jeranism Saturday Supershow! Pastor Dean Odle vs. Pastor Greg Locke Debate Watch Party! LIVE 12-2-23

The Ignition sequence start 3 2 1 Houston we have a Problem we have a we on the ground you got turnue what you’re here Is It’s n a mirage welcome to the show everybody it is time for a chanism Saturday Extravaganza Saturday Super Show it is live we are starting we’ll be watching the debate here in a little bit between Dean odle who I’m actually rooting for today usually Dean OD not at

The top of my list of good people but um that’s because he’s had some Choice words for me including that I am the uh the Antichrist so and my wife is a foulmouthed heathen and we kind of talked about it and he’s kind of right

So I mean it’s not um you know it’s not entirely false it’s just uh rude but as they say if it’s rude it’s true and that’s the way that goes so welcome to the show should be fun uh certainly not on the side of Mr Lock Greg lock is that

His name is it Greg lock I think so anyway whatever his name is he uh has a tough job today he’s got to defend the heliocentric spinning ball religion uh again with the Bible which doesn’t seem to be possible at all so let’s uh see how everybody’s doing let me make sure

We are good to go here we are good there yes we’re all good how’s the sound fantastic nice to hear it thank you thank you uh hopefully everybody is well let’s look at real quick just to get it out of the way who is is sponsoring Today’s Show well we’ve got JJ’s CBD

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And 9th all times Pacific there on Friday when doors will open founding myself Justin Harvey Allan from space audits Steven Dragon Dr Amanda vulmer and David avocado wolf and then we have the VIP Q&A panel which will include avocado wolf David Weiss Steven Dragon myself Austin and Justin Harvey so all

VIPs will be able to ask whatever questions they want of those people and then on Saturday we’ve got music by DPAC in the morning Dr Dr Andrew coffin will go first Dr Kelly Brogan second ER Luchi will’ll be doing an hour third Mike from stellium 7 be at noon we have lunch and

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More music by dpack for 130 to2 and we’ve got Mike witer from alphabetic he’ll be from 2 to 3 Jay toen media looking forward to that presentation be nice to see Jay here Isabelle Amiga actually it’s Isabelle friend I got to change that I don’t know Amigas long

Story and then we’ve got Austin wit it closing us out and then six to7 we’ve got comedy by Ian Cunningham which should be fun and then we’ve got a little bit of a dinner break and we’ll come back from 7:30 until we shut the house down and that will be for the VIP

After party hangout uh myself and Austin will be there we’ll see if we can get some other people to join us and then all of you guys are welome welcome and we’ll uh also give everybody kind of equal speaking time so you know nobody Hogs the whole VIP show we’ll just be

There and kind of moving people in and out either turning off their mics or something we’ll figure it out but it should be fun and Austin and I look forward to that we’ve had fun the last two Summits doing these VIP after shows uh people seem to have a lot of fun with

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Going to be in a special room where you can ask questions of every speaker and of the VIP panel plus you get better coupons and stuff like that and plus you get to go to the Afterparty so uh and we still are not 100% sure I think it’s

Going to be that VIPs get two raffle tickets for every and one for general admission so if you’re a VIP you’ll get your name put into the Hat twice and if you’re a general admission you’ll get into put in once and then we’ll have the raffle had some great prizes last year

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Far as that goes so that is about it for the busy work and the nonsense that we needed to get to before we get into Today’s Show we’re going to start out by exposing or whatever you want to call it free masonry um and I’ll talk to you about

That Marty was not able to let me actually check if Marty sent me a uh oh what’s going on here oh he scared me Dave Weiss was messaging me I was scared for a second uh you may uh Caleb say something right now and I’ll fix

You uh just I’ll be watching you for the next couple seconds here Caleb wants to be modded let me go over here and let me jump this out pop this out pop out come on pop out chat there we go so if you say something right now or I’ll find you

One or the other and then I’m gonna check if Marty got back to me I don’t know if he did he couldn’t come today because he is they’re building a church or something and it’s like just basically lives in a tent right now I see it thinks um let’s see here behind

Moderator okay and that one oh man what is going on here here hold on this is behind this little clear button I there we go save all right good we got you we got you Tony coris in the house Tony do I have time for the sound effects I don’t know Tony

Coros in the house anybody anybody uh Tony cor is this working today oh my soundboard it’s working when I wanted to goodness gracious quiet down quite dumb let me see if we um have Mar no Marty did not get back to me yet okay so he might send

In like a voice message or something to kind of get his two cents in and we’ll talk about that here shortly but I just wanted to remind you of what show you’re watching do you know what show do you have any idea it is the jism show it’s

My show my opinion again it doesn’t mean that you have to agree with it you in fact do not um and it would be weird if you did agree with everything that I say I would think that you’re a little bit strange and you need to look into that

But um it is my opinion it’s my show if you don’t like it you can go it’s all right I’ll be fine we’ll get by without you believe it or not but if you enjoy the rantings and ravings of a somewhat lunatic it depends on your definition of

That but then you are at the right place I’m the opposite of mainstream I uh if you tell me if the government tells me that uh you know the sky is blue I’m going to start doubting that right away luckily they don’t tell us that but the

Other thing else they tell us is just seems like horse stuff to me they you know I was watching this week have you ever seen the Obama where he fake drinks the water from Flint Michigan it’s so funny it’s so funny I’ll bring that up here in a second just

Because I just can’t believe people just get lied to on such a level that they just never see it NE what is Dave Weiss doing keep messaging me you’re an hour early I know that I’m not an hour early I’m two hours early but I have other

Things to do before we get to the watch party David all right um so anyway so jism show it is the opposite of main stream hopefully you guys enjoy it let’s get it started it starts right about now this this is my take on what you

Thought you knew but don’t know to get to get mind blown know but don’t know this is not mainstream it’s the opposite it’s my opinion I got lots of my my man my time my choice to not believe in people’s lives this is for my grow this is for

Our soul all location in every time zone let the time go it’s time to get your mind blown this is my take on what you thought you knew but don’t know now what you know about the J now what know about theism all right maybe in about 30 minutes we’re going to have Mr Dave Weiss what do you know about the jism show the answer is not enough that’s why we’re here anyway back to the show looks like Dave is going to walk around and

Show people uh and stream live to the show so Dave I’ll will set up um a what’s going on out there I will set up a link to streamyard and then I’ll send you that and you can go live from there and I’ll show you to everybody so that

Sounds like fun trying to figure out the best stream to share I thought that Austin was going to be streaming it um if he’s not then I’ll check out the both sites of Dean OD and Greg lock l o c k e Greg lock all right so let’s get it on

Here I’m gonna say hi to everybody in the chat hello how are you let’s see who’s here let me actually turn on the thumbnail there we go that’s a little better all right let’s see who’s in the chat shall we we shall uh who do we got

Here anybody that we don’t know uh let’s see we got the whole crew here hopefully everybody’s here ready for the debate should be fun huh you guys excited you guys excited and then in a little bit I’m going to be asking you guys for questions to ask Marty Leeds and we’ll

Get into that conversation here in a second um in summer India has 14 hours of daylight Northern America has 16 see the overlap we watch the sun okay bring the truth says Shelly what’s up shell suelli in the house up Sue Mike D is gonna be great uh second best Bob says

Space is real or is it doubt it Chicago artist in the house mome we’ve got repair bear Nathan Roberts in the house Nathan what we’ve got Lowry in the house good luck at your um quiz show what is that middle of December uh Achilles 7 in the house what’s up kiles run Boston

Bear Austin should be streaming says run Boston bear thank you he’s there he’s live at the debate uh I’ll actually show you a video that he sent me in a second mome in the house mome thanks for being a mod and member we appreciate it what’s

Up USD 25674 how are you uh let’s do this who’s streaming it there’s a lot of people streaming it but I’ll catch one of the streams we’ll play here so you guys can chat um RJ says Love My Fake xie it is Bomb I agree John says Hi everybody on the [ __ ]

I’m guessing I don’t know with that this uh thank you for being a member onic case says someone’s here from Transylvania pretty crazy Canadian Divergent up Lads Penelope pit stop I haven’t seen Nathan in Forever me neither James Expedition Bard doy first time here welcome uh we’ve got

They live sunglasses nice when does the show start never never does the show start it’s just going to be me reading the chat for the next 17 hours and how can that happen on a flat Earth it’s impossible you wouldn’t be able to read chat for 17 hours we all know that uh

We’ve got I think Dracula showed up for this one bill Esquire in the house all right well thank you guys for being here let’s get started with the Crux of the issue thank you very much Travy bear Travy Bear all right very nice you uh I

Want to see the globers get humiliated I I think that today is that day I I really don’t understand how I’ve never even understood how you can be a Christian Christian and oops what’s going on okay I’ll set it up around 3 Dave give me about till 3 which is your whatever five

And oh bunch of people no longer on the ball it’s here what’s up no longer on the ball uh RAS a bear no longer on the ball I’m going to make you a mod so you can drop your chat here if you want uh I

Mean your link to the wiki where is AD moderator there we go standard moderator yep again this thing is not there’s a clear button keeps over covering the save there you go I fix I fix it all right there you go I’m the [ __ ] that

Works better right uh where’s s is he in the house been watching his show there he is what’s up brother been watching your show thanks for giving me something to do late at night when I’m out working on the pinball machine always want something to listen to and uh you’ve

Been providing that for me uh THC will be back for the debate that starts at 4 Pacific I believe so we’re looking about an hour and 20 minutes until the debate e is in the house Landry Chamberlain yes most importantly Landry’s here guys everybody guys Landry’s here guys

Everybody in the chat before was like is Landry going to show up or what’s going on uh now your your prayers have been answered uh Mario C says I’m here for the sarcasm and the bad voice impressions I love the show that’s it my voice impressions are pretty much

Perfect I don’t know you could even say anything uh we’ve got kuk who says Earth is as flat as my ex-wife’s a cup chest yeah but let’s give it let’s give credit where credits do at least she was natural okay just I’m just saying not a

Big fan of the fakies which I have renamed either jubs jubes or counter tis those are great where’s where’s the laugh track anybody laugh no see it takes me too long to get I need like an engineer it takes me too long to get to my let’s see laugh and wait crowd

Laughing and go thank you thank Youk thank you very much appreciate thanks thanks thanks oh boy you know I know I’m sorry it’s just ridiculous I know I know all right so this is what we want to get into did I finish everybody in the chat I think so anybody else need to

Say hi Alex candy in the house uh who else we got gu Peterson been here since 2019 welcome thank you we’ve got ftf’s review of the Caleb debate was ridiculous we’ll get into that it uh I didn’t watch it but I’m sure it was I’m sure he claimed Victory and all that fun

Stuff my Boomer dad told me today that he doesn’t believe in evolution well that’s great it’s good for him as it’s got uh no evidence with it we’ve got Boon’s Quest For Truth No fakes exactly we don’t need that uh fakery please keep yourself natural and you’ll be better

For it uh Caleb embarrassed fight the fat sh a few days back it was epic it was indeed epic there’s Eric what’s up Eric tell the truth Supreme truth teller Supreme yes that’s right red Mo in the house thank you Kevin Sam it seems like there’s a lot of people watching chat

Looks packed how many people we got holy [ __ ] 675 what happened I guess everybody’s ready to watch the debate so yeah the debate will be coming up again we’re about an hour and 15 minutes away from that so let’s start with Freemasonry and I’ll tell you the story

Of what happened this week and why I’m being uh hated on and you know all that fun stuff so if you remember maybe it was uh two weeks ago at this point somebody filmed part of a free Masonic initiation I guess is what you would call those right um let me see if

Whoops is this my account hold on let me see if we are what has going on here oh hope but didn’t sign in my old account no we’re good all right um so I’ll bring this up and show you here all right so this was the post come on you

Can get there there we go so this is my post it was basically these guys playing dress up as I call it um going through this skit or whatever they do uh we can listen to a little bit of it give me the secret of a master Mas

I will take your life time place man secrets not to me about time place or the completion of the temple okay so if you want to see what I said obviously it was oh back here this is totally normal grown men in aprons and dresses with Secrets blindfolds rituals most of the

Police are involved a secret handshake and who knows what else also uh those with good eyes will see the homage to their God Lucifer who brought light fuhk uh so and I think somewhere I called them losers now I don’t remember where that is but that’s what they were most

Upset about so now this is my opinion and I’ll go through why I have this opinion about Freemasonry and I got basically [ __ ] on by a group out there that’s uh made up of mostly Masons I guess uh this is the Marty Leeds Gnostic truth or Gnostic Church of Jesus Christ

And jeez my son is just screaming yelling um so Marty lead’s group uh somebody made a comment there like oh Jaren does doesn’t know about Freemasonry why is he even commenting on it somebody else saying you know jiren doesn’t have a clue and then yeah Marty chimed in and said yeah jiren shouldn’t

Mention anything because he’s never looked into it and he doesn’t want to look into it and it kind of went from there okay and I found it very strange that people would ever stand up for Freemasonry for several reasons now I’ve since talked to Marty and said will you

Come on my show and tell everybody why we’re all wrong come on and tell everybody why we’re wrong about the Masons and he says that he will but won’t be after till after Christmas so we have Marty on we’ll let him tell us his reasoning I get most of the

Reasoning I get that those guys over there uh research Freemasonry and they dig into it and so when I make a comment like these guys are losers I can see why it upsets people however I stand behind my statement and I’ll tell you why okay I here’s the things I do know okay

Number one that this world is run by people in a secret society okay now they might be in different ones they might be in this secret society or that one or skull and bones or Book and snake or you name it okay but they are in a secret

Society now there’s so many things wrong with that but one of the things is I don’t even think the Freemasons have secrets if you’re talking about the lower levels okay they they they don’t have any secrets it’s just kind of you know so like is this guy exposing

Anything by showing this well not really I mean just maybe people don’t know this is what goes on in there that’s kind of the point of showing it but it’s not like there’s some Secret in this this is like an ancient thing that they do a

Little acting thing and I get it Marty Leeds feels like this has been very important to his discoveries of truths and he thinks that um Freemasonry is good now here’s the problem that I have with it is that if he’s not a 33rd degree Mason or above then he wouldn’t

Know so here’s the other thing the Freemasons take an oath let’s bring up their oath okay they take an oath that they must will withhold Secrets at the expense of or if they don’t then they will have their throats cut they’ll have their tongue cut out now you’re going to have Masons that

Tell you oh that’s symbolic we don’t actually do that okay whatever why are you taking that oath then can you imagine taking an oath where you say I solemnly swear to do this this and this and then be like just I’m just joking around oh it’s just kind of for funing

Games no it’s not you made an oath you know what an oath is do you understand what an oath is okay so if you’re making that oath that you’re going to withhold secrets and then I call Freemasons losers and then you all come in at me

And say there is no there is no secrets you’re an idiot you don’t know about Freemasonry there is no secrets it’s like hold on a second but aren’t the members taking Oaths to not tell the secrets therefore when you come at me as a Mason and say oh there is no secrets

Well yeah I know because you’re a Mason you have been you’ve been you’ve swor an or oath to not tell me that so it and the thing that baffles me is everybody in this group over there all seems to be just shocked that people have a problem with Freemasonry oh they’ve just never

Looked into it there you go there’s your homage to I think this is an Absol solute sign that they homage see now again you’re not going to have the Freemasons tell you that they’re going to have another story for it oh no it’s not actually that this it’s this whatever here’s the

Problem number one thing if you’re ever going to take an oath then you better know what the secret is first that you’re agreeing to not tell do you understand that when they tell them do you solemnly swear to not give away the secret that’s before they know said

Secrets okay so let’s say that at the top the highest levels at 33rd Dee or above that they do kind of flip over and say oh we actually the grand architect is actually Satan it’s actually Lucifer it’s whatever they want to say so nobody in the lower levels which is everybody

In that Marty group nobody would know so I don’t think it’s fair for them to come like oh you haven’t looked into it you don’t understand Freemasonry I understand all I need to understand which is I’ve looked into it I don’t see really that many secrets you know you

Can go back and talk about the people who used to be Masons and they used to build churches and Cathedrals and then it kind of got adopted I get it I get it and there’s ancient mysteries in there and Solomon and the king and H a Biff

And oh we’re actually teaching people to be good people and be moral well if you’re teaching people to be moral one of the things should be just not swear Oaths I mean to me uh but here’s the thing the elite are in secret societies and they decide that the shape or the

Shape they do that too they decide the the direction of the world okay and they think they know better than us they think that they are higher spiritually or something and so they keep truth away from the people at the bottom now that’s a problem and yet now we’re I’m being

Told by members of the Freemasons that oh but they don’t it’s a different kind of secret society here and if you go to um Freemasonry on even Wikipedia I think it’s Wikipedia that says it uh Freemasonry Wikipedia Wiki thank you I believe it says in here is a uh oops Freemason

Uh refers to the Fraternal organization that traced their Origins to the local guilds and stonemasons that from the end of the 14th century regulated the qualifications of stone masons and their interaction with authorities and clients modern formon Le broadly consists of two main recognition groups regular which

Insisted a volume of scripture be open in a working Lodge that every member profess belief in a Supreme Being that no women are admitted that the discussion of religion and politics do not play take place within uh I want to see where does it say secret

Uh let’s see the 25 so we got yeah they’ve got a secret handshake and the passwords now to me this is very much eight-year-old boy stuff when I was an eight-year-old kid I used to we used to have a little Club no girls allowed in our club and we had secret handshakes

And we you know I don’t think that that is an adult thing sorry when I find a truth or when I’m researching I find something I go and tell everybody I don’t say like oh let me tell my little group come here little group let’s have

A little put on aprons and walk around in circles and these are ancient truths though that we’re talking about and this is the only way to part them on people I don’t believe in that I don’t believe in that I don’t think we need that um so including passwords signs and grips uh

We’ve got now somewhere here I thought it said it’s not a secret society but it’s a society with Secrets now maybe it wasn’t in this Wikipedia I don’t remember exactly where I saw that but that is what a secret society is um here you go the idea of masonic Brotherhood

Probably descends from a 16th Central legal definition of brother as one who has taken an oath of mutual support of another accordingly Masons swear at each degree to keep the contents of that degree secret and to support and protect their Brethren unless they have broken

The law well it says only I think murder and and treason uh in most lodges the oath or obligation is taken on a volume of the Sacred law whichever book of divine revelation is appropriate to the religious beliefs of the individual brother usually the Bible in Progressive Continental Freemasonry books other than

Scripture are permissible okay let me see if we just where did I see anyway I just read it to you that’s what it is it say there basically a society with Secrets not a secret society but we know that there’s we’ve seen George Bush and

And John KY and these guys are all part of a secret study so if you ask them what are they going to say oh yeah there’s no secret we don’t really have secret yeah okay well the fact that you’re pretending that you do is a problem now here’s the other thing back

When the Freemason started was when there was religious persecution where if you didn’t believe in exactly what the Catholics told you to that you could be persecuted so the group of people who didn’t want to believe in Catholicism but still wanted to believe in a Creator went underground and created the

Freemasons okay so if you believe that which I tend to somewhat agree with then you understand that we don’t need that anymore okay you are not persecuted for not being a Christian here to where you need to go underground and have your little side religion with your little

Degrees and your little moving people up the you know I don’t think you need it that’s just me now I’ve also there’s so many lies about Freemasonry and who’s a Freemason I mean if I asked you guys right now now was George Washington a Freemason you’re going to get answers

From all over the place now again there’s paintings of him but there’s a letter from him oh let see what this says does this say it is so uh I just saw his name Davies notes that prominent members included montue voler Sir Robert Walpole Wolf Gang Mozart uh Wolf Gang

Von goth Benjamin Franklin and George Washington uh now I believe so it’s basically saying that he is one but you’ll also get people who say he wasn’t uh let’s see if we look up a George Washington George Washington Mason I believe in a letter that I mean look at all these paintings

So somebody’s painting them as this oh he’s a great worshipable Master here he is here he’s got his little apron here so he looks like yes right and then if we go uh see if we’ve got anywhere that says he became a Master Mason the following year throughout his very

Public life Washington remained active with the fraternity now I thought that there’s a letter read was George Washington a oops let’s try this one I believe that they are not even totally in agreement now America President George Washington is probably the most well-known Freemason he was initiated into Freemasonry in

Fredericksburg uh where’s that letter about masonry he actually says that he’s only been in a law twice let me see if we can find it here if I find let me just search here George Washington uh letter Mason I’ll see if I can find it George Washington to William Russell in a

Letter which Washington papers is stated the book is a full account of the Society of Freemasons let me see if this is it wason’s letter uh apology to you my receipt blah blah blah okay so this one here he’s talking about yeah this is the letter so let’s just read it from here

So we have some sort of context this same causes which have prevented my acknowledging the receipt of your letter have prevented my reading of the book hither to namely the multiplicity of matters which pressed upon me before and the debilitated state in which I was left after a severe fever had been

Removed oh it’s probably Co should have got the jab and which allows me to add little more now than thanks for your kind wishes and favorable sentiments except to correct an error you have run into of my presiding over the English lodges in this country the fact is I

Preside over none nor have I been in more than one I’m sorry nor have I been in one more than once or twice within the last 30 years I believe not withstanding that none of the lodges in this country are contaminated with the principles ascribed to the Society of

The Illuminati with respect and love and all that stuff so again he basically is there I mean if that’s his own statement basically saying that he doesn’t preside over any Freemason Lodge nor have I been in one more than once or twice within the last 30 years so isn’t even a

Lie that he was a Freemason so again you have all these secrets you got secrecy going you got lies being told uh I think that they have little say on the level okay on the I feel like they’re the ones hiding uh the shape of the earth I

Believe that uh there’s symbols hidden in even this disc compass and square I don’t know if anybody knows what this degree is open to does anybody know is that a 60 Dee angle I’m not really sure if it’s 60 degrees um not really positive about that but if it is because

I do think like the sun rising in December 21st versus the sun rising on June 21st is quite a big difference of uh but I think it’s like 30 exactly that 60 degree swing so are they encoding that now again you know to each their own whether or not they want to believe

In the George Washington story but what I want Marty to do is come on and explain um because the people in that group are pretty ridiculous uh basically they want everyone to say Freemasonry is good or something oh yeah it’s real great to have these lodges where men go

And they tell secrets and then they help each other out but not others okay I’ll show you that in a second but imagine if you have police officers who have taken an oath to help each other out and two police officers come upon some I don’t know kid he’s doing something and they

Think he’s got a gun and they shoot him and then he doesn’t have a gun and then they’re like oh [ __ ] let’s say that he had a gun he you know whatever they have to make up well the other cop has to back him he’s already sworn an oath to

Help his Masonic brother so do you think he’s going to help his brother cop or that innocent person that they just shot that’s a problem okay when he gets into politics there’s a problem if you’ve got some guys working together and moving people up now if you’re a Freemason

Should you get hired before somebody else who’s got better qualifications than you no but according to these guys yes and then you wonder why why Masons move up the ladder why they become larger and larger in these circles or in these uh in these corporations so I I

Believe all that is a problem let’s look up uh freemasonic oath now is this the oath that’s taken I don’t know want know why because it’s secret oh secret so if people are like oh Jaren you got the wrong how would I know don’t be Secrets then don’t be

Secretive just be honest with people and you wouldn’t have this problem if I get something wrong about your stupid secret Club it’s because it’s a secret Club okay let’s go here Masonic oath see if we’ve got any uh no that’s not the oath there uh oh I did I did see this page

Before and it is kind of interesting it does list these things that these are the reasons why people have had a problem with the oath number one it is an oath which again According to some religions like Catholicism I believe uh is not okay you’re not allowed to take

Oaths it is administered before the secrets are communicated I mentioned that earlier it is accompanied by certain superstitious ceremonies that is true it is attended by a penalty we’ve seen that it is considered by Freemasons as Paramount to the obligations of the laws of the land okay let’s get out of

Here let’s go find uh if we can see where that oath is let’s see if this is the one I’ve actually got it in the page here is this it well I want the whole oath this guy’s kind of commenting on it let me see I

Have it saved over here let me get over here into my this thing oh no no no don’t change that page okay hello everybody dve by the way dive in the house rockin in the house I didn’t go at Rumble because Rumble needs to fix their

System I’m not going to enter in a stream key every time Rumble change it like every other site and let the same stream key be used each time thank you very much appreciate that all right let’s get this up which one is this this is the oh that’s that

Book uh that’s not bad does that have a um I was trying to see if this is a so this is a book from oh I should show you rather than just this is a book from Reverend chase gfny the independent this is from June 18th

1868 uh lots of stuff in here I mean if you want to read something about you know issues with them uh this is a great place to start um but respect to the oath I observe first yes let me find the actions over here find it over what it’s in my saved

Things here but I can’t find it uh there was one page that really is this it okay maybe this one okay so this is and now again this is from the page where did this come from I didn’t see let’s go back it’s from the New York Inquirer again somebody might

Say no this isn’t the oath at all J it’s made up okay well I’ve heard some of the Oaths taken before and they are close to this so let’s just read this one and let’s see if there’s any issues with this all right so I and I’m not going to

Say my name uh fake person fake person fake person because I don’t believe in taking Oaths like this of my own free will and Accord in the presence of almighty God and worship law directed to him and dedicated to the holy St John do hereby and here on most solemnly and

Sincerely promise and swear that I will hail ever conceal never revealed blah blah blah Secrets points Arts whatever of the master Mason’s degree I also don’t want to read it word for word uh to any person whoever accept that it be true or a lawful brother in this degree

Or in regularly constituted Lodge of the Masons nor unto him or them until the strict trial due examination lawful information blah I shall have found him or them as lawfully entitled to the same as I am myself I further more promise and swear that I will stand to abide by

Laws rules regulations of the master Mason’s degree Lodge here after become a member and as far as shall come to my knowledge and that I will maintain and ever support the Constitution laws and etics of the Grand Lodge under which the same shall be Holden further that I will

Acknowledge and Obey all due signs and summons sent to me from a masterbation Lodge or given to me by a brother of the degree if within the length of my cable toe further that I will always Aid okay now this is where it gets a little bit

Dicey for me further that I will always Aid and assist all poor distressed and worthy Master Masons their widows and orphans knowing them as such as far as the Necessities may require and my ability permit without material injury to myself and family further that I will keep a worthy brother Master Mason

Secrets inable can now remember if you are swearing to this oath but before you’ve ever actually entered into that level or into that um degree ‘s a problem because now what it’s saying is that you will keep the secrets so let’s say that they fake space we know the

Astronauts most of them are Freemason so let’s say that that is one of the things that they do so these people who are telling me right now there’s no secrets you’re well then they become a Master Mason or whatever degree they become and let’s say they get told those secrets

Well now they’ve sworn that they will keep the secrets of Masons so again with the threat we’ll keep going further that I will keep a worthy brother Mason Master Mason Secrets invol when communicated to and received to me as such murder and treason accepted further

That I will not Aid nor be present at the initiation passing or raising of a woman an old man in his dotage a young man in his nonage an atheist a Madman or fool knowing them to be such so now you’re not going to be present at the

Raising or the you know the passing so somebody’s funeral you can’t go to somebody’s funeral that wasn’t a Mason that’s how I read this I don’t know if that’s right um further that I will not sit in a lodge of clandestin made Masons nor Converse on a subject of

Masonry with a clandestine made Mason nor one who has expelled or suspended from a lodge under the sentence knowing that him or her to be such further I will not cheat wrong or defraud a master Mason’s Lodge nor a brother of this degree knowingly nor supplant him any of

His laudable undertakings but will give him due and timely notice that he may ward off danger now notice that this doesn’t say anything about people that aren’t Masons okay so this is not a moral code oh it’s just a bunch of people trying to be moral this is not

Moral saying I will help these guys but not these guys oh that guy’s in distress but he’s a he’s a Freemason I mean he’s a atheist so I’m not going to help him sorry that’s not morality in my book you again where are you getting this from

Probably the god of the Bible who has favorites and things like that maybe you pick that up you’re like oh well you know he’s got favor I got favors and I can take care of these people not these people I don’t see the world that way

And I think that when we do that when we segregate off and we start having these kind of groups then you should expect the world to crumble you should not expect this to make the world better you have people saying that they have secrets and then they’re not they’re

Going to only help their own kind that it’s ridiculous um let’s see let’s keep going further that I will not knowingly strike a brother Mason or otherwise do him personal violence and anger except in the necessity of Defense of my family or property further I will not have legal

So again this does not say anything about striking or Tak taking from or defrauding a nonmon okay further that I will have sorry further that I will not have illegal carnal intercourse with a master Mason’s wife his mother what if she’s bomb though who just say his mother sister or daughter knowing them

To be such nor suffer the same to be done by others if it is in my power to prevent again this is talking about only with a master Mason’s wife so if you’re not a Mason better keep her close you never know further that I will not give

The grand Masonic word in any other manner or form than that which it shall be receive it and then in a low breath further that I will not give the grand hailing sign of distress except in the case of the most imminent danger in a just and lawful Lodge or for the benefit

Of instruction and if I ever should see it given or hear the words accompaning it by a worthy brother in distress again they’ve got some secret word or sign that they’re in distress and then everybody who’s a Mason goes and helps them but you or me or my family or my

Son maybe they don’t get helped maybe not not he doesn’t know the word he doesn’t know the hand signal he doesn’t know the handshake I will fly to his relief if there is a greater probability of saving his life than losing my own all of this I most solemly swear

Sincerely promise with a firm and steady resolution to perform the same without any hesitation myself under no less penalty than having my body severed in two my bowels taken from th and burn to ashes and the ashes scattered before the Four Winds of Heaven that no more

Remembrance might be had of so vile and a wicked as wretch as I would be should I ever knowingly violate this my mation obligation so help me God and to keep meast and do performance of the same okay that’s one possible uh oath that they could be taking now I’ve seen other

Ones the one that says that they will at the risk of having their throats cut uh let me see if we can find that one let me see fic oath throats cut and I’m interested in having Marty on I want Marty to tell us why what I’m saying

Here is incorrect why we should accept free or secret societies why it’s okay for men to get together and agree to help each other but not others okay cuz I don’t I don’t get that and I don’t think that when I call these people losers again I’m not talking about

Anybody looking into Freemasonry anybody who’s doing any research anybody’s they’re not losers it’s the people that are in the temples dressed up with aprons doing little acts to to get some oh it’s moral truth and we’re going to figure out that to me is a loser I don’t

Know what to tell you I mean again I thought about do I want to take that back like no that’s I’m just honest with people I know people don’t like that too much but that’s how I feel and again it’s a lot different than somebody who comes along there was somebody who came

Into that group and said something just horeshit too uh total troll comes in says something about me that’s just horeshit and basically they’re you they I’m like thinking of myself look it so when I say that people are losers that’s my opinion people watching my show they

Can take it or leave it they don’t have to have the same opinion as me they can say oh I don’t think they’re losers Jaren I think they’re cool guys who go there and do the plays and and dress up in robes that’s cool with me whatever

You want to think but my opinion is that they’re losers now somebody comes into that chat and makes an accusation against me that’s just ludicrous that’s a lie it’s not an opinion there’s a difference people still fail to realize the difference between opinion and outright lies um see if we can find here

Oh so similar Mason Oaths binding myself under no less penalty than to have my throat cut across my tongue torn out by the roots now you’re going to have Freemasons you’re going to have Marty probably come here and tell us this is symbolic okay I don’t know anybody

Taking symbolic Oaths what do you mean it’s symbol how are we supposed to know that if you tell somebody if you tell this secret I’m G to cut your head off and then you’re like oh I guess it be somebody making a note to themselves so

If I tell this secret then you can cut my head off but then be like oh but I it’s it’s actually just symbolic well then do we need to use those words as part of an oath to me no um what is this codex Maga let’s see what this is

Uh so this is just 14 Binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut across oath of Freemasonry Entered Apprentice degree uh but of all things my brethren swear not okay so this is from the Bible but Above All Things my brethren swear

Not neither by Heaven neither by the Earth neither by any other oath James 512 let’s see if that’s actually what it says in the uh Bible let see if that shows here paste go uh James 5:12 in context where’s the uh I like Bible Hub if I can find it there we

Go what it say 12 okay yeah so be patient therefore Brothers until the coming of the Lord see how the farmer waits for his precious fruits establish your hearts for coming the Lord’s hand do not Grumble against one another brothers so that you may not be judged

Behold the judges standing at the door as an example of suffering and patience Brothers take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord behold we consider the those blessed Who Remain steadfast you have heard the steadfastness of job and you have seen the purpose of the

Lord how the Lord is compassionate and merciful but above all my brothers do not swear either by heaven or by the Earth or by any other oath but let your eyes be yes and your I’m sorry yeah but your but let your yes be yes and your no

Be no so that you may not fall under condemnation uh if anyone is among you suffering let him pray is anyone cheerful let him sing praise is anyone among you sick let him call for the elders uh doesn’t say here unless they are atheists in which case leave them

Alone let them pass away doesn’t say that uh I just want to check the Greek real quick on here and where is the whoops where’s oh you have to do it like that sorry I just want to see let’s go to 12 like to look at the original I’ve

Been doing this a little bit more does kind of give you a little bit more insight some of the stuff especially old testament old testament in Hebrew just shows you that they completely butchered the English version is unusable at this point in my opinion again you want to

Use the Bible and call it Divine that’s fine but do recognize that they’re not the same words as it was originally in there uh before all things however Brothers of me not swear neither by Heaven nor by the Earth nor any other oath so it looks like it does use the

Word oath be however of you to so that under judgment you might have fall okay so anyway that’s a that for us now let’s go back to here um in every ritual degree of and in all the most important ceremonial rituals and initiations of elite orders the candidate is required

To take an oath and is warned of the Hideous and grotesque penalty that awaits him if he ever dares to reveal so again to me if you’re running the world the way that you could do that is by having these little outfits out there where basically from this group of men

You can choose the ones that you want to move into the actual secrets of Freemasonry you’ve got all the people at the bottom that go around and yell at me and want me kicked out of groups because jiren doesn’t research he doesn’t know Freemasonry well no but I know know it’s

A secret society so if you mean do I know the exact uh reasonings behind ham abff no no I don’t know that and if you’re saying well you have to research that before you call people losers no I don’t no I don’t because I don’t care what truth they’re doing in there the

Way that they’re doing it to me is very loser is okay just the way it goes sorry if they don’t want me to call them loser don’t loser things um for example in the very first degree of Freemasonry the candidate declares binding myself under no less Penal and having my throat cut

Across my tongue torn out by its roots and my body buried in the rough Sands of the sea at low water mark where the tide es and flows twice in 24 hours should I ever knowingly violate this Entered Apprentice obligation second degree it says binding myself under no less

Penalty than having my breast torn open my heart plucked out and placed on the highest Pinnacle of the temple there to be devoured by the vultures of the air should I ever knowingly violate the fellowcraft obligation third degree says binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my body severed in

Two my bow taken from and burned to ashes that’s the one we just read I guess the ashes scattered among the Four Winds of heaven we read that one that’s not all in the fourth degree Mark Master of the York right the candidate performs a ritual which symbolizes having his ear

Smitten off if he reveals the order secrets and for the fifth degree past Master the hapless candidate agrees to the following binding myself under no less penalty than in addition to my former penalties to have my tongue split from tip to root that I might thereafter be unable to pronounce the word the

Sixth degree most excellent master of the York right continues with the horrific penalty finding myself under no less penalty than to have my breast torn open and my heart and vitals vitals taken from th and exposed to rot on the dung Hill okay so that’s not even getting into

The Hermetic principles to get into the uh idea of baffet to I mean there’s so many things the 33rd degree how we know 33 is used everywhere there is in my opinion absolutely nothing wrong with anybody who has a problem with freem I think that you should so I don’t

Have a problem with anybody and if anybody ever said well I have a problem with free I say but have you researched it and they’re like no not really I oh well then you can’t make that assumption no you can based off the idea of what they’re portraying themselves to be to

Have these secret societies to have these to have them move up and they have high places in corporations to find out that basically all of the police in other countries I don’t know and I think this country as well a lot of them are masons okay so you have this that’s a

Problem we cannot have police officers who have sworn an oath to protect their fellow Masons and not others if you can’t see this I don’t know what to tell you so I do want Marty to come on and Marty and I went back and forth we had a

Few and uh I get it his position is jiren’s not allowed to say these things and call people losers because he has never researched as much as I have as far as Freemasonry goes and I don’t think I need to I don’t think that it’s required to call somebody a loser you

Have to research everything that they do in a secret society because number one how do I even know what I uncover is true there’s secrets and who am I going to get them from Marty Marty’s taking an oath who else is taking an oath in that

Group so how can I be judged for calling people losers when they are hiding from me and if they say oh we’re not hiding anything from you yeah well you’ve taken an oath to hide it from me so I don’t trust you because you took an oath do

You understand that this is not difficult don’t take Oaths that I know that you took and then tell me there’s no we don’t have any secrets Jaren this is really rude of you to call us losers we just are really moral guys who who don’t help atheists but we help only our

Brothers we’re so moral look at the great lessons that we’re learning from Herff and these guys look at the great lessons that we’re learning how to help only brother Masons but not others I have a I have a problem with that and again Marty said things like like when I

Said I have a problem with them dressing up he’s like well do you go to movies yeah I go to a movie that’s not the same these guys are going into a lodge dressing up playing out little Parts like over and over again like each initiate and there’s people watching I

Think it’s weird going in circles walking in circles and humming again if that’s you’re like oh well there’s great truth in there well then why do you need to call yourselves a secret society it’s a year 2023 just drop that now in my opinion why do they

Do that because they want more members they want a bigger selection to choose from to move them up the ladder and then also they people pay dues so it it actually does them well to call it a secret society to say that they have secrets so that more men want

To get involved I have a problem with that and I can call the people who want the truth so they got into a little Club where they go and do a little apron wearing and things I call those people losers okay now if Marty comes on and

Says that he goes to these events and he does these reenactments then yeah I’ll probably say I think it’s very loser of you Marty to do that now I don’t think Marty goes so I didn’t understand why he had such a problem with what I said if

He doesn’t go to these things why not well it’s probably because he’s doesn’t see them as necessary so if I see people doing things that I also don’t think is necessary and I call them losers you might at least understand where I’m coming from I felt like everybody in

That group nobody had a clue where I’m coming from like I don’t understand the truth movement why does everybody have problems with free mason in the truth movement they’re not doing research they’re not real truthers yeah they are they are and what they’ve looked into tells them that there’s a secret society

That runs this [ __ ] world and then you have a secret society so it shouldn’t be a [ __ ] shock it should go without saying now if you want to tell me that there’s little secrets in there that are not known or oh we gotta get in touch with Dave here let me

Call him sorry let me get Dave up here okay Dave maybe they’ll stop let me set up uh streamyard two minutes okay we’ll be right with you guys anyway we can get into that further but I do want Marty here I don’t want to take a one-sided

Opinion you guys realize my opinion I I left Marty’s group I don’t want to be there anymore because they basically said if and the weird thing was like if jaren’s going to badmouth freeas in this group I didn’t badmouth freem in the I badmouth them on X on Twitter and then a

Bunch of people making comments about it and tagging me in that group and then I went and saw the tags and responded so it wasn’t like I went into Mar group like you guys are losers because I don’t know if any of them are even going to

Lodges how would I know that I’m watching the people here that we saw oh I don’t even know if I saw that open oh I don’t anyway I’m watching those people doing weird stuff and uh let’s get Dave on uh see here streamyard and he did see it okay

Good all right Dave will’ll be with you shortly uh Dave uh let’s go this one me get in here real quick oh sorry you guys don’t need to look at this right now let’s go here and let’s go here and let’s go here start virtual camera okay let’s see if we can get

Da uh yes okay oh Jesus oh my goodness I always do that that’s not right sorry [Laughter] D oh God I can’t believe I did that right now somebody made a tiny url.com with my I put tiny don’t don’t want to even tell you to go there anyway I put

Tiny.com my channel name and that’s not the correct one uh somebody made that as a joke and now it’s stuck forever and I just sent it to Dave and he probably thinks what’s wrong with me look at that one I don’t know who did that whoever

Did it you’re jerk uh try this one instead Dave let’s see if he comes on and we’ll bring him on the Ed I believe he’ll come on in a second we’ll see how they’re doing and then we’ll find out who’s going to be streaming and we’ll

Bring up the stream and uh you guys have to tell me I guess we’ll ask it in a second oh that’s another thing I wanted to do is get everybody’s questions for Marty or comments about Freemasonry as I don’t think I’m what which one is that too first link or second first link

Or second I don’t know which one he clicked maybe they actually finally took the other one down wouldn’t that be awesome second link what did I not spell it right copy maybe I didn’t do right let me see oh that one okay now we fix it I just sent him the

Wrong link where I putc at the end of it which is not part of the link uh oh you guys want to see something scary real quick while we bring day one oh my text message is typing what I’m saying all right da will come on here in

A second but I want to show you this just I I’ve got a pretty big fear of the ocean myself let’s see here and go over here I saw this video like oh my goodness that’s so scary so scary where you at browser here I still thing is still

Typing so this guy can I rewind this no I’m going I’m going to the stairs this guy’s in the ocean get the steps we’ll watch it after I hear Dave show up David all right whoops I’m gonna flip this around I’m not gonna be able to

Hear anything you’re saying but I’m G to show you what’s going on here okay please I don’t know how to flip this thing what What circus are you at well I can see me that’s not so great there’s a there’s a should be where is the flip is there a flip yeah

Um let me try to remember go to settings go to settings I think at the bottom what is going on here and then in the settings it should say flip camera I’m live with jarn but I can’t flip the camera around run Boston bear onard that’s some great music you guys

Got back there feels so worshipable working no yeah change there you go he’s got it what would you do without run Boston bear that’s the question Dave can you tell them to stop singing for 15 minutes we go Austin Austin what up Austin me out when uh when you’re ready if the Music

Stops I’ll be able to hear you I got to speak up the music is horrendous tell them to shut up for 15 minutes here say something can we get 15 minutes with no music no he doesn’t let’s see who’s there looks pretty Packed is that Dean Dave were you just there with those guys and then you went back to grab the phone D that girl the whole Flat Earth section over here it looks like yeah what are those shirts what everybody’s wearing that and I have and I am determined to know nothing among us but him

And him crucify oh my goodness Lord we just want you you’re the reason that we come you’re the reason that we show up this is awesome guys I mean this is good news I mean when you got this many people ready to listen to this topic I mean look what we’ve

Done for all the globers you guys haven’t done anything in eight years well even with you blocking us at every possible moment and getting us shut down and getting us banned and uh censored look what we’ve done look what we’re doing so you keep believing in your

Space fantasy and we’ll try and expose it despite you being in our way all right we are look there’s you on your screen filming youram okay we’re go back in time I think if this happens yeah you’re gonna be behind about 10 15 seconds Ben what’s going to look we got

Taboo conspiracy you’re on jaren’s stream Ben what’s up how are you look Ben’s here Ben nice to see you what’s up guy how’s it going there is no the holy would you come into this place that you God we are to you the god of Miracles and do Great and Mighty

Things in this place tonight that Dave that’s Greg how’s it going than you for the blood of the l oh but the blood of the L the L of for the foundation of the world oh God we thank you for his blood our high priest that is seated at your right

Hand making intercession for the Saints oh God we thank you for the high if you see Dave can you hear me come come and bring Salvation Lord would you bring Salvation to this place tonight God God if there was just one walked here tonight they the holy of is the Lord of

Host God there’s a lot of flat earthers here I so we can’t take a he can’t take a score from the audience to figure out if he owes 30,000 Dave go outside for a second look at this fine quality sweatshirt turn around turn around look at that available on Fl.com I’m G to step outside so I can hear you guys for a second thank Lord Lord oh I would not be in that oh God we can breathe oh boy oh boy I can breathe Dave do me a favor before the before can you hear me I don’t know if I can hear you let me try and do this and see if you can he

Hear me now oh now I hear you okay good so Dave how was that it’s great hey um do me a favor tell Dean Odell that I’m giving him a one day pass I’m I’m a fan of his today so just I will I will tell him

That tell him right now on the air but it’s so loud up there you won’t be able to hear right otherwise he’s gonna actually lose this debate if you don’t tell him that I’m on his side today so I’ll tell want me to tell him right now

On the air yeah I don’t want to I don’t want him worried I don’t want him worried that I’m out here hating on he’s not worried he seems very confident and I’m well this will add the extra 10% that he needs to be overly confident I’m with

You people are flowing in lots and lots wow that’s packed so this is Greg Lock’s Church yeah it’s crazy got the giant cross and uh it’s uh it’s filling up what city is that in Dave where you at Nashville or it’s a Juliet which is in Nashville

Okay um well how many people you think does that church sit do they say 3,000 inside there yeah what it’s a lot of people yeah that’s crazy I would I was thinking maybe a thousand no you know what when I when I looked at our Meetup last night I was like there’s probably

50 people in here and I counted it was 175 I was like wait a minute it it adds up fast see little you want me to walk around one more time or is that you had enough the music was a little loud and a little little little what do you want me

To do put my hand over the microphone I don’t what you want to do you can go back in um nobody out there that we know we want to say hi to or anything oh let’s see who’s walking in you know let’s see I’m trying to square this up a

Little better for people do you know who’s gonna be streaming or do I just get it off lock site know I I uh I just linked it to their website with that said it was coming on and I don’t know where they’re streaming it I know he

Does it on his church his saw I saw Facebook page yeah and I saw Dean oo actually had a if you find a really good stream link okay let me see if I find it text it to me and I’ll I’ll add it to the app so other people can find it

Because Wht it gave me a link that went to De Dean odle’s site where that happened down here yeah but c o just linking back to their side I think okay yeah but he’ll give me I can look at this link here so let me see so this is

Where the debate’s happening doors open live stream where it will be live streamed Pastor Greg lock is committed to live stream uh Global Pastor Greg lock Facebook uh global vision Bible Church Facebook oh wait you are look you’re on J we got FL Earth Brothers here where’s your brother brother here didn’t ran

Right there you go it’s actually flatter brother then flatter brother okay let me see if we got anything here scroll down what’s up guys all right a little guy there for the debate awesome yeah we’re good wow that’s a nice ride huh we’re about a half hour away guys are you

Ready I’m uh I flew from New York yeah say say hi to jism you’re on you’re on jism show what’s up how you doing what’s up what’s up how’s it going who’s this just people people that are come here to to say hello right wait what is

The name of this I just saw the name of the church and now it’s not okay that’s right the way what hi live stream the way YouTube channel at the way 40 okay that’s like a small YouTube channel but they probably have a good camera position let me see I’m

Gonna go there right now and here we have Matt long where’s Matt right now Matt when you wantan I wantan to I want a battle Matt at tennis for a million bucks half a million one-on oneing all right oh yeah I was trying to yeah there you go I don’t know the

Streamyard doesn’t have an easy flip you have go into like two menus did Matt bring his 15 kids or no you bring how many kids did you bring zero what zero kids your poor your poor wife I know why though because didn’t she she just got

Back from a trip right where you had all the kids by yourself so you’re like I’m getting the hell out of here you’re watching the kids by yourself now all right yeah we got a great feed all right am I going back in or we done see you

Darren see you we can go uh I’ve got a great feed there’s a great feed on this channel so I’m gonna bring this up for everybody whenever you’re ready Dave I can go we got a feed now you want me to send you the link say send the link to

My text I’m G to jump off and I’ll see you later can I send it to telegram it’s just easier yeah go ahead send to telegram thanks bye all right bye okay David Weiss everybody David Weiss uh shill extraordinaire let’s see here paste there you go Dave all right let’s bring

Up this for everybody I’m gonna get rid of this one and we’re gonna move over with this one let’s make sure the sound is good no sin became sin for us that we wor be in Here okay good it’s getting a little triggered there it’s like my brother-in-law’s Church they’re like Billboards when you get there it’s like worship on Red Bull only $4.95 at the at the Espresso Bar what sure that’s what God wants anyway so we’re ready this is the feed here I’ll

Show you real quick cuz I know I was about to and then I got off of it I know this has nothing to do with anything but just to close this out this was uh this guy who went to get I guess they dropped a fishing pole in there so he went jump

To thece what to the swimming there what is it get to the Step this is the scariest thing I’ve ever seen in my life Oh my god oh [ __ ] it’s like a movie this part watch him go It Gets behind this piece of wood right here like oh God what am I doing and watch this [ __ ] shark around shark like I’m going to get you look at that I think Jaws wrecked me for life

Jaws completely destroy me although I was afraid of uh get up those stairs I think Kujo you would think Kujo would wreck me from dogs which it did for a little while but uh yeah sharks I just am not not a fan of the ocean it’s

Too big too much action going on there all right let’s bring this up now we’re gonna pull this back over YouTube this one so I got to ask you guys I’m G ask the chat right now which way do you prefer we do this either do you want to

Just watch it straight As is without any commentary do you want me to pause it when I see the need do you want you tell me do you want to just watch it straight on and we’ll discuss it after um so let me see put a one in the

Chat number one if you want it to be just the debate okay a one means just the debate a two me means commentary critique analysis as we go which means we’re going to actually finish the debate later than everybody else uh but I can do it either way number one just a

Debate number two analysis and Etc let me check the chat see who’s there who’s doing well who’s going up so I gotta wait for it to feed through this big old list give me a second give me a second let’s see do we have any

Oops oh we have a bunch of super chats let’s read read these real quick we’ve got Christie lamri thank you very much for joining the jism Club very cool of you we’ve got J do 2626 I’m a Freemason but I am all the way Flat Earth but if I

Was to see some devil worship I’ll be leaving ASAP it’s not really what you think again the the issue becomes if the secrets are for the higher levels you wouldn’t know them yet so to say it’s not really what I think no it’s exactly

What I think what I think is that you as a lower level wouldn’t be a privy to any secrets so it’s exactly what I think uh let’s celebrate their first Super on a live stream thank you very much J dot Matthew deorio de Gregorio de Gregorio thank you truth incoming keep your head

Up we’ve got Martin Haley thank you for being a member for three months awesome of you and we’ve got Wes Wes thank you for joining the very cool jiren ISM club and is that it that’s it for now all right let’s go back to the main

Chat we are supposed to start at two so we are looking about 25 minutes out uh you could pull it oh yeah good call let’s pull okay let’s pull let’s pull sorry stop stop that’s a better idea that’s a better idea let’s do a poll I

Forgot that we can do that start a poll what’s the question asked uh how do you want to do this watch party this watch party question mark either uh watch real time oops watch in real time no commentary no pausing okay or oops oh boy too many

Letters okay there and second will be uh pause critique comment Etc All Right Here Comes Your poll everybody please vote for one of those all right uh one plus two is six yeah I don’t know it depends 33 if you don’t care I don’t I should added that one but I didn’t uh

Parti y there one okay yeah no more no more numbers I’m not even going to look at I’m sorry sorry I didn’t think about using the poll it’s easier so yeah go ahead and vote in the poll you’ll each get one vote that way and we will do whatever the results turn

Up here in the next 10 minutes or so you should see the poll on there and um yeah so I’m going to leave the Freemasonry thing right there uh I may my point clear of why I have a problem with it why I think people dressing up and doing little skits is loserville

Um and that’s just again some people might think that doing live streams from your house is is a loserville okay well you know what am I going to do uh if that’s what people think then so be it let’s see here how many people are watching this right here we’ve got uh oh

849 on the debate there JIS Rico tinfoil hat is there at the debate says there’s a fully armed security detail all over the place good you guys can just watch the Raw Feed and leave us to listen to the commentary jiren you explain Freemasons perfectly thank you very much

Tombs and temples hopefully people understand that’s my problem with it it’s not even big deal Jaren change the poll to commentary on the Fly you can talk while we listen wait change oh okay me yeah well that’s fine I can make commentary while it’s live if is that

What you’re saying uh how do you see the poll after it minimizes I have to you could just click it again right um let me see here looks like so far it’s pretty overwhelmingly watching real time um you’re number one in the live stream thank you cat lady forever l g

How many people do we have is there a lot I gotta go check I don’t know 1084 wow it’s like a debate oh it is a debate that’s right cool this gonna be awesome it’s gonna be fun I think it’s better that way I think we should just watch in

Live and if I’ve got a comment I’ll just make it but for the most part if this debate’s still going you it’ll be like we’re there live I’m not going to comment over people so we don’t miss anything or so that we miss something uh let’s see here if we’ve got

Anything else that looks like no it looks like that’s going to be the way it shapes up now it’s even getting worse okay that’s pretty good I think that 289 votes thank you guys for voting it’s like a high 68% of Let’s watch in real time and

Uh well now I’m going to ask one more thing too so I’m going to close that one down and then like somebody said maybe want me silent I’ll ask that question right now oops what happened to the poll anyway if you guys saw it was uh 69% or

So so we’ll ask one more question um do you want me muted or comment when I feel appropriate when did Biggy Smalls come back I thought that he was dead I don’t know uh see stay muted you suck or comment when appropriate appropriate but

No pause okay we got it we got one more here it comes start pull there we go answer that one for me and we will be good to go Achilles in the house Daryl Davis in the house what’s up Daryl this is probably better with a that’s what I’m

Saying want try with audio let’s check real quick who was worthy I said there was the lamb who was worthy to open the scroll scroll Toal this is very triggering for me this is very very triggering for me very uh what up Allan infame knowing comment in chat Jaren what oh just comment there okay keep it muted we can do that PO doesn’t show up for me what do you mean it’s there isn’t

It uh yeah people are voting 180 should be at the top of the chat I don’t know how to do it the other way sorry uh okay we got it it looks good thank you good good votes there so I’ll just comment and keep the mic open if

Case we have any comments but I’m not going to talk over people I want to hear this debate I I can’t imagine oops sorry you gotta get back live with here to do that um I don’t know how you can argue the shape of the Earth from a

Bible standpoint unless you’re a flat earther so I you know I’ve always been baffled at what do Christians who are globers believe like the entire if they believe in science so they believe that there’s you know Stars 25 trillion miles away at the minimum and um you know

We’re moving right now 1.2 million miles per hour if they believe that I just wonder how they reconcile that with the Bible which says that the Earth does not move and that it stands firm on its foundations and that U you name all the verses I mean it’s the book says that

It’s like a pressed Wax Seal do you guys know what a pressed Wax Seal looks like all right thank you I’m going to end that poll looks like 80% to 20% 255 votes thank you very much we have our setup so we’ll just wait till this

Begins um what does it say it’s not the shape that they can’t handle it’s the LIE they won’t believe uh yeah good point space audits in the house what up Allan looking forward to your presentation this coming weekend is there a link to the live event yeah if

You want the link I’ll put it in the chat here it is now in the chat on YouTube and then I’ll also put it at t.me jism links in telegram under links go to t. mej links and control there we go all right that is in there should be good there CJ says

Comment all you want we are here to hear you make fun of crazies Rob eing says I’ve been waiting for this let’s see who is more prepared I think I don’t even know how you could be prepared I don’t know how how great going to do this one

I don’t understand it that’s why I’m interested to see uh Serge n is there a link to live oh I just what did I not put in the chat I don’t see my own chat I don’t see my own that’s weird let me put it in

Here again did it not go through are my chat on showing oh there it goes I don’t know if I did the other one or not uh Jaren Globe Christians are still globers indoctrinated and scared I and others are trying to get them to realize how it

Only verifies the Bible but they are scared of letting go of their ball yeah I get it too I mean um it’s like that wook you know it’s like that security blanket it’s the one thing that never changes in your life your your parents die your grandparents are dead your you

Know your friends change your girlfriends change your boyfriends change your house changes your school changes your teacher changes your car changes your clothes change the only thing that doesn’t change the almighty flying ball through the vacuum space never changes it’s it’s not even impeded by anything it just flies through space

Ladies and gentlemen think real quick for me just imagine this right now we’re told that we’re moving 1.2 million miles hour and you’re an idiot if you don’t believe it and you’re smart if you do I mean this got to be a joke it’s got to

Be a joke that they’re playing to see how far can they get people to believe things that are just so far outside of reality that you really have to just give men everything and just like here you go what tell me what’s going on tell

Me what am I tell me all about me tell me about my world tell me everything about what I believe and what I shouldn’t believe because I trust you guys I’ve never had men lie to me ever uh never and been very honest all of them anyway I thought thought the debate

Started at 6 p.m. it does 6 p.m. central is 4M Pacific which is in 15 minutes so let’s get the time zones down would we uh let’s see here why are you hated in telegram uh I don’t know you mean in that group because I said Freemasons are

Losers and I there’s a lot of people who don’t want to hear that they think Freemasons are cool and learned moral men so hey we we’ll talk to Marty I like Marty Marty is one of the best I think that we had Marty at our first summit um

I like Marty’s work I like Marty’s church I’ve attended two or three of his little sermons and uh I like Marty but um I would think that if I called Freemasons losers and he saidj why are you saying that and I said because they do this secret society stuff and they

You know that he would at least get it but he acted like he didn’t get it like I don’t he thinks all the truthers in the truther Community are crazy for thinking Freemasonry is bad because he thinks it’s good it’s just a bunch of guys that are moral and want to learn

The truth of the world so again if that’s the case then we should not care about The Cremation of care ceremony there in San Francisco who cares it’s just a bunch of men who want to be moral and they get together and they know better than us so they decide the

World’s fate and they screw each other in the but holes I mean it’s not even that big of a deal it’s just kind of uh it’s kind of what they do and uh unless you’ve learned about it unless you know all the details about The Cremation of

Care and why they worship The Owl and everything then you can’t call them losers they’re not losers because you just haven’t looked into the creation of care you don’t know what they’re doing it for there’s a greater purpose behind it so that makes no sense to me none

Whatsoever uh let me real quick hear this if we’re NOP never mind didn’t want to hear that I’m uh see who’s still here iron horse in the house I believe the Stars falling reference is a flat Earth Awakening where instead of light years away they’re just 70 miles up in the

Firmament you know there’s a good video about the craters on Earth being from St fallen stars if you think about it the craters always look like the thing hit the earth directly uh maybe the Stars fell in the past um who knows who knows have you guys heard the whole I’ve just

Been looking to it a little bit because I was like I didn’t even know people believe this do you know there’s some people who believe that Jesus came back and already ruled for a thousand years and that we are the time period after where Satan will be loosed for a short

Time and so we’re part of the second death or something like we died before we can’t I don’t know I just uh I didn’t know people actually believe that and then I’ve been researching it recently and there’s a lot of people who do they think that Jesus already came back

Rained for a thousand years this is the Thousand Years that they hid according to famco and many that think the dark agees never really happened and that then you would have things answered like where the pyramids came from and why we were able to build large things it was

Just a different existence and now we’re back to being set back a little bit anyway I just never really heard much about that um our drugs our drums Pagan everything is Pagan yes everything is Pagan Freemasons are gay you can’t say that I want I want to see your history

Of research on the Freemasons unless you’ve researched it completely can’t make that you can’t have an opinion opinions are only allowed of those who have researched it thoroughly I don’t know how you would come to a different conclusion oh actually they’re not losers for dressing up their they’re

Doing an ancient craft passed down by our forefathers something like that uh hopefully Dave tells de OD that I’m okay with him for today because otherwise I think he’s going to struggle he needs to know that he’s got jiren’s blessing that he’s got the antichrist’s V blessing for

Today um but no actually Dean OD has done good work I have disagreement on him a few things obviously and uh I don’t think he predicted 911 but otherwise I’ve seen him do good things he seems like a good guy um apparently murder Reen action rituals and sodomy leads to

Truth craters are where the water came up from below great that’s a good thing too I think that that’s exactly what you would see the token black guy CJ is great let’s all bow our heads oh sorry got caught up here what’s your take on

The debate who do you think will win I think it’s a no-brainer I think that uh I think this would be the easiest debate I think I could debate this I think the Bible was clearly written at a time when people thought that the Earth was flat they used their surroundings to

Decide and uh some people also believe it’s divine in which case you would also say it was flat and again which would be the weirdest thing is if the Bible in any way said that the Earth was a sphere or that it sat in space now it does say

In the Bible that God hangs the Earth on nothing but again to then believe that by nothing he means the vacuum of space gets into a little bit dicey area for me for me I believe that the Earth hangs on nothing and the fact that it doesn’t

Exist anywhere it’s God’s place for us to exist so there isn’t underneath us and above us and what’s over there on the side 50 million miles that doesn’t exist all that exists is the earth that’s my opinion um let me see we go all non-denominational people need to

Stop this type of bar and party music I know it’s a little bit out there isn’t it my brother-in-law’s church is like this man it’s just oh just the worst Christian rock I’ve ever heard the B is clearly Flat Earth Stephanie McGuire nailed it uh it’s flat

Earth 101 in the Bible what up Casey how’s it going everybody we got Caleb in the house Caleb who uh has caused a flustering fight the fat shirt seems to be spiraling a little bit uh Greg’s Church type reminds me of the Todd Bentley I mean I don’t hang it

Wait that mean it don’t hang on gravity yes I’m hyped but as well but we still be aware it’s still in a way game right Kevin we got to make sure pitching comes out throws good pitches don’t walk people never walk the lead offit or that

Kind of thing uh what exactly is going on in the background does this video matter it is them singing you want to hear it again here we go ready does usually drive me Crazy sorry I just can’t do it just not for me again teach if you want to listen to that I put the link in t.me journalism links or if you scroll up in the chat you can probably find it and you can go listen to the lovely sounds

Of these girls right you can tell a woman worship Satan by her Adams Apple I think Greg lock knows the truth he’s done great thing promoting that would be interesting daza good good call I don’t know uh you like what if he throws it and just gives him the

$30,000 um cringe the music is trash all right at least I’m not the only one glad you glad I’m with my homies stop it my ears are bleeding okay thank you glad I’m not the only one than goodness um love how all Christians celebrate a pagan holiday 12 days of

Seus you know my son is learning words and everything and so we have these flash cards and the other day going to the flash the new flash cards and under X is xmus I’m like what are you give me a break what thaten this come on we

Gotta have more words to start with X besides exmas uh music makes me want to go back to the globe I was thinking about the same thing was thinking about it uh thank God you made it stop you guys are pretty funny I go I gota give you credit

Where credits to pretty funny uh let’s listen to Biggy Smalls those Biggie Biggie tearing it up biggy I don’t know about that Biggie is tearing it up biggy biggy biggy can’t you see do know’s about to make a [ __ ] fool of me oh s all right it’s enough it’s enough come on it’s enough enough of you biggy biggy it’s enough enough all right thank you very much awesome that was awesome

Okay let’s all right we don’t want to listen to anymore let’s go back to the chat see what’s going on and there we go and there we go all right who else is here now what is this concert thing anyway I don’t know Sarah it’s the beginning of

Church and you should be actually appraising y’all right now um let’s see here yeah boy I’m not making any comments thanks I’m gonna have to turn it off biggie balls yes how is it the in the phobe if I disagree with something when it’s obvious you are on the phone of what I’m

Saying H don’t think I understood that sometimes your science hypnotizes me that’s good we should don’t give me ideas of a new all now I’m writing that down that would be a great um the one I was thinking about the other day as I I heard uh that girl you know Chason

Chason dulo and he’s I’m that flight that you get on I was thinking what if we started with like I’m that flight that you get on it’s called The Challenger and then we just go from there and uh you know talk about all the uh twins of all the great astronauts

That showed up around 1986 for some reason um seven grueling minutes left yes I know flat never left sacred knowledge in the house by the way we have a sacred knowledge debate coming up uh very very soon I’m going to actually check and make sure I have the date

Right on this I don’t want to screw up and see make sure we have this correct I don’t know if people know that it’s been set it is going to happen uh where is it here is De is it what do we have we’ve got 126 yeah so this coming Wednesday this

Coming Wednesday at 3m. Pacific we’ve got the great matchup of Karen B against sacred knowledge in the melted buildings meltology all mountains are bricks or all bricks are mountains one or the other um this is yeah that is uh Wednesday we also got 1219 Tuesday Adam green against Johnny

Cuchi in the Jews versus Jesuits debate we have an opening on 1212 I think we don’t have anybody signed up for that yet and also 125 but we probably won’t have one on 125 since we’re doing it on 126 um all right let’s see who’s going on

Over here showing okay we got that Biggy Smalls is almost done and um get this chat up there f up world in the house what up Ryan Smith in the house hope he Nails it so curious how this is going to go we’ve got Kryptonian thank you very much for the Super Chat

Would love to hang with you and Dave for chat on my channel Dave and yourself have gotten me to rethink everything Kryptonian go to flatter dave.com and book us for a interview I was just on an interview with Dave uh yesterday was it yesterday no Thursday morning so yeah

Yeah you can just sign up and pick a date and time and we’ll be there isn’t drinking blood a satanic thing but Christians drink Jesus’s uh very good point good point uh Greg’s going to walk up on stage drop the mic and say gravity [ __ ] oh great don’t do it can they play

Ain’t Nothing But a puppet show by CMG flat will win I think they already won just for simple fact of having the debate there will be weirdo crazies but got to say props haven’t seen women wearing actual clothes in a very long time I hit the thumbs down but

Engagement is engagement is it not that’s okay D I don’t mind I don’t care as long as you’re here and you are a decent person you can disagree with me uh Play Eminem jiren’s cover is a classic which one the one that I sing or the one that Eminem

Sings there’s two of them uh two live je I didn’t I didn’t see any comments do you guys like my name for fake tits either counter tits or jubes jubes I think it’s hilarious running with that one I’m make a shirt check out my jubes even though it

Doesn’t really make sense if I wore it but you know uh debate starting no not yet we’re we’re live what do you mean no Biggy Smalls is still in the opening act CMG should do a halftime show I agree he should uh hit the like button

Thank you very much for that Caleb wow look at Caleb promoting the channel promoting the the jism show what a good guy what a good guy uh what I don’t understand is do you know now ftfe is demanding a debate on his channel because he says why I went into hostile

Territory and did the debate now you have to and like think about what that guy does every debate he’s ever had has been on his channel so every single flat earther that’s ever gone and debated him has been in hostile territory he does one on my channel and thinks that he now

Now Caleb needs to go over there that makes a lot of sense Jaren your game show video on Fe was absolutely hilarious please do more of that all right thank you you mean the uh $25,000 Pyramid I do have plans to do more of that I actually have a couple episodes

That have funny setups that I might be able to use um get your jubes out Caleb is the [ __ ] he’s doing great work doing great work has a good memory you know remembers these things uh pulls them when he needs them uh yeah I mean I think he did

Perfect I think other than again we talk about later but other than at one point he was doing this with his hand like go on hurry up give and I get it I get why you do that but that’s probably the only thing I would say not to do because it’s

Not going to win you any fans like everybody who’s already a flat earther might think it’s funny and uh doesn’t have a problem with it but I just don’t think something like that’s going to win somebody over who’s on the other side they see that and it’s like an excuse

Like oh this guy’s not even listening to him this guy doesn’t even care you know so that’s my only uh critique other than that he you know basically wiped the floor um what a classy Church dude um is that church already Flat Earth no oh it’s about to be I’ll get

You uh your name has fight in it your channel icon is a knuckle Buckle Caleb is up and coming awesome he is he’s great so is Austin and Dave speaking I they oh Ron Boston bear showed me a little get together they had you can watch out real quick where did he send

It where’s run Boston run Boston there he is uh thank you very much R Boston so this is what he so this is from a Meetup that they had earlier today thank you Mario C very kind of you I’m gonna check it out I’m I’m GNA check it out live no just a

Video thank you very much $5 from the seven of clubs Club you made that very difficult for me thank you much though uh first super on a live stream thank you very much thank you very kindly ftfe was typing for answers oh yeah that was

I had to call that out he wasn’t typing for answers I think he had a whole team of people in the Discord that were uh because there’s too many things that happened that I thought were impossible otherwise like Caleb showed that just a clip of that satirical article at the beginning and

Somehow by the end of it ftfe showed the document like so somebody found it for him during the debate my my assumption would be and then uh when because he didn’t know something he would look over at that screen and then start to read an answer and you could just tell when

Somebody doesn’t know the answer they’re giving they’re just reading it so it’s kind of obvious uh to me at least it’s just seven Club okay thank you get uh Regina gilby says yes what it does tend to talk fast a little bit that was way better Jaren you are the shiznits thank

You Elden Bean Holly Mills hoping my Christian brothers and sisters will be waking up yeah he definitely had people telling him stuff let’s see where we’re at still in music all right it was so obvious it was pretty obvious um yeah that’s the when I when I became

Too obvious I just had to say something because if I kind of had a feeling you can actually watch me I had a feeling a couple times that maybe that was going on but it wasn’t I couldn’t make that accusation without uh having some validity but then he said

Something about oh they just told me in the Discord this and this and then that said oh if they just told you in the Discord then you have the Discord open which means anybody could be talking to you and giving you answers so Caleb actually beat a six on-one handicap

Match uh which is impressive usually don’t win those uh Boston ball hater 10 bucks thank you very much very kind to you um let’s see he is constantly doing that he relies on his followers to help the narrative how will a winner be determined lock is so definitive he’s

Going to win I guess they’re going to oh oh here we go let’s get started sorry and we honor you for your presence you can be seated all over the house I going to give you just a couple of kind of some schematics and schedule and ground

Rules a little bit if you will uh for tonight’s uh discussion and Lively debate it’s going to be super exciting uh I know obviously that uh not just some of our church folk are here but a lot of other churches church folk are here and then some non-church folk are

Here as well and that’s okay I’m just glad that everybody is in the house tonight amen I I’m honored that you’re here uh we have people outside that aren’t happy to be here not sure why they showed up but they’re here nonetheless and uh I promise every will

Be uh well protected and respected tonight in this uh discussion and in this debate so I want to say just a word before I bring up my friend and I do mean my friend uh many of you don’t know uh anything about the context of our church I know you’re you’re finding

Bathrooms and we’re pretty high-tech redneck around here we we’ve been in in tent church for 4 years and so a lot of people aren’t used to that as it gets a little cooler we’ll crank on the heaters and we’ll get things uh to a comfortable level the audio not loud enough yeah

I’ll make it louder let me just say this uh not everybody’s here for a a flat spherical Earth debate right some people are here maybe maybe you’re searching you know maybe your mind’s already made up or for some of you maybe you’re here for the wrong reason let me just say

This if you’re here for the wrong reason would you please let everyone else enjoy what’s going to happen tonight in the house we would that very very much let me know how the sound is as Christians and and I have to talk from a Christian perspective because I’m a Christian and

I’m a pastor and and I know not everybody in the room is a Christian nor am I forcing that upon you we’ll both preach the gospel tonight we’re gospel preachers we’re not Heretics we believe that Jesus is not a way but the one and

Only way to the kingdom of God we all we believe that in this room okay now there are some things that we are Worlds Apart on Worlds Apart things that we’re a Worlds Apart on there is no doubt and and we’ll discuss those things but

Listen to me very close we have a lot of live stream cameras going of our platforms platforms Pan’s platform and so there’s a lot going on there’s a lot of working parts tonight right we got security we got all of that we don’t want to have to quiet anybody down okay

We don’t want to have to you know drag anybody out and so let’s just all be uh friends and family listen the worst thing about this culture one of really the top three worst things about this culture is we think that disagreement is automatic discrimination that’s true we can disagree and be okay

About some things right at the end of the day God’s right right go God’s right I’m not right he’s not right you’re not right they’re not right it’s not us and them and so listen very very closely uh I’m going to talk and and our people

Know I cry as much as I preach sometimes so it’s a weird context to cry in but but let me let me just share something with you from my heart that I think’s important and we’re going to get started and we’re really going to have a good

Time tonight might get Lively might get a little dicey but it’s going to be be fun right it’s going to be fun we’re going to let the word of God do its work and and we’re coming tonight from a strictly Christian Perspective but listen to me as much as in this room

There are great levels and varying degrees of disagreement understand that at the end of the day we want to leave being friends being Christians being somewhat unified as we can we will as Believers attack perhaps ideas and ideologies but we’re not going to tolerate attacking people and attacking individuals okay

He’s not here to attack me and I’m not here to attack him now both of us have very demonstrative personalities and so both of us will have to harness ourself a little bit and and that’s okay and that’s just part of who we are that’s why God made us and perhaps that’s the

Reason the god of the universe put us up here on this platform and maybe not some others because we we know when we can really mash the gas and and as the young people say go HAM and we know maybe when we need to dial things back a little bit

So the context for why we’re here tonight is it’s not that I didn’t know what he believed about the Earth and he didn’t know what I believed about the Earth we’ve been friends for a while and I preached for him at the Skyfall conference and had a wonderful time I

Was there to to preach on Deliverance I wasn’t there to preach on cosmology nor did he ask me to right and so we knew where each other was but however long ago it’s been now it seems like months but I guess really only a little more

Than a month I had my now famous rant uh in a Sunday morning message for about 12 to 15 minutes uh because you have to understand as a local church pastor there was just a lot of division that began to creep in in various ways and various people and I thought you know

What I’m just going to kind of nip this now I’m a guy that just kind of gets up and says what I feel pastorally needs to be said but here’s what I under anticipated right I under anticipated on both sides just how passionate people are in many ways about this issue and so

I really picked a scab inadvertently and found out very quickly that there are people on both sides that don’t just have a little bit of belief but a lot of belief right and a lot of P passion behind those beliefs and so all of that being said all things being

Equal tonight we are not going to as the Oldtimer say fix Rome over tonight okay I I’m not going to spend the entirety of my time trying to convince you of my position nor his what we’re trying to do tonight is draw some simple conclusions

From the word of God and say what is the Lord really saying and for those of you who aren’t Christians I want you to understand that tonight you’re going to find out both from this man of God and from myself and from the Bible regardless of where we are

Cosmologically you’re going to find out that there is a God in heaven that loves you deeply and Jesus Christ died for you he wants you to be saved there is only one gospel and it is the death the burial and the resurrection of Jesus Christ and because we don’t serve some

Dead Jew in a Palestinian tomb we serve a risen savior you can have freedom and liberty and victory tonight we can at least agree on that would you shout Amen in the [Applause] house so as our folks are getting everything prepared make sure we have Pastor Dean’s mic and everything he’s

Going to need here here’s how things are going to flow tonight I told him listen we we had a a a gifts debate a year two ago a couple years ago kind of a Deliverance debate and we had a guy he was super stiff you know and he just

Managed the time and I said you know what I I don’t want us to have that divisiveness and be like oh my goodness only got one minute left I said I really want to make this a debate but also a discussion and so here’s what we’re

Going to do in a moment when I bring Pastor Dean to the platform we’re going to sit down in these comfy chairs and we’re really just going going to have a bit of a discussion right we’re going to open-ended just just Bare Bones he’ll be honest ask a few questions to each other

I want you to get to know his mindset and the inner workings of how he was led uh into this uh theological position as well as myself and then after just a little bit kind of get to know you time uh then we are going to allow him to go

Into his time and uh he will take the time that he needs I know he’ll have some things hooked up through the you know the screens and the HDMI cables and all of that he’ll have full control over all of that once he does that then I will get up and

It won’t be rebuttal time I’ll then get up and give my my biblical arguments from my vantage point and then while each of us are speaking we’ll be jotting some things down you know perhaps maybe here’s a question or maybe here’s a a contradiction or something that didn’t

Quite sound right and we can write that down so then after I get through with my discussion he can then get up and give a rebuttal to what I said and then I’ll get up after that and give a rebuttal to some of the things that I wrote down

What he said and the only way to to keep us from going back to back over and over again and making things boring and mundane is to split it up that way all right so again we’re not going to answer everybody’s questions what I found in this debate is that Holy Smokes this

Debate could go for a week there’s a lot of YouTube videos there’s a lot of Twitter right there’s a lot of Facebook there’s a lot of stuff on both sides of the we’re not going to be able to deal with all of it tonight but we’re going to do the best

That we possibly can and so ladies and gentlemen I would like you to respectfully get on your feet and give a good Applause for the man of God Pastor Dean O come on up here Pastor thank you for being at our house tonight we honor you we welcome you

Hallelujah all righty wonderful well amen thank you brother well we’re going to have a lively time tonight it’s going to be exciting I want you to just you know kind of welcome the people and just just kind of give us and again we won’t take

A long long time with this but you know hey Church it until tomorrow and you drove a long ways to get here many of you and so it’s going to be a good time kind of give us just a working idea in the ministry of how you were led into This already he’s got the bad mic chur chur Born Again a powerful experience with Jesus I mean I have Revelation 11 Heaven hell can they gonna fix his audio I think they’ll fix it we can’t be the only ones noticing glory of God was around me as I

Walked down the aisle I don’t even remember I don’t even remember I remember stepping out of the aisle I don’t remember walking down it and I got up there with the the pastor and prayed and accepted Jesus and I was powerful y born again and baptized not long after

That but then of course that I got into my teenage years my parents divorced and so we quit going to church and um of course like most teenagers I got into my friends kind of Drew me into alcohol and drugs and sexual immorality and I got

Into all that real heavy during my high school years of my first year in college and uh so when I got I was 19 years old I decided Well I’m going to go out and work you know in fact I was in uh Alabama was at Troy State University

It’s now Troy and uh I was really feeling depressed and I was partying you know I was in Sigma Kai fraternity I was getting drunk every night and partying every night and I was getting burned out and I had a modeling contract I was supposed to be in the first Die Hard

Movie and all that stuff and so we we’re we’re getting ready to do that that’s a Christmas movie by the way I just want you to know that it is uh you have my favorite ornaments the one where he’s in the air duck and yeah um but uh I was

Going to just go work for the summer and um I was going to work for the summer and then go to Hollywood actually that’s where I was headed and uh God had other plans the guy started working for started talking to me about Jesus and I knew everything he saying was true and

Then when he finally said used the scripture from Galatians he said no drunkard’s going to inherit the kingdom of God and I was a drunkard man and uh I was convicted for three weeks and then somewhere on my day off about three about a month into this the Holy Spirit

Spoke to me the first time I really know that God spoke to me and he said Son you can have everything the world has to offer and go to hell or you can surrender your life to me and live forever and I he was making me

Choose and I could see if I went to Hollywood what was going to happen the Lord just gave me a vision I saw it and uh and I said well Lord I’m going to go with you and I told him I said Lord I’m going with you or I’m not going at all

Will not be a hypocrite and so I went and prayed with my boss that day and repented of my sins and really quit the drinking and the drugs and the alcohol and the sexual immorality and turn my my life over to Jesus am amen and I’ve had some powerful

Experiences with him uh just shortly after that I had an open vision of of Heaven saw him he called me to the ministry that’s a whole other story but so I started preaching uh when I was 19 preaching on the street witnessing to people uh my first convert was a high

Level Satanist witch and that was uh that was an experience uh I learned a lot there and in fact I’ve been doing Deliverance since 1987 amen yeah amen uh and then of course you know then God began to progress me on and have me start planting churches and I did that

And I’ve done a little bit of everything preach in prisons and did evangelism and did college campus ministry all over the country and stuff like that been to uh preach in the Middle East spent time in Middle East Africa the island of macius out the middle of the Indian Ocean so

I’ve led a lot of people to Jesus over the years A lot of them are pastors now ministers now so um I’ve been in the ministry a long time and so in 20 um 2008 I was in a church in Washington DC it was kind of under

Working on staff I wasn’t the head guy and I found out that they were compromised in a lot of areas they were actually Semi-Pro abortion it was it horrible and uh I knew the Lord wanted me to speak up and deal with it and confront it so I did and uh the Lord

Told me said they’re going to fire you on November 30th this 2008 they’re going to fire you and I said yeah okay they’re going to fire you and then when you do I want you to go back to your hometown and start a church so uh they fired me on

November 30th and uh I went back home and we started firing Grace Church in opal likee Alabama we’re right next door to Auburn University so I’m a big Auburn fan and uh and that’s where we started 2009 so fast forward you know I preach on just about everything I talk about

The Nephilim the Giants the alien stuff the you know I talk about everything and that’s why I’m going to this place because in 2015 the Lord spoke to me about two months before God really open open my eyes to this and he said uh he said I

Got something else to show you and it’s big and I thought what in the world could it be I mean I’m already casting demons out of Christians I’m already you know ostracized with that I had to walk away from the Assemblies of God just become independent you know and uh I

Said what could it be and so a friend of mine that I that had gotten saved out in Hollywood I this guy worked with all the big folks in Hollywood he gotten saved and I was kind of mentoring and discipling him from a distance and one

Day just sent me this question he said does firmament Earth ring a bell now he’s already a little strange being in Hollywood but I was like I was like what is he talking about I don’t even know so he sent me this video and it said nothing about Flat

Earth or biblical cosmology it said nothing about it in the beginning but I just started watching it and the first part of it was a lot about NASA’s fakery where they’ve been caught faking stuff the ISS and all kind of stuff and the the moonlandings and all that I already

Didn’t believe in the moonlanding so he sent me this and I’m like what is he talking about but as it got about halfway through it the Holy Spirit just came all over me I knew I said you know what they’ve lied about everything not just some things but everything and I

Was began to see you know the high altitude balloon footage and there there is no curve and the long distance photography and there is no curve and we’ve done the experiments ourselves what was that and so I begin to see these things and I was like Wow and then

I pulled the Bible out again and went back and go you know I I began to realize I have beli men what men had to say about God’s creation instead of what the Bible just plainly said dirt dirt is funny and I realized you know even in my

Younger days when I was in my 20s and 30s I would read Joshua 10 where Joshua told the the Earth he told you know he standing on the earth and he tells stop moving and I would always say wait a minute Lord how does this happen there

You go because he didn’t say tell the Earth to stop spinning so that always troubled me I could never reconcile that in my mind with what I had been taught from a child and once God opened my eyes to this and then I began to see the

Evidence and uh and which I’m going to share a lot of that I began to see the evidence uh I pulled my Bible out and I pulled out my strongs and my Greek and Hebrew dictionaries and lexicons and started going back to it all you and I

Had to admit that I hadn’t just taken God’s word l literally in those areas of how he described he he created the Earth and that it was still in at rest that it was motionless that it was stable that it was not flying through this vast universe that that he didn’t he didn’t

Teach any of that and so it took me about a month I I couldn’t sleep much because I just kept studying and studying and studying and then finally the Lord had me share it to our church and I turned off everything I turned off our public broadcast and said

I’m just going to share it to our church and see how how they respond and it it’s been amazing and then that was eight years ago and man it’s been quite the ride since then I mean it’s it’s exploded and um and here we are yeah Abol my side of

It yeah a lot of our folks and even a lot of people watching maybe aren’t as into this and understand the reality of it and and that’s one of the reasons I think it’s good that two pastors are discussing and debating this from a Biblical creationist standpoint but what

I find and some of this no doubt is perception because this is so new to me and and you have to understand I’m going to be a little bit guarded uh in the way that I discuss things tonight because I can be very bombastic right and I I

Don’t want to seem abrasive I don’t want to come off as a jerk for Jesus but here here’s one of the things that that bothers me from the beginning and and I just want to ask you a couple of questions because you’re really the one that we brought here to explain maybe

What we don’t understand what we’re trying to figure out right and so there’s no need for me to ask myself these questions questions and so the first one is I I have a hard time with the people that see factual things and I’m not talking about curves and all

That I’m not talking about looking out the window of an airplane and all of that right we could argue that the cows come home but I watched this show uh this behind the curve right and there were three times in that documentary where the evidence proved rotation and curvature and in each

Occasion the Flat Earth individual said ah you know it’s it’s not going the direction that we want it to go and then of course they ended the whole show with well that that that’s interesting right and so my question is why is it that when when we do come up with an argument

It seems like it doesn’t matter what we say you’re just not going to believe it does that make sense how can you just reject the works both ways yeah oh understood cuz we show evidence and then everybody you know people go well I don’t care here’s the thing about

Whether it be the J oscope that that uh electronic gyroscope and I I remember that now you got to remember you got to look at things like just because somebody does an experiment that experiment has to be repeated again and again and again and observed again and

Again before you realize it but see Michaelson moley the were two scientists in the days of Einstein did an experiment the famous one where they proved uh that the Earth was not moving through the ether and The Ether was a an accepted concept back then and really

More and more physicists are coming to accept The Ether now what the ether is is it’s an unseen you can see it sometimes if you zoom in on the moon but it’s actually a a a dense type superf fluid type gas it gets more dense as you

Go up and I’ve I’ve talked about a lot but here’s what they they discovered when Michaels and morle did their experiment they did find one six movement okay because the ether is moving the ether is what we believe the sun and the moon are moving in a circuit

As the Bible says in Psalm 19 that the sun and the moon’s moving in a circuit over us and that they’re at a certain altitude and that literally that ether current is what’s pushing it around I found government documents that actually admit this that they believe in The

Ether current and they believe in The Ether so the ether is moving so certain instruments like when Michaels and Morley did their test to see if the Earth was moving and the gyroscope sometimes they’re going to pick up the movement of The Ether and not necessarily is doesn’t mean that the

Earth is spinning now like one of the big arguments of the global side the spinning ball side is the folkal pendulum but what we have discovered is that in Smithsonian I actually have the the documents the Smithsonian admits that they use an electromagnet to move

It and my friend Matt long is here who used to where are you Matt this there he is back there Matt long used to work for a construction company that actually installed one of those electromagnets on the pendulum so they say they try to tell us in the media through the media

And and the agenda is that the Earth spinning is what’s moving the pendulum but they you have tour guides that will admit when they the folkal penum they’ll admit that they have a a motor on it an electromagnet motor that it that if it was left alone it’d stand still but they

They keep it moving so what I’m saying is that there’s a lot of stuff that they that’s put out for evidence but once you really look at it and you can even find them admitting it that it’s kind of gets debunked real quick but there’s a

Movement in The Ether for sure but let me let me just say this too I spent I spent hours I was one of I am the one that put out the government documents because I I spent one day S I sat down with a cup of coffee and at like 9:00 in

The morning and I didn’t get up until 5: that that afternoon digging through the Freedom of Information Act uh room where there’s Declassified documents there I found Russian and United States military CIA you name it documents that admit that we live on a non-rotating flat Earth and I could give you

Literally dozens and dozens and dozens of those documents that our government admits it but they kept it secret from us so what I’m saying is there’s a lot of evidence and the original science in fact Einstein created his famous theory of relativity uh because once they that that Michaels and Morley proved by

Scientific they admitted that their experiment proved that the Earth was not moving but they could not accept that because they were hardcore cernic and they just didn’t accept it and so he came up with the eals mc² Theory right but Tesla Tesla said his theory was just

A bunch of hogwash and he was a fuzzy headed IDs and Tesla was the one that was the real inventor and true scientist so um so what I’m saying is is that that it works both ways you know but you got to I will say this people that are on

Our side my side about this issue you you the other side you have to remember this about us we believed everything you believed before you know cuz that’s what we were taught you know you we didn’t have a choice I mean from childhood you on up you’re you’re that’s ingrained in

Your head that we’re spinning and flying through an an ever expanding universe but here’s the reason why you know that’s not true we can observe it but but see remember brainwashing stops you from being able to think and even accept What You observe now they tell us we’re

We’re going around the earth 66,000 M hour 67 I mean it changes all the time and they say well that’s we’re going around the Sun then they say that we’re moving 500,000 miles an hour through our solar system and then it says that our solar system is moving through the ever

Expanding galaxies at half a million miles an hour now we do that they say we’re doing that that we’ve been doing that for thousands of years and yet Polaris the Northstar never moves when somebody does time lapse focuses on the North Star and does time-lapse photography

The circles that the star make the star trails are perfectly circular and every night I can walk out at my house and point a direction and Orion’s Belt will come up in the same place every night now if we’re flying spiraling spinning through this through an ever expanding

Universe then the Stars we see should have changed but we can look back at the ancient Egyptians and they were looking at the same stars and navigating the same way we do today so just by what we observe and see we are not a spinning ball in

Outer space and then flying through an endless space that’s just nonsense let me ask you a question and we’re going to get to a lot of that more in detail when we when we both do our our debate discussions one of the things I have a

Hard time with is you know look I get the government lies one of the hard things about the Flat Earth idea what I would call A Flat Earth theory is there’s a lot of conspiracy theories that are true that I believe in right there there’s no no doubt about that and

So it’s almost like an Us and Them you guys are the few enlightened people of reality whereas I would say well of course I know the election was stolen of course I know that vaccines are nonsense of course I didn’t close my church we even put up a sign that said we’re a

Mask free campus we won’t even allow you to wear a mask here and so it’s not like we’re into all of the stuff right and so it it it seems like with this you know Us Versus Them football mentality that we’re tackling each other over some of the same issues because

Yeah there’s a lot of things that you and I agree on but then it’s like you got to keep going deeper in the conspiracies and keep going deeper and now you can agree with me on all these things but if you don’t agree about the Flat Earth theory the Flat Earth model

And concept well then you don’t really understand the Bible I’m not saying you can’t be saved I don’t believe you would believe that either you don’t really understand the word uh you’re not really enlightened like the rest of us but then we know you know government NASA lies

But here’s the problem that I have and and probably in your presentation you’ll talk about some of those documents I’ve read every one of those documents that you released I see no not yet I Haven released some of them well the ones that you have released publicly I I read all

Of them said I wanted to be very thorough but here’s the issue NASA bad NASA bad NASA bad but these NASA documents that I just released tell you that NASA is telling the truth so I don’t understand the discrepancy and I’m just being honest about that well it’s simple when these documents were

Top secret meaning if you divulged the information that was in them before they were released through the Freedom of Information Act you went to prison uh by accused of treason okay so the government will hide things like okay the MK Ultra program we use that example the MK Ultra program was denied

By our government for decades and decades and decades they Operation Paperclip after World War II they brought all the Nazi scientist over here gave them immunity and they basically started the mind control program progr through the it’s called MK Ultra it’s called Uh operation artichoke Mocking

Bird right so all of this was done the United States government the Canadian government was involved all right all of this was kept top secret until it got leaked out in the 70s and through the church committee and it got leaked out and then they found the documents buried

In the um the CIA headquarters and they had destroyed matter of fact the CIA director Alan DS had destroyed about 200,000 documents trying to cover it up but they found some hidden in another office so all the that is what’s going on Truth came out so what I’m saying is

The truth came out in the 70s and finally actually Bill Clinton President Bill Clinton actually apologized because experiments were done on human beings mind using drugs and and physical abuse and sexual abuse and sometimes against people’s will without their knowledge and some people died in those experiments that the CIA was doing now

You could look back and go back then and say oh that’s a that’s a conspiracy uh and the government you know the government covered it up but when those documents come out that were kept secret and we know okay they they they were discussing this between them and they have to do that

And no idea why that keeps happening that’s obviously on their stream we will wait till it come Ogle is teaching don’t crop their heads off is there okay I’ll move it down thank you for that we will fix that and I see I’m going to end the poll looks like it’s

The same way with NASA and it’s the same way with our other other government agencies and Military they don’t tell us everything what they actually do and then the Freedom of Information Act I’m going tell you this I believe the freedom of Information Act is Jesus made

Him do it because Jesus said everything done in secret and spoken in secret is going to be shouted from the [Applause] rooftops and I actually believe it’s a rule that God God has made them start revealing things to us and so that’s it’s easy to determine I look at a

Document that’s top secret it was kept top secret from us for years and years and years and decades and finally now it’s released oh I can go I see why they were hiding it gotcha all right I I know you’re going to talk a little bit about those

Documents and so let me let me just kind of move on to another question because I’m I’m really anxious to get you hooked up and let you start doing your actual presentation and and make sure the guys have the the cord and the computer and all of that ready okay the age-old

Question is why don’t you guys still have an actual map go why do you have a model but not a scaled map nobody does you know that all of our maps are wrong every single one of them well we have a scale and you can tell me that this is

200 200 miles apart from certain towns and I can look at the scale on a regular map and I can drive it it’s exactly 200 miles Map works works really well and again you have to know how to use map maps have different scales and different different things that you look at but

Bottom line is is that all maps are wrong the projection map one of the Mercer Maps show way show Iceland like bigger than Africa and that’s not true so when I’m saying is all M nobody has a true accurate to the perfect map that’s just a fact not your side not my side

We’re still working on it but we can travel based off our model and based off our map and get exactly where we want to get but you can’t do that on the model of the Flat Earth no it’s not true and even Africa is like 3,000 miles wider than it’s supposed to

Be because it’s looking down on a spherical Earth and it’s just been flattened out it’s it’s absolutely not true um that that is 100% true no it’s not no it’s not no it’s not in fact navigation and I have this in my book navigation is called the great circle

Navigation not the great sphere navigation all right so everything yeah but every pilot will tell you that’s an actual commercial airline pilot where’s my Army pilot where’s my Army pilot yeah stand up Army pilot where are you okay see there it is so what I’m saying is not every pilot will tell you

That I have a friend good dear friend commercial airline pilot commcial pilot a commercial pilot will tell you I have multip in fact because I don’t want to get on a plane of a guy that doesn’t know about the rotation of the Earth up in the wrong place no you that’s the

Entire idea wow because this is what okay this a perfect example of what I’m talking about all right if if you if you believe the Earth is spinning and if you believe in the Coralis effect that you have to do I definitely believe in the

Cor it’s not even in the in the seal manual and I have a seal friend so what I’m going to tell you right now is that if that was happening you could not land a plane on a north south Runway because if the Earth is spinning at 1,000 mil

Hour hour and an airplane is flying at 500 Miles hour and you have to count in velocity and you have to figure all that in they could not land on a north south Runway it’s impossible gyroscopes in Planes tell the the pilot that they’re flying flat and

Level and many many Pilots have come out and F-16 Pilots come out and a whistleblower and said it’s flat he knows it here’s another thing you see a F-16 I’ve been in down in Pensacola where you see the Blue Angels do their thing they will fly 50 feet off of the

Water breaking the sound barrier okay now that means that they are moving over 700 miles an hour right they break the sound barrier sometimes they’re flying at MCH to in a straight line now if they’re flying that fast and the Earth’s curving and most people don’t on on your

Side do not know how much the Earth curves they don’t even know the the formula but it’s 8 in per mile squared now if you do that going that fast you’re going to have to be nosing the plane down in fact if you’re going 500 mil hour you’re going to be nosing the

Plane down like 2,000 ft which is over half a mile every few minutes right if you’re flying at Mach 2 it’s incredible they would have to be nosing the plane down continually and Pilots will tell you that they never nose their plane down to follow the curvature of the

Earth that is a fact they don’t have to have their nose down to follow the curvature of the earth they fly at altitude and altitude takes care of the curvature of the earth that’s the entire point of of a pilot that’s how he keeps

The plane in the air to say that you got a nose down and go around Earth let me explain something to you about let me explain something to you about aerodynamics aerodynamics will tell you right now you cannot fly a plane at mock 2 you cannot fly a plane in any curve I

Don’t care if it’s this way this way or this way they do not fly they will come apart that’s why the SR71 there was one time it just came to Pieces it had to fly straight and level what is that noise or it would just burn up and tear

Apart so no I’m sorry they don’t knows a plane down when so you’ve never seen a plane curve you’ve never seen a plane do flips go up go down barrel roll you hear you no no what you’re talking about is you’re going somewhere else with this that’s different when I’m talking of a

Plane flying at Mock one mock 2 mock three they’re they’re not nosing the plane down he I don’t travel to go preach at Mock 1 mock 2 I’m I’m talking about real people understanding the the science behind this not just speculations of being able to say well a

Lot of Pilots have come out well I would like to see one of them because they’re here got one here they’re not they’re they’re not here he he he just said he wasn’t a military pilot got hel listen these are the people that guy right there white shirt hold on now the white

Shirt guy commercial airline pilot Army pilot commercial airline pilot what difference what that make because the people that want to talk are helicopter Pilots are the only flat earthers I’ve ever met I’ve only met three of them which is fine and then people that fly small planes for small distances because

If you’re going to get in an airplane and I know you guys hate the song the hemisphere and all that kind of stuff I’m telling you there is no possible way to make it from point A to point B without curvature and rotation of the earth it’s an impossibility now I know

Your side does not believe in that but to say that you guys have professional surveyors that survey M I’m not talking about little bitty areas or Pilots okay let me bring this up you since you bring up surveyors geolog us Geological Survey yeah is very clear that they don’t even

Count curvature over 100 square miles well you know what that’s about foolish because either they don’t know they count it as flat over 100 square miles they count the Earth as flat do you know how much curvature is at 100 miles supposed to be there well we have a

Surveyor in the room tonight no oh no I’m asking you do you know how much curvature of the earth is supposed to be there in 100 miles well if you use the parabolic approximation which is the zetic astronomy which is nonsense because that’s a curve is an arch it

Would look like the world would look like the St Louis Arch no that is not it every scientist I have a PhD in physics here with me that’s highly sought after across the world by Google and NIH and everything else she will tell you that if you’re going to have a ball that’s

24,901 miles in circumference and it’s a perfect sphere right you have a sphere and that’s what Massa shows us is a perfect sphere though O’Neil degrass Tyson says it’s a pear shape thing right but here we here here we go if you have a sphere it’s not a perfect sphere but I

Get it go ahead well that’s the pictures they give us so somebody’s wrong but here’s the thing if it’s curving if it’s a if it’s a sphere 24,901 miles the mouth is not Lo it is 8 in per mile squared at the equator and actually if

You go up the ball going east and west it actually increases to 9 and a quter 9 and a half it actually the curve gets worse so no these are things we can calculate and and they’re not arguing I have I have engineers and phds and

Physics who will explain to you the math if you need to explain to you but I don’t know where you’re coming from with that crazy stuff the Earth if it is the ball it comes right out of the zentic astronomy book from Samuel Robo no no no

It doesn’t I don’t use I I’ve never even read his book okay know this math is very clear it’s it’s as clear as it get where where’s my PhD in physics please stand [Applause] what’s the square I’m just I’m going to just ask you to raise your hand is an

Approximation does the Earth if it’s a sphere curving 24,900 miles circumference does is that an average of 8 in per mile squar yes okay right but the square is an approximation yes or no no absolutely actually 7.9 Ines it’s accurate it’s very accurate so like I

Said it’s it’s that’s a PhD in physics now if you want to go she does experiments at Tuskegee University in Alabama and like I said she knows what she’s talking about so I that’s why I brought these people because we’re not going to go down these these these crazy

Roads I mean the math is math yeah exactly yeah and the math is not in your favor and so I mean yeah anybody could bring testimonies any doctors phds that’s fine but the squared is an approximation it’s a parabolic approximation for an Arts that’s 100% the facts that’s that’s 100% true no no

It’s not it is it is not if you draw a circle you can figure out how much it’s curving yeah so at the end of the day so at the the end of the day parabolic approxim it is an approximation but the question still has to be answered

Regardless of how off our maps are which we can navigate very well with him why is there no real map for the model of the Flat Earth why is there no curvature when we go out with high Zoom cameras no no I can ask whatever I want to ask I

Look look I don’t agree with you about that I know that’s I just want an answer to the question is there an actual map that can be produced like we have a map we don’t have a model we have a map and an entire model that can be made

Predictions off of I’ve already answered the question I’m not are no predictions I’m not answering again that can be made all the from a flat Earth model all the maps are wrong all the maps are wrong all the maps are wrong all the maps are wrong and they know it so then

Why isn’t your map wrong when you say Antartica encircles the entire disc and the North Pole is right in the middle why isn’t your map wrong but our map is wrong but the model proves that all the predictions for our map are a th% correct they’re not the early listen you

Got to understand that there are people that’s why they I do understand that’s why I’m asking you the question you interrupted me I tell you what I’m not going to do this Interruption thing all right I’m not so we can just go to a presentation we’re going to do this I’m

Not doing it I just want you to answer the question no no I’m not doing it why not I’m not going to do this interrupt because I start giving answer you interrupt me no answer the question I’m not doing I’ll give you 30 seconds of Silence why

Do you not have a map or a model that can make predictions why we do we do and I want to tell you it’s been very accurate the astrol is another instrument that’s that’s proved this it’s based on a flat non-rotating Earth the astrol that’s how they navigated

Seas long before we got to this nonsense okay about their spinning ball thing it’s always been based on even the compass itself is based on a flat circular Earth not it doesn’t work if you’re down here it’s not pointing through the ball so what I’m saying is is that

Bottom line that that is not even that is not even the argument the argument is not there we we know there’s discrepancies in the maps and the early explorers who went into the Arctic region who used the instruments that they had based on a sphere trying to

They would always find themselves out of Reckoning they said sometimes extreme out of Reckoning when they went there I document all this Captain Captain Ross and all these others I document Captain after Captain after Captain who before they had to lie and before there was NASA that when you go into the southern

Part the southern hemisphere if that’s what you want to call it when you go there that they are out of Reckoning trying to base their navigation on a sphere that’s that’s documented history well I mean you can make a dead man say anything so it’s easy to talk about what

Used to happen back then we have more technology now than the world’s ever imagined and it’s growing every day so why can’t you do those same things now why do you always have to talk about these people that used to try to do this did you know right now there’s between 1

And 5,000 people on the continent the continent of Antarctica and and people are like well you know NASA’s there and there’s these you know gunny penguins that are keeping people from getting it it’s just it’s this Fantastical nonsense where people have flown over it taken pictures you know people have circum all

Of these people have circumnavigated Antarctica you can buy a cruise ticket all right you can buy a cruise ticket and go to Antarctica and here’s what’s interesting in 2019 the Flat Earth folks were going to take a cruise to Antarctica to prove their thoughts nothing ever came of it no no no that’s

Not here’s here let me explain that to you you can fly there today no no you can yeah fly there and see the coastline that’s about all you can do a little bit of the co absolutely oh yes oh yes and if you want to go there and stay oh no

You have to be have permission from a government have you ever seen the amount of stuff you have to fill out to go through there yes and also they’re not going to let you go and an expedition in land just as a just as a uh you know me

Or you they’re not going to let that happen and and here’s another thing if you know this would be easy to prove but they they hide this from us too all we’d have to prove is is is go to Antarctica if let me and you go to Antarctica spend

A week there in the summer and let’s see if if the sun does a 360° Circle all the way around us if so it’s a ball but if the sun comes in this way and then leaves that way then it’s not it is what we say it is and

There’s been they’ve had they have they have webcam videos right you at the Antarctica and there’ll be a flag pole sitting there and and the and so if the sun’s coming in this way you should have a shadow here and then it comes in and

It should be here and then it comes over here and then it should just be back here what they do is they never let you see 24 hours a day they never let you they they cut the tape they edit it and jiren of jiren ism actually has emails

From them asking why are you cutting the video and they giving these stupid ex explanations like oh well it’s too cold we can’t run it for 24 hours we can run it for 16 18 hours we can’t run it for 24 hours so all the footage is doctored

Is that it’s do and they admit it’s doctor so then why can’t we go and just see it for ourselves well let’s just let’s just see if they’ll let us oh they will let us I’ve already checked into it they’ll absolutely let us good luck let’s go they they will absolutely let

Us and not only will they absolutely let us I’ve got a cattle rancher in Texas that will pay for the entire trip let’s do it good we’ll fly right to antartic we stay one week Inland they’re going to let us stay one week Inland oh absolutely there’s people in land right

Now well yeah they all work for different governments of the world nah you can’t you can’t you don’t get to use the governments of the world there’s a lot treaty man Antarctica treaty read it you know what I did every line of it and none of it has anything to do with

Militarization of the area it even says peaceful Expedition people that live in tried to go there by himself and he was seized and arrested and put in jail all right so don’t tell me that we you can’t just so you expect me to change my entire theology over one man that got

Turned away no go ahead I’ll tell you what czy why don’t you try go there by yourself absolutely no no you agreed to go with me without government approval you agreed to go with me go over there without filling out the forms and see what happens why would I go without

Filling out the forms when I can plainly fill out the forms buy a ticket and go and they will let me in all I say is don’t talk about it until it’s done you you hadn’t proved a thing it’s been done no no no over and

Over and over being if you had been there then you’re just taking the word of people you hadn’t been there just like you taking the word of people about space you hadn’t been to space so you don’t know it’s real you just have faith in people that are telling you a story

Okay well said I mean we play that game all day long so there’s nothing I can believe about anything because I’ve not done it I’ve not been there if you can’t witness it with your own eyes you have to be able to question it that’s ridiculous

Because the Bible says God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth and If you deny the reality because you can’t see God therefore you don’t worship God that’s heresy and we’re not even on the same Christian page he didn’t say God

Look at this that’s not what he said what do you mean look at this your people are just we’re talking about the physical world and then you start talking about God that’s not what we’re talking about if there is no physical world without God the physical world is

What we’re talking about we’re not talking we are talking about the physical world the heavens declare the glory of God have you been to outer space I don’t have have to go to outer space I’ve got a telescope I can look at it you oh my gosh

Okay is this what we’re doing I’m GNA tell you Greg I’m not doing this this this because you have no answers I have giving you plenty of answers stop hold on hold on we’re stopping right now hold on a second I didn’t come here to have

An argument okay I came here to have a de a debate where we look at the scriptures so we’re going to look at the scriptures I’m going to tell you right now we got to set the tone before we look at the scriptures because we got to get through all this crazy trained

Nonsense so we can understand what the Bible actually nonsense all right we’re spending we’re spending 1,000 miles an hour we’re flying at 66,000 M an hour 67 they change it regularly 500,000 M hour through your space that you believe in and yet our I I don’t Our Stars never changed our

Rotates one time a day 1,000 miles 1,000 mil hour and I believe in the 60 I don’t know about all this the whole G Mo it there are people in this room that believe the Earth is stationary but want to convince me of upward acceleration instead of gravity that’s not true nobody believes

That nobody believes that that I know nobody believes in upward acceleration in the form of to misplace gravity do you hear it no we don’t no no that’s the Flat Earth Society they controlled opposition they believe a bunch of nonsense like a pancake so the Flat Earth is not what we believe okay

So y’all don’t get along with the Flat Earth Society no they’re what do you call them Shields no yeah so okay look control opposition this this is what I have a hard time with there are like nine different models or beliefs about Flat Earth and I don’t who’s right who’s

Wrong why is Flat Earth Society wrong but why are you guys correct you know you see what I’m saying that’s what I don’t understand and so just shouting things is not going to help the reason people can’t fathom this is because there’s so many different belief systems

About it whereas we have one model that works yeah because you’ve been brainwashed with it since you were born that’s why you have one model that’s what they wanted you to believe but listen we can go back we go okay we can go back to the scientists who who

Believed you know the people that that y’all look to for this you know that created this I don’t look to any of them cernus and all them look they were thinking the sun was 3 million miles away then it was 12 million miles away now it’s 93 million miles away so don’t

Tell me about M you guys have been working on this that’s because there’s technological advancements across the AG but again it’s been changing all the time and I don’t believe the the sun’s 93 million miles away at all in fact in fact there’s evidence to prove that it’s

Not so what I’m getting at is we can do like I said we can do this little argument right here all day long but I didn’t come to I didn’t come to argue like this I mean I mean maybe you want to make a show out of it but I’m not

Here to argue like I just want to answer the questions that I don’t have the answers to that I’m trying to figure out well I get they’re very simple question very you no no no you’re not going to play look here’s what you’re doing you’re playing this little game here

With me you don’t have an answer you don’t have an answer for because I’m not a flat earther no hold on hold on you don’t I’m talking about your model you do not have an answer as to why we’ve been flying through this ever expanding

Universe at 500 million oh I do have an answer hold on and the Stars never change in our view ever that’s not true that is true that is true because I’ve been I’ve been looking at it for a long time it is true go to the Southern

Hemisphere and look at the same ones yeah I’ve looked at it I know you been in the southern hemisphere yes I have and you’ve looked up can you see Polaris from the southern hemisphere sometimes you can it depends you never can oh no no no to a to to a certain degree south

You can but here’s the thing in our model the biblical model I believe and we believe that both the sun and the moon are much smaller and much lower and closer to the Earth as well as the Stars we don’t yeah we believe they’re the same size and we don’t believe we don’t

Believe the stars are some distant galaxies that are trillions of Miles Away We believe the stars are much closer so when things are smaller and closer when you move away from them you don’t get to see them because of perspective it’s anything like I’ve got

A I’ve got a video I’ll show you in a minute where a guy puts his camera on the ground on a flat football field and he starts walking away from it well he starts walking away from it his feet disappear first and then he gets up to

His knees and then up to his waist and then by the time he’s at the end of the football field he can squat down you can’t see he hadn’t left the flat football field right it’s a matter of perspective and so what happens is like the sun doesn’t go down it doesn’t go

Around the curve it just simply gets too far away for us to see because it’s lower and smaller and it gets further away and it’s actually what the Bible says the Bible doesn’t say you know the King James will say the sun goes up and

Down if you look the word up it’s bow in the Hebrew and it means just to come in and go out it’s all it means like to walk in it says like to walk in the front door and walk out the back door it’s not talking about going over a

Curve and so again that’s what I’m talking about our model and then and that’s what we get it I I’m not you you try to take your model and apply stuff to it to ours they’re completely different oh they’re way different there’s no doubt about that they’re

Completely and I’m I’m not trying to amalgamate the two there is no amalgamation in them okay I I there’s no way I can believe that the Sun and Moon are the same size and the what 32 miles wide is that something like like 3,000 miles wh why can’t I go out in the

Middle of the night and get a telescope and find the sun you can’t because every instrument I don’t care what we have I don’t care if it’s the most powerful instrument you got it has a limit to its Vision I have most of us in here have a

P900 p900 yeah yeah but I’m talking about like a telescope yeah we’ve used telescopes we’ve used so why can’t I find the sun if it’s only 3,000 mil it’s too far away and it’s moving it’s moving moving th000 mil hour and it’s moving too far away again it’s perspective it’s

Like anything I don’t care you can drive a car down the road and sooner or later it’s even if you’re in New Mexico or Arizona sooner or later it’s going to disappear from your vision though it’s still on the road it’s still going and then you can take a high zoom camera and

You can pull it back in and catch it again but eventually as it keeps going it’s going to get out of the range of that high zoom camera or telescope they’re not every telescope andera powerful it’s its Optical abil ities it still has a limit to it so it’s

It runs out and so what happens to us we have a convergence the way we see things everything goes down like this to a point that’s why when you see a plane a plane could be flying at us from this direction and it can be maintaining an

Altitude of 40,000 ft but when you’re looking at it coming at you it’s going to be low on the horizon then it’s going to look like it’s high above your head as it goes over you your eyes are seeing it as it’s going down this way and it’s never changed

Altitude that’s the same with the Sun or the moon or the Stars well said it can’t be the same with the Sun the moon and the stars that’s an impossibility and you I disagree I disagree I disagree you can’t have a a a sun and a moon that are the same size

And stay in the exact whatever if y’all use the phrase orbit in the exact same orbit in the exact same path in the exact it’s an impossibility to have that there there’s no way in that model you don’t understand the model that that scientifically I don’t understand the

Model because it doesn’t work well our our government sure thinks it works how does our government think it works they tell you everything they even base their aircraft flying off a non-rotating flat Earth they programmed it listen I have a document from 1962 now we already had satellites right in 1958 first satellite

Echo satellite they this is funny they tell us that it had a 100 uh basically 100 yard myar balloon and it went into outer space yeah right here’s the thing 1961-62 I have a document that was classified meaning that if you exposed it you were going to prison in that

Document it says that two NASA scientists rocket scientists programmed their IBM computer to track missiles in space based on a non-rotating flat Earth and that document was classified now they program their computer so if it’s not flat and non- rotating why on Earth would two rocket scientists from NASA program their

Computer to track a missile in space that way so when I say the government believes it because they have to build things to work the way the Earth really is and the way the system really is but they just don’t tell you that you have

To dig and find that out well we have a a military guy how many military folks do we have in the building on either side if you’re military stand up if your military stand up all over the room thank you for your service thank you thank you thank you all

Right do you then any of you on on your side and I’m asking politely do you deny the reality that our government has spent billions of dollars on Over the Horizon missile systems why would they build Over the Horizon missile systems unless they were going to shoot them

Over the horizon for the curvature of the Earth for an enemy that you can’t see here’s a fact have you interviewed a uh I interviewed a guy named Sean he’s in my book uh he’s he was a sparrow missile instructor for the Navy and I interviewed him and I said tell me about

Your laser weapon on your ship now the Navy has a laser weapon I actually have the article I actually have it in this the Navy has a laser weapon that is clearly lasers are line of sight they don’t bend over a curve but I’m talking

About the ones that do I I’m no no you can shoot okay let’s let’s let’s say I give you your alleged curve yes you can shoot a projectile up in the air over curve and then make it land where you want to all right hold on I’m talking about shooting straight

Across nothing does this a laser doesn’t do this I’m not asking about a laser I’m telling you about a weapon system now you want to talk about your weapon system I want to talk about mine all right but I asked you about mine because I asked the question and I just said I

Don’t know exactly what weapon you’re talking about I’m being specific what weapon are you talking about Over the Horizon missile system which is a missile that shoots across the ground Over the Horizon because of the curvature of the earth and hits an intended target that you can’t see

Because of the curvature of the earth okay hear what I’m about to say I don’t care about that I’m telling you I’m going to tell you what no no no no don’t interrupt me because if you interrupt me we’re we’re just going to be done cuz

I’m not going to be interrupted we were done when we got started I can tell you that but that makes no sense you know my brother is a lieutenant colonel in the military my friend lieutenant colonel then I want him to stand up and I want him to publicly deny Over the Horizon

Missile systems in the United States military let’s stop right there all right I’m going to tell you about a laser because we know lasers are line of sight weapons right my lieutenant colonel friend he uh he actually speaks fluent Russian taught at West Point and will tell you that there not only are

There radar but laser weapons or line of sight weapons the Navy admits on in their defense magazine that their laser weapon that has no curvature to it whatsoever it’s not curving can shoot down Russian and Chinese cruise missiles flying 50 fet over the water over a 100 miles away now let me explain

To you what 100 miles is because you didn’t you didn’t know a minute ago what curvature supposed to be there at 100 miles I’ll tell you if the Earth is a sphere 24,901 miles in circumference the 8 Ines per M squared on average means that in 100 miles there should be

6,666 ft of coverage that’s well over a mile of curve there is no laser weapon shooting from a Navy ship doing this to hit a missile moving at mach four I’m sorry but the Navy admits by that the Earth is level and nonrotating I I can assure you the United States

Military does not admit that the Earth is flat and if it does then how come you can’t trust them but now you can trust them you see you only trust that question you only trust people that are on your side you never trust anybody that has an opposing side

Not true that 100% true I’ve listened to I’ve listened to all kinds of people about this stuff I’ve interviewed all kinds of people I guarantee you I’ve done far more research than you have on this issue oh I guarantee you after this debate I’ll never research this

Foolishness again I can promise you that right now well see that means you’ve already made up your mind I have made up my mind because I’m about to show you from the Bible God’s made up is mine I would love to see that you’re

About to cuz I know you can’t do it but you get to go first so get your computer and get that thing hooked up because I got a lot of questions I could [Applause] Ask by the way we got Ron is the one who made the Over the Horizon weapon system if you don’t know about Ron do some research into them in the military industrial complex 234 million was spent on uh this over the horizon radar system given to

Ron so when people ask why would you know why would the military pay for that well it’s because it’s our money the military is not paying [ __ ] it’s tax money and when you give tax money to companies like Ron then you can start to see why these things are developed it

Has nothing to do with anything actual useful or again the Earth’s flat so they can shoot that rocket anyway they’re not going to it’s not like oh if we don’t have this we can’t hit these other targets no you can still hit the targets you can just tell people you’re using some

System what else did he have to say in there um he’s wrong about so much uh this is and and the way I mean again this is the same way that these guys all talk he’s already made up his mind he absolutely is not looking for the truth he thinks

He knows the truth and smart people never go looking for answers to questions that they already think they have answers to so he went looking for all the debunks this is why he used all the professor not a professor Dave’s nonsense talking about oh it’s a

Parabolic Arc yeah well just CU he draws a sharp parabolic n doesn’t mean that you can’t bend a parabolic Arc out to be the shape of the earth it’s just par in a parabola you get the increasing curve with distance which is why you use a parabola

You can’t use a circle math because after a quarter of the globe you’d be coming back underneath yourself so you can’t use that for curvature it doesn’t make any sense otherwise the South Pole is directly underneath me in a globe if I’m on the North Pole you know for

Example so I think that uh OD will do a good job here okay okay and I got as long as I need right I have no idea exactly at least all right again lock is just one of those guys that uh feels that he’s in the

Position of power and so he can just make fun of it so I’m never going to believe this hor [ __ ] after this thing I mean again it’s uh all right all right she couldn’t find your cursor couldn’t find your cursor want to restart computer no that’s fine yeah it’s been having that

Problem system what is it system started 2014 yeah yeah so we and to those people because I get people now who say hey I found this video put up in 2019 or whatever of the 24-hour sun in Antarctica we found them to be faking those ones

The one with the old man who comes out and says oh it’s midnight you know snow on the hill then not after but uh the other thing is where were all these videos in 2015 the answer is none of them existed so you’re telling me that

They’ve just known the Earth as a globe and just nobody thought to go down south and make a 24-hour video of the sun that’s ludicrous it wasn’t until Flat Earth came onto the scene started making stink that all of a sudden what’s Dave doing up there Dave did you tell him

Dave should hopefully told him that I’m on his side today otherwise he’s gonna fall apart don’t worry about it if it is we got two hours anyway so what else did I have uh did I put up on the screen I forgot uh happy to you all right everybody we I think we’re

Ready to get started here um let’s get it on and I’m going to show some things I’m going to go through I actually have a lot of slides but I’m going to try to get through them as quickly as possible um what’s that let’s pray I agree with that Father in

Heaven we come to you today and we just thank you for this time and we thank you for this opportunity we just open uh Lord just pray you just Open Hearts and Minds right now to hear your word for what it says it’s not metaphors and uh similes and illustrations that Lord your

Word you said exactly what you meant about how the Earth is and how your universe is and we believe that God and we thank you for it and we just pray for your peace and your truth right now to go forth in Jesus name amen

Now let me just go ahead and state this out front when it comes to the Bible it’s without question a flat non-rotating geocentric Earth that’s just the way it is the only way the other side gets to make it a spinning flying sphere is that they have to say oh those passages about

The pillars of the earth and the foundation of the Earth and the Earth doesn’t move that that is just uh metaph fors that’s just poetry but folks I’m going to read this scripture here we’re going to read a few scriptures first to start off with and

This is 2 Peter 1116 through 20 you guys can put it on the screen for everybody let’s read this he says for we have not followed cunningly devised fables when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ but were eyewitnesses of his magesty for he

Received from God the Father honor and Glory when there came such a voice to him from the excellent Glory this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased and this voice which came from heaven we heard when we were with him in the Holy

Mount we have also a more sure word of Prophecy where unto you do well that you take heed as unto a light that shineth in a dark place until the day Dawn and the day star arise in your hearts knowing this first that no Prophecy of the scripture is of any private

Interpretation for the prophecy came not in Old Time by the will of man but holy men of God God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost now here’s the other scripture we’re going to go through all scripture the 2 Timothy 3:16 all scripture even the parts that they want

To call metaphors and poetry and I think Pastor Greg called one he said hyperbole but hyperbole means exaggeration and lies and God doesn’t do that uh the Bible doesn’t use those things God means what he says now there’s few there’s symbolic language I’ll say like for instance let’s let’s talk about a

Symbolic language the Bible talks about a seven head ten horn beast in the Book of Revelation and in Daniel right but that seven head ten horn Beast we find out is a literal thing it’s going to be a world government in fact the United Nations has already become that a seven

Head ten horn Beast you have the five on the permanent Council you have the P5 plus one which is Germany we six and then the EU head comes in when they have a serious problem like the the Iranian nuclear deal so you have seven heads and then under that you have 10 rotating

Positions so literally the UN that’s going to end up being a world government has already seven heads and 10 horns so even though there symbolic language at times in the Bible is talking about something that’s real okay and that was what we need to agree on but all

Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine so the moment somebody says well the what what the Bible says in the Book of Job or whatever about creation doesn’t matter no it matters because it’s profitable for Doctrine right see the thing about is I’m not

Going to have to do theological jumping jacks to agree with the secular system his job’s easy about how creation is I can just stick with the word of God all right now when he says here all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for Doctrine for

Reprove for correction for instruction in righteousness that the man of God may be perfect thoroughly furnished unto all good works this one right here Revelation 12:9 and the Great Dragon was cast out that old serpent called the devil and Satan which deceiveth the whole world he was cast into the Earth

And his angels were cast out with him now we are told this is in the Book of Revelation chapter 12 that that Satan would deceive the whole world how is it that we think that Satan who is invisible who has power who actually has people who serve him in the government

In the militaries of the world how is it that we think if we gave him $60 million a day which is NASA’s budget that he couldn’t deceive the whole world with something and we know from the Bible that the number one way we know there’s

A Creator and that leads us to a Creator it says that we’re without excuse is the creation so if you were the devil and you wanted to lead people away from the Bible and finding Jesus as their lord and savior you would need to twist the creation story to make it completely

Wrong and get people to believe that your version of it is right and the Bible’s is wrong all right but that’s exactly what Satan has done now people all Christians when they come up they ask well why does this matter well we’re going to find out in just a second but

Here’s another verse people don’t talk about conspiracy look there’s conspiracy theories and then there’s conspiracy facts L when they tell you like for instance they’re going to make a vaccine well Bill Gates said this in 2010 he said when they say oh yeah we’re going to lower the population of the world

Through new vaccines now they just told you what they’re going to do but most people can’t even believe that but it’s already been happening now the Bible says there’s going to be a massive plot a massive conspiracy against the god of the Bible his Messiah Jesus Christ we’ll

Read it right here Psalm 2 why did the Heathen rage and the people imagine a vain thing the kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against his anointed saying let us break their band us under and Cast Away their cords

From us he that sth in the heavens though shall laugh and shall have them in derision then shall he speak unto them in his wrath and Vex them in his sore displeasure so he tells us here that the evil and this is the last day’s context he’s going to talk about the

Messiah coming and ruling with a rod of iron Jesus is going to return and fix everything right but he tells us that the kings of the Earth are going to take counsel and actually the Amplified says they’re going to bring together a plot and yes so they’re all in on it every

Lie that’s out there folks whether it be about creation I mean or or whatever Every Lie out there is to turn people away from the truth of God’s word you understand that’s what that’s what this is over we can sit here and argue maps and models and I have my military

Experts and he has here is we can argue this stuff all day long but the bottom line is the fruit the fruit of what’s going on and does the Bible say it but there is a plot now let me show you part of where that plot is is let’s go to

Romans here we go to Romans he says here this is Romans 1:1 18-20 he says for the wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth now this word in the Greek hold means to hold down suppress withhold

Holding truth he says that there are men who withhold the truth because that which may be known of God is Manifest in them for God has showed it unto them for the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen being understood by the things that are

Made even his eternal power and godhead so that they are without excuse so he tells us here that part of the plot remember acts I mean Psalm two we just read part of the plot is this hiding the truth about creation suppressing it they know there’s a

Firmament they tried to blow it up in the 1960s with operation Fishbowl glad it didn’t work right now let’s keep going here oh my bad wrong one here we go now this is what Pastor Greg said when his first rant here he said I don’t care about biblical cosmology there is

No such thing it’s man-made a few minutes later he said I want to be fair to that side because we’ve been lied to in a bunch of other areas does not mean we’ve been lied to about the shape and cosmology of the earth well is cosmology

A thing or is it not a thing I just wondering but cosmology is simp simply the definition cosmology is the science of of the universe cosmology is the study of the universe as a whole from its origin and of course they use the term evolution we don’t believe in

Evolution but they it’s it’s about the origin of the universe all right this is what it’s about now the world system has their version of this they believe in a big bang that nothing exploded and created everything right that’s POS which that’s that’s to me is mindblowing

How they believe this um but this is their thing it’s the next let me see did I do it right that one right there so they’re big bang look at it they’re at billions of years these galaxies and stars and all this stuff this is their version but this is not God’s version

Now let me ask you a question we we would think it’s ridiculous now like modern science modern science says that we evolved from the primordial goo and these creatures came along and then we finally became primates and then we finally after millions and zillions of years we we evolved from primates or

Monkeys now why as Christians do we not believe that number one there is no evidence if there was millions of years of this transitional phase there would be skeletons and fossils of this transitional phase so number one there’s no evidence that we can see and the Bible clearly teaches that

We didn’t come from monkeys over millions and billions years now we don’t believe the scientists scientists would get up here and tell you it’s a fact that we came from monkeys but we don’t accept that but then we’re going to accept their version you say well I’ve heard people say well

I believe in the Big Bang God made a big bang and that’s the way it was no no he tells us exactly how he created the Earth in Genesis in job in Psalms he tells us exactly how he did it um and it’s important you say well why is it

Important well let me show you something before we get to to that let me show you what Neil degrass Tyson one of our top astrophysicists and MIT ukaku tell us these are your [Applause] scientists there is a crisis in cosmology usually in science if we’re

Off by a factor of two or a factor of 10 we call that horrible we say something’s wrong with the theory we’re off by a factor of 10 however in cosmology we’re off by a factor of 10 to the 120 that is one with 120 zeros after it this is the largest

Mismatch between Theory and experiment in the history of science dark matter I got to ask what it is and my best answer is we haven’t a clue we don’t know what it is we look out in the universe and 85% of all the gravity that’s out there has some mysterious unknown source we

Add up all the stars the galaxies the planets the Comets the black holes the dark clouds everything out there that we can see touch smell or taste and it doesn’t add up to give us the Gravity that we see operating in this universe so really we should be calling it The

Dark Force cuz we don’t know if it’s made of matter like it could be a profound misnomer sending people off in thought directions that might not really be uh the right path so dark matter is just simply what we call this thing about which we know nothing responsible

For 85% of the gravity of the cosmos we’ve known about dark matter since the 1930s back then it was called missing Mass that’s what it was called cuz yeah there’s got to be some Mass where is it we can’t find it it’s got to be here somewhere because we got the gravity if

You have the gravity you got to have the mass mass and gravity go together uh it’s really dark gravity actually we shouldn’t call it anything we should call it Fred something that has no meaning because we don’t know what it is to call it but it has been a it is the

Longest standing unsolved problem in modern astrophysics now here’s two of your top scientists in the world telling you that on cosmology they’re off by 10 with 120 zeros beside then they start telling you for our model to work this all this gravity nonsense and spinning and flying things

They said it’s got to have a certain amount of gravity but we don’t know it doesn’t have that our what they’re saying is that our whole system we built makes no sense to us it doesn’t work and I’ll tell you why they call it missing Mass the missing mass is called the

Firmament you’re going to see that in a second that’s what they miscalculate but I want to share you with you this here and we’re going to skip ahead here I’ve already talked about this this is what is called the Hebrew concept of the universe this is what the Bible

Teaches right and we’ll get back to this in just a second but it shows you that this is what the firmament is the Dome structure over the Flat nonrotating Earth hell is beneath Heaven is above that God’s Throne sits on that this is what the Bible teaches there’s all the

Scriptures around that we’re going to get to that in a second so more like that not that in fact that sphere you’re looking at there is uh it’s a composite image but here’s what the Bible says the Bible describes a solid firmament Dome covered the Flat Earth on set on pillars

On a foundation that God himself built nothing in the Bible describes the Earth as a sphere all right and I’m going to show you that and I’m going to prove that but many Christians ask why does it matter or just say the issue of the nature of creation doesn’t matter I’m

Going to tell you why it matters and you’re going to see this now before we get to that I want you to see Jesus said this this is Matthew 24 this is Jesus talking these are in your red letters here Jesus said that immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall

Be dark and the moon shall not give her light the Stars shall fall from Heaven he didn’t say meteorites comets he said the Stars it’s the same word he used throughout the Bible for the stars now either they’re stars or they’re not stars now the heliocentric cernic model

That you guys some of you want to believe in says that the stars out there are bigger are massive bigger than the earth they’re they’re huge things that if one fell to the Earth it would swallow the Earth so Jesus did not teach a capern cosmology he taught a Biblical

Cosmology and that the stars are smaller closer and are going to fall to the [Applause] earth now that’s Jesus in the Bible and if you say that it’s not the Stars it’s some meteorites or comments or whatever you’re making up stuff because you are filtering that through a bias you’ve

Been brainwashed with from birth all right the the Bible says the Stars I was talking to a person who was a science teacher who’s a a strong Christian and I said I said what about the Stars falling to the Earth and he goes to to Revelation 6 and he says well don’t you

Think that’s just what what John was seeing was asteroids and meteorites falling it wasn’t really stars and I said well I said you got a problem with that if you’re going to say it’s just asteroids and meteorites because Jesus said it was Stars so did Jesus know what he was talking about or

Not so here’s a place that seriously the Bible does not agree with the cosmology of this world system NASA and everybody else and what’s amazing to me let me just say this what’s amazing to me is that Christians have tried to mix the world system cosmology into Christianity and they don’t

Work you can’t do it and this is proof of that right here and I’m going to show you what the atheists do now let’s listen to this this is Neil degrass Tyson again when one of your top astrophysicists astronomers and here’s what he says about this issue of the

Stars the Bible saying the Stars Fallen people who make this case that that was the beginning and that there had to be something that provoke the beginning do you give them an a at least for trying to reconcile faith and reason um I don’t think they’re reconcilable

What do you mean well well so let me say that differently all efforts that have been invested by brilliant people of the past have failed at that exercise they just fail and so I don’t I don’t the track record is so poor that going forward I have essentially zero confidence near zero

Confidence that there would be fruitful things to emerge from the effort to reconciling so for example if you if you knew nothing about science and you read say the Bible the Old Testament which in Genesis is an account of nature that’s that’s what that is and I said to you

Give me your description of the natural world based only on this you would say the world was created in six days and that stars are just little Points of Light much lesser than the Sun and in fact they can fall out of the sky right because that’s what happens during

During the um Revelation dur one of the signs that the second coming is that the Stars will fall out of the sky and land on Earth to even write that means you don’t know what those things are you have no concept of what the actual universe is so everybody who tried to

Make proclamations about the physical Universe based on Bible passages got the wrong answer so what happened was when science discovers things and you want to stay religious or you want to continue to believe that the Bible is is un ering what you would do is you would say well

Let me go back to the Bible and reinterpret it then you say things like oh they didn’t really mean that literally they meant that figuratively so this whole sort of reinterpretation of the Fig how figurative the poetic passages of the Bible are came after science showed that this is not how things

Unfolded and so the educated religious people are perfectly fine with that it’s The fundamentalists Who who want to say that the Bible is the literally literal truth of God that and want to see the Bible as a science textbook who are knocking on the science doors of the

Schools trying to put that content in the science uh enlightened religious people are not behaving that way they’re saying yes science is cool we’re good with that and use the Bible for to get your spiritual enlightenment and your emotional fulfillment I have known serious religious people not fundamental

IST who were scared when Carl San opened his series with the words the cosmos is all that is or ever was or ever will be that scared them because they interpret that to mean then if this is it there’s nothing else no God and no life after

For for religious people many people say well God is within you or God there are ways that people have shaped this than God is an old gray bearded man in the clouds so if God is within you what I’m sure Carl would say in you in your mind

In your mind and we can measure the neurosynaptic okay now we’ll move on from here but you understand see say why does it matter because people have believed this instead of believing what’s God’s word said and many people have fallen away they’ve walked away people have said I’m

I’m not following God anymore I’m not even Christian I I watched the thing this this week where even many Bible scholars are departing because they accept science as God as like it’s infallible instead of trusting God’s word let me tell you this world is full of lies folks and I believe they’ve lied

About everything I believe they’ve lied about the sun moon stars the whole thing I can tell you this much I don’t care how many people you brought in here I’m going to stand with what Jesus said and the way he described it and what’s beautiful about it is every

Now and then he gives us the ability to prove it and um I have Joe hany here we may call him up but Joe hanvey is has been doing some amazing experiments in photography he has actually photographed the nebula with the Stars in front of them with a with a shadow behind the

Stars on the nebula showing you it’s not what you’ve been told matter of fact NASA artist do most of what you what you think is space and planets and all this stuff is NASA Artistry and I have them admitting it Disney guy worked for Disney now works

For NASA I’m going to skip this atheist right here we’re GNA now I want I’m I’m talking about how science can impact here’s a story of how science can impact young Christians and boy we do we have young Christians falling away from God left and right and one of the reasons is they

Go to school they go to college and they start getting taught this stuff that it’s not the way that the the creation is not the way God said it’s not the way the Bible says and they fall away and some it’s even worse than that they commit suicide Jesse Kilgore

Community College Student New York took his own life when he was just 22 years old he was raised at a devout Evangelical Christian household was a firm believer of Christianity until he took a biology class in college which led him to experiencing a crisis of Faith the biology Professor also

Recommended Jesse to read The God Delusion a book by written by atheist Richard Dawkins uh an atheist biologist as a result reading his book and taking the biology class he learned a lot of things which challenged and contradicted his own beliefs which caused him to abandon his faith and ultimately take his own

Life um this is is sad but it’s true and this is where we are you could I could give a lot of examples of this there’s more studies but it says right here in a a research study on the impacts of science and the discontinuation of faith and practicing Christianity in young adults

In their observations and this is the Center for Science and culture did this study they noted that 59 to 70% of students growing up with a Christian background will likely lose their faith or abandon their religion by the time they reach College an example of someone who contributes to this statistic is

Kyle Simpson who had a similar story to Jesse like like Jesse Kyle was raised a Christian but science changed his mind and beliefs when he was in his 20s although he did not take his own life like Jesse Kyle decided to discontinue his faith in Christianity so you’re

Going to tell me it doesn’t matter now I want to say this tonight I want to say hey to our atheist friends one of the reason I’m going down this road is because uh here we have Owen Morgan who has about 400,000 followers another guy the friendly atheist who has about

100,000 they’re all talking about they’re going to watch this tonight well I’m here to tell you right now I’m going to show you some fruit that when people have seen the evidence for a flat geocentric non-rotating Earth that many atheists have seen the evidence and come to Jesus as their lord

And savior they’ve come back to the [Applause] faith and I just want to say hey to them and I appreciate them sharing on their channels that we were having this debate and now they’re laughing it up but I want to tell you what they don’t realize they’re losing a lot of their atheist

Friends over what we can show them they’re coming to Jesus now let me share with you let’s go this this right here now I want to say and I put this up because I want everybody to hear but I’m going to read this so many atheists have

Come to know God they’ve come back to the Bible they’ve come to know Jesus as their lord and savior and they didn’t do it because all of a sudden they just started believing the Bible out of the blue or somebody showed them something another another lie or another trick or

Another you know another fairy tale I said many atheists and scientists think that those of us who believe a geocentric stationary Flat Earth only came to this belief via our religion or crackpot YouTube videos but that is not the case it was seeing the evidence of real experiments doing the math making

Our own conclusions from our own observations about the nature of our world that brought most of us to this understanding of creation for 99% of us it was after seeing the evidences that we all realized what the Bible taught that the Bible taught these truths all

Along and it is that that journey of examining the evidences that show we do actually live on a geocentric stationary Flat Earth that has brought many atheist agnostics to Faith in the Bible and thus finding God Almighty our Lord Jesus Christ as their creator and personal

Savior now I want to show you we’re not afraid of science we actually go out with high Zoom cameras and telescopes and lasers and actually do test in different climate time you know in different uh weather and different conditions to see what we can prove and

I’m going to show you some of that in a minute but I want to here’s a testimony that this is Paul lber from Sweden he was raised an atheist uh became a mechanical engineer and began looking into some conspiracies and and came across Flat Earth and he laughed at

It and then well you’ll hear his story it’s only two minutes I was an atheist 39 years have G gone through to universities um schooling everything um never had really an interest in God uh never really was a god hater but of course I had other issues like idols

And stuff and like all atheists have in Sweden basically all uh people are atheists 80% atheists 15% Muslims nowadays and um whatever 5% others I was uh one of the atheist of course like all um 2011 I started investigating what is wrong with the world why is the world

Going absolutely crazy land at Flat Earth around 2015 yes April 2015 just laughed it off think okay this is just completely crazy but after a month I looked into it anyway and uh thought I’ll get a good laugh but no I I saw okay there’s no way that it’s a bow

Um and then I got interested in what does the bible actually say oh if if it was right about that already from the start maybe it’s right about the other parts Also regarding the endings turned out yes it was gave my life to Christ in uh

2016 and uh yeah uh didn’t look back um the world is just so filled with lies it’s actually quite sickening and disturbing but uh we have one hope that’s Jesus and his word and I’m grateful for it I hope this helps someone take care God bless

Bye-bye now I love this Paul flew in 2017 all 6’7 of him flew all the way from Sweden because he wanted a pastor that believed the Bible to baptize him in water amen but he’s not the only one this is saurin from Denmark he actually heads up

The doot Europe page now but he was a complete atheist I want you to hear his story how you guys doing my name is sain I’m from Denmark I used to be an atheist up until 2015 when I mockingly began researching Flat Earth and when I had researched that for

About a year and a half I came to the realization that we’ve been lied to that the Earth was in fact a flat stationary plane and not a spinning water ball that opened up the possibility of a Creator which in turn shattered my atheism and while I was researching that

Creator I came across videos from Pastor Dean and the late robke and as I was watching them they were talking about creation biblical creation which matched perfectly the research I’ve been doing and thousands of others uh on the true shape and nature of creation so my trust in the

Bible was restored where I before didn’t have any faith why I trust the Bible when you couldn’t even trust page one now I could trust page one and as I continued listening to these guys their sermons I began to understand sin and I understood the gospel and why

Jesus had to come and die on the cross for us which led me to True repentance and saving faith in Jesus Christ and his faith finished work on the cross and now I am a born again Spirit-filled disciple of Jesus praise be to God so I’m forever thankful that truth

In truth sets people free and I’m forever grateful to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ God bless you all love from Denmark Hallelujah I’m sure sauron’s watching right now one more before we move move on from this this is Chelsea she’s actually here tonight and God’s done a great thing I

Was a stun atheist for about 15 years and it was a dark and despairing worldview that I wouldn’t wish on anyone but it always left me wondering what’s the point when I found this little corner of Hope and mystery and the possibility of Life out there and I could fill a library with

All the science fiction that I read over the years trying to build the void of atheism and Co and like so many others I ask myself what else are they lying about and it turns out the answer is everything it turns out the world is run

By a bunch of Satan loving Liars who have us so Bamboozled that we don’t even know where we are and it turns out that we’ve been living in their science fiction you see when you tell a story that begins with something exploding out of nothing out of Aaj jillion years and

A whole lot of chance you don’t need God for that story to make sense in fact you have to do some disingenuous gymnastics to write God into that story but if you see that we’re really living in something like a cosmic terrarium we can’t avoid the conclusion that we’re in somebody’s

Terrarium try to write God out of that story I dare you so there was only a few short steps for me from the mind-blowing realization of the Flat Earth to the god of the Bible I thought okay there really isn’t any evidence to support the heliocentric

Globe model short of CGI but why would they construct a li scale and how the biblical worldview is the only worldview that can truly make sense of that level of deception the level of deception that has fooled multiple Generations into believing that we’re on a spinning water ball in the vacuum when

Everything in our experience screams the opposite that level of deception demands that we confront the existence of evil because that’s what their science fiction is and that’s its purpose people ask me what does it matter what shape the Earth is well the truth always matters no Li is benign but I’d asked

Them would they construct such a massive lie for no reason no way this massive lie has an equally massive purpose from beginning to end it’s the very foundation of the scientific worldview that aims to make God irrelevant and I’d bet the farm that it plays a critical role in the great

Deception in the times ahead in my experience had I not come to the truth of creation I can’t imagine what else would have not only shaken me from my atheism but also brought me to through the God’s word i’ heard the gospel and grew up in the Bible Belt but

I could not reconcile that world view with the one that i’ had already implicitly accepted which told me that the world is a meaningless accident I had to First understand the very Foundation of their supposedly scientific creation story as a lie before I could come to the truth of the Gospel of Jesus

Christ at the end of the day I think the inherent cynicism of the heliocentric universe that that exploded from nothing is fundamentally incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus do you really think that our creator who’s so personal that he offered himself as a sacrifice so that

We may be redeemed matches up with some behind thes scenes intelligent designer who had a veiled hand behind a big bang that created an ever expanding Universe where there’s no such thing as up or down I don’t I believe we are very carefully intentionally and lovingly placed in a

World is not just some random piece of a vast creation but it’s the very heart of creation itself I believe that he is not in heaven we vaguely imagine as somewhere else that he his throne is just right above us he is invested in us that much the

Bible makes clear and so I pray that you reject the lie that would have you believe [Applause] otherwise now literally in my book like clay under the seal I have one chapter dedicated to atheist come to Jesus and it’s testimony after testimony and for the sake of time I’m not going

To read them all here but you see I could do this I could do this for two hours on atheist that have come to Jesus because of understanding and seeing the evidence for a flat stationary geocentric non-rotating Flat Earth as our government documents want to say um I’m I’m going to speed through

This I want to I want to say these are reasons people that that people believe that we live on a spinning ball or sphere orbiting the Sun in an ever expanding Universe these are really the main reasons the boats disappearing from the bottom up we say that doesn’t happen

Pictures from space we found out that that’s a lot of fakery fishe lens photography that creates a fake curve all the time the alleged shadow of the Earth on the moon surface during the lunar eclipse that’s easy to deal with folkal penum I mentioned that earlier erases who probably didn’t even exist

But his experiment works on a flat plane with a closed Sun exactly so there’s no sense in that um using that as an argument circum navigation you can go around your neighborhood or you can go around a sphere you can do it either way

And end up in back in the same place um and satellites and GPS I have a great deal about what those are from not only uh Declassified government documents but just available documents and of course grandio scientific explanations now I’m just going to show you this of course

We’ve all seen this if the boat went over a curve there’d be no way to bring it back but as you see when you zoom in the boat’s there now if it’s over a curve you can’t see it nothing would enable you to see that boat but it I don’t care how powerful

Your Zoom but when you zoom in it’s the The Horizon’s empty and you zoom in and the boats there they’re not disappearing over a curb they’re just getting out of our ability to see it so that is another misn here’s the video I showed you about about perspective there’s a guy walking

Away and you notice that his feet are disappearing and then it goes up to his knees and then up to his W he’s walking on a flat football field he’s disappearing from the bottom you know Tyson all these people say oh you want to know how watch boat Over the Horizon

I mean they still say this and then and and I can’t believe that they don’t know this I think they intentionally see so you see coming back that’s just how our vision our eyes look it’s not a curve Surf and of course here’s uh so you’re

Telling me you can drag that ship back over the curve with that that little telescope there now I don’t have time to go through I’m going to just run through these very quickly but we know that we’ve caught them photoshopping clouds and stuff they create these images of Earth they’re not real pictures

Uh even the guy who did the Blue Marble says it’s photoshopped because it has to be I mean it’s ridiculous um NASA artists do the pictures of the worlds this is just and this is how here’s here’s two pictures they tell us are from space of the earth

I want y’all to look at North America which one is correct because the one the one there the big one seems like North America’s taken up a big section of the ball there much bigger than it really is so we we get these kind of things and they want us to trust them

But it’s just impossible um here’s where they faked the uh you know the big picture we had for years was Apollo 17 and Apollo 17 they said you know they’re at the Moon 240,000 miles away and they can see the whole Earth but look they only got a

Picture of that little circle there the they didn’t get the whole lit side of the earth so it proves that they weren’t high enough to get it that they faked it um finally the element that seals their fate and this is where they F I’m not

Even going to play it you can go this go watch a funny thing happened on the way to the Moon Bart saell he shows the picture footage how many you want to see it y’all want to see it real quick all right I’ll back up and show you just so

You know you can’t trust them here we go I’ll play it finally the element that seals their fate of all the footage of Apollo 11 requested from NASA over a 5-year period one g was discovered just before the completion of this documentary an old real received by

Mistake it contains the raw or unedited footage of the crew of Apollo 11 Michael Collins Edwin Aldren Jr and Neil Armstrong staging part of their mission for nearly an hour In Living Color with exceptionally clear behind the scenes audio of conversations discussing the techniques used to achieve a dising ous

Picture depicting the Earth at a distance in order to falsely demonstrate their far Journey from it and their ability to survive passing through the Van Allen radiation belts it cannot be misconstrued that this staging was done for some other reason prior to the mission for the real

Itself is slated and dated July 18th 19th and 20th 1969 the very days of the mission when they were said to be a again the illusion they are attempting to create is the Earth at a distance to demonstrate their far Journey from it and their ability to survive passing

Through the Van Allen radiation belts understand too that only about 20 seconds of this raw footage was ever broadcast to the public and these conversations discussing their deception were believed to be private until now here they discussed that these television Transmissions were in fact not broadcast cast live as everyone

Believed they were first screened and edited for playback later all right J we just wanted a narrative such a weekend when we get to playback we can sort of correlate what we were saying thank you very much here they discussed the fact that they have turned out the lights and have

Blocked out sunlight from entering the spacecraft through the other windows as to not cause any reflected light to fall onto the spacecraft’s wall in the foreground okay very good well we shut out the sun coming some of the other window under the space so it’s looking through

A a number one window and there isn’t any reflected light the reason this was done is so that the truth of the matter would not be revealed it is this though the federal government would have you believe that this is a view of Earth from a distance out of the spacecraft’s

Window as it nears the Moon it is not what they have ingeniously done is placed the camera at the back of the spacecraft and centered the lens on a circular window in the foreground outside of which it is completely filled with the Earth in low orbit the circumference of the window then appears

To be the diameter of the earth at a distance with the darkened walls of the spacecraft appearing to be the Blackness of space around it that is why they wanted the interior dark and blocked out the Sun from entering through the other windows here you can see the extruded

Window probably 2 in thick at the bottom this is because the Earth shine is coming in at a downward angle it also causes the Earth to appear to be an irregularly shaped Circle for you are seeing the outside of the window at the bottom and the inside of the window at

The top which together form two different sized halves of a circle subsequently this take was never used as they perfected the shot a crescent-shaped piece of black material was inset slight slly into the window to create the illusion of the Earth’s Terminator line dividing night and day it is uncannily

Convincing during this segment intended to be edited and played back later for the worldwide television audience dated July 18th 1969 Neil Armstrong condemns himself as he states that he is 13,000 mil out or halfway to the Moon as the NASA flight log also states on the

Date when he is in reality in low earth orbit of a few hundred miles in 13,000 here during another segment also intended to air after review Neil Armstrong falsely explains to the viewers how the shot is attained by putting the camera’s lens to the windows

Glass as it would have to be if they were the claimed distance away from the Earth we only have one window that has a view of the earth and it’s filled up with a TV Camera if the window was completely filled up with a TV camera as he stated

Then an astronaut’s arm would not be able to get between the camera and the window as it obviously does here in this outtake South America becomes invisible just beyond the Terminator or inside the shadow you can also notice how the astronaut operating the camera reacted to the mistake by attempting to pan away

From it all right I’m going to end that you guys we can’t this is why we can’t trust their picture finally but I’m going to go on I want to go through all this I could go through all the fakery they were using fishey lenses and all the way in the

60s I need to get to the bible stuff I can I can give you this proof all day long right here what things really jeez high altitude balloons that’s what satellites are we’re going to go down through all of this stuff G I’m going to

Go I can’t do that I got turn down that’s what they says out there you never see those satellites and debris out there until he gets to the thing I can’t ISS flyover feeds but here we go let’s let’s get to this okay no more

Sound please y’all see I had a lot of slides there’s longdistance photography of Chicago 60 miles you shouldn’t be able to see any of it all right I I can’t do it all I’m getting to the Bible because I know we we’re out of time all this stuff’s on my website folks the

Seven the Sevenfold doctrine of creation Series this is our own test I can show you we we saw spool sitting on the dock 11 miles away that’s my film right there at 11 miles away spool sitting on the dock this Earth’s not curved I can tell you that

Right now you can go with us and we can show you see let me zoom out oh now it’s kir at 11 miles there should be a seven story building bulge blocking my view of what’s sitting on the dock in the Alabama State docks there now let’s keep going I’ve done shots

We’ve catched cars going across Bridges at 13 14 miles away we know the height of them and everything so we’ve done our own experiments and we’ve had phds and physics we’ve had Engineers we’ve had army officers just let you see I’m going through Ronnie and get to the bible

Stuff I had 244 slides y’all scientists proved that that Kansas is flatter than a pancake all the way across all right let’s go here we’re we’re to the bible let me do this all right so we go back to the Genesis let’s just I’m going to go through the Bible

As quickly as I can on this stuff in the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth and the Earth was without form and void Darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters and God said

Let there be light and there was light and God saw the light that it was good and God divided the light from the darkness and God called the light day in the darkness he called night in the evening and the morning with the first day I want you to notice something he

Uses the term here first of all the waters one thing we know about water it always Finds Its level we use levels to build buildings and to keep them level and the term face is a term it’s a geometry term it’s a math term and to

Use the term face of the Earth and face of the waters is used multiple time many times in the Bible and what does a face mean an individual flat surface of a solid object but even if you want to argue that I can tell you that you look

At and you go out and you see like a pond or a lake and you see this perfect reflection upon it that perfect reflection that mirror reflection that you’re seeing cannot happen on a curved surface only on a flat one uh let’s keep going here here’s the key though here’s here’s what

What most ministers and even so-called creation Ministries get wrong is this issue is what is the firmament what does the bible teach about it God said let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters and God made the firmament

And divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and God called the firmament heaven I’m going to break this down as fast as I can for you he talks about the open firmament of Heaven our atmosphere where the birds fly the Bible

Teaches that the firmament that he’s talking about here that he calls Heaven is a solid crystalline structure that supports Waters above it that is called heaven and then there is the third heaven where the Throne of God is all right that’s your three Heavens not some

Outer space not some expanse in fact the most disingenuous and the most dishonest definition of this word is to call it some empty expanse that is not how it’s defined that is not how Moses and Joshua and everyone believed what it was even Josephus so I want to show you that we

Got to let the Bible interpret the Bible when we talk about what is the firmament right we know that God said here Genesis uh 1 16-7 about the firment divided the waters from the waters the flood happened here and it says that there were three things in 600 year of

Noah’s life in the second month the 17th day of the month the same day where all the fountains of the great deep were broken up that’s one and the windows of Heaven were open that’s two and God remembered Noah and this was at the end

Of the flood and all the cattle that was with him and God made wind to pass over the earth and the waters were ass swaged for The Fountains of the great deep and the windows of Heaven were stopped and the rain so you had The Fountains of the

Deep the windows of Heaven which opened to let that water in that was from above and then you also had rain anybody that says it was just rain is not being honest with the scriptures it’s that fact we had three sources of water at the flood what Christians believe for many

Years was a thing called the canopy Theory Dr Carl ball taught it others taught it where they said that that the firmament was a vapor canopy that was around the earth that condensed and then flooded the Earth and thus doing away with the firmament the problem with that is the Bible proves that

Wrong that the firmament collapsed as a canopy because 1350 Years After the flood the Holy Spirit moved on David to say Praise Him ye heavens and ye Waters that be above the heaven let them praise His name or praise the name of of the Lord for he commanded and they were

Created Heath established them forever and ever he hath made a decree which shall not pass so anybody that says that the firmament or this was condensed vapor canopy that disappeared is not true we have 1350 years later he’s telling us the waters are still above the heavens the Hebrew word for firmament is

The Hebrew word rakia it has a root word almost all Hebrew words have a three-letter root word so you have rakia is the word for firmament and the root word is raqa all right here’s the definition of these words according to not only what the Hebrew

Meant but also what they believed so we have to see how God uses it but firmament Rocka does not mean an empty expanse anybody tells you that the firmament or Rocka means empty expanse like uh like Dr Danny fauler of aners in Genesis he will say it’s an empty expans

That the firmament is outer space is not being true to the definition of the Hebrew word literally it says it is an expansion of plates broad plates beaten out so it’s literally the word means taking something that’s solid and beating it into a shape okay that’s the

Definition of the word uh the verb Rocka acquires the sense of beating out precious metals spreading that out in results to spread over or to Overlay all right he goes on here of course this is the brown driver Briggs it says uh extended surface solid expanse as beaten out not

An empty expanse but expanding something that’s solid over something that’s the picture of this word and the Hebrews the ancient Israelites believed that it was solid the firmament was a solid structure and called it the Vault of heaven so here’s your definition the Vault of heaven or firmament regarded by

The Hebrews as solid and supporting the waters Above This is what all of the ancient Jews believed because they beli the [Applause] Bible it’s not me I don’t know why that happens this is a intermission smoke your peace pipe come on let’s go is that happening on everybody’s stream

Uh see what wit it’s doing know that’s happening there we go we back that was called a come on which has been made firm the firmament the arch of the sky which in early times was thought to be solid a fortified place do you hear that so the word they translated so

You’re going to tell me Hebrew Scholars translating the Bible from Hebrew and the Greek Scholars translating it to make they just decided no we should pick a thin Vapor or some kind of gas no they said something that’s firm that’s solid again this is what the scriptures teach

Now let’s keep going because there’s more here’s the uh it says a an ex strong extended surface expanse beat now just showing you that it’s it’s multiple lexicons now here’s job 37:18 now this is going to show you now this may not be technically God speaking but

This is one of of the wise men of the East that were job’s friends and this is what they beli this is showing you what he believed he said to Job hast thou with him spread out the sky which is strong and as a molten Looking Glass so

What this proves you can say well that wasn’t God talking but this is what they believed and that why did they believe it because they believed the Bible they believed what God had already revealed to them but let’s keep going here is it that way now

The Hebrew word for spread out there is raqqa now here’s the definition of rqa and you need to we’re going to come back to this in a minute the definition of raqqa means to pound the Earth or as a sign of passion to expand by hammering

Pound by yes I get it by implication to Overlay with sheets of metal to make broad to spread abroad into place to stamp oh somebody say stamp or like a seal press down this is what a stamp is no a stamp is a he says this that’s

What this word Rock is now let’s look at the the ancient uh Josephus the historian now many believe that Josephus was also of a Priestly line that he was a priest and a Pharisee so he was well acquainted with what the Jews believed about creation and this is what he said

About the firmament he said and this is in book one entitled the constitution of the world and the deposition disposition of the elements Jose the first born in the first century but crossed over into the second century he said after this on the second day he got

Placed the heaven over the whole world separated it from other parts and he determined that it should stand by itself he’s talking about the firmament here that God placed it over the whole earth and that it stands by itself in fact in architecture an arch is the strongest structure that you can

Build and it also must be strong because it supports a lot of water and he says here that he placed this firmament the crystalline notice he says Crystal crystalline firmament round it and together in agreeement and agreeable to the Earth and fitted it for the giving of moisture and rain and for

The affording advantages of dues on the fourth day he adorned the heaven with the sun moon and the stars and appointed them their corsets so this right here Josephus is teaching a true Biblical Hebrew cosmology because say God placed a firmament over the Earth he says the

Sun moon and stars are in that firmament and they all move in a circuit so he’s teaching the sun moves the moon moves the Earth moves not I mean the the Stars sun and the moon but not the Earth you understand this is what the Jews taught and

Believed all right now let’s keep going does the Bible say more about this basically God made a terrarium this is the longest lasting terrarium in the world you put the right things in the terrarium guess what things flourish they live forever it’s a beautiful structure that God made now let’s go to

This we need confirmation we’ll go to the firmament is it Crystal what is it so ezekiel’s talking about it in Ezekiel chapter 1 and he says the likeness of the firmament upon their heads of the living creatures was as the color the King James use a color but the

Definition of that word is the appearance of the terrible Crystal stretched forth over their heads above and there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads and when they stood and they had let down their wings and above the firmament that was over

Their heads was the likeness of a throne as the appearance of a sapphire stone and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness and appearance of a man above it so Ezekiel in his vision he is seeing this firmament over their heads and he said the appearance of it is like

A terrible Crystal and he says and I see the Throne of God sitting upon it and I see this this this image of a man upon it so the Bible says God’s Throne sits upon this firmament that’s solid and it’s like a sea of glass I wonder where that’s in the

Bible he keep we keep on Revelation 4 it says after this I looked and behold a door was opened in heaven and the first voice which I heard was as it were a trumpet talking with me he said come up hither and I will show Thee the things

Which must be Hereafter and immediately I was in the spirit and behold a throne set in heaven and one sat upon the throne and he that sat upon the throne was the lucap like Jasper and a sardin stone and there was a rainbow round about the throne in the side of an

Emerald and the throne and Before the Throne there was a sea of Crystal of sea of glass like under Crystal this is what the Bible said that before the throne is like a sea of glass that’s like Crystal and God’s Throne is seated upon it and it’s

Interesting he says that there is an emerald rainbow or light emanating from that and I wonder what that might be but of course the scientists say that’s uh electromagnetic R that’s radiation from the sun right you know what I believe it is the glory of God coming into the Earth shining

Through the crystalline Dome that he sits upon Revelation 15 also refers to the sea of glass at the Throne of God he says I saw another sign in heaven great and marvelous seven angels having the seven last plagues and for in them is filled up the Wrath of God and I saw as

It were a sea of glass mingled with fire well guess what one of the ways you make glass is melting Sand by with fire and he says I he says now listen to this he said a sea a glass mingled with fire and them that had gotten victory over the

Beast and over his image and over his Mark and over the number of his Nam stand on the sea of glass having the hearts of God in their hands folks Benny hin the other day said heaven was a was a planet another planet out there that is a big biggest bunch of

Nonsense I ever heard in my life it’s right above us God’s Throne sits upon it and he looks at us like grasshoppers through his firmament Dome this uh Amos 96 of course the he you know the King James I love my King James Bible but sometimes they did not

Translate words pick the right words correctly I know some people I think that they were perfect translators they were not this in the Amplified you actually have to look up every word in the Hebrew in this verse to even understand what it’s talking about but listen to this this is Amplified version

Of 96 it is he speaking of God who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and has established his vaulted Dome the firmament of Heaven over the Earth he who calls the Waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the Earth the Lord is his name so here’s another

Scripture that gives you an idea of the firment now here we are the Bible teaches a circular Flat Earth the North Pole magnetic Center the Antarctica the ice walls we’ve talked about that the Earth is stationary now this is what the Bible says with a molten Dome over it

Now let’s keep going through the scriptures now anyway you go from there South we could talk about this all day long they say there’s not an ice wall but there it is 95% Antica is the ice wall boundary around the oceans I’ve got a whole sermon it’s like 2 hours long on

Just Antarctica and the ends of the Earth there it is job 2610 he’s comp pass the waters with bounds until night and day come to an end he has in inscribed a circular limit right it’s not on the face of the waters I mean you just keep going he has

Fixed a circle on the surface of the waters and on and on there’s even Declassified documents it says most of the coast of Antarctica are covered by great depths of snow and ice extend seaward beyond the shoreline terminate with vertical come on come on satellites reassemble reassemble work it out let’s go come

On thank you Matthew we will go through super chats after the debate if you’re wondering where we’re at right now they’re debating they’re doing uh they had a little back and forth conversation now they’re each giving a presentation next will see Greg’s presentation and then after that they’re going to be able

To refute each other’s presentation should be interesting to see how Greg follows this do I need to go check what wit it’s doing I guess so this is not working right now let’s see where Whit’s at is he does he just have his phone or something see

Uh Kingman context is watching uh let’s it get it let me see if this is working s upon the Circle C not dirt Circle not ball of the Earth the heavens thereof are as grasshoppers that stretches out the heavens as a c and spread them out

As a to dwell in spread out out never says sphere the definition this word is coug and here it is this is Proverbs says when he established the heaven wisdom I wisdom was there when he drew a circle upon the face of the deep when he made firm the skies above when

The Fountains and springs of the deep became fixed and strong when he set the sea its boundary so that the waters would not transgress the boundaries by his command and when he marked out the foundations of the earth so he’s talking about God drew a circle let me tell you

I built my own fire pit back when I turned 50 I’m I’m about to turn 56 I don’t know if I can still do it but I I you know what I did I wanted a perfect circle because I wanted to build a 4 foot diameter fire pit out of the we

Have stones in our property so what I did was I took a Stak and drove it in the ground I took a chain ran it down the Stak and I took another one out here two feet and I inscribed me a circle and then I started building my outer

Wall I just didn’t put a firmament on it because I wanted to cook stuff in amen now this is again what God describes let’s keep going now let’s go back to that when he says he has made the eyes strong like a molten Looking Glass now let’s go back now let’s go to

Look at Isaiah 4021 and 22 he says have you not known have you not heard has it not been told you from the beginning have you not understood from the foundations of the earth it is he that sth upon the circle cou not dur Circle not ball of the earth and the

Inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers that stretches out the heavens as a a curtain and spread them out as a tent to dwell in so when he’s talking about spreading out the heavens he’s talking about when he spread out the firmament over the Earth notice he said like a

Tent like a tent not a ball no I’ve seen SPH youall see the difference I ain’t never been in a spherical tent in my life camping and God said he made the Earth like a tent and here we are in a Tent is the floor curved [Applause] no God said do you want to know what the earth looks like it’s like a tent just like a tent and the word for tent of course here’s what an old tent like Abraham and Sarah would have been in flat

Ground spread out over them for a place to dwell in the word for tent here in the Hebrew is ohel and it means tent right but I’m going to show you something let’s let’s go to this is Psalm 19 now Psalm 19 I’m I couldn’t start out with the beginning

But this talks about how the firmament shows the handy work of the Lord all right so the context of this he’s starts out talking about the firmament and then he says this he says their line has gone out through all the Earth their words to the end of the world in them talking

About in the world our world he made for us he has set a tabernacle for the sun guess what the word Tabernacle is here it is the Hebrew word ohel which means a tent meaning that the son is in the tent amen then he goes on to talk about the

Son he says he set a tabernacle a tent for the son which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber and rejoices as a strong man to run a race his going forth is from one end of the heaven of the firment to the other and his circuit

Unto the ends of of it and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof the Bible word here for circuit guess what it is cou it’s a circle a circuit means to move in a circular path so what we believe and what we see what the Bible teaches what Joshua was saying was

Happening was the sun was moving in its circular path now get this this is this is what will blow your mind no notice it says that nothing will will will escape the heat of our son nothing somebody say nothing guess what look up nothing in the Hebrew it

Means nothing so let me ask you a question if if nothing that God made can escape escape the heat of our sun how are there galaxies millions and millions of light years [Applause] away the Bible says the sun is in the tent inside the firmament closer to us

Smaller moving in a circular path path and that nothing that God made for us escapes the heat of it so y’all got to deal with that one right there big time here’s another one there it is an example of it in the tent now is there

Evidence to show that the sun is inside the tent inside the firmament closer to us smaller we have it every day you you’re you’re going to start watching some of you who are Skeptics that don’t believe this you’re going to walk outside one day and you’re going to see

This you’re going to see it with the sun you’re going to see it with the moon but you’re going to see the clouds behind the Sun and the Moon you’re going to see this I have photograph this if the Sun is 93 million miles away there’s no way there should ever be a

Cloud behind it not ever and notice that job said there in 37:21 now men see not the bright light or the Sun that in the clouds which the wind passes away he’s trying to tell us where is the bright light he made the great the great light where is it in

Here with the clouds and sometimes we catch the clouds behind the sun even photographers who aren’t trying to catch it look at that and then somebody want to say oh is this the Sun so bright It’s Just an Illusion and then somebody puts a negative filter

On it and proves it right there clouds are in front and behind I’ll tell you something else about a sun 93 Million Miles Away Jesus let me tell you there’s more it doesn’t make hot spots if that sun is 93 million wi this is a high altitude balloon that reached

110,000 ft if that sun is 93 million miles away how is there a hot spot directly under it there should be even light across those [Applause] clouds this could have over and over again look at the hot spot there above it this is just a photographer who’s not

Even a flat earther The Hot Spot above the the clouds right there if that Sun’s 93 million miles away the light Ray should be coming in evenly and there’s no way there should be hotpots you might get refraction you might say oh the light rays are refracted but wait a

Minute now that’s a hot spot meaning that that’s close to it it’s just like anybody that knows Lighting in theater knows that you got to deal with hot spots meaning where the light’s right on it right I could do this all day long but there’s evidence and this is why

Atheists are come to Jesus because of this kind of evidence the sun is not 93 million miles away it’s just not and these are pictures for people who are not flat Earth biblical cosmology Believers I could do it all day long look at that it happens with

The Moon too regularly in fact this Reddit post this is a person saying I went out and saw the moon and it looks like there’s clouds behind it there’s no how is that possible and people were like It’s Just an Illusion you’re not really seeing what you think you’re

Seeing that’s their that’s an excuse they have not you’re not really seeing what you think you’re seeing look at there clouds in front and behind the moon I have photograph this myself now let’s move on to this the Bible is very clear about this weak evidence weakest you want to

Believe we’re on a spinning flying water ball and as you call yourself a Christian you got to deal with these verses right here and this verse we’re going to start with a few of them here but it’s pretty clear Zechariah 111 and here’s what it says and the the the

Angel that was talking with Zechariah answered and said and he said and the angel answered of the and they answered the angel of the Lord among the Myrtle trees say we have walked to and fro through the Earth these are these entities that have gotten permission and

They said behold all the Earth sth still and is at rest somebody say all the Earth sth Still Still and is at rest at rest how is it wob in spinning flying and in danger of asteroids hitting it some people say oh that’s just talking about the people of the earth no

He said the Earth sth still and is at rest and guess what I look these words up in he Hebrew guess what it means sit still at rest not moving in fact the word in the Hebrew actually y here means to sit down especially as a judge or sitting in ambush in

Quiet all right now this is what this is so you’re if if you’re going to say no I believe the Earth is spinning and it even wobbles say it spins and it’s flying through an ever expanding Universe then then you just got to throw this out right here but is that the only

Place God said it no it’s not so the Earth is not moving here we go 1st Chronicles 16:30 for fear before him all the Earth the world also shall be stable that it be not moved now now literally I heard Dr Danny fauler of answered in Genesis say well

This just means like David when he said he would he wouldn’t be moved no we’re not talking about a man and his emotion or his religious beliefs and his stance we’re talking about the Earth he said the Earth is stable he said it can’t that it be not

Moved Psalm 931 the Lord reth he is clothed with Majesty the Lord is clothed with strength wherewith he had GED himself the world is established that it cannot be moved that means 1.2 million hour cannot be moved what did Satan come in God said the world still at rest said it cannot

Be moved and Satan comes in with a theory says it’s spinning flying wobbling moving yet Einstein admitted that there’s no experiment that can be done to prove that the Earth is moving but yet he said I still believe it’s moving right so Einstein knew you couldn’t prove that the Earth was

Moving now here’s Psalm 104 1-5 he says blessed and affectionately praise the Lord oh my soul oh Lord my God you are very great you are clothed with Splendor and Majesty you are the one who covers yourself with light as with a garment who stretches out the heavens like a

Tent curtain here it is again multiple scriptures the Bible says let by let by two or three Witnesses let every word be established so here it is again the world he stretched out like a tent to dwell in who lays his beams in the upper chambers in the waters above the

Firmament that’s actually exactly what the Amplified says who makes the clouds his Chariot who walks in the wings of the wind who makes the winds his messenger flames of fire his ministers those are angels so those are literal things he said he established the Earth

On its foundation so that it will not be moved forever and ever spinning flying gyrating processing so see I’m an earth is still guy and then you got the Earth is moving guy over here it’s pretty plain how is Greg gonna then it takes us to Job 38 so if

You think we take verses out of context Job 38 you can’t when when you’re talking about creation God himself speaks to job and the context of that conversation is the nature of God’s creation God himself speaking to job he said the Lord answered job out of the

Whirlwind and said who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge G up thy loins like a man and I will demand of thee and answer thou me where were you where was thou when I laid the foundations of the earth declare if thou Hast understanding who

Ha laid the measures thereof if thou knowest or who has stretched the line upon it whereupon the foundations thereof are fastened or who laid the Cornerstone so the context of this verse is clear this passage is about creation and God says he has foundations to the earth now if you believe the spinning

Ball heliocentric nonsense you believe that we have an iron molten core that is that is hotter than the sun like 13,000 degrees with liquid magma around it and now they say there’s even water around down in there somewhere does any of that sound like a foundation or stable or solid

No No in fact they said that this here here’s their example they say we have a lead nickel core haven’t you ever checked the the melting point of lead and nickel it’s way lower than 13,000 degrees but of course they’ll say well it’s because of pressure it’s always

There a little excuse to get out of something but it’s it’s crazy God said he laid foundations of the earth let’s keep reading he literally said to sink them down just like you would I used to be in construction we used to have to dig deep foundations and they were poured very specifically

So he talks about it now I need to speed on through here you see it right there the sink press oh like a seal too he talks about the foundations now here’s 1 Samuel 28 it says he raises up the poor Out of the Dust he lifted up the beggar

From the dung Hill and set them among princes to make them inherit the Throne of Glory for The Pillars of the Earth are the Lords and he has set the world upon them does that does that does the HELOC centry capern model sound like he’s setting something

On pillars on a foundation that’s stable not moving still in at rest I I I I don’t know you know see this is what happened to me you talk about what happened in the beginning I just started believing this I didn’t filter it anymore through the world’s nonsense why not they know everything

Science now we see the world stilling at rest and I mentioned a minute ago about the Michaelson Morley experiment it says Michaelson Morley found the Earth wasn’t moving by using the speed of two light beams against one another the null results was one of the greatest puzzles

Of physics at the end of the 19th century he says the possibility was that there would be the velocity would be zero and no fringe shift would be expected but this implies that the Earth is somehow a preferred object so number one they discovered that the Earth is

Really the Center the preferred object of the whole creation and then he says that it was not what moving and of course it was they did find one sixth movement of again only one six of what it what they said it was supposed to be moving the speed it’s supposed to be

Moving they found one six well that’s the movement again of The Ether current and I can’t get into that but here we go let’s go let’s get some this this here’s one of these documents I’m going to read this is this is one of these documents I

Dug up this is uh let’s see which one this is oh there it is the general equations of motion for a damaged asymmetric aircraft now what’s interesting this is point one and point two this is one of my favorites because here in introduction one it says in

Order to analyze the Dynamics of damaged aircraft the dynamic equations of motion must reflect the underlying pH physics somebody say must reflect the underlying physics so if they’re going to study damaged aircraft and how it how it things happen to it in the sky it says that the dynamic equations of motion

Must properly reflect the underlying physics in the next part he says this is just part two that was in part one he says in this paper the rigid body equations of motion over a flat non-rotating Earth are [Applause] developed now if in point one you say that studying this must reflect the true

Proper underlying physics and the next thing you say all of our equations of motion are based on a flat non-rotating Earth how else can you how else can you read that and if there’s not a flat non-rotating Earth why would it be in here why would this unicorn be

Here I’m talking about the fairy tale unicorns unicorns Were Real by the way they were but not the fairy tale unicorn y’all see that let’s read it again in order to analyze the Dynamics of damag aircraft the dynamic equations of motion must properly reflect the underlying physics in this paper the

Rigid body equations of motion over a flat non-rotating Earth are developed so here we have the Bible saying that the Earth does not move it’s stable it’s at rest we have the Michaelson Morley experient proving the Earth does not move that that just blew up physics in

The end of the 19th early 19th century there and then I mean the late 19th cury and then we have a government document about how damaged aircraft work and they admit that the the the proper underlying pH physics and equations are based on a non-rotating flatter Earth that’s three

Witnesses y’all y’all hear me that’s the Bible true scientist and a technical manual about aircraft three Witnesses now I know some people love to pull this one out so I’m going to deal with this oh about the Earth hanging on nothing what is that talking about right let’s just go ahead

And get this out of the way right here’s what it is King James version says hell is naked before him and destruction hath no covering this is job 266 and 7 he stretcheth out the north over the empty place and hangeth the Earth upon nothing now the the the

Capern aans the the ones that want to have this space Oh see see see see that’s that’s space that’s we’re hanging on nothing no no no my friend you must dig a Little Deeper because the Hebrew words bear out what this means and again we have to

Take context you can’t take verse seven you got to take verse six so he’s talking about hell or shol or the Underworld the underground what do we know is in hell we know there’s there’s there’s different degrees of hell and I’m not talking about Dante I’m talking

About Bible degrees but we we know that we have different words and there’s torturous for the deepest part of hell and then we know that Satan is going to be bound when Jesus returns Satan’s going to be bound and placed in the somebody say bottomless pit bottomless

Pit which is in Hell which is the lowest part of Hell okay now what this here is saying and let’s go the Amplified does it really well but the Amplified Bible and looking at the original Hebrew word here when it says he stretches out the north over the

Empty place where he hangs the Earth upon nothing when it says the word for Aon clarifies this question about the Earth allegedly hanging upon nothing an empty place is the word toou now toou in Hebrew toou valo was used in the creation it says the Earth was without

Form and void and darkness covered the Deep Well if you look this word up it means a desolation destruction chaos and uh I can’t get into all that right there but he says that it’s pronounced toou right is chaos Wilderness waste confusion place of vanity or emptiness the Hebrew word

Here upon is all which can be translated above or over and so in the Amplified it says shol the place of the Dead is naked before God and abadon the place of Destruction has no covering for his eyes it is he who spreads out the northern Skies over the emptiness and hangs the

Earth over nothing see there is this is what we believe nobody knows how deep the Earth is God said the heaven for height and the Earth for depth nobody would know it’s unsearchable unknowable the deepest hole ever dug is about eight miles the Russians did it we don’t know anything

Beyond that but at some point down there in Hell there is nothingness there’s a place of vanity and emptiness there’s a bottomless be chain for a thousand years and God stretched it out and if you guys saw my Mountain of God in the North in Paradise series some of you if you Haden

Seen that you need to watch it you understand that God’s Throne is right above the North Star the North Pole is right there and where we’re taught the Bible shows us that it’s really underneath underneath there is where paradise and Hell starts right there so it makes sense this verse makes

Sense when you know the truth of the shape of the earth and the nature of things but taking this into context it’s not talking about hanging the Earth in some empty space it’s talking about hanging the Earth o the Earth’s is just over this place of nothingness

So we deal with that now we get to Joshua I’m just going to say what do he say son stand still upon gibian and the Moon in the valley of aelon and the sun Stood Still and the moon stayed and the people avenge themselves upon their

Enemies is it not written in the book of Jer so the son here’s the Bible says so the sun Stood Still in the midst of Heaven that means it was it was moving not the Earth so Joshua here is teaching a completely different cosmology than the world and many of you have

Accepted so the sun Stood Still in the midst of heaven and hasted not to go down about a whole day and here’s what’s interesting he said the sun was over gibian and the Moon Over the Valley of aelon do you know what that means the sun and the moon were over specific

Places that were pretty close to each other H it’s amazing exactly east and west of each other look at here there’s gibian there comes our moving sun and there’s our moon down over here in the valley of aelon he can see them both and what’s interesting is that happens to us every

Night in their circuits they catch up with each other once in a while and that’s why you’ll see the sun over here sometime in the sky and the moon right there by it but Joshua knew exactly what areas of the earth they were over and that’s what the Bible

Says can we keep going I can prove here we go let’s get let’s let’s go on let’s do I got more illustrations I’m going through them the sun doesn’t go down we talked about that it says to go or come now there’s gibian there it is again goodness I must have doubled up

Some slides here by here we go we’re getting through them yes it was first AR was of course these but a movie I saw type of rays coming down shows the sun is not not far away I can’t even get into that right now all right I’ve covered this the Bible says

The sun moves in a circuit to the ends of the Earth there’s nothing hid from the heat thereof there’s your circuit means course or path here’s the Hebrew word for circuit there a revolution that is the sun’s course circuit here’s another thing that’s impossible in their model and I’m trying

To go quick y’all but it’s it’s it’s a lot the sun he says here Ecclesiastes the sun arises and that word arise just simply means it’s not elevation it means the Rays begin to shoot forth when it when it comes close to us and then he

Says the sun goeth down again that’s the word bow that just means to come and go it doesn’t mean to go up and down and he says that the sun though hasteth to his place where he arose mean he goes back to the same place how is that possible in a heliocentric

Universe how can the sun they say the sun’s moving through this universe does it ever expand how can it ever return to the place it was before it never can that’s your answer I don’t know why this keeps happening to this channel come on let’s

Go it will be back up I’m pretty sure I got our scorecard for Greg lock ready we’ll go like that we’ll keep track of his nonsensical lies and made up garbage come on let me reload this can we get any love here specified now thank you and he’s talking about lunar solar

Disturbances in motion of artificial Earth satellites and he says this here it is assumed that the sun moves along a circle near the center of a planet satellite system of the masses he says an analysis is made of the motion of the satellit characterize any centricity he says an inclination of its orbit

Relationing to the plane of the sun’s motion he says the sun’s motion he says the he says the sun is moving in a circle this is a Russian scientist in a top secret document says the sun is moving has motion and it moves in a circle isn’t that amazing that God said

In psalm 19 the sun moves in a circle now the shape of the earth I know we’re hey Pastor you told me we could do it six hours that’s the best one right there the clay seal is [Applause] good I’m trying but I have to get it all

In all right now this is the shape of the earth now of course everybody knows my book is entitled like clay under the seal from this this verse in job 3814 now I know he’s going to try to attack that so I’m going to deal with this I’m

Going just destroy any possible attack on there because number one the context of Job 38 is creation many Bible scholars translators have have translated that this is talking about the Earth being or taking shape like clay under the seal but I’m going to give you some other Witnesses

From scripture that this is exactly how God made the Earth or shaped the Earth but here’s a few verses we’ll look at them here’s the King James says it is turned talking about the Earth is turned it’s not talking about spinning because he said it means changeed that that

Hebrew word means change like you would change a potato into mashed potatoes right or like a person who was clean the word is used when they got leprosy it says they their skin changed okay so it’s not saying spinning he says it’s turned or changed

As clay to the seal or the signate ring and so clay was a glump of clay or seal and they would press it down with a signant ring all right so that gives you a flat surface with upturned edges there um the complete Jewish Bible anybody think the Jews know how to translate

Their own Hebrew scriptures I would think the Hebrews would know that no Hebrew would get us the Hebrew correct okay so here’s the complete Jewish Bible says then the Earth is changed like clay under the seal so they even got it in there and then of course

The Amplified Bible says the Earth is changed like clay into which the seal is pressed the NIV says the Earth is Tak shape like clay under the seal so there you have all these several different translations and you have the definition of The Words which I could go into now

Here’s the verses that confirm this because the Bible says in the mouth of two or three Witnesses let every word be established amen so this idea of the earth taking shape like clay under a signant ring or seal being pressed down flat this image is also what we get in

Other verses about creation but you have to look up the Hebrew words going to give it to you here so Isaiah 425 says this thus saith God the Lord Yahweh Jehovah that created the heavens and stretched them out notice it says he that spread forth the Earth and that which cometh

Out of it he that giveth breath unto the people upon it and spirit to them that walk therein when he says he that spread it out just remember that he spread forth the Earth another scripture Isaiah 44:24 thus sayith the Lord thy Redeemer he that formed thee from the wound I am

The Lord that maketh all things that stretcheth forth the heavens alone that spreadeth abroad the Earth again he says that term now no it says by myself I’m going to show you a mistake that King James makes here he says who stretches out the Earth by himself do you know I

Can read a little Hebrew you know what and I’ve got my Hebrew scholar here one of them our Dr johnz strazz get it right there PhD from Fuller Theological Seminary he’ll tell you this too this right here when it says he spreadeth abroad the Earth in Isaiah 44

By myself is not in the original it’s at my in Hebrew at my means upon or in relation to the waters maim is the Waters of creation so he’s saying that he spread the Earth in relation to the waters just like he says in Genesis 1 let’s keep going he says and then

There’s Psalm 1366 it says to him that stretches out the Earth above the waters for his Mercy endures forever so let’s look at this term spread out cu three times here he says he spreads out the Earth meaning telling you this is how I did it like if a woman’s rolling out

Some dough she says I spread out the dough but how did she do it right he going to tell you how he did it right here is the word it’s that word again rqa where we get the word rakia from but the word Rocka the verb where he spread

Out the Earth this is what it means look at this Brown driver Briggs lexicon also the strongs beat somebody say stamp spread out spread out press down y’all see it stamp stamp is just another term for guess what a seal but he uses the term stamped pressed down so literally you

Could read those verses if you back up to those verses that he stamped forth the Earth that he pressed it down this is the same picture so three times you have this there it is to beat to stamp to beat out to spread out guess what you can buy these they’re called stamp

Kits you see it go ahead and put it back up there stamp what’s the definition of stamp bring down one’s foot foot upon heavily on the ground or on something on the ground he stamped his foot in frustration impress a pattern or Mark wax stamp kit there it is right

There that’s what the word stamp means so we have those verses now I’m going to end well hopefully we’ll end on this but here here’s if you want confirmation from the New Testament I was getting prepared to do a mar a message on the marriage supper of the

Lamb I wasn’t even studying creation or cosmology and I was reading this and I’ve read it many times out of the King James ver he says when the thousand years were expired this is revelation 27-9 when the thousand years are expired Satan shall be loosed out of his prison

And she go he shall go out to deceive the Nations which are in the four quarters of the earth Gog and Magog to gather them together to battle the number of whom is as the sand of the sea and they went up on the breadth of the

Earth and they compassed the camp of the Saints about in the blood City and fire came down from God from heaven and devoured them so this is talking about the last rebellion after the 10,00 year Millennial Reign now notice he uses term the breadth of the earth here now now it’s

What hit me the Holy Spirit hit me and I’m reading this and I’m like he could have just said that they came out upon the Earth no need to put the breadth of the earth there right it’s actually like an added word I’m like why is that even there and I’d

Never looked it up in all my 36 years of studying the Bible never looked it up so I looked it up start looking up these Hebrew and Greek words it gets dangerous because the word breath here is the word Platos H sound familiar plateaus what are plateaus they’re a

Flat land right well the word the root and and notice in in your Greek dictionary you’re going to it’s going to lead you down the root words and it says the word here is Platos which means width or breadth Platos we know what it means he says it’s from the though 4116

In your Greek dictionary so let’s go to 4116 which is the where the root word platus platus what does platus mean in the Strong’s Greek dictionary to spread out flat so literally the verse in Revelation 20 say they went up upon the Flat Earth That’s the definition of the words in the original language here’s where it gets even crazy notice it says that that platus has a root word platus says it comes from 4111 right so let’s go to 4111 and see what it says here’s the the the word 411 here’s

The word in Greek listen to what it means here PLO to form mold something from clay or [Applause] wax literally the Potter fabricates or shapes something from clay or wax that’s flat that’s that word the breadth of the Earth this is why you have to study the

Bible deeper than many of us have over the years we lose so much understanding when we don’t go back to the original Hebrew and Greek and even sometimes to the verb tenses of the the Greek language and there they’re all three together and I’m going to just end with

This part I’m not going to show you but there have been two astronauts that were interviewed one the general highly decorated M law heresi who recently died he was a only polish Cosmonaut for the Soviet Union he was asking an interview right here you’ve been there is the

Earth really a sphere a sphere hanging in outer space and his answer was the Earth is flat as some may expect I didn’t expect this question I assure you it’s flat and there was another Russian cosmina who was awarded to be the hero of the Soviet

Union he said we haven’t been space if someone claims that we have been it’s not true it’s not the truth these are two astronauts I believe in the days ahead these are whistleblowers I believe in the days ahead we’re going to have more whistleblowers that come out and tell the [Applause]

Truth folks I have given you the witness of scripture the witness of scientists astronauts but even those don’t matter the the word of God is clear God made the Earth still and it rests immovable stable upon pillars upon a foundation and in God’s creation there

Is an up and a down Jesus ascended up where is that where is up for the poor Australians Heaven is up hell is down that is a simple concept does it work on a spinning water ball all right but God said he made the Earth with a firmament over it and it’s a

Solid crystalline molten glass Dome and his throne sits upon it and he says over and over the Earth is shaped like clay under a seal it’s the breadth of the Earth the Flat Earth it’s motionless this is what God describes in the scriptures and this is why many

Atheists have got saved when they’ve seen the evidence so I arrest my case God bless you not bad Dean not bad so now we get to see the real the real fireworks huh oh he is there I thought he ran away he’s here he’s going to try thank you Pastor Dean thank you

That’s good give him my hand not everybody wants to debate these issues and so that’s a big deal right that’s a big deal and so thank you so much for your thoroughness sorry we don’t really have six hours a piece we can talk about this for 20 hours of

Piece okay you’re not going to get the whole the whole ball of wax right you’re just you’re just not you’re not going to get all of it at one time there’s a lot there and so I recognize the fact that we we feel like at least that we’re

We’re feeding you with a fire hose and just trying to give you so much information and I know we had to skip through a lot so once again give him a round of applause thank you sir for your honesty I appreciate that and and it’s it’s good to have a

Little our honesty back and forth even our our snarkiness you know we we we get a little get a little uh fired up about things that’s all right that’s part of it and so I want to go into the word of the Lord and uh give you the perspective

From my vantage point theologically now uh I’m not a real big high-tech redneck PowerPoint guy and so some of the verses will come up just when I call the guys in the back they can throw them up I’m just going to I’m just a Bible guy right

So I’m going to do some flipping and this is a Bible debate so I suppose that at least a few of you have your Bible tonight and so uh I I don’t have to take as long as he did only because he he has a lot of information that I don’t have

Right a lot of information that I am not privy to as it were and so he he had a lot to say and so I just I want to kind of keep the perspective so uh we can kind of go back and forth if there’s time for that Lord willing in a few

Moments but let me just start right off the rib with the word of the Lord and then just kind of go down through some very important aspects of what I believe the Bible teaches Psalm 8 and verse one the Bible says oh Lord our Lord how

Excellent is thy name in all the Earth who has set thy Glory above the heavens out of the mouth of babes and sucklings hast thou ordained strength and the Bible says because he’s ordained strength he says unto the people that he steals he stops the Avenger he stops

Those that come against him and then he makes a very interesting declaration in Psalm chapter 8 he he begins to talk about the fact that because God made everything the way that he did because the world has been absolutely made by God I read just today as a matter of

Fact this right here he says when I consider your Heavens The Works of your fingers the moon and stars which thou Hast ordained he said the finger work the finger painting like a little kindergarten the finger painting of God is indeed the heavens the firmament the

The moon he says and the Stars it took nothing for God to make that but then he asked this question what is man that thou art even mindful of him or the son of man that thou visitest him so here’s the two different directions that we’re going I get enclosed Dome all of

That we’ll talk about that but listen my idea is not just talking about the expanse because firmament clearly means Heaven that’s what the Bible says I don’t believe it means expans it means Heaven it’s what the Bible says but I so believe in the expensiveness of God that

David looked up and he saw all the things that the Lord had created he saw all the unbelievable things in creation and said holy smokes who am I what is man that you are even mindful of me why would you even think about me amongst so many unbelievable things that

You have created the vastness the expansiveness the more and more you see I don’t believe that the universe expanding Genesis 2:1 God made it all at one time I believe our understanding of the universe is expanding and those are two very different ideas you understand and so we have to recognize the fact

That yes we believe that we are the cream de la cream of God’s creation okay he didn’t die for Birds he didn’t die for rocks he didn’t die for planets he didn’t die for atmospheric conditions Jesus died for the sins of the world so yes I understand that we are the center

Of creation I understand that we are the darling apple of God’s eye but even in the Bible the Man created by God said holy smokes creation is so much bigger than me why would you even think about me so this to be honest is not about creation we don’t

Disagree on creation I don’t believe in a Big Bang Theory I don’t believe in millions of years I believe in six literal days of creation I don’t believe in any of that I don’t believe that we’re from monkeys I don’t believe any of that stuff okay all of that’s

Nonsense we know that that is evil we know that that is wrong that is science falsely so-called that is Romans chapter 1 suppressing the TRU truth and the man of God said that I get all of that and so really at the end of the day there

There was a lot of talk about creation but not really a lot of talk about yay or nay about Flat Earth we we believe in creation just because I believe in a model that is different than yours which I believe as I show morning is biblical does not mean that I’m an

Evolutionist I don’t believe in evolution I I I don’t believe that that science is greater than the Bible because the Bible’s not a science book but it’s scientifically accurate you understand it’s not a math book but it’s mathematically accurate and so to begin the debate with really what

I would consider a straw man argument of it’s about cre yeah of course it’s about creation we don’t disagree on creation we don’t even disagree on the way that God did creation we know in the beginning God created the Heaven heavens and the Earth and the Earth was void and

Darkness was upon the face of the deep and the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters and God said let there be light and there was light nobody in this room unless you’re lost would deny the reality of that biblical fact and so we’re really not fighting

Creation we’re fighting let me just use the word cosmology right we’re fighting the shape of the earth okay so I’m going to get to the Bible but it’s interesting because so many times people say well this is what all of the early Believers believe no it’s not it’s what some

Ancient Hebrews believe absolutely it is and they like to use that little picture from logo software look logo software is promoting you know this particular idea I called logo software and I said look I got to ask you guys a question they sent me actually a statement back an email

Statement that I have in my phone right now and they say we absolutely do not believe in what they say anti-science when it comes to the Flat Earth theory we just have to put things in there based off of what people actually did believe at one time until they began to

Understand through observation through experimentation and through what you guys would say what you can clearly see experience and feel and so it’s not that some people did not have that cosmology but please know this because here’s where flat or earther sometimes on YouTube uh want to want to change the

Game a little bit they tell you that it was the cosmology no no it was a cosmology because a lot of people believed that the Earth was on the back of a turtle yeah or it was square or it was triangle or it was and some people

Still believe this to this day an infinite plane over and over and over some people and I’m not saying the people in here so you ain’t got a boom me but some people have the Fantastical notion that if you could somehow get to what they refer to as the edges of the

Earth when you go through one side like Pac-Man you come back in the opposite side now we’ve gone into science fiction realm okay now we’ve gone far beyond the reality of the Bible and then they’re like well you know that’s just how things operate in space well you don’t

Believe in space so you don’t get that argument you understand right nobody believes that and so the Bible is extraordinarily clear I believe and so let me say this in Acts 17 and verse 26 you know the Bible says we are all men made of one blood for to dwell on

All the face of the Earth the times are appointed and here’s what God says and he hath given us the bounds of our habitation mhm that’s why I don’t believe in aliens we age with that right I I don’t believe in ET and Little Green Men I do believe

That it’s going to be a last days deception that they are going to say oh look what the aliens came ain’t no aliens you believe in that nonsense you need to quit smoking meth okay you don’t there’s no such thing as that but I want

You to understand that at the end of the day right here according to the Bible he bound our habitation my question is why does he have to specifically tell us that our habitation to Earth has been bound because the other planets yes I believe in them that he created are not

Habitable they were just built because the heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament the firmament the heaven showeth his handiwork and the handiwork according to what the Bible just said in Psalm chapter number 8 that David was so mesmerized by the handiwork was the moon

And the stars and all that God created we have been bound to inhabit only the Earth and so from that vantage point that makes us the center of God’s cre cretion but the Earth itself is not the center of a orbital Galaxy it’s just not there’s no way around that fact I

Know I won’t get nearly as much Applause and the reason our people aren’t going to applaud because they’re just trying to figure out what I’m going to say because they never heard some of this stuff so they’re just trying to hold on for dear life and Buckle in and hope I

Don’t break a microphone tonight right and so they they can be as quiet as they want to you see I don’t have to have claps I don’t have to have validation I got 66 books right here that’ll validate everything thing that’s about to come out of my mouth 1189 chapters right

79132 words okay the the Bible is going to tell us everything we need to know now I I’m about to pull something out here and you’re going to have to start flipping around with me and help me out here but I want to go further and prove

That about we’re the only one that’s inhabited but we’re certainly not the only one you know what Hebrews 11 says it’s a faith chapter in Hebrews 11 and verse three says by faith we know that the world’s plural we’re framed by the word of God he does not say by faith we know

That the world he said by faith we know that the worlds what about apostrophy multiple were framed by the word of God what about apostrophy and the reason that’s important is because acts 17 as we just said because there are multiple planets there is only one that is inhabited

Because there is only one that Jesus was sent to to die for the sins of the people that inhabit that Earth so there was a time I thought well you know maybe this is not a gospel issue and I don’t want to make it a gospel issue but when you say things open-ended

Like if you’re a Christian then you’re going to have to believe the way that we’re that that’s that’s dangerous that’s dangerous cuz you can believe flat Square spherical and go to hell with a broke back this ain’t about the shape of the earth that’s what the debate is about

Okay this is not a Salvation issue at all and I’ll go one step further I’m going to get to the word praise God I got time I am excited about atheists that if listen if you think I’m going to sit there and be like I’m not going to

Applaud man I’m happy when anybody gets born again Paul said if if Christ be preaching contention he’s going to be excited about it amen so I’m excited when people get saved but let me tell you something very interesting you got to be careful about that because what it

Sounds like is Flat Earth saved me no the gospel saved you Flat Earth may have been a highway that got you there right and that’s okay creation may be something that got you there but it didn’t save you I just have to say has there been any evidence for the globe Earth

Confused what the point of this is Globe Earth didn’t save you Jesus saved you you you didn’t put down a bottle because of the shape of the earth you put down a bottle because the shape of your heart Chang when Jesus invaded your space now I’m supposed to be not

Preaching but listen preaching preaching man you got it preaching I mean just just just think about that from so I’m not against the people that have been saved I’m glad for it but but I want you to think about something I wrote this down for later rebuttal but we rolling

Listen this is not by the way a loaded question okay this this is not a loaded question it’s important I I just want to ask P Pastor Dean just from your Vantage Point and here’s why I’m asking you this okay so this is not trick question uh

Because I think we agree on this do you do you believe or do you teach like a secret Rapture cuz I don’t okay okay great so so we agree on that there was a time I was all you know do you jump in Jacks okay right I get it and and and listen

The Rapture is not a Salvation issue okay so there was a time that that I really did you know I preach Rapture Rapture Rapture so here’s why I bring that up both he and myself do not teach a secret rapture okay but neither one of us would

Discount the number of com converts that had been reached because of things like Left Behind movies and books and teaching about a secret Rapture so neither one of us teach it but neither one of us would get up here and say well you can’t really be born

Again because you came around in you know in a uh in a false theological system no they can get born again so it’s interesting that you can use a wrong model but get right results because the results are based on the gospel not on the model you understand does that make

Sense I I hope it does you know Moses got water out of the rock both times but one time was right and one time was wrong right and so understand that I’m not against the fact that people get saved I’m glad people get back in church because of of conspiracy theories that

Led them to Flat Earth I am great with that I’m not against that okay there are people in this room for example that are glaringly a th% different from me but if we weren’t necessarily having this conversation I think we’d get along I think me and Flat Earth Day could go to

Coffee and really kind of be friends but if you put us on a YouTube channel I’m telling you wo the Earth would spin I’m telling you it’s just the facts okay ex facts and so I’m not trying to be a jerk for Jesus I’m just trying to tell you I

Thought it spins the Bible’s pretty plain and the only way a person really comes to Faith is through Jesus not through heliocentrism geocentrism and all these big fancy words that most people have no idea what they mean okay I’m just a hilly I like to use Simple King James English all right

Now I’m not going to uh guys I want you to put up the the passage if they can hear me in the back if not I’ll turn to it uh he said I was going to attack his uh his passage in his book I’m not going

To attack it I’m just going to correct it all right so uh Job 38 is where I want the guys to go if they can hear me back there if not I’ll just read it uh Job 38 need you to go there this is important job chapter number 38: 12-4

All right job 381 12-14 now I did read the book not all of it not verbatim not word for word I did like chapter six because it had a lot to talk about the testimonials of people uh that are being saved and have been saved now let me read through this right here

Is the the clay under the seal analogy that he uses I don’t attack that cuz I’m going to be honest with you yeah I I’m not real interested oh now we’re not in the whole Smash down in the whole stamp down in the whole upturn sides and I’m

Not interested in it from this passage okay because this is not at all what that passage has anything to do with okay I just I want to show you now I know it’s on the screens there but sometimes I like to to turn to certain places in the Bible hast thou commanded

The morning since thy days now again he was correct okay job is being re Reed by the Lord harshly things are happening in this context God’s asking him 84 questions that are basically unanswerable and so he says look have you commanded the morning since thy days no you haven’t commanded the morning

Okay because we don’t get to do that but watch this and caused the day spring to know his place well what’s the day spring well the day spring is just a King James word for the sunrise and we know later in the context that Jesus uh is called the

Dayspring right and so understand he’s just he’s simply talking about an analogy of the son right here he says plainly is this not the day spring don’t don’t uh Hey guys don’t move them things back there cuz I didn’t know my Bible until I go to the next one thank you and

So you cause the day spring the sunrise to know his place it’s obvious he’s talking about the sunrise now watch this that it everybody see that word it oh you’re goingon to get quiet now that I brought the Bible out what what’s the word it referring to the subject which is the

Dayspring which is the sunrise y’all quit changing in passages back there go back to verse number 12 again hast thou commanded the morning since the days and caused the day spring to know his place that it the day spring the sunrise might take hold of the ends

Of the Earth we’ll get to that passage that the wicked might be shaken out of it next verse he still talking about the sunrise he’s saying that nothing as the man of God said is going to escape the heat of the Sun the sun’s going to rise

No Wicked person can hide okay it doesn’t matter men love Darkness rather than light but the sun’s going to rise it’s going to shine light it’s what the Bible says that it might take hold of the ends of the Earth that the wicked might be shaken out of it watch this

It is turned and he’s correct in his analogy to say that the word does not mean turned like this he’s not talking about orbiting he’s talking about change it is changed as clay to the seal now listen we can use a analogies about Rings being pressed into wax

Here’s exactly 1,00% no way around it no way around it he can even come back up and explain himself about it if he wants to right but I got a long way to go he says just as wax has no form whatsoever okay and we don’t even talk in this

Terminology this is Old English just as wax has no form it’s just wax it’s just hot wax he says just like when a signant signant ring roll I don’t care what it is okay just like when it is dipped in the wax what happens the wax gets into

The cracks of the Signet and the signant comes to life before your very eyes what is going on here when the Sun rises it takes the darkness of the face of an earth that has no contour and no shape but as the sun rises the darkness

Of the crevices and the cracks of the earth begin to show themselves and when the Sun rises it sheds light on an earth that you could not see its Contours and curvature or whatever you want to call it before that and so just as the sun

Brings reality to what we could not see so when a ring is dapped dipped into the wax all of a sudden the the wax fills up the crack there’s only one thing he is talking about and it is the Revelation that sun light brings when the Sun rises in now wait a

Minute is there anybody in the room that would say h that’s theological gymnastics because it’s not talking about the Dayspring I is it talking about the sunrise yes or no what it it’s only talking about the sunrise and as the sun rises it sheds light on things we could

Not see just as wax has no form until you dip something in it that has form and it conforms to it and now you can clearly see it and by the way that happened in the very first chapter of the Bible because when darkness was

Upon the face of the deep God said let there be light and guess what the light shed abroad the Contour of what God was creating this verse is not about cosmology I’m sorry now it may be a cute verse to use and talk about the upside the upturn

Sides and that that’s great that’s fine I don’t mind if you use it here’s my beef with it you can believe the Earth is any shape you want to and we can have coffee just not Starbucks my gripe is not with people that believe Flat Earth my gripe is with people that say

The Bible teaches it that’s a totally different concept now look it ain’t kill the ogre time chill out chill out I’m five versus in got a lot way to go I’m I’m going slow on purpose I hope so because look you you cannot take that verse to mean anything

Other than what it means it’s a sunrise verse that’s it it is a sunrise verse that is it okay anyhow uh let’s get to some Bible and uh as if we’ve not already dealt with some when I talk about the bible let me say something I’m not

Talking about the Book of Enoch stop that nonsense stop it you see you like to quote the Book of Enoch when it fits but when you get later in the Book of Enoch when it doesn’t fit you skip those part everybody’s like book of enot well you know the Bible

Quotes The Book of Enoch yeah and what part the Bible quotes guess what the Apostle Paul also quoted lost historians and Poets it was historical framework but if you’re going to say the Bible teaches a flat Earth then don’t use a non-c canonized book that’s not in the

Bible to do it am I making sense right trust the Catholics I get it you don’t get to say I believe the Bible The Book of Enoch says I don’t care what the Book of Enoch says the Book of Enoch was not even written by Enoch and don’t say things like well you

Know David had it on his mind when he was writing The Book of Enoch was at least a thousand years after David okay and so when I say I’m I’m going to talk about what the Bible says I don’t care what NASA says yes you do

Did you know there is not one thing I believe about the Earth that NASA taught me what I can’t remember one single time I saw one guy he did a video he’s like well you know I got a I got a plastic Globe here and on the bottom of it you

Know why we can’t trust it because it says not for educational purposes okay right cool you ever seen the back of a condom box it says it don’t prevent sexually transmitted diseases or pregnancy good good argument it’s a disclaimer folks there’s nothing I believe about the globe that that I

Learned from NASA right and I love these huge leaps of Faith well he went from working from Disney to NASA so it’s all fake what that is excuse the pun circular reasoning that’s straw man argument that’s nonsense I don’t care what NASA says there’s never been a time in my

Life that I’ve ever NASA can can I have I don’t care what NASA says you know Samuel roboam was a long time before NASA what was his excuse he was a old salesman that believed he had an Elixir that if you drank it you would live everlastingly the guy had more atheism

Than he did Christianity and his Christianity was sketchy at best he’s like in his middle 20s when he comes up with the zetetic astronomy lookist I would not trust my 21-year-old son to Pastor an ouse much less build my entire theological framework a by some cat that

Couldn’t get a real job and so what he decides to do wow is go to a channel go to a creek that seemed to be flat for like three or four miles and because it seemed to be flat which was later disproven by the way which was seemed to

Be flat for just a few miles now he’s built this entire theological framework that the church has bought into hookline and sinker and they say we believe the Bible we believe the Bible and quote no Bible I don’t care what NASA says I don’t care what your fifth grade teacher said those

People are not the authority in my life okay Disney is definitely not the perverted Authority in my life there’s things we can agree on but stop saying you believe the Bible and then discounting the Bible so here’s what happened right from the very get-go he said you can’t get up and say

That the Bible is just metaphors well you can if it’s a metaphor if it’s intended to be metaphorical it’s intended to be metaphorical you can only take the Bible literally where it’s supposed to be taken literally and many times figurative analogy leads to literal understanding right of a metaphorical

You know translation there are many metaphors in the Bible I’m just going to very quickly explain that to you right think about this one in John chapter 3 Jesus came to a guy named Nicodemus and said ye must be born again well Nicodemus had the same mind

Mindset as a lot of people in this tent because he was such a literalist he said oh does that mean I got to reenter my mother’s womb and be born and Jesus said no that which is born of flesh is flesh but that which is born of spirit is

Spirit Marvel not that I said unto thee ye must be born again that’s the biggest metaphor in the whole Bible and nobody in this room would have trouble with that everybody sees that it was a metaphorical reference that led to a literal salvation in this man’s life but

It was a metaphor you must be born again no you don’t crawl back into Mama’s womb thank God right it’s a metaphor so you can’t say things like well don’t say the Bible’s metaphor well you can CU in Psalm 23 and: 5 the Bible says God prepares a table in the

Wilderness you you think that’s literal you sitting out in the wilderness eating up oh look at me y’all going to watch me eat Arrows fly everywhere it’s not literal it’s figurative it’s a metaphor it’s a metaphor that God’s going to provide for you and protect you no

Matter what situation you face and by the way no matter what your cosmology is that’s true naom chapter 1:3 the clouds are the dust of his feet the clouds are the dust of his feet sometimes I play with that one I’ll be sitting in an airplane I’ll look at

Somebody and say hey we just missed him now tell life like what look at there Bible says Nam 13 the clouds of the Dust of his feet okay look it doesn’t literally mean that God’s walking around right now in the sky in these clouds and those clouds and

Those clouds it’s a metaphor referring to the sovereignty of God that everywhere you look there’s God’s fingerprints and Footprints it’s a metaphor none of this is evidence love this one acts 17:6 now by the way both parties are going to like this one pay attention Buckle in

Acts 17:6 you know what the Bible says the Bible says that when these people were arrested the religious crazy political dignitaries looked at these disciples and said these men have turned the world upside down now if that’s literal y’all’s model is screwed that’s not literal it’s figurative it’s not even a globe

Situation he’s not talking about turning the world upside down he’s talking about the power of the Gospel through them made so much change around the world that it looked like they were wrecking everything oh Globe then you’re right Globe does that makees sense no now I

Know when you go to brother Church y’all get preaching right you you get the word of the Lord but I can tell and our people they get the word of the Lord I can tell some of y’all done showed up and y’all don’t have a pastor that preaches the Bible because you can’t

Figure out right now what you’re supposed to believe because what you want to believe is what YouTube told you what you fail to believe is what God clearly tells you in the Bible you haven’t given us any evidence of that that’s why I’m here and that’s dang and

That’s where you are going to have to draw the line so show us right and so there’s metaphors in the B turn the world upside down that’s a metaphor oh you’ll love this metaphor Isaiah 66 in verse number one Heaven is his Throne Earth is his foot

Stol okay first of all God is a spirit they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit in truth you start talking about God having feet that’s not even Christian theology anymore okay and so understand listen to me it says simply that the foot stol was Beneath The Sovereign Rule and the

Authority of God and people are like and I don’t say everybody in this room but they’re people all over the Internet that say well you know it’s a foot stol foot stol has pillars a foot does anybody here believe that that it is the literal foot stol of God I don’t think

It’s another strong slat well that’s cute until you get to Hebrews chapter 1 where God the father said to God the son cuz Jesus Is God deny that Theology and I don’t care what your cosmology is okay God the father said to God the son I’m going to make your

Enemies your foot stol you see both of them are figurative because you can’t use foot stol Isaiah 66 and verse1 to Proclaim Flat Earth unless you’re going to believe that enemies are flat as well it is figurative language ladies and gentlemen there’s no it’s a metaphor it’s an analogy that God is

Very clearly speaking what about this Matthew Chapter 5 you are the light of the world are you the light of the world yeah yes figuratively here’s why Jesus is the light of the world we’re the reflectors of the glory and the light of God Matthew Chapter 5 but you

Don’t walk around with batteries in your back it’s a metaphor for the glowing of your testimony because of the Gospel which by the way only half the crowd would like this and less than half the crowd will understand this that’s also a beautiful picture you see Jesus

Is the light we’re not the light we reflect in radiate that light just like the moon reflects and radiates the light of the sun because the light does not come from the Moon itself you do understand that right half of you understand that this guy’s a little kumy kumsa you

Know what I’m saying it’s metaphorical terminology little I think he might be a little light if you catch metaphorical terminology I got the mic you don’t now here’s one remember when I said when I did my little what they call a die tribe I got one

Verse everybody said yep he going to go to Isaiah circle of the earth I could care less circle ball huh because he here’s the here’s the argument well a circle is not a ball that’s true but a ball is a circle and guess what ball in early Isaiah he’s exactly right ball and

Circle two different words but you know what the word ball means in the Hebrew Circle what but I don’t care about the circle of the Earth the comp okay listen that’s not even what I’m going to tell you you know there’s one verse in the Bible that disproves Flat Earth

Immediately without hesitation we got to drop the m and go home you ready for it you going to wait for it okay listen what the Bible says it’s two verses one concept Psalm 103 some of you know where I’m going you you hoping I didn’t know this one was in the

Bible verse 11 and 12 we’re going to take it one verse at a time for as the heaven is high above the Earth so great is his Mercy toward them that fear Him Now do you believe that yes or no I do as the heaven is high

Above above the Earth so great is his Mercy but if you believe there’s a limit to the heaven you’ve limited God’s mercy and Romans says that you know any height or depth can take you away from the love of God what this guy’s garbage so you going to tell me there’s a structure

That’s blocking the rest of the heaven you have just minimized the mercy of God what you have for as the heaven in the same way in the same like manner as the heaven is high above the Earth not just a few thousand you know

Miles it’s on top of a no no no no I’m going explain all that to you from the Bible also by the way I I have my right to a theological opinion you understand that I sat there quietly clapped and amen okay the whole time and enjoyed it and learned some

Stuff because every man can be my teacher if you can’t learn if you know everything you need Deliverance no so as the heaven is high above the Earth so great is his Mercy toward them that fear him so in let me just say it this way my model the mercy

Of God’s endless in your model there’s a cap on it what so awful now don’t shrug your shoulders and be like that ain’t what the Bible says it’s clearly what the Bible say I don’t care what version you use that’s what it says but that’s just the first part

Because you can believe by the way in a dome but not a flat Earth that’s okay I don’t you believe in a dome does not offend me you see you believe in half a globe you halfway there where’d you get that one we just believe God completed the whole thing

You believe in a snow globe we believe in a fool Globe okay no we live inside of it not on the outside some of you like man I’ve been believing Flat Earth all this time I never heard about say it like that well that’s all right no

Nobody says that it’s the facts zero people because here is right here the stop to the whole argument as far shout far no as far as the east Is from the West now wait a minute why is that even a theological concept because when you’re going east you’re always going east when you’re going west you’re always going west but when you go north you eventually go south and when you go south you eventually go north that’s the

Same thing in our model I understand their explanation that North in the middle and it goes south South South South I just saw what on his model right so not only have you limited the mercy of God you have limited the Redemptive power of God this guy’s out of his mind

Because in a flat Earth model East and West is not the same as in what the Bible teaches a spherical Earth model where East and West never meet never intersect never show up and never say Howdy and shake hands as far as the East is from the West so God have taken my

Sin and removed them far from from me they will never ever ever ever ever meet again unless you’re a flat earther wow this guy’s out of his Mind you’re you’re false no no you’re false you’re just completely out of your out of your gourd dude it’s so God awful I can’t believe it why is that not the facts cuz East and West never end it’s the same thing oh see I love that I love

When they say that going in circles is circum navigation that’s what it means circum no no going in circles yeah is what people in a looney bin do no that you need you belong in a looney bin Circle you’re out of your [ __ ] mind such there is no proper East and West

Unless you make it up on a flat Earth model wow this guy because if you believe in infinite plane in all directions some of you do some of you don’t don’t care then guess what North and South keep going going going going going going east and west keep going

Going going going going and if you’re going to say that well you know East and West just work on the inside round and round and round and round you know as well as I do that had no intention in the text whatsoever what you are out dude this guy’s lost if

That’s the only verse we had it’s only one we need I see them little balls Flo around look there is no other way to dissect and exag properly that verse no you’re wrong other than what we know to be true because it’s what the Bible said not what NASA said

See people get mad at all they want to but I’ll preach to a full tent tomorrow whether you show back up or not oh that makes a difference you understand that I ain’t here for money I’m so sick of these people well you ain’t nothing but a

Shield you have $129 million I’ve heard people call Dean The Shield well he’s just paid opposition what at least he believes it at least he’s passionate enough to Proclaim it and get up here and fight it out and Duke it out in front of thousands of people all over the world with

Me y’all just a bunch of shields now let me tell you something there ain’t nobody in this room nobody in this room I promise you this ain’t nobody in this room fought the Masonic Lodge more than I have that devilish Wicked low down sorry good for nothing sex trafficking satanic

Cult of an organization it’s wicked as hell did he know my my title of the show today that’s crazy but somehow or another because I believe in a spherical Earth I’m siding with the Masons you know the authority that tells us who the Masons were in the historical

Records are people on YouTube that have no authority to tell me that not everybody’s in a masonic lodge folks some of you know I done called out some false prophets in this church I could have made Millions with them cats what you made 129 million I ain’t

For sale no matter what shape the Earth is do I need to check your wi so stop all this well you just yall just working for the free we ain’t working for the Freemasons Freemasons can eat my dirty socks bunch of devils bunch of demons we

Call it out every Sunday night there’s a spirit that goes along with the Masonic lodge and to say that a Christian that loves God been preaching 31 years well he must be just yoked up with NASA and the Masonic lodge because he believes in a spherical Earth that’s nonsense stop

All that thou protest this too much that’s apples and orange is I mean that that’s that’s ridiculous and and I want to tell you one of the reasons I called it out cuz we got people in our own church invisa each other over this Ridiculousness sounds like you’re crying about

It we got marriages on the Rocks because of Flat Earth and I’m not saying that people ain’t stupid that believe the other way I mean there’s crazy people on both sides I get it both Sid we all crazy but I have never ever ever and I have messed with a lot of Doctrine

I’ve never dealt with anything that is more divisive in the local church than Flat Earth theology never never I mean we got people that that came to this church two or three years good people here tonight moment I call it out I was lost I’m not even saved I’m

Not even regenerate you working for the Mason what you believed everything until that one little deal it’s that big a deal to you you know why it’s that big a deal I’m going to tell you why it’s that big a deal because it has become a Graven image to you oh

Boy wow it’s all you think about I didn’t even start studying it until I said I’m going to do the debate and I’m sick of thinking about it already that’s another lie now look if you can handle it in moderation handle it in moderation but it has become an idol to some people

It’s all they talk about and they’re like well you know Jesus came to bring a sword and bring division not about the shape of the Earth so anyhow uh you y’all can weas you way out of Psalm 103: 1112 all you want to but then I’m I’m going to do something real

Quick how many of y’all I got it all marked up how many y’all seen this right here Flat Earth doctrine. comom let me let me ask that again how many of you have seen the verses the 240 plus verses flat earth.com you you’ve seen this at least floating around as a

Meme on the internet dear God I hope you’ve actually read some of these verses before you showed to this debate tonight all right anybody ever seen this it’s it’s usually black okay a handful of you well that’s telling right there I want to get this cat’s name

Right he might be here tonight I don’t know Nathan Roberts author of the doctrine of the shape of the earth a comprehensive biblical perspective if what I’m about to read to you is comprehensive somebody need to change that man’s diaper he’s a baby in the

Lord a yeah I did say a baby in the the Lord comprehensive do have you seen some of the stuff on this list oh no no no no because you just share it on Facebook without reading the 240 some odd verses that are supposedly on here here we

Go let’s just deal with a few of them let me get some lwh hanging fruit here real quick by the way 240 plus Flat Earth doctrines and let me say this if you’ve not read every single one of the verses that are on this list I know more

About your stuff than you do that’s all there is to that that’s false cuz I’m sick of y’all saying there’s 240 verses what then how come you don’t read them you just assume they’re there do you know one of the verses on this list is Psalm 46:10 be still and know that I’m

God well you know the Earth is still so you know Psalm 4610 be still and know that I’m God some of you didn’t even know that was on the list he could have put worship Boo the clown on the list and put a fake reference and some of you have been like

241 verses now preacher you a even read it try man keep com then he likes to say things like this well you know Matthew’s Bible from 1537 says Flat Earth okay first of all I don’t read Matthew’s Bible from 15:37 because the s’s were fs and the

V’s were this oh you you you couldn’t read it if you had it in your lap yeah it says Flat Earth it s does 2 Samuel 11:11 I believe it is you know what it says talking about a military installment an Army in a certain area fighting another

Army and it says and they went up and pitched their tents upon the Flat Earth which literally means open field and everybody’s like oh give me that $30,000 flat Earth’s in the Bible yeah yeah sure is you think one Army in one city against one other military institution glob is spreading their

Tents out over the whole Flat Earth another straw man nobody said that no you’re reading a comic book if you believe that it’s just a simple phrase right everything’s just simple phrase that was mentioned in 1537 and every other time it’s been translated and I don’t even

Mind the translation some people like to play translation games I’m going to read 20 translations until it says what I want it to that’s what right this bad marriage this is the Bible wow some of y’all argue until you get that person and that text to say what

You wanted to say you just did that with that’s not EXA Jesus that’s Isa Jesus that’s reading into the Bible what you wish was there because what is clearly there doesn’t need to be brought out because it’ll make you uncomfortable and you’ll have to change your foolishness about

Anything about anything and so he puts that in there it’s not even a reference he even puts a reference in Revelation 2115 through 17 it says this New Jerusalem the huge Cube we ain’t talking about cubes and we ain’t talking about New Jerusalem we talking about Earth you

Know that was on there has nothing to do with flat Earth as most of these verses do not by the way but let me give you a couple of good ones that I think’s quite interesting in Second Kings and they can put it up there but I’m not going to

Read through all these I got to give you a bunch of just the highlights Cliff Notes you can read this it’s on every one of your Facebook pages at some point in the comment section every one of you I get it like 15 times a day so don’t

Tell me it’s not there okay it’s it’s everywhere it says uh he and I love how gives his own descriptions of what the passage is supposed to say but it do this 2 Kings 20 8-1 you remember Hezekiah the Bible talks about the sun dial going backwards he says uh the sun

Moves backwards two things about that number one that has nothing to do with the shape of the earth secondarily here’s what’s interesting did you know how Su dial only works because of a curved earth oh boy [Applause] what what oh my goodness he’s breaking out science he’s one of them scientism

Believers sundow cannot work on a flat Earth I wonder why you have to angle it to a certain angle of your degree look y’all can stay till 2 o’clock in the morning argue all night we’ll turn the live stream off I’ll sleep good I promise you can argue and fuss cuss you

Can get mad as you want to but sunds have nothing to do with the shape of the Earth but everything to do with the fact that guess what the sundow don’t even work forward or backward wait what did he say without proper shadowing of a curved Earth but nonetheless we’ll keep going

Even if you don’t like that description it still has nothing to do with the Flat Earth model wait what oh I love this one everyone sees Jesus Revelation 1:7 right well you know in Revelation 1:7 the Bible says when Jesus comes again the whole Earth every eye shall

See him okay even if the world was flat you wouldn’t be doing that show me somebody parachuting 15 mil from here right now okay it doesn’t work that way you say well he’s God he sure is and so he explains himself well Revelation 1:7 is a prophetic fulfillment of Matthew

Chapter 24 when he comes back and the Jews see him they look upon Him whom they have pierced and a nation shall be born in a day but just in case that wasn’t done good enough for you and it don’t do you fancy I got one better for

You because everybody’s like well you know everybody’s going to see Jesus and so the only way everybody at one time can see Jesus as if the Earth is flat well that dog only hunts until you get to Revelation chapter 11 Revelation 11 talks about the two witnesses and when the Antichrist kills

Them the Bible says and their dead body shall lie in the street in the gate of the city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt where also our Lord was crucified and they of the people of the kindreds and tongues and Nations shall see their dead bodies for three days and

A half and shall not suffer the dead bodies to be put grave question how are nations and kingdoms and tongue how are people around the world going to see two dead people in the middle of the street in Jerusalem because it’s not about cosmology it’s about technology and everybody says well you

Know everybody’s going to see Jesus when he comes back you know why because if indeed that verse is literally referring to everybody seeing him everybody’s got a device in their hand and everybody’s going to see them has nothing to do with the shape of the earth nothing to do

With the shape of the Earth but that verse is there then I I love these high altitude perspectives right that’s what he calls them he puts three of them in here Daniel 4:11 and Daniel 4:20 which are both by the way the same story the same

Passage look we we could stay here and go verse by verse line by line all night long but it’s right there you can look at the list Daniel 4:11 Daniel 4:20 it talks about a tree right the tree grew and was strong and the height thereof reached unto Heaven and the sight

Thereof to the end of all the Earth and then in verse 20 talks about this tree that’s so tall and so he put puts it here as a flat Earth doctrine that only on a flat Earth model can you see a tree that grows up that

High but what they do not tell you is right in the context of the verse it says and the tree that thou sawest o Nebuchadnezzar is thee O King and the Nations shall bow down before you and what’s interesting what is that in this context he wasn’t just talking

About Nebuchadnezzar being the tree it’s plain in the King James he plainly said two times in the story that it was a dream you know I’ve flown in my dreams the entire Revelation entire Revelation is a dream dream’s a dream oh just for ration throw it out a

Theological position what you base the entire thing on r evil King’s dream that already had the interpret from Daniel himself you are the tree so we can deal with that one now everybody loves Matthew chapter 4 the Bible says that the devil every I still with me no it says that the devil

Took Jesus up into an exceeding high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in the glory of them and said if you’ll fall down and worship me I’ll give you all the kingdoms I I’ll give you all this Authority I’ll give you all this power Matthew 48 look it

Up now they say the only way that can happen is on a flat Earth model that he’s taken to a high elevation and he is able to see all the kingdoms of the world couple of things number one please show me where that mountain is okay we’re talking about Jesus not Santa

Claus chill down Skippy okay Santa Claus I wonder what that’s an anagram for but I don’t care where it is I don’t care if it’s Midwest pole here’s what the Bible tells us in Luke and here’s what the flat earthers hate I hate in Luke

4 when it says that he was taken up by Satan to an exceeding high mountain and showed all the kingdoms of the world it adds this little phrase and says showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment we’re talking about God and Satan this was an obvious Inc context Vision

That took place on top of a mountain in a moment I mean look you can go to Mount Everest and you can’t even see the next ocean and it’s 29,32 ft High you can’t even see the next ocean okay no you’re exactly right and guess what I’m about to help you with

That because you’re not either because the whole purpose was for Jesus why did the devil take him up to an exceeding high mountain because the devil had to teach Jesus the finger two about cosmology no because in the Old Testament when Israel failed in Demon worship it was always in the high places

It was always in the high mountain and Jesus was the success and fulfillment of the failure of the nation of Israel and the devil took him up to a high place and said if you will fall down worship me I’ll give you all the kingdoms and Jesus basically said I don’t need them

Because I’m going to take them from you one day anyhow whether you give them to me or not this ain’t a high altitude perspective this is a fulfillment of Jesus and since I ain’t Jesus I don’t get to impose cosmology on it so it works both ways from the peanut

Gallery terrible anybody all [Applause] Right all right now listen very first one Earth created before the sun okay what’s that got to do with flat Earth nothing you understand that universe is complete not ever expanding I believe that our understanding of it is expanding but the universe is not expanding God made it all bam just like

That in a moment’s notice and spoke the word and it happened and it happened so that has nothing to do with flat Earth nothing absolutely nothing to do with flat Earth and then he says this Skies have a face and then he puts this in parenthesis a geometrical geometrical

Flat surface so he he imposes on us what the definition is before we even read the verses and and in this verse by the way when he talks about you know the sky having a face he’s using Matthew and Luke same Passage Mage two different eyewitnesses and these guys are speaking

They’re not talking about the shape of the heaven or the Earth they’re talking about weather conditions plainly but here’s what’s interesting they love to use that word face my brother did it did it a moment ago the face of the waters and so what he does here is he

Says that’s a geometrical flat surface the face of the sky that’s a geometrical flat surface really couple things about that number one you ever seen the face of a mountain that’s not a geometrical flat surface you ever seen your own face like look in the mirror not only does it have

Topography it’s the front of a sphere it’s connected to a globe on your shoulders and he has dozens and dozens and dozens of verses 28 in fact that says a geometrical flat surface is the fact when the Bible says Earth has a face and there are 28 verses that simply

Say the face of the Earth the face of the Earth but he tells us what to believe before we get a chance for the context to tell us why we should believe it it’s a geometrical flat surface no it’s not did you look the Hebrew it’s an expression

When the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters that doesn’t mean that he went from one side to the other across all the flatness of the earth it’s an it’s a metaphor I just gave you 10 metaphors and there’s 10,000 of them in the

Bible it is a book of poetry even if people want to say you you you shouldn’t say things like it’s a book of metaphors and a book of poetry why not it’s a book of poetry most of of what is quoted comes so often out of the book of

Psalms it’s a poetry book it’s beautiful I love it believe every word of it but it’s still analistic and he has 28 verses for that one he has let me count them up here 54 verses for the other faces of combined of water and Sky all of these vers and they all say

The exact same with no you don’t even need my context or your context the the context is it’s a simple illustrative term just the face of the Earth cool just that that’s it there’s there’s no there’s no shape in it it nobody wins that argument not me not

You it’s not a face as far as the shape of the earth it’s an expression of what’s happening in that particular part of the earth man there’s just there’s so many I love this one job 37:10 can we put that up there job 37:10 he says his description is go to

Job waters are straight not curved based off this verse by the Breath of God Frost is given and the breadth of the waters is straightened he’s talking about Frozen water by the Breath of God Frost is given and the breath of the waters is straightened yeah I have been uh

Snowmobiling on Frozen Waters that’s that’s not a difficult reality now I I do find it interesting is anybody back here in the little little backstage Place back here I’m I’m I’m going grab a little something here I find it interesting I can just keep talking walking that cool he he keep talking walking

Said is he cool water Finds Its Own level water don’t curve it’s interesting that when you get an actual tool called a level right that the water in the middle of it it’s in is a bubble and wait a minute that’s not the water that’s the air is spherical what

An idiot huh what an idiot water don’t curve really you ever seen Dew in the morning the grass water don’t curve little drops tell us Surfer that yeah they water don’t curve tell the people in Philippines right now that probably experiencing a unbelievable weather pattern of the

Ocean coming against them in a tsunami because of a huge I think 7.2 perhaps uh earthquake happened just maybe what three hours before we started does he realize why tsunami happen and why where’s the water going it’s going to level itself out that’s what the water’s doing there was something happen in the

Water there’s a lot of water and then it has to even out and go flat hours before we started dip [ __ ] tell them that water don’t curve you see I love how everybody’s like water Finds Its Own level you know why this is beautiful do you know water why water always finds

Its own level because of gravity oh because of gravity he’s never seen it never tested it because of gravity you know why I LEL Works only because of gravity that’s it I’m not interested in other people’s ideas of what they think gravity is or would be here till 1:00 in

The morning but just to show you what the hell’s wrong with this right just to show you let’s just be honest listen we’re trying to be honest tonight right is that what we want bootleg honesty let’s just be honest how many of you in this room on

Either side in our church it don’t matter no shame in this game we just talking we just debating how many of you do not believe in gravity would you stand to your feet right now stand just stand up for a minute and that’s okay I’m not shaming you I’m not Shaming I’m not shaming I’m I’m standing that’s fine man I’m standing so all of that we we can get into all the science but I find it interesting that we want to use bible verses to try to backhandedly teach something that simple observation doesn’t even teach what okay you can come with all

These and I know even even Mr Flat Earth Dave I know he has a whole different you know he don’t have the you know upward acceleration he’s got he’s got this whole you know Fantastical idea I get it I I applaud people that want to use their brain I’m

Not trying to shame people my whole deal is believe in Flat Earth all you want and let’s be friends but do not tell me that the Bible consistently teaches it they didn’t say consistently teach that’s all any form of cosmology as far as the shape of the earth is concerned

I’m not talking about creation for all of the sound bite technicians that are in the room wow but then it says Earth has ends there are 40 verses that talk about the ends of the Earth now do do I believe in that phrase absolutely of course I believe in that phrase I

Wouldn’t be a Bible believer if I did not Deuteronomy chapter number 28 and again he’s got all of these verses there’s no way that I can deal with all of them but in verse 49 listen what the Bible actually says about this context the Lord shall bring a nation against

Thee from far from the end of the Earth it’s pretty plain he’s going to bring them from the end of the Earth as Swift as the eagle flyth a nation whose tongue Thou shalt not understand he tells Israel a nation from the far reach of the world are

Going to come and they are let’s just say this real quick Greg lock believes in the complete annihilation of palestin just you know complete wiping him out the Jews should run the world get to kill whoever they want going to subdue you but let’s just say let’s just say hypothetically from my

Side that this really means that these people are coming from to gather them up coming from the end of the Earth then I have to be clear are you then saying that you believe there are multitudes of people that live on the ice wall at the end of the Earth that are

Going to come in and subdue the nation of Israel if you believe that that’s okay that’s okay but it’s the problem of taking metaphorical terminology and trying to make it literal because he clearly is not talking about any actual ends of the Earth clearly he’s talking about far

Regions and distances let me give you another one he he gives many you you can read them any time they’re they’re all right here and they’re all in the Bible right they’re all in the Bible 1st Samuel chapter 2 1st Samuel chapter 2:10 the adversaries of the Lord shall be broken

To Pieces Out of Heaven shall he Thunder upon them the Lord shall judge the ends of the Earth the Lord shall judge the ends of the Earth okay so is God literally literally speaking is God going to pronounce judgment upon those geographical real estate ends or is it maybe referring

Metaphorically to the people in the far regions of the world that God’s going to judge because they did not live right I don’t get well the whole argument of the if a gun was all metaphor now for anything we don’t believe in I believe I’d go with the

Metaphorical analogy okay and there are many many many many many of these Isaiah 52 matter of fact let me just give you another one Isaiah chapter 52 I love using the Bible so I just I like to I like to flip I don’t care about them screens Isaiah chapter 52 verse

10 the Lord the by the way these are on his list not mine yeah cuz there evidence of the Lord hath made bear his holy arm in the eyes of all the Nations and all the ends of the Earth shall see the salvation of our God so now the ice wall has eyes

What and they’re going to see the salv no it’s the people from Far distant regions we understand metaphor it’s simple metaphor and it’s truly unbiblical silly to try to force anything else into the text and and there are many many many of these matter of fact here’s one

That he did not put on his list and I don’t think it was uh accidental oversight but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt Psalm 22 verse 27 all the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the Lord and all the kindreds of the nation

Shall worship before him we are seeing just so people see the problem with word on a page this is the problem with words on of a book is it metaphor is it literal you get to choose whatever one fits your worldview I guess I wonder why he skipped that one

Well because it proves that the ends of the world proves are people huh not actual ends that are guarded by a continent that is not stretched around the entire circumference of a flat Earth model it’s just not and I can’t wait till we go we’re going we’re going okay

We money’s in the bank we going we going and let me tell you something I’ll eat crow have apologize for a lot of things my Ministry but I hope y’all be willing to repent as well cuz we going let me tell you something else we’re going to do maybe

I’m working on this you see I came well prepared I may not have all the understanding scientifically the inner workings and I appreciate all of his study but I do some pretty good due diligence there’s an outfit called worldview that launches next year they got these big

Capsules that they put six people in know what I’m talking about and they no no no no don’t CGI me because I’m gonna put you in one of them okay well we’ll believe that when we see them they put six people in these capsules they put them in a

Balloon they take them up to 110,000 ft now look look I don’t care about your fishey lens I don’t care about your I don’t care about your horizon I fly around the world all the time you ain’t going to see no you know curvature at 35,000 ft

You’re just not so you win that one but I love how you say that picture of curvature out that airplane window is is curved yeah but when it’s straight the picture’s okay I guess right you can’t have it both ways it’s hypocritical so I contacted the people that have already done their

Tests and gone up there right huh it cost $75,000 you Computing with me $75,000 to put one person among six in a capsule I got a Rancher friend in Texas it it Go those things go to 120,000 ft what the hell is he talking about I called worldview I think that’s what it

Called and I’ve got things worked out hopefully not date wise I’ll believe this when I see it got it down to 50 Grand wow that’s the worst spent money Grand and got a cattle rancher in Texas going to pay for the ticket yeah you’re 129 million isn’t enough and I’m going to let

Either Dave Dean Mark Sergeant ain’t going Mark Sergeant ain’t one of y’all by the way you know that oh here we go he’s done more damage to the Flat Earth movement than any Hollywood actor on the plan I don’t care if you’re in the room tonight

Mark Sergeant you ain’t going to get to Mike noow I love that show you know beyond the curve and they’re trying to make flat earthers not look like their people that are crazy that live in their mother’s basement and then the next scene is Mark coming out of his mother’s

Basement and she that’s on purpose dip [ __ ] he’s not done you any favors but you can choose whoever you want to whoever you want to we’ll get the cattle rancher and since I’ve not seen it and you’ve not seen it I’m going to take your word for it you ain’t got to take

No fishy lens you can just go right on up in that capsu sip you some coffee it’s an eour tour got them down to 50 Grand what a deal waste of money so when you get froggy we have balloons that go that high with cameras guy you see I believe

In putting money where the mouth is good you just wasted about uh I don’t believe in just open-ended wa a never saw it and you know that most people never will yeah until now so we gonna send someone up to what 120 and me and him going to get sent out

There sure and we going to go find your magnetic Mount Maro nonsense sure with The Spar of Destiny you know who started that a Satanist don’t you come about this argument of authority NASA NASA the first person to put flat Earth on the internet was Mark braa and that guy is a

Satanic blood ritualistic Heathen what that’s I’ve never heard of him and I don’t care if you in the building either I cast a demon out of you tonight quick anybody NASA is evil you got your ideas of a lot of this nonsense from Mark Brawn who is beyond evil and even

Claims to be Satan himself don’t come to me that AR you have no Authority who the hell is Mark Brun nobody believed this stuff before YouTube other than a handful of people that got a little bit resurrected in 1971 but before that it was just a Catholic Church which I find interesting

Catholic means Universal it was a Catholic Church that held on to Samuel Ray abam stuff for all these years no nobody went for it the Catholic church is who put the books together your proven for 2500 years wow 2500 years oh that’s fine that’s fine oh you

Know oh tells me you’re part of the last days deception that’s what you’re part of now by the way if you can get up here and say that about me why can’t I get up here in this church say that about you it’s a deception it’s caused more

Division than anything I could ever imagine I have been treated better by the alphabet cult than I have flat earthers well I wonder why in a month in a month you know I I got Muslims that I call out that treat me better than flat earthers it has become the most vitriolic

Divisive amount of bogus on both sides I’m not saying that we’re not always you know the right ones listen we we causing trouble too we throwing gas on the fire too but I I hope that at least we can understand that when we leave tonight yeah we get passionate yeah we get fired

Up yeah we talk back to the crowd yeah we throw maters and ters okay we get that stuff all time we we’ve been in the trenches for a long time but if we’re going to talk about being spiritually persecuted make sure it’s for the gospel not because of what you think the

Shape of the earth is oh my goodness I just can’t get my family to invite me back to Thanksgiving dinner I just love Jesus so much maybe it’s not because you love Jesus so much maybe it’s because you won’t shut up about the shape of the earth it’s really not that big a

Deal it’s really not because we believe the same thing about creation and you’ve tried to make creation Flat Earth we don’t disagree about creation we disagree about the shape shape of that which was created now look there’s 240 of them on here I’m not going through all of them

Obviously sounds like it but it’s shocking to me that I can ask and I don’t even know maybe a bunch of people raise their hand out but I can ask who’s read this who’s seen this and everybody’s like look at this whole full room and and and these are the

Definitive doctrinal verses what for Flat Earth because Nathan Roberts says so you’re confused human anymore you’re a confused human being oh I got dean’s list too got all the verses we’ve already dealt with some of the verses that Dean gave me every single one of them do you need to say

Something hold yeah go ahead go ahead you got the mic just go ahead let me finish my vers but you go ahead I just want to say this about about that list and about Nathan Roberts okay let let’s and I’m not saying you’re affiliated with him no no no no no we no

All right sh let me just a second just a second I just want to say this about Nathan Roberts okay what you’re doing with that list there you’re debating Nathan Roberts not us no no no okay hold on I’m telling you the Bible and here’s how I know

That because when I discredit let me let me finish what I say about Nathan okay but I’m not worri about Nathan you but you’ve been debating his list I have I have let me let me say what I got to say about his list I have never posted his

List because I don’t agree that all of the verses refer to I don’t believe that you agree with all of them absolutely there’s some of them that are just foolish now some of them refer he says Flat Earth but he’s talking about just cosmology in general but listen

Nathan Roberts was a young believer who I had to correct and rebuke and instruct on many things he was a very young believer and he was wrong about a lot of things and he has since disappeared now if you want to debate him you I know he since disappeared but here’s the deal

These verses have so infiltrated the the movement whether you wrote them or not that’s why when I contextually disprove them the crowd shouts at me and they’re mad well here hear what I’m saying though I hear what you’re saying hear what I’m saying is Nathan Roberts is not

The issue and we don’t agree with a lot of scriptures that’s on his list that he took them out of context and they don’t apply so using his list is not debating me it’s debating him absolutely but the question is how many verses do you have

For Flat Earth he gave him to you he just gave his how many no he didn’t no he didn’t he only dealt with the firmament he only dealt with the firmament there were no verses that he used on flat not one clay seal yes I did

Only the clay and I explain that that’s Sunrise no no no no you didn’t not Sunrise pull from Isaiah and Psalms you didn’t deal with that well but I will I what was going to say in my rebuttal do I still get a rebuttal sure absolutely

Okay I mean we are not going to be able to go all night but yeah go ahead and start doing a re right now be all right I got so much to say these verses there’s tons of these verses I got I got pages of my own notes Pages amen amen

All right I’m going to be I’m going to try to be brief here and I do you said and I’m going to hold you to your word you said that I could bring anybody I wanted so I’m going to call up a couple of people to answer some

Things Austin and uh sweet we’ll let you come up and answer a couple of things that you said but let me let me address just a few things in what Pastor Greg just showed I’m going to show you some things now first of all I want to say

This and let me go back to my notes here that I made while you were speaking first of all you say you’re okay with us believing flatter Earth then you say that it’s end time deception then you talk about you don’t you don’t want to insult people but then

You say things like you make God a liar if you believe Flat Earth so I don’t see how that you called us clowns I didn’t say that tonight no but you said it through this whole thing so what I’m saying is is that we the people out here

That are getting a little upset with you is because the way that you insult people oh no wait uhuh you said we weren’t Christians if we didn’t believe in flat yes you most certainly say that absolutely don’t you sh me down my own church listen to me I never said and

Then this is a fact absolutely I preached this for years don’t interrupt I have said for years you do not have to believe in Flat Earth biblical cosmology to be a born again Christian I have never made that an issue we’ll rewind the video tonight when we’re done when

You said that we’re not biblical Christians if we do not adhere to the you used to speak out against tongues and deliverance you were not a Biblical Christian in that area and guess what tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit Flat Earth is not a gift of the holy

Spirit it’s in the Bible what a heretical bunch of nonsense do I get to do my rebuttal without you interrupting me or not quit asking me questions if you don’t want me to rebuttal back do I need to you said you would speak then I

Would get a rebuttal yeah let me have I was still speaking but I’ve been nice enough to let you jump up and rebuttal let me finish let me actually give one without interrupt then don’t ask me a question that’s the whole point we did this a minute ago where we asked

Questions and you let me speak and I let you I didn’t say that’s what we’re doing I didn’t say a word so give you rebuttal so I’m going to give it all right first of all good entertainment way I’m just going to add this in you

Know when we came this weekend I was hoping that things would stay sweet and nice between us but it’s not the case and so what I did was I rented a room at the uh at the Marriott for tomorrow morning if anybody wants to come have church with fire and

Grace Church absolutely cuz I’m not going to sit here under this kind of belligerent attacks and calling people names and stuff like I’m just not going to I can’t I can’t come back here because of it okay all right but here you can do it but I can’t be abrasive

And because then that hurts everybody’s feelings that’s okay I get it hold on a second I get it has anybody has anybody I’ve never called you a clown you called when you got up talking about this a few weeks ago you said hey quit saying few

Weeks ago that was the first time I ever even mentioned it I’m talking about tonight tonight you have been in insulted and and and I wanted to keep it nice and listen I let me say this very let me say this very clearly let me say this very

Clearly you told me that I was involved in a deception you are and then when I say it you’re like oh my goodness that’s my feelings are F We Believe each other’s deceived in a that’s fine but when you say moronic idiotic when you start going down I didn’t call you or

Anybody that I said we attack ideology and as far as I’m concerned the ideology is moronic all right let me let me let me show you where you were this this is the kind of stuff he said okay he started this out in Hebrews 11:3 I took

A little note here it says through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God so that which uh so the things which are seen are not made with the things which appear now his argument was the term worlds here means the planets the solar system the

Word here if he looked it up in the Greek dictionary doesn’t mean anything like that in fact the word is the Greek word Eon which means ages or time periods not planets so that that you just did with that verse is deception and error well then explain the two verses

That I used that led into that verse because they did prove that we are the only habitable planet amongst many no no no amongst many first of all the word planet does not exist it’s used one time in the King James version and that’s a mistranslation Because the actual it’s always a mistranslation

The mation the actual Hebrew word is maala which means constellations not planets and that’s a fact that’s not a fact what then you’re deceived all right if me being deceived means I believe in a spherical Earth I’m deceived and you can just go ahead and leave and cancel this debate right now

Because you’re not going to convince me what the Bible clearly says the Earth is not flat 1,000% and if I got people in our church that think it is that’s great I love you but if you want to go to his little service in the morning then go to

His service in the morning it’s not going to bother me one bit the Earth is not flat it was disproven 25 200 years ago you can’t show me one verse in the Bible that proves that the Earth is flat it’s nonsense it’s nonsense we’re not going to get anywhere else because

Here’s the problem you use two hours of PowerPoint presentation and your people are quiet I use an hour and 15 minutes of the Bible and they get mad and start throwing maters and ters at me okay all right here here’s the deal let me just

Say this and I I will I’m I’m walking out now but I want to say this oh listen that your your folks are standing up yelling go get out okay you know what that’s fine with me here’s the deal here’s the deal here’s the deal I gave you the scriptures he gave

You his version It’s always somebody else’s verion hold hold on hold on no no this is nonsense you came up with your scriptures gave your interpretation of them I gave mine I gave you the Bible interpretation I gave you the Bible I gave more Bible than you did for a fact

Right there all right oh really that’s a fact well I’ll tell you what how about how about in your rebuttal I’ll keep my mouth shut and you tell me how wrong I was about your misapplication of the ring staing in Job chapter 38 first of

All hello is it sunrise or not not not at all I don’t agree with you turn his mic off get out wow you’re a Bible denier you’re a Bible denier you’re a Bible denier wow that is ridiculous Bible denier just get out get the band up here woo let’s

Worship the Lord I ain’t putting over this nonsense no more I gave you our platform and y’all want to get up here with a bunch of nonsense come up here B let’s Worship the Lord we’re going to we’re going to actually do something spiritual in this room tonight instead

Of talk about Flat Earth nonsense and by the way if you go to this church and you’re upset about me taking the Bible in its context and dealing with it and you’re going to keep sewing that Discord don’t ever come back that’s all I’m going to tell you right now don’t I’m

Not listen it’s a last day’s deception I do not care if this is a UFC Smackdown to the map I would highly suggest that people keep their mouth shuts get in their car and go where they need to be we’ll see you at 10:30 in the morning

We’re going to have a packed house and we going to preach what the Bible says if you believe the Bible global vision Shout a [Applause] man good Lord okay give me one second here checking on I see some people messaging just want to see what I goty Here no we’re not listening to that all right I’m going to break some of that down we’ll talk about some of that although I think it’s pretty easy to figure out what’s going on here and I’ll have a quick intermission what song do you want to listen to one of my songs

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There we go it’s off now uh give me one second we will be back let me get this on here and uh let’s see here what how about a little conspiracy Music Guru yeah I think so uh let’s find that song videos and how long ago was that

Uh didn’t think it was that long ago it’s after that wait how long ago was that that we did the oh there it is all right we’re gonna listen to this real quick I’ll be back in five minutes see you Guys I wonder if you would recommend locking down schools if you have to do it all over again you’re okay you’re not going to you’re not going to get Co if you have vaccination first of all I didn’t recommend locking anything down do not I recommended to the president that we shut the Country is a blind fake we see it down Build fake Hugey spe good you must be cuz the world’s not turning no more AST so why is this world is CDC and TSA C naar COC space space forace is [ __ ] fake of course Island El musk launching Einstein was Queen two more weeks of quaran J fake attack George SW

Said he couldn’t breathe it all over allc and Alex Sea stay inside your out The elite Bill Gates track F world’s as this is now it’s time we 911 no FL the day building falling from the call conrete in the Streety like Where as wi sick of these CLS get the sun shut down CLK we have rock that yeah Li rocket CGI plan CG the ISS is [ __ ] D of course would it may be concerning that’s the building is burning they come these liar they take down saying we go around this world is why TR Was Is All right I actually didn’t move from my seat so that didn’t really do the job I was supposed to do but we’ll come back we’ll talk for a little bit and then we’ll get to the other parts of the show hopefully everyone enjoyed the debate I

Did not expect it to end like that but uh I guess maybe you know Greg lock was absolutely horrible absolutely uh the worst job I’ve seen it I mean I don’t even know what he was doing um what he was trying to do oh what’s that the green light means the

ISS see that light there the ISS is going above my Supply that’s what that means but I think it means green means you can’t see it I believe I don’t remember so anyway um so we’re going to get into this we want to talk about a couple of these

Things let me see what’s a better screen to bring it up we go to this one so I can bring up that little list real quick just I kind of got tired of typing everything I’m going to type in this all day uh let’s see so we had this one first

Oops that’s a little too small for me to see let me get that a little larger this one here where’s the first one that one okay hello thank you all right we’ll go through each of these but I just thought that uh he was going to provide and I said you guys

Remember I said how are you going to argue Pro Globe from a Bible perspective well if he means taking Nathan Roberts stuff and tearing it apart that’s not proof that the Bible is any way a globe book there’s not any reference to it at all and I think he proved that tonight

If there was any reference to the globe your first bit of evidence would be here’s the reference from the Bible that says that the Earth’s the globe he didn’t have one of those because the clear indication is that the people who wrote the Bible did not in any way or

Any form or any shape think that the Earth was a sphere ball in space okay so here’s a list of his nonsense let’s see if we can remember some of these so we’ve got uh believes in science only when talking the globe yeah I mean he’s talking about I don’t

Believe in evolution I don’t believe this I don’t believe these lies but the Earth’s the globe and again you’re talking about things on earth that we can test you can go test Evolution you can go test these things and they lie to you about it Greg so why would you then

Think the places you can’t go the things you’ll never experience why would those be the truth oh science lies about the things that we can go and verify but they would never lie about the place in the sky that I can magically appear and we have Rovers there sure guy whatever

You’re saying uh believes in planets Giant Gas planets I don’t know he started going to this whole planet thing uh I don’t understand the idea of planets in a Christian world uh I don’t get it I don’t understand why you would ever believe that gas can do the

Opposite of what it does and I’ve said a million times and people probably getting tired of it but it’s really one of the better debunks and just nobody has an answer for it think about it if we take a balloon put it it’s going to start floating into into the sky and we

Know that the gas inside expands okay there’s less and less pressure holding it in and therefore the balloon gets fatter and fatter and then all of a sudden it explodes why because the gas is going in every direction hence shattering the balloon get me out of

Here I need to get into the uh no pressure zone so then we’re told but if you put enough gas in this balloon magically when you let it go up to the sky and it starts expanding it just changes its mind says you know what

There’s so much of me now I’m going to pull to the center but you’re like but you just went up there and you just expanded and got out of the balloon as fast as you could yeah but if there’s enough of me then I don’t want to get

Out anymore then I say I want to stay here in my Center nonsense nonsense gas planets nonsense Rovers on Mars I mean these guys can’t barely talk to the ISS the ISS they have a freaking 11 second delay but uh we’re driving remote control cars on Mars 80 million miles

Away okay you can believe that if you want uh believes in multiple worlds he just T he just destroyed that and I said if you remember I said I bet you the word and this is something I’ll give Austin all the credit that I used to uh

I wouldn’t call it a straw man so much because I would attack the Bible for what I’m reading in front of me and you know Austin kept telling me I don’t think that’s what they you know let’s go look at the Hebrew and every time I did the Hebrew said something different and

It was just to the point where it’s like okay what am I even reading the English version of the Bible for anymore and I think we learned tonight that you have people that are just going to say different this is a metaphor this isn’t a metaphor based solely off of what like

Greg was trying to point that on everybody else like oh you only believe what you want to believe in the Bible but then he’s literally taking each thing and changing it based on whether or not it fits his Doctrine that’s exactly what he’s projecting that’s exactly what he’s saying everybody else

Is doing now I don’t disagree with him right there’s a lot of those verses that are not verses that I would ever say in the Bible or flattered verses um so I agree with them on some of that but what I don’t agree is that just his take on

The Bible is writing every time it’s possible that the Bible might be referring to a flat Earth it’s not and anytime that it’s never referring to a globe it’s clearly not uh he just you know goes the the seal one is got me was isn’t the seal isn’t that job 38 14 or

15 I want to see what he’s talking about by saying it’s a it’s about the sunrise okay I want to read the full chapter so 14 3814 let’s start at 12 have you given orders to the morning or shown the dawn its place that it might

Take the Earth by the edges and shake it its Wicked out of it the Earth takes shape like clay under a seal its features stand out like those of a garment the wicked are denied their light and their upraised arm is broken have you journeyed to the springs of the

Sea or walked in the recesses of the deep I don’t see where he’s saying that’s the sunrise what it might that it might take the Earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it that is referring to the sunrise the Earth takes shape like clay under a

Seal wow I don’t even know what he was reading when he was giving us his opinion of that he was like reading something else anyway that’s another one gone uh he said if I meet Dave Weiss then the Earth is going to spin you you proved our point you use

It’s like when pigs fly so yeah we can use that as a term if you want and say oh yeah that’ll happen like when the earth spins that’s exactly what uh is meant by that so when you say oh if I met Dave Weiss the Earth would spin

You’re saying that such craziness would happen that the Earth would spin right okay uh reminds me of Vince McMahon uh if you guys remember that one Vince McMahon is giving his rundown here let’s watch it well imagine this imagine me standing in the middle of this ring it’s the

Night after WrestleMania and I’m he’s about to describe something that could never possibly happening my son Shane MCM at deposit or else you get immediate strikes for you can’t play WWE I been doing that the only reason I would be doing that is because right right right hell would have frozen over

Which we know what that means when hell freezes over it means s couldn’t have possibly happened at WrestleMania the Seas would have parted the Seas would have parted craziness the Earth would have spun on its axis the Earth spinning on its axis is crazy and there would have been a miracle at

WrestleMania right so he said the same thing if he meets Dave Weiss then the Earth will spin on its axis thank you very much Greg for all the converts that you’ve definitely acquired this evening I guarantee you there’s not zero people at Doodle’s uh church tomorrow guarantee that all right let’s

Go back to here and let’s bring up this list again all right so we’re on uh he said Enoch didn’t write Enoch so it’s false well I mean does he know that Matthew and Mark and Luke and John did not write the gospels so if they didn’t write the

Gospels then they’re false as well okay it’s such a dumb argument so he’s like you can’t use Enoch is it’s not Biblical scripture yet do you know who took it out it’s the Catholics that you kept making fun of the rest of the time so if you don’t believe in Catholicism or you

Think that it’s un means Universal and it’s got all these problems with it then you cannot Ed the books that they decided which ones go in do you know there’s actually a story that I don’t remember how The Story Goes though that the way they came up with the books

According to the story the lore is that they like put them on a table and said God let whatever books you don’t want in the Bible fall have you heard this story it’s actually a story I mean it’s like I think uh I wonder if I could how would I

Find that though uh Bible books decided by chance or I don’t know what what you call that who decided which book should be included in the Bible I don’t remember where that story is from how’s the Bible created uh I thought there was some sort of a oh is it here

They say they cast no they didn’t cast lots doesn’t that mean like roll dice practice of casting lots the practice casting lots occurs most in connection with the division of the land under Joshua the New Testament nowhere instructs Christians to use this method similar to casting lots to help with

Decision- making now that we have the completed word of God no that’s not what I want I don’t know anyway somebody in the chat is probably saying it I just don’t remember where I’ve seen that before I thought I saw it somewhere what’s this one the Sun the fastest runner doesn’t always

Win what I’ve never even heard that verse in the Bible before uh anyway I thought that there was let see book Bible books decided yeah I don’t know how to even say that I don’t know how to search for it divisions of the books of the Bible divisions classifications Catholic book

Has 73 books biblical Canon 46 books anyway I’ll look for that story I’m writing it down because there is a story I’ve seen that says and it was written about by like the church fathers okay find that okay if anybody knows you can help me out with that one

Um see this says Old Testament classification New Testament classification New Testament introduces two more classifications gospels Epistles acts then we come to the Epistles Apostle Paul the last book it’s crazy to me that Paul wrote 75% of the New Testament and never met Jesus just saying uh mostly contains

Gospels and Epistles there’s one history book in the New Testament acts and one prophecy book all right this not I anyway the entire Bible is divided into 66 books written by 40 different authors over a period of 1600 years who wrote the Bible and when right because if Enoch didn’t write it then

It’s not canon if it says Enoch wrote it even though I don’t think most of the Bible writers were written by the names that were on there um my favorite too is that just right the key to understanding the unity of content of the Bible is to understand

All scriptures given by inspiration of God but that is written in the Bible it’s not like somebody outside of it said that Bible is all for inspiration it’s the person writing the book said this book is good for all inspiration right I didn’t think you can’t really use that to prove yourself

But again anyway I thought that there was something WR something somewhere about but I don’t see it so anyway we’ll skip past that I don’t want to get all anal like I usually do when I can’t find something all right let’s go back to list we got uh stman arguing about

Disney to NASA I don’t know what he was saying he’s like oh this person went from Disney to NASA who went from Disney to NASA if you’re talking about Von Bron that’s a pretty big deal that not just Von Bron but all those guys there’s a bunch of

Names Kurt CER I a whole bunch of Masons and people that were um part of uh really kind of you know evil [ __ ] going on in Germany and testing on people I mean they knew the human mind you know there’s many people who even think that

World War II was lost by the United States and won by I mean it’s crazy but uh you have all these 1800 scientists that over they were distributed and lied about again this is what people forget is that it wasn’t like the United States announced to people hey we’re going to

Be bringing these Germans over that were just in the SS and now they’re going to be running your space agency they didn’t tell people it was people found that out down the line later and so now it’s just part of history but at the time it was a

Secret they secretly that’s why it’s called you know Project Paperclip Operation Paperclip because they put a paperclip onto the folder which was the clue or the the tip that hey we should get these people they know enough that we want them working for us rather than being tried at the nerber trials

So that is um I guess what he’s talking about there he says the Old Bedford level was ex was proven not flat which again proven is again it’s a if you’re going to consider that okay well originally it showed flat and then they went back and did it again and this time

They declared it it was curb and again the way that the setup was done was not correct roboam tried to correct everybody did this is why Hampton went crazy and this is why again I’ve always voiced this this is why George Wallace isn’t even mentioned well occasionally mentioned but not much with his

Discovery he’s Darwin you know George Wallace is more responsible for Darwinism than Darwin but Darwin is a better face because George Wallace got involved in the Flat Earth controversy he was an antivaxer all these things so again they couldn’t possibly this is why science tells lies they’re not going to

Tell you the truth about that story because the story includes an antivaxer so they’re not going to have the inventor of evolution be an antivaxer that can’t be so remove him put Darwin in and the world believes you because you’re science and you would never lie right you guys are unbiased human beings

Those exist uh straw man foot still arguments I don’t know he just would say like again this is the problem if you’re just going to get to pick whatever you want to be a metaphor then just okay then I’ll do the same thing okay so anything in the Bible that I feel like

Metaphor is not really yeah it’s not really true I don’t have to follow that yeah Jesus died for my sins he didn’t really mean like that I mean he he basic it’s just a metaphor you know it’s just a word of way to speak about things right it’s a sacrifice you don’t think

He really sacrificed his son right that’s just like a saying I mean again it’s just if you can do that this is the problem with words on page I’ve said this many times my brother-in-law is a pastor I went and sat in his church and watched him preach about how tattoos

Were wrong everything about tattoos were wrong three years later M shows me a picture look it look who has tattoos now I’m like what the hell he’s got tattoos all over his arm then we listen to him preach again about it and it’s the same Bible the same verses but now he

Preaches that it’s okay to get tattoos he just switched it yeah sometimes it’s not okay sometimes it is again that’s the problem with words on paper uh I believe it’s better when it’s written in your heart because you can actually feel when you do right and wrong I don’t need

The book anyway let’s move past that one we’ve got uh ball in Hebrew means Circle I don’t even know what so he said and I don’t care what ball mean but ball mean is this and you know what the Hebrew word it’s like no there’s two different words in Hebrew that are used

By Isaiah one to throw something to throw it like a ball so that’s the word used there and then the word chug or H whatever how you pronounce I’m not a Hebrew scholar means Circle okay and the problem with that is then he says yeah but a sphere is a circle

Okay then he says and you know what the meaning of that word is in Hebrew it means Circle so what do you mean the the meaning of the word ball is circle and the meaning of the word chuga Circle no the meaning the meaning of the word ball

That he used was the ball that gets thrown and the meaning of the word circle is the word Circle that he used for you know inscribing the earth I I don’t know how you can just be so off on that uh limits the power of God because of Dome

I mean that was the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard if you believe in a dome you’re limiting God’s grace yeah because God can’t send grace through the Dome what the [ __ ] are you talking about that doesn’t even make sense it’s literally [ __ ] okay so that’s the first list

Of his nonsense let’s get up the second one here let’s get this one off the screen put this one I got to make it a little larger oh come on knock it off uh this little program is a pain in the butt come on do it all right there we go

All right let that thing render let’s go render engine move along uh by the way we’re going to be giving out a VIP pass here in a little bit two Mount Maru I’ll probably give you some trivia questions probably four of them hopefully you’ve been here the

Whole show all right let’s get this back up there we go east and west confusion that was actually the worst part I mean that was so lost uh you know oh if you keep going north then you go south again yes and he says if you keep going south you go

North which isn’t true but again the Bible doesn’t say that but it does say east and west and it never ends and it’s well yeah East and West Never End East and West is basically relative as far as well I mean it’s not necessarily relative it is the cardinal direction

But it’s wherever you’re at if you’re face North it’s on you know West is to your left and East is to your right that’s the way it is everywhere so you can never get you can never reach the East because you would be going east and you would keep going east and you

Might think you’re there but you can go east more and you might go backwards and you’re going west it’s uh that’s I don’t think he knows that East and West are circles that’s the problem um most people don’t a lot of people who still believe in the globe Earth don’t realize

East and Wester circles and this is why they hit it from us see there’s so many things when you find out I mean the freaking watch the watch on your wrist with the two hands going around with the two 12 is the way that they hid the 24-hour Sun as

Far as if they gave us a 24-hour clock hand somebody would have gotten smart and be like well that’s weird so the sun moves 24 hours the hands moving in 24 hours oh the sun is above wherever it is on a flat right it makes but by making

It 22 we were just all so freaking stupid and you know fed Fruity Pebbles and basically watch Scooby-Doo and uh you you don’t have time to think about anything in real life uh number two because he reads 240 verses he knows more yeah he says if I if you haven’t

Read these and I’ve read these I know more about Flat Earth than you that’s uh [ __ ] um we’ve got a ball means Circle but don’t read into it a ball oh yeah just saying that a ball means Circle I don’t know what he means by that there’s a c part you can

Call part of a ball a circle is that what he meant he said a sphere is a circle well no a sphere is a sphere um you know viewed from certain areas you can call it a circle I don’t really know what he meant by that uh sundal only works on a

Curve so in order for the sunnd dial to work you just simply have to angle the and I always I don’t know how to say this word Gomen maybe that’s right you have to angle the nen at the your latitude which is just pointing it at the North Star

Right if you point at the North Star then the shadow that appears on the ground is the time of day so it has nothing to do with the curve of the earth now if you want to say the reason that that happens is because the

Earth is curved you can say that if you want it’s not proof you said it only works no on a flat Earth you point the Gomen at the uh North Star and then you get the time displayed on the ground below you okay we’ve got uh don’t

Believe in dreams in the Bible right he said it’s a dream can’t believe in dreams okay well I thought the entire Revelation was a dream so don’t believe any of that guys get rid of that idea uh according to Greg lock a level works because gravity only it’s just wrong I

Mean he said look at the the circle of water in and it’s a bubble that’s you’re basically creating that air and it needs to as the water tries to find its level you’re trying to its level when the bubble is that’s why the the things are curved you’ve noticed that right A lot

Of people I’ve heard somebody say like what do you mean it’s curved uh level bubble spirit level bubble this real quick spirit and people don’t realize that the the actual container is is curved and that’s how you get the bubble in there to sit in the middle let me

Show you images spirit level bubble can we get a closeup of one well I guess I want a spirit level more than anything not a bubble see if we get one okay can we get a straight on shot please spring level I said Spirit okay can we get a good view of

That let’s see this one not the best one yeah it’s not going to work I need one closer hold on I’ll show you in a second soon as I find one that will work I can’t really see that I don’t see any good images for it

Where is one that’s straight on with me I don’t see it they’re all like sideways oh maybe this one no it’s not good not good so basically if you filled up that entire thing right it would just be packed full liquid there’ be nothing there but not

Filling it up all the way and creating that bubble that’s what CA now again he’s saying we never said water in a container with a little bit of air doesn’t ever curve no it would because it has to make room for that air and the

Air is going to be curved what what does he expect the air to do that’s how the level works let me see if I can get a picture of the curved part and there we go this one a little bit well is that one curved I guess just minus curve oh no that’s

That’s just a bigger bubble well anyway his argument was dumb I didn’t even get it uh a level works because of gravity I mean here’s the thing that’s so weird about gravity for people to be so in love with it we have to recognize let’s all recognize that

The only reason we believe in it at all is because we were taught it otherwise it’s retardation the idea of again here’s the thing and I’ve said this a couple times the last couple weeks and I’m really starting to I think it’s one of the best

Arguments that we have that if there is something that has its own Force pulling Force then it is a perpetual energy machine so every item in the world this pencil this remote control everything is a perpetual energy machine and the fact that this right here as I’m holding it

Is pulling things into the center of it without any power look it I’ll even prove it batteries out no power in the remote control anymore however it is still generating a pulling force in all directions magically that can’t be stopped it is a perpetual energy machine and science

Tells us they don’t exist you can’t have perpetual energy you always get poorn well then who the how the hell is this working how can it have something inside of it that’s pulling other things to it it’s retardation now the word gravity means gravitas which means weight that’s how simple it is

They have to tell you you’re stupid for thinking this the reason that you’re sitting in a chair right now is because your fat ass has weight okay that’s why you’re in the chair that’s it if you lost a bunch of weight to the point where you weighed less than air you’d

Start floating up you’re not going to get there hate to tell you no matter how bad you diet snake diet it doesn’t matter you’re not going to get there so everything that you’re holding hold something right now in your hand pick something up hold it whatever it is pencil lighter

Quarter and recognize that what is happening to that item is its weight is more its density is more than the air around it you can feel it it’s there’s nothing pulling it from the ground that’s dumb it’s simply the direction down is and this has more density than

The air and it goes down it’s that simple and people you know if you try and say the word weight they’re like wait weight means nothing weight is dependent on gravity no no weight is your ratio of density per in your in your medium right so meaning if I stood

On a scale in the in water I’m going to weigh different than if I stand on a scale on Earth and I weigh different if I stand on a scale on Mount Everest and I because it’s dependent on the medium that you’re in if I’m in water I weigh

Differently if I go on land I weigh differently if I go up a little higher on land I weigh differently because the pressure is less it’s all just your ratio of your density versus the density of your medium that’s it that’s what gravity is so everything about it is

Just is explained in that if you throw a baseball I throw it that way all right well the baseball weighs more than the air and so it starts to come down there’s no Force pulling things down if there was a force of gravity so many things would be different so many things

Would be way different it just doesn’t make any sense grass would be laying sideways growing up and it was being pulled to the Earth trees would be all droopy back to the Earth this way you know it’s just ridiculous to think that gravity would be pulling the clouds it

Would be uh it’s like people say oh well gravity it pulls the air and that causes the balloon to go up why doesn’t it just start pulling on the balloon too I don’t get it none of that makes sense to me so anyway as far as a level

Works because of gravity no a level doesn’t work because gravity a level uses the water and again here comes the the argument the argument that they get away with and this is why I had to change my beliefs a little bit the one that I don’t use anymore is railroad

Tracks I just don’t use it anymore because it made sense to me when somebody said and what I mean by made sense is that okay I get the argument therefore I won’t use that anymore the argument is well if you laid let’s look at a Home Depot think about a Home Depot

On Earth okay great now pretend that the Earth is a sphere it’s a giant sphere like we’ve been told as impossible as it sounds I know it’s flying through the VAC I know it’s crazy we’re going 1.2 million mil hour now it’s insane but let’s just pretend it’s real that if

That was the case and we lived on a giant sphere that you would just lay railroad track that’s it because everywhere you are is flat now this is how they get away with it by saying everywhere you are is flat but the big picture is that we’re a giant sphere

Because then they can place Us in space and put other spheres out there and other stars and things like that where if we’re flat they can’t do that so this is why they go that direction but I don’t use that excuse anymore because I

Get it if you took and this is going to sound insane and it is insane to even think about think about if we had levels let’s say these are my spirit levels and we’re at a Home Depot but the whole world is Home Depot imagine that now you

Would never notice it where you’re at at Home Depot Home Depot would be flat we’d be able to use levels we’d be able to build railroad tracks everything but the gigantic world would be one giant Home Depot again that’s what they believe I don’t even think you can live on a

Sphere as I’ve said you might be able to live on a sphere and I might be able to live on a sphere but we cannot live on a sphere okay it’s impossible to you know oh everyone’s at the top of the sphere and there’s no it’s just ridiculous but

If we were in that Home Depot and we attached one level to the next and it’s let’s say we per perfectly lined them up we line them up next to each other we superglue them that you would just according to Globe Earth you would just keep lining levels up forever but the

Levels would actually come back around 24,5 91 miles and connect back to each other even though we matched them up perfectly end end every 1ot level perfectly perfectly perfectly perfectly perfectly all the way on the ground perfectly perfectly for all 24,901 mil again I think that that’s ludicrous but

I understand the argument that if you say oh well they didn’t allow for any curvature when building this railroad track well you wouldn’t really you wouldn’t need to it’s not like if you lived on a sphere you would be like oh everything about railroad tracks is different no just build a railroad track

So I get that one argument but as far as saying as far as a level that gravity is the reason for a level no no again I get the argument where you could say well you can either believe in a giant sphere that everywhere is level uh but then you

Have to imagine that over long distances water curves Earth curves the oceans curve then you have to believe in upside down boats and then you have to believe in sideways boats and you have to believe in cruise ships upside down and you have to that’s ludicrous to me

Ludicrous now I know we were told it I get it but I’m just for yourself remember this because this is going to be a big theme going forward is whether we believe things based on things we were told by other men or whether we can actually figure this out ourselves we

Were told that the world pulls everything to the center you have no clue about that none whatsoever unless you believe in perpetual energy machines in everything you know this right here this lighter perpetual energy machine right now it’s pulling from all directions it’s pulling to itself pull

Pull pull pull pull and it will pull now and it will pull in a thousand years which is insane just a perpetual energy let’s see what Dave Weiss is saying hopefully got in a fight REM me to tell you about this wait about is that who I think it is don’t tell

Me goodness gracious look at these two we want to talk about some shills look at these two wow I can’t believe this just happened uh let me transfer over it is that for real or is did you CGI that in there uh I for he’s a Christian isn’t he

That is uh d t r and tune wow that is uh uh unexpected all right I guess you guys I guess you went to the event huh doesn’t he live like way I guess it is kind of no I guess he went from Minnesota um yeah rude sorry shouldn’t be

Answering people now all right let’s get back to what we’re talking about anyway um I just think that if we really think about it again if you believe that you’re going 1.2 million miles per hour right now you simply trust men there’s no other way to look at it there’s no

Possible other explanation besides we believe in what people tell us we’ve just and I get it it’s easy and I’ve said this before imagine how easy it is right now if you want to be a science believer if we want to believe in science let’s get up we’re done we’re

Done what do we need to do I’ll go watch TV and you know do whatever I don’t know watch football cool who’s going to tackle who and who’s gon to uh kick in the field goal for who because what difference is it making if you believe in science everything’s been decided for

You you just need to go around and say I believe in science and you can even make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year like Flat Earth I mean like uh B Man Dan uh by just going I mean his videos have become so bad and they want to call us

Scripters where he gets on there and like let’s watch this documentary about flat Earths and let’s make fun of it and then he like plays six minutes of the documentary and then comes back goes really I don’t know and then plays another two minutes that’s all for the

Time for my show today see you next week when I mean it’s like holy hell uh these guys have just found the cheat codes of being science like oh I can be in science not do any research just believe what other guys say and I’ll make fun of

Those that I think know less than me because I’m able to repeat these things that I was told fantastic for you anyway what do we at now uh Mark braa is responsible for Flat Earth who the hell is Mark Braun let me look this up because he kept saying that we all

Believe in he’s the first one who brought and he’s a Satanist who the hell is this person why have I never heard of him Mark Braun Flat Earth who’s he you talking about Mark Braun AKA quasi luminus I heard that name but I don’t know here Flat Earth was started by a blood

Cultist who are these people any claims of globe cultist or satanic Globe deception are immediately decimated when you realize that the first leader of Flat Earth before even Eric Deb or Mark Sergeant was Mark braa known more usually as quasi luminous he claims to be Satan himself wants to take

People to the Center of the Earth so that they can jump in the lake of fire and enter hyper hyp hyperboria he has convinced thousands of people to cut themselves and spill their blood oh the whole blood over intent thing yeah people realized that was dumb uh

Okay this guy’s just so upset said to the Christians if any flat earther claims the Bible is a flat Earth book number one no it isn’t number two I’m pretty sure the modern Flat Earth theory being started by a blood cult leader isn’t very Christian that’s fun oh what is this

What who is Mark Brawn quasi luminus does anybody is this person I mean why don’t I remember one video quasi luminus Mark BR I want to see like what year did he put out his first video see if that’s actually a true statement or if he’s just reading

Some [ __ ] uh quasi luminous on Instagram okay this is a research flatters video by Mark Brun quasi luminous explains reality explains the explains the what why can’t I watch these but doesn’t show Flat Earth and the Book of Life what are all these that’s not helping me that’s not

Helping me quasi luminous videos actually I’ll go to one of them if I can wait what are all these stupid they’re all not even on there anymore they have exclamation points by them hold on I want to see here if I can find any videos by him I

Just never heard that name so it’s when somebody tells me that because it’s like the same argument as people say it’s a scop and I I can disprove that just with myself now again you’d have to trust me so I realize it’s not proof for you but

It’s proof for me that there’s no way it was a uh scop because I wouldn’t have come to it when I did and how I did uh quasi luminous on Twitter joined January 2018 I don’t know about any of this I don’t know anybody ever heard of this guy why

Isn’t he on any debates why have I never talk to him or anything quasi luminous the Black Hole Sun explained let’s see this video is a certain date we’re going to go a little deeper into what’s really going on here take a look at something you you uh you’re giv all these

Symbols you know like plus it’s not even his channel it’s somebody else’s channel it’s in Japanese Tik Tok quasi luminus satanic flat earthers oh this come from mune this this guy might have gotten all his information from tun’s website because now I’m seeing satanic Flat’s quasi luminous real name Mark Braun

Claims he is Lucifer he is the creator of the oh sorry you guys probably want to see this let me bring it up browser what why is that the wrong hold on something’s wrong here what is the size all off for let me shrink this back down

I don’t know why that’s way off oh it’s because last night I was talking to or earlier I was talking Dave that’s why all right there we go now we’re better there okay blood over intent movement he instructs his cult members to do a blood ceremony and posted on YouTube he claims

Then they will be granted access to hyperborea a hole in the non-existent mount Maru he claims to have the Spear of Destiny in his possession and says it will unlock the entrance to hyperborea uh pancake Earth what typical verbiage of blood over intent so what is he’s actually severely mental ill

Boi oh blood blood over intent adherence promote drinking urine and menstrual blood uh they also claim there’s a mountain at the North po it say confirm blood over intent inherence uh so where is this guy’s Channel why is nobody even be able to S what is this suspected blood over

Intent adherence so you think Eric dubet and Austin Whit are doing blood over intent tune get a life dude why would you think Eddie Bravo is doing why would you think Dave White why would you think sha hibler holy smokes that is quaz lumus and Santo bacho video which one this

One so this is a depiction of eil this is the north Tree of Life Sounds like Luci for me look he’s just basically saying kill yourselves commit murders death destruction all this stuff you heard it uh I don’t see any he must not have his channel anymore I don’t see any

Channel of or any I want want to see evidence that he was a flat Earth starter or something oh wait here’s blood over intent videos uh avoid the light at death I take trap well I believe that Satan’s blood over intent early blood over intent by quasi luminus or somebody else um

No this is uh tun’s evidence that the Flat Earth is wrong this one minute video by mag do okay well I don’t subscribe to that I don’t cut myself or anything like that uh has CA luminous audio playing in the background while doing blood over intent oh he’s he’s got

To be satanic I gota has some same people in the comments saying similar things what oh here’s articles on Mark braa all right we’re getting somewhere the blood ritual that lives okay that’s in 2018 so he’s not the head of Flat Earth considering I was doing videos in in February of

2015 so you’re wrong he’s not the starter of Flat Earth and he probably uh no this is just crazy I don’t think that’s a smart to do but again to each their own I mean uh has picked up steam over last years decentralizing okay that does not prove

Anything all right well so far we got nothing out of that I don’t see any of that he is an original yet he posted in 2018 he does not agree with quas luminus what Eric has many similar ideas running parallel Mount Maru yeah well okay Tanner Stewart specifically admires defends

Lucifer Tanner Stewart mired Mark Bron’s video including his love of Lucifer in the description but we don’t see any of I don’t know who Mark Bron is anyway quasi luminous liquid Groove music quasi luminous blood Satan Matrix tricks Tik Tok videos teen accused of stabbing student to death what led to Gold

Causing I don’t know all right let’s go back to where we were that doesn’t look like there’s any teeth there nothing to grab on to nothing to write home about um we’ve got 2500 years before the sphere oh 2500 years the sphere has been proven again you just cannot if you

Believe that then you’re talking about from 275 BC until 1492 nobody decided to make a globe of the earth they knew the they knew the size of it and everything even though Columbus sailed barely a couple thousand miles and thought he reached India oh but they knew the distance of it because aristan

Figured it out he was within 1% sure he did and the way that he did it isn’t even a proper proof and neither is any of the proofs that they gave when they said oh we know the Earth to be a sphere because boats go over the curve no they

Don’t not when you don’t have Optics when you have just your eyes you can go out to the beach watch the boat go over the curve and then when you bring out your camera or telescope you bring the the boat back so the guys who said they

Saw boats go over the curve but didn’t have Optics were wrong that’s not what they saw with their eyes they saw boats disappear due to the angle angular limit of your eye that’s all now can science just admit that just to be honest if the Earth’s a sphere that’s fine but admit

Well yeah they because they thought so strongly about it in the past they made up a proof that really it wasn’t a proof but now we can prove it no no no they tell you the lie that like they proved it 2500 years ago with a sticks and

Shadows well what about this the small local Sun well there’s no way it could be small and local why not because it would burn us everybody you know it’s just so stupid it’s like really stretching and then he said Nathan Roberts is the doctrinal leader uh Nathan Roberts is a spazoid so I

Disagree uh he’s not my doctrinal leader and I don’t think anybody has ever claimed anybody is a doctrinal leader of flatter so uh that was basically Greg’s entire arguments we just summed them up I mean that’s how did you I thought was going to be writing things that were

Lies about the globe not his confusion there’s no there’s no Globe proof here there was literally zero evidence of a globe in a flat Earth globe debate I mean what what is this evidence he started out by saying but oh but maps and we Ed Maps yeah they Ed the Mercer

Projection to travel in boats too so what what of it does it mean that we then live in the Mercer projection map no so cartographers can do what’s called map projection you can mathematically have a map you can be a flat Earth and

You can put it on a sphere it could be a sphere Earth and you can put it on a flat map it could be a triangle Earth and you put it on a square map that’s what projectionists do that’s what cartographers do that’s it big deal and

Then he said oh but your Africa is three M 3,000 miles different I mean what is he talking about I mean the every map that is flat of course is going to have some uh uh now again not the AE map necessarily but I’m talking about just a

Flat like a mercer projection let’s look at this one let me go back here God I gotta move this where I can find it keep losing it there it is so like here I mean what’s crazy is that you can take even something like here of Africa and I don’t remember exact I

Think this right here that I’m drawing is 4,000 miles okay so from basically this side here to this little tip here maybe it’s 30 I don’t remember I think it’s 4,000 and then this here to here is 6,000 which doesn’t match at all I mean

On a globe if you draw the lines then you get 4,000 for this and you get 6,000 for this but on this if this is 4,000 then this is 10,000 but it’s not and again have you ever seen there is a real map that shows you the real sizes of continents uh let

Me see what that is here um map showing real continent so it says again how do we know we can’t get up there and check uh let’s see here is it the uh I thought it was a little bit more kind of more like this but even smaller

Pieces oh maybe this one no it doesn’t look right either not the one I thought that I oh maybe this one yeah so I mean this is kind wait what what the hell is this real country size is shown on Mercer projection this is Africa shut the hell

Up the hell’s going on oh this is nice too I’ve seen this one so like this is all the little little country cutouts or something so you can compare the sizes but really this is a shocking one to me is that this is Asia or like Russia I mean that’s crazy

Um let’s see here here if we get what’s this one here 1 Point area 9 Africa versus Canada actual size Pia anyway I thought there was a better map that I was looking kind of like this one uh even that one’s too still shows it too wide because this here would be

4,000 and this here would be six no nope so again this is what de was getting at is that it’s all a disaster it really is and it’s because I guess once you’ve made enough maps and once you can project things you can project it anything you want you could project

The map onto a corner so that it turns 90° somewhere and he said you can make the Earth be anything you want this well not necessarily you can’t like what’s your excuse going to be if you make the earth a pyramid how is the earth a pyramid we don’t we don’t have edges

There’s nowhere where we go over an edge 90 degrees onto another Edge like would necessitate a a pyramid so to me I don’t know uh where they necessarily get that what’s this that’s a funny looking map okay and I don’t see anything else here I look at uh what’s this

Here so I like this deception or this thing because this is really what kind of started everything for me is when I very first saw that on a map that kind of looked like well was just the one that they pulled down in school that the

Equator is like way too low right it was kind of like this okay so this map here that we’ve all seen before now the problem with this map is that the equator is down here okay so you’re like what or maybe where is it like here oh this map actually not bad the

One in school has it way too low is it this one yeah kind of like this okay so you can see the equator is running right here but this is different sizes you’re like wait a second why is it lower than halfway if the equator’s halfway and

Then I kind of learned about oh well the white countries are portray themselves as bigger Europe Russia America Canada blew themselves bigger and then made the Southern Country smaller so there you go why every world map is wrong how about that oh I like this one I actually have a program I don’t

Know if you guys have ever seen it so I’ve talked about it before real world real world paint it’s free just go to realworld paint.com it’s just like a paint program like um like Microsoft Paint but it’s a little bit better and I’ll show you something you can do with

It so let me save this oops hello file save as uh save imag as what is this at here uh okay me anyway I hate that new webp file drives me absolutely insane I cannot stand it every single time I have to go and edit you know just driving me

Crazy like why can’t the stupid companies just fix it already all right where are you at desktop sort by date just show you what’s cool about this map that you can okay so we’re going to bring up this open with real world paint open with real world paint okay so put

This over here so you can see it so you what you can do on a on real world p is take this map here for example can you see this I gotta move this out the way yeah okay so you can take a map like

This and you can just we’ll square it up a little bit better well you got to make sure that so let’s see so that’s these two should be touching so we’ll take from here and about to there is we’ll app no no I want to cut image

Selection no I guess apply there we go then we’re going to take this and put in some of this white okay what you can do is take Maps like this you basically go here and go to I believe it’s under image more Transformations yeah cartisian to Polar

So now right there we can see that uh it was off that’s why it didn’t Circle correctly but you can kind of start to play with it and say okay what do we need to fix does it need to have less so we’ll take a little bit less off

The top here like this see what we get if we do like that apply image more transformations cartisian to Polar maybe I would sh on the other way maybe should be a little bit taller but anyway you can see that you can take any

Kind of map like this and make it see if we go taller like this maybe it has to be a perfect square that’s about perfect a little bit short uh what is that size 8820 by 760 let me try that real quick image canvas size 820 by

820 that’s more like it and then really if you put you know let’s just say for example you have uh let me see if we go down here just trying to see if I made this fill it in with blue see if that comes out as Antarctica so image here Transformations car into

Polar there you go so you can see where and that’s probably too far away anyway that’s pretty cool though I that’s the only program I know that will do that um and you can usually take any like I’m trying to think of where is it from time and date I think if you

Grab something from time and date let me go time and date if you grab one of those Maps I think it perfectly shows it see time and date um I want Sunrise calendar oh no it’s not that it’s a sunal sorry sunal that’s the one I want it’s this the one that

Shows all right yeah so I think this map here if we get rid of these ads hello here how’ I get rid of that ad get rid of this want this out of the way oh that’s not working oh there we go nope this no

He but how do you get this stuff out of the way I don’t know how to get that out of the way I don’t think this will do it but let’s try it screen cap new yeah I’m pretty sure this is not going to do it

But it needs to be the full map did that save oh yeah sniping tool okay s that’s good save as desktop anyway that’s a real free program real world paint it’s what I do most of my stuff on and let’s get this back over here open Desktop sort by date modified yes there

We go let’s open this one okay and let’s see what happens if we do this one image transformation changeing the color attempted operation with failed code please verify that there is enough free memory what are you talking about what you just did on the other one let me delete these old

Ones okay let me try now go like this it’s even smaller than the other one why would that be image canvas oops genius image more Transformations C wow I’ve never seen this before what is this okay what sense did that make no idea let’s go resize real quick

Let’s go to 50% of the size okay now do image transation huh what is these why is that there oh man there was some something we saw the other day that was crazy where was oh I showed Dave but I don’t remember that when Dave and I were on

With that guy for our interview I found a uh ocean currents I want to see if I find it real quick just because it was cool ocean currents image and it looks crazy on the globe you’re like why would that even be the the the case come on show me yes is this

The one that moves so this just looks crazy like what this is the ocean currents they all go you know okay that seems crazy but if we take this save as let’s go get over here desktop yep desktop okay save all right now we’re g to open

This and watch this when you do it come on sort by date modified this guy right yeah this one okay so if we take this map and we put uh image more Transformations the polar it’s not the one we were looking at last this is not really quite right

Because it’s going to be squish more like this ah this one weird it’s not the same as we saw what we saw was that over here and over here it showed this um God I wonder why that’s a different map then let me just see if I can find the

Same one but so you can see there’s like a uh two spots now down near Antarctica that it almost looks like the water goes in and then out and it just makes zero sense but it does on a flat Earth because those are the exit gates but

That was a I wonder why that map oh hold on one second I might actually still have it I didn’t didn’t think about that I did save it the other day would it be here still yes we do this map H don’t do that wait what oh you can’t do that okay so

Now you see it this is the one I was talking about where I went uh let me go to pin again so this is the one I wonder why it’s so different because the other one didn’t show any kind of exiting area let me see desktop where was that sort by Dem

Modified rip you don’t need to think that long okay here we go all right so this is now the map here let’s get rid of that one this one okay so if we take this and we’re going to go cartisian to poar here right so now we got that’s that

Actually worked out perfect so whatever that map was this let me look again here so this map is kind of perfect because this will to Polar easily so go back here and if you did that to each one you could oh that’s crazy I wonder I would love to do that actually

Because this is a gif right so it uh if I bring this over here and how do you get the preview animation uh what I thought there was a preview button where’s the preview hold on a second what is this oh we have another version open okay I don’t

That weird I thought that you oh H I thought you used to be able to watch the animation oh there it is I knew it there we go so you can actually watch the animation here and if you went through I don’t want to do it right now

Take forever but if I well not forever if I went image uh more Transformations car oh I wonder if I can do it as a all them at the same time let me try this control control control control control control control control control control control control control down here is all the

Scenes of the GIF by the way you can make animations yourself on this by just making an image and then go to another image and then you just piece them all together down here like you can see like this so this is all the scenes of the

GIF GIF whatever you want to call it so I’m going to see if this works I don’t know if it’ll do all of them probably not more Transformations cartisian do them all it did it wow why did that one go like that oh it did this one twice

[ __ ] oh I go this one control control control actually do shift right oh come on this one to here thank you image cartisian toar Sweet let’s check out the new image all right so here’s our GIF now zoom in on this a little bit it like that and you’ll notice something

Really strange happens here like what is going on here and here why would our oceans for some reason just do 360s here well if you look at where Summer’s gate is Summer’s gate is straight out this way the other gate supposedly this way these might actually be water going into those

Channels and back out and again if you read iron Republic the guy talks about soon as they rode their book their boat into the Kass you can see it actually going off this way as soon as they got their boat into the crass they couldn’t get out because the current was so

Strong the current carried them all the way to through to the other side again just point that out that this does not make sense on the globe to me why would you have I don’t even know why this makes sense what the hell’s going on here even on a flat Earth current goes

Up above here and then comes that’s weird so anyway I still think this makes no sense why would you have current going this way and then it comes back into the cold current I mean it doesn’t even make sense yeah that doesn’t make sense to me uh

But again this explains a little bit of why everybody who goes circum navigation is going east uh because that’s the way the current goes and again it also just mean any of these boats that supposedly take this route and take a 100 days to get around Antarctica and then we figure out

They’re going like 10 knots when the boat goes 30 knots this explains a lot of that and then the difference between this and the sky is that in the sky every a th000 ft there’s a new level and you can find Wind patterns going in either direction so if you’re

Flying west to east you can get up to a certain height and those are the prevailing winds those are the what they call the trade winds or the jet streams but you can still find winds going the other way if you just go up a little

Higher lower a little higher or lower a little lower not a little higher uh let’s get out of here don’t save now we also have I don’t know if you guys have seen have you seen Elon Musk talk about planes uh to Joe Rogan

I know if you guys have seen that but I think there’s so much in what he says that people don’t recognize and again it’s because we were all taught [ __ ] lies let me bring this over here for a second see if I can find it just with a quick search uh

Elon and Joe Rogan plane see if he talks about here uh videos he says something very very telling if I can find it uh nope that’s not going to be that one this one considers building planes better design for a plane see it could be any of these mus

Design let me see oh wait Joe Rogan steps into Elon musk’s jet tracking debate okay don’t know what that is I have a better design for a plane I don’t know anyway I’ll find it it’s he basically says that planes maybe it’s this one let just here video currently unavailable now

That wouldn’t surprise me if they pulled that down because what he says is totally revealing he says that a plane flies based on the lift per drag ratio okay we all knew that but he says that as you get higher in a plane you can go

Faster for the same amount of energy as you can lower that’s something they don’t tell us they want to tell you that like oh as you go up you lose efficiency El us say he says that it’s you can go putting out the same output that you did

At 30,000 ft but if you do that at 50,000 ft you just go faster uh that’s that’s what okay well that’s what they’re doing to go long distances thanks for uh breaking that to us let’s oh another one video unavailable uh Elon schooling Rogan on planes because you have air in airplanes

Not getting new air in it is it is yes they have like a little hole Yeah they have a pump really so it gets it from the outside yes wow I didn’t know that and it’s like it’s the a airanes have a decent speed they have backup pumps

Through this not the right one though there a bit of leakage around the door exceed the in the in the cabin no it’s the same that’s the podcast that I’m talking about but um cyber truck has a better design for a plane Joan steps into plane tracking

Airplan design yeah I don’t see that particular video but oh this is the whole episode always speculated that aliens could potentially be us and be a better version you’re not find that very fact I know some people that got it so but it would be S flush with your

Skull so you no that’s not the right one anyway anyway if anybody knows where it’s at you can put the link in the chat for us that’s it was definitely this year um is this one try one other one what’s next after this ultimately think that you could have planes thought about

Planes for a long time planes really need a high energy density cuz you got to get up to altitude most of the energy is getting up to altitude and then once you’re in a low air density situation Cruise along takes very little energy once you’re in Cruise massive amount of

Energy to get up there an aircraft in cruise is a neutral force balance so it’s like it’s not accelerating so basically if you got a motor for a given Force you will just go faster as you go higher the air resistance is dropping exponentially as you go higher if you

Have a constant force then you will just go faster the higher you go the faster you go for the same amount of power it’s that they they don’t tell us that they don’t tell us that what he just said is revealing at least if maybe I’m the

Idiot I did not know that I did not know that that’s the case and if it is then I’m done arguing about North or South Plains because he just told us exactly how they do it you just go higher and again the pilots would never know Pilots don’t have to know

And the plane gets from point A to point B in a time that it’s told to get there so if it has to go faster then it will go faster and if it has to go slower it goes slower uh this is why you know planes don’t usually arrive an hour

Early never happens really need a high energy density cuz you got to get up to altitude most of the energy is getting up to altitude and then once you’re in a low air density situation you’re can Cruise along takes very little energy once you’re in Cruise so once you’re in

Cruise it takes very little energy to just go you’re basically the plane is you know basically uh I don’t want to say flying itself but you get it it’s not having to use much at all energy to get up there and aircraft in cruises a neutral force balance so it’s like it’s

Not accelerating so basically if you got a motor for a given Force you will just go faster as you go higher the air resistance is dropping exponentially as you go higher if you have a constant force then you will just go faster the higher you go the faster you go for the

Same amount of power it’s all about altitude like the air is very thick at sea level but my brain will explode if I do planes this is too crazy man my brain is overloaded there only 70 hours in the day what’s not that is uh big to me I

Think that that explains so much because we’ve all said what if they’re going and the crazy thing is we don’t know this the win speeds again if you go to even Bob’s wins Bob wins I always forget it’s Bobs or Bob Bob Bob wins thanks Bob if you go here and you

Change this to why does that do that okay if we go here and we change this to uh menu hello and we’re going to go to the wind at 250 HPA so this is at about 32,000 ft okay about 250 but 70 HPA is like at 45,000 ft meaning that they

Don’t tell us the winds in between 32,000 and 45,000 which are a lot of levels and it doesn’t tell us what 50,000 or 60,000 is once you get up to 10 HPA 10 HPA is like ridiculous it’s way way higher um who it’s crazy the winds up there at the North

Huh wait did I is it because I screwed up the map hold on let me fix the map I might have clicked it and moved it okay back to the vehicle no it’s still the same so you’ll notice here even at well let’s go to 70 HP so you

Can kind of get it so here mostly going the same Direction 250 mostly the same direction get a couple this way but there’s a lot of space in between there right and as we get this way we’re getting closer to the surface um but I’ve easily seen when you go here

That we see winds going this way and it’s just different levels right so again this one’s not telling it’s like and there’s nowhere go look online try and find me a spot that gives us the winds at altitude every th000 ft you’re not going to find it and when you find

These things that are hidden from you there’s a reason why there’s a reason why it’s hidden uh that they’re not going to tell you those levels it’s a reason why they lie about um Twilight that’s another one that we’re basically realizing now we have people verifying and it is verified

That everywhere on Earth right now is getting less time after Sunset that is impossible on the globe model should be right now in the South they’re getting more more and more sunlight after more and more light after Sunset and here in the north we should be getting less and

Less come December 21st it should flip-flop they start getting less we start getting more the truth of the matter is everybody on earth goes through the same thing at the same time why because we all experience a close Sun orbit like this during our summer

And then as it goes out here to their summer the Sun keeps doing that the bigger orbit here and so everyone on Earth is experiencing the same thing we’re all experiencing a faster sun the sun is moving FAS faster for everybody and then when it gets to December 21st

And it starts coming back then everybody on Earth will be increasing their time after Sunset even in the South because they’re all experiencing the Sun get smaller and smaller and slower and slower so the the proof the evidence is there it’s just a matter of whether or

Not you have any testicles and can actually stand up for yourself and say no I’m not going to believe these guys who who tell lies and tell me I mean evolution in and of itself should tell science that they’ve got a huge problem and you got people like Craig

Fight the fat shirt who said all scientists believe in evolution H that’s weird because you can go to disent from darm now these are all scientists so we can’t say all scientists because it’s not all them I’m skeptical ofal all scien We are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutations and natural selection to account for the complexity of life but but come on guys I mean I’ve been told by Lawrence Krauss that evolution is the only fact it doesn’t matter what you believe if you have to

Choose between God and evolution I would choose Evolution that’s what Lawrence Cross told me because it’s just fact we don’t have any fossils that were like you know in between species but yeah and Darwin said that if that was true then we would see millions of them but we

Don’t really need them because we still know it happened okay it’s like dark matter you know imagine if I came out in a debate and tried to say when somebody says Jaren explain to me how the Sun and Moon stay up in the sky and I said oh

That’s easy dark lift they’d be like what the hell is that dark LIF that’s what we call it they’d be like show me evidence of dark lift what do you mean it has to be there the Sun and Moon are up there that’s literally what they get

Away with with dark matter that’s the exact same thing their Theory doesn’t match at all so they just Place something there and said n well it’s there dark energy is there dark matter is there where show it to me well we have never found it but it’s there it

Has to be would we get away with dark lift so from now on everybody let’s believe in dark lift okay it’s no different than dark matter if they get away with it why not us dark lift does it all and we’ll just use it for everything if something else doesn’t

Work in the flat I know dark lift dark lift does it again science gets away with murder they get away with everything that they want and these guys are like you know show us a model do this do and like OD said what first of all again I have to keep saying this

That you know that every Coastline that’s been mapped every single Antarctic trip all these different uh government boats they either took people’s children meaning the military they took people that were in the military to go down there or they were heavily paid by government money and then they’re like why don’t you have

Anything for Flat Earth yet I don’t know because I’m not allowed to use the military and I’m not allowed to just pay people any amount of money I want and I’m not allowed to have kings and queens provide for all my ships and have me I

Was reading the other day a book about Columbus and it was telling you what he put on that boat and it’s like when you hear this 1,800 tons of this and 1,200 tons of that you’re like holy [ __ ] just packing this boat with spices and everything you can possibly imagine but

It’s still it’s all government money it’s all kings and queens money it’s never been private individuals so why would you think now that a couple of guys in front of their computers at their houses should be able to provide for you what it took 300 years 400 years

Or maybe less and entire governments and entire military Expeditions filled with hundreds of people it’s Insanity it’s insanity and to believe like you I can’t be fooled there’s no way great oh it’s a th% of sphere how do you know you just got up there and said you don’t know [ __ ] you

Just got up there and said that but you’re willing why do we put why because I know why the reason why is because people feel like there’s no way any kind of deception can have that kind of hold on so many people that’s the whole thing

And they uh refuse to look into it because our whole world would fall apart I mean we saw that Greg’s world would fall apart okay he would lose his freaking mind he would commit suicide so we better hope that he doesn’t come to Flat Earth because if he does he’ll also

Come to a chair and a rope it’s just facts Nathan Roberts is the doctrinal leader he’s not okay so that’s basically all I got out of that was that Greg has nothing he gave us nothing and uh did a whole bunch of nothing it’s good didn’t

It all right we are going to take a smoke break so you can do that if you’d like then we’ll come back and uh I’ll finish the show and we will cover a couple things we’ll give away a ticket we’ll talk about Caleb and fight the fat

Shirt um I don’t think we need to do more on Mason’s because um I think I’ll wait for Marty I want to have Mary here and he can just say why I’m wrong and that people who play dress up in lodges and hold secrets and only help their

Brethren are is actually a moral position it’s actually a good thing it’s a cool thing I think more people should be Masons really more more secret should be held in the world I think everybody should have their own clicks and then keep all the secrets to yourself don’t

Tell anybody else and if they tell your secrets you cut their tongues out and if they tell you their secrets you cut their bowels out and then spread them like the ashes across the earth I think this is probably our best bet to be moral men let’s keep secrets and

Threaten to tear each other’s bowels out all right so I don’t see a problem with it but there’s no use in going on and on about people should know my feelings about Masons they should know uh that pretty much throughout at least the United States history you can I mean why

Is the you know Mason and the satanic star on the dollar bill you’re telling me that’s by chance take a dollar bill I’m sure you’ve all seen it I need to show you but I will anyway because people say you didn’t show US dollar bill reverse uh here we go don’t okay that’s

Good enough so we go here of course so there we go all right so this is the New World Order come on doing that thank you what is going on thank you so you’ll notice here that if you take the first letter of each of

These I’m sorry n o and m and then the A and the S and if you draw that line M to a a to s s to o wait where is it m a s o n now I oh this o that’s what it is okay

I was going to the first one so then you get the star there and then this one a I don’t like this thing zooming in is that correct hold on am I saying that right m is there so you got m to the a a to the

S s to the o no how would you get the n oh I’m confused let me see if I’m missing this why not seeing it right uh masry on dollar bill why am I not drawing that star right anybody draw the star oh this one so what was I doing

Wrong ASO and then these ones okay oh this one’s probably better all right this is good M A oh so it’s not I guess spelled correctly I thought it was m a s this way m a o s n still it’s weird to me I don’t

Know if that can be by chance that you can draw the star and it works again look at that again it’s not spelled correctly I guess I mean it’s not like in order I thought it was in order but there’s more I mean obviously the pyramid the 13 steps again

You can go to de Plaza and find the 133 uh steps of the you know that daily paaza deily Plaza which is right there I saw it when I went and saw the um spot it’s so weird if you’ve never been there it’s crazy to see because it

Really looks like a movie set it really does I guess cuz we’ve all seen it probably was a movie set but also just because of the it’s so small it’s I don’t know when you watch on TV or anything it seems like it’s a big area

And then you get there and it’s like it just seems so small seems like it’s a movie set now where’s that de Plaza um what is that thing called over there de Plaza stetch or column I don’t know what that thing’s called come on I can’t even talk or think oh here we

Go so this is and it was made by some Freemason and this is right out this right next immediately to the right here is where Kennedy was shot and it’s got the 13 Stacks there you’ve also got the same with the little hand up there and then

You got the what is it at the uh uh trying to think is it the Federal Reserve building or is the FBI building Federal Reserve statue no it’s the uh then it’s the um FBI headquarters statue now you know which one I’m talking about guys what’s the one with

The two hands at the top of the columns the CIA CIA columns where is that damn building no maybe it was at the uh two columns fed Reserve where am I thinking where is that you know what I’m talking about right there’s the two sitting outside they’re basically the same same thing I

Think they’ve got 13 steps on them as well let me look at the chat somebody’s got to tell me where’s that where am I thinking of whoa I see my name a bunch of times what’s wrong something wrong with the stream oh hold on it’s got to catch

Up it’s flying through all your chats but somebody tell me what I’m thinking of somebody help somebody help what’s happening hold on a second I’m seeing people are all upset now Dave wants on is he calling me I don’t see Dave is somebody gonna help me with this

Question wait I was just about to say talk about the Federal Reserve well done what is that where it is the Federal Reserve where is that statue I’m talking about somebody help me out here IRS building okay thank you that’s what it is IRS building to columns or something what they’re

Called now IR building r a statue anyway it’s just pointing out that there oops to Statue Dave is waiting where what you talking about I can jump on and tell my mun story let you in where streamyard I have to open it again that’s you’re still open I’ll do it right

Now I am not finding those damn buildings it’s not the IRS then IRS Building statue all right Dave I’ll open up right now no it’s got the two hands on top it’s totally freemasonic I don’t know where it is what is’s this at oh that’s the satanic

Temple okay let me bring Dave on here one second and we will see what Dave’s doing he’s got a mune story they’re new best friends I guess let’s see here if we go to here K Dave go to the same link as last time and it should work

A second let’s see have this one no no no no no NOP okay now I’m in you can come in I’m decent now I’m decent Now Dave oh low Lowry I didn’t even say I was gonna open this phone line what are you doing Lowry’s we get a view into Lowry’s

Bedroom if you guys want to see let’s hope we don’t see anything crazy name Dave we’re waiting for you he’s probably not watching the show it’s probably Chum and he should be any second and this is uh let’s get a live look into the bedroom of

Lowry wow that’s nice is that a wuang signal out there symbol can’t really tell too far away for me to see all right we’re waiting for Dave here any second and I’m going to real quick find that damn oh by the way I kept mentioning this and I found a diff

Couple different numbers but number one Pastor Greg lock has a net worth of so far I’ve seen 10 to 15 million I’ve seen 129 million then he was talking about oh some guy in Texas is going to pay for me uh you pay for it did you know that if you have $129

Million and you pay um 30,000 for a trip somewhere okay that’s the equivalent of somebody who has $100,000 paying $111 just you know so uh if that jackass can’t pay $11 for a trip then he’s got problems uh Dave are you coming see what happens when I listen to the chat there

Like Dave wants on Dave wants on Dave wants on and then there’s no Dave so this is a good good quality entertainment here all right let’s continue somewhere else until Dave shows up want to see what else I have here we did that thank you to the sponsors JJ

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On that morning and then you’re just going to be upset at us so don’t do it that’s what I’m basically trying to say and Dave is not here yet all right we’ll leave that open low is not here yet we’ll leave that open what is this okay don’t do that one either

All right so let’s get to do we finish everything here we did that we did that yep okay we’re good we don’t I mean as far as the debate between Caleb and ftfe uh again to me I think that it’s pretty clear that Craig was using now

He’s going to deny that again it’s you know I don’t expect him to admit it so it’s not doesn’t surprise me uh that’s what you should expect so he’s going to deny that but I think it’s very clear I think anybody who watches that would be

Able to see it and then he made the mistake because I probably wouldn’t have been able to call it out I just thought it was kind of going on and was like how would I prove that and he’s just going to say he’s not and make me look bad but

Then he came back at one point and said oh my my Discord is saying this this and this and then it hit me okay well now you admitted that you’re looking a Discord over there that’s the computer I’ve been watching you look at the whole time and a couple times you read answers

When it wasn’t uh we can actually look at that real quick while we wait just to show that again I don’t think that’s the uh I wonder how often globers do that that they’re going into debates and using teams of 10 to look up all these answers

Um for them let’s see if we go to jism all right and we’re going to here and we’re going to the live show no yeah and Caleb and I’ll just show you a couple parts where we can see that’s clearly happening let’s see here in in our X

Conversation that it’ be based on the scientific method but you seem to be scientific method you’re not using the scientific method by Einstein right that’s my very dishonest answer the question Craig if I show you a video hold on I’m talking you’re gonna I know my the start of my

Start of my sentence interrupted the middle of yours let me see if we can find so he does get to this point where he’s reading answers from that computer over there and it actually looks incredibly funny because he you know I don’t know if you guys know this but you definitely

Can tell when somebody’s reading because like the um the M the miky experiment in prometer experiments and things like that when you read the paper he with the things that he’s talking about he says that there’s no Optical experiment ter that would be able to show that and by

That Optical experiment he means like an ineter he doesn’t mean to there isn’t other ways yes he do to show that the Earth is orbiting the Sun there’s many ways to show that the Earth is orbiting the Sun you can dismiss satellites that’s great if you want to just you

Know I know it’s something that FL love to do is just straight out dismiss evidence so that’s fine weing pales again you going to let me talk or do you just want to not let because that’s another way flat riers love to get over evence not let him right so go Craig we

Know that there is a pressure of 14.7 PSI and we it’s here awesome we only see the apparent Horizon because guess what Greg we live inside the atmosphere buddy there’s no situation where you can remove all of the atmosphere so it’s always apparent it always moves I don’t

Even think he’s listening here he’s not even listening to him because he’s having to read what he wants to say next from this group of people I guess based on temperature differentials and atmospheric conditions so you can not claim that the Horizon is a physical location the definition of horizon is

The apparent location where the sky meets the ground I’ll concede my last 10 seconds I think that makes it very obvious K 10 seconds I mean a minute when you’re ready Craig I muted you by the way I’ve got a minute you say yep yeah so um the the Horizon is a

Physical thing on a sphere there is an edge that you can see the sphere doesn’t have an ed Ed obviously but when you’re looking at a point you see the Horizon which is the effect of the fact that a sphere has a curve um and that position

That distance to the Horizon from you doesn’t physically change that distance that physical measurable distance doesn’t change how is it measurable physical measurable difference doesn’t change what do you mean how could it be measurable if you just said that it’s never in the position that we see it the only thing that

Is theth the light has traveled if Med right so how what are you measuring then if it’s measurable because if you’re measuring the light that’s traveled then it’s wrong that the light is traveling through has varying density and temperature that means the light path will do weird things and you will see

Refractive effects but it’s measurable but what we see isn’t the same as the physical thing because we don’t see things we see the light coming from things and the way the light has traveled doesn’t physically change the actual position of things okay time let’s uh go to a new

Topic I think we’ve expanded that one enough uh who wants to name the topic spinning faster at certain latitude and longitude lines does it spin faster or observers there’s faster tangental velocities we’re talking about one specific reference frame of one obs server at one longitude and latitude

Line I don’t care which one you place it at hold on let me get out the point because you’re not understanding if you place one person at the equator is that person’s measurement of the tangental velocity of the Earth’s actual assumed rotation is it inertial or is it

Noninertial see what he’s doing here look it the tangental velocity well that would be inertial yes good how do we measure an inertial velocity we we we’re not measuring the inertial velocity we calculate the tangental velocity based on the rotational velocity in the distance away from the

Center question no no DAV I did I said we don’t do it I did answer your question maybe what’s the fult pendulum doing then measuring the coris forces applied at different latitudes the corol of forces applied at different latitudes yes if I don’t know why this difficult for people either it’s like

And Craig has to like make up something he says oh it’s not the same it’s they’re saying it’s completely equal whether it was the universe moving or the Earth moving the results would be the same or else you don’t understand relativity dtse what’s up what am I

Looking at I don’t know you’re looking at yourself you want to see me oh wait sorry I got to put this one over here uh let move this over for a second we’ll get this one back let me get let me get rid of Lowry Lowry was in the back room for some

Reason actually he’s not there it’s just his bedroom hey go through the chat and play I put a link in uh I I texted no I put a link in the telegram play play play the link my and your Telegram and your telegram yeah okay what is this

Link is this a tune just gotta watch it it’s 10 seconds play this put on a show okay we’re gonna watch right now hold on let me bring it up okay let me bring up this everybody can see it with sound yep here we go you

Guys ready for this we don’t know what’s going to happen but we’re going to have fun with here we go it’s only 4 seconds not very long this is called [Applause] gravity oh you know Dave I thought that uh I thought that I was gonna have a I

Don’t know I thought that Daniel was going to have an easier time I’m like ready to go to the globe now based on everything that Greg had to say that’s what Matt became a glober too yeah I just there was so much evidence it was literally like constant evidence for the

Globe that I was like dude it’s overwhelming now at this point I don’t think that we can keep doing this we can’t keep Shilling like this Dave anymore did you know that you that ton said that you’re possibly involved in blood over intent I also brought that up

On today’s show is that recently it’s on his website I don’t know like did you hear that whole Greg lock saying about Mark Brawn is the head of Flat Earth I’ve never even heard of the guy so we looked him up it’s it’s it’s quasi

Luminus you know who he is I know the name like I don’t know who he is though yeah so I guess he was doing the blood over intent then we found some link to tun’s website that said all these people were involved in blood over

Intent there was you and witz it like do you think discussing it we were discussing the idea of it for a while never did it yeah no I remember us talking about it but he he may seem to think you guys were in on it or

Something so um what was I gonna say the um you know you know else pissed me off when he [ __ ] went after Mark Sergeant yeah what’d he say like he’s not one of you well well here’s the thing first why is he care if Mark Sergeant hurt Flat

Earth it sounds like he was a flat earther that was hating on Mark Mark but he’s supposed to be a Christian Bible you know loving preacher and Mark’s mother is getting old and none of his siblings wanted to take care of her so Mark agreed to live with her and take

Care of his mother right because he did live in he lived in in Denver first or lived in Colorado yeah and he moved in with his mother to take care of her rather than putting her in a nursing home right like like I almost I like he

Was gon to call me up on stage and I had like I was GNA go over the East West thing the the Sund dial and something else I was gonna just bring up those things saying you’re totally wrong but what I really want to say is you know

How unchristian and unloving the fact that you’re making fun of Mark for taking care of his mother which is the honorable thing which most people don’t do they just stick their mothers in nursing homes and the weird thing about that too is that that the movie is a hit

Piece so of course they’re going to make it look like he lives in his mom’s basement that’s the whole point of the movie does live in Mom’s basement right well of course they’re going to play that up I mean that was they wanted that scene where he says the next scene he’s

Coming out of his mom’s basement yeah no [ __ ] I know but it it and and you know why he STS in the basement because that’s where the nice department is in the house yes right yeah but I thought his first evidence was great the the guy that said interesting in that behind the

Curve movie I mean that is probably the best evidence that the globe has it it totally amazing and the whole he doesn’t understand what the East and West thing is D part was so stupid on my show you have to check my show I had this list of

All of his lies and East West confusion we had uh he says that because he knows the 200 because he’s read those 240 verses and you haven’t he knows more about the Flat Earth than you that makes sense uh that’s the other thing did you

Hear me yell at him when like we’re like why is he reading Nathan Robert’s list that we all don’t agree upon right no that list no we don’t half the things on the list like like why don’t you debate what Dean said rather than pull up a

Straw man list that we’re not interested in Dave he literally gave zero Globe evidence zero zero yeah none like is in zero yeah Sundial only works on a curve Sundial works because you point the Gomen at the Northstar that’s why it works uh don’t believe in dreams in the

Bible he says but the entire Revelation is a dream uh he says a level only works because of gravity I’d explain that believe in in NASA or Disney you know the the the connection but he believes in planets oh really where have you seen a planet he doesn’t believe in anything

Because NASA told him yeah but he believes in planets right yeah I did explain that one show planets and the whole 2500 years the sphere has been proven even though we’ve disproven that time and time again that if they did see boats going over the edge they weren’t

Going over the edge because we see them with our eyes over the edge too and then we realize they’re not so that means that the entire proof is gone did you like my D video I sent you which one I sent it in telegram come on T you’re supposed to telegram’s supposed to

Inform you the one we just played no the the the actual oh no no I have not seen this because I was doing I was in the middle of a show I was doing a live stream I know but you told me here we got we’re watching hold

On play it without I can’t see I do and he hopes to continue the love quiet down I want to hear this D not you’re talking okay go so jiren wants to wish you the best he’s giving you 100% one day pass today he loves you and he hopes to

Continue the love I love jar hey I’ve been watching some of jaren’s videos just to get ready so appreciate you jar later later Dean and he’s right my wife is a foulmouthed heathen so it actually is kind of true just was rude and listen he’s the first one that called Karen be

A witch before all of us knew it that’s that’s true he he was trying to inform us trying to warn us before time it’s good guy break yeah uh yeah know I thought he did great tonight I mean I can’t think of anything I think that the uh clouds

Behind the sun is probably the worst uh worst evidence that we have but that besides that everything else was good no there was something else that he did also and then Austin and I looked at each other like yeah no maybe it was the clouds behind the sun yeah I mean that’s

Just kind of easily explained and again it’s because the sun is not that we see is not real so there’s no clouds behind the not real thing it’s not real it’s a projection there’s there’s something to the local sun and from some angles I think that there is some intermixing but a lot

Of sure whatever yeah but I think if otherwise if you’re talking about clouds behind then you’re talking about a physical sun and then that would that would be measurable and things like that yeah like the sun on the moon they can’t be the same size because they both can’t go around

The top of the earth and be the same size that doesn’t work oh no and take the exact same path I’m like oh so you don’t know anything about the model and and and the whole thing with the maps I mean Le’s map is way better than the

Globe map and then what he described about the he’s like you know North becomes South but east and west they never end and you can’t do that on the flatter like no that’s exactly how it works you can’t do it on yeah it works

On a globe that way but in the South it proves the Flat Earth I’m telling you I’m doing my vertical gyro in an airplane with Scientists with with uh every I’m going to do it I’m going to get it done Dave I want you to so we

Just listened to Elon Musk on Joe Rogan say that with planes it’s a neutral Force if you’re not accelerating so he says so you can go the higher you go the faster you go with the same output like that’s the that’s the secret I mean then they’re just getting higher and they go

Faster that’s it it’s like we we always struggle with this question about the planes in the South I don’t really struggle with it but I mean that’s now you have Elon Musk admitting that you can go higher and faster outut huh and how pilot even know you they

Wouldn’t right right so I mean it’s wait it’s putting out the same thrust and it has less drag but it also has less to push off but maybe there’s a balance there he says there’s a balance there that’s a neutral Force which I didn’t know that but it could

Be could be I don’t know we have to I’m going to look into that further um for sure also that thrust Works in space so then would have to work at high altitudes also just just throw the bowling ball behind you and you’ll fly forward it’s

Very easy yeah yeah you go around the Moon a couple times and ejects the mass and you go right back to Earth yeah uh also the whole thing about ball meaning circle is like no what he basically just told like a circular argument that oh well actually when it says Circle it

Really means when it says ball it really means Circle but if you looked at the definition of ball it means Circle Matt you also are going back to the globe yes he went back to the glob after that too yeah you know the evidence was

Just too too stack Dean brought a lot of evidence and a lot of scripture but honestly for me it’s about the emotion it’s who can do the best pirouettes on stage that’s how I pick brought so much emotion I just like I jumped out of my chair a few times with

Excitement did you guys hear me when I yelled at him could you guys hear me I didn’t hear anything on on the video now like when they was doing the list I finally just scream I I had I had a little little meltdown and and it stopped hey show the crowd how spread

Apart my legs are so that we can be on the same level oh so I can stand next to day holy [ __ ] I didn’t even know we go uh I’m always surprised that Dave is is tall as he is when I see him right that that cut it out that automatically

Muted that that was crazy was fing Greg yeah yeah we were all excited we thought Austin was going to get up there and just [ __ ] on everybody and then they got [ __ ] on ready to go goon cried a little bit because he didn’t get to go up it’s

All right it’s all right we’ll get him in the future you want to um you guys know who Trey Smith is yeah let me talk to Trey um where is Trey and MC T was really there there he is hold on oh yeah did I sent you a picture yeah I thought

Maybe you photosh I here’s Trey Smith Trey man I love your stuff man watching your stuff on dinosaurs for a long time really good stuff well thank you very much man either thank you very much I’m sorry to hear that no it’s good stuff I mean i’ I’ve been trying to tell people

For the longest time what’s going on there quite a um uh this was quite a quite a thing tonight Darren went back to the ball after this he’s a baller now well I tell you um so so we’re here um uh I I tell you this was pretty uh

Pretty intense what went down tonight so did seem intense Trey are you are you Flat Earth uh well I’m still looking at it okay so uh come on my show we’ll talk about it yeah well I tell I tell you what I tell you what um I uh you know here’s

What I think guys is that we’ve got you know I you know you know this was actually just a really fun event to watch and uh and I really recommend in DAV got a big smile on his face so um uh this there was a debate tonight between

Dean Odell and Greg Lo at Greg locks church and um and I really recommend people just go watch the had and enjoy they called the cops on us too they the cops came to everybody yeah he called the cops security I videoed it like the security surrounded the stage you know

In like bulletproof vests oh my goodness then then they called the cops like four cop cars came and they they kicked us all out who was there that uh why was Greg saying at the beginning that there was people there protesting or something outside I didn’t see that um he said

Somebody didn’t didn’t want them to be there or something well the event was the event was packed and it and it’s and it started pretty well and um um I you know I just um I there you know um so um well I’ll tell you this why don’t

You just go watch the actual debate okay we’ll do that we watched it yeah yeah no no no I know but so um he’s telling anybody that’s thinking about watching it he’s just saying go watch it it’s a good good discussion and you gotta save it jar because they they pulled down the

Whole stream already oh they did yeah okay well I’ll save mine oh they did yeah from where they took it down they off it’s off their website already who the the church oh okay okay all right take well I tell you what guys you’re

Very loved and um I’m G to get a water over here and um thank you very much man Trey you’re awesome thanks for doing all the work on dinosaur stuff love it all right he’s gone um just some just some other people here this reminds me almost

Of Vegas it’s a little bit like Vegas except there’s no slot machines oh man there’s no 14 Cent ticket for you to steal no no is Dean right there um where’s the I thought I just saw walked by you but I guess that wasn’t him I don’t know I saw

Some bald guy go by no well never mind guy from The Iron realm was a different ball guy the guy from the the um not the iron realm the um the mechanical realm if you if you see uh Dean tell him I want to debate him on whether or not I’m this the

Antichrist okay are you out we’ll do it on Deb ISM um Let me let me see where de went he was here a minute ago um he might have gone how many people you think are there tell my story okay yes so everywhere go everyone’s like hey

Picture seem to be pretty popular and um all on walking out after the debacle and a guy hey Dave you know and I reach out I’m like hey how you doing I shook his hand I’m like and what’s your name and he goes come on I go look right in the

Face goes I’m looking at him and he goes come on and he goes to put his glasses on I’m like mun I’m like mun and I go I’m like the hell are you doing here he’s like oh you know and uh and let me tell you something he’s he’s like pudgy and and

Like mey he’s like disgusting and wait and I I have to tell you like I um and he has a a piece of paper with like a graph on it and a whole of things he goes here he goes this is what we’re going to debate when when you debate me

On jiren’s show and I I’m not debating you I’m not debating you and and then I’m I’m like I’m like all right I gotta do a selfie for jiren so I’m like I can’t believe I’m gonna do this I can’t believe I’m gonna do this

I’m saying it out loud and I I go and I hold it out to for selfie and he starts leaning in I go don’t touch me take the picture and he goes and somehow he goes he goes uh I I think that you really believe the Earth is

Flat and I said jiren thinks that you believe what you say is true I go but I know it’s not I know that you do this because you’re probably in some deep trouble and you’ve agreed to do this to avoid being in that trouble and he just looks at me and he walks

Away but now let me tell you the other thing you know about like uh good energy versus demon energy like I think I have good pretty high vibration I think I have good positive energy and truth I have the truth spirit in me and this guy is evil

Lying satanic scum my hand still feels messed up I’d go watch it I’ve watched it twice already and I’m telling you my hand has like this weird horrible energy feel to it I want to get like a wire scrub brush some energetic thing happened when I

Touched that demon yeah he wrote me the other day on Facebook and it said uh what what are the chances that Dave debates me on your show I’m like I don’t think that’ll ever happen but I’ll ask him but I didn’t even ask you because that’s how sure I was it wasn’t gonna

Happen zero did you see the picture that I did take a selfie with him I sent it to you on telegram we saw everybody saw it okay you showed it yes but he in person like you know online he looks like a pretty handsome guy he’s a marshmallow he’s a freaking disgusting

Marshmallow lying deceitful marshmallow doesn’t he live like up north somewhere like I no idea where he lives but uh milwauke or something I was disgusted energy field him yeah here’s a run Boston Bear Run Boston glad we set up the stream with with Austin’s camera because it was just straight the whole

Time the stream was going um we didn’t watch that one because you know they they took the stream down and like erased the chat already we watched it on uh another Channel not not Austin’s because Austin’s was a little bit worse sounding you watched it on their stream

He had their stream but now it’s on his channel he record so heed it all on jar with commentary with polls and with so it’s even better thanks for doing that thanks for staying up late bro no problem it’s not that late I’m on the west coast it’s

10: you know that time Z thing we’re on a globe yeah I I sleep like 3 to 9 so I’m actually several hours away from bed yeah that’s funny um who else we got here let see let me see if I can find Dean is Dean

Still around Dean sure he is Dave the best part is when he said if he met you then the Earth would spin I know he called me out twice yeah but he but by saying that he’s saying that if he met you the Earth would spin that’s like saying that the Earth

Doesn’t spin um I yeah I don’t know like like he’s making stupid jokes like and you did you could you guys see the people like in the front row that would stand up and they’d be like yeah no no they the camera didn’t show that it was it was

Like the old Revival stuff oh man they’re all like that though it’s like my reminds me my brother-in-law’s Church yeah it it was it’s unbelievable how how did I tell you that my brother-in-law wrote in a book that says I’m going to secretly get mavi to like space those

Are fighting words he what he wrote in his book that he’s secretly going to get Maverick to like space so now I have to kill him so let see what happens great yeah Dean’s gonna not Dean uh Greg’s gonna get us up in that balloon yeah the

The balloon goes 120,000 feet which we already have balloons that do that for a about 49,000 less yeah I know he got him down to $50,000 yeah we can do that for 49,000 less way to go it don’t you think that’s one of those things that you just

Pay for and you never get to go and it’s just rip off well I don’t doubt that they might be able to put people up in balloons eventually uh 120,000 it’s literally a blimp on a balloon yeah in a capsule and I’m sure the windows are gon

To be grounded 100% and again even that I think that they they maybe want people to have a wider view because if you have a wider view you’re going to perceive a curve oh absolutely yeah it’s not a curve like a sphere it’s a curve of a

Circle yeah which it has to be so again I me through a plane window you’re never going to see a curve because you don’t have enough view yeah but up high enough you have to see a circle because you can only see the same distance in every direction

What does that equal doesn’t you can’t have a flat line that just goes ever forever flat straight out it wouldn’t wouldn’t make any sense see in a circle and then that’s going to be your curve and then a little tiny curve on the edge of the glass and you’re on a sphere

Right it’s very simple uh and you know if you ask Peggy what’s the best thing about being in space she’ll tell you it’s seeing the curvature of the earth you know it’s great stuff like that from NASA such important information when they have time to look at it because the

Other times they’re doing science right there’s a lot of science going on science over here science over there yes science every day and uh rocking the science yes when do you come back um flying back tomorrow afternoon Paige go with you where’s your better half

Ah she she’s at home taking care of the cat that’s good that’s good yeah uh okay what do else I have to do today I think that’s Dean must have gone and get changed or something you going with him for that or something no no no okay I was

Confused why you’re telling me that all right Dave thanks for uh going live with us we appreciate it okay tell everybody much love from we have 1,00 people in my chat in my on my show today that one more time are we done yep oh I said there was

1,00 people watching today on my channel oh yeah I saw that that was nice very nice CRA that broke I think that breaks my record I don’t know I believe when we have the three on three debate it was about that many interesting that they took it down right away that’s that’s

Interesting yeah uh yeah because he he he looked like an ass oh he totally looked like an ass and he brought no evidence and then reading from somebody else’s book it’ be like you know I like what it goes you didn’t bring any blatter things up in the Bible I’m like

What that was the whole point of the presentation I don’t know and I and here’s the funny thing is I should have known this as how it was going to go because I kept asking the question of how do you argue the globe from a Bible perspective well you do it by taking

Some flat earthers stuff and then tearing that apart but providing no evidence for because there is no evidence of the Bible it’s the globe so that’s the way that you would do it I guess shouldn’t be shocked shouldn’t be shocked all right Dave we love you see you peace all right that was

David avocado Weiss Lowry oh my God can you hear me I can we I’m running I’m running a new uh audio in uh interface here kind of sucks do well what do you need me to do more volume and less volum I hear a little bit of my echo

Do you have it playing through your headphones you know it’s actually probably on the big screen out front hold on let me uh shut this oh maybe that’s it yeah I have a I have a thing I want to talk to you about I gotta ask you something personal yeah that’s okay

Talk to me well you know I am live before you try I know you’re live are you dating that girl are you talking about Nicole yes maybe I can’t get a real answer for that I still he an echo but um can I fix I’m trying I’m

Trying to uh let’s turn this down a little bit edit audio oh no it’s good no i s myself you good oops um that was the biggest [ __ ] [ __ ] show I’ve ever seen in hold on a second I screwed something up I removed myself and you disappeared okay there we

Go oh there we go how about that what do you make of that that whole thing that just happened uh well it’s kind of what you expect you cannot argue that the Bible is a globe Earth book so I mean what else could we expect him to do

Besides he tried to get away with just saying that certain things and I agree with him like some of those things that were in Nathan’s book are not flatter with evidence in the Bible so he got up there and was saying things that we agree with but it didn’t prove his point

It was just him basically setting a all the fallacies like most of us are like most of us are learning what the fallacies are right like um Austin is an excellent example like he’s like I would put Austin in front of anybody because he understands the fallacies right like

The the the fallacies of how you lie or how you make something in front of something and you know um get your arms around that and then make fun of the rest of it because honestly that was a [ __ ] show uh deod I don’t have a lot of

History of that guy I I I I know that you guys have a lot of history with him it’s not a lot of history it’s just he there was like a situation at the first was it the first Flat Earth conference or the second anyway one of

Those he he just he made a comment like uh Jesus is the only way to get to heaven and everybody in the crowd kind of started to get upset and somebody stepped forward and like spoke out saying you can’t say that and then um he basically on the next show that he did

Called my wife he said oh and jiren the the Antichrist and his foul-mouth Heathen wife so just from that point I never listen to him anymore but he does good work yeah I I thought he showed up I thought he showed up like at least for the community in general I mean whatever

You know disagreements you have with him I don’t have a lot of disagreements with him because I don’t know him that well I this is the first night this was like the Super Bowl of like I guess Christian preachers that are like you know breaking the curve or whatever that’s

What I that’s what I took from this whole thing I was like so who are these guys because I I I haven’t followed a lot of Christianity in my life so I’m like no me neither okay so we have didn’t it feel like it was like this is

A Super Bowl there were a bunch of people rolling up there in a church a tent Church in Nashville right well we haven’t heard a lot of uh so there’s definitely the preachers that are starting to come along but they’re all very smaller right so like Dean odle’s

Got a small church I don’t think it’s very big I don’t know I wouldn’t be able to give you numbers but I’ve seen it it’s not a tent like that and clearly doesn’t have any kind of money like this guy does so right it’s like the first

Time we’ve had one of these Mega pastors if you will um which I guess you would call him that he’s not as big as others but he’s one of these Mega pastors that has supposedly I can’t find a good number I’ve seen anywhere from 15 million to 129 million in in net worth

So somebody like that is just good to get them to talk about it to their people because he’s got a huge like millions of people on his social media I cannot stand hearing my echo soon but I’ll get are you are you still hearing your Echo I can I don’t know if

Everybody else can hear if they can they stop watching the show do you want me to you want me to talk softer you can talk no I’m hearing myself has nothing to do with I hear you only once thank God I would have already hung up if I had to

Hear you and your Echo I’d be out of here you know I was the the big thing about tonight was like um I I was really I I saw for the first time I saw Dean actually his presentation was fantastic it’s good um and I know that also just

Because you would have bounced on him because you were you you left your mic open so like you were going to bounce him if he was going to [ __ ] up he didn’t [ __ ] up um the this lock I I don’t know anything about this lock guy I have no

Idea who this guy is but that was nothing but the complete all the fallacies a slur of adoms a slur of and he kept like doing little pettes and then like you know doing crowd pop stuff like you know saying did you watch did you watch his foot his foot was bouncing

The whole time and then he was shifting this thing and when I was like I immediately when I was watching I was like he’s already in trouble he was in trouble in the first five minutes of that debate but like most people don’t know how to look at somebody’s body

Language and what they’re doing and I was looking only at his foot and then I was looking at his arm and then I was looking at the way he shifted around his in his seat I mean and then you you brought up the point that he’s what we

Think he’s got $124 million from Local 8 now is the name of this website ite that says that he’s got a net worth of 129 million and then it says here too just the whole story about he was uh Accused by his Congregation of cheating on his

Wife with some girl and he got up on stage said no he’s never done he do not cheating with this assistant I guess it’s his assistant that he was supposedly cheating with he said no I’m a you know Christian man I would never do that I would never cheat on my wife

Then his wife divorced him and then he ended up marrying his assistant yeah well I me I’m just kind at this point in time I’m like this guy’s a total psychopath and I think I I think I put psychopath in the text in the chat about 20 times because every

Single thing that I’ve ever known about Psychopaths he was behaving that way he was behaving exactly that way it’s like there’s no person there that’s actually empathetic and responding into someone else to speak he was just preaching and I’m like okay so so that’s what he

Thinks he’s supposed to to get up to I’m going to preach the no no no no no he he had nothing on anything Dean actually look I don’t know your history with Dean I I don’t have a history with Dean either I just told you that was the entire

History okay yeah so like from my perspective he covered the talking points relatively well he did can’t say as the community as the community covers it right and I was like oh that’s that’s really good you’re actually doing this and then this guy comes up and just goes

Into full preacher mode and I I honestly I was like is this an act are they working together that was the one thing I was I was like some people said that originally they thought he was going to you know but that didn’t look like it to

Me I I I I I was just like this is it’s kind of too good to be true from a you know from people of the fa Community to say is this really happening because they gave Dean a lot of a lot of window at the front well he said that have as

Much time as he wanted that was the thing yeah and then the then loot came in at the end and just went into preacher mode I’m like got is this a show I think here’s the problem this is the problem when these guys who have

No research on this I mean he needs to think to himself oh this guy’s put in years versus me who’s put in days and should have recognized that that’s not going to look good if you don’t have your ducks in a row he clearly didn’t and didn’t look good it didn’t look good

But I can’t figure like I can’t figure out like it are they is this was this a a thing that they wanted to go together with or like a thing or a show for people to to listen to because it really looked bad to me like Dean showed the

[ __ ] up right yeah and delivered and then lock literally looked like a [ __ ] ass after that he did look really bad and I’m just like I’m I’m I need to I think some of these guys feel like really feel like globers feel like they have no nothing

To lose because you can’t they’re like well I can’t be wrong I believe this and it’s whatever you know all these scientists can’t be wrong and these guys on the internet are right so they feel like this false sense of security I think that Greg felt that way he just

Feels like oh Flat Earth is stupid and I’ll just look but he didn’t he was in a place that all of a sudden had 50% of the crowd not on his side so he’s used to those preachers can get up there and say anything they can literally say

Anything and the crowd just Hoots and hollers and amen and you preach it and so for somebody like that to get up in a contentious situation like that they’re not used to that at all he’s not used to that at all well yeah but he he

Triggered out I don’t want to I thought he would trigger out like 10 minutes he triggered out like 60 minutes I was like he’s triggering now he’s triggering now and everybody in the chat knew he was triggering well he had nothing KN they knew he was he had nothing he had

Nothing he had nothing to support it and that’s the big thing like usually like in these debates I just want to throw my [ __ ] cell phone out the [ __ ] window because I don’t want to listen to it anymore because it’s so frustrating but he triggered you could see him

Triggering he started with his little foot his little foot then he started like shifting in his in his chair I watched him the whole [ __ ] night watched him the whole night I was like how many pettes did he do I saw him do at least three or four pettes up there I

I just knew his little foot was like and he was like and then he [ __ ] full on triggered out vocally in the whole thing I’m like seriously seriously dude like like like what are you doing now there’s nothing you were saying he was just preacher yeah it was almost like

Watching a Hollywood movie it was like now you’re preaching there’s nothing you have no standing on any sort of points you’re making nothing that you’re doing no nothing means anything that you’re saying you’re just preaching to your flock and he said things that like if if there was let’s say there’s no flat

Earthers there it’s just his church when he said the thing about the east and west and north and south they would have all hooted and hollered and he would have been great and he he delivered but he doesn’t realize that that is not an argument it’s completely wrong and he’s

Living inside he’s living inside of his flock yeah he’s got a flock he’s got a a thing a tabernacle that he preaches on and everyone’s like every time he says something that’s so supposedly smarmy everyone’s like it’s really no it’s not that way because you didn’t provide any

Evidence of your position you didn’t do [ __ ] [ __ ] you did nothing to provide for what you’re coming from you’re using emotion to get other people’s emotion to create some sort of Whirlwind of like virtue signaling in a [ __ ] giant virtue signaling [ __ ] tornado that means nothing there’s

Nothing and then the other side is like well we just went out and checked you know we just you know we we could check we have we have a way to check curvature there’s a way to do it and uh you didn’t

Do it and I get it I get it I get that it takes a while it’s not going to be something easy for somebody to get I get that but then don’t act like you’re better than everybody because Dean was exactly right at the end he said look you’re you’re here you’re you’re

Condescending you’re you know making fun of people you’re saying that you know all these things and Dean didn’t have to do that and it’s the same tactic we see if you go watch an ftfe video or mtune all they do is just make fun of flat ARS

The whole time that’s all they have they don’t have anything else and they don’t need anything else because the people that watch them just want to hear that the Earth is a sphere that’s all they care about so yeah it’s the it’s well it’s the adom the adom you know effect

Was like if you don’t understand what adom is you don’t even understand how to get up to these conversations to begin with right yeah it’s like if you don’t if you don’t have if you don’t have any sort of basis to uh say have have a logical conversation with somebody you

Just attack them because that’s what you are you’re just like a lesser like down the troll ladder so to speak so you have you like I can’t I can’t argue that so I’ll just [ __ ] call you a name atom atom adom you know so like but but what

Do you do with like someone that doesn’t understand what adom is you can’t argue back down the ladder all you have to do is go back up the ladder up the ladder and be like look I I can’t I can’t deal with you when you’re calling me names I

Just can’t you know but I what I really do know what to do is I can actually measure things you know and I understand spherical curvature and I understand how the math works and it works like this and if you don’t understand that oh I forgot about the whole parabolic thing

When he was talking about that it’s just so wrong is it’s parabolic missiles over no no no there was never any parabolic missiles over anything that was just propaganda that was fed into your [ __ ] brain well and he obviously watching he obviously watched Professor Dave because he went straight to the

It’s a parabolic and that’s not right and 8 inches per mile Square we’ve shown the 8 Ines per mile squared as far as you’ll ever see anything is correct in fact it airs on the side of the globe meaning that it’s actually uh more sorry less curve than

The globe actually calls for so we’re actually I mean they went through they went through the whole thing I actually went through that one mathematician was like I I gave it I gave it a lot less Creedence I was like it’s good for up to

100 miles yeah I gave it less greed too it’s more than that it’s more than that it’s like actually it goes up to 5 600 miles and it’s actually accurate and I’m I’m like I’m like okay so can like okay so do you want to talk math um yeah you

You have you have to address it because it’s it’s Fibonacci and it curves and the math gets curved as you go but it’s good for 100 miles if not up to 200 300 miles probably further than that yeah I think at a thousand it’s only still less

Than a percent yeah but I think retards [ __ ] short fry after like whatever because they don’t really even understand what math is I me that’s the hard [ __ ] thing is like I had to go back through to my [ __ ] geography class I didn’t even want to do that

Professor Dave Drew this and said this is a parabola and he’s like you can’t can’t do a parabola it’s like yeah well the parabola doesn’t need to just look like that this is also a parabola Professor Dave has a penis that’s like about this size oh you’re giv a little

Too much g a little too much maybe maybe that side but what I’m saying is like the the dude doesn’t understand math and so I’m like you [ __ ] [ __ ] let’s just talk it through I walk you through your [ __ ] math that you are trying to say that you’re convincing a bunch of

[ __ ] jenz retards that is that but it’s not really that it’s just this is really how the math works I walk through the damn math because I didn’t even want to [ __ ] do this I didn’t want to be a [ __ ] flat earther I had to walk

Myself back to that [ __ ] back to that [ __ ] to learn relearn the [ __ ] geography or geometry that I didn’t [ __ ] really want to pay attention to to begin with I actually thought that I was going to start making videos and somebody was gonna come and rescue me by

Saying this is what you’re getting wrong like oh there it is okay thanks I never yeah it was like like I wanted to leave geometry behind me in high school I was just like I just want to go out and make music and [ __ ] all but I had to go back

And learn it again so that I understood it so that I could [ __ ] debunk it and I couldn’t debunk it and like same thing we all went through yeah so like I’m I’m in really ranty mode but I’ll stop what I’m saying is like this is important it’s important and what happened tonight

Is super [ __ ] important and it probably will go down in history that [ __ ] debate because it was in front of Christians yeah like I don’t know I don’t know I I know God’s out there I know he’s out there I know there there’s something bigger that we’re going to I I

Don’t know what it is don’t care right I I really just like to see a couple of pastors [ __ ] beat heads and like Doo I mean I don’t know you might have some he actually [ __ ] great tonight like I said we’re talking about something five years ago and just since then I just

Don’t really watch him pay attention to him and uh he did great tonight no problem saying that I he did great not the Antichrist but if you think about it am I an antichrist well I mean I have no problem with Christ let’s just put it

That way so you can’t call I I don’t either either I don’t either I just like I just at this point in time in my life I’m like I’m okay I’m okay with whatever is next I’m okay with whatever next I think you better be a good person and

You don’t want to fall for deceptions and you don’t want to ever get Meek or you don’t want to get uh complacent you don’t want to feel like oh I’m just going to sit around and watch and wait for Jesus to come back none of that

Stuff would be um looked that in a good way by God in my opinion so you have to try and fight these evil ones and uh do the best we can speak out spread the word and I do think that even if it came down to everybody on Earth was evil

Except for one person I still think God wins so yeah all right L brother take it easy all right much love Che peace all right let’s uh come on back bring it on back bring it on back let’s see I think we’re done with everything that we need

To do tonight don’t we all we said we was going to give away oh who do we got here please let me give you uh this real quick um we’re gonna get a guest right now believe or not let me open this back up though slash

Um there we go let me open this back up give me one second I closed it so it’s just going to take a second to get it back open we’re about to get a Christian perspective on the debate and then we’ll be heading out uh I’ll give you a trivia

At the end of this we’ll give away one VIP pass I’m gonna come up with four questions based on tonight and we’ll see if people have been paying attention oh shoot get let’s see if he joins all right we will wait for him how Longo did he messag me that oh right

Now okay you should be short uh so I’m going to come up with these questions and then you’ll just have to answer them for the V vinner first one who gets all the answers correct okay let me think of these real quick let’s see if we can play something

In the meantime while we wait um what Play Let’s Go with h nope nope nope yep see when Kenneth Copeland like y that lady don’t you ever say that about me telling people in the plane that they’re demons let’s see let’s go this one all right we’re gonna be right back I’m just

G to play a song while we wait for Sean from Kingdom and context he’ll be here shortly and I will be right back but we’re going to play some music if I can get to videos and Sean if you I’ll text you but if you

Hear me just wait till I come back after the song and we will have a listen let’s see here which one do we want to play I’d rather do the one that I sing rather than the one that uh has Eminem singing but I can’t find

It couldn’t have been a year ago what no it’s got to be up here I missed it what does the thumbnail look like uh it was definitely after that I see that okay oh there we go we’ll just do this one for now be right back we’ll be

About three minutes or so and we’ll talk to Sean see you in a second yo it’s me Slim Shady or should I say AI Slim Shady my buddy jiren asked me to rap his lyrics to my beat and I replied do glow Believers PE sitting

Down I’d be happy to J today we’ll be going after the space lie in pseudo science and speaking of pseudo science my buddy me Kaku is here to tell us all about the science he’s been doing Mr Kaka nobody that I know of in my field uses the so-called scientific

Method wow that is the definition of pseudo science lots of that going around lately did you know that gravity isn’t even a force anymore I’ll me you tell you we’ll be right back with the does gravity pull you to the floor no there is no such thing as gravitational pull we lied to

You Till I Collapse I’m exposing these RS and the evil CL sniff so much deception they call me two can scam notes it always knows the first place you should go you can find flatter day where deep inside the RAB hole cmer tingle the knots they’re a bit handy cat

They’re just jealous that we got the flatters clock G like a slap across the face it’s an immediate disgrace you blasing their religion by saying NASA f space your government corruption and they Wicked disguise they Stamp Out All rebellion and reward those that comply they manipulate the facts and they

Spread lies through the media the Liberati the St book and even Wikipedia they line like a lot they’re not going to stop is the earth scar Thors just something they made up you aren’t spinning or flying through space your globers listen up you can’t see 25 trillion miles away get D [ __ ] till

The Dome comes off and the secs out you can Scream and Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the glow Fades out and my perhaps I’mma rip the [ __ ] and watch your balls collapse till the Dome comes off and the seits out you can Scream and

Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the glob Fades out am i h perhaps I’mma rip this [ __ ] and watch the balls collap this story is tragic write it down don’t forget you’ll never go to space kit and there’s no such thing as an orbit no

Rover on Mars no one’s going to the Stars there’s no exoplanets no satellites no matter how much you think there are when it comes to out is face forget as much [ __ ] as you can your former beliefs are over call me the glob Earth get man you call us flurps we

Don’t care cuz we’re winning I got a list list to Winners winning since the beginning it goes du Sergeant power land from Sin City stars are souls godes I bat in the second inning with a big bat hate me I understand your penis eny with these good looks and what looks good the

Hate is never ending but I don’t give the [ __ ] see cuz nothing’s bothering me even though PE brain and op can’t stop crying about me Shadow bisted with every strike that they give me B by PayPal theno Amazon y’all disgusting till the Dome comes off and the SEC out he can

Scream and Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the glow Fades out and my high perhaps I’mma rip this [ __ ] and watch your balls collapse till the Dome comes off and the secrets out you can Scream and Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the Glo Fades out am I high

Perhaps I’mma rip this [ __ ] and watch the balls collapse so since the very start I’ve been doing my part hated by both sides yet I AG like AR it’s absurd poos like just my ever re word I wouldn’t dare expect the Pops I think I ever deserve but the they ain’t curve

Like dark matter never observed they taught us all a lie and make sure somewhere W verse Oh Globe head you think you’re so smart now watch your bubble burst they can’t seem to think they have a faith that’s coerced my thoughts are sporadic your beliefs are

Automatic by Man Dan has tattoos of men on him addict but I don’t want to go forth and back and debate battles it’s clear to me you’re uplo creep Without a Paddle so this is like a full smack I’m throwing at him say refraction or gravity again and I’m slap don’t give me

That old line up white as the Earth even matter it’ll change the world the day the glow Li fin shatter till the Dome comes off and the Sea out you can Scream and Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the GL Fades out am I high perhaps I’mma

Rip this [ __ ] and watch your balls collapse till the Dome comes off and the secs out you can Scream and Shout but I won’t shut my mouth till the globe Fades out am my high perhaps I’mma rip this [ __ ] and watch the balls collapse until the Dome until the the Dome comes off

The comes until my senses don’t deceive me I I will not fall fall for that ball SCE me no I will not fall it’s just like space for your ball make your research don’t in it it’s Crap Join us would you be so kind as to join us on that will be December 8th and 9th next weekend let’s bring on our guest uh oh let’s got the wrong screen on there we’ll get you one second there he is Sean can you hear me oops that’s the

Wrong one yeah I can hear you there we go what’s up my friend how are you good man how are you doing good just got to watch uh Greg lock just nail it down man every bit of globe evidence you could ever want was right there for you uh he

Had nothing man he had absolutely nothing yeah um I guess it if if you have a large audience I think steering course correcting on this particular topic is probably the scariest thing in your life as a pastor I can’t imagine yeah I think that for like a teacher

Professor I don’t even know if a human being is capable of it to be honest with you have you ever seen anybody do a turn like that just Rob ski yeah and Rob you know he had to go in Kicking and Screaming he wouldn’t even say it yeah

He wouldn’t even say it and then uh I remember when he did because he just kept getting closer and closer and then eventually he had to go with the way the evidence goes but most people are not like that most people uh and I don’t know if it’s a brain condition or

Something but you really protect your craft now again people want to say that about us so Jaren you would never admit that yours a globe because you have this CH it’s like yeah but we already switched you’re missing right you already miss you missed yeah we you and

I grew up indoctrinated with the globe like it was it’s it really I sometimes um when I debate people on different Christian topics about the Bible I had to say at the very beginning of the debate hey I’m a normal guy that grew up in public education I grew up in a

Church uh I I learned all the things that you learned I didn’t grow up on some Island somewhere isolated being told about FB and the law of God like I I grew up just like you man I watched Thundercats as a kid I ate Lucky Charms

I I played in te- ball I played football till I was a senior in high school like I’m just a normal dude but I I pressed in and found the truth yeah it’s possible it’s just uh crazy to me that these guy I mean he acted tonight like

Um I don’t know what you would call it’s just they’re so out of their league when it comes to this because he should have thought to himself Dean OD put in eight nine years I don’t know I think he came to Flat Earth in 2015 like most of us

And so you know you’re talking about nine years or so that he’s put into this and then for Greg to say oh I just you know or you know I basically picked it up last week or whatever is he should have he’s out outmatched so you have to

Bring evidence you can’t he didn’t bring one one bit of and I was really thinking I said how is he going to do this I said how do you argue uh you know Globe Earth from a Biblical standpoint I was like this is going to be interesting to see

Well that he showed exactly how you do it he took Nathan Robert’s stuff attacked it which none of us I mean I was sitting here saying hey I don’t disagree with him a lot of those are not flat Earth Bible verses so right yeah yeah I mean again Nathan was writing a

Book you know how that goes but it’s still that is a straw man when you basically are building somebody’s belief if you want to debate Nathan Roberts in your private time go do that but not on a public stage when like none of us believe that it’s not like he’s the head

Of Flat Earth I think he even said Nathan Roberts was the head head of doal or something what he say yes yeah the STW man was massive with and and Nathan Robert out of all people why not Nathan Thompson right what is Robert even doing

Is he even in in Flat Earth at all no he’s gone he got all pissed at everybody and yeah that yeah so I think that uh for me it took it I wouldn’t have waited as long as as Pastor R waited he waited like almost to go up there and say

Something 45 to 50 minutes to say hey you’re straw man and yeah you’re debating somebody else like debate my arguments um but I’m sure there was a lot of pressure with everyone there being live and everything and he was promised um Pastor Odell said that he was promised that they would have some

Sort of format and that he would be able to give a response like a rebuttal right but when he like you like you’re talking about he realized that Pastor lock wasn’t actually given any kind of real rebuttal he was just like preaching and just like hyp up the crowd and then it’s

Like cheap pops they call them in wrestling if you you know if you’re a wrestler and you go out there and you just say like we love you Austin and then the crowd goes crazy it’s a cheap hop because anybody can do that you can just go out you say the hometown’s name

And the crowd goes crazy he was kind of like doing that like just every chance he got say something really hyped up about and we know here at this church we do and then everybody goes crazy and like I was saying last time I said when he mentioned that East and West don’t

Work on a flat earth when what he was describing is exactly what happens on the Flat Earth that you can never reach EAS or west because they’re always in circles and he was doing that little walk around and he like yeah that’s how it works [ __ ] that is what what does

He think circumnavigate means he’s like circumnavigation is in a circle oh that’s weird they put the word he gave himself away within like 20 minutes of his of his actual speech and presentation when he said I haven’t even researched this until I agreed to the debate I know but that’s not even true

Because he’s obviously been looking into it at least for the still like it’s so disingenuous as it’s so irresponsible as a pastor true you would like I tell people my all the time the stuff I talk about I’ve researched for years right would you ever get in front of a huge

Audience like that in front of a crowd and then be like oh I haven’t researched this at all like what okay no no I don’t talk about stuff I don’t research for years so for him to say I haven’t even researched this until I agreed to this

Debate and then to flippantly throw a $30,000 wager right which is not at all a righteous thing to do according to scripture like just it’s a waste of money and it’s his parishioner’s money like he’s not even he didn’t even say it was his own money yeah know and then I

Looked up his net worth it must be wrong cuz I saw one site said 129 million I don’t know how he would have that much money but if he did I figured out what $30,000 would be of that and it would be the equivalent of a person with $100,000

Spending $111 so yeah it’s not if he’s having to go get Tex and people Farmers to pay for his little balloon flight and what’s that going to do he doesn’t realize that we can send balloons up ourselves 120,000 feet and then we do that or yeah or just that we’ve already

Have done that because he would he’d research for 5 seconds and found that out right it cost like bucks to do and he wants to send a person up there in 50,000 or 100 what he say 50,000 bucks it’s like for 49,000 we can still find

Out the same thing so well it’s it’s hyperboy right so every like they sending a person up in a capsule as opposed to just sending a camera up on a bloom by yourself that’s it’s sexier to send a person up in a capsule and to threaten somebody with prove to me the

Earth this flight I’ll send you up in a capsule I’ll pay I I Neo I’m cool because I negotiated down to 50,000 from 75,000 I called the guys I called the guys from that balloon place I called them oh wow you you have a phone didn’t

Know you had a phone granding yeah yeah it was an embarrassment honestly um so I’ve been a Christian most my life all my life but um it’s an embarrassment man that that this that this guy has a huge following on Facebook you may know but he’s got like over on Facebook yeah and

He’s coming up there not prepared just doing nothing you think that’s a good thing ultimately I guess from your perspective because I don’t look at it from a Christian perspective so I look at it as a good thing I don’t see anything wrong with this at all because

I see it all positive and I’m kind of thinking now just for the first time I’m like oh maybe you think because he represented Christianity that it looks bad on Christians so a position I didn’t even think of to write know it’s just from from someone that dedicates my life

To accurately trying to represent the scriptures in context and and be responsible with it and to see someone so brazenly irresponsible with it it just Digs at me personally but right I agree with you this the congr in his church and anyone watching that’s a Christian that’s on the fence about this

Topic this was incredible for them to see the bad fruit that comes from this do it’s just like trinitarians the globies It produces nothing but Wicked fruit because it’s not a Doctrine based on the scriptures so what the scriptures teach is that if you have sound Doctrine

It’s going to produce you know love if you have the right sound Doctrine it produces love it doesn’t produce wickedness and manipulation all we saw tonight was atom manipulation strawmanning mockery it was just yeah one part I really like it is good for the for the fence sitters to see what

Happens T you’re right when he said that um I’m trying to remember the one thing he said now I can’t find the form CU I had it written down he said what was the word that he was talking about when there was a word that OD said and then

He went and he showed what and then he was wrong and I said even when he said I was like oh oh yeah believes in multiple worlds so he was talking about the right and I said I bet you that’s not what the word says in Hebrew which you have to

Give Austin credit for that Austin completely flip me now now I can’t read anything on the English Bible without going immediately to the Hebrew or the Greek because it’s just I feel like the English version is crap so I just like get rid of that and but soon as he fully

Translated English words yeah yeah soon as he said worlds and and I was like no I bet you that word is not what he thinks it is and then sure enough Dean comes up and says no you know what that means it means eons Ages which again

Then it makes sense so yeah for for a pastor to you know get that kind of stuff wrong um what I was saying about the East and West being circles let’s say that there’s no flat earthers there and it’s just his congregation and he makes that same statement oh east and

West and it doesn’t work on a flat they would all go crazy and they would you know he would feel so Vindicated because he so that’s the problem with these guys is that they’re used to being such patted on the back I think every day

That he just feels like he can just get up there and say anything and the whole audience is going to fall over themselves well you’re you’re also watching a one of the most flamboyant um like internet pastors that have become more popular because there’s an internet presence okay because like this

This is not a normal Pastor brother I don’t you know I know that well I know you know my brother like Protestant churches but Protestant like Methodist Baptist Lutheran Presbyterian like even a lot of Assembly of God and other style Protestant Evangelical churches they’re not like this guy this guy is like level

1,000 everyone else is like a level five like this dude is already way over the top in everything he does anyway right and so this was probably the perfect setup for this type of discussion yeah it was good I think a lot of people were

Going to get uh see what I mean there’s no way you can watch us as a Christian and be like Oh The Globe Earth was just nailed to you know I mean you would have to be like what just happened like what that was the proving of the Earth as a

Globe from the biblical standpoint there wasn’t one bit of evidence not one so I was really thinking maybe he has something he didn’t have anything so it’s like okie dokie yeah what about were doing review on our Channel and what I said like early on was this guy’s

Got nothing but like month-old arguments like the dude that just heard about Fe yesterday and all those initial knee-jerk arguments right he he had done no research he literally watched Professor Dave’s Video because he pulled the whole parabolic thing which you if anybody says that you immediately know

Where they got that from and it’s immediately wrong it’s you know Dave didn’t understand that a parabola can be different shapes it doesn’t have to be just the little uh n looking thing or like the you know Star Trek sign looking thing um I was going to ask you

Something else oh you you said he’s a little bit flamboyant I said he was a little Kum see Kum saww he seemed a little light in the loafers for me I don’t know just uh observation he did too many P I don’t know I just know that

Um too many you know there’s there are pastors that are like this man I mean they the people that support this pastor that go to this church regularly you know I want to say this um as as uh sincerely as possible I’m not saying this I’m not trying to say this to be

Crude or I’m not trying to say this to just to to you know to sound edgy or nothing but people that fall for pastors like that they don’t have a grounding in the scriptures and they’re highly impressionable and so they will cheer whatever he

Says yeah um and as long as you know I think yeah you want to tell people what they want to hear and then they people tend to respond to that I mean I’ve noticed that with YouTube something I didn’t expect uh and I think it’s more yeah I think more

People are followers in this world than I ever thought before people who just follow and and I get why because I used to be one and it was because I had a full-time job and I had kid and I’ve got a life and so I really didn’t have time

For anything else so you really have no choice sometimes but to follow somebody who you like the way they talk or you like how they act and and then you just kind of almost adopt their beliefs and then you can that person can get away with anything really it’s kind of get

Scary so because then that person can really start to take advantage and you know I’m afraid most people will do that but because if you don’t if you go against everything that you people want to hear if you do things like I do like tell people don’t you know don’t listen

To me do your own research well I’m basically giving homework assignments who the hell wants that people are like no tell me the truth I’m watching your shows you don’t not say you go tell me to research so I think that um I just wish that somebody would show themselves

To be uh like this like imagine if we get six months from now and the guy I mean now like he can never see it because the way he acted right I mean do I can’t picture it I would love to see one it would take like an actual Act of

God in my opinion yeah Jesus would need to come down and we all see him and then him go oh I get it now so high that we can still see him up there yeah it’s funny someone in the live chats mentioned Stephen Anderson like this guy

Greg lock he he’s like trying to give sters you remember you remember Celebrity Deathmatch on MTV if we could get Stephen Anderson and Pastor Greg lock playmation celebrity deathmatch would you say that there’s I mean if you were to I guess I don’t know if you’d

Know this but like what is he top 10 Pastors in the United States I don’t know or would that be a stretch I don’t know how you would even probably a stretch because you’ve got some OG people in the in the word of faith Movement Like You Know NE Jesse duplis

Uh Benny hen you know Joyce Meyer like Klo dollar those people they got huge audiences and they’re they’re worth billions of about what about like Greg Lori uh Greg Lor is pretty OG but he’s in a he’s in a much softer he’s not like a I don’t think he’s Word of Faith or

Like name at climate Prosperity gospels type guys so he doesn’t get as much and he doesn’t um have as big of an Internet presence as some of these other people okay because my my brother-in-law is involved in all that and okay it’s pretty I and as far as Greg Lori uh his

His particular flavor of Christianity and like what doctrines he promotes the most um I don’t know that much about him I just know that he’s not a word of faith Prosperity teacher like some of these other guys no he’s not like a Joel oin or yeah uh no but they’re just very

You know it’s the Christian rock music and um I don’t for really have a problem with that I guess growing up as a Catholic and going to church my whole life definitely is a shocker to walk into a church and see like when I walked into my brother-in-law’s Church there’s

Like a bar at the front where they’re like serving coffee and who wants Red Bulls for five bucks and you’re you know then you get inside the church and there’s like commercials playing like worship on it said actually this it said worship on Red Bull $5 at the swear to

God I’m like looking next to like a lady with a dog literally literally the symbolism of Bale is P that they’re drinking in in those service was funny but yeah and I oh man just yeah man there’s a lot of deceived people out there because again they don’t have a

Grounding in the actual scriptures that they claim to have faith in we talk about this all the time our Channel people people call us a cult and I’m the one that’s telling them to read their Bible and look up the definitions of the words and come to their own conclusions

And they still call meical but you get people like this this Greg lock guy who just is shouting at the audience we’re done with this nonsense get the band up here get the flag waivers we’re going to do something spiritual tonight and praise the Lord and you’re like bro you

Just acted in the worst fruit possible and it’s got filmed you got caught in 4k yeah they pull it and now you’re just gonna try to turn it with the with a wave of the hand and say let’s get spiritual and bring the band up here

Like what is this did you hear they pulled it down already they pulled down that life term I guess yeah they did but I got it I’m gonna clip it and I’m GNA keep it and it’s GNA be mine’s mine’s kind of on but I also had a list of his

Scorecard up there that I was keeping track of all the things he was saying I thought it was going to be lies that he was telling about the globe and then it turned into me writing things you know basically says believes in science only when talking about the globe huh because

He’s like you know basically I don’t believe in evolution I don’t believe all these things but it’s like okay but those things are on Earth you can actually go test and play with them so the place that’s outside the Earth that we can ever go to they’re telling the

Truth about that that makes a lot of sense Greg about Evolution that you can actually go do experiments and actually check things and no that they’re lying about but about the space worlds 25 trillion miles away they’re definitely telling the truth about that man there’s it’s like layers like like an onion you

Know I think um a lot of truthers probably talk about this you know is like peeling away the levels of deception right and when it comes to Christianity the levels of deception do not stop just obviously biblical cosmology it goes much deeper get you know the Trinity is a huge layer on that

Onion because that gets connected something that this pastor grey L brought up tonight and he was talking about how uh Jesus Is God that’s a trinitarian statement right and if you don’t believe that he made an inference a threatening inference that then therefore what did he say I can’t I’d

Have to go back and find the right after he said something it was like yeah they all do the same type of threatening uh spiritual manipulation then you’re a baby or something you’re a baby who needs your diaper change or something right yeah if you don’t believe that

Jesus is God then you know basically alluding to like you don’t understand the Bible and because they basically will come out and say you’re not a Christian if you don’t believe in the Trinity we do Trinity debates on our Channel all the time dismantling the Trinity and how it’s agnostic idea that

Was brought about by philosophers in the early Eastern Orthodox church so they hate that they they hate that when I bring that up the actual history of where this idea came from and it’s not scriptural at all but yet the Eastern orthodics and the Catholic churches

Promoted it as a staple of the faith if you don’t believe it you’re out of the church this guy has the same attitude that’s why he was so flippant to kick out Dean odle tonight because he was like oh you’re a Bible din there get out

You know and this that kind of attitude is not what Christians need when he knows that that’s not the case no de up there actually he’s actually trying to apply the Bible truthfully and this guy you’re a Bible denier what by giving you the truth about what Worlds the actual

Hebrew word was for that um I have to ask you if you’ve ever heard of this I mentioned it earlier I might be wrong is there not a story that the way that they came up with what books go in the Bible was they put them all on a Podium and

Checked which one fell off have you never heard that story no I gotta find this manoun different councils yeah yeah but they said at one of the councils that they put the books and they said God will choose and then the then books fell off the thing and they said okay these

Are no dis I got to find this story that’s the real story I’ve heard it I’ve seen I’ve read it somewhere God darn it I’ve never heard it but all I know is that different Christian communities around you know the last 2,000 years they didn’t agree on which books went in

So they all had different collections of books and so it’s just in the modern America we have the Protestant Canon which was left over from the Catholic Canon right so the average American doesn’t realize that there were other collections of scriptures that like the you know the Syriac collection The

Armenian collection the Ethiopian collection they just don’t understand their history a because no one goes to church when they get saved and they and they put their faith in Christ most churches do not have a class that says this is how we got our Bible true never

Seen that and then was it I I was confused when he said Enoch didn’t write Enoch so therefore we’re not supposed to believe Enoch what books of the Bible were written by the people’s names that are said to have written them nobody right I mean not very many not very

Techn a lot of them but for example like um after the Babylonian uh Exile and return of the of the Israelites mostly specific tribes from Judah Israel Simeon came back from Babylon in the sixth Century BC the prophet and priest Ezra he rescribed all of the books him and

The other scribes he had like 40 something dudes with him and they all rescribed all the Scrolls of scripture that they had at the time and Scholars today will try to claim that the book of First Enoch its first manuscript appearance in history showed up in the

3r century BC and so that’s why they claim but that just because you find a manuscript and you date it back to the thirr Century doesn’t mean that’s when it’s written because they were constantly copying them for future Generations but that’s the argument they’re in but then you’ve got people

Like Christ Peter Paul and Jude in the New Testament quoting from ideas only found in first Enoch so you got a theological issue here right and and people he obviously hasn’t done his research on first Enoch either yeah no I noticed that uh and I just it’s it’s

Baffling to me that they that he holds so strongly on to the globe when I mean it’s he usually it takes somebody just thinking about it and then if you’re if you’re a Christian I don’t get it then then I really struggle because the you

Have to look at the Bible and go oh yeah and the things that were brought up like um him saying what was the one that Dean Odo said about uh Jesus that I didn’t even think about ah there was one early on De was talking about there’s some

Line that Jesus said that I was like I never even thought about that but that’s true that that you know the globe doesn’t work there what did Jesus say um I I don’t y you mean Matthew 4 right where we talked about Satan taking Jesus

Up to a high mountain no it was some one that Dean brought up um one of his proofs was a Bible verse that and Jesus said something I don’t remember what what it was but anyway it was just uh there’s still verses that I hear where

I’m like oh man and then the clay seal thing one I mean we even went back and looked at it I’m like that it’s not at all talking about the sunset I mean he’s talking about so I mean again this is one of the issues I have is that I feel

Like when you have words on paper and I’ve seen iten where people can take them and make them whatever they want um and then if you just have somebody who’s going to say okay because I agree that we can go back and then we get the Hebrew word and then from there you

Really but he wouldn’t even let us go back there he still was like oh No worlds oh it means planets and this that okay then Dean took it back to the to the Hebrew and then he wouldn’t even like listen to him he’s like no you’re

Wrong you’re making that up what do you mean he’s like no that’s the I looked up so so speaking of Sunrise that’s a specific point that um I wish they could have got into but there was no chance basically in Psalm 196 it talks about the sun U running forth like a

Bridegroom from the chamber and and it’s going on its circuit and Pastor Den did try to bring up the idea that a circuit was not would not be synonymous with the heliocentric model that’s why the Bible describes it above a flat circle of earth going in a circuit in the

Firmament above where it was placed but the word is Loosely translated as rising the sun rises to its and Goes Forth in its circuit but that word in English is a poor Lo translation the word rise it’s actually the word matah in um not matah

Like the bread but Mato and it means to go forth right okay so it doesn’t mean to rise up and down even Rising is like like Dean did a great job of explaining a plane coming at you from The Horizon because we would all describe that as

The plane is rising it certainly looks that the perspective of yeah the perspective rise yeah and then did you hear when Pastor Lo said he said um you did not you said uh Dean you did not bring up any verses that mention the Flat Earth you just talked about the

Firmament I was like this dude hasn’t researched anything about this topic oh and then I said one of the straw man he told her I was like you’re limiting God he’s like oh well because there’s a dome now you God can’t bless his grace down here I’m like dude you just limited you

Just made it so God can’t even get through the firmament we never said that yeah the firmament so we can’t get out not so God can’t bring his grace down here Loser yeah at one point uh Pastor lock he he made a comment in his presentation before Dean got up there as

A rebuttal and he uh Pastor lock said said um oh see all this language about God walking and riding on the clouds that’s just metaphor that doesn’t happen but yet Jesus says in Matthew 24:29 that he’s going to come back on the Clouds Of Heaven as he comes back to bring peace

On the earth and Route the wicked and you’re like so is that a metaphor is Jesus not coming back through the clouds right from the sky above like just there’s no consistency in his AR well his consistency is if whatever the if it whatever it has to take for it to be

Globe related then that’s what it is so if it’s a metaphor then it it’s literal it’s so whatever he’s got well there is no literal so he couldn’t go there so it’s just all down to metaphor and hyperbole which is a joke which shouldn’t I don’t think that’s in the

Bible I haven’t heard much hyper in that Bible because he doesn’t he didn’t even listen to Pastor OD explain what the firmament was the pastor OD defined it which I was super happy about yeah but yet that’s what’s what Pastor lock ignored repeatedly was the actual definition of the fir he won’t Define

The word Heaven which is the word for the firmament because it it it assumes an enclosed cosmology so that’s why you had to stay away from it at all costs yep I was trying to see if I could find this man I know I’ve heard the story

Before but I’m not seeing it anywhere as it say here noing so jiren you’ll actually appreciate this we tomorrow I’m doing a show it’s called honor of Kings okay and it’s you know you asked me about the uh the different collection of cannons and the councils and everything

Yes how how they chose which books go in the Bible so they the PE the different Christian communities and in in ages past that that had those coun councils and they decided which books go in none of those people had author from God to do that that was just their own man-made

Ideas right right so so we’ve actually decided you know what me and my my buddy Ken hre we do the show called honor of kings and we just started season four this year and we’re inviting other Christian YouTubers who are confident in the Bible to join us and we’re calling

It the Council of nice to see you instead of the council nice to nice wait a second so wait because the other day I watched a show that you were on and there was some jerk he was the worst guy I’ve ever seen in my life he was like

Challenging you on everything just like making [ __ ] up who who’s that guy would was it a debate or was it no it was like there was like six people on the screen or maybe five and he was just like thought he was so cool man just like oh

Was it the Assyrian guy Sam Shimon yes yes it was that guy who is that guy he dude is a a hardcore trinitarian on YouTube that rates people and that’s he thinks that’s debating yeah it’s just Terri the one where I was eating food and just ignoring him yeah and he was

Like I’m gonna I’m going to shame you just wait I’m gonna get you you know just acting like he was like going to fight you or something just so dir I was like does this I was supposed to go on that broadcast to do a Q&A with the

Audience but the people that invited me on it was just a setup so that they could get me in the room with that Sam Shimon oh that guy’s I mean what a joke and yeah you think he’s not even making any sense and he just changes everything

He’s saying and oh yeah what about just he was terrible I can’t even try and act like him so yeah man tomorrow we’re actually doing honor Kings episode two of season 4 and it we’re literally mocking the ancient not mocking in a in a joking way we’re like a mocked Mo you

See is you spell it like a mockup of the councils of old right um so that we can have our own modern Council and look at some of these books that weren’t put in to some of the Cannons and kind of review them and see why you know like so

What kind of what books are you talking about name a couple uh tomorrow we’re looking at the epistle Barnabas okay some Christian communities had in their in their Canon and some didn’t um we’ve already looked at books like Enoch we’ve looked at books like um you know the

Prayer of Azariah we’ve looked at I like the one where Jesus is a child have you seen that one is that Thomas uh we haven’t done that one yet okay that’s a good one I like that book um so yeah you might like it because we go through a systematic process of

Evaluation um as if we were there 1,800 years ago with these dudes because it’s all arbitrary anyway and that’s what we’re trying to teach modern Christians is to say look this this self-imposing authority of the church that just comes along and says we’re your priests now we

Get to choose what is scripture and what’s not you should listen to us but the problem is the average person needs to know the books that that are being held up as scripture are they consistent with the message that they all say so whether you believe in God or the Bible

Or not that’s kind of a different conversation but if you’re in the faith you you at some point you run into this weirdness especially with the internet you can look at information worldwide you run into this weird um hypocrisy not hypoc contradiction to where you’re like

Why do the Ethiopians have like 80 books but the Americans have 66 and they both claim they’re Christians what’s going on here right what do those other books say like the Ethiopians in their Canon they have jubilees and Enoch which clears up a whole of questions that Americans

Always have because they only have 66 they don’t have as much information so we’re doing a mockup council it’s called honor of Kings you might like it what about isn’t there a book of Mary I haven’t heard of that one yet okay I didn’t know I remember looking

Into a bunch of the I have that 2700 book PDF 2700 PDF books on my uh telegram Channel and it’s uh there’s a whole bunch of stuff in there about what do they call like cudographic uh yeah Su of pigero that just means like who they don’t know who wrote it and so

They falsely attribute it to somebody just to give it some sort of authorship right um I will find that story for you though because I do want you to read it and see what you think I it was basically like if I remember the story right they were at one of the

Councils and they were had a bunch of books and they needed to get they wanted to get rid of some of them and then they put them on a pillar and like shook it and whatever books fell off they said okay those ones are out and then the

Ones that stayed on are in I’ve heard this I don’t know maybe I was dream maybe I have weird dreams like that it’s possible it’s possible all right well thanks for coming on I appreciate it uh what is that on your channel tomorrow let’s say that again is that on your

Channel tomorrow yeah it’ll be on it’ll be on kingd context tomorrow it’s like I think we’re doing a 4 pm Mountain Standard so that’ll be 3 pm your time three okay sounds good we’ve got uh glow Busters I think in the morning wait tomorrow yeah getting confused on what

Day it is um all right and then there’s congratulations on your summits I hear those are going well they are going well appreciate you having me on last time uh for that Summit it was a did you ever find out what happened when you were on

What do you mean mean you heard what happened while you were giving your presentation that no I didn’t hear it oh god what happened oh my God I got I’ll tell you after I’ll tell you offline I’ll I’ll I’ll text you when I get off here in a second I can’t believe no

One’s told you they probably didn’t want to tell you and I probably shouldn’t either but now I’ve said that I have to tell you but uh let’s just say we had to scramble real quick during your presentation I’ll tell I’ll text you few minutes thanks brother all right have a good night

Peace all right that was Sean Kingdom and context check him out if you like tomorrow and how are you guys doing hopefully well oops that’s not show on screen all right let’s see here I’ve got I had questions and now I don’t okay let’s see who’s here in the

Chat is anybody left well I want to do the super chats real quick let’s go through those thank you guys very much for all of them uh let’s see where we left off last time T big okay where we at seven of clubs we got that all right here we go so we’re

At uh Matthew deorio says director munchin to set 17 for epilog please okay I’m not sure I follow uh let’s go on the next one we got Doug in the house Doug what’s up he said P patter loock what a Croc you mean Pastor but yes uh Insurgent honors says Jaren would

Have made a better content if moderator hey that’s you know good point uh Matt again thank you very much says help family as they wake up family does need help everybody needs help and again I really just say don’t go too hard at people because you’re going to get

People dig their feet in and then they can’t see it right I’ve just heard too many people come to me and say oh you know I used I mean I don’t talk to my brother anymore and I’m like can you already hear what happened is it you

Called him a [ __ ] he called you a [ __ ] and now you both have dug your feet in and nobody’s going to even look at the other side in fact the other brother is probably out finding as much Professor not a professor videos as he can just to

Come back and say something to make the other guy feel dumb uh we’ve got November says thank you for everything you do brother I wish I had more to give that is great 10 bucks is uh huge uh it’ll be a sad day if and when you have

To get a JW that will be a sad day but it’s it’s all right well you got to do what you got to do in the world and I’ll still stream as often as I can we’ve got uh Earth first space later says was the other guy’s initial argument really

Based on Netflix yes it was and oh I guess I could I can’t oh I can it was based on that and it’s it’s sad I got to do a video I’ve been trying to always think about what’s the best way what’s the length of the video how do I

Get a my point across but not sound too because I mean people have heard me explain it but it takes me two hours to go through everything and show the emails and explain why they did what they did I really want to get it to something under 10 minutes that

Everybody can share with anybody that does that and then I also want to point out that really what it does is exposes the globers it exposes exactly what we’ve been saying about them for instance when we do an experiment let’s say we see they want to know immediately

They want to know the temperature gradient where’s your numbers what was the bar barometric pressure did you take temperature readings at once every mile across the water they want all this information that’s impossible you it’s like what we don’t have that uh but when I say interesting that’s that’s it they

Don’t need any information they don’t need any temperature gradient they don’t need any kind of refraction they don’t need anything they just need me saying interesting and therefore they get so really this is what we should recognize globers will accept literally anything it doesn’t even have to be an experiment

You couldn’t ask a glober next time a glober asks you or tells you something about interesting say to them okay explain to me the experiment if they start talking about lasers they way off there’s a wrong experiment they that’s what the movie did the movie confused

You if they turn if they talk about the light then ask them okay well what’s what were the two numbers that it needed to be and they’re going to say oh 17t and 23 feet okay and then they didn’t see it at 23 then they didn’t see it at

17 and then he raises it above his head and they see it and you guys think that that’s proof of 23 How could a light going 2 and2 ft above your head equal actually 6t above your head and this is what the movie did the movie lied by not showing you the

Original looks because otherwise you would see that my interesting was because it was in the middle H interesting didn’t see it at the 23 didn’t see the 17 we saw in the middle this is why everybody left and was like n didn’t figure out anything this time

But um this one I’m move it move this hold on I got to get the chat within the screen where is it YouTube single chat there we go let’s move it down there thank you and move it over there thank you all right let’s continue on these

Chats here who do we have next we’ve got uh taking back Eden what’s up says thank you jiren you are welcome thank you for the two bucks Canadian uh the page he reads from his flat manag page balls we’ve got Stephanie McGuire says for suffering through this thank you for showing me

NASA in 2016 Stephanie you’re welcome thank you for being a viewer for that long that’s a long time uh we’ve got wow this a lot we’ve got uh where are we at here is there that many might have had a good Super Chat night I don’t know where I was that’s

Way up here okay we’ve got uh Earth for space later says wait where is Globe proof just waiting well you’re probably still waiting please don’t hold your breath if you do you will not make it uh we’ve got thank you we’ve got uh here please do a poll percent Flat Earth

Globe all day or now don’t know sorry I didn’t see that I could have done another poll it seems like people like those so we’ll do those more in the future it’s kind of nice when you can say do you want me to do this or this

And people can sh I liked it we’ve got strong concordance it exists for a reason thank you very much kjx uh no just if it’s you know we don’t need that we just uh whatever fits the globe that’s what God meant God believes in the globe and therefore everything has

To be globe Earth first space later again five bucks says future headline Pastor lock tips Tipping Point for people to understand yeah uh my I was going to say Pastor lock realizes Flat Earth and you know hangs himself I’m just saying could get that part we’ve

Got uh run Boston bear says so does any of this make earth a ball or send us into orbit around the sun all of it did all of it did the Bible is clearly a globe Earth book it says things like um well ball and circle it’s just weird

Cuz actually the definition of ball is circle so that’s why you guys don’t get it it’s which means it’s a c guess I’m confused uh kjax again two bucks thank you very much very kind of you we’ve got let’s celebrate their third Super on a live stream all right three times for

Kjx thank you Brett hail says lock has no substance and is great for the truth the Flat Earth truth he did a very good job of bringing people to the flat truth tonight I really believe that there’s no way if you took a accounting if we had a

Bitcoin register if we had the uh the blockchain here and we could record people’s we would have all people moving from the globe to flat and not one moving from Flat to the globe besides me I’m definitely going back to the globe Greg did a great job convince me really

Well Iron Work 92,000 thank you very much two bucks appreciate it taking back Eden again jiren jiren jiren jiren gravitas yes wait exactly we’ve got kjx again 10 bucks says strong concordance anytime a preacher starts going after oops sorry uh I lost it there we go anytime a

Preacher starts going after some key phrase or passage check it lock is full of [ __ ] I know I should get one just for that he was off we’ve got uh Na bidness two bucks says free balloon ride and Antarctica trip though it’s true just uh we can send balloons up call Dwayne Kell

He’ll put one up for a thousand bucks so 50,000 seems like a bit of a stretch might be too expensive we’ve got uh oh that was Na’s first Super Chat on life live stream thank you King David says As a Christian myself I apologize for any non-christians having to listen to Greg

Lock I don’t think you guys really we don’t really listen do it that way it wasn’t like Greg lock may look bad for Christians he just looked bad as a human being so uh maybe I’ll bring up this because it’s easier for me to read I

Can’t read that uh he is a false teacher and a charlatan he does not represent Christ or Christianity well he certainly thinks he does uh Flat Earth is so obvious sorry there’s more to that there we go flat Earth is so obvious and clearly okay we still don’t see

It stupidly I don’t know what that says I can’t get down there all right let’s ra it over here it’s not going to tell me uh Flat Earth is so obvious and clearly observed I agree we’ve got crush Bandicoot I believe there used to be a video game in your cousin’s name Greg

Should change his name to Pastor uh something uh bunt is Lunt IUN Pastor iant from Crush bundicot thank you very much thanks Sharon we’ve got taken back Eden again says is he scared of losing his life 20 129 million Mason reasons uh I don’t know if that’s true

Now because I saw another site that said five to 10 million or something so that’s quite a big stretch there quite a big stretch we’ve got uh Advantage Prince two bucks says forget that tweaker truth is written on our heart who’s the tweaker Greg lock I wouldn’t

Call him that I just think he’s a I don’t know little light in the loafers my friends I saw him do at least three or four pirouettes on the stage which just saying probably not going to see me do a pirouette during one of my presentations just telling you all right we’ve got

Uh uh oh sorry I gotta go up one Kryptonian says bring Dave on quit all right Kryptonian make sure you go to flat dave.com and book us for a combo uh King David is back says I’m a Christian Greg lock is a nasty sick person I apologize to all he did nothing

Except Phil Buster thank you Dave Dean Weiss jiren and wit it love you guys you’ve been instrumental thank you so much appreciate that very kind words we’ve got dir would love to join your live stream jiren sorry about that I wasn’t looking at the chat or my phone but we got them

On uh bring daveon that would be a great conversation he’s been here that is my single most asked thing is to do a show again with Dave they really miss the baby truther show most heard thing that I get uh see where we at here we bring Dave on that

Would be great conversation okay we’ve got can we get Dave on so now I realize the secret to getting tips is to have Dave S Dave next time sit in the chat and just keep saying I want to get on the show I’ll pretend like I don’t see anybody

And then people just keep sending te again get Dave on Austin and Dave are here let them in I mean this is the this is the ticket to riches now jiren Davis trying to get on probably made a 100 bucks jiren Davis trying to get in let

Him in oh man I should have gone longer dude David Austin on this is great 30 bucks this is the secret I just found the secret The Secret To Riches this here bring on Dave and Austin oh this is great Dave trying to get on Charlie two bucks thank you very

Much was that the end of it okay I should have kept going man and then soon as Dave gets on look what happen end of super chats Dave gets here they all stop I have the secret Now Dave we’re gonna do a little plan where you’re going to

Sit in the chat all day and just say like man I really want to talk to jiren it’d be great if I get on there and then people just be like Jaren he’s trying to get on the show and then uh when you get on then then

[ __ ] goes south let’s just say that thank you very much guys you have been awesome I don’t even know what that amount would be but it’s a lot let’s put it that way it is a lot and very appreciative what is this one what am I confused this just happen or wait hold

On that was weird why did that one show yeah you just tip that right now run Boston bear adding to that total uh he’s already been on now that you were on the show as well in case you know anybody else want to think Dave wants to get on

I know all right let’s go check uh Rockin and then we’re going to oh let me get my questions ready actually I’ll place them after I check the tips on rockin then we’re going to get the giveaway of a VIP pass and that’ll be it we’ll see you tomorrow for glow Busters

But let me um first go to Rockin and see what we got oh nice day huge thank you guys very kindly let’s go to the tips over there all right we’ve got uh and nobody said a word all right we’ve got Adrien mark thank you very much 20 bucks

We got I Leland wh Wilt thank you very much five bucks we got Randy Bishop five bucks Achilles in the house if you guys didn’t see last week’s uh glow Busters we had a 14inch don’t get excited doesn’t exist 14inch telescope 14-in t telescope uh and we had that playing

Live we got to see Jupiter and we got you know just the gas giant where gas does the opposite of what it does it’s amazing it’s cool world science is cool uh John Key thank you very much five bucks we’ve got sky the limit five bucks says thanks Tiffany Vinci 50 bucks thank

You very much says thank you Jaren Tiffany that is way too kind uh I don’t even know what to say 50 bucks is amazing Douglas wasin five bucks thank you very much Douglas very kind of you Jason BS always a great contributor to the show five bucks and Robert toy 20

Bucks thank you guys a ton 67 people still there how’s dive doing dive I want to spend more time with you is there any nope same how many people are watching here five dve struggling dve struggling let’s see if we made it on the front

Page of dive let’s go uh oh I think because I xtagged tonight’s show I don’t think I make it on the front page do I I would be on the front page though seven six viewers would I make it and I’m not there though I EX I ex myself

Out um man they’ve got a lot of shows with oh I am on the top front page sweet we should be way higher what is the top viewer we should be number one on this dve all the time the top view right now is getting well 516 that’s going to be

Tough to beat uh how much is this one so the second place is 113 you guys we should all everybody at YouTube should go to di live real quick just so I can get to be the number one spot I don’t know how many people are on YouTube right now who

1083 we only need 100 people to go to dive and we’ be number one just saying just saying all right let’s go to um get the test questions ready and we’re going to listen to one more song while I write them and then we’ll give away a VIP and

Then we’ll be going out to the garage and getting loaded all right I didn’t say that um what song now am I running out of songs kind of running out of songs let’s get this off the screen oh no this always happens to me I threw I closed the uh that thing

Going to be stuck oh no I can turn it off on OBS if I turn off my little comment thing then it’s stuck on the screen but I can turn it off like that there we go we got rid of it all right let’s see here and I’m just gonna do something

Quick I thought there was some other song I want to play but I don’t remember what it was don’t know all right we’ll go here and videos so we did that one we did that one I should go old school let’s go old school let’s go to Odyssey by the way

Did you know Odyssey is closing they sold um luckily thank you very much uh Caprice really helped me out Caprice I said Capri could you go through all my videos on Odyssey and then double check to see if they’re on YouTube and she went through and downloaded for me every

Video that’s on Odyssey uh that I didn’t have on YouTube because I’m afraid you’re going to lose all this they got sold or something they a bunch of money and then they sold to somebody else but there’s a chance they just come in and just wipe the Slate clean out all the

Servers and we’ll lose lose it all but uh that’s happening soon I believe I think that they have to turn it over this week or something uh let’s see here and journalism content so it’s good I have all these because there’s if you guys remember when I had to pull down

All my videos because of good old Bart cell who doesn’t understand what fair use means um you can’t use my videos to to say something else with them that the Earth is flat like that’s exactly what Fair uses [ __ ] I can’t use your videos to

Say they didn’t go to the moon and just say exactly what you said that’s copyright infringement but I can take your work and say look because of this I think that this Pro you’re allowed to do that that’s called fair use wake up and uh but he threatened to take me down

Hard want take me down hard uh I just saw a tip come in I think let’s go back over to Rockin real quick see who’s there uh no maybe not what does it say why does this say I got a tip if I didn’t who is

This huh weird I guess I get it before it shows up on the actual screen uh Edward Rainey five bucks says great show where do we find the Eminem parody song that you did awesome song that is on uh so weird that it doesn’t show up

On Rockin though why am I getting tips on my stream and on rockin it’s weird uh it’s on my YouTube channel let me see if I have it here if I go back one I hope it’s there boom I’m going to put the link in The Rockin chat since I think

You’re over there and I’ll also put it has YouTube chat there still yeah what restore chat all right there you go if anybody wants it I don’t know if you do or don’t contrl V there you go and for Rockin control and V okay you should have it everybody yes

Good we’re good yes okay we’re GNA go back over here Odyssey and I gotta think which do I want to play there’s a lot of old ones and we got new fakes it’s a good one uh or uh NASA CGI is a good one or uh what else oh I like the uh

The song with my wife the little one where the little girl singing it’s a good one but I don’t we’re the scientist or something God there’s so I gota watch some these are good videos these are great but anyway when I took them all down because I was going to get my

Channel deleted at least I knew they were all on Odyssey and I was like oh that’s great I’ll always have a home location for of course Odyssey is going to shut down and we’ll have to move them somewhere else and I’m not going to tell you where they’re going to be yet but

You could probably figure it out if you look around I just don’t want to say yet because I’m not ready for that yet soon soon enough we got to get through the uh I got a lot of things going on got to get through this I got to get my movie

Out by the uh first I’m going to do a marathon New Year’s Eve so join me for that and we will debut my new movie uh at that time uh on the night of the 12th to the 1st or 31st to the 1st which will be just days before my birthday and okay

Keep going back God I remember all the Friday lounges man there’s so many in there okay so many good videos in here how to mail a letter for two cents great video how to save 90% on smoking cigarettes well now I can do a video how

To save 100% just quit smoking but new fakes is that good yeah I like new fix let’s watch that uh I think so yeah we’ll watch that while I write you your test questions to see who’s going to win the VIP pass it is a $75 Value Plus it’s

Actually multiple thousands of dollars of value if you really think about it you get to spend the evening with Austin and I so pretty much there’s no price you can put on that uh let’s go with new fakes we’ll be right back don’t go anywhere if you want to win the VIP You had your time now you got to go so withdraw fing ya algebra don’t you know no need to frown but you got to go cuz what we saw so bizar Nas switch up cuz we got to stop with the so pack your Landers fast cuz we’re

Getting rid of y’ we’re wanting to ditch you can’t quite see why some lunatics want to out out Again the CGI we’re getting so old Mama Trump or Obama all these sloppy Choy cies got to go NASA NASA goes nowhere NASA if you care yes we want some new NASA NASA L here NASA take a chair yes we want some new n n n

N round up those lives from long ago AIO take with Y the lunar mod and the RO don’t you want to let Apollo go I say yes you say yes oh yes back down Falcon first enter Elon he haes from Africa dick NASA so you can bet that

He’ll be fing keep an eye in the sky for Elon before he steals another Bon or launches or lands another rocket A NASA NASA goes nowhere NASA if you care we want some new NASA NASA listen here NASA take a chair yes we want some new face hey we want some new face hey we want some new face hey we want some new face hey we want some new face

He NASA NASA goere NASA if you care yes we want some new NASA NASA Len here NASA take a chair yes we want some new new new F new fakes the fakest fake ever faked ever faked she see it’s funny because she actually learned that line in Korean for the song

So excellent job missa very good very good very well done all right I’ve got three of the four questions and I’m trying to think of uh uh uh oh I’ll get it right here yes that’s a good one okay let’s put this here and um yes this one or what yeah okay all

Right here’s your duty as we bring up now I’m only going to be able to watch one chat so probably I’ll say it’s got to be the YouTube chat let’s see did everybody go to D live or want check be funny if they did dve now has I lost my

Channel my channel D live has five viewers sry zero people went there it’s pretty good not bad at least people listen to me all right so let’s see here I’m going to give you four questions your answer must be uh yeah I would prefer if it said one

And the answer but it could just be the the answers so we’re just going to be looking for the first person to give all four answers uh in a text form right and let me tell you the first answer has two words the second answer has one word the third answer has

Two words and the third has one word so it should be two words one word two words one word okay that should be your answers here goes the questions ready and then soon as I ask the fourth one whoever first let me bring up the chat I

Don’t have it up that’s not going to be very good for figuring out who wins you will win a $75 ticket to the next weekends Summit all right we’re ready good all right here we go spoiler word there was no win because Greg flipped the board

That’s it I’m out of here got to do it all right who did Greg lock say was the originator of Flat Earth that is going to be a person’s name to a first and a last name who did Greg lock say was the originator of the Flat Earth let’s go to

Number two a level only works because of what number one who did Greg lock say was the originator of Flat Earth two words second one a level only works because of blank that’ll be one word number three who will be joining me after Christmas to discuss Freemasonry

Two words the person’s name you got who did Greg lock say was the originator a level only works because of blank and who will be joining me after Christmas to discuss Freemasonry and last I got in trouble for saying something about Masons so I asked today

Are they moral men or are they blank one word we’re looking for the first one to answer two words comma one word comma two words comma one word okay we’ll be looking for it let’s see so far nobody who’s going to be the Victor so far nobody so far nobody let’s

See so far nobody wrong first person wrong later Kevin you what do you mean you wouldn’t get to use it you you get lifetime access you would get to use it wrong yes flatless flatless is the winner flatless is the winner uh Joshua close but no uh he’s good you did well

Nice answer nber uh the correct answer was flatlist with Mark Braun gravity Marty leads losers that was correct it was Marty Braun I mean Mark Braun gravity Marty leads losers uh flatless can you are you don’t know if you’re on telegram or not but if you are please

Reach out to me t.me jism if you’re not email me at jiren jism and uh can you do it tonight and I’ll go out in the garage and I will uh look for that first off so I can get you your ticket and thank you for playing uh this is terrible because

I was there tonight oh sorry well would you have gotten all those no I guess you wouldn’t have been able to get the other two sorry about that yes I should have given uh we we’ll give some away this week uh Austin and I are doing the speakers corner on Thursday we’re also

Going to be doing a pre-show on Friday um and I thought something going on Wednesday oh so Wednesday we’ve got Karen B against sacred knowledge in melted buildings on debatis that is one day later than it normally is because uh Karen can’t do Tuesdays uh can I still

Get a bill NASA hat there is is no more I might have one more maybe I don’t know actually I’ll check that let see it’s for you J we we got to look for that though okay got that one on there too all right guys hopeful you had fun hope

A good day dir thank you for dir did you see what happened you got to go back and watch the last half hour I made so much money because people were all clamoring to get you on the show and then as soon as you came on they all stopped so we

Have I have a new plan which is just you sit in the chat like right now say you want to get on the show say like dude jiren let me on jiren I want to watch I want to be on the show with you and I’ll

Just pretend like I don’t see it and then I’ll get $700 in super chats and then I’ll be like oh Dave wants to get on let me bring him on so that’s my way to get rich now I’ll tell missa to go ahead and start uh looking at uh

Interior designs for the Mercedes so uh thank you Chicago artist you’re awesome uh I sent you the scripture you were looking for what which one what what scripture was I looking for oh love you when you leave J in the back room did you check the PO Box Sharon uh

Yeah the other day but it was nothing from you so it must be just two days ago I’m in the back room Dave we gotta work on this this is this would be great all right guys tomorrow GL Busters 12 noon Pacifica be there or be very

Very Square we’re going to play the ad on the way out here and then we are gone so much love to everybody and we’ll see you B oh not yet don’t do that yet and if you do go to the true ether.com and you want to sign up uh you can pick

My name if you’d like to support me but if you’d like to support one of the speakers do that or you can select pick all or you can pick Dave Weiss if you want to uh make him Rich all right all righty guys it’s been fun thank you guys

So much this has been a fun stream looking forward to tomorrow and uh going forward I remind you guys please do your own research when you do you’ll never again believe all the [ __ ] you’ve been taught till next time this has been jism and peace nope that’s not right either great

I screwed up this one we’ll fix it there we go Peace [Applause] All right stop scammer time I am Mak an Oakley and I am always right destroying my opponents well cuz I M their M so why would I ever stop my simple gri I’ll go after flat earther When My Views could use a lift now I can feed my girls from

The money that I make I’m a scammer no man I don’t matter every day I’m bait can’t trust this yeah chocolate what I’m a homie you can’t trust this T man lift your head up for a second good boy thank you you can’t trust this Golem nice

Morning Show this morning who was it three viewers nice game himself it’s cool

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