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Edification purposes discretion is advised what’s up what’s up I’m back y’all I hope y’all can hear me I’ve been gone for a little bit but I’m happy to be here I see y’all in the comment section listen y’all share it with your friends I know y’all got friends and my
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Ahead share share share share share thank y’all for being here I’m so excited for today’s show it is a very sensitive topic but it is a needed topic but I’m glad that you guys are here nonetheless y’all look at everybody saying what’s up to us y’all see them in
The building y’all they say what’s up hey y’all thank you guys for being here we appreciate it we’ve been gone for a little bit but I’m glad that you guys are here like always so what we’re going to do is instead of wasting any more time we’re going to go ahead and
Introduce our special guest so special guest I’m going to bring you guys up one by one and I’m going to give you a chance to introduce yourself introduce yourself if you want to share share anything with the people um that you might be working on and then also give
Us a brief not too much because we don’t want to get too much away give a brief uh explanation on why you’re here and what your position is um and then we’ll get into the show so the first one up is Charlie beats what’s up girl go ahead int introduce yourself to
The your mute y Mike there you yeah hey y’all I am Charlie beats heyy hey frh shout out to you thanks for joining my view is that black women love their hair regardless if we choose to cover it and hide it and I think that’s our own personal preference
Preference and we should not be judged so that’s my view and I have reasons for what I believe I am a singer songwriter rapper producer uh Arthur uh movie script writer short story writer all of that I love writing so that’s me you un mute CH Christina you on mute
Thank you thank you thank you all right let’s bring the next special guest up introduce yourself to the people and a brief explanation on why you’re here and your position on it hello everyone my name is Apple and I’m here for pro natural I believe you should love your
Natural hair because it teaches you self love and your hair is a part it’s a big part of self um I’m a I’m a stay-at-home mom I am here in about two or three weeks I am am going to be opening up me a YouTube page it’s going to be called let’s glow
And grow sisters and I have my many reasons for natural hair and you’ll see as it go on thank you all right thank you thank you all right next introduce yourself to the people and why you came on the platform hey everybody my name is verita
Um I am in the middle I just believe a woman will love should love their hair no matter what state it’s in um even if you wear your weaves you should still love what is under your weave as far as as natural girls we should enjoy what we
Have play with the hair that we have we’re not stuck in one position um a little bit about about myself I am a mother of two um I am a legal clerk by day loctician by trade um I love music I love people and I’m ready for this conversation I like
That so I got all right Echo okay this is what we’re do I appreciate it can you m okay do y’all hear Echo now perfect okay good thank you so that’s what we’ll do when each one of us like if Charlie’s talking I’ll mute my mic if Apple’s
Talking just mute your mic and we should be good sorry about that you guys that’s what happens when you go live technical difficulties but but thank you guys all for being here that’s the first thing I want to say thank you ladies for being here some of you guys this is your first
Time doing this Charlie beats you’ve been here before plus you be doing your thing all over social media so this is like you know this is your territory okay um my other sisters they’re new to the platform so I appreciate you guys I just want to make sure I take the time
To just thank you guys for being here because I wouldn’t be able to do it if it wasn’t for you guys as you guys can see Charlie knows me from going back probably 20 years uh so she knows a little bit about me personally um just
To give a disclaimer um I am mixed and some people might say well that got to do with anything it has a lot to do with anything when we’re talking about uh people’s hair especially if someone might think well you really don’t understand or you really don’t know so I
Am mixed I am black and I’m white I don’t like to say black and white but y’all know what I mean um so my hair texture is on the little bit of the softer side I feel like all hair is kind of soft just a different texture but
That’s how my texture hair is but my children are mixed so my husband’s tation so my kids do not have my same texture hair um they have more of a coarse hair um so I had to learn myself how to manage it how to take care of it
And things like that so that was one of the reasons why I wanted to do this podcast was because I see so much stuff going on out there with our little girls in their hair and it’s a lot of young girls out there not everybody but it’s a
Lot of them that don’t feel pretty if they don’t have the weed if they don’t have the wig if they don’t have it straighten or they don’t have it perm you know back then perm was big um in our little girl’s hair and I don’t want
My daughters to ever have to feel that way or anyone else daughters to have to feel that way so that was one of the reasons why I wanted to do this I want to kind of get into it real quick before I let the speakers talk I wanted to talk
About beauty so as you guys know if you don’t know you can literally go on Google the standard of beauty back then was white skinny blond hair blue eyes that’s just what it was the models was white skinny blonde hair blue eyes the people on TV the baby dolls everywhere
You went that was what the standard of beauty was I say was because it ain’t it’s starting it made a turn and the turn the turn you can clearly see is INF favorable to black women what do I mean by that back then they would pick at
Women for having a big butt y’all seen the shows oh my goodness my butt is big don’t say that having a big butt was something funny or it wasn’t n attractive or it wasn’t sexy now people getting shots just to get the big butt and black women got it naturally the big
Lips that’s not talking we we can go on about that talking about black people lips oh they’re big they’re ugly but what are people doing now they’re getting injection to get the big lips so there is a transition happening with beauty to where the big lips the big
Butt is desirable it is considered beautiful which I my personally myself feel like of all the different shades of women though all women are beautiful I feel like black women just have a certain thing about them that just stands out with their beauty whether it’s them their complexion the different
Type of texture hair whatever it is they’re are just a beautiful race of people and I’m happy to see that they’re starting to be celebrated but for some reason me personally this just me and what I’m seeing is that it’s not being transitioned with the hair and the way
That I know that this is true is because there’s an actual law that was put in place in California and it’s called The Crown act to protect black women to be able to wear their natural hair this was four years ago so this is very young why
Would we need a law to say that it’s okay to wear your natural hair without persecution that makes no sense that means black women have not been wearing their natural hair and when they do wear it they get persecuted and that’s to me if it’s only
Four years old that tells you that this is something that’s been going on for for a very very very long time so that was one of the reasons why I wanted to do it I’m going to share a few clips and then I’m going to get the panel to get
Up here and answer some questions and then of course as we go on we’ll bring people up so if anybody wants to come up after the special guest starts to speak if you want to come up and ask some questions to them we’re definitely going
To do that so for people who might say well no black people love their hair I’m not saying they don’t because we can’t speak for everybody there’s a sister on here that say I wear mine and I love mine and there’s some on here that may
Say I don’t but but as a whole I feel like our little girls are suffering because they don’t they don’t see themsel as pretty and that’s a problem if our daughters aren’t seeing themselves as pretty we got to ask why what are we doing what are we pushing down the pipeline that’s making
Our little girls think they don’t feel pretty unless they’re light-skinned they don’t feel pretty unless they have a bundle they don’t feel pretty that’s not good so I’m going to play a short clip real quick of this little angel like it I’m so ugly oh what don’t say that don’t say that
You are so pretty when you look at yourself you supposed to say I’m so pretty you are so pretty do you hear me you got the prettiest little dimples you are too cute a no oh you going to make me cry you’re not ugly you are so pretty
You like you have this beautiful chocolate skin no you not going to cry you are a beautiful little girl you are the prettiest girl in your class boom black is beautiful and if don’t nobody ever tell you I will tell you you are gorgeous and you going to grow up and
You going to be everything that you can be you hold your head up I love you so right there you see this little girl does not feel pretty and it doesn’t just stop at the hair it’s the complexion the flat nose the big nose the big lips they make it seem like it’s
Unattractive it’s not pretty it’s not beautiful and why would this girl where would this girl get this from her mom obviously loves her and tells her she loves her so where is this coming from it’s not in the home so where is it and but some people might say oh that’s just
Little kids we have grown women that’s going through this as well let’s do It wow so that is completely stuck to your edges is it completely stuck I’m going to leave this hanging here for a minute looking at you like this really honestly I feel ugly it makes you feel ugly but what would bring that on a lot
Of it has to do with um times when I would wear my natural hair my mom and my sister would make fun of me what do you mean make fun of you like if I would go out with my um my curly hair they would why are you why are you wearing your
Hair like that like it’s you need to do something with your hair my mom would say you’re going out with your hair like that and I didn’t feel pretty you know being caught names and stuff like that So so now I’m not saying that there are black women out there that don’t love their hair CU that’s a lie my daughters love their hair I have friends that love their hair um that keep their hair we got two three s not two three sisters on
Here right now that’ll tell you they love their hair I love my hair we know there are women that love their hair so when I put that question out I I don’t want you to think that I’m believing that women don’t love their hair I know women personally and even on social
Media you’ll see people out there who push natural hair who love their hair but let’s not be fooled to not say that there is not a large amount of people out there suffering that may not love their hair and not only not love their hair they don’t know how to take care of
Their hair so without further Ado I know I kind of talked a little bit look at somebody right here they said love my hair okay girl so it’s people out that love their hair but there is a large group of people that don’t love their hair so without
Further Ado I want to let the sisters talk so I want to open the mic to Charlie beats first I want to let you first if you want to say anything about what we showed just now and your position on this conversation I definitely want to say
Stuff about that because for one I love that you brought up the crown act um that’s something that I wanted to start with because when I was born in ‘8 of course you know that but for the ones who don’t know back then um we weren’t
Allowed as little kids to wear our hair in its natural state once you reached a certain age now I would say that age was probably about five six years old I could remember having to go to my great grandma and sit under the hot comb and
Get my hair straightened and I had to get my hair hot combed and and straight in for church and straight in to go here and straight in to go there and that was a routine in the black community for black girls for us little black girls growing up
That we could not wear if our hair was in its natural state the parents were criticized it was that oh those children are being mistreated people lost custody of their children and stuff like that because the these kids were deemed UNC cared for so it’s something is the
Conditioning so now we’re at a place where here we are 2023 and black women have been conditioned to treat their hair it didn’t start with us you know what I’m saying and it’s not to place the blame on us and say we don’t love our hair we love our hair but at
The same time Society does not accept our hair in its natural state unless it’s in the state of my sister visha is it Vita my mother has locks you know what I’m saying my mother locked her hair and she has long beautiful beautiful flowing locks I love my mama
Locks my sister had her locks before she she cut them she swn them back I love that but locks aren’t for me and locks aren’t for everybody I tried locks I could not manage them so here we are I was conditioned to wear my hair a
Certain way and now here I am later in life and this is the upbringing for most black girls all right all right verita do you want to speak on that yes I totally agree with Charlie be um even looking um during the time of SL slavery they made us wrap our hair up
The thing is we as women we have to realize this is our Glory this is our Crown so even if you are a sister that likes to wear weaves wigs or what not what how do you look at yourself when you take all of that off and another
Thing are you taking care of your natural Crown when you’re putting your your wigs on your head and you’re wearing them for three months at a time that’s my main concern even if I do want to wear my weave do I still love myself
When I take it off and as far as the crown act um the war against locks is real there are times where athletes actually have to have their Lots cut off in order to participate in athletic activities not only that we are stereotyped um most of the time if we’re
If we have locks they automatically think that we’re um oral spiritual or we practice this or we practice that um and that straightening comb hot comb I know all about that I know what it’s like to wake up at five o’clock in the morning Easter Sunday
Getting your hair done you better not go outside and play once you get this hot comb in your hair hair um that’s as a child not only once you go to school you have some of the girls with the long pretty hair versus the girls with the
Kinky hair oh your hair is nappy how many of us have heard that said it directly to us even if we have a perm and our ends are dead and our hair looks shabby your hair still looks nappy if it’s not straight it’s not right um with this
Conversation I just hope my sisters learn how to embrace themselves embrace your hair let that man see you without that wig on sometimes because it’s gonna happen regardless so I’m just so excited you talk about this your first time girl you doing good I what you talking my first time girl you’re doing
Fine I don’t know what you talking about thank you but yes my main thing is rather is now natural loose natural locked up or in a weave ladies let’s take care of our crowns that’s what I have to say thank you and I wanna I’m
Gonna have apple come up but I want to just show y’all something so this is what happens to your hair now of course some people say you know you got to put the protective caps you got to do certain things to prevent this but it’s women that have done this and still this
Is the result of what happens to their hair and nobody can tell me that this is okay hey you have to have a certain level to me of self-hate to do this to yourself and again Charlie beats Berita said it it is programmed as a little
Girl that you got to get that hot comb you got to do this you got to do that and to some degree I think that’s have that has caused us to uh not feel as pretty as we should not everyone but some people do not feel as pretty as they should
Because of what they’ve been conditioned to and I want to get into the conditioning what do we do now with that type of conditioning but before we do that I want to let Apple have a chance to speak so go on ahead girl you want to say anything about what Charlie said I
Said or reita said the floor is yours we we can’t hear you I think your mute your mic might be muted Check Yes okay yes it was muted I’m sorry but I totally agree with the panel and like with the law like I really don’t know
Cuz today is the first time I’ve heard of the law so when I get a chance I’ll go look it up but like I said natural is beautiful and it comes in all it doesn’t matter it comes in all styles like you got Curly Straight corly you have wavy hair I just think
That you should embrace it no matter how it is and with the videos I believe it’s more of if we start validating our little girls more at home like the more we validate the more they will know that hey I’m beautiful no matter what anyone say my
Question mute your mic for a second and then ready to speak my question to you apple is when you’re at home validating and I guess Charlie could answer this after her when you’re at home validating that your hair is beautiful your hair is beautiful but then you proceed to cover
It up the majority of the year is it kind of like CU as parents I think all of us are parents on here our kids don’t so much do what we say versus what we do so I could say to to my daughter your hair’s pretty your hair’s
Wonderful girl you got this but then I proceed to cover it could that cause some kind of confusion to a child that’s impressionable if the majority of the time her hair is being covered up um but you’re still saying she’s pretty like how do you do that so apple I want you
To handle that and then Charlie I want you to answer that question but Apple you go first well like me like depending on the age of the the child is like like me for instance like my hair is covered Sometimes I cover my hair sometimes I
Don’t now with a little child most of the time it depends you got your different people that cover their kids hair up it depends like say if they’ve been picked on at school about the hair is most of the time is when parents start doing covering up hair and things like that
But I mean I really don’t know a way to say it if someone covers their child hair I mean there’s no reason because they’re a child first of all and they should be able to embrace their beauty without their hair being covered they’re they kids they don’t know any better Okay how do how does a parent instill in their child to embrace and love their hair if they’re through the majority of the Year covering it up okay so for me covering your hair is uh important because like black hair is sacred our hair is sacred and like I
Agree with verita we have to we I take the wigs off baby at night I don’t sleep in this mess I’m sorry I can’t do it you got to let in my household my kids see the natural me but you know not to knock no other culture but our hair is so
Sacred the world can’t adapt to it even in this day so we have to cover our hair we have to hide our hair even if you have locks it doesn’t matter what state your black hair is in majority of the time you got because for one there’s
Wind damage sun damage and stuff like that that happens to our hair when it’s not in its locked form that damages your hair really severely and um when you covering it I’m going to get into the kids when you covering it like the the video you showed with the girl
With the her hair was ruin her edges and stuff that’s because some women are trying these things and these new chemicals and our hair is not designed to take all of those chemicals that girl had an allergic reaction whatever she used she need to throw it away you know
What I’m saying I was using cantou at one time when I was doing my natural hair and and it was ruining and breaking my hair off and I had to get rid of it you got to find those black brands that is designed for our hair before you put
This stuff on your head and you got to keep your hair moisturized and taken care of up under it agree with vita when it come down to my daughters in my household I wear my natural hair I would say probably two weeks to four weeks out of
A year that’s about it that’s all you going to get from me and um when I wear my natural hair it I will start off with the perm and then I like for it to go big and I would put my bands on and for
A full week I want to just expose my hair to some sunlight you know what I’m saying I train my daughters in that way my baby girl is not allowed to wear weave my youngest child cuz she has a different texture of hair and uh my oldest daughter she loves her braids she
Loves her hair to be braided down when she take her braids out and she’s in the 10th grade and she will rock her natural hair in her natural curl State because she understands how powerful her beauty is she knows that black is beautiful it is beyond you know the element uh uh the
Standard of beauty and this is the reason why they want to keep us they want us to hide it they want us to make us they want to make us feel like it’s not beautiful if you understand what I’m trying to say so I teach teach my
Daughters I teach my kids when I see other little children I make sure I compliment their black hair I make sure I tell them how beautiful they are you know stuff like that you have to do that even if we’re covering our hair regardless at the end of the day and I’m
Going wrap it up at the end of the day these kids are not just exposed to what’s going on in the household it’s apparent against the rest of the world so they’re seeing what’s happening on TV they’re seeing what’s happening in the community they’re going about what’s
Happening in the school houses with the other girls with the fair skin and the pretty hair you know or the mix uh girls with the pretty hair and the boys telling them how he like that girl but my daughter might have a crush on this
Boy but he ain’t got a crush on her with her black hair he like the girls with the pretty hair we’re going up against all of that as black mothers with our daughters in their black hair trying to instill Beauty in them at the same time
We have to put on a mask too and go out into society because I have to go to work and I can’t go to work with my hair standing up on the top of my head when I was in my can to era my mother visited
Me quick story and I was going natural and my mom visited me and we had a good time when she visited when she left one of my sisters called me and was like are you okay and I’m like yeah she said well mama called me and told me to check on
You because she said you over there going through it because your hair is standing up on your head and I’m like what I I told her I was trying to go natural not she you know what I’m saying this is what we’re up against we’re up against this this on a daily basis
Within the community within the families so we try the best we can to train our children but we’re also battling uh uh what is it 400 500 year old uh battle against black women with black hair all right everything that you said I want to say I agree with pretty much
Everything you said um a few questions were asked in the comment section and verita I’m G let you hit that up anyone who wants to come up and ask a question to anybody on the panel hit that link it’s in the chat and come on up we want to hear from you guys
You guys are here I see y’all active in the comment section hit the link come on up actually s is some question I guess for me I’mma tell you what I’m having trouble with Charlie be and I’mma let you speak again I’m just gon to let the
Other ladies talk first and then you could definitely address what I’m saying the problem I’m having is I’m hearing you say this is the problem we are under attack and we’ve been under attack for a long time and this is why we do what we do and I’m 100% agreement with you
You’re under attack and this is why you do it but the problem I’m having is if you know that you established that why would you then only show your hair four weeks out of the year and I get it you said because of this and because of
That but to me that’s just a way of to me and I could be wrong you call me out if you want to to me that’s a way of perpetuating what has got women where they are now like if for example if I know I get picked up for having big
Lips so I go and I get certain things done so they’re not so big but then I turn around and I say yeah man when you have big lips they pick at you they make black face they do all this stuff while doing something to make my lips not big
It’s like you’re showing the problem you’re exposing the problem but then you’re perpetuating it by then covering it up what I’m saying is if black hair is so beautiful which I believe it is don’t cover it you don’t cover anything that’s beautiful you don’t you uncover
It when you want to Diamond what do you do you dig in the ground and you pull that diamond out right that’s what we supposed to do if you have a light and you want to shine light in the room what do you do you put the light on a lamp
You don’t cover it so that’s kind of the problem I’m having I guess I’m trying to say like you’re saying everything and it sounds good and I agree with it but then at the same time you’re doing that so I want to let the other lady speak but I
Think it’ll be fair for you to speak now because I don’t want to lose the point what I’m trying to say but do you understand what I’m trying to say but I want to give you a chance to speak on yeah I do understand what you’re trying
To say it sounds like um I contradict myself so what I’m saying is when I say that black hair is sacred we cannot continuously expose our hair we have so many other battles that we have to continue to fight and hair is just like you said four years ago they just
Passed the crown act uh we have more you know um Frontline Val however I might want to put it that needs to be addressed versus black hair I think black women black hair is like probably should be at the very bottom even though it’s very important not to
Take away the importance from it but at the same time like um you have to cover your hair you can’t expose okay like you said it should if you have something like a diamond and this and that if I have a diamond I’m not going to go
Around to the rest of the world like I got a diamond Diamond cuz nine times out of 10 somebody going to strip me off my diamond for me covering the hair is to maintain its power maintain my power the more we expose it to the point where I
Mean this is we got to this place through all the years of when we were brought to this country or however we got here however black americ however you feel like we got here to came we came with our natural hair and it was a problem and they wanted us to covered
And look more like them and we had to look more like them because no matter how much tanning they do their hair could never look more like us you get what I’m saying so this is where the problem lies with black hair the it’s
Not that I don’t want to show my hair no I want to preserve and protect my hair because when I’m when I sent my daughter out to school and she had her Thro one day or whatever is a little girl she came home somebody cut her hair you know
What I’m saying I can’t go up in the school house and do nothing about it I got to put her here in a state where let me put your hair down because I got another daughter she comes home Mommy this person kept touching my hair you
Know let me not put my child in a predicament where she has to defend her crown for me hide the crown cover your crown hide your crown your crown is your connection to the portal and so the only time I need to reveal my connection to
That portal was when I’m access in the portal it is not for me to show the rest of the world and no validation from the rest of the world it’s between me it’s between when like I said when I need to I need that sun I’m about to reveal this
Hair I’m about to show the world its natural Glory it’s very long my M uh by the way ladies just so for the ones who don’t know it is very long yeah she’s always had long cuz we go back years she’s always had long natural hair that’s long um pretty hair she’s always
Thank you I would rather hide it because when I reveal it natural Glory I got enough battles to fight already and uh when I’m going out into White America I’m I’m focused I’m not trying to worry about this hair I’m trying to I will blend in and keep my head down so I
Can make my money and I could get back home to my family I don’t need nobody in my face like oh your hair this and that and stuff don’t touch my hair stripping it of its power um I’m very picky when it come down to whoever going to do my
Hair just because the energy I don’t know what kind of energy you got flowing through you you’re not touching my crown so that’s just my opinion my opinion is you have you have to hide right it’s sacred you got to cover it you gotta hide it no matter if you f
Put on a wig or whatever over it if you gonna put on a turban or if you going to lock it down to its natural state either way you got to wrap it up sometimes hide it sheld it protect it okay so um I guess you answer
Gorgeous question we had a someone named gorgeous has asked a question but I’mma let verita respond to something um but it says for decade our women have shown their natural hair because there were none there because there were none of these other alter Alternatives cover it
Up why so that’s what she’s asking but the question I want to ask verita because you are um you’re a hairdresser correct I’m a loctician a loctician okay so something that Charlie be said was you know to protect it I have to cover it um and I have nothing against
Covering um to be honest with you guys sometime I add a little extension just to make my hair look a little Fuller but I always maintain the texture of my hair I don’t compromise the texture of my hair just so that I don’t send the wrong message to my daughters so basically if
My hair is Curly and I want to make it look a little Fuller I might add a little curly fullness to it but if my hair is um very coarse I wouldn’t add straightened weave to it or a wig over it to cover it because I feel like a
Message is being sent that you know and I may not say it but if like I said if I’m constantly doing it I could be sending the wrong message to my daughter so that’s why I wouldn’t do that but my question to you is because you’re
Hairdresser uh reita is is there a way that a woman can wear her hair year year round take care of it maintain it and be able to not have it damaged or anything like that doing seeing the fact that you’re a hairdresser yes you can take care of
Your hair if you want to take care of your hair I’m sorry I’m a two-y olds in the background one I I have to ask this question do do we consider wearing wigs or wigs as wrong because if we don’t you are able to teach your daughter to love her
Natural hair and also to put on this wig because I don’t feel like combing my hair today okay so if we start from that perspective our answers may be different or how we look at the answers may be different um but as far as wearing hair depending on what you use would
Determine what your hair would do it is so easy for us to go to the hair store and buy things with all kind of sulfate all kind of alcohol half of his water and we put this in our hair and it’s not helping us us um people of African descent whether
You’re mixed or whatever it is we need to go back to using natural things for our hair for instance oils different kinds of oils depending on what type of hair you have will determine what type of oil you need to use also yes covering your hair um I’m sorry guys I have
Locked so any atmosphere I walk through my hair is going to feel to when I wash hair it’s not necessarily dirt it could be just things floating in the air like I said in the beginning we can wear these weaves we can wear our natural
Hair but we need to figure out how to take care of our hair what works for Apple may not work for me what works for you may not work for me and what works for Charlie may not work for Apple so my best advice is to find that person with
The right energy to do your hair and to tell you what to use for your hair so when you do put your wig on your you’re glued down lace front your edges won’t come out you see what I’m saying and another thing about our hair it’s a it’s
It’s a psychological thing when I start locks on women I sit down and have a literal literal sister toister conversation with them Hey sister I’m a to put your hair in a state that you have never seen it before you will not have control of it and you may not even
Know what to do with it will you be able to look in that mirror and say hey I love myself when your hair is this short and stubby and puffy because everybody wants this the length but you have to start within and knowing you love yourself when your hair is this short so
Yes it is very possible to take care your hair no matter what texture you may have get with a professional especially you loose hair sisters get with a professional get you a good regimen and just follow that all right all right all right thank you y heard that baby in the background
Y’all please excuse her oh for it’s okay the link is in the description hit the link you want to come up Sho Church Church online yeah we want to hear from a man it’s women up here talk about their hair and y’all know they don’t
Play by their hair but if you if you brave enough go hit it come on up if you brave enough hit that link come on up um oh they don’t want to be on video If you have a question for a man I’ll type it I
Can come on the Future Okay well type your question in the comment section because you said if you want to hear from you so we do want to hear from you so if you have anything to say just put it in the comment section we’ll put it
On the screen and we’ll let let the ladies answer it um anyone else y’all if y’all want to come on up I see y’all in here y’all active I don’t know why y’all acting so shy like come on now I want to get into I want to let Apple speak real
Quick and then I want to go into the next transition of the show but like I said the link is in the chat y’all hit that link I want to hear from you guys I want to hear what you got to say but we’re going to go into the next level of
This whole hair because somebody said the rabbit hole goes deep it really does we about to go into the next level of this rabbit hole in a minute but before we do I want to let Apple speak so Apple go ahead the floor is yours uh you know
If you want to speak on anything and then we’re going to go to the next level of this and if you guys want to come on up hit that link okay I mean everybody’s pretty much summing it up you know just to the sisters hey enjoy your
Beauty no matter what shape form or fashion enjoy it beauty is everything and hair is a part of beauty all right now I’m GNA go into the next stage all right y’all I’m about to take it there all right about to take it there real quick now for people who don’t know
I’m from the Mia Florida Miami 305 what’s up oh now um like I told you guys earlier I am Mick so I’m Black and I’m white but I mostly gravitate towards my black Heritage because of where I grew up where I went to school I don’t know any
Of my mother’s family I only know of my father’s family so my culture from my food to hairstyles to my clothes to everything is just full within the black community so that’s what I relate to thank y’all for coming up more and Shanti we gonna get to y’all in a second
But I want to show this Rabbit Hole now why am I saying all this tell you why I’m saying all this because there are times where I decide I want to wear some of my African dashiki because I want I want to rep my Heritage it’s my Heritage and I want to
Rep that so I wear my dashiki And when they see my light skin behind walking around with that dashiki I be getting the business I mean I get the rad eyes the Stanky face the who you think and don’t let me go out with my husband don’t let me be with my
Haitian man with my dashiki because then I’m really getting it I I don’t know what they looking at but they’re like uhuh you disrespecting us why are you why are you wearing our stuff but a lot of people don’t know that that is my culture that is my Heritage but they
Don’t understand that because of my complexion in the way that I look so when I do it I do get a lot of bad energy you from that so where I’m going in this rabbit hole is is there a double standard are we telling Caucasian Hispanics mixed race people that we
Don’t like you wearing our hairstyles our hair period our installs we don’t like that but then turning around and hypocritically then putting on we could say whatever we want to say European hair that’s what it is when you put on that straight hair I’m not saying black folks don’t have
It’s some think about black hair is it comes in many textures y’all know that it got the curly the the wavy the CR it got all kind of textures so please don’t come on here and say oh well black people got uh straight wavy hair too I’m
Not saying they don’t but let’s be realistic the majority of black folks got cranky hair that’s just what it is but we do have some different textures so what I’m basically trying to say is is there a double standard look what this says the white girl is wearing
Braids in her hair the sister says my culture is not your hairstyle so don’t wear my culture don’t put no locks in your hair white girl don’t put on no dashiki mix girl don’t walk around speaking like that CU you want to be so black don’t do that but then turn
Around and put on a blonde and blueeye contacts whole situation is there is this a hypocritical stance that we might be actually practicing and I want to go to let’s go to Charlie beats uh but try to make it brief I’m G give all y’all chance talk because we got people up
That want to speak so try to make it brief but I want to hear from you about this rabbit hole is there a double standard in the black community among women and I say women because I’ve never experienced this from men ever it’s never I’ve never had a a black man make
Me feel like you can’t wear that or you can’t do that but from sisters I love my sisters but they be getting me I be getting a hard time man I don’t know if I need to go get a tan or something they be giving me a little bit of hard time
When I want to wear my dashikis okay oh so what do you think about that um Char um okay so my opinion is that it’s to for me it’s not a double standard because hear me out for one black women when we put our hair like this even if
We do blonde hair blueee context or whatever we still black women we still talk black we still act black we still us and when white women do it and they put their hair like us they do the accent they get in character that’s when you’re culture appropriating you know what I’m saying I
Have a mixed granddaughter she black her mama fully white she like to get her hair platted up whenever she used to ask can you plat my hair up for me I would plat her hair up for her you know why cuz when I plat her hair up she didn’t start talking
Like me she didn’t start trying to act like me she still talk the same she was still herself you know what I’m saying I don’t mind if you want to PL your hair down I don’t mind if you want to braid your hair like us my problem comes with
Don’t try and talk like me don’t try and act like me don’t try because now you you making seem like I’m a show Pony or something like we characters this is who we are this is our culture uh africanamerican vular English is real it’s a real English you know what I’m
Saying vocabulary language we have our own language your language is your language I’m not trying to talk like you I don’t get my hair like this and then go to um like you know not offend nobody but that’s how I feel I don’t feel like it’s a double standard because we’re not
Trying to appropriate their culture you know what I’m saying when they do it and not all of them but some of them when they do it and they do I don’t care if you got a black man you are still a white woman you should stay in your
Element if you want to braid your hair down that’s fine because you might have black kids and mixed kids so you want to let them feel comfortable seeing you know what I’m saying that you are you love their culture and this and that just don’t do too much for you Christina
I you black baby I’m sorry girl I know I know girl you but at the same time what you going through I know my granddaughter is going to go through it you know what I’m saying because gonna look at her and not know that this girl was brought up with her black
Family and she is black you know what I’m saying she’s a black girl they gonna look at her fair skin and her hair texture and automatically assume like you can’t get in on this topic because and sorry as black girls we still battle within each other to wrap it up about
Who got the lighter skin you need to be quiet because yo you you bright skinned and this and that I get told that all the time girl you bright skin and I say where I look like you all right oh no let me get the apple apple
Real quick so uh make sure y’all mute y’ mic when y’all not talking so we don’t have Echo thank you thank you so Apple how do you feel like that do you agree with Charlie that I’m I’m fine with white girls wearing a hairstyle just don’t pretend to be like
Us or what’s your position on white people wearing black hairy do you think they’re hypocritical I agree with Charlie I mean it it’s you know depends um how you wear it but I don’t think it’s a double standard I just agree what Charlie says so you you don’t think it’s a double
Standard if a if a black woman gives a white girl a hard time for wearing black girl hairstyle while wearing a white girl hairstyle all right soita what’s your listen y’all listen One what does it mean to act black okay I’ve been told all my life that I talk like a white
Girl so let’s be careful when we say what it means to at black acting black doesn’t mean hey girl what you doing that’s not necessarily acting black that is acting like a certain culture in a certain place if I’m white and I grew up in South Central
LA it’s a good chance that I’m not gonna talk like Becky down the road I’m gonna talk like shaana because that’s what I’ve been on my life okay now as far as the double standard with the hairstyles we just out of everybody taking our stuff that’s really it cuz
Really Caucasian darling if you keep breiding your hair like that tightly your hair is going to be on the floor your hair is not meant to even withstand the stress that it takes to keep a braid in over a week let’s say that first um but there is a double standard but once
Again we have to be careful with what we say because some people at like where they come from not what they see on TV so if I see a Caucasian lady with some braids honey I know they hurt you and I know you cried when you got them
God bless you and I hope your hair stays in the follicle but then again my sister with your platinum blonde hair baby you wear that like Mary J bles that’s what you want to do so we just have to be careful what we call perpetrating all right you heard all
Right thank you Bita let’s get to Shanti what’s up Shanti you’ve been on here before girl what’s up what is up the floor is yours girl go ahead you can speak about whatever we talked about tonight or what we’re currently on now the floor is yours talk about
Good I’m showing my age right there that song was from a movie school days so it was talking about good and bad hair it had the it had the the foundations of it being the the the sororities and the fraternities was going up against each other right they had these fraternities
Who mainly had lightskinn brothers and then they had you know the other fraternities that had dark skinn Brothers same with the sororities they had the sororities with the the dark skinn sisters and they had the sorority with the lightskinned sisters you know what I mean they called the they called
The dark skinned sisters the jiggle Boos and they called The lightskinned Sisters the wab Beast it just this just reminds me of that I just had to throw that out there but I’m I’m good sis what’s up before I continue thank you thank you thank you do you have any questions for
Anyone on the panel and then we you know I I I I just want to say this I don’t really have any questions because I’m loving the conversation it’s it’s well rounded you you have people for you have people against you have people who are neutral and and it’s just
Good to get perspectives from all ends of the spectrum and and in between and I’m I’m really digging this conversation what I will say is this this is interesting that you brought this up and um you know I I went from a I went me as
A person I got my first perm when I was in the third grade yeah got my first perm relaxer when I was in the third grade I did not ask for at all and then like at the age of 30 to like when I started having a transition in my life
That’s when I started and decided to go natural right so I I just want to tell the women on the panel you guys are doing a good fabulous job with bringing all in of the spectrum and to all the women out there you know what whatever whatever
You do with your hair just make sure it comes from from from deep within you know make make sure it’s actually you being you so thank thank you for this conversation thank y’all for y contri contributions every last one of y’all this is good I’m I’m just I just came up
Here to say that I don’t got no questions a thank you thank you for the love oh for sure thank you for the love I’m go back on mute and I I’ll get off because all right listen sorry right sorry sorry thank you all right all
Right we got Ariel here but Ariel give me a second because I want to hear from Ariel because he’s a man so like I really want to hear from him but I can’t skip I can’t skip all right because he’s a man so Ariel you stay right there okay
Because I really want to hear from you but I can’t skip so Miss Moore the floor is yours you have a uh you can ask a question or you can give a comment um to anyone on the panel go ahead the floor is yours um I just came in and join so
Um as y’all can see I’m like team perm.com like because hair is super thick like real like thick we can’t hear you okay my natural my my hair without a perm is like real big and I break Combs I break the afro Combs so I got to perm
My hair to manage my hair you know it it’s for me like my own personal so I feel like and then if I’m not wearing hello can y’all hear me yeah you’re back again okay so if I’m not I let my natural hair like
I would say out of a month I’m G to show my natural hair um I and then um I put some weave in soak some hair in and then the natural hair take it out let my hair breathe or whatever because my hair break also from
The weather like you know I’m from Miami Florida but when I moved up here to Georgia it’s like it breaks from this weather for some reason like every time I’m combing or whatever it’s like the ends and whatever and then I treat my hair and everything so just the weather
Can do that to your hair so um I feel like you got to wear what you want to wear like if you want to sew in some hair put some braids in whatever do it if you want to lock your hair go do it like you know I don’t feel like it’s
Double standard or you know because then you have um whites or whatever they wear weed too you know they putting some extensions in their head or whatever also so I feel like you just got to wear what you want to wear like it’s it don’t matter what you like SE SE
In breaking in extending whatever like do it it’s up to you but I got a question for you so uh Berita said something and this questions for you miss Mo uh we’ll try to keep it brief because I do want to get to um aanisha
And I want to get to Ariel so uh verita said it if white girls start wearing certain black hairstyles it’s bad for their hair and I know this to be a fact because of my texture of hair is really soft and I like to put crocheting sometimes I’m guilty of that I ain’t
Going to lie cuz dayon care this hair people think it’s good hair I it’s it’s hard to maintain just like you said your hair is hard to maintain this hair is hard to maintain as well but I think and this is me you tell me if I’m wrong I
Think we just don’t know how to take care of it that’s what I think I think we just don’t know because I cannot accept this is me I cannot accept what a temperature and this and that black women hair the it’s the best when is in temperature like Florida the heat the
Human you just I think we just don’t know how to take care of it and because we’ve been permanent in the third grade fourth grade and putting all them chemicals in it now we have distorted the hair that God has gave us that Crown so my question to you is could it be
Possible that you just do not know how to take care of it and that’s why you have to resort to doing what you’re doing because it’s more manageable um no because I take care of my hair very well um my hair very healthy and everything but and before
Getting a perm like I said was super thick even after a perm when I when I do a perm or whatever my hair still big so I got to take the time and and flat IR or whatever so I do whatever like you know work for me but I feel like weather
Can damage your hair you know I think it can but I think if you do things to protect like for example you got to do and then you got to do black girl got to I’m sorry but it’s protect prove style like that’s the thing you know what I’m
Saying you we let our hair show and then you were a protective style you know um sewing braiding your hair down and then if you want to sew it down or if you want to get some braids that’s a protect a protective style for your hair so I
Feel like that is a thing it’s not just like oh well you not taking care of your hair no no no I’m not saying let me let me correct I’m not saying putting your hair in protective style braiding your hair down locking it up that’s fine but when you start putting
Chemicals if anyone knows anything about perms there’s a big lawsuit going on billions of dollars of women who have gotten cancer who cannot ovulate who have weren’t able to get pregnant who have died they have the bone in the skull where they see how the chemicals have corroded into their brain due to
Perms so I’m not talking about putting your hair in a protective Style putting some braid yeah with chemicals yeah the wigs and the putting the wigs on covering it uh 11 months out of the year and only letting it breathe for four weeks like that’s what I’m talking about
Yeah so with the what I said with the perms and stuff I’m I’m sorry I yeah they got that but everything we eating today drinking whatever they say cancer you know what I’m saying everything we do today is cancer cancer cancer whatever so at some point at the end of
The story moral of the story we all gonna die we all gonna die sometime but with the perm with the um with doing your hair and stuff like you got to do what works for you you know that’s just how I feel you got to do it works for
You and if you put the chemicals in your hair can be damaged if you’re not taking care of it I do hair so you know my hair good but the next person who go get a perm and stuff if they not putting you know getting the treatments or whatever
Or um properly taking care of their hair then yes you know they could be damaging their hair hair falling out like crazy or you know lead to whatever else you know so yeah I respect that and I appreciate the conversation thank you for coming on girl you’re welcome have a
Good one like to keep it real I like to talk to people and it’s all love thank you for coming on I appreciate the support if you share this and like this it it’ll be really good for us and thank you thank you thank you sis I really
Appreciate you being here you’re welcome all right have a good one y’all to all right what’s up girl what’s up it’s you girl and then we get the AR arel you stay right there okay CU you a man I’m trying to keep you on goad I mean I’ve been doing hair since I
Was 13 years old I started braiding U me and my sister we were braid plat all of that and we’ve done so many different people’s hair from many different backgrounds so as far as cultureal appropriation it used to be like hey if you got those dollars
I don’t care what you look like as long as you pay you know but um I don’t believe in necessarily you know even going deep into the whole appropriation thing I feel like personally if you want to get braids I don’t care who you are that’s
What you want to do you’re gonna do it anyway um so you know do your thing and but you know wherever you get the style from hey you can always give credit don’t say or a certain type of culture created this type of style you know what
I mean uh other than that I think you know get get whatever you want to do if you want to talk like Chen after I put these braids in listen that’s your that’s you that’s what you want to do um so you can’t stop people from behaving
Or acting a certain way you know no matter what you say you know they going to do what they feel like doing uh as far as perms and everything man I stopped getting perms in high school um like towards the end of my high school because of the uh the whole cancer scare
And figuring out that you know some of that stuff runs in my family and fibrosis you know um CIS fibrosis um sis I started having issues with that as well and I didn’t know if it was coming from a perm or not but um ever since I
Sto perming my hair you know it has kind of excited can you show us CU you were on camera a while ago can you show us your hair because it’s so pretty I want people to see it oh yeah I actually just took out some locks I had some locks for
About um almost what eight months or something like that I did them in like February and um I the reason why I took them out I didn’t really like the parts and some were you know smaller than others so I said you know I might start
My lock Journey over again but you know I did it myself myself of course and I got lazy I ain’t gonna lie while I was doing it and I didn’t do I I totally understand no I gotta uh like sister said up there I gotta go to a professional locktician you you
Heard fish okay yeah I gotta go to a professional for that I can plat my own hair good no problem but as far as the locks is concerned they was all different but yeah I stopped getting perms um for that scare because it actually started to affect me
Um and I’ve been natural ever since pretty much and then when I I started um what I had my baby uh what after I graduated college and the first thing I said to myself was I’m going to stop even straightening my hair because I knew um
Kids look up to what you do so if your hair straightened guess what Mommy I want my hair straightened too you know whatever you U pretty much whatever a mother does the kids usually follow and I had that scare I’m like I don’t want my baby to feel like she
Needs to perm her hair or straighten her hair so I just said you know what I did a big chop um 2015 and she was about six months I said I’mma do a big chop and I’mma just go natural because I want her to understand that um you don’t have to
Have your hair straight her hair is beautiful too she had beautiful last thing I wanted for my child to come up to tell me is that I want a perm because that’s what I used to tell my mom when I turned about seven I seen my mom had straight hair she had perm
Pressed out and I was seven years old and I got tired of being burnt with hot comb anyway but exactly that’s what I want a per yeah because my hair if you see how thick it is now it was so thick my mom couldn’t even comb my hair she
Couldn’t even put a a you heard what the other girl said she said she break she break Combs and Charlie said she had she couldn’t leave a house without getting it um pressed and and hot comb and everything like that so it is a a cultural them starting back from when
You’re just a little girl and then we kind of just follow it along as we go but I want to get to Ariel uh real quick but thank you thank you thank you for coming on we appreciate it thank you for showing your pretty hair always like to
See pretty hair thank you thank you thank you y’all all have beautiful hair thank you thank you thank you but let’s get to Ariel Ariel it’s yours we got the man in with the plan what’s up peace can you hear me you sound great awesome well first and foremost I
Want to uh shout outs to all the ladies on the panel and shout outs to Sister Christina for putting it together I’m happy to see you back doing your thing with the uh episodes and all of that and the conversation because the conversations are definitely important important and I believe they are
Definitely beneficial so shout outs to you for putting that together and I came in on the part where y’all was talking about a double standard right and how if a black woman puts the white or the blonde hair in her hair and then she has a problem with the
White girl putting braids in her hair I do believe on an individual basis right this is hard to put on like community standards because it’s just so much nuance and there’s just so many angles we can go for it it’s it’s just hard to say this whole thing
Belongs to this whole Community or this whole this double standard belongs to that Community but on an individual basis right if you are a black woman and you want to put blond straight hair in your hair and then you have a problem with the white girl getting her hair
Braided that is definitely a double standard and that’s definitely hypocritical because humans are influenced by their environment and the people in their environment humans are influenced by the culture the hair the clothes the food whatever environment you grow up in that’s what you’re going to be influenced by and we got so much
Programming so much entertainment so much influences in our daily life like you go to the gas station there’s TVs at the gas station now there’s TVs in know everybody house everybody got a cell phone so people are going to be influenced by different things and they’re going to like different things
Like I’m not culturally appropriating the Asian Culture by liking karate I’m not culturally appropriating white people when I say I like baseball and I play baseball right so it’s it’s very important that we Define these terms because we won’t be on the same page and we’ll just be talking around each other
And we won’t be addressing each other’s points and in order to bring you know a good understanding in order to bring proper edification we got to be on the same page and we got to uh clearly Define and outline what we mean by these phrases and these terms that we use and
Again it’s hypocritical if you’re a black woman and you got straight blonde hair and then you’re mad at the white girl who has braids in her hair that will be very hypocritical because that’s not your hair and that’s not her hairstyle but y’all are both doing the
Same thing y’all are just being in influenced by the your surrounding environment so it would be cultural appropriation if the white girl is trying to make money off of her hairstyle and her uh behavior from the black community and she is acting as if she created it and
Then she’s acting out a lifestyle that she seen on TV and she’s trying to make money from that specific community that would be C cultural appropriation when you take something from another culture right and you try to claim it as your own and you have to be you have to want
To make money from it you have to want to get some type of status from it you have to want to get some type of gain from it in order for it to be cultural appropriation but if it’s just I like how black people rap I’m a white man and
I just want to rap that’s not cultural appropriation that’s just him liking the culture him liking the music him liking the way we create our music our entertainment so I just wanted to uh come in and try to bring that understanding when it comes to what is a
Double standard and what is not a double standard when it comes to hair specifically again sisters if you want to put Blondie in here R in here blue in here you know if you’re not trying to claim it as your own then you’re not cultural appropriating my white sisters
If you want to wear braids if you want to put your daiki on right and you just appreciate the culture and the people that’s not a double standard that’s not being a hypocrite you just like what you are influenced by so hopefully that brings a little bit of understanding and
Uh thank you again for allowing me to speak I didn’t want to be long-winded but I’m I’m here to if you want to ask me any questions as well uh because I know you said I’m the only guy in the panel so far I got a couple more minutes
So if you want want to ask question for sure thank you for what you just said it was a really good breakdown and we got a few more minutes we’re going to wrap it up but I wanted to ask you a question uh for your personal take how do you feel
About women wearing the wigs and the weaves and the perms and even take it a little further getting the fake butt getting the fake lashes like lashes is a big thing right now wearing the baked lashes like what is your position on whether or not you’re you personally are
You attracted to that or do you just feel like whatever I don’t care I wouldn’t mind if my wife does that doesn’t do it like how do you feel about that good question and I am 100% oh natural all praise to the most high May
The most high be right and all men be wrong if the most high blessed you with that body type be uh appreciative of that body type you don’t need no enhancements you don’t need no breast surgery you don’t need no bbls you don’t need no orange hair you don’t need no
Red hair you don’t need no chemicals you don’t need none of that the most high blessed you with everything that you need to be great the most high blessed you with everything that you need to be beautiful the most high blessed you everything that you need to be creative
To be unique to be your own God-fearing woman right so I am 100% old natural I love when the women especially in 2023 because now it’s a sign of like Rebellion now it’s a sign of like major confidence now it’s a sign like you standing with righteousness when you
Like I’m not putting chemicals in my hair just because y’all want me to put chemicals in my hair I’m not putting red in my hair just because society says this is beautiful because the industry the beauty industry says this is what’s in fashion this is what’s in season no
I’m 100% behind my sisters who want to be 100% natural right who want to wear their hair want to chop it off get the chemicals Out start from scratch I support you I support the head wrap all of that and I will also want to say
That I am not like opposed or anti the women who do use the chemicals right I’m not gonna shame you or disrespect you or hate you but I am G to disagree with you I am gonna tell you I I don’t prefer it I am G to tell you if that’s what you
Want to do then I mean by all means do what the most high put on your heart but me my position is 100% natural I think that’s the most beautiful thing I think that when the Most High created us he created us all bright he created us it’s
All perfect mean so do what you can with you know your hair I get haircut right so if you get haircut I ain’t gonna be like oh you can’t get no haircut like I ain’t gonna be a hypocrite or not like that but I definitely uh believe that
Natural is 100% the best and yes it’s a probably a little bit more work ladies but I believe you can do it and I believe you got the energy I believe you got the time I believe you can make the time to do your natural hair to make it
Look beautiful and all that so that’s where I stand on that than sorry for being longwinded too share share the people share the people um where they can reach out to you because I I see the sisters and the people in the comment was definitely agreeing if people want
To just get to know you a little better where can they find you awesome thank you and yeah you could catch me on Instagram YouTube under Ariel inspired that’s a r i e l inspires i ns p i r s that’s Instagram and YouTube under RL inspires Facebook you can catch me under
Ariel Wagner I believe because Facebook won’t let me put my last name as inspires so I use my my government last name so Ariel Wagner on Facebook but I do most of my uh content and stuff on YouTube and Instagram so arel inspires on YouTube and Instagram thank you for
Allowing me to to speak tonight no problem thank you again arel for coming he’s a big supporter as well we appreciate the love um last one we’re going to get to Morin real quick and then we’re going to give everyone on the panel two minutes to give your final
Statements and let the people know where they can reach you so the floor is yours uh good evening everybody um so my standpoint on everything is just that when it comes down to the hypocrite part um I do feel like there are some women that are being Hypocrites you know putting perms in
Your hair and then going and you know a white woman putting braids in her hair and basically saying you know that she shouldn’t do it um I do feel like some black women get offended when white women do it and it’s being done in a manner that they feel like it shouldn’t
Be but sometimes I feel like white women are doing it to put a mirror up to how they feel we we Act um which is not a good thing I do feel like it comes down to education with the uh perms you know starting perms early
And not explaining you know why or what it can do to your child’s hair or explaining to them what their natural state is supposed to look like or even waiting until they’re the age that they can understand what they’re putting in their hair and letting them make that
Decision when they are age appropriate um and teaching them you know this is what your natural hair is supposed to look like this is what this is how you’re supposed to do it this is what you need to do and teaching them the right ways at a young age is definitely
A problem in our culture that we don’t explain at a young age how to do it and so they’re automatically going to this well this will make it easier in this generation everything is about making it easier and making the day-to-day life easier but sometimes easier is not
Better and so I feel like we should just really be educating our young women you know at an early age and telling them that their black is beautiful at a young age their natural state is beautiful and you don’t have to put that chemical you don’t have to do anything to make it
Better it is already better all right do you have any qu than first and foremost thank you for coming on thank you for being super duper patient I love the way you speak you’re very clear to the point precise and I appreciate you do you have
Any questions for anyone on the panel um no I just love this conversation love what you know what you guys are doing I love what I heard um it’s definitely something that needs to be brought to attention um in in our community I feel like it’s a lot of ignorance behind some
Of the stuff you know that a lot of people are thinking um and I think having these hard conversations in our community is where it starts so thank you thank you we appreciate you coming on I hope you come back make sure you subscribe you like come on back we’re
Going to try to be here every Thursday from now on anybody got any particular topics they want us to talk about or any guests on here that you enjoyed and you want them to come back because this is Charlie beat second time and people always seem to like her uh very good
Speaker um she knows how to explain herself very well so um people love when she comes on you know reita and apple is new so if you guys want to bring them back definitely let me know and we’ll bring them back so now what I want to do
Is I want to close out the show I want to do two minutes two minutes ladies we’ll go with um Apple first you’re gonna get two minutes to basically give your last points on how you feel about the question do black women love their hair any advice you want to give and if
They people want to reach you where they can reach You so I just want to say Ladies Grace natural beauty remember that no matter youly kind Rob the sound went away so I think you could to speak now this what we do work on that we’ll come back all right Charlie be you got two minutes let people know where to reach you and final statement on how you feel about your position on this topic and
Any advice you want to give uh can y’all hear me is it clear sound per but a little low but okay so um like I said I am Charlie B you can follow me on Instagram you can follow me on Facebook I’m active on Twitter and all the other sites too
Um check out my music because I am pretty dope not to to my own horn but when God give you a blessing and he gave me a blessing of a talents and I use my talent So yeah thank you and so um to close out the topic how I feel not to be
Long winded is that I appreciate all of you ladies and all of you ladies are so beautiful and I love that we had different every different element we had Christina with her curls Bita with her locks me with my we and uh apple with
Her turbine and I love it I think we did a great job explaining how each one of us felt and I love the gentleman that came on and everything he had to say uh don’t go there with the daiki I’m sorry not you Christina but white people you don’t put on no
Daiki please one person may say it’s okay the next person may hit you in the mouth so don’t even set yourself up for failure not me I don’t promote violence but this is that’s this happen it happens the world is crazy so don’t put yourself in a
Predicament you know what I’m saying but I love that people do love our culture and and they do want to be a part of it and experience it and I am okay with that and open to that and I think everybody that came on said everything
Exellent if you want to wear your weave wear your weave wear your perms do what suits you everybody ain’t got the energy cuz I don’t everybody ain’t got the time in the day cuz I don’t so I’mma throw this wig on whenever it suits me and we
GNA call it a DAT and I’m going go get to the money whatever whatever else is more important than me worried about sitting in this mirror trying to te this hair so love you guys thank you so much Chris for having me back a no thank you
For coming back and I’m bringing you back again okay so just any he’s coming back and whenever you want to bring some of your music to featur here we’ll definitely we don’t mind playing this so you definitely just H me up with that thank you here appreciate you now let’s
Go okay first thank you Christina even having me I’m broken in now shout out to my people that were in the comments um when it comes to this topic at the end of the day ladies learn how to love yourself whether you have on your 24 in bust down whether you have
Your locks whether your hairs wrapped up whether you’re kinky quy or whether you’re soft and fluffy love yourself for who you are honey and when you step out step out with that confidence as far as me um as I told y’all before I am a loctician if you’re ever in Northeast
Mississippi just hit me up um J life is where it’s at it’s not just me doing your hair it’s energy it’s an experience it’s everything you can find me on Facebook Jif LLC that’s j a t a l y l e also you can find me on Tik Tok also at
J a t a l YF e once again thank you so much for having me and I hope it’s not my last time time all right all right no girl I liked you I enjoyed you you did good and it’s crazy y’all I’mma put you out there girl she was like you know
This my first time this my first I do that girl yes I am I pull you out she like girl this my first time don’t be just so me out I don’t want to go first let somebody else go but girl you out here just doing your thing you need to
Stop it okay I ain’t listening to you no more okay because you did Perfect all right I don’t know what you was talking about but thank you again for being here I don’t see apple she sent me a message saying that she had to reboot so we G
Close this thing out you guys I feel sad because I wanted her to you know give her final statement hopefully she’ll be back on and we’ll do that again thank you Apple thank you Vita thank you Charlie beats man you guys don’t understand I can’t do it without you
Guys I appreciate it if y’all can please share this with your friends your let them know that you were here at Let’s Talk podcast and again if there’s any anything that you guys want to add let us know and we gonna talk about it hopefully we’ll be back next Thursday
Till then you guys take care till the next time w
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