[Applause] uality I do believe that we’re all connected in that Essence and that’s why we can see each other as as equal human beings on this planet and you know as we work together and work in service and live in service to others that’s when you’re seeing God in another person
You’re loving them and appreciating them and you’re living a good life for service in that way whether we understand him to be just a single being that is separate from us or if we understand them as being a part of us I think that the same the message is the
Same of that we should you know be in communion with each other and be understanding not NE in my in my belief I wouldn’t be like in a subservient form to what I believe is God but I would want to embody that and see it in others okay I can understand and appreciate
Understand I can understand and appreciate so can I can I appreciate your um the feeling towards other human beings or another form of Creation in which the empathy The Compassion the kindness that you are talking about connectiveness and so on now that element is common to most of you know
People that talk about religion or spirituality or some kind of belief system or ideology this very very common because human beings want to share this this this the similarity of their understanding because it’s in now our psyche is it’s something hardwired within us anyway this is what we believe
God has instilled within us this natural disposition in which that we know what truth is we know what Justice is and so on the only thing that I would um say the difference between your particular understanding of of of belief system or or reality to ours is we are not an
Expression of our creator we are a creation of our creator at one point we didn’t exist okay the Creator only existed and Creator brought us into existence the fact that he brought us into existence we all already subservient to him in every shape and every way and every way um because my
Life is totally dependent on God bringing me into existence and giving me life so I’m grateful to God already for my life so it’s not like I’m equal to God or God is equal to me no I’m already subservient because I didn’t have life imagine now to give you a a very mundane
Example um I was in an accident in a hospital needed blood you gave me blood right and I regain Consciousness and I realize this is what you’ve done I could have died without blood blood loss you saved my life so I should be grateful to you so I morally inde
Debt to you I’m only in debt I’m not equal to you anymore I’m I’m in debt because you saved my life and I’m grateful my response to you should be one of gratitude and thankfulness when I am created and given life I’m already in debt to God I’m not
Equal to God anymore yeah so not only he’s given me life he’s giving me all the other faculties to enjoy life to express my love and and all the thing that we just discussed about you know how human fraternity and unity and Brotherhood and Sisterhood this is God
Instilled within us to operate in this life so I’m thankful I should be thankful to God so in this sense Islam says you know God is our lord lord is someone who created us fashioned us and guides us and looks after us in a way okay um in
Okay so God is the one who you know fashioned us and guides us and so on so we in that perspective there already a form of creation who can never consider equality with God never because I would have been non-existent if God didn’t bring me life I would now fall dead if
I’m not able to breathe in oxygen if I don’t drink enough water I will die so I’m so much in debt to God if I were to count the blessings that God has given me I would not be able to count His blessings even my heartbeat if I were to
Thank God for every single heartbeat I would never be able to do so because even before I was born I had heartbeat in the womb of my mother and I had heartbeats which you know I had to go back and which I could not to be thankful of so we cannot be enough
Grateful and thankful to God for what he’s given us so the idea of you know we are all equal in theide of God share and and celebrate this unity and spirituality is actually not in in in in in real SS positions correctly our position should be one of understanding who we
Are to who God is you and I will pass away one day we will die for sure whether you are spiritually highly enough or not we know our physical bodies will disintegrate and we will die our souls may live on but they would still need if if you believe um to live
Forever for example some kind of physical means or in a spiritual means and so on we believe our souls that has been created will live even to the next life but again dependent on God God is ultimately the one who is in owner of it
Controll of it that’s why we say he is the Malik of Y the owner of the day of judgment in which Every Soul that has been brought into this existence has to account for their deeds and their belief were there the things that you expressed were you good to
Others or were you not and there people who are not they kill they rape they torture they oppress they steal and these people if they don’t mend themselves if they don’t Rectify themselves and they live their life and they die that’s not justice so there
Will be a day of judgment we believe in Islam in which everyone will account for their actions and their belief and based on that they will be place of paradise or hell hell place of torment and suffering which they made themselves deserved by disobeying God’s commands and his prohibitions God doesn’t prohibit things
Which are good God doesn’t ask us to do something command us or something evil God commands all that is good prohibits that something’s bad for us so even from a commense perspective people should have followed it those who don’t do that in the day of judgment they would then deserve the
Justice and be accountable for their wrong things that they have done not following what God commanded but those who do those who do do the good actions be charitable be nice be just be truthful be compassionate be merciful don’t cheat don’t lie don’t kill don’t murder don’t rape all of
These things that you got commanded and you keep them avoid the bad God has given us Glad Tidings of Paradise in is this joy peace contentment Tranquility happiness this is what we are aiming for we aiming for in this life happiness and well-being but the highest form of our
Aim should be not only happiness in this life we say oh God our Lord give us the good in this life as well as the Hereafter because Hereafter is the ultimate Abode in which there is life forever this life is only a momentary life I have a
Question do you believe that if you were to pass on to the next life if you’ve died but your spirit lives on do you think you’d come back as a human being or a different form of being for example it could be an animal or a plant but it
Could also be maybe somewhere out in the universe there could be another species of of being that lives out there do you think you could be reincarnated into a completely different sure being we do not believe in reincarnation we do not believe in reincarnation we believe there’s one
Life MH and then there is a next life and that’s it there there is no cycle of birth and death because that whole idea of cycle and birth even philosophically it’s not very coherent because think about it you reincarnate into something good because of your previous actions or into bad because of
Your previous actions what about children that like you know a four-year-old boy who knows the entire life story of someone that he’s never known or met before but can still recall memories and stories about a past life that they have experienced and a four-year-old child wouldn’t lie but there’s many of these experiences
Documented as if they had pull from a consciousness of a previous life or perhaps if they’re connected in some way they might even have the same physical attributes or characteristics so that’s why I think a lot of people do believe in reincarnation because there’s that aspect that there there are many many
Stories of this happening so part of me wants to believe and does believe that reincarnation in some form does exist maybe that Soul had a tragic end to the life and didn’t get to complete what they me they might have been meant to complete in that Lifetime and then they
Came back I feel like I’ve heard so many stories like this that it’s hard for me to believe that we just have this one Earthly experience I believe that we’re Spiritual Beings having a human experience and this is one of the greatest tests is one of the greatest
Tests for our Spirits our eternal spirit to transcend to be in a place of like Bliss forever so I think that maybe there might be more than one try for some people especially if you born into really really difficult circumstances I feel like your circumstances at Birth
May heavily affect the way that you live in service to God or to to whatever belief system you have so that’s what I think I think that it’s it’s very possible that we could come back more than once and I don’t know if there’s necessarily one place that we go to but
It could be that we change into different forms of existence in the future like what if we came back as like a different kind of being like an alien being or something something that we can’t fully comprehend because we’re only humans we’re using our human brains to notice the world around us to
Understand the world around us and yet we know that there are animals that can see colors that we can’t see we know we can only see a small part of the visible light spectrum and we can only really experience the third dimension so I think that there’s a lot that we cannot
Experience that does exist around us and there is that like mystery aspect so I’m always wary of making up my mind about what I think is going to happen in the Beyond after death because I don’t believe humans are capable of fully understanding that but while we’re here
Being in service to others and loving others is the is the point that almost every spirituality I’ve ever known of gets to that that point that’s the thing that we all share living in service to one another to love another person is to
See the face of God it is to it is to serve another person and to to live a good life to love those that are around you and I I’ve I’ve had trouble with the the idea I appreciate that you explained the idea of like servitude if I was
Given life and that’s something that you’re endlessly grateful for that you’ll never be able to really be fully thankful for but I think that you could be simply by living a good life and appreciating everything around you as it’s valid and worthy of of love and attention and respect whether there it
Be a tree or a park where you don’t want to throw your plastic trash on the ground because the Earth is something that was a gift it wasn’t something that was if we were created and put here on this earth the earth is something we should be preserving and loving as as
Much as another person and that’s that’s that’s where I think it’s more of a holistic thing I don’t find myself in prayer to a single being but I do find myself in presence and calm and and relationship to the things that are around me the things and the people that
Are around me and I think we get to the same conclusion although it’s two different ways of of appreciating life I feel like this isn’t the first time that I’ve been here I don’t think that this is the first life I’ve ever had okay so
If I if I may I mean I appreciate what you’re saying um just to say I mean in fact a lot of things you said towards the end you’ll be surprised these are the Islamic core values core values in which looking after the environment is so essential like one of the signs of
Faith is actually removing a thorn From the Path so that it’s free for other people being hurt for them to be safe yeah to look out for others yeah one of the branches of Faith this what it is looking after the animals and the plants I mean we cannot even in Warfare
Sometimes when it’s a necessity right we cannot go for example in fighting a war because of all this necessity and then you destroy their corpse the crops and their totally forbidden MH so Islam Islam I’m just giving you an example even to like something like you might
Say in a Warfare you destroy everything of your enemy he said no absolutely not you don’t destroy the cattle the the the the Farms nothing they had nothing to do with your you know the differences that you’re having war with so Islam ask you to treat holistically the word you use
Everything in the creation in fact let me give you one two examples there was a prostitute who was of course selling her body for a living which you know in in God’s uh ways not acceptable to live your life accordingly God has given you a life not to sell your body
Okay at one point she saw a Thirsty Dog almost dying of thirst she went to a wall well and quenched The Thirst of the dog our Prophet Salli wasallam said because of that God has forgiven her and she go to paradise just showing how by showing kindness and mercy to
Animals so Islam is not such that it’s a belief system in which you just look at a human beings welfare no you look after the environment in fact you know we are told that not to even pollute the air and and the water and the land and so on
Because it’s a huge burden that we’re placing so all of the things that you talk about how to look after the whole world around you is a part and parcel of Islamic teaching coing right good so you can connect to that already the thing about a four-year-old boy
Knowing a lot of things collecting and so on with all due respect right I of course I disagree with this idea that we have established way where we have verified some people recounting the past lives and so on and so forth we hear lots of stories just like we hear
Stories of pastors coming on the stage and they see someone on the wheelchair and says stand up and walk and they keep walking that’s literally an actor that was planted in the a audience but I mean the the story of the four-year-old boy is actually very well documented and
Studied and they found exactly who the person was down to like he was like a German soldier in World War II who crashed in a in a plane he landed in Britain and like lost his leg during the accident and like the child even had a a
Strange birth mark above the same leg that he lost and he remembered he drew pictures of all of the medals that this particular Soldier had and he even resembled him and they found it’s impossible for him to have known this and it’s impossible for him to know why
Is impossible for him to known this because he was a four-year-old child raised mostly at home with his mother and father who weren’t German why is it impossible for this connection to have known that information and to Fed that to give you an example I don’t think it’s impossible
I’m say I’m saying I I think that these I think that these things that seem impossible are the things that keep me openminded to not fully believing in one system or another I think there’s a what I’m saying is many of the things we know we know just like example of the stage
On a wheelchair of a Christian Pastor for example to a Christian mindset that’s a miracle they don’t see past that they would not be able to see easily past that they would say no it’s a miracle so there’s some kind of um it’s not cognitive dissonance it’s something opposite in which they cannot
See that actually this could have been manipulated and tricked because of the particular World viw in which the engulfed wi so that leads them to accept that quite easily likewise someone who is spiritual and has an understanding of reincarnation to be a possibility and so
On it will be easy for them to say yeah a for can know that but for a Critic a critical minded individual we say okay is it impossible for them no is it impossible for them to have known by connection from others feeling that information um because nowadays for
Example we can get a four-year-old 5-year-old six-year-old giving lectures about human relation between man and wom How to have conduct sexual relation and so on because they can be all taught that they can memorize it on taught they can be taught in terms of how to say
This and so on whether it’s the parents by themselves and so on so you cannot simply take that to be because it’s all well documented and so on if that was the case reincarnation is possible as a belief system it shouldn’t be just one individual you should be for example you
You me me and others we should all somehow regain that previous memory why not what’s stopping us I think that it may be specific to people who have had traumatic deaths or something like that what’s stopping us from recollecting our past life if there was a past life and I
Also think that the point that you’re getting at is if we’re not to believe others like lived experience in the way that they’re just saying it because they could just be telling a story then what we really should be believing is our own lived experience and what the truth that
We can derive from that which is why I take issue in when someone writes something down and then says that it is the word of God I have trouble with that because it’s the same thing but there’s difference between the Quran by the way we can we can highlight that sure but
Like but if you do take the time to write down words and then sell it as truth to people evidence then it could be the same thing as someone making up a story about their four-year-olds having a past life experience when you make a comparison when you have when and and
The way that I feel about my spirituality is being grounded in this present moment and feeling the life that vibr around me and experiencing love and Bliss and experiencing the contrast of life that’s the true lived experience what stops you from recollecting your past memory I think that we’re all human
Beings with amnesia I think that we don’t remember why not I don’t I don’t think that we can I don’t know that it’s natural for us to always remember if we had a past life why have we forgotten about it is it in your soul already it
Could be that God is trying to understand himself or themsel Through The Eyes of every living being on this Earth and so each time we’re born into a life we’re collecting more information to understand what it is to be alive and what it is to experience and to feel are
You saying God is the one who makes you forget your past life I think so okay so now you have a system in which God forgets your past life or God says you this is the one life and the next life so now it’s a no no we have we have a
Competing belief system in which God is controlling you to not remember your past life or God is telling you actually you have one life and you have a next life and so on then all comes down to now which version of God’s teaching is correct because ultimately now we have a
Computing theories or competing belief system Quran offers falsification test of its divine origin so any any information or guidance or a scripture which says this is from God it tells you about reincarnation or tells you about one life and Hereafter and so on we need to see what evidence does it provide us
To be convinced of it Quran says if this book was from any other than God it gives you falsification just number one number two and so on it tells you you can m match or imitate a chapter like un to it if it wasn’t from God any
Piece of literature any book of uh linguistic um work whether it’s Pro Pros or poetry or any form of literature you should be imitate it Style Shakespeare is imitated if you ask CH GPT it will imitate Shakespeare the Quran is such that people have tried since knowing that challenge of the Quran
Falsification test of the Quran they can’t imitate it because objectively the Quran came in is such a linguistic structure it is impossible for people to imitate it to give you an example because language may be something that you don’t appreciate um see those buildings over there they’re made of stones and Bricks
If you are an architect and a good one and I told you you can’t make a building like mine and you would say why is it impossible I’m the best architect in town I can make exactly like yours I mean just show me your your building say okay there you go
You can design it you can make it but I bring my building have a look at it all of my building it has bricks but every brick is not touching with each another brick it’s floating in space every single brick not touching with each other would you be able to make a
Building like that even the best architect in town it’s like this stick but every single part of it is like floating in space you can actually put your hand through like this I mean if technically if you’re thinking in terms of like atoms and molecules everything really isn’t
Touching no no I’m talking about the bricks brick you can see the brick you can put your hand through hold are you asking if that’s possible I’m saying this is my building and I say imitate something like that make like something like it I would probably doubt that you
Actually made something like that if I had a building like that would you be able to imitate it you would not be able probably not unless you came up with some kind of technology that I’m unaware of if I did bring a building like that you with your current knowledge of
Architecture you would not be able to make it no architect today is able to make a building the pyramids no the building that I said the building I said yeah we can make the pyramids today no problem no we could not no if you understand the math about the pyramids
You nobody there’s a reason why no one’s tried since the way it’s so perfectly people made replica of pyramids exact replicas no but they didn’t actually make a pyramid so they the blocks are far too heavy and they’re so precise you saying we don’t have the cran laser in
Between those stones and it’ll go straight through are you saying we do not have I don’t think that human beings understand my point are you saying today we don’t have powerful cranes to build to to transfer a brick or stone as heavy as the pyramids and then make a pyramid
I don’t think that we could use we could come up with a technology that mimicked what they done no no we’re not talking about mimicking technology we’re talking about making that product well I’m not understanding because you’re you’re asking if you did something impossible I will explain a little bit
Better pyramid example is I’m not asking you with the same technology they had saying can you make a product like the pyramid I say yes we can possible easy can you make a Quran a chapter like the Quran the answer is no and why not is because of the way the Quran is
Constructed in its language don’t you find that to be a bit ethnocentric though because expl validating everybody else I will I will explain to you why when you look at a analogy of a building in which every architect can make a building when they’re touching with each other bricks and stones touching with
Each other but they can’t make a building in which bricks and stones are floating in space with the current technology it’s impossible so the Quran chapter of the Quran or Surah is such that this is how it’s constructed you can’t make something like it why it’s impossible because Quran is offering
This as a falsification test if you don’t want to believe that this is not from God you can make something like it the fact that you can’t then it forces you to accept that this book is indeed from the creator of the heavens and the Earth because this is impossible for
Anyone else to construct or to even recite it like that to to come with the the Quran that is why I’m saying when you have two competing or many competing theories about God and reincarnation what do The Reincarnation Believers offer as a form of proof of their particular knowledge and guidance
From their cre well I suppose it depends how much have you studied other religions well a few quite um sufficiently well yeah I mean obiously I’m not I’m not going to pretend to understand like the full belief system of someone who believes in in fre Incarnation like somebody who might be
Hindu for example sure have they given you any have they offered you any proof well I think it’s it’s the same kind of thing with Islam or Christianity not I just give you an example where Islam offers proof here’s the example Islam might say that we live one life you like
You were telling me earlier if you live a good life you would go on to to heaven to another way of a higher plan of of existence and and Bliss and there would be Beauty there or you could suffer and go to hell that’s a statement that’s a statement back with this evidence
But I fail to see where the evidence is because if you’ve only lived One Life how could you possibly know what comes after it the evidence that that statement is true is Prov that no no no the the statement whether it has a truth value or not is back with evidence for
The book whether it’s from God or not so if the book is demonstrated it’s from God then whatever it says you know it’s a truth statement so when you have Hindus or Buddhists who believe in reincarnation if you ask them where do you get that from or from their
Scripture which one this scripture and if you ask them what evidence does your scripture provide that this is from God and you will find the struggle because if they’re not able to provide evidence proof that this scripture is from God then that statement that it offers you about
Reincarnation how do you know it’s true or not you can’t but once you affirm a book or a scripture is from God information that it says one life and next life you know it’s true because it’s from God have you ever spent time sitting in a forest in complete silence
No no I highly recommend it that that’s direct information from God right there
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