Depending on how you drive and your car’s condition you can get incredible mileage from the Goodyear custom wide Trad polyglass Tire I’ve got 32,000 Mi on my tires I’ve got 41,000 Mi on my polyglass but polyglass means more than mileage when your wife has to drive alone When a woman’s at the wheel polyglass means more than mileage That one’s funny like they made that just for our show we like to goof on the ladies driving Patrick we’re gonna get comments again could have been worse they could have been a Korean lady in that commercial listen to me every time we start the show up with like a joke on
Women drivers we get a 100 comments from like usually the older ladies get very upset and offended by our videos but it is what it is so oh man dude it’s been so long since we did this man a couple shows off from I was I went from um uh
We did that show after Christmas and I was so sick for like 10 days I couldn’t get out of bed so we took a week off and then uh this is our first show back man we got a we got a fun week ahead of us I
I I’m really excited to do the show with Patrick because we’ve been like going back and forth about narratives for for a while now I’m finally glad we’re uh get Patrick how you been brother I’m doing great Anthony happy New Year you too Rob yeah you as well man can I can I
Press pause on the commercial that you you started with and I’ll give you one for your next show do you you you might not be old enough to remember High karate the men’s cologne I do okay so the commercial uh campaign was a guy in the morning in the mirror with his High
Karate and he looks carefully out the door between his door at the front and his car and he tries to make it to his car but he can’t make it there because women in from his neighborhood wearing bath robes attack him because he’s so irresistible and he High karates them he
Martial arts them to the grass so he can get to his car they had there’s a folders commercial from back in the day where the husband the wife makes them coffee and the guy’s like your coffee is disgusting the girls in the office make coffee better than you and he’s just
It’s just like this battered spouse this battered wife and you would never get away with that commercial now it’s really amazing how much our culture is because you you you don’t realize how much we self censor now because of the the the you know political correctness yeah now that narrative slipped all
Husbands are the target of all commercials yeah yeah I when was the last time you saw I mean I know it’s it’s pretty cliche to say but when was the last time you saw like a non- idiot husband in a commercial right like he’s always the idiot the wife is always This
Brilliant person keeping the house together while the husband’s just some dope or or it’s usually you know a black guy or it’s just never you’ll never see a white guy be the you know the the man of the house where he’s actually holding things down at all he’s always got to be
A daughtering idiot not permitted yeah it’s true yeah yeah it’s crazy how far we’ve come all right before we get going I always forget to do this but we do have an Instagram account that we post Clips to guys at least until they kick
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Paid supporters only yeah so if uh if if you guys are feeling uh generous please go sub subscribe on locals give us a little report um all right so we wanted to talk we had a few topics tonight so I actually wrote a list um we have Hawaii
The Hawaii FS JFK 911 the USS Liberty the moonlanding and the 2020 election like these are all topics that are for like verboten you’re not allowed to speak about online but one of them I think we could start with 911 a little bit without getting in too much trouble
Like I I watched this documentary on New York I’ve been watching it it’s like a 10 episode documentary they’re two hours per episode and what I’ve noticed like Rob told me when I’m watching it he’s like don’t take everything they say for you know don’t don’t take it a face
Value but what I’m what I’m really seeing through this documentary is from its Inception New York was basically set up as um basically an OD to uh what is it Mammon like it was always this capitalistic owed to money where it was just everything was about money even from its
Inception from The First Time The Dutch came over so what you see throughout New York is even when they build Grand Central Station they put like all the Greek gods in there like none of it is being set up as Christendom it’s like the Statue of Liberty is the goddess of
Liberty so as you’re going through it it’s almost like you see this this Idol of money in New York being set up and then when the towers come down it almost seemed like an omen to me of a culture that is going to collapse like God was
Just sending an omen taking down our the Trade Center this Idol we built too money so the so the Trade Center especially being a New Yorker was always like an impactful thing but it seemed like it was more significant than it actually was and no it’s not the national Trade
Center is it no what the world the World Trade Center so going all right so now before because I was trying to think when this when it happened where like go coming up living in New York going through 2001 I mean it was it you I remember those days like it
There was if you weren’t old enough to remember what actually happened during that time there was this Spirit of unity that came over the whole country like I remember sitting in traffic and you would be like no no no you go you go like everybody just came together it was
This this this unified time in the country But as time goes on you see that starts to fade and you also start realizing that they’re giving us a narrative and they want us to believe a certain thing happened and it wasn’t until Trump comes along and I see the
Way that they handle the Trump situation that my my belief in the narratives that we get from our government starts to crack so I Patrick were were you like a a neocon before Trump uh good question I don’t know how to categorize myself uh recovering Canadian hits a lot of the uh
Metrics I was a raised rebelled returned Catholic I was um away from the faith after having a genuine religious conversion to Christ at age at age 16 I was on a weekend retreat yeah m i remember writing a letter to myself as part of this Retreat I still had the
Letter it was uh dated November 4th which is is providentially the same day that I quit drinking November 4th 2019 years later um I went to the local Catholic University where a lot of my professors were ex-nuns ex priests so I got four years of Hardcore pretty hard-left Theology of descent you know
Grab your grab your sincere conscience and slide what could go wrong um Vatican 2 is Holy RIT uh the the main criteria for moral decision- making was how you felt and so after four years I was effectively an AGN IC and after some years of drifting and making terrible stupid mistakes and suffering
From Moder to severe anxiety and damic depression I really said my first prayer as an adult and it wasn’t because I was smart it was because I was in really bad shape and um in a an abyss I didn’t see any way out of so for the first time I
Was able to look up or I was kind of forced to look up and what brought me back was a two- punch I don’t even know how I came across it but I read the text of humanite 31 paragraphs long and I discovered the writings and Legacy of uh
Servant of God well almost blessed venerable Fulton J Sheen so Sheen’s writings and humanite were the things that that brought me back to the one Holy Catholic apos and Apostolic Church by God’s grace never drifted from there I went to Franciscan University of Stubenville I did a year in a
Pre-seminary program I taught the faith at the high school level so I I’ve kind of been Allin for Catholic Orthodoxy since then was your was your first book The contraception deception it was previously titled sexon natural the contraception deception was enlarged and expanded after Obamacare came in in
2015 is and I also add a chapter or I should say I I gave the whole text a redo in light of obera phel hajes and the um the shift for the definition of of marriage because you can draw you can draw a curved line between the rejection
Of humanite in 1968 and the 2015 decision to redefine marriage I’m just surprised it took so long yeah so okay so you because you’re Canadian did you ever even pay attention to American politics all the time yeah Canadians um I’m an American citizen Now by choice so
I’m technically dual citizen I uh you know did the Pledge and filled the papers and went through the interview without a mask I remember having an argument with an armed uis guard saying I’m I’m not I didn’t I’m not becoming American because I want to impede my
Breathing yeah and if you push back the whole thing was a paper tiger so I never after after the spring of 2020 I never wore a mask I just intuitively knew that the mask was a was a proxy dress rehearsal for for vax compliance but yeah Canadians have a national identity
And it’s that we know we’re not Americans so Canadians uh we say that we love the BBC and we’re all Cosmopolitan and world news but really most Canadian news consumption is America based or or the stories that are are of interest to Canadians tend to begin in the US yeah
Okay so for me like Trump starts to shatter my worldview now you I remember watching your show during during the covid thing like I remember I was watching almost every episode you were interviewing some of the most interesting people like your show actually was like a beacon for me like I
I could it was so great like just going and listening to all these different perspec like you from the beginning were somebody who was just like this is nonsense I remember you got your YouTube channel taken away because you were just like I don’t care I’m saying whatever’s
On my mind so like you never even tried to play uh code word anything you just said what you said and and you wind up losing your channel and then you switched over to rumble I was watching your show on Rumble but was it before covid that you start questioning things
Or is it during that that you start because you interviewed some unique people during that thing man you were not just interviewing Catholics like you were all over the board talking to different you interviewed Jordan Peterson years back you interviewed Gavin McKinnis I mean the list of people
You interviewed is really expansive uh Anthony like you I think the the the rise and the election in 16 of President Trump was a was a disruptor of narratives uh he seemed to at the time to be the Crowbar that both parties needed and uh Mr Trump’s not necessarily
The guy you want dating your daughter but he does have this this binary good evil right wrong thing about him that uh really got my attention as someone who really did not care about human opinion he just doubled and tripled down sometimes to his folly um I don’t think
I mean this is not a show about the merits and demerits of President Trump but uh sometimes you have to say either stay silent or or recognize that you made a misstep like for instance he still calls himself the father of operation warp speed that does not
Compete with me but back to 16 he was this stick of dynamite that uh I found inspiring it actually made me a better Catholic to watch this guy operate you don’t have to agree with every one of his policies and on all of his decisions
To see that this is a guy who is not that interested what in what people think about him and the bad things that are said and I think followers of Jesus Christ have got to get away from following uh mimesis NIS code word uh
Well it’s a it’s I I believe coined in a specific meaning by Renee Gerard if we talked about mimesis I think we talk about mimic desire yeah desire same thing yeah so we’re made to love what LS love and hate what they hate we love Gossip we love scapegoating we love
Making people uh the brunt of uh our problems we project onto them and the ultimate example of projecting our problems onto someone else is the killing of Christ the King outside the city walls on Calvary that was the he’s the ultimate scapegoat the Lamb of God
That takes away the sins of the world so um I thought that Trump’s example of of standing for something and not backing down was very inspiring as a disciple he’s a weird guy because yeah he doesn’t care what people think but he’s also such a narcissist he’s just he’s a weird dude
Like I I I I don’t know man and especially like he’s he seems like kind of like a shadow of his from 16 I mean you’re talking it’s eight years time has gone by since the 2015 campaign right was a beast in that campaign then 2020
Like I don’t know man the way he handled all the stuff with the pandemic was just atrocious but in hindsight it’s atrocious like at the time maybe you could you know he’s trying to win an election I could forgive some of it and stuff but now I don’t I don’t know man I
I kind of just I just don’t care about politics whatsoever anymore yeah and I I’m ju I’m just I’m at a point where I just don’t see any I don’t see any hope in restoring anything in this country anymore until like to me it’s almost like the whole thing’s got to come down
And be rebuilt or something the same I feel the same way about the church the church like unless there’s a death there can’t be a resurrection like we need I don’t know like the whole thing just has to come down and be rebuilt because man has made such a mess of God’s church
That God has to it’s going to take divine intervention to re repair some of this stuff yeah I think Americans of a certain Conservative Christian bent uh have a working presupposition about America that America somehow conceived uh you know conceived without original sin and is preserved from sin Som yeah
City on the hill exactly right it’s always morning um which is kind of a Stepford Wives faux picture of what America is which is a masonic deist quasi Protestant uh invention it borrows a lot from Catholic theology the founders and the framers uh borrow from Thomas aquinus and other Catholic thinkers
But it contains within itself the seeds of its own eventual destruction here’s a country that it begins uh in war as a republic and then becomes an Empire and now it’s just an oligarchy you have to think about you got to think about how Christendom spreads where you go and you spread the
Gospel right like we’re spreading the gospel go and baptize All Nations then America gets created and what does America do they start spreading democracy it’s this new gospel that they’re spreading it’s democracy everywhere let’s just bring democracy over there bring democracy to the Middle East I bring democracy all over the
Place and everywhere they bring it it just falls apart it’s not there’s nothing uh christocentric about it there’s nothing uh we’ve never had a unified form of worship as a country where when you have Catholic countries you had a unified cultist where the whole country even if you had different
Because multiculturalism could work if you have if it’s all Catholic like I don’t worry so much about uh Mexican immigrants coming into our country I worry about uh Muslim immigrants coming into our country because it’s a totally different culture with a totally different form of worship with a
Different God essentially so if you have you if you really understand Catholicism as universal where you can have inter inter marriage between cultures if they have the same cultist you never had that in America all these different Protestant denominations have a different way of worship they clash with
Each other there’s never a way to unify this country like you had in Catholic countries before I mean the Holy Roman Empire survived for 1,200 years in some form or another and they were a wide range of of nationalities and cultures but all United within Christendom basically yeah because it had it had
Logos as the organizing governing principle this is why Catholics are the most we have the greatest reverence for plurality in the world you go to daily mass in every major city in any country and you’re going to see billionaires sitting next to homeless people black white yellow people of all ethnic
Stripes skin color does not matter to Catholicism it has nothing to do with something so superficial as skin color and everything as you said Anthony has to do with with culture uh cultist the root word there I mean this is why I’m I’m returning to Fresh content for our
Membership site coffin Nation we’ve got members in 20 different countries and the insight there in addition to our tagline which is we go there is that breitbart’s famous phrase that politics is Downstream from culture it’s true but there’s also something Upstream from culture and that’s religion yeah culture
Is wraps around what you worship so if you worship A God Called Allah who’s a slave master and you are a slave then you’re going to have a manifestation of a different kind of culture your women are going to be treated differently your laws are going to reflect different
Moray if you believe God as a father who sent his son and makes us children then that Downstream is going to come come up with a completely different set of laws and educational standards and uh the institution of marriage for for example so it’s all about uh cultist worship
What are you worshiping and we see in back to 911 the the falling of the double false idol yeah uh trying to re almost like a double Tower of Babel kind of trying to reach up to the heavens and uh I’m sure you all remember exactly
Where you were and and um all the circumstances that okay so now so now the narrative itself that it was because it really I didn’t even think to start daring touching that narrative I was such a we saw the buildings hit we know what happened you know I would be the
Guy arguing against the people who were truthers you know I would actually be the guy arguing against that stuff and now we come up and especially once the pandemic hits I start going wait a minute I’m just watching how they’re brainwashing us with every single bit of information I’m watching so many people
Fall for it around me people that I like people that I care about and I’m watching relationships get fractured because this one won’t wear a mask and this one and it’s like are you people really falling for this well I have family members that went and got like
Double boosted and I’m like what what are you watching like what what what media are you paying attention to that you think that this thing is okay this is not okay like what is going through your mind so but once I started seeing that I started saying and and it was also the
2020 election watching that made me go okay so if these guys you know what we might have to go we have to go we have to go over to locals because I just want to say stuff and I’m afraid we’re gonna have to all right
We do you want to you don’t want to use schisms no I really don’t like it I want to be able to talk so I want to be able to say what I have on my mind um all right so we’ll switch over to locals we’re gonna everybody go over
To locals if you guys don’t have locals or you don’t want to go to locals if you switch over to our Twitter feeds mine or Rob’s we’re broadcasting this from there you’ll be able to catch the whole show from there for free um and uh we’ll go
From there because I have all right so I want to talk I want to get into the election I want to get into I I never really studied I don’t know much about the JFK thing but the moonlanding man I Patrick had me watch a three and a half hour
Documentary on the moonlanding and I’m pretty sure we didn’t go to the Moon I’m like I’m pretty sure we didn’t go to the Moon Yeah so much there’s so much there on all the things all the things that make you an insta Pariah are the things that should get your attention about why
That is so yeah and then and you know we’re gonna catch some grief from some of the mainstream Catholics out there wait Patrick before we go there yeah what is what is uh what is your stance on Evolution and has it has it changed like has it always been this and like
What’s your stance on Evolution and young Earth excellent excellent well th those are two related but different topics I’m I’m newer I’m younger to the young Earth um cosmology uh mostly because I I’ve I’ve only been introduced to the a Salient fullscale treatment of the young Earth from a book recommended
To me by Bishop Robert vasha who’s now the the sitting um ordinary of Santa Rosa California it’s called Genesis commentary on Genesis 1 through1 I Believe by Father Victor wtz that thing that book is just this magisterial summary of the teaching of the church fathers on the literal sense of
Scripture what does yam mean in Hebrew for the seven days of creation the approximate age of the earth based on what we know from the signs of nature the literalness of that of not only Adam and Eve but the flood and so on fascinating book I recommend it to
Anyone listening it’s right up your alley Father Victor orowitz he was a PhD from Temple University a later vocation and spent the rest of his life as a priest telling people about Eucharistic adoration but that book is really really uh it’s just summarizes a lot what’s it
Called Genesis 2 I want to say Genesis 1-1 commentary on possibly compendium I don’t remember it’s a it’s a a yellow red cover yeah yeah it’s really really great the church fathers are are this un almost unknown when it comes to teaching of scripture and science uh I was raised
Right in that center Bishop Baron if you believe that Adam and Eve were individuals then you’re a hamfisted fundamentalist that’s a quote from him by the way um the the mainstream establishment Catholic catechetical World tends to side with soft Evolution where there was a special Act of God
That we see reflected in the first three especially first three chapters of Genesis but really there was a kind of quasa evolution I mean who knows what uh Pope P the 12 taught in humanity generus in 1950 was not really dogmatic so you could kind of maybe pause it polygenism
A kind of community of these semi Apes that’s where the whole thing falls apart I now hold to what was always taught pre 1962 that Adam and Eve were directly and literally created by God that Eve was created from man’s Adam’s substance and that the entire human race began from an
Initial pair and that evidence that scriptural evidence that data of Revelation is now being Vindicated by by genetic science so that’s in a nutshell and I think the theories plural of evolution are a major reason why young people leave the church because they can’t Square the circle they can’t uh
Maybe my great great great great grandfather was an ape H where does that where does that leave uh human dignity if we’re descended from Beasts and brutes over the past um year or two um it’s strange because it all started with um it started with like a secular
Documentary I watched and it was about like these ancient cultures and these ancient monoliths all throughout the world and stuff but it just made me like I had this Epiphany that every culture has that has ever existed has a creation myth because God put this crazy innate
Desire in every human being that they have to know where they came from in every single human culture that has ever existed you’re talking the non-Christian cultures any any culture that’s ever existed they have a creation myth and it’s it just made me realize that what
Evolution is is just a creation myth and it’s a creation myth meant to undo the Christian creation myth because if you want to get rid of Christianity you have to get rid of its creation myth and it has done more damage to so to the point
Where I’m like I don’t even care if the science lines up with Evolution I refuse to even look at it because it will affect your Christian faith it really will because it’s you have to believe the Christian or origin story story because that’s what God gave us so there
There’ll be people who will say well God wouldn’t want to confuse us so why would he put these things showing to his Evolution well why would God want to confuse Us by giving us an origin story that doesn’t make sense either so there there’s there’s just something too
Narrative because this whole show is about narratives right and narrative is such an important thing for humans we need a narrative it’s why God made us so that stories mean so much to us it’s why the the Christian story is told to us as a story and it’s it’s just the way God
Designed us so that has really like irked me over the past year or two and then talking to um Hugh Owens from from the Colby Center and different people just going back and looking at what the fathers actually taught on this about creation being an instantaneous thing
It’s really just made me question that as much as I’m questioning 911 as much so many of our the other narratives that we’ll probably be talking about are built so heavily upon on Evolution without that narrative without without Evolution so much else in our modern
World and the way they try to make us think just falls apart entirely yeah what could be wrong with cyborgs and the fourth Industrial Revolution it’s just the next thing listen to Noah Noah Harari whatever his triple name is yeah um but but I’ll tell you without fail Catholics that say they
Believe in evolution almost everyone and I’m talking mainstream Catholics that I respect that I like almost every one of them that believe in evolution also believe there aliens so we are supposed to believe that we are created in God’s image and we are the Pinnacle of creation but there might have been a
Species that developed a little bit and evolved better than us and they can travel intergalactically but like you don’t realize how much and they might have their own incarnation of Christ and all just it’s so wrong it just everything gets thrown out of whack when you really fall for the evolution myth
And it’s just a narrative it’s another narrative that’s all I’m telling you so even if I’m wrong on it I don’t know it’s just something that’s been really shifting in my mind the other thing I wanted to ask you Pat because I don’t think we asked you this last time like
When you were at Catholic answers uh what was like the first signs that you wanted to leave was there any like was it uh was it just the your your opinions on Francis you weren’t allowed to say or what was it about like what made you
Want to go off on your own uh good question I kind of kept my head down and focused on on being the best host that I could uh at the time when I was hosting the live radio show I I we didn’t we didn’t get a lot of questions about
Francis as I remember uh my reasons for leaving had to do with the fact that it kind of reached a creative ceiling after seven and a half years I mean when you when you know 9,642 different ways to explain where Purgatory is in the Bible and moments
Got a little bit awkward because I had an unfair advantage over the guest even like a cardinal or Archbishop because I’ve sat in that chair and fielded so many objections from so many different um points of view I just felt the time was had come where I wanted to set my
Own guests my own schedule and talk about things that were trending I would never have interviewed uh been able to interview Jordan Peterson which I did four times um I did my first two very long form interviews with Milo yannopoulos um you know atheists I had a
At the time I had a an email relationship with Dr Richard Dawkins from Oxford and um I wanted to go outside the official Catholic fold because um one of my guests was a guy called near a he’s a Israeli living in New York he’s a former uh big Tech
Executive who wrote a book on called hooked on how that industry creates the sound of pings and notifications and bells and sounds and the color texture of what what appears in our cell phones all very scientifically designed to make us addicts and then he wrote another
Book and how to counter all that called um called uh indistractable I think it’s called so these are people I call them Insider Outsiders they’re outside the but man they this true north I think it was Robert Epstein um he was the guy who figured out that
Google was like rigging our elections by like uh just making it like I know who you mean yeah it is yeah Robert Epstein I never I think it’s Epstein I never actually interviewed him but I know who you mean that’s a good example are you sure I’m I I remembered an interview
With him oh okay but yeah it’s like all these people that you spoke to there were they were um like lifelong Democrats that during the covid thing like they were just like okay something’s off here and you were actually I mean some of those interviews man are they still up on Rumble can
People go back and watch yeah they can they can find some of them are native on my Patrick coffin. media uh Dr Naomi wolf longtime Clinton adviser of course secular Democrat Jewish woman who was really made into a pariah by her own uh Jewish community and in her uh synagogue
They kind of banished her to the Hinterlands on her on my show she starts asking me about Catholic theology and the devil and the end of the world this is someone who’s hungry for the truth who’s not uh who’s just coming at it from that binary lens of true versus F
Uh true versus false and it’s from Naomi that I that I really grasped early on that these digital passports and all of the the things that they were demanding of us have nothing to do with our health and everything to do with Gathering data on us that was her first insight and I
Think she’s been Vindicated yeah I always saw the shot as a way for them to get you to disobey your own conscience not for the shot itself but for something coming down the road it was like I just saw it as if you don’t stand your ground on this you will never stand
Your ground when it really really matters and I’m glad I did on that one because the things that like I wasn’t even so 100% positive that there was going to be catastrophic effects it was more just my conscience tells me there’s something off on this and I’m not going
To to give in on this I literally was this close to losing my job thank God I found a priest that was willing to write me an exemption letter but I was ready to walk away from my gig and I don’t know what I would have done but I just
Knew if I disobeyed my conscience in that moment I would have never had the strength to stand up for what was coming down the road so sure yep so all right we’re gonna jump over there because I want to get into uh I want to get into
Election stuff I want to get I want to get into some spicy stuff so all right Rob take us out bring us over there guys if you want to continue watching you don’t have locals just jump over to Rob or my Twitter handle and the show is
Streaming live from there uh if you can please support us on locals we would love to have you over there we’re trying to grow it we’re gonna have um we’re gonna have a lot of things going on in locals like we have father modley coming that whole show is going to be about
About the conversion of the Jews that’s going to have to be on locals I mean his book I just finished his book it is out of this world um we also have Matt frad on Thursday this is funny I got you today and then Matt frat on Thursday and
Both of you have affected my interview style so and Calvin Robinson on Monday don’t forget that Calvin Robinson on Monday yeah we got a lot we got a lot of big shows coming up so um all right let’s go over there Rob Let’s uh let’s take over we’ll get into some dirtiness
Okay I’m gonna play a quick video intellectual Contraband yeah that’s what we’re going into okay here we Go
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