From dating to relationships from sex to love from Christianity to politics from Darkness to life you have now entered into the real Zone welcome to conversations with Trent where no topic of conversation is safe from discussion now here he is Mr Epic himself Trent Williams what’s going on what’s going on what’s going on beautiful people welcome to another podcast with conversation with Trent and Friends featuring the lovely coach d we got a hot wi tonight I’m actually getting this and receiving this as you guys are receiving this so I was minding my own
Business early last week um right at the podcast we did uh last week maybe in the middle of the week got received a call from coach D um on this messy Sunday topic right so I’m minding my own business what have you whatever so she comes up with this
Topic all I could do is chuckle and say see next week so the topic tonight is are are you leaders what she went on to say how can men be leaders when women have to protect their egos so I’m actually receiving this as you guys are receiving
It tonight because I had no words for her let’s bring her and see what she’s talking about hey hey hey hey there how are you okay would would you like to put out this disclaimer now that all hate m goes directly to coach dy I would be happy to receive their
Hate mail so was M my business first of all before we get into this topic how are you today how’s the little man oh he’s good he’s downstairs being being himself good Stu puberty’s getting to him you got in trouble at school got a not home an email a break give him a
Break give him a break he he gets a break because he’s he’s an excellent student and he participates in class so the teachers get let him get away with more than they ever should so because he’s a good kid right gotcha gotta so before before we dive into this topic
Let’s say hi to the folks and then I want to know exactly what’s on your mind with this because I was talking to a couple of my friends after I received that call from you and to be honest with you when you when you when you call me
Up and you said it all I did was created I was so discombobulated with it I forgot to send you a link folks you l Lally just received the link seconds before we’re going live yeah I call you for it exactly so and she never has to
Call me for the link but the topic was I was like wow okay so guys before you start throwing your darts I did bring my bulletproof vest here just to make sure but don’t shoot the messenger I’m just a messenger let’s say hi to the good folks
Over there on Instagram what’s going on folks how y’all doing tonight one sec one sec let’s uh go is with us she says ha the disclaimer she said hi to everybody hey there my favorite detroiter hey I see Detroit’s up man 217 gold Lions good stuff good stuff so let’s dig into this
Time let me jump over to Instagram see what they talking about where where y That’s I did I said when women have to protect their egos that is indeed what I said so let me tell you where this came from uh so I was watching Tik Tok
Because I was organizing my closet and doing a whole bunch of donations and took a break and I was iy asked this lady what gives her the room to talk about men and she goes the oppressor always knows more the oppressed always knows more about the oppressor than the oppressor does about
The oppressed and I was like Wow o she said a whole mouthful there which is true in the black community we know more about whiteness than white people do about it right because we’ve been oppressed by it and women have been oppressed by men for Generations so we
Know more about men than men know about women okay so let’s Circle back let’s Circle back on how did you get to this come to this conclusion about you know you gotta protect the egos every woman knows that that’s general knowledge we’re going to agree to disagree on some
Men on some men I said every woman knows that you’re a man you wouldn’t know what women know the oppressor not the oppressed I get it I get it but here’s the thing though my my in my opinion you ego won’t need protection if you’re comfortable in your own
Sin again your ego will not be will not need protected if you’re comfortable in your own skin my personal opinion sir you strap on shoes every every other week stop talking about stop stop so do tell I’m let you he it hey the floow is
Yours so I I want to see how you get out of this one there’s no there’s no getting out of it every woman knows that we protect egos for instance if a man cheats on a woman he’s fine with it right if she cheats back he will lose his ever loving mind
And if a man ask a woman am I the best you’ve ever had we will automatically say of course dear knowing darn well 99% of time we’re lying okay but you still you you’re placing men in a box D you’re placing men in a box because first of
All I I will agree on some of that I will agree on some of that right but you run into you run into a different man animal when when you get a guy coming in there a guy like me like my past I will not ask those type of
Question because I don’t want to know has been protected more times than you realize okay stop now you put my business out there in the street now KN get all so Martin says I’m not into sports and don’t have local channels don’t even know where to watch the game other than
Going to a bar SL Grand rise meling a people greeting posters princess coach DM Master epic Martine said I understand what this means I think does it mean that we have to [ __ ] foot with men yeah we have to walk around eggshells to ensure that their ego doesn’t get hurt
Because listen very carefully listen very carefully because when some men’s egos get hurt they get violent this is why you’ll see women who have is out in public if somebody um ask them mod or harasses them and they have to come up with a way to say no without saying no
So that they don’t get violent I get your point I get your point again when I stand 10 toes down and say some men the average man will get upset if he asks the question of hey who’s better me or him that’s an average man asking a
Question like that when you find a Bonafide rehabilitated player it’ll never happen said doesn’t mean we women have to [ __ ] foot with men like not telling them his breath is T and their needs go to a dentist yeah women walk around on eggshells men and men all the
Time with figure out ways to have you do things that that need to be done because if you don’t do if you have a priority list that doesn’t involve them you won’t do them again I’m agreeing with you I’m agreeing with you but we’re talking about an average
Man okay so stop strapping on shoes and remember that everything is General because you’re getting you’re about to get your ego bust because this is what I’m talking about you’re you’re not even listening to what I’m saying you’re constantly going Len to a man no you’re not you’re not listening to what I
Said continue go ahead right so here’s the thing and this is what men do to women all the time they overt talk us they ignore us they will make our ideas their own even though we have said that like if you go into a meeting a woman will give you an complete
Idea that it will be dismissed and disregarded then a man will turn around and go oh that that and say the exact same thing he’ll be told that’s a fabulous idea then they’ll look at her and ask her why didn’t she didn’t think of something like that when she was the
Originator of the idea to begin with but she can’t say anything now because if she does right say anything it’s going to blow their ego and then she becomes the aggressive one she becomes the [ __ ] she becomes the the bitter angry woman right every woman in her life has
Come across this problem this you can talk about or the average man all you want but this is General experience as a woman as you not a woman you cannot talk about what women experience I can’t speak on I can’t speak on a woman I can’t speak on a woman
Look uh even Martine says right that I’ve had a guy mantum on me recently like we have words for a man tantrum because it happens so often like I gave U somebody asked me for cash for a coffee once I said sure no problem
Here you go then he came back to ask me for more I said well I don’t have any more sorry I don’t usually carry cash he goes well you’re ugly anyway I’m like sir I don’t even care you want the coffee or not give me back my money like
Men are so aggressive towards women and we’re exposed to take it but and [ __ ] foot around so they don’t get hurt so they don’t re so they don’t react so let’s let’s let’s let’s dive into some shared responsibility right so if you [ __ ] footing around this sensitive guy is there’s some shared
Responsibility going on right so why are you even operating like that with him if you let’s say Let me Give an example Let me Give an example let’s just say you guys have been together for years and you’ve been [ __ ] putting around for years I’m not even talking about people
In relationships I’m talking about General people on the street you do not know that men treat women fair enough fair enough fair enough right so shared responsibility for what sir for somebody I don’t know think about that fair enough fair enough right right now you’re trying to make me [ __ ] foot
Around somebody like pretend that I’m supposed to have a relationship with this person I do not know and that I’m supposed to give them Grace or something when you when you call me a about the topic you didn’t say what you were pinpointing to because I knew what you were going to
Do stop talking like you know i’mna stop it yeah and Martine says when we speak up we’re told we’re angry and masculine and we’re supposed to and deal with it now that I see now that I say I’ve been pushed into this corner I get your point now you haven’t been push corner
You put yourself in the corner no when you call me you didn’t say where you were going with it that’s cuz you never do it to me so she was on the other foot congratulations you got me you got me you got me slash says slash says a man
Wouldn’t know what a woman knows so listen to what I said at earlier you missed it slash I said the oppressed always knows the oppressor better than themselves and slash defense he didn’t come in until after he on that’s why I said yeah he missed it so that’s what
I’m saying that’s like we as black people know more about whiteness than white people do because we’re oppressed by it constantly my favorite DET says uh right Tren it’s it’s with guys everywhere at work oh yeah I get that and I’ll agree with that because I’ve witnessed some of that I’ve had to
Actually at some point intervene this took place with me but yeah yeah and then then we’re told oh men are leers because we’re logical and we think without uh emotion I’m like have y’all looked around the world lately and seen all the emotion with all the wars that
Men are starting like where is the the emotionless there but in my opinion i’ I’ve seen this with these new found guys that I’m always talking about yeah you know and I don’t run those type of circles so I can’t speak on them but I’ve seen that
With these new found Guys these new men old guys are like that young guys are like that right it’s not it’s not a generational thing at all okay I wish it was older men Gen X and boomers are the worst of them wait what Gen X and boomers are the
Worst is that right yes I just I you want to laugh I saw where the heck is it um let me find it let me pull it up one second here so there’s uh one of the groups I’m in it’s just it’s just the sisters and most of the time we share
Like things that are going on in the world to be more aware we have like jokes and everything and she shared this uh guy he’s uh where is he I’m just trying to remember which one it was he’s 70 right remember that okay and he goes time to settle down looking for a
Good one at 70 at 70 years old at 70 years old so one of the so I said hm wonder what he was just diagnosed with and all the other ladies are like yeah because it’s not nice it’s it’s not nice but it’s true cuz it’s 70 you’re not you’re
Looking for a hospice wife why didn’t what happened at 50 why weren’t you settled at 50 for nurse yeah yeah he’s looking for somebody to take care of when he’s old and dead wow right and it’s just it’s crazy um here we go and you have many Martin
Says and you have many guys who claim that they don’t feel anything and say dumb stuff like catching feelings then when it’s old out are looking around for a woman to chill with I was listening on both IG and here oppress and oppressor what in what realm [ __ ] fooding ego and man Tantrums
What’s the topic again see so let’s talk about how some people make very condescending comments and pretend that they don’t know what was going on this is your Flor go ahead yeah to instigate a instigate a reaction we are talking about the whole patriarchy and men are leaders but women
Know that we have to walk around men’s egos on a regular basis right so how does that make a man a leader if he needs to be you have to walk on glass around them so you don’t break their ego you have to stroke their ego instead
Right I get that but again let’s let’s put this in relationship type form right I know you generalize and we’re talking about people that you don’t know let’s talk about the women who do that with guys and been in relationship for years and they’ve been walking around this
Guy’s feelings for years how authentic is that and it’s not authentic and you know what you’re told if you if you um as a woman if you tell him about himself go ahead I’m listen so when women step up and they start to tell their spouse about the stuff then
They’re told that they’re angry that they’re bitter that they’re not a traditional woman that they don’t know how to treat a man all this BS because he won’t pick up clothes off the floor put in the laundry basket like a decent human being right there it’s a no- win
Situation yeah that’s something I just I can’t honestly I can’t relate to you don’t have to relate I get it I get it I get what you’re saying and I’m not disagreeing with you I’m not disagreeing with you at all because I’ve seen this in in several
Cases but I’ve seen this in cases where this woman has been with this guy for years she’s put up with this this [ __ ] for years and and then you know I’m saying so at what point at what point do she become part of the problem because she’s
Enabling this guy society makes it her problem no matter what she does so we just gonna push the down the road we’re gonna she well wait for it if she leaves him she has broken up the family because then she couldn’t put up with what he what what he was putting up
She should have learned to deal with it and then you’ll have men who’ll say oh we want marriages like our grandmothers y’all forget Grandma used to play grit ball and they used to have multiple husbands die and again I can’t speak on your experience or any other woman’s
Experience um so that’s that’s that’s you guys experience but I have seen that in several cases yeah it happens on a regular basis and then what what’s going to happen is um then they’re told well he has has he you can’t um shine too much he has to be in the spotlight he’s
The man he’s the leader he’s he’s the man of the house but okay so let me ask you this right let me let me ask this now you know again let’s talk about the Shar responsibility so when a woman marries that type of man she done really done the work in
Getting to know this guy I would say yes because she saw the insecurity flag way before she said I do she saw this insecurity flag way before I’ve seen guys like that before I’ve seen them like that for me I give you an example gentlemen for me I’ll date a woman
65 walk into a place not worried about that she have on heels 65 tell her put on 3inch Heels cool whatever because the first thing they’re gonna say is who is that guy with that woman but for an insecure man oh baby you got to take those heels off you’re too taller than
Me I get it I get it Martine says Martine says this guy used to see would always say y’all women are some unstable creatures yeah that’s the common thing we’re either angry and bitter we’re emotional we don’t know how to handle our emotions we don’t know pressure Martine was that after the
Rejection after you gave him rejection does he say that slash coming hat I don’t believe in every comment or post I don’t believe in narratives and tactics of divide and conquer sir it’s not about divide what’s what’s divide and conquer relation what’s that I know where he’s going with that but go ahead
Where is he going with it then and translate because as far as divide and conquer he’s talking about you have to remember we’re on Instagram we we just got these 23,000 people back we’re not trying to get you know lose them in the same one you know
The same night but he’s talking about dividing conquer between a black man and a black woman and creating narratives and going with the story and whatnot I didn’t talk about race at all no he’s not he’s not he’s not talking about you yeah but I didn’t mention race at
All I didn’t talk about no not at all this wasn’t in relative to the black community at all this is relative to to male men and women period yeah go you you think this doesn’t happen in the white Community exact same thing way worse than the black community way
Especially when Bubba had about 12 packs of beer listen it’s not a battle of the sexist or you know what for some you know I’m not even going to talk about um women with with somebody who refuses to go to three different places to pick some up
For a date because that’s too much so whatever it’s your floor go ahead finish what you’re talking here here’s the thing it’s always whenever women bring up these complaints we’re always dismissed we’re always told no that’s not what’s going on it’s this is going on that’s not what’s going on this is
Going on even slash it’s the Battle of sexes that divide and conquer no women are tell you what exactly is going on and you were like no that’s not what happening right right right you know this is this is what’s going on this is why it’s hard for women to get proper
Health care because we go to the doctor and was dismissed right I get that the same dude has been married and divorced multiple times and recently attempted to marry another woman yeah exactly oh that’s the guy that she was just talking about yeah okay yeah because too often
It’s um say Society has has set up this failing system because it doesn’t work right and men don’t like here’s the problem now is women are switching up the rules right men made the rules the rules don’t work for them now and now they’re now they’re
Upset right right and so what happens is we end up having to fight because you you can’t you have to raise your voice if somebody’s not listening because riots are the voices Riot is the voice of the unheard right that’s what happens so you end up getting women protesting
People women shutting it down people I’m not doing this anymore and walking away because they’re not being heard they’re not being listened to right U Martine says anytime I attempt to have an adult conversation with him of course once I discovered he’d hopped around and was a habitual marrying type
I had to bounce yeah I’ve talked about that before that people will change Partners so they don’t change themselves right right right that’s a huge red flag for insecurity but when it comes yeah again I can’t disagree with you on your points I can’t disagree because
I see it I’ve seen it in several cases where men get upset when they’re rejected men get upset when you can’t get a phone number you see it all over social media now yeah women getting attacked and all so I can’t disagree with you I can’t there’s nothing to
Debate on with that yeah remember there’s a um a video that goes around uh this guy says my daddy my daddy said that if a woman I forget his exact words I’ll have to look it up in a minute my daddy said the woman’s not married by 35
Um she’s no good or something like that and then a woman comes up goes tell your daddy if a woman is not married by 35 she’s educated tell her she’s making moves so that her children don’t have to stand in line in the bus and all this stuff right and I’m
Like it’s why it is uh yeah so that’s why it is the way it is so a lot of people talk about how women are without listening to what women are saying right governments do it all the time look at all the all the um Congressional con um meetings they had
On women’s rights and it was a a room full of men like how can you have a meeting about women and birth control if you don’t have any women in the room yeah that’s a bit much right there that’s a bit much like I’ve been on Tik
Tok and men have said that women can stop their periods they can just hold it in have no idea what a pops smar is for yeah right if you were at the right in my opinion when it comes down to to laws on women’s body and and you
Know women body and all that stuff a man can’t make that decision for a woman because he don’t know how that feels he don’t know what our body goes through anything like that so I’m totally against that completely that’s the problem they think they can because they’re the leaders because Society has
Told them they can make they make all the decisions this is why women are so upset now right everybody as far as that I I don’t agree with that yeah and there’s there’s so much going on that it’s it’s just ridiculous when you look as a woman
And you look at our young daughters that are going to be raised up in the society and you’re thinking this has got to change and the only way to change it is to fight back and have difficult conversations and sometimes you have to yell because people aren’t listening so let me ask
You something and I’m gonna bring the race card in here real quick okay probably piss off a couple of people here but how much of do you see black men mirroring White men like that because when you when we talk about leading and talk about the the treatment of women and
Whatnot started off with the oppressor so how much would you say black men are mirroring what they’ve seen some do because it’s clo it’s easier to be closer to the oppressor than be oppressed one more time for the people on the back who did not get what you
Just said it’s easier to be closer to the oppressor than to be oppressed D my friend that was very deep and people don’t understand that and you’ll see it in all communities of color right look at look at what happened within the Asian Community they fought against affirmative action now
They’re not getting chosen for colleges exactly yeah because they didn’t want you in there either exactly the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action was the people of color it was white women now we’re getting to the me potatoes Now ladies and gentlemen now we’re getting to the meet and potatoes
So I will agree that as far as African-American men they only mirroring what they’ve seen what they witness and they push that on women which is not fair yeah now we’re getting into the meeting potatoes yeah because here’s the thing the oppressed always know who’s oppressing them exactly the oppressor
Will always deny being the oppressor you can look across history you can look across today that this is this is the way it is right right right you don’t have to be a history major or a women’s study major to know that let’s let’s catch a few of these comments real
Quick here um where’s that let me go back up U Martin says let me see where I Loft off Martin says I don’t want to or nor Dy deserve to be in anything with a guy who’ll have me in uneasy in his presence um slash as angry black woman
Who’s believing is that false narrative bruised Egos and the best you’ve ever had Pillow Talk how are you leaders sir what is women black women are literally losing their goddamn jobs for speaking up like you say a false narrative what talk to black women sir it’s not false we’re called it all the
Time I get calleded in emails on a regular basis well I give an example of of of what you’re talking about I give an example of that um just recently as you guys know I lost my niece after giving birth to a daughter Hospital over in Houston Texas
And I called coach D when it happened I’m like hey remember that show we did on we talked about black women in healthc care and how young women are not safe you know in those Environ yeah exactly all the medical experience so as you know I have a I
Have a whole bunch of female friends around the country and abroad so I started calling them out and asking them their experience with Healthcare even in Canada even over in France I’m talking about friends of mine and the United States all of them Shar the same similar
Experiences I was blown away by that after getting all that information from coach D like damn they’re really behind a ball yeah I get what you’re saying I get where you’re coming from yeah so some of that is not a not a narrative a false narrative because it’s really happening
Yeah if you complain are behind don’t even look like us but go ahead yeah if you’re complaining you’re a troublemaker um we’ll see it in the workforce all the time like look at our hair like I have long ringlets I have hair you see like the average white person has and I’m
Told my hair is unprofessional if I have it up in um if I have it in big fluffy curls what makes that my head what makes that unprofessional because they set the rules yeah they said like I had I was in a job once and they told me I would look cuter
If I straightened my hair I said I don’t want to look with straightened hair my hair is fine the way it is why because it would look more white right right like I straighten my hair maybe twice a year to do a um trim the ends and that’s about it and you know
It’s trying to be white adjacent is not my ministry that’s the one I want to do plenty of people will try it and like well I and then say well I don’t identify as black I’m like exactly I don’t know if you looked in a mirror lately honey
But’s really engaged in it let’s catch up on it real quick uh let me see Slash says one second is this the one name calling isn’t passing or rewriting laws aren’t there women lawmakers and legislators also how many many how many are we going to talk the numbers
About how many there are in in legislature it’s not it’s not it’s it’s some it’s some but the the more dominant as far as lawmakers and passing bills and Congress and Senate they’re predominantly white men yeah they don’t they don’t look like us at all and look
At all look at all the name calling of Camala Harris when she became vice president yeah all the let’s be clear on this ladies and gentlemen we talking about you know the people who actually in Congress creating these laws and all that stuff even a gentleman that Lobby on Congress don’t look like
Us and here’s the thing yeah the lead everybody talks about men as leaders and it’s a patriarchy that they’re that the system runs the way it does and it doesn’t protect us it only protects the ones at the top absolutely you know like even now they’ve just got
Rid of the um requirements for a GED for the Navy you know why they did that it’s because we’re going to go to war boom and they more Cannon fod and it’s not the rich kids going it’s the poor kids exactly those are the guys you won’t see
Them at the they’re building a new high school um just down the road where davri will be going there won’t be recruiters at that high school but there will be recruiters at the high school the other direction because that’s where all the the uh lower income kids
Go exactly right and that’s that’s the way America works we we they pick the poor against each other and I had talk was talking with a gentleman today I’m like sir they got nine out of 10 slices a pie and then got you fighting people coming across the border for that one
Piece telling them they’re the reason you’re you don’t have any pie so there the reason yeah which is not the case yeah there’s when people say men are leaders I see a lot of um BS right because who are our teachers growing up women yeah if men are leaders why AR why
Aren’t men teaching because that’s where Society is grades that’s where all the information is given even now if you go to the Subway or you go to the airport all the instructions are given by women because that’s who people listen to when they want information but at the same time if you
Stand in a boardroom of any type or in Congress you’ll be ignored right or you’ll be told you don’t know where you’re talking about well again let me let me let me apologize to you because I had no idea where you were going with this topic
When you called me it just kind of chuckled and went about my day so this is a great one this is a good one and it’s a much needed topic oh yeah I’m gonna I’m gonna get tons of hate mail because I telling me I don’t know what
Men men think like like please I’m a woman whove been around this planet for 52 years right I guarantee you I know know better just like we know how white people think we’ve been that’s it’s our survival we have know in order to survive let me get to the comments fing
Up Martin yeah Martin says and when you have these people claiming they smart smarter more together men come from two parent homes I totally disagree lots of guy know do come from two parent homes and are all hooked up uh Slash as there’s no such thing as
Fair and equal yeah okay whatever sir Martin says I don’t know why my keyboard is so sensitive tonight repass my typos it’s all good yeah and Martine says yes that’s why I choose melanated doctors my former employer tried me put me out of service because my Afro they keep telling me I
Need to straighten my hair y wow it’s very important for sisters to know and I I’ll stand on this for a second hot second like the uh continue with with the topic here it’s very important for African-American women and African-American men to choose a doctor who look like
Them something close to them yeah you know ask all the questions you need to ask and you know whatnot because these people out here telling you anything anything if I listen to some of those doctors that I had initially you know when this when the situation took place with me I be dead
But now yeah and it’s important because different things look different on our skin enema looks different than us rashes look different so they have to pull up and for the record have a black neurologist have a black workout partner and so forth down the line black all black everything yeah Xavier’s uh
Position is a black woman from Africa lover to death exactly exactly go ahead I’m sorry tonight’s topic is about white leadership no it’s not it’s about men it’s about Men’s Leadership um and women ‘s knowledge of Oppression by men right I want to touch I want to touch on
I’m glad that slash brought that up because I really want to touch on the question I asked you earlier what up how much of that do you think is influenced the the black are very much influenced by this and how they mirror the oppressor you have to mirror the oppressor in order to
Survive indeep look at how we rais look at the generational trauma uh that came out of how we raised our children out of slavery right right the whole look at me when I speak to you because if you didn’t look at a at the white if you didn’t look in the
Direction where the white person was asking you to you would you would get beaten right right look at people who still move out of the way on sidewalks when a white person com down if you don’t frankly as we uh we always do here on uh the
Conversation black men we got to play some of that at your doorstep we gotta play some of that at your door step was when D initially called me with this I didn’t know she was going this way but sorry guys I agree with what what are you being sorry for sometimes
People need to hear about themselves right it’s not all the guys out there the most of the guys out there who it doesn’t involve aren’t worried about it yeah and we you know I always call those guys average guys yeah so th those are the average guys I’m talking to when uh
Yeah I get it I get it Martine says yesterday this guy said it’s difficult to meet a man it’s difficult to if it’s difficult to meet a man the one we help to meet and like Zary and something go on and get with him he said because
There’s no man who can be with just one woman yeah right they’ll say that we’re lying about our level of pain yeah it’s um when when you sit down and think about it and how women have to um change up how they’re doing when we’re dealing
With men and people are like well why is that I’m like because women are the oppressed ones right and that’s why they have to do it you do the same so glad that you’re reiterating this I’m so glad that you’re reiterating this I’m so glad that you’re actually repetitive on that
Oppressing thing because I mean it’s real it’s definitely real and honestly to be honest with you I truly believe that these average men don’t even know they’re Maring that they don’t know it they have no idea because that’s what Society is talked them exactly for one in order for
You to to see what you’re doing wrong you have to reach the higher level of yourself yeah and for an average man is very it’s a hard Ro to travel well look at look at the if you go on Tik Tok and if a if a guy is talking about uh being
Kind to women men will call him a s like exactly to be kind to somebody just being a decent human being like remember the other day I said the virus so low people are digging under it yeah hey did you see that did you see that tape I cut on that
I yeah I got I got some hate mail so you know I just read it and laugh because the truth though is the truth that they’re digging under they’re digging under the bar it’s the truth the truth is the truth like some of the things like are
Just bare minimum like there’s a there’s a joke going around that um if you’re going on a date tell her to guess where she’s going and that’s where you take her right instead of planning stuff El because obviously planning something that would be too difficult right like bare
Minimum I get it hey what’s going on fad entertainment hey how you doing out of St Louis yeah uh Martine says only goofy dudes rever to women as masculine aggressive because she has a voice shake my head slash says often it’s a survival tactic leadership comes in many forms Church leadership different
Organizations frat cities and social pleasure clubs neighborhood organizations and associations one more time let me I didn’t catch that said often it was a survival tactic leadership comes in many forms Church leadership don’t even get me started different organizations frat sororities social and pleasure clubs neighborhood organizations and associations surf most of
Those have a lot of repression involved within them again I have to agree I have to agree I have to church leadership Church leadership they’re the most impressive most of the most oppressive group there is yeah you I get talk about the deacons and and I’m talk I’m not even talking
About the messy stuff going on in church I’m just talking about stupid stuff that people do like people will take somebody who who husband’s had an affair and then put the wife up on the Altar and blame her so let’s let’s let’s hover around let’s hover around the black man
Mirroring the oppressor that’s why he’s treating the average black man is Mir and the oppressor and that’s why she he’s treating her like that way that’s why he’s treating let’s hover around that for a second there’s a lot of history behind there though like there’s a lot of
History going back to slave days going back to um field hands versus house hands uh breaking in bucks and splitting up families there’s so much behind there um and here’s the thing you have great black leaders and then you have ones who are in leadership roles who we should
Question exactly right and the problem is when we as a society um in the black community when somebody gets a leadership role if somebody doesn’t respect them or somebody questions them they then people go well you have to respect your elders and you’re not allowed to question
People and then when PE people find out things then it’s like oh well that’s it like look at bill um Bill Cosby the man admitted in a deposition to drugging and raping women and people like oh that’s just a big man trying to get him down
I’m like no he’s a rap rap IST stop defending rapists SL coming in out I’m interested in what he’s saying in one sec yet folks sign up from any and all mentioned above and the folks are both men and women let’s really truth we keep it out of
100 are you on are you even on talking about the same topic I am sir like we can we can talk about leadership roles within within the D9 I don’t have any problems with the D9 the fraternities and cities they have some hazing issues they need to sort out
Right but you I’m talking about people who are in leadership roles who are who should not be in leadership roles and expect others to bow down to them solely because they’re in leadership roles right right I’m specifically talking to I’m spe specifically talking to the
Black man I want to know if you are like that if if you are if you feel that way that you know about you know a black woman and whatnot you even given thought about who you’re mirroring well here’s the thing there’s a society has Ma has made um us hating
Ourselves very profitable for themselves right so there’s a lot of self-hate that goes along with um choosing how we treat black women right right black women was one of the most unprotected women right I’m have to age with you that we have to dig a
Little Deeper I think I want to do a part two to this because I had no idea where you were going with this yeah and it’s it’s quite interesting and I agree yeah I agree so the question is again brothers who are you mirroring when you actually putting that woman in her place
And saying all these you know nonsense to and and what have you who who you miroring there’s there’s a lot of people who say things who are just there’s so many Talking Heads that sometimes you shouldn’t listen to some people right and there’s like you go on
Tik to Tik Tok and look at some of the lives and some people should not have a microone because they’re dangerous I agree because some PE 86% of the world does not do any research and if you’re listening to somebody and believing everything they’re saying that’s a dangerous position right so now
The topic the topic actually makes sense to me now how are you leaders and to be to be honest with you when when D called me with this that wasn’t her topic the the title I just wrote it out like that it just kept pushing throughout my day
So my my question is how are you guys leaders when you’re being led by someone who you miror yeah and then that’s a great question for the brothers it’s a real good question for the brothers and then we’ll be careful because we have people who are in
Leadership roles who have a lot of self-hatred who instead of fighting for communities of color will fight against them purposely because of their self-hate Tim Scott listen Scott Tim Scott was on interview so here I’m local to DC so I hear a lot of the local news timot complained about
Being racial profiles going into Congress yet there’s no racism in America Niki let’s be clear I wanna I want to stand ttin toes down on this because I brought his name up for a reason I was completely embarrassed first of all when I saw the clip with the orange guy talking about hating
Nicki and all this other fools and the way he stetch It and Fetch it toward the mic he set us back 500 years and as a black man I was appalled yeah we all shucking and driving exactly shuing and driving for Massa and for and for the folks
Who just just let’s just say it for the gops for the Republicans right if you guys think that if this guy gonna get vice presidency and black people gonna go out and drolls for him think again it’s not gonna happen well that’s the problem they don’t know y don’t know
Y’all don’t know us like y’all think y’all know us listen I I was at a uh rally once and I was walking by it was like a bunch of different political groups U because I’m an independent and I was walking by and they had like the black Republicans and there was no black
Republicans there and I’m like exactly and lady comes up to me um and then I ask questions but they never give you answers for questions that are intelligent exactly because it doesn’t have a talking point yeah that’s that’s that’s my that’s my Hot Topic let’s let’s before
Before I get kicked off here let’s let’s talk let’s see what Martin talking about Martin says oh what’s he talking about not too many guys openly admit that he knows he needs help and that he treats women poorly they feel that they’re doing us women a favor by dating us oh
There’s you you said a whole pile there Martin y that’s true because and that goes back to our conversation we had a few weeks ago about men think they’re the prize right right right let’s let’s get to slash real quick I think he’s comment on what I said embarrassed talking
Taking the entire black race back I vely disagree the black race is not a monolith who said anything about taking the oh that’s what that’s I said that’s what I said no the black race is not a monolith and plenty of us will vote against our own best
Interest there it is there it is 53% of white women voted for Trump and Trump wants to take their their vote their rights away boom yeah here’s the thing when in order to get ahead you have to emulate your oppressor there’s no way around it you have to that’s why my customer service
Voice doesn’t sound like my regular voice right right because I have to whiten it up that’s why I use SL clar clarify this for me slash so are you disagreeing with what I said about Tim Scott clarify that for me brother Martine says lots of guys no
Matter who they are feel that they are the head when they can barely take care of themselves yeah how many how many how many times we seen we make jokes about the the broke boyfriend lean when the woman’s at the GH register paying for everything the broke boyfriend’s got his hand around
Her his hands around her because he got no money we’ had entire conversations about this but here’s the thing leadership now is so so important and who you choose as a leader is important right right the world is falling apart right there’s genocides happening in multiple countries right now
Okay he’s slash responding back to me yeah that’s the leadership they choose they voted for race and class not for the betterment of the country no because here’s the thing they vote for racing class because the society American society tells us that they are the
Reason you are poor it goes back to um the southern strategy right who wasn’t that said that um as long as they can convince the poor white man that the black man is his problem they will always vote for them somewhere along that lines yeah this is
This is repeat that again um as long as they convince the poor white man that the black man is against is the problem they’ll vote for him all the time that’s yeah that was um that was old boy that came after Kennedy yeah so here’s the thing I was what’s his
Name His Name Escapes me what’s his name the one that came back actually he was in Kennedy’s Administration joh Johnson that’s Lyndon B Johnson that’s who actually said that so here’s the thing I I got some the other day we’re talking about uh the right to return for
Israel and Palestine right right and then they started going on IL illegal illegal immigrants I’m like well I thought you were all for the right to return like what do you mean I said well if Mexicans are going back to Texas and that it was their land prior to Texas
Being there so you should be good with that exactly they’re like well no I’m not they change the rules when it’s not in their favor I said oh so it’s when your land people want back you’re not in favor of it but when it’s somebody else’s land you’re all for it right so
Let’s get back to let’s get back to the topic here I’m gonna keep on asking this question until we’re done tonight right how are you leaders Brothers when you’re miroring what you’re seeing by treating these women the way you treat them talking to them the way
You talk to them and talking down to them and not letting them have their share are you mirroring the other side Brothers oh that’s a question for you guys because I want to come back and do this topic again again I had no idea that coach D was actually gonna go that
Way with the topic because we didn’t talk about it oh she said I got a topic for messy Sunday I didn’t know it was this messy but I’m interested in I’m interested I’m interested in it I’m interested in getting dirty with it listen mess Sunday’s all about mess but here’s the thing
Um yeah he’s talking about Tim Scott the guy from South Carolina which was a capital of the sou anointed appointed propped up just like he was on stage with agent orange listen I don’t think anybody realizes that Tim he’s not gonna pick Tim scotf Noah that ain’t happening um I’m trying to
Remember Tim Scott’s girlfriend is related to somebody in politics you talk about the girl he just got engaged with yeah I don’t believe in that long if if if if he’s really gonna marry that Kobe gonna get up and talk I don’t believe that at all I don’t believe that
Relationship at all no he’ll marry her I’ll have to look up who she’s related to because she’s related to some in politics I forgot who slash says our great Elder alaj Malik El shabaz asked who taught you to do and think like that you finally on track now
Son be nice be nice shout out to Malcolm X shout out to Malcolm X I am a big fan of Malcolm X anybody knows me and actually to be honest with you you and slash have that in common because he’s a huge fan of Malou Max huge
Fan I don’t know why he doesn’t why you having some issue with it right now but you know it’s when we look at um leadership is so important and we need to look at our leaderships our leaderships needs to be empathetic they need to be compassionate they need to look out for everybody’s
Interests right I but too often we have we we pick the loudest room the loudest speaker in the room so so we’re coming up on three before the hour ladies and gentlemen coach D just gave me a taste of my own medicine when she does these
Topics well when I do the topics I really don’t say I just sent it at the last minute so she caught me slipping and it was a good one so was good for the goose it’s good for the G I guess as they say but it’s a good one real good
One I really want to touch on this uh some more more elaborate on these brothers that’s who I’m interested in I’m interested in knowing what they’re thinking and have they even thought about who they’re mirroring when they treat women that way they don’t care I’m G gather some brothers up and
We’re gonna talk about it see if I can get them to to uh engage with us definitely next Sunday they will be this this is a good one this is real good guarantee you I’m going to get some hate mail from this or more than sure I guarantee
It I’m trying to remember Brothers if you’re gonna email and with the hate mail keep it respectful please oh no I tell them about themselves so I don’t have to worry about it gota that they should be careful uh to block their IP addresses because I can track you down easily
Some of you AR bright enough to use an anonymous email right right right I got hate mail guy use his whole full name I’m like sir slash coming in h uh so you mean to tell me he went out and found his Disney princess just to play a part in political theater once
Again trying to Swindle us into the American KK Can Dream wake up like Doc screamed sir you if you didn’t think he was going to do that you haven’t paying attention to that man at all no he’s he’s agreeing with me he’s he’s agreeing with it he’s agree dway you know I have
To translate what when slash types in yeah he’s agreeing with me I’m trying to I am trying to remember who she’s related to oh that’s GNA bother me she’s related to somebody else in politics yeah say like Cat Williams said she’s a plant Cat Williams causing all kinds of
Trouble I love it though I love it because he’s speaking truth to power listen here people never like the truth tellers exactly never like the truth tellers and then I had Martin’s going in here let’s let’s let’s catch up on her real quick says some days I’m hopeful
Then I see what’s happening decide to go back into the wings yeah it’s it’s it’s sad because there are a lot of really great guys out there but they get pushed off to the side because the the numpties are the ones that people hear about all the time right
Right let’s quick let’s get to a teachable moment from coach D here before we get off before we get let the Instagram folks go appreciate you guys for always tuning in and checking us out wherever you are in the world appreciate that and as always you can actually
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199 go ahead yeah so here’s the thing that um choose your leaders based on who they are not based on What’s between their legs a penis does not mean that you’ll be a good leader I get it my teachable moment for tonight is I’m asking this I’m gonna form this
Question again for next week Brothers have you given thought to who you’re mirroring when you treat these women treat these black women talk down to them the way you’re handling them the the disrespect have you given thought to who you’re mirroring that’s be question that’s GNA
Be the question for next week are you GI have you given thought to who you’re mirroring you treat these women like you’re treating them specifically treating black women wrong so we’ll talk about it we’ll definitely talk about it I’m very interested in that topic so want to
Close this out coach D because actually one after the hour oh sorry yeah I to get Mr Man sorted out because he won’t leave his computer if I don’t tell him to get he’s a little behind in the shower so give him a break give him a
Break he’s a good kid but he’s he’s a 10-year-old boy y’all are difficult anybody who said raising Sons is easy is not doing it right and with that said here’s the thing when when you’re choosing people to emulate make sure you’re choosing them for the right reasons boom make sure that when you’re
Mirroring people you’re mirring them for the right reasons and that compassion and empathy and being a decent human being are not that hard exactly let tell you so I’m so interested in I’m so interested in this topic on next week I really really want to get into this topic I really do
Because the topic that you put on the table got me looking at Brothers a little what the side of who they miring who they actually don’t side eye them because we’ll talk about the trauma the trauma behind it next week good stuff good stuff so we appreciate you guys Co
And I appreciate you guys for always tuning in as K say around the world United States and abroad we really appreciate that from Canada to France wherever all over appreciate that really appreciate the support Co love your hug yeah love your hug your loved ones tight say good night
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