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Guys where we have intense entertaining educating and enlightening sport talk from your favorite sports family what’s popping fam uh much love to the fam coming at you with a late one Wednesday middle of the week Saints talk this one is a reaction stream to several different things to be
Honest with you uh as well and um I get some get so many messages from people mostly a lot of the great Saint tank tank family members some other people that are supposed to be Saints people but you you know they’re and I don’t want to disparage anybody I just you
Know they got some smart family members out there like that’s that’s why I created the great Saint thing tank because I just wanted to have just dialogue with some intelligent people man talking about the Saints and not people that are like Fanatics that Saints people I mean people that I’m not
Trying to disparage or be mean to people I like to engage and talk about Saint talk with intelligent people you get what I’m getting at not people that are fanboys or fan girls or something like that you know you know I don’t care how the team the type of people mentality is
Like I don’t care if the Saints stink or if they be ow and 16 I’mma still give them my money them type of people I just man listen if you want to do that go ahead on and do it you know just do that [ __ ] way over there somewhere I mean
Don’t come around here with it like you you more than welcome to go ahead and do it just take your dumb ass over there somewhere I mean listen I’m not trying to be mean that’s not what I’m trying to say or trying to do here I’m I promise
You I’m not trying to be mean I’m just just saying that at the end of the day that’s why the great sa T tank is a real thing because boy oh boy they got some people out here that just need to be put in the rocket somewhere and shot
In the space somewhere and left to their own vices I tell you what in this anyway in this episode Fam I’m G talk about some stuff we’re gonna react to several different things they had an interview that family was to tell me telling me about on social media I had to keep
Letting the family members know I appreciate y’all sending me the interview but we you know I covered the Amy TR thing on our TSC patreon show yesterday I know a lot of people are talking about it today but we covered it yesterday and usually you know that’s I
Did it for the fam on the patreon special we talked about it and Amy trass who’s the former Chief Executive Officer for the Raiders gave her thing her breakdown on Dennis Allen and it’s pretty much what we you know we’ve been saying here it’s pretty much what we’ve
Been saying here I don’t know Dennis Allen I don’t care didn’t want to know Dennis Allen but what I do know about Dennis Allen that he doesn’t belong nowhere close to being running somebody football team maybe if you have a playground team that you want him to run
Or the bided ball team or the pickle ball team something like that maybe he can handle that but when it come down to running a professional football team he don’t have no business being on top of no football team period And the reason why I said it is several different
Things so I’m G touch on some stuff shout out to some of the family members out there that keep you know talking about the stuff with the the with is that they’re dealing with the victory formation and I’m I’m like fam listen when the saints got into the victory formation
Then he ran up play out of the victory formation they got guys literally upset that the Saints did that I mean regular people upset that the Saints did that almost like they they did something sacrilegious to the religion or something I mean this it’s absolutely insane running the play out of the
Victory formation is a an Unwritten agreement between players on the field it’s not nothing that is established in any rule book anywhere where it’s illegal that’s why when they did it no Flags came out it is a legal move now granted when the saints did what they did to the
Falcons in the last game of the year I promise you this will change a lot of things in terms of that when it happens on the goal line now if you’re on the defense and they got a guy set up with a victory play on the goal line you might want to make
Sure that you make sure they’re doing the victory formation that’s the bottom damn line you know so when they did it people you not supposed to do that that’s wrong I mean you you about to get on them boy I’m about to cut him up but listen the
Bottom line is this man at the end of the day uh that’s my take on it the Saints did it if somebody do it to us I don’t is what’s good for the goose is good for the gandas we talking about an imperfect [ __ ] ass NFL game what I
Can tell you they greedy they trifling they want 18 games and and all this kind of stuff and they worrying about what you running out of Victor formation it’s stupid man I mean grow the grow grow up man grow the hell up and nobody and if if you’re running out of the victory
Formation on the goal line you make sure they’re running the victory formation you make sure that they’re kneeling on the ball you know because they they do have the ability to change it to something else I mean it’s just common sense man but anyway let’s keep it
Moving in some of this topics a discussion we gonna talk about on today’s show biggest issue for the Saints caused them to miss the playoffs now this is an article by ESPN that was wrot by cat Terrell she gives her breakdown of what she believes is something pertaining to why the Saints
Missed the playoffs we’ll go over this by cat terl we also move go over some of the interview I won’t play all of it maybe about a four minute piece of the interview with Amy trash talking about Dennis Allen we’ll also go over something I’mma try my best to actually
Go over this interview listen to this entire interview with WWL with Micky Lumis and I think this is the last damn one of the season and we’re gonna go over some articles right here about the Saints family members raising money to put up Billboards around the city a
Billboard up in in around the area saying fire Dennis Allen this is how serious it is and how stupid this Mickey Lumis guy is I mean so at the end of the day we’re gonna cover it here we’re gonna go over it and listen no disrespect and I’m not trying to
Disparage people that are so-called quote unquote fans but usually and listen if you’re gonna be a fan that’s that’s that’s your thing but I don’t like the fan mentality you get what I’m saying I’m talking about somebody that’s so stupid that they would just throw all their money to a team that’s
Disrespecting them and not listening to them and just involved in utter time wasting just involved in straight up time wasting the type of person and that’s not everybody the people that don’t understand what kind of power they have they just people that just totally brainless they don’t Implement no power
Whatever the team says it’s 100 and if you say against that you’re wrong and you’re not a whatever they won’t turn you whatever they say it don’t matter anyway because they don’t matter anyway if you’re not using your power to to sway a team to make better decisions than you the dumb ass
It’s not Mick lumus or Gail and or Dennis Allen you the dumb ass if they turning out a poor product on the field and you as a person watching or going up there giving your money to go up there and be disrespected and being uh and shown down and you that’s on
You what I’m trying to get people to understand is that if you do what you supposed to do and Implement your power and keep your stupid ass from the team then I tell you what’ll happened that that’ll force them to look at their books and they’ll draw back and they’ll
Make changes this stuff works it works everywhere else it’ll work in the NFL so for those who have brains I’m asking you to join us for those who don’t go stand over there somewhere and keep doing what you’re doing because we’ll make it we’ll make it pop without
You we’ll make it pop without you you already you already don’t count when you’re not using your power anyway so I mean like I said man I mean we move ments have been created and started with 5 to 15% of the population most of these people they were not involved in some of
The greatest movements on the planet so it’s a small microcosm of what we trying to get PE the NFL this NFL team who we give hundreds of millions of dollars too and pay for arena pay for these Arena deals pay for the rent on these buildings allow them to operate damn
Their tax free give them skyscrapers and then use all your tax dollars to become the richest people people in the state and all you asking them to do is win and they can’t do that they can’t do that [ __ ] and then you got some pompous jerk off elitist
Sitting on top of the team be rating reporters when they report telling you that you’re unsophisticated and that you that they’re not qualified these was words that they’re telling you that’s disrespectful man you’re not qualified to talk about their NFL coach is a his coach he not talking about nobody but Dennis
Allen but he can’t think for a second that maybe there is some truth to what people are saying when you turn and look at the team but we gonna go over today I’m not goingon to I’m GNA I’m just going to put it right there man I’m not
I’m not for everybody and that’s cool I’m only for people who want things to change people who want to understand they have power and use the power that’s who I’m for I’m not for somebody that don’t understand what this is that they have a they have an ability
Of power over the team and if they be more disciplined and operate on code things could change if you work work with other people things can change that’s who I’m for I’m not for them other people man I’ve been saying that for for years and the sports coma is the number one
Longest independent running Saints podcast in the game so I don’t market for everybody I’m only for those real people out there who want to tell it like it is I’m not GNA play with you and play patty cake with you about who these people are I’m not g to play with you
And only give you one way so I can get you to hit the Subscribe button or the like button so that you would like what I’m doing no I’m going to give it to you real whether you like it or not whether it’s for my team or against my team you
Got people asking me I’m trying to figure out one of the brothers in the in the comment section actually I’m trying to figure out whether or not you a person that support the team or not because of you something like what say these people are so conditioned that they think one-way
Coverage and is it’s just insane when the saints was doing stuff that was unscrupulous and underhanded I ain’t hear anybody talking about it when they had the stuff that was tied to the Catholic church I was hammering them [ __ ] people for that where were you at what were you
Doing were they doing the same I’m telling you I’m Real Deal whether it’s far where as far my team is against it I’mma stand on the truth whether they there or not I’mma stand on it so anyway let’s keep it moving man let’s get right into it on this issue
Right here biggest issues for the saints that caused them to miss the playoffs by cat Terrell shout out to cat she says Dennis Allen said he knew right away that week three loss to the Packers might come back to hunt the team down the road I said that here when it
Happened when it collapsed I said that one’s going to come back to bite you it’s always one you get one every year you going to regret that was it there are plenty to regret about the 1817 loss Derek Carr took a hit to the shoulder that ended his game early but that loss
One in which they were up 17 to nothing blah blah blah I was proud of the way our guys contined to fight I was proud of the way we finished this is what he was saying after the season the Saints barely missed the playoffs though the Lost tiebreaker to the Bucks win
Percentage in common games the Packers win percentage in conference games the fall short on the final day of the season now you would think of that the Green Bay game would be the one but the Saints lost games that they shouldn’t have lost they shouldn’t have lost to
The Texans they shouldn’t have lost to the Minnesota Vikings who didn’t even have a starting quarterback they just traded for a guy a few days before they didn’t even have their best wide receiver and they beat the Saints before the buy they shouldn’t have lost to the
Falcons after having a week to prepare for the Falcons out of the buy but they did and they contined to do because they don’t because they are mismanaged we said it all the time and you can see it it’s not hard to to see when a you got a badly ran
Business so anyway here’s a look at the biggest issue that led to Saints elimination from postseason contention Red Zone and scoring struggles the Saints didn’t really click offensively until the second half of the season in their first 11 games they were tied 20th with 17 Red Zone touchdowns they were
29th in the Red Zone efficiency and 30 30th in Red Zone scoring percentage that improved significantly in the final seven games of the season the saints were tied for the to for fourth with the fifth the 15 Red Zone TDS then that span and ranked fourth in the Red Zone
Efficiency and sixth in scoring percentage so they did get better in the Red Zone later on but the reality is in football of in professional sports period is how fast you adjust how fast can you adjust and adapt to what’s going on in real time and the Saints have a
Big problem with that because they don’t do that well especially when the season started and and the offense started to stink and and and stop and go and it was radically inconsistent some games didn’t put up a touchdown they just with field goal kicking and like I said sometimes
The offense will stink sometimes they won’t be able to pass but they’ll run sometimes they’ll be able to pass but not run so I mean but at times the Saints offense just was just not any good and it was because of a lot of things you know in particular early on
The Red Zone wouldn’t all that for the Saints because perhaps they would have done better to start putting people in there that can help them in the Red Zone you know in particular who we talking about so what Chris Olive said we just underachieved man we had real big goals
And we were dedicated and locked in during training camp to be one of the best teams in the league we lost a few games real close I feel good with the weapons we got we just kept getting better and better as a season went on now they averaged 20 points 29 Points in
The final five games of stretch where they went four and one she listen it’s not any particular order she mentions outbursts the Saints communication issues were reoccurring themed the throughout the season with Olia admitted he let his frustrations get the best of him in a loss against the Bucks and his
Attitude on the sideline caused several teammates to pull aside and explain how to handle things the right way while that particular incident wasn’t caught on excuse me camera a video from the stands appeared to show car letting his frustrations on offensive coordinator p carmichel and we’ve seen that happen all the time
Whether he was he cursed that car Michael several times before he finally stopped doing it and I can understand it was a Communications between the coaches and the quarterback his wide receivers and then you can see car’s accuracy stunk it sucked passes were you know
Where they had to reach for it it were over their head they had I mean it was you know thrown low they had to go down low not all of the time but a great deal of the times his passes sailed where guys had to reach or jump or you know
Was just it just wasn’t what it was later in the season car enter it got into McCoy and had to be separated part of the frustration that they struggled on the first offensive possession scoring only three times on their initial Drive they kick field goals in weeks one4 and scored the first
Possession in week 17 they punted 10 times missed three field goals and had one pass intercepted so the Outburst she mentions quarterback play should really be at the top of this thing but players will op to optimistic about the state of the offense after Saint sign car but
Things quickly got off to a rough start Carr sprain AC join the shoulder had his worst game of the season against the bucks car left two games with injuries and put were put into concussion protocol during the back-to-back losses of the Vikings and Falcons Carr was booed by the family members during home
Games as the offense continued to struggle however he played some of the best football at the end of the season and threw four touchdowns and week gave team time for a career high they’re passing the 15 passing touchdown the final five games was thrown by Tam Hill
One was tied the most in in the NFL at that time Allen who had uh defended cars playing said the outside criticism was unfair and attribute the late season improving partially to Carr’s Health now he would never actually that’s the one thing that’s a lot of thing people don’t like about Dennis
Allen because a lot of people saying this D and the third about Dennis Allen and I can’t believe they got actually people that actually are fan they got guys that The Fanboys for Dennis had some guy was talking to the comment section defending Dennis Al I’m like
What where the [ __ ] you came from it’s SP of my French I mean it just it just who are these people who are these random people if they’re even real people they probably just Bots but it’s really weird because it’s not something that can be debated the
Team issues they’re coming from at the top they’re coming from at the top of the team and then when the guy who is the head coach picks the quarterback and the quarterback struggles and you don’t discipline him team people around there see that and they’re not going to like
That but if you got a head coach who don’t know how to be a head coach and how to deal with people this is what kind of environment you’re going to create an environment where half the team doesn’t doesn’t like the guy and don’t want to play for the
Guy when they’ll run plays when he says go out there and knil on the ball and they run a play anyway they ask him and he says no and they do it anyway where they do that at if they respect the coach would they have done that to Pete
Carroll would they have done that to bill bellich would they have done that to Mike Tomlin would they have done that to Dem or would they have done that to McDaniels in Miami or anybody that a head coach in the NFL where do they do that at if they respect
You crazy but anyway we know about the Carr thing I talked about Carr Carr played better on the back end because he was supposed to a lot of this was supposed to be early game but the pressure somebody had to put pressure on this dude to improve because he was out
There staring down half the field he wasn’t progressing through the progressions he wasn’t going through the full plate he was looking one side while guys were running free wide open on the other side when he finally starts cycling through he seen options and was
Able to fire it on them so I mean it’s it’s not real it’s not difficult to look at I mean it’s on tape you can look at the tape it’ll show you everything that you need to need that need you need to know or see defense took a step back it
Did and the game against Green Bear took a major step back they finished tied for 28th with 34 sacks long time cam Rush pass rusher Cam Jordan who injured his ankle late in the season finished with the fewest amount of sacks two since his rookie year he admitted several times
Over the course of the Season that he needed to figure out how to get the defense to start faster the defense allow the first possession score nine times with five of those being touchdowns the Saints defense finished 22nd in rushing yards allowed which included their inability to stop running
Backs it was an improvement over 22 but it marked a downward trend for a team that was a top five against to run just 2018 2020 their one major area of improvement was in the takeaways they finished fourth with 29 total and tied for third and and with
18 interceptions only the issue is we could not convert them and turn them into touchdowns lack of a running attack Saints started the first three games of the Season without ak– 41 because of what happened with in veg Vegas situation he his return did didn’t automatically improve the game he
Averaged just under four yards per and finished just under 12200 yards of scrimmage yards which is the ls of his career Saints didn’t get much from free agent Jamal Williams who scored only once with that touchdown at the end of the season the prior year he led the NFL
With you know with touchdowns and he averaged over three almost three yards per carry so the Saints finished 21st in the rushing offense and averaged only just over 102 and a half rushing yards and the the lowest since the 2015 season not a very good measurement so lack of
Running game defense kind of took a step back and she mentioned quarterback play as well as the Outburst of the commun and I would kind of term Outburst as communication issues that’s what I see that as which I agree maybe not in this order and I don’t think she was putting
An order to it she was just throwing them out there but I agree with all of these and I think head coaching should be put up there as well because a team is not is not going to be good as its instructor the guy at the top is the one
That assemble all of the pieces of the team the the mindset and the assistant coaches the coordinators are people that he hired that want to R run that area of the of the team so if they’re not on their game something needs to be done to remove them and find somebody else and
That type of thing if it was done during the season in terms of promoting somebody above somebody who wasn’t doing their job in terms of one of the assistant coaches it could have meant a difference in games it could have meant another win somewhere a pickup of a game
That we ultimately left but you would never know because nothing was done it was remained the same and nothing was done in terms of doing it even though pressure was put on them to do it the guy simply said that we gonna make changes and never made any changes and
Then when the season ended at 99 and8 he had a press conference we covered the last stream in which he said he was pissed how the season ended when he the dumbass that need to be pissed with himself because he had the power to change it during the season and did
Nothing so I don’t want even hear it when we was saying it the whole time the whole time all right so let’s go here with it let me play for you guys this this report here from and shout out to G wgno y’all put one in the chat if y’all can
Hear this report here by wgo here we upset about this season’s record say one person is to blank and they’re raising money to show their frustration with head coach Dennis Allen they want everyone to see a billboard on airheart Boulevard near the Saints facility saying fire Dennis Allen it’s a GoFundMe
Campaign it runs until January 22nd the go goal is $1,800 so far this group has raised $740 so we may see that billboard after all all right so as you can [Laughter] see people ain’t paying man people ain’t playing but all that all that just to prove a point to some
Ignorant arrogant people but that’s okay we you you can’t beat you can’t beat the hudats you can’t disparage them and the see see 2024 all this other stuff all this the veil’s coming off man the energy is different people don’t still have that same blind ass energy where if
They say do something then they’re doing it that that’s not working no more see what I’m saying this is the age of empowerment and that’s what I’m trying to tell people is there’s power in utilizing your power having your power everybody have a certain amount of power
That they can Implement in their life you decide on where you want to place that and would it be beneficial to place that to this organization when they’re not operating in good faith that’s a decision that you would have to make based on what they’re doing there’s plenty enough evidence out there
A lot of the family members are not buying the tickets anymore they’re not going to the events why because for the last 20 plus years we’ve given them our money and they responded in kind and the reality is you don’t put good money after bad I’m sorry we don’t operate
Like that some do if you do go over there and do it we not I’m not doing it I’m just gonna keep it real deal with you I’m not doing it you know I’m not in the habit of of uh of doing something I’m just I’m just
Not the one for that I’m sorry I’m not the one but let me let let me hit y’all with this man this is something I want to show with y’all too because we covered this yes yesterday on TSC shout out to our patreon Champions our YouTube membership family they seen this I
Covered this yesterday on the patreon show this is coming from Amy trass who’s the former Raider CEO and she cut loose on Dennis Allen she don’t like Dennis Allen a lot of people don’t like like Dennis Allen and like I said the way Dennis Allen got to be the Saints head
Coach was not because it was some honorable thing it was a good old boy hookup that’s what it was they had several coaches that were way more qualified than Dennis Allen ever could be douge Peterson came here with a Super Bowl rang the Saints let him walk out the
Door Eric benmy operates a very good offense and is very disciplined they talked to him for eight hours and then finally decide to offer him a OC job Brian Flores and others that are very bright and brilliant people Flores is a guy that all lot of people could believe
Could believe could be a demo Ryan’s type very intelligent person but in the end we went through all of that just to come back to Dennis Allen who Shawn Peyton told Mickey Lumas to hire and he hired them that’s pretty much in a nutshell how it went Sean told him to do
It and he did it that’s nothing deep about that nothing deep about it at all and pretending like I don’t know that that happened it’s it’s just stupid come on keep it keep it real the guy had zero resume to get that job and nobody was
Asking him to interview for the job but the proof is in the pudding now listen to this I would ask you what your reaction was in what world does this happen to a team where a quarterback basically gives his head coach the middle finger in what world when your
Head coach is Dennis Allen Susie um I’m speaking from experience as you know I overlapped with Dennis Allen in Oakland for one year and everything I observed during that year is such that when that play happened I wasn’t the least bit surprised now if it happened to any
Other coach I would have been surprised it happened in Dennis was the coach I was not the least bit surprised uh shortly after Dennis was hired by the Saints I was asked about him about his coaching his leadership on CBS Sports on that other pregame show CBS Sports
Network and I answered in the following manner because now I have an addition to that answer I shared my views of Dennis’s leadership and I use that word in quotes while he was with the Raiders and I quickly noted that look we can all
Learn on the job we can grow on the job we can improve on the job I not only grew on my job I grew up on the job I grew up on the job I learned I made mistakes and I said Dennis can do that
As well and what that play made clear to me is he has not changed his leadership style um so was I surprised that that happened I may have been one of the only people who was not surprised that happened okay so that that’s and she worked with him before this was 10 plus
Years ago we talking about with uh Amy tras 10 years ago hadn’t changed and that was the question I was asking because all the order to be a successful coach you have to be able to be a good organizer of people a motivator of people you have to be a good
Planner and you have to be somebody people can trust I’m pretty sure that people have a manager or a guy that they work with that they can’t trust a backstabby snaky underhanded person that uh tries to use other people as stepping sty uh blocks to try to get up into the
Business and backstabby guys that’s what kind of guy you have here that’s running the team and I’m telling you that you’re going to have problems here because most teams see themselves as a fraternity or Brotherhood or sister not a Sisterhood because it’s mostly men but it’s a Brotherhood or a fraternity right and
They play for each other but they have to have faith in the head coach they’re playing for for that to happen when Dennis Allen told the world that they ran a play without his permission we didn’t even have to hear that they even take it above the vict the
Victory the victory [ __ ] the victory formation [ __ ] let’s go up a higher level to how we found out that they ran a play without his permission he said it in the press conference he told on his team that’s that’s that’s called throwing them under the bus what happened to keep it an
Inhouse handling it inhouse that’s the type of H hypocritical bull crap that people don’t like about Dennis all that’s what I’m talking about when all of other stuff happened with Mike Thomas we gonna handle that in house but when that happened the whole situation happened with the play that was ranning
He went ran to the media and told the media and the world they ran a play without problem but they did that on their own and I have to apologize for to Arthur Smith and Atlanta Falcons for running up to score on them that won’t get you no brownie points
With me that won’t get you no brownie points with your players it won’t get you nothing it makes you look stupid you you are Dennis Allen really is a stupid man I hate to say that man I’m not trying to disparage the guy I’m talking about his actions too only a stupid
Person would have done that man a stupid rotten backstabby dog does stuff like that ran his ass up to the press and blabbed on his team and threw them under the bus we shouldn’t have even we should have never even known about what happened on that play we should have not known Arthur
Smith ain’t [ __ ] to the hudat nation and the New Orleans Saints he means absolutely nothing to us matter of fact he’s fired right now he been lost his job before they walked into that game he was going to get fired it was a d for him at you know if
They had lost by three or five or 10 or 14 he was done anyway so it’s no need for you to even say that to him and that’s what I’m saying where is that’s why I’m saying this is a really stupid person man this is really a stupid
Person that they don’t have enough Vision to even span out would rather throw his team under the bus and apologize to a hated rival about them scoring an extra touchdown on them out of the victory formation something we Wen even supposed to know about we W
Even and that’s what I’m saying man just really stupid and underhanded to do that I mean it’s just that’s just unbelievable that’s why I said he’s going to have difficulties learning he’s going to have a lot of difficulties having people to play for him so if there’s discussions
And rumors about trading players from the Saints more than likely it’s going to be people who don’t like them and don’t trust them it’s like Q why would they end up trying to trade this person and trade that person because the people that’s there that they trying to say
That there’s not a split in the locker room when there really is a split in the locker room if a team was really together and they believed in the coach you think they’ll run a play without his permission only fractured teams do that go in there and lay it down first of all
It wasn’t a very smart move to tell James to go and do that anyway it was quite disrespectful to be honest with you you don’t have nothing to do to play with him anyway let Carr go out there and KN it down the Carr been playing the
Whole damn game anyway let him play the whole the whole game through go out there and nail on it but you know what if Carr would have if they would have asked Derek Carr to do that Derek Carr would have told Dennis Allen hey we’re gonna run this play for Jamal and Carr
Would have told Dennis Allen that Pete carmichel and they would have said okay go do it I’ll deal with it he would have not done he would not have thrown Derek Carr under that damn bus he wouldn’t have done it he would have fell on the sword for him it all
Changed if Carr was out there if Carr was out there you would have never heard none of this stuff so anyway let’s move on to the next in this next article right here man we gonna play some of this stuff right here and this is from the interview we heard
Today from uh WWL they were interviewing um Mickey Lumis and boy it’s a it’s just under 24 minutes I don’t know if I’m going be able to get through all of this because it’s you know because my emotions you know my emotions is terrible you know I
Emotions I have to wait a little bit you know before I even get to this article so you know I don’t know I I might not be able to make it through it you know we’re gonna listen to this Mickey lum’s final interview for Wednesday with these
People let’s see what Mickey had to say about the saint season here we go y’all put one in looking to kickoff 2024 with big with a pun limit and guarantee in 50 state salam’s Executive Vice President and general manager Mickey lumus and Mickey you finish nine and eight beat the Falcons handily 4817
You win four of your last five so many positive things to build upon except probably that that that thing at the top of the list which would be you know win the you know win the division or or make the playoffs so and that’s where it begins
Right yeah it it definitely begins there um because that’s that you know that’s the goal in the beginning of the season and I think it was a very realistic goal to um have double digit wins and to win the division was very realistic and we didn’t get that accomplished and so um
Overall I would say it was just a disappointing season um I do like as you mentioned that we finished um you know one for of the last five finished really strong we saw um we saw n a number of times number of games where look it looked like um a good performance
Offense defense and special teams and so that’s encouraging um but we’ve got to be able to do that consistently throughout an entire season it’s just amazing we pinpoint the same things we talked about it and perhaps and I’m just saying perhaps and I’m saying that not just now but I was
Saying this during the actual season with mickus if he was a little bit more proactive in terms of putting pressure on Dennis Allen during the season to make corrections to the offensive play calling room and to make changes faster things could have changed but he did nothing he did nothing but berate the
Reporters talk and talk down and disparage supporters of the team and try to make you think that they knew what they were doing when we knew that they were failing we kept saying it the whole way people don’t like to hear it but the reality is we I was there you were there
Advocating pring pressing promoting uh Mickey Lumis to take a stand and he wouldn’t do anything but make excuses and give stupid ass stats on why everybody in the NFL is is scoring less points stuff that didn’t even prove his point but in the end now it’s we didn’t
Do what we were supposed to to do that’s just it’s just amazing man just just a bunch of time wasters man just time wasters I mean you take advantage of the the situation when you got it bro you got to do it at that time and now we
Have now they regretting it at the end of the year that they didn’t win it when he could have done something at the time just a bunch of time wasting trolls man for real man let’s talk about Derek Carr uh and two two questions on him first
Off this is availability 17 starts uh we’ve seen the impact throughout the league you know for many many teams because of quarterbacks being injured just I mean he he fought through it wasn’t he wasn’t 100% every week right at those starts but he fought through some stuff you know this
Year yeah I think and I I think really people don’t realize how hurt that he was during the year and still rolled it out there still played played well um did some really good things in spite of um you know having a really banged up body and and look the best ability is
Availability right and so we we we were lucky enough during the Drew Brees years to have him available um you know 95% or whatever percentage of time he was available that’s not common in our league um we saw a number of quarterbacks go down during the course
Of this season and every season and so for for Derek to to be able to go out there tough it out when he’s hurt um that that just speaks to how tough he is once again I I’ve often said and I said it over and over again the entire
Season people was asking about Derek Carr’s ability to play in these games and was he hurt the Saints denied that he was hurt Dennis Allen said several times including one time in particular that I actually have on tape when I played the press conference that whatever injuries that Derek Carr had
Did not in affect his play on the field that is literally his word forba him they refused to talk about him people were asking man what this dude have they hid and lied about the broken rib thing for weeks for months that he had busted ribs he had literally admitted several weeks prior
To the end of the season that he had three broken ribs they hid and lied about that for the entire s summation of the Season since the Green Bay game they lied about it now at the back of the season the softball reporter comes up with him giving him credit for playing
Hurt when they were saying that he wasn’t in bad enough shape to affect his play now we giving him credit for playing hurt amazing this is what they do every year the same techniques the same stuff every year every year it’s the same thing over and over and over again they
Do the same stuff over and over again and it’s like a play book and I told you what they were going to do several weeks before the season ends and I told you they were ramping up to try to tell you that he had these injuries even though
They s they hid the injuries and lied about the injuries now all of a sudden he was playing hurt during the season now all of a sudden that they could have had a degree of affecting his play and despite that he still had good numbers after the fact and it’s just just just
What it is it’s what they do they lie about stuff and then at the back of the season they try to use the injury Factor as some type of measurement of some type of little giblet in there to try to give you some sympathy we knew we knew that Derek Carr was dealing
With issues with broken ribs we could tell when the guy smacked him on his on his h on his chest he bend it over like in in the fetal position like he was in intense pain we knew that and they were lying they lied about it the entire
Season they hit it and lied about it the entire season nobody gonna talk about that except for me and several others right and certainly towards the end right I mean his numbers you know you look at the last five 14 touchdowns two interceptions against Atlanta he was 22
Of 28 they got like a 75% 74.8 completion percentage and you know even though he was here you know from March of last year beginning of the Season went through the whole thing he wasn’t taking Snaps with at Perry he was on the team yet I mean there’s there’s a growth
Right that that goes through the season uh for Derek Carr right yeah I think that there’s you’re exactly right I think there’s an acclamation no matter how much of a veteran player you are you have to uh uh get acclimated to your teammates to the offense that you’re running the play
Calling the tempo that we play at there’s all kinds of things that are different you know when you change teams and and uh look I I think I think Derek did a really good job in a lot of areas I mean he was a top 10 um quarterback in
Our league he just is that look at the rating points look at the look at the numbers look at the performance um we get a little you know we we get extra critical what did that what did he just say out of areas I mean he was a top 10
Um uh quarterback in our league he just is look at the rating points look at the look at the numbers look at the performance um Dan if you’re a top 10 never never mind never mind let’s keep we get a little you know we we get extra critical
Because we we only won nine games I get it we should be critical but there’s a lot of good things that he did and I think it bodess well going forward you talked to the team get extra critical because it’s about winning getting to the playoffs sir it’s playoff
Time bro we spent you spend $150 million on this quarterback dude talking about we get extra critical you damn we get an extra critical it’s 150 million for a quarterback who was built as the answer to the issue with the Saints offense you had everybody you had the
Receivers you had the running backs you had the tight ends you had a well put together unit before the injury started to come in you have one of the oldest teams in the NFL and this is not supposed to be a rebuild situation this is supposed to be
Plug and play plug and play in playoffs 150 million the car plug them into the offense was supposed to be a QB friendly system and car plugs into the offense offense plugs the team into the playoffs you’re G to talk about extra critical you didn’t make the playoffs
Nine and eight is not a winning mark for a team as old as the Saints with that tiny window that they’re looking at and the fact of what we supposed to be doing this team is supposed to be in the playoffs nine and eight is not a good
Way for this old team to finish it’s supposed to be playoffs so yes it’s going to be extra critical stuff going on because you failed you failed you’re a failure the goal was playoffs you fail thus you’re a failure you’re a failure the goal was not to have a top 10
Quarterback statistically because you was stat packing at the end of the year the reality was to have a playoff team so all you have now is three years of playoff inactivity from an expensive team expensive offensive team $150 million quarterback that only gets nine wins this was a complete team this team was
Actually had a pretty decent defense at one point and they were littered and loaded with weapons on the offensive side of the ball it don’t all fall on the quarterback it falls on the head coach who’s supposed to get his Personnel around them guys together so if the co
If the offensive coordinator stinks he’s supposed to put pressure on him and if he keeps stinking he’s supposed to replace him with another guy or give another guy an opportunity to call the plays to see if that changes things up he didn’t do none of that he just left it the
Same fails and then says I’m pissed that’s what Dennis Allen says and this guy is talking about being extra critical see the the goal it’s different goals here it’s different goals here see this is a they want this is they’re making money so they’re not as pissed
Off as you are see you want to be in the playoffs you want to go to the playoffs you want to play for a Super Bowl is notice there’s a different level of upsetness that you hear in my voice versus what you hear from them you see
What I’m saying so if money is the motivation for them and they’re making money despite the fact that they’re failing at what they’re supposed to do they’re not living up to the goals that they told us that they were going to live up to and you as a person that’s a
Supporter get upset because they’re not doing what they supposed to do and they’re not mimicking that same behavior there’s a problem fro it’s a it’s a it’s a problem fam it’s a problem there so if you’re not if that if you’re not as upset as I am and the rest of the Bas
Is then what are you really doing what are you really what is really your focus here you see what I’m getting at and that and that’s when things get really interesting you know uh I believe after the season just I know broadly speaking what was the
Message yeah I you know look I did do that um I don’t do it very often and it’s really a message just for the players and so I’m going to leave it at that um you know trying to set the tone uh for what we expect going forward and and
I thought it was uh well received we talked about Derek and we didn’t really talk a lot of the offensive players but we you know get to some of them but I wanted to talk about your defensive players as well and again you know the the positives that you build on Jordan
Howen and not not even the young guys but Isaac yam you know Jonathan AB Abram uh Brian breaze there seems to be the the building blocks there maybe and I don’t know how much you expected Jordan Howen or Isaac yedam even play this year but they seem to have been you know
Pretty significant factors when you needed them the most yeah there was a number of guys um that that uh stepped up during the course of the Season some that you kind of expect to and some that you don’t um yeah I thought Isaac had a really good
Season for us you know after marshan was hurt and he got pushed into the action Jordan Howen um you know we look we drafted him with the idea that he is going to become a good player and and look that timetable gets sped up a little bit but there he made good
Progress John Abram who came in here um you know after being a high pick for another team and and trying to find a home I thought he did a great job for us and really appreciated his um his contribution to our team in the locker
Room uh as well as on the field um we had some young U you know young receiver at Perry who who was thrust into action and and did some good things things now none of them are finished products right um but they all made progress they all
Did some good things the guys that we expected to make progress Brian B um he made he made progress we had some um free agents Nate Shepard and Colin Saunders who came here at the defensive tackle position and I thought they did some good things for us uh Carl
Granderson took a step forward so we had a lot of younger players uh make make sign ific an steps you know Paulson adbo at his best year um we’ve been waiting for him because we know we know the ability that he has I thought alante Taylor um inconsistent but did and
Showed some good things for us and so I’m excited about his prospects um you know Tyron Matthew did did some really good things for us um as a veteran player things that we expected and so there’s there’s some there’s some really good positive things that come out of a
Season and yet and there’s still the bad taste of you know nine and eight that’s that’s a bad taste for us and I hope that our standards are much higher than just having a winning season and one of the things that you were able to do along the way during the season right
Before the season and you know in Camp was to lock up some of these players right to get you know you did a lot of work uh during the season and right before the season of getting some of these guys into you know that were I don’t say vulnerable but you know get
Get like a brers and get these some of these guys locked down yeah that’s and that look that’s a double-edged sword sometimes um because you’re speculating about you know their progress um and some sometimes you know when you you sign a contract somebody you know that player you know exhales
And and relaxes a little bit and doesn’t make as much progress as you want so it’s always a double-edged sword but um I’m happy with where we’re at uh we’ve got some more work to do we’ve got a lot of decisions to make um but I think there’s a lot of positive
Things need to take a break we’ll be right back with Saints Executive Vice President and general manager Mickey Lumis this is this how does that work from a promotion lateral move what has to happen for you guys give you know I guess give him permission yeah well um yeah Kai Kai we
Were Kai was requested to interview for um for Carolina’s general manager position Jeff Ireland’s been requested uh to talk to um the Chargers about their position really all they have to do is just notify uh the team that they want to do that there’s no permission
That needs to be granted because it’s a promotion for each of those guys to a to the top you know football executiv so there’s no permission that has to be asked they just they just notify you that that’s what they’re going to do and then and then uh certainly our guys you
Know need to prepare and and be ready to uh to interview and put their best foot forward so as long as it’s an advancement like it has to be can’t you know go lateral right yeah they couldn’t uh uh they couldn’t notify the saints that they want to interview me for
Example because I’m already the top football executive so but if it’s if it’s a position that’s the assistant GM or Personnel director and they’re interviewing for the top football position then um they just notify they don’t have have to ask for permission any I guess I’ll get my processed
Questions out of the way I guess this is the thing on the kai Harley and the Jeff Ireland thing I know eventually some people will probably end up looking at those guys we know fno uh there’s rumors Circ circulating around with Atlanta that uh fno could be in in in in trouble
With them I don’t know how true it is but there are rumor circular you know with him but the kai thing you know he was he’s the assistant general manager he got got the promotion this year what’s interesting about it is at some point the Saints and
See we got to have something going on here where Mickey Lumis has to give up the general manager position he been doing it for 22 years it’s time for him to give that manager job to Kai it don’t make any sense for Mickey Lumis to be
Holding that job when he has another job which is the vice president of football operations I mean come on bro I mean this dude at some point you’ve got to get out of the way at least in terms of the general manager position but like I said
This is this guy is way too comfortable in this in this position doing this and it just it just at some point like Progressive organizations will promote younger people I mean right now Kai is like he hitting a glass feeling he can’t go any higher than he can go because
Lumis is sitting in the general manager chair and he has a job he has a VP job would would it hurt you to give up the general manager position to a younger guy who would take the team into the next 20 years of its existence get out of the way and let him
Have the GM chair you’ve done all that you can do here to be quite honest with you and you need to get give just give get up off the general manager chair seriously bro you’re the VP go be the VP go do whatever that is leave that general manager position to Kai Harley
Let him do it it’s the process moving forward for you as far as meetings with Dennis and Mrs Benson and your staff so coach Aden last night said he kind of takes a week you know to get all the emotions out of it before he meets with
His staff what what is your schedule moving forward with that yeah same thing you know we’re in here this week were just talking about a few things um that are more procedural you know how do we want this off season uh and the evaluations to go and then uh starting
Next week we’ll we’ll start talking about the player evaluations and and um move on from there and look the the the um the process of evaluating you know college players for this draft is already deep we’re deep into it Jeff and his staff and and Dennis and I all get
Um start getting involv in that very very shortly I’m assuming you so a week or so before the emotions of the season relaps and we know mumus hadn’t been doing evaluations for the entire season they both him and Dennis Allen do the same thing they they said the emotions
Of the Season involved and I I think that’s radically ridiculous I think that as a professional you should be able to keep your emotions in check to be able to do Fair evaluations on players I mean it’s just really ridiculous that old ass man like Micky Lumas be talking about
His emotions whether whether they winning or losing the emotions is in the way and he don’t want that so he waits uh after the season to to do evaluations about the season it’s a problem there a general manager that’s not evaluating things during the season is not an a
Current general manager he doesn’t have his thumb on the team he doesn’t know exactly what’s going on with the team because he’s not doing any real research and any evaluation at all because he too emotional one way or the other it’s silly it’s stupid and it’s that’s
Utterly ridiculous if you think about it that’s that’s some of the that’s why I want him to get up off of here man and let’s get somebody else that know how to keep their emotions in check during the season so they can do their job because the general manager’s job is to
Evaluate it is that’s what and then if you think about it all of the stuff that was happened last year when jamus Winston was going get into when didn’t sound I kept asking y’all where’s where’s m at like he wasn’t even there he might as well not been there when
Players are frustrated and disgusted where is he at the calm the room where is he at what is he doing he ain’t doing any evaluation so he would he sitting up there twilling his fingers what what is he doing you see what I’m saying what are
You doing it’s your team this is your team you’re supposed to be on top of it like that guys are not none of that’s supposed to even get close to getting to the Press I mean if you’re on top of the team and you know what time it is with
Your team then you know how to appease stuff that’s going on in the in in in underneath the head coach or players and star players and people are upset you know how to appease them and keep the team together I mean like I said the guy
That you pick he really not good at that you know it’s just strange man it’s this it’s very strange to hear stuff stuff like that man to be honest with you man and it just shows you this some old timey crap man some old timey [ __ ] man for real you
Are watching the game where kind of we are at least on the 700 level uh which puts the Chris olavi catch for the touchdown at the far northeast corner just first impress let me pause that for a second uh shout out to the fam man appreciate y’all being in the Stream let
Me H get some of these super chats Brent thank you bro says a lot of NFL seems cult like big Q come yeah I know bro a lot that’s the thing that um we talk about the fanatic’s mentality I don’t like the term fanatic I really don’t and
People know this about me and I don’t like it because of what what a fanatic does like a fanatic if you think about you go to research it a fanatic a fanaticism is really not a good thing but it’s the mentality that a fanatical person has that is not a productive
Mentality you can’t get them together to and I’m saying a f it just keeps you away from The Logical mind process the thinking it’s a thought process a logical thought thought process that you got to have to be able to kind of go through some stuff and most of these
People they so far gone you can’t even have really good discussions with them about the New Orleans Saints you can’t you can’t talk to them about I don’t had people that just hear me and come up to me and talk to me on the street about
The Saints and they just it just you can’t have a real back and forth with them and it’s no disrespect to them it’s just where people are in the world you can’t you know you it’s it’s you it’s nothing to it’s no give and get there you
Know you know it’s like what I it’s the weirdest thing in the world but you know thank you Brent appreciate you for that bro he says Amy TR is on her task H yeah Amy she gave game about him when they hired Dennis Allen she did an interview
And said the same thing I hope he learned such and such about such and such and they know know what time it is with Dennis Allen we know what time it is with Dennis Allen and you got this guy cobbling him that’s talking right now Omar thank you bro say the Saints
Defense was bad need more DT help also you guys be okay Mayfield and Bryce aren’t better than DC eyes on Atlanta load up on the dline and o line so thank you Omar appreciate the Super Chat thank you also Brent thank you say thank you thank you very much picking me up
Ringing me back yeah this is uh I mean in the end man it’s just going to be really it’s gonna be a strange off season it really is and not so much in terms of who they gonna sign or draft they always do a good job of signing or drafting people
In the off season offseason’s going to be fantastic like the last couple of off seasons were that’s that that’s they win the off season Super Bowl cup that’s they do that every year but it’s when you can you take what you have in the
Off seon and turn it on in the in during the season is when things kind of get a little murky but third year for Dennis Allen and I’m GNA let Lumis finish up his whatever he doing on there but it’s a lot of stuff man I’m telling
You the whole Groen thing him having this whole case that that I’m going to cover that right after finished speaking got about another few minutes of this so let’s just get through this and we’ll talk about the Gren thing on other here we go questions a reaction on that play from what you
Could see um well look it it’s it wasn’t a lot different from a lot of his catches I mean Chris is so athletic he he does things that you know most human beings can’t do and that’s just another one it’s it’s it’s athleticism it’s it’s hand ey coordination it’s all these
Things that that uh contribute to him being you know a really unique talent and and you know I don’t know what more to say about it than that it’s just it’s not surprising you know because we’ve seen things like that we’ve seen it in practice at times and and it you know
Chris is one of these guys that he’s one of these athletes that makes everything look easy and um you know we’ve all seen those athletes in different sports that they don’t even look like they’re putting out a huge effort and it just makes it look easy and yet we know it’s
Not right no they I was like it was such a phenomenal play I was like don’t let some Tic Tac like he didn’t have possession or get both feet and it was like that was so amazing make make this count I was like it was yeah it was just
So impressive um so with you talked a little bit about uh Brian B I’m curious as to what you saw in his growth because it just felt like you know man he kind of came into his own the last half of the season and just put on some moves
That you go whoa you know give that kid two or three years down the road and I know GMS and coaches don’t like spotlighting particular players particularly rookies yeah you know with what you saw because you know you know from him being a first-rounder you know
The 29th pick yeah I think uh um I would say this I think he definitely has the abilities that we all thought he had um I think he’s probably a little raer in terms of development than what we originally thought he might be um I think the light did kind of come on
The last half of the season I think he’s been well coached you know I think Todd and and BR Young have done a really good job with him and I we see the progress I hope that um he doesn’t feel satisfied because he’s got he’s still got a long
Way to go and yet man we see these flashes and we see these things that he can do and we just want more of it he battled through injuries uh but I was I would suspect the Brian B pick a lot of people were skeptical about it the Brian
B pick but Brian B was a guy a lot of people wanted to liked him but thought about his injury history he was phenomenal Brian B um big guy very fast very difficult to block the future’s bright for that guy and Lumis and and he talked about
Several other players uh on the team that really and not not just rookies but just talk about guys that really stepped up shout out to Paulson adbo he was fantastic this year Isaac yidam really stepped this game up when he started whipping his head around and locating
The ball and tackling better he was playing with a lot more confidence you know alante had some positives too you know you know how it is in that second year uh Chris olve had some issues but ultimately finished with 87 what 80 80 plus catches 87 catches I think it is he
Was phenomenal this year for the Saints doing his thing where he when he finally got going so there was a lot of players that kind of stepped forward Jordan Howen really did a really solid job from the safety position uh shout out to Nephi suell who got hurt but he was
Playing really solid Zack bour finally really started to establish himself on the Saints defense to sub package as a pass rusher he even playing he was playing really phenomenal on special teams as well so I mean there were Carl Granderson led the team in Sachs he got
His paper that was really good for the Saints as well with Cam getting old and then you Payton Turners banged up and and Isaiah fosy the Snowman not there yet so it was good to see Brian pery it was good to see Granderson it was good to see some of
These guys and Pete Werner had a pretty solid year as as well so I mean there was some really good bright spots for the Saints rased Shahed was special once again this year uh kend Dre Miller in the last game of the season was aw was
Pretty a awesome so in the end man a lot of bright spots for the Saints moving forward but the offensive line that’s a whole another thing here we go that this will be a very important off season for Trevor Penning no yes yeah AB absolutely it’s it’s an
Important off season for him and um yeah we’ve got to we’ve got to give him we got to put him in the situation to be successful you know we’ve got to help him with his development um with his confidence he’s got the ability to be a a a really good player in our
League uh but we’ve got to enable that by giving putting him in the right environment uh giving the right development and we’ll do that we will do that this is not uh Trevor related but just the the situation the whole thing with ram it’s going to be the ram check
Situation like I talked about the Saints offensive line is going to be it’s going to be interesting we know that Andrew Pete’s contract is up James Hurst is another guy um Trevor Penning he about to make mention of Trevor Penning where he fits in his whole dynamic Ryan Ram
With that knee is really bad it’s and reports are uh he’s looking for you know trying to get some surgery done to it um but it is really dire and serious it could be impactful to his future aspects of playing that’s how serious that knee
Isue is Will Ram so at some point the Saints will have to address they gonna have to address the offensive line this season because they that offensive line look really suspect and weak and inconsistent at times so so they’re going to have to figure out something I
Know they got Nick Cel D who was hurt during the year and the RAM and and not Ram but Trevor Penning who I believe should be right tackle not left tackle do they make the switch and then find somebody else to play the left tackle position maybe getting another guard
There kind of beefing that up they really need to pay attention to the offensive line as well and I think they will Brent says low expectations from the GetGo is the root issue thank you bro for that he also says man Mickey overfloweth with sophistication yes Mickey Lumis is quite the elitest when
He wants to be all thank you for that brand appreciate it man thank you thank you too overall just generically did you see players come in from some smaller schools who’ve maybe been you know had you know not big fish in a small pond but something like that
And they have some success early and then they have you know some time struggling and it is a confidence thing right I mean you must have seen this before with players that have kind of been in that situation and kind of how to get out of it how how to develop them
Out of it yeah it well it’s a lot of things and and look in Trevor’s case look he did come from a smaller school I wouldn’t say it was a small school smaller school um but he look he had some success playing against against better competition I I think the biggest uh
Issue for us was man he was hurt um half of his first season he didn’t have a real off season this last year and so you know the he’s behind in development but it’s not really his fault it wasn’t his fault that he got hurt um it wasn’t his fault that this
Off season he was unable to to do the things that you normally get to do going into your second year and so we probably threw him out there a little too soon and and uh it was unfair and so we’ve got to get that corrected I don’t and listen I I
Don’t some a lot of some of that I agree with I’m I agree with some of that but I think getting it corrected is I think he’s playing the wrong position and because Penning has the size he has the temperament he has the athletic ability to play the left tackle
Position but he shouldn’t be the left tackle and I was saying it then there’s only a certain rare group of offensive tackles blindsider that you would use for that and he didn’t fit that group I mean like when you you can you know when guys come
Out like if there’s a high ranking one in the draft you know who it is when you see him you know and I I just didn’t get when I seen um Penning play that he was this this left tackle I was like ah no so with ram
Being in trouble if with his career Penning should be at the right tackle he doesn’t need to be at the Blindside tackle and then the thing about Penning is it’s psychological when you listen to him when the interviews and we were playing him on the show you just got to remember
It he was telling you he was dealing with confidence issues like dealing with conf it’s psychological with Trevor he has the athle IC ability the size he can play the game but you got to put him in a better position to be effective and playing him at the left tackle position
Is all wrong and I said it when they draft I said man don’t put that kid at the left tackle position don’t do that to him because that you got 150 man you got a quarterback over there he he’s he a rookie and you’re using a rookie to
Protect the Blindside of quarterback it won’t end well and it didn’t you got to move with ram in trouble you got to put Penning on the right tackle position at least that way that’ll be a better position for him to learn with less pressure from the right side because
When Carr snaps the ball and he looks he he’s naturally a right-handed dude so he’s going to turn and look toward Trevor Penning side you know the the the left tackle position needs to be something more sturdy a sturdier player whether that is a a free agent that they
Go out and get or uh somebody that they like that’s high in the draft but something like that you know I wouldn’t even draft them I don’t even but they got one dude in the draft I think maybe two of them i’ say that probably would
Be top five grades or top 10 grades the kid from Notre Dame is pretty damn good a gonna lie but we gonna do the draft stuff lb but but I just I just don’t think that would be a good match up I think Penning should be at the right
Tackle position not blinds side no coach Allan has talked about it but I guess on the whole Jamal Williams Victory touchdown one if you have any comments two do you is there going to be trickle down do you think that maybe next year I mean certainly for when you play Atlanta
Both times this will it’ll it’ll probably rear it said but do you think there’ll be any trickle down impact from this oh I don’t know I I look I think we should have KN it down yes I understand what the players did I don’t think it was malicious on their part they’re just
Trying to do something for a teammate I completely understand there’s nothing malicious about it yet I wish it hadn’t happened I don’t think it’s the right thing I don’t I don’t think look I think it’s been been made a bigger deal of than it needs to be and yet I don’t
Think um I think sportsmanship is a good thing to talk about um I don’t think we talk about it enough in all of our uh uh Endeavors particularly you know uh NFL games sport sportsmanship is a good thing what was sportsmanship when Dennis Allen went blab to the Press about what
His team did against when he against his ERS was that sportsmanship just asking the question to the great sa T tank y’all answer me question to the great s t tank was it good sportsmanship for Dennis Allen to go and blab to the press that his team
Had disobeyed his kneel down order and ran the play for Jamal Williams was that good uh sportsmanship just asking what if what if it’s good for the goose it’s good for the gander was it good sportsmanship we wouldn’t know about none of this if it wasn’t for Dennis
Allen was it good sportsmanship for a head coach to go and throw his team under the bus as opposed to just fall on the sword was that good sportsmanship all in the name of apologizing to a hated rival who would have did the same thing to you they
Kicked your teeth and if you if you gave him the chance they would have kicked your teeth in and smiled at it and and carried it Forward who cares if there’s blowback what kind of blowback you talking about the games those games that that you can’t get any more heated in and
Rivaled in the Atlanta in the Saints match up it it don’t it don’t get any better than that it don’t get any better Shantel says uh hell no yeah Derek says this sportsmanship this ain’t the Little League yeah what are you talking about that’s what I’m
Saying so yeah Doug what’s up Doug Doug says hell no right that’s what I’m saying sportsmanship I’m saying I’m asking the question because I want to know is it was it good sportsmanship for him to go and bl because we would none of this would be a thing if it wasn’t for him
Telling on his team to apologize to the Falcons that’s basically that is exactly what happened I’ve never heard of that I’ve never heard in all of the years of watching professional or even college football or even damn even watching High School football that I ever heard ever heard a coach blabbing to the
Press about his team disobeying his orders and then after he did that he then goes and apologize to the rival team who would kick his teeth in if you give him the chance to do the same thing to you we would have not heard about any
Of this if it wasn’t for him just letting you know leadership starts at the top Joanne says at this point I TR for Pierce uh Shantel need your email address for the timeline inter if you I think it is it is uh let’s see uh the P medianetwork
Gmail.com the th h p medianetwork gmail.com thank you Shantel all right yeah Doug says I’m with you bro we R yeah ATL ran the score up on us before but they forget all of that man Derek what’s up Derek says if they get rid of
Is over they want to succeed so bad well I mean a lot of this stuff is going on because of the imaginary fracture uh that uh they don’t believe is in the building but you know we talked about this let’s finish up and uh it sends the right message but I also
Think it’s kind of being overblown I mean um players are trying to just do something for their teammate it wasn’t that they were trying to embarrass the Falcons they’re just trying to do something for for Jamal and and themselves and um and I understand why Atlanta and their coach would be upset
So um I guess that’s all I’ve got to say about it and conversely and this will be the last question on this topic was that the whole fall out of Dennis’s reaction you and I have talked about this before that while he’s lost the team it’s like
What’s he supposed to say right well that’s just stupid right that’s just that’s just that’s just people making comments to make comments it’s stupid to say say that there’s not one player that would say that that’s not you know they were just trying to do a favor and do
Something good what they perceived as good for a teammate had nothing to do with um um yeah defying the head coach or anything like that just hey Mickey Mickey Mickey get off the stuff bro get off the stuff man get off the stuff dude that is literally the definition of
Defying the coach get off the stuff bro whatever that that industrial strength clam child that you eating on you need to leave it alone bro I think it’s sped I think it’s sped bro you know it might be giving you diarrhea of the of the mou and diarrhea
Of the brain bro get off the dope because the reality is that’s literally the definition of the team turning against you the head coach gives his team an order to go and knel the ball down and they run the play out of the victory formation that tricks the
Defense to make them think that is going to be a victory formation and listen at any other situation and I’ve said this before that if a team lines up at the 50 yard line or the 40 40 45 or the 35 or any of these other places and they knil
On the ball that’s one thing but when they at take a victory formation listen to me now all these people keep asking me questions and making comments about the victory formation I’m going to say this because this is all of this stuff I’m about to tell you are facts and you cannot dispute
It the victory formation I agree with what you’re saying what people are telling me about man that is something that it’s an Unwritten rule between the players with the vict and the coaches for the victory formation it’s Unwritten rule between them it’s like a handshake agreement between them but it’s not
Honored by referees or any rule book a person if they so choose to could run a play out of the Victory and they did the Saints did it on the goal line which is if you’re a defensive player and you are you got a goal line situation with the
Team in front of you and they’ve beaten you 41 to whatever the case may be what whatever the schore was 40 41 to 17 or 41 to 18 at the time and they’re at the goal line and they they look like they about to take a knee at the goal line bro be
Very skeptical of that if it’s on the goal line goal line goal line goal line be skeptical of that now if they ran the play which they did notice there wasn’t any Flags thrown cuz the play wasn’t illegal to run a play out of the victory that’s like a
Hand Shake agreement or Unwritten rule between the players and the coaches that they not supposed to do that well guess what they violated it just like they violated a lot of rules in the NFL and they viol violated a lot of rules in professional sports period there was no
Flags and it’s not illegal to do it it might be wrong based on that agreement but it’s not illegal to do it so I would caution people to understand that when next time this situation happens that there is goal a victory formation on somebody’s goal line the defense might
Want to be very skeptical about what’s about to happen that’s all I’m saying that’s that is all of that is facts so I’m just saying watch out for that just I can’t put it no clearer than that man I can’t say it no clearer than that but
For real what happened with the team disobeying Dennis Allen and Michael P Carmichaels order to go out there and KN on the ball and run the clock out he didn’t care about no Jamal Williams touchdown that didn’t register I don’t want to I don’t care just go knil it
Down no run the clock out we I don’t care about Jamal Williams getting a touchdown well the guys out here want it I don’t care just go nail it down word comes back to jamus James says he says no fam what y’all won’t do y’all won’t
Run it anyway yeah let’s go ahead and do it for Jamal they all said that so they go and run it out of the victory formation they they run a score up on him and Den Allen then turns around Runs Out get cussed out out at the front at
The podium he cusses them out comes back out to the to the press conference and blabs on and Tails on his team throw his team his whole team under the bus they did that on their own and he and he I like to apologize to them all that what
Happened to keeping that in house what happened to good sportsmanship see all of that is a result of what he did he did that he could could have kept that in house it didn’t have to play like that is what I’m trying to get people to
Understand they did it he we didn’t have to know about that and he told the world not players he told the world that they did that and he had nothing to do with it so but remember that creates fractures if a team is running plays without your permission on the field there’s a
Problem in your in your team there’s a problem that mean they’re not listening to you which is why he was upset but he was supposed to fall on the sword for that and not ever let us know about that that’s how he was supposed to handle
That but then again if he was a real Coach he would have understood what they wanted and would have gave it to him so in the end I don’t advocate for any coach not to be listened to by as players or players disrespecting a coach
I don’t advocate for none of that but I also want coaches to understand if they want to endear themselves to their teams they when they ask you for something that’s not out of the realm of impossibility or something that is not wrong or immoral to do give it to
Him that’ll make them play better for you and it’ll allow them to have a grander understanding of you like remember that time da did this for us he said yeah go for it and I’ll just I’ll take the flag for it whatever if they you know I’ll take the who cares who
Cares if Atlanta Falcons fired ass coaches mad at you who cares it’ll go away in a week fall on the sword for the team for a week not throw him under the bus like uh uh most backstabby people would do you silly that’s just overthinking it ain’t overthinking at
All man I I just think at some point that’s why I’m advocating for Micky lumus to be replaced as a general manager notice the elitist uh way and I’ve listened to these things I’m really just I’m really starting to not like Micky Lumis because he has a a very
Elitist way of talking to people and hos is like this guy that’s interviewing him is absolutely a complete brown noser I mean straight up this dude is the worst when it comes down he serves these questions up and agrees with the person he’s interviewing him he provides no um
Adversary commentary to the difference he doesn’t ask the question and stand in a position of unbiasedness he asks the question in a mocking fashion that creates the tone and the energy for Lumis to then come out with these type of comments you see what I’m saying he
Asked the question in a way which created the energy for him to then follow with that and most of the questions that are being asked those questions are asked in that same energy are are questions that the people are presenting because they’re saying they have they’re frustrated about this that
And the third and their frustrations are not being met seriously and that’s why people are upset because you know you hear what they saying and you’re ignoring them thus you know what they’re gonna do they gonna take their goddamn money and keep it in their pocket when
It come time for you to come to them for money and for support guess what they’re going to do they gonna ignore you one good turn one good turn the the deserves another what’s good for the goose is good for the gander that’s what I’m talking about so keep on what you’re
Doing because you gonna get the same energy in return that’s all I got to say about that baby let’s keep it pushing take a quick break this is the St sour m c s three cents Washington he said he wanted Michigan just because he didn’t want have to listen to The Pack 12
Oregon north northwest corner of the country but did you watch it and have you have you c a little Flack already today yes I did and um a second and yeah and look Washington is a rival of my school Oregon and yet I was um I would probably
Say I was in the Washington Corner because of the Pack 12 ties um but Michigan played a fantastic game well coached um played as well as you can play and and deserve to win the national championship and so kudos to them and now I got to listen to
The Michigan guys that U on our staff yeah well could B wor could been Ohio State you got a lot more of those and right that’s right so after kind of the next few weeks kind of play themselves out and kind of the break I guess between Senior Bowl and Legacy bowl like
I mean what what how do you kind of unplug we asked this to Dennis yesterday he didn’t really I don’t think he does unplug but what do you kind of do to kind of re recharge for the next season yeah um ask a question look you know
I’ve got I’ve got you know young kids that pay attention to I got a couple grandkids that that I’m gonna pay attention to um look I I’m excited for next season already which um typically doesn’t happen for me for a few weeks but I just see the possibilities that we have um
I’m excited about it and actually I’m kind of anxious to get going on next year even even this soon which um may sound a little odd but um I I I’m excited about our prospects I really am and and I hope that uh I know that our
Staff is I know that our players are and uh we’ve got some work to do and so let’s get to it in late January and then in February again I just mentioned the Senior Bowl late January HBCU Legacy Bowl how do those kind of play into are they just
Kind of pieces to the puzzle as you work towards uh you know Indianapolis and and and all the pro days and everything like that yeah well I you know I think first look we we go through an evaluation of our own team we kind of assess where
We’re at the the um the areas that we you know want to improve the areas that we can improve internally and then you know Dennis and I and and uh some of our other people are going to get brought up to speed on this year’s college class
Uh Jeff and his staff do a great job of that and then we’ll we’ll Dive Right In um you know th those All-Star games um and the combine are kind of our first pass at at touching some of those players and and um you know getting to know their strengths and weaknesses and
Then you know we’re right into uh right into the draft at that point you’re look at next year uh just two more questions first off the draft 14th pick um I mean I you know I don’t I know what the question is but uh you you’d like to be
Drafting much later because that would have meant a better season but you know I don’t know does that is that a spot where you can have some flexibility to move back and yeah move up might be tough but maybe move back to what you want to do yeah I think I think it’s
Actually a good you know we’re nine and eight and I think there were five or six teams that were nine and eight and we get to pick first of all those nine and eight teams so we could have been picking 20th um I’d much rather pick 14th um
Then then 20th U because you know you’re gonna well that that make a lot of sense because you damn so GM like that today I mean this year I would rather pick pick 20th Mickey that means at least we doing some [ __ ] here and we winning some games we make the
Playoffs ra I rather pick 14th brother if I could help it if I could help it I would rather not pick 14th Mickey I mean I I I wouldn’t rather that bro I would not rather that to be honest with you I wouldn’t rather pick for I
Would rather pick as far as back that mean I’m competing in the playoffs I’m in the I’m in the chase for the Super Bowl and I think there were five or six teams that were nine and eight and we get to pick first of all those nine and
Eight teams so we could have been picking 20th um I’d much rather pick 14th um then then 20th U because you know you’re going to have an opportunity you know it’s a good spot to hey we can move up a few spots if we need to at not too
Expensive a cost and we might be able to slide back I know I never slide back but we may be able to slide back and pick something up and mathematically possible right we can still get an equivalent player uh uh so I kind of like the spot
Um and look I from what I’ve seen so far I think this is a a pretty deep pretty good good uh draft class so we’re going to get some uh not just one good player we’re going to get some good players in this deal and and you know where and
What position and all that remains to be seen um but I know we’re GNA improve our team so for the first time since they’ve gone to the 17 game schedule unless you guys get you know shipped all overseas again uh you’ll have nine home eight away and Coach Allen said yesterday the
Strength of schedule means nothing until you play the actual team I don’t care about strength of schedule till you play the team but away you got at Dallas playoff team at Kansas City at Green Bay all three playoff teams and at the Giants and at the Chargers uh I mean that’s you know
There’s that would be tough I don’t care who you know what how you finished the year before that’s that’s the tough places to play on the road yeah look I I don’t know I I think every NFL team is a tough team to play uh on the road or at
Home and and we’ve said this many times in the past it’s not so much um who you play and what the record is it’s when you play them and and if they happen to be playing well when you play them then that’s a tougher um that’s a tougher
Road to H and so U the schedule’s a schedule we’ll play it out and hopefully they’re going to think that we’re tough to play um totally agree and home only one question I don’t know if you saw that the Denver’s coming and Bea Payton’s return uh that’ll be
Interesting and fun right yeah we roll we will roll out the red carpet for Sean Just J do you know or when will you know when do teams find out if they do have to go play in you know Mexico or Germany or or London again when when do
You allall find out yeah that comes uh I think it comes around March maybe a little before sometimes they’ll announce a couple at the Super Bowl they’ve done that in the past um yeah so so um but we you know we’ve done that fairly recently I wouldn’t
Expect that we’re in that rotation but look I don’t I don’t really know I know they’ve added some games so um it’s above my pay grade y well I appreciate the time as always have a great off SE all right that’s enough of that and that’s mck almost right there
Um rolling out the red carpet for Coach pton all right so anyway shout out to the fam man as we get ready to go let’s move on to the next and final article right here before we end the stream Nevada high court to hear NFL’s Appeal
On John ruden’s lawsuit here we go uh Nevada supreme court on Wednesday is hearing oral arguments on NFL’s appeal of John Gruden’s lawsuit against the league the NFL is asking the court to reverse a lower Court’s decision to allow Gruden’s lawsuit to for NE negligence in international interference with contractual relationships to
Proceed in the courts the NFL instead wants gruen’s complaint to be dealt with in arbitration where it is overseen by Roger who’s named in the lawsuit can you believe that can you believe how ridiculously stupid and corrupt the NL is they are asking the court they asking the court to reverse a
Decision to allow Gruden who’s suing Goodell in the NFL for his complaint to be H be put into arbitration where he who the guy is suing is overseeing it you don’t talk about fair play in the NFL for real Gruden filed a lawsuit in 21 of November Wednesday’s hearing was
Postponed from November when attorney citing a scheduling conflict asked for the postponement Gruden is accusing NFL of leaking emails he wrote to the Washington commanders president Bruce Allen from 2011 to 18 that were rif with racist and homophobic remarks and highly critical of good of Goodell the leaked emails stoked public outrage against
Gruden eventually leading to his resignation as the head coach of the Raiders an outcome he said the league manipulated Gruden in the lawsuit accused the league of a quote malicious and orchestrated campaign end quote to force his reg his resonation the email surfaces the part of the NFL investigation into workplace culture in
Washington under its previous owner Daniel Snider the leak emails found amid 6 50,000 documents became the only part of the League’s probe that went public and grutin is suing for damages to find out the source of the leak so he knows what’s going on grutin resigned with more than six years remaining on
The 10year hundred million contract the Clark County uh of Nevada District Court Judge Nancy elf denied the NFL’s motion to compel arbitration in 2022 a ruling the league is appealing to the higher high court on Wednesday they wanted to go into arbitration so that gell can have control of and manipulate the
Arbitration ain’t that something you want to talk about it that is literally the definition of a kangaroo court we looking at the NFL which is Goodell is tell is asking the court pleading to the court to have this held this situation into arbitration where he would be the
Guy on top of it he’s the guy that’s named in the lawsuit you think that Gruden’s gonna get a fair arbitration when when this is absolutely this is crazy this is this is look they got a guy here laughing they it’s absolutely crazy man is is
Just this is the NFL and this is the the funny part too because I was reading other documents because they was a case they had a guy that did a phenomenal job kind of laying it out we did a video about it last year where the guy was
Breaking All the intricacies of it down but this is really the the part they put into this Con this uh this report is that the email just think put this in your in in in your Collective the email surface as a part of an NFL investigation into workplace culture
That had something to do with Washington had nothing to do with um Gruden who Goodell and grutin do not get along they don’t like each other and it became he said it became the only part of the probe that went public out of 650,000 documents right of all kind of
Communications that were going on with the Washington football team and all kind of other people out of all those 650,000 documents the stuff with Gruden was the only stuff that went public that’s what Gruden’s talking about and he knows what happen that’s why he going so ferociously after goodel matter of fact
His commentary was said last year is that he’s going to burn the house down that was his wording he’s going for Goodell and if it comes out that Goodell had something to do with with that whole situation that’s G to this could be really bad for Roger Goodell we could
Probably a lot of people don’t like Gruden but this might be something that gets rid of go Roger Goodell if the court don’t go along with it and give him his arbitration request he being gr uh uh Goodell so that he can orchestrate this Kangaroo Court arbitration
Situation it’s not G man listen we might be able to get rid of Roger Goodell man because we know he dirty all right so anyway with that being said we gonna get ready to get out on that man but ain’t that cool man wouldn’t that be something
That Gruden gets rid of a Roger Goodell for the hudat nation boy that would be worth that would be worth the money right there that would be worth the money all right so anyway with that being said I’m G get out on that listen I appreciate y’all staying up late with
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