Thing I I don’t agree with not dating trans men because I would but trans women I wouldn’t is because I don’t want a woman and I am attracted to men and there some fine ass trans men out here I will eat you from the RO to the TOA and
And if you ain’t poking me I’m poking you godam it welcome to the urban pulse podcast ignite conversations that drive transformation with your host Brandon Holmes whether you’re a healthcare hero a dedicated teacher or a passionate Community Advocate this is your space to explore learn and
Lead hello and welcome to the very first episode of the urban pul brought to you by My Brothers Keeper I’m your host Brandon Holmes today you in for a special treat our very own Gerald Gibson and Mario MacDonald join us the show today which promises to be a very
Spirited conversation view discretion is advised so buckle up and let’s Dive Right to it all right guys hey how y’all doing hey I can’t complain complain good good you have a good night last night great great night yummy a yummy night I’m up this early my eyes Okay okay so Mario what’s
Your mission at nbk what’s your role so I am the program manager for Apex 2.0 and I also op as the accounting controller as well helping out on the finance team okay Gerald hey good morning everyone Gerald Gibson here the one and only I am the director of lgbtqi
Inclusion and Community engagement I also assist with capacity building on apex 2.0 as well okay okay I tell you what let’s jump right into it guys so coming out okay and for the people at home that don’t know what coming out means the term coming out means is acknowledging and disclosing your sexual
Orientation or your gender identity coming out do you believe it’s important and if so why uh I don’t believe in coming out at all I to my authentic self coming out is a term that I do not agree with you’re a heterosexual man I’m Gaye bleep bleep
You didn’t have to come out so I don’t feel that I had to I came into my authentic self and I acknowledge the people that I love so it’s not everyone business to really be who I am cuz guess what they really don’t care anyway so I
Don’t believe in the the phrase a term coming out at all in my perspective I think that it’s important to whoever is important to like some people are empowered by coming out but some people don’t need it said me myself personally I I’ve never felt the need to come out
Is because my heterosexual Brothers never came home and said Mama I’m straight and so I don’t feel that I should come home and say mama I’m gay and even in a setting where um I’m discussing with my family they were just like you never really just came out you
Just always showed up as you I said yeah because in this space I’m not trying to have sex with anybody so my sexual orientation is not important at this moment like I’m showing up as me and you going to love me for who I am or you’re
Not going to love me at all so the piggyback on that so you me you hit on quite a bit there but family what did they I know you say you didn’t come out per se but once they acknowledge and realize it what kind back hey my mom
That’s the bomb.com that’s my best friend she ain’t gone some of my aunts disagree but guess what my mom brought the hammer down that woman right there do not play about me period so my family support is definitely there my brothers are there all other family are there but
I think it’s the fact of being raised in the Bible Bel this being the bucket of the Bible Bel we use church as a crutch but we also use Church to stigmatize individual that are not like us Sin is Sin at the end of the day look right hey
I can guarantee you everybody have not been faithful in their marriages everybody have done some things so to try to use that against me I had to empower myself and I really have to give my mom credit for that and my grandmother God Rest her soul for just
Empowered me to be myself it was things that I didn’t realize in my childhood CU they were ding to make sure I was good because they would never let anybody say nothing about me and I didn’t realize it then that I was different but I guess
They must have seen something in me that they realized I was different so they was like okay we’re g to do put a little more protection around him and let him know that he’s love okay okay good so this it’s going to be a conversation Millennials and and Gen X all right all
Right Gen X so this is what this debate is going to be about have a a great conversation about that let me ask you guys this anywh you guys want to go first okay what are some of the misconceptions you believe that are in the gay community those on the outside
Looking in educate the people at home what are some of the misconceptions that you believe I would say that there’s a look people expect gay people to look a certain way you you expect the feminine of gay to always show up so when the masculinity of gay show up you be like
Oh you too fine to be gay oh why you gay oh I’mma turn you out and stuff like that you know what I’m saying I would say one of them it’s a lot of misconceptions about the gay community especially like when in the setting with heterosexual men they think that because
You’re a gay you want them put us in an uncomfortable situation too to where we don’t even feel comfortable being friends with heteros ual because we don’t want to think that they that we them I have a lot of heterosexual Friends by the way and they love the out of me and if
I call them they coming they know that they coming or they coming huh they coming or they coming either or either or hey look hey but to your point before you get to it okay once I got this job I’ve been here for about almost three years now okay and family
And friends when I told them what I do here and um what’s my mission here and things of that nature I was like uh it was like are you comfortable doing I said what you mean how are you able to work and how you to move around I said
I’m good I said look I got better heteros I got better gay friends than heterosexual friends and now have I been tried knowing full well they knew I was heterosexual yes I had to address that but but no it was it was one of them things and people say Brandon you all
Stop looking the way you looking then I said what you mean the way I’m look don’t looking that’s me that’s me that’s me but go ahead uh I think to P back on what Mario said we are not monolithic all of us are not feminine oh big
Words you big words that at Jackson State your is ruing my point again we are not monolithic and then like he said but I I will say to my heterosexual brother that are my friends individual question the friendship MH they make them feel like it’s something wrong with them okay what
Are you trying to tell us is it something wrong with you so again their bravery and their empowerment to even be friends with us is questioned by family and friends for a lot of them and one of my brothers right now we hang all the time individual like hanging with you
What’s going on you want to tell me something so again it’s nothing wrong with a friendship but it’s what everybody on the outside do externally what they do and try to make people feel right so you have to even be brave again to be friends with us but guess again
Like we all said we the best friends ever we got your back down to the end to the end okay so what does dating look to like to y’all o for me it’s easy cuz I’m engaged for him it’s different you know how Mario do don’t speak for
Me back of my hand I know you like the back of my hand Mario is a it’s a little different you know what I’m saying he’s out there he’s chucking and Jing weaving and Beav whatever he be doing I got my own response go ahead with yours but no
It’s different because again again working doing the work that we do individual already assume that you liveing with HIV and there’s nothing wrong with living with HIV again I have friends family everybody but I’m not living with HIV people automatically assume that you’re living with HIV what
I want to do is educate individuals about awareness prevention treatment prep make sure you taking your intro viral medications so I want to be a vessel so how they perceive me is cool because the end of the day I’m here for one reason to make sure my community is
Protected I didn’t had a best friend to die from complication of HIV and a and that hurt my heart cuz he felt like he could not tell me and that still hurts me to this day I want everybody to know I’m here for you whether I’m living HIV
Or not I’m still here for you period Point Blank dating for me is built off of a physical attraction first you say that and then I want to be mentally and emotionally connected to the person that I’m dating learning how can we love and engage each other on our imperfections make our imperfections
Perfect for us and and grow from that and see what the world and life has to offer us and have fun until there’s no more fun to be had amen amen go ahead pastor does size matter size of what size of penis oh yeah yeah does it
Matter oh yeah they the bottoms Mario can tell he bottom the bottom they see how he bottom shame see how he bottom shame they matter I I was waiting on it physique wise don’t be on my 600 PB life but I love thick men I love thick twin yeah I love thick
Men men’s with a e and a Z men’s I love thick men’s yes but penis size no it depends on who is connected to like my attraction to that person if my body will be willing to relax for you you know what I’m saying or if it’s just I
Want to say that I had you and I just want it to be a my body might not as relax as much it depends on the attraction of the person but no size don’t matter if it’s connected to a person that I’m for most bottom sze
Matter Mario yeah I know I got a friend I got a friend and and uh that friend will take this whole room up that friend will suck this whole room up I’m talking about this mic don’t stand a chance this this is the smallest thing and it’s
Going to have to be the last thing if he wanted some more okay but yeah to me size does not matter as long as my body relax to you but some like J said some people yeah size matter it matters some size will matter now J I know you say I
Know you say that you’re engaged but yes Mario do you date multiple people yes he does at multiple time on multiple days in multiple days I used to um and I did that is because dating you you’re getting to know a person and so you you don’t want
To put all of your eggs in one basket as they say um and I was just like let me date multiple people um because like I want to experience and explore because I’m single really I’m not obligated to anything or anybody when I’m dating and then this person recently came into my
Life and they were just like those people that allowed you to do that were child that CH was playing with you I want all of your attention and he popped the question and said would you date me exclusively and I said Mario don’t date exclusively everybody I said yes I’m
Trying something new you glowing you glowing oh okay I may be wrong thank you standing right like a diamond that’s my song that’s what I did my drag show here you do drag once it was a benefit show for My Brother’s Keeper thank you do that there you go
You putting me in the Box n I’m not asked the question as the question how you ask we having a conversation it’s how you asked it all right got it’s how you ask it so let me ask you guys this what what terms do you deem offensive
Okay don’t ask Mario that because I love a term that everybody hates so I’m not gonna say it I love pleas say it I love the term I love it but it offends a lot of people so I apologize in advance is is it one of
Those I can talk about my mom but you can’t type deal cuz what if someone called you how would that feel to you I’m good cuz I know who I am okay see I I’m walking in my purpose now when I was maybe it would hurt my I was
When I was young but now I’m walking my purpose that doesn’t affect me your words do not describe me I know exactly who I am but again I don’t want to Fe my community so I apologize in advance I love the word I thought the word seen
Back in the day the word queer was offensive back in there but now it s like they’re embracing it now but see but quir never really hit the black gays it never really hit us like that quir was always something for white gay okay so it never really affected us it never
Really just hit us we never felt it so quit was always something like when worried about that so it was never really even used in the black community or as me I don’t know about Mario specifically but for me no yeah not queer I don’t have any experience with
Queer but like any term now is used as a a form of empowerment because a lot of people because like homosexuality same gender living that is that it’s being more accepted in the world now and so a lot of people are using those derogatory terms used to be derogatory terms as
Empowerment Punk is the acronym for professional Uncle no kids and so can be used as like free and gorgeous or something like that you know what I’m saying yeah Empower yourself with these words don’t allow these people to tear you down still is because people love you and if they don’t them because
I’m using my word later you saving yours I got a good one it was this older guy J car yeah J car happy birthday car birthday birthday J car see down there right now okay she went okay I love his energy and he calls himself a all the way
Down to the ciest and I was just like why do you use turn he was just like baby that don’t bother me he said that don’t bother me he said the boys that called me the C was the boys that I’m laying up with look and I like we I like
We had a whole session entitled look responsible horn look and nobody want to leave the session it was so wanted more they wanted more he need his like you say a whole day he need his own whole day I agree need a whole day yeah okay
So let’s switch gears a little bit okay all right and this is one of the reason why I want to do this podcast in the first place okay overheard you guys talking about bottom shaming oh now please define that for the people at home I do not bom say yes I do not
Bottom it first okay Mario can Define it cuz he’s a bottom I’m a top but I do not bottom see how he just bottom bot that was not I will bottom ain’t nothing wrong with bottom but I know you do but you still bottom shame no I didn’t bottom shame that
Bottom sham okay bottom Shaman is demising someone who is the receiver of anal yeah got to be more graphic Mario no tell them exactly what that is what is everybody know no everybody don’t bottom the bottom is the person that is receiving penis in their and I look in their
Adam wck them know the correct word I’m used to I’m used to using ass and dick but uh we are being politically correct okay yeah yeah that’s education coming out of you um I never went to alorn I know I say LA but that’s what a bottom
Is a person that’s the receiving partner and bottom shaming is when they demise that person that bottoms as it belits them to be the bottom they are a less damn person a lot of people a lot of people now are trying to con convince themselves that they are verse um when
They know they love bottoming but they feel comfortable saying that they verse because it empowers them a little bit to say that they I will talk and some people are saying that they are verse tops to let you know that I’m a bottom but I’ll top you you know what I’m
Saying or I’m a top but I have bottom for you but some people use that as a cover up because of bottom shaming because they’ve been belittled or heard somebody belittle somebody else because of them being a bottom and that’s what bottom shaming is but it’s just individuals that say that they’re
Bisexual they’re not really bisexual M because it’s easier to be accepted well it’s not really but in the sense of some way because again bisexual not accepted by anybody pretty much but it’s easier to say that I’m bisexual then to say that I’m G or I’m same gender loving or
I’m a homosexual or I’m a or I’m a punk or whatever the term that people still use these days yeah and bisexual is lost in the sauce like they don’t have any data I don’t see any data around being bisexual what that looks like being bisexual I don’t see anything
Built for bisexual individuals like what that what a workshop what like health care and everything looks like for bisexual it’s either you gay you straight you trans you know what I’m saying the trans don’t have a lot of data no the trans don’t but we’re learning about them we’re
Learning yeah and bisexual and it is Data around bisexual people and I did misspeak edit point but it’s no programming built for them that’s what I was trying to say okay hey listeners whether you in Jackson or Hattisburg Mississippi open arms Healthcare Center is your go-to for comprehensive Healthcare we’re not just
A clinic but a community partner dedicated to allinclusive care for our diverse Neighbors from Wellness visits to specialized Services we got you cover dive into becoming a healthier you with open arms learn more at oah cc.org again that’s oah cc.org open arms Healthcare Center Embracing Health embracing Mississippi
You you H you hit on trans now I got this these questions from the communities okay these are some of the questions I’m going to ask and I feel like that you guys they won they got questions you won’t answer yeah yeah and and I’m willing to tell the truth yeah
So would you date a trans man now I would let me finish let me finish now notice that they didn’t put transwoman so I want you give me a reason why you think that’s uh the reason why is that but would you date a trans man I
Wouldn’t is is not a bias it’s just that I love I new my pref I love aist General man the new pref the new term that we just learned what three years ago I think yeah 100% my feeling say is a sis GLE man it’s nothing that I have against
I love my people all of them but they’re just my preference and same thing I don’t agree with not dating trans men because I would but trans women I wouldn’t is because I don’t want a woman and I am attracted to men and there some
Fine ass trans men out here I will eat you from the r to the tooda and and if you ain’t poking me I’m poking you godam it can’t take you nowhere I’m still showing [Laughter] up so that’s your take on that yes trans Men Are Beautiful Creatures I think
Everyone is beautiful yeah but see I have a physical attraction to the male physique I do too and um and when they show up and they look what they supposed to look like I be like God damn that’s deep okay let’s switch a little bit how does HIV and STDs look in the
Community and you can speak on past present and future okay okay well we definitely do that I I’ve SE from the beginning we can’t speak on future so we we can speak on on past and now I’ve been there where it took two weeks to get your H resource back and that was
Hell on just waiting those two weeks to get those results back and you could been using condoms or whatever you know what I’m saying I’m not a fan of using condoms all the time but that time frame was held to wait for those results because in the beginning we did not have
All these medications we didn’t have prep we didn’t have injectable antov viral medication we just didn’t know and and also it was not a lot of resources out there I did not know of My Brother’s Keeper back then I was not aware that we had an organization that was here
Specifically for us that was conceptualized by black gay man that that went to DC and said hey we need funding for us we are dying here not just white gays are dying we are dying over here too so he got together with some other black gay men that were run
The organization said we need funding we need find in Mississippi we need find in Atlanta other organization I can’t think of everybody right now but to realize that it was something for us by us that was for me but I thought I was by myself waiting for those two weeks to get those
Results back that was amazing I bet that was a try time it was so hard man it was and then just to when individuals realized that they uh that they did get those reactive results where they were positive it was just like life was ending and seeing it all around me it
Was scary because I had so many individuals dying around me like God I’m blessed just what I wasn’t special could happen to me too I was doing everything they was doing so I was not special it was the fact that I just end up being just special in that moment but not
Special to realize that but yeah those times waiting that long but to see our organization way we have Dr Gibson has brought us into the Forefront we have Open Arms now where we have organization that say hey come here we got you we’re not worried about any money and just
Come be great we’re going to make sure that you’re good from them like Mario said from the rud of to not only we talking about your HIV care we talking about you as a person let’s talk about mental health let’s talk about social support so do you need food let’s talk
About do you need be connect to housing we talking about everything I couldn’t conceptualize that back when I was first get my first HIV test seeing where we are now I feel great however we still had individual that are still Contracting HIV we still have individ still dying from HIV complication of
AIDS and that really hurts my heart because we’re trying to get to the point of in HIV epidemic and I don’t think we’re there yet okay yeah from my excuse me from my perspective I didn’t know anything about HIV and STDs until 2009 I graduated high school in 2006 I was just
Out here just living my best life but uh it’s just something that I just wasn’t around like that conversation I wasn’t around it when I came to Jackson in 2000 no 2008 cuz that’s when I met Jal Nim at the club they were doing Outreach and my
Brother them had took me to the gay club from my first time oh my god when I tell you I was swinging from the chandelier he really he serious he really was I remember like it was yesterday but my brother’s keeper was there doing Outreach in 2008 at Metro
And I met J Chris Roby Cedric stur and I think that probably be it and they were just there and they were just like oh sign up for this program I think it was like 3mv or something yeah and we had I was just like okay I’m down with it and
That’s where I that’s where my Foundation started with the education around it like when I started getting into it I was just like oh my God this could have happened to me because I wasn’t using condoms I wasn’t using condoms but I think you know the most
High I was just like oh my God like I wasn’t using condom sucking dick I wasn’t using com having sex like I could have been a walking infestation like just infecting people because I was messing with people back then too and like what it looks like now for me I
Didn’t get on I went through a program called AO and it was the africanamerican HIV University by through B10 but it was ran by black a Institute in La I went to that they was educating us about prep I didn’t get on prep until recently is because I was just Like toy experiment and I was just like no not for me but now it’s my my conscience is at a sense of freedom to where I was like hypochondriac to where like you couldn’t touch me and not have me to go to the clinic and get checked
And I’m talking about every day I’m talking about if somebody touch me sexually if we kiss sexually I’m going to want to go to the clinic and get checked up if I see a bump on me I’m telling thect sh like a bad pull the blood straight from this bump I want to
Know exactly what it is I want to know exactly what it is I’m talking about my anxxiety will it is feel bad I have anxiety about life but like my anxiety was so bad around my sexual experience that it was just like I rather not have
Sex no he’ll go do it again the very next minute I will if I’m back out there stre back in them Street some new Street booty but yeah that’s a sense of Freedom Prep was a sense of freedom for me and then now with me working in the
Healthcare industry um Co I was look hesitant about getting the covid vaccine itself because I didn’t understand it and then I love to travel and they were just like you can’t go nowhere and I was just like oh give me that vaccine you know and I saw that it didn’t kill
Me and what I’m learning is that our community hinder us from a healthc care growth because we the lack of participating in studies and things of that nature um we have like the injectable preps that’s out and um Open Arms is doing that study and we need
People to come in so we can see how that work in our community um I’m mad that they not allowing people that been taking the pill for of prep not to participate in that study because if I can go and take a shot every six months
Instead of taking a pill every day I am more prone to adherence with my medication with those six Monon shots because I know that I’m going to go get that and that’s one time and then like I’m taking a pill every day when I might be hung over and I can’t even Force
Nothing down my throat and so I’m nothing down your throat I thought it was always open for business it it depends on what’s being force is it’s you know it’s priority you have to prioritize yourself sometimes but don’t mess with me don’t mess with me if I’ve been drink there
Also compensation for these trial STS correct yes it is it is yeah it is and then the injectable what when Jal was saying that we’re not addressing the end and the HIV epidemic it’s because some people are falling out of care and falling out of treatment are not
Adhering to their meds and then the injectable um treatment as prevention um methods then you don’t have to take a pill every day you can it is every other month yeah every so six times a year six times a year for the injectable HIV uh medication and that is that’s amazing we
Have all tools in the tool box you you catch that that adherence part and then that’s the issue is when people are not inherent to their Med so there’s no viral suppression just it’s it’s a Shameless plug definitely but we need to get in more of these studies and and see
What’s working for us and what’s not working for us because it’s a lot of blood pressure medicine that don’t work for us as black people and so we don’t even know that we’re just taking it because the doctor is telling us to take it and then we’re going home and we’re
Dealing with other side effects and we were just like oh it just say that this is a side effect of a medicine but we don’t know how to advocate for ourselves is because we don’t know that these drugs don’t work for us it’s because we didn’t participate in those studies
That’s true that’s true hey guys looking for comprehensive inclusive healthc care in Jackson of Hasbury Mississippi open arms Healthcare Center has got you back we dedicate to making sure everyone in our diverse Community feels recognized valued and treated with the best medical expertise what is a routine checkup or
Specialized Care open arms are here for you find out more at o hcc.org again that’s o hcc.org your health our commitment open NS Healthcare Center creating a culture of Wellness for everyone prep is for everyone right YES Prep is for everyone I I hate the misconception about prep it’s for every
With that being said so is there a shame on using prep it was a shame you was called travado was the first prep medication and travada prep is for everybody but you have to understand what’s for you travada is for currently women and thei travat is for men and
Women and thei is Just For Men at this moment just understanding what is for you as well okay all right Unity do you feel there’s a sense of unity in the gay community in here in Jackson Mississippi no we’ll segmented no and I think that we and Mario might
Agree May disagree I feel like we get the blame for being us but we have to be sexualized in the community and we have to work in the community so it’s a double- eded sword for us because again I still want to have sex but I also want
To protect the community so we’re being penalized for being able to do both again they’ll say that they want some black gay men in our clinic and then they don’t so you we can’t have it both ways we cannot have it both ways one minute we’re there and then we’re don’t
You want us to be at the club you don’t want us to be at the club cuz we don’t do anything like that anymore we don’t go to the club cuz again we want them to be free we want them to be free so we are definitely looking out for our
Community we want be like give us some of the same love back sometime we got your back is there any Unity inside Community internal the community is segmented we we have our groups and anything we have a specific message and we’re going to stay on board with that
Cuz again I want you to get tested I want you to get on PR you need to be and guess what after that if you need treatment come on we got you no one is ever going to know your name we’re we we’re not doing that we will never do
That yeah yeah it’s they don’t understand the MTH that we’re giving it’s all love from us but sometime we don’t get the love back yeah yeah so I would definitely say no to the Unity part U we’re uh we working in our solos and reaching out to the head of these
Salos it’s difficult working with them as well is because they didn’t come up with the idea or they wasn’t included in the foundation of what was set up and stuff like that and so they’re shutting down and they shut their their people down um because they don’t want them to
Be a part of that because they don’t want to see it succeed and J had said something earlier that I wanted to speak on Dar I can’t think about it though I can’t remember it but it was on the tip of my tongue so I I will
Forget I should have had me a piece of paper over here writing down be like oh yeah I want to put on the table I know because it’ll be like we advertising for them I can’t believe we’re going to be advertising paper we should have had a MBK Notepad
Yeah I forgot what I was going to say but yeah we can go move along okay so we about to close here so if there if there was one thing that you could change for your community what would it be policy wise anything like that what would it be
Okay so we in Mississippi so we’re looking at all kind of policies not only are it policies against a trans individual which coming from all of us but it’s also policies against just reading books we have POS you can’t even read if we can’t educate ourselves they want us to eradicate ourselves MH
Without education we’re eradicating ourselves so I could look at anything around positive one need to go vote on November 7 we need a new govern we need a new governor we need to get rid of T CH he needs to be gone let’s see what PR
Again because he did Medicaid so I want access for me let people have access let’s educate them with the access and then we can do our preventive and treatment measures but at least give individuals access now that’s something that we’re doing great cuz again not
Only we do have our brick and mor Clinic we have a mobile clinic that goes around the state of Mississippi that provides all of these services for free let’s talk about your blood pressure let’s talk about gluc close and then we talk about your sexual health we’re not even
Talking about your sexual health initially we talking about everything else because going down the community what we’re seeing is Young individuals have blood pressure that’s way too high and I’m like oh my God that’s because they don’t have the education around food we have too many food swamps and
Mississippi we have too many food deserts so again I want us to have access to everything we need but with that access you all have to come we can give you all the access but you have to access it you have to come out and
Engage in it be a part of it so again I want you to do it all and drill said get out and vote for Brandon Presley I think I no I am not a republican um but I will say it doesn’t matter who you vote for as long as you
Voting um that is very important to exercise your right to vote get out and learn about these candidates and see who you want to lead you in the next four years two years three years six months like whoever you want to lead you whoever you want to follow and to make
Things and make changes for you whoever you believe in will do the right thing for you vote for them and one thing that I would changing if I had the ability to change in our community is the stigma around our community I I promise I promise I am so tired of
Hearing stigma oh my God I am so tired of hearing stigma but if it’s one thing that I would change because we talking we never put to it you know what I’m say and then we to build these programs and then our community don’t have a voice on whether
They wanted it or not just because you build it don’t mean they’re coming and we think that we know what the community need but the community sometimes don’t even have input on the things that’s built for them and then just because I’m a part of the community don’t mean that
I’m the best representation of the community as well so just making sure that you getting different viewpoints like making sure that you getting people that are invested in the community like those Salos those leads on those Salos that I was talking about earlier they need to be sitting at a table and they
Can influence their followers or however they want to deem themselves they can influence them to do whatever they need to do and you have the dance Community you have the drag Community you have the the houses the families Mississippi is big on family and you have families that
You can go into and build that connection with and then sometimes they’ll shut down on you because of what you’re bringing they wish they would have brought it first and then you have the underground Greeks yeah I forgot about which also are like real fraternities and sororities gay commun
Because they are in Incorporated they’re just not a part of the Divine man which one are you a part of huh which one are you a part of this is not about me but I did enjoy my process I’m glad that I am what I am and huh what are you
Again I am glad that I am what I am and um like it was it’s I’m outgrowing it that’s what I’m saying I’m out growing it yeah okay was there anything that we did not touch on that you guys feel we should that’s very important to you
Anything that actually came up and in conversation that you need to address not per se to address but I just want everybody to come out and enjoy Jackson black prize starting November the 16th so come out and enjoy yourself we’ll be at the Western Hotel in Jackson come out
And enjoy yourself you with your people we have we want to empower you we are creating a safe Brave empowering space I’ll be there I know y’all don’t want to see Mario and he gonna be there too but we know y’all want to see me yes in visit uh Jackson black pride
We have some very special guest that are showing up so jacksonblack pride.com and RSVP yes yes anything else no not for me um if I had something to add we’ll be here all day yeah he’ll never go home no cuz I don’t I can’t stop talking I cannot stop Yes I
Do and I love talking big look I’m talking about Mad Dog 2020 I hear you on your ass hey mad do 2020 made me kick my homeboy t- Toops out his cut oh my God yes I can never drink that again my god oh no it was horrible that’s the
Type of I talk I enjoyed you guys hey we enjoyed you as well oh I love it on a Saturday by the way when I Saturday morning Saturday morning yeah Saturday morning so let you know I’m engaged okay so visit our website nbk inc.org also
Where can we find you guys my handle for Snapchat is dreadhead magd my handle for Instagram is intense desire and my Facebook is Mario McDonald and and I think that’s all the social media platforms and then you can call me at 601 now just wa you can find me on Facebook at Geral
Terrell Gibson and on Instagram you can find me at g r _ 08 oh yeah and Tik Tok I don’t do too much and I can’t sing but I’m on there singing but you can find me as Scorpio uh I think it’s the Scorpio tiktock or something like that but I’ll
Shoot it to y’all if y’all and hit me up on them other social media platforms thank you guys you’re welcome thank you thank you thank you guys for joining us today follow subscribe to all of our platforms the urban pulse My Brothers Keeper till next time
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