re public figures and uh people so easily can project this idea of the perfect partnership and um we’re always uh wanting to portray ourselves as very real you know there’s ups and downs there’s challenges and um and yet if you’re committed to love
And you’re committed to understanding that it’s always two there’s always two involved and you want to do your own work of self-development then I think that there’s there’s so much possibility for really fruitful evolutionary long-term relationships so here we are we are 23 years in congratulations thank
You I I respect both of you and I love you both so much more now that I’ve met you and been able to speak with both of you and and uh yeah I think there’s I don’t I don’t want to cheapen the conversation by doing uh maybe we I do a
Couple of quick fire questions that’s okay that’s okay I feel like he’s already ready for these CU he heard them in the last episode but what’s something you’re curious about right now in your life tell me I went to one of my teachers a little while ago and I I he said
Um I I wanted to have him help me with a new sodna practice I was asking him for a particular Anna and he said what are you interested in and I said I want to be able to persuade I want the power of persuasion and the way I would use that
Is with people who are stuck in addiction wow I wanted to be able to stand in front of somebody and just through my presence alone Inspire them onto a path of recovery some people have said to me that that happened for them with me and that as you have said is I attribute
That completely to God and Guru and my teachers that’s not something that I would have the power to do but that’s something that I could develop into a vessel that could have that happen through them and so uh that’s something I’m curious about I see people that are hurting thems so
Profoundly in some very grotesque and obvious ways yeah and it’s a it’s an experiment as I had gone through in my life that they’ve gone through over and over again and they’ve proven to themselves beyond a shadow of a doubt this isn’t working and so and I really want to
Stand in front of somebody and just have the power of persuasion and look at them look at their third eye and be like never do this again we’re going to take this to another we’re going to elevate this we’re going to elevate this to another plane now and we’re going to
Step into a a love and an awareness and a presence where loneliness don’t exist doesn’t exist anymore where that aloneness becomes Solitude which is very beautiful we’re no longer fearful but we’ve moved in towards love towards Oneness towards this beautiful connection I want to have that that kind
Of thing so I’m interested in I’m very interested in human transformation super interested in it and um you know we’re in a world now where everybody’s looking for hacks what’s the quickest way what’s the what’s the hack for this and the hack for that and um I’m interested
And at the same time like you know people are like you know I hurt my knee how can I how can I heal that what’s the hack for that and I’m like you know you really want to know it’s Advanced they’re like yeah I really want to know
It’s called rest rest the unsung hero of the health and wellness world is rest and sleep but we don’t we don’t celebrate that in this Society so I I want to I want to be able to to have that level of of of effect and and and
Um and to be able to to continue the work of transformation that I that I that I’m in and I just want to you know be better at that and understand how that can happen at a deeper level every day for people thank you yes let’s go with another one what’s something you’re
Personally working through at the moment yeah one word one sentence one word one sentence one word one word One S personally working through right now um Pride greed lust anger attachment they’ve been written about before plenty of times yeah they showed up in a book called The Bible some of
You might some of you might have heard of it oh yeah that one yeah yeah I’m a human being for that one I’m a human being I’m in Flesh and Blood I’m on the path of Discovery and every day I wake up to do my sod and to get up above
These things so I’m working on them yeah it does too and if you create one L Here We Go drum roll please one law that everyone could or should follow what would it be one law yeah that if you could create one law in the world I’ve heard some crazy ones by the
Way yeah no I’ve got to reel myself for this one I’ve got a this was about to go to a very you know off off color place episod the law is that when you turn 22 specific age yeah right before you go out into the world to do whatever it is
You’re going to do you have to do a personal inventory of your life to that point as seen through the lens of your resentments you have to review your life and all the resentments of your life and you have to work each of them out in
Your 22nd year so that when you’re 23 you’re entering the you’re entering the world clean you have to own your behavior and you have to enter the world clean from that place and if we did that I believe that the world would find peace even if you’re not 22 let’s do it
I’m going to do it yeah well I’ve done it so many times and it it has changed my life 22 I’m 10 years past 22 I’m still going to do it so let’s do it together right absolutely incredible an inventory of life I love that Tommy this
Has been incredible thank you so much it’s been a wonderful conversation really enjoyed being with you and uh yeah you’re quite the orator you really speak so beautifully and I think that you’re living it beautifully so long may it continue and uh please teach me along the way I’m I’m a student of
Yours and a student of many many others that have been on the podcast I’m just trying to learn trying to learn how to make this life one which is both beautiful uh internally externally and beautiful for others also so teach me how to do that sin sincerely we are a
Student of each other and of the same God and probably close to the same good as well thank you thank you so much for being with us see you on the next episode of for soul sake if you love this episode you’ll love my interview with cat methin on how
Life isn’t always symmetrical and beautiful check it out nobody else owns you and your feelings so you get to decide ultimately and obviously we like I said we were talking then about like how you feel but you do get to make that decision yeah you get to choose how even if someone
Says something really horrible to you or you read something horrible or you see something that you compare yourself against you do get to make that choice however hard that is
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