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Back joining us here in the secret place so as you know we are in a series of exposing truth shedding light on the Divine n the nphc black Greek letter organizations whatever you want to call them we are really on a mission to shed light and expose the truth so that many
Can be set free um so today I am joined by my brothers Minister Tommy I got my brother Shahed with us today and they are going to talk about their journey of renouncing and denouncing Omega SFI Fraternity Incorporated I’m excited today this is going to be a powerful testimony because these brothers are
Actually from the same chapter they pledged at the same school or part of the same chapter so we just know that this is going to be even more truth even more just agreement about why these organizations are not of God and so I’m excited to have these two brothers here
Today with us again before we get started just to emphasize our intent here is not to bash any individuals who are in these organizations but instead just to shed light on the truth so many of us when we join these organizations we’re on a aware of the Oaths and the
Covenants and the agreements that we are vocalizing with our mouths during the process so again we do this in love but with the desire that many will come into truth so we boldly take a stand against what is evil what is wicked and we call out the works of the enemy today so
Before we go ahead and jump in this conversation I’m g go ahead and let my brothers introduce themselves give us a quick introduction and then we are going to go ahead and get started so Minister Tommy I will go ahead and kick it over to you first all right thank you so much
Uh Ash again just a a tremendous honor and privilege uh to be able to be with all of you all uh today I’m super excited that I’ve got my brother Shahed with us um my name is again Minister Tommy Arbuckle um I pledge the fraternity in
The spring I’m sorry in the fall in the spring of 1995 uh at the prayview anim University uh just like Shahid did so again thank you looking forward to this time amen amen and my name isah Johnson I pledge at priew A&M under the road Theta chapter of Omega sacii and I came
Over in Spring 2017 I was actually born in 95 uh Minister Tommy so it’s crazy wow we got we got some history here on the line some similar experiences um so I’m I’m excited to get going we know that many brothers and even sisters are
Going to be set free from the truth of God today so Minister Tommy can you just kind of tell us what led you to joining Omega what were you you know what led you to joining the fraternity in the first place sure you know great question
Um my brother my older brother uh was actually five years older than me um had joined uh Omega and I remember one day he came home with a bunch of paraphernalia you know clothes and stuff and he was like listen whatever you do don’t put this stuff on and uh you know
I mean you talking to a young kid I put that stuff on you know what I mean because I of course I looked up to my brother and I didn’t other than him I didn’t know much about the organization um so uh it was really you know an
Opportunity for me to join an organization where my brothers also a part of it uh to try to really get closer with him because there was such a you know fiveyear gap between us much of my life was spent uh I say hanging out with my sisters and so U because he was
So much older older than me uh when I actually got to pray review he was in his last year I was in my first year so it meant a lot to me to be able to to connect with him in some you know some way or another and Omega just you know
Happened to be that that item yeah that’s good so how about you brother Shahid what led you to crossing over in Q SFI absolutely um so first um being on campus I was the first uh person in my family go school and to graduate so I was exposed to Greek life
Right whenever I got to campus I had no you know knowledge of it prior to going to school so um in my first year I started to cut hair that’s how I ended up paying for school Etc and along doing so I met a lot of people who were
Actually in Greek letter organizations and the BR or the Omega men uh those were the guys that I just kicked it with the most I found most of my closest friends to be uh Brothers of Omega SFI so um you know and then I love the caderie and just being around it just
Made you always feel like you know being at Grandmama’s house you know with the different events and stuff and how the hospitality and stuff was so that kind of Drew me to the organization itself okay gotta so yeah I feel like a lot of us have the same kind of story and for
Those who are maybe your first time I’m not former member of Omega SciFi but I was a former member of Kappa alasi and we all kind of have this this idea that you know this Brotherhood is going to be the Brotherhood that we were all kind of
Innately longing for um because you know the Lord did did create us with the desire to be in fellowship and especially as men you know we have a longing for Brotherhood for fellowship with other brothers and these fraternities they do have an allore of you know having these lifelong brothers
Having brothers that’ll have your back through anything thick and thin you know brothers that’ll support you brothers that’ll have your back so that is a big pool especially for those of us who grew up maybe you know without brothers or we know a lot of you know a lot of men grow
Up without Father Figure so even that ends in the Lord to have these men who will help you in your career or you know it’s supposed to help you in your faith and just really help you to become a man so that is a big commonality you know
Between men that are joining these fraternities all right so now that you guys are on campus you have the interest um you know can you kind of walk me through what is the what is the interest process like for you um you know and as you started to gain interest what was it
Like to express interest to the brothers and then what what were some of the steps that you had to go to even just to get online in the first place you want me to go first sure okay yeah so for me I’m sure this is probably different for Shahid because when I got
To the campus and um uh started going there the chapter was on suspension so they were on suspension um for five years um you know I started you know at perview in 1991 and they had been suspended they started in the 90 when the 90 line went over so for
Me it was you know you couldn’t really um what I you couldn’t go through anything uh while they were kind of in this suspension period until for I remember maybe I don’t know three years before maybe in 1993 um you know there were a few I would call you know remaining you know
Omegas that are still on the chapter and would have like these uh what do they call them sets cookouts or something and you know you would go to an event so any time Omega had an event you would go to the event you know what I mean and um
You know if they ask you to bring some bring some chicken bring some beer or whatever you know you would bring those things uh but there to me there wasn’t any commitment that you know you were going to get an opportunity to to join those organization because they knew
That they were under suspension um eventually I I think it was around the 90 about the 94 1994 um you know they started what I call being a little bit more active you they would have an info session or something and then they would have these events again where they would just kind
Of call people over you know hey you you know you know somebody want to be you know Omega tell them come over here bring some chicken and bring some beer and to me it was more like a they were using us you know what I’m saying you
Know you and you don’t know like you don’t know that you’re trusting word you’re trusting hey yeah we’re going to have a line I know that they say we suspended you know for 5 years but we working on getting that you know reversed and stuff I mean you just
Listening to these guys thinking that they’re telling you the truth you know I mean but in reality they were just using us like to bring them stuff you know I mean and um eventually uh you know an actual line started uh but you know before that it was what I call kind of
Underground stuff you know you know just getting called out of the blue and you thinking that you’re you know you’re like going through a real process but in reality this ain’t no process at all these guys didn’t lied to you just to beat you and get you know get you to
Bring them food bring cook for them I mean you’re actually thinking that you’re going through something but it was totally illegal and um wasn’t going to amount to anything and I’m G take I’ll say this statement too because I think it’s it’s critical to to to
Mention um there were guys that what I would say that were participating in that Underground stuff that by the time it actually they actually got from under suspension and they could actually have a line I mean that Graves was horrible I mean they couldn’t they couldn’t even go
Through the process it’s like so what did you actually gain you know what I mean at the end of the day you can’t even become them Omega because you’re you don’t have the grades to do it yet you went through all that stuff of you know cooking for him and running errands
For him and you know for what yeah so that was that was my you know I’d say my process of you know working to to actually you know get through going through the process yeah and similar to to brother Tommy um you know being around just
Being a good friend a genuine person you know in general and then you know being asked to U you know as you as you develop these these friendships these relationships with the brothers then you know over time they they start having you uh bring stuff over you know it was
Always the and chicken that was a thing and then uh and we were also on suspension at the time too um I came in in 2013 and the that that was the last line prior to the line whenever I crossed in 2017 they were on suspension due to hay
And Etc and uh I actually prolonged my graduation just to be a part because I was supposed to graduate in 2017 I stayed at extra year so I could have that that that oneye undergrad lifestyle we all have experienced and know what that’s about so uh so yeah same same to
Brother Tommy that’s how we kind of got affiliated with the stuff and being interested Etc and then they also had the the interest meetings and stuff which was just kind of ironic because I mean honestly when you look at the history of some of these secret societies there’s nothing that’s really
You know exciting about just reading over the history it’s more so what you can see on the outside you know that draws you to these uh at the community service the parties the chanting the the strolling you know all of those things is what actually draws the person to it
Yeah yeah one thing I mentioned that was kind of unique for me when I think about the the interest side of it my brother was too but after learning about what you know fraternities were you know I was a byproduct of my mother them were
All part of what I call the Civil Rights movements you know what I mean so my generation um a lot of the fraternities and sororities and all those secret societies were kind of all encapsuled inside of that movement and you know then you started finding out like people
That you looked up to like Michael Jordan and uh these individuals that were members of the organization it just that much more like was like oh man I got to be a part of kind of like the same thing you’re like you’re thinking that these Great Men or these you know even your
Teachers or somebody that you looked up mentors they’re in these organization you’re like well man if they’re if they’re in something like that and they’re doing so well and they look at what they’re doing you know and Society man I want to be a part of that you
Know yeah and those are some of the same Reon not to cut you off brother Ashton those are some of the same reasons why um people uh refuse to come out of these things because of these prominent men these these famous athletes uh celebrities in general who are part of
Steve Harvey I mean there tons of them but but yeah Y and recently there’s been such a big push of you know these organizations bringing in honorary members and especially honorary like gospel singers and you know to me in my opinion I think it’s just a work of the
Enemy to influence these organizations to bring in you know these gospel musicians to try because there’s such a big wave of people who are renouncing and denouncing now it’s almost like you know we can get these bigname gospel artists these bigname you know Christians in these organizations they
Can kind of save face and be like oh you know it’s safe for Christians to be here it’s safe but a lot of these honorary members you know they don’t go through any type of pledging process usually they just probably don’t even pay the money they just get sworn in you know
They say I agree to whatever Oaths or whatever are are said and now people are saying oh well if this person’s in it then it’s not that bad so it just really shows like the layers of deception that are in these orgs and like you say you
Know Martin Luther King you know a famous Alpha so it’s almost like you know you can’t say anything about Alpha VI Alpha because M was in it it’s like oh if he did it you know everything’s okay but even just as Believers we have to ask ourselves who is our role model
Is it Jesus Christ or is it you you know a flawed man who’s you know just as susceptible as sent as the next person yeah and the other thing you you you also heard it with the founders you know what I mean you’re like and as a to me
As an African-American male looking at oh man you know this dude created this or this dude you know what I mean that they’re the founders of the organization it it that much more was like man I got to be a part of this because I think as
As an African-American man you like man that’s stuff I want to accomplish that’s stuff I want to do and um you know if they can do it man look at you know I can do it too and oh by the way if I connect with these other brothers that
Are likeminded you know um then then I could you know have some opportunities to do great things too you know yep it’s almost like it’s almost like the found San ising go ahead sh oh yeah sorry about that I was just saying Satan is Crafty he’s cunning you know and and it’s and
You know people when when you’re deceived you don’t even realize you’re deceived you know so it’s it’s just he has an interesting way of drawing people I would even say more specifically lukewarm Believers you know who claim to follow Christ but don’t have like a genuine relationship uh if not even an
Understanding of how that even looks like practically speaking you know a lot of people are so caught up into just being church goers and stuff rather than Church doers that it’s easy to fall for anything because there’s no true foundation yeah that’s good point Shah I’m thinking about when I like you’re
Talking about somebody that’s in their early 20 like you’re 20 years old yeah 21 years old I don’t know about you but I wasn’t spiritually mature at all you know what I mean I was going to the church and still talking about what I was gonna do after I left the church and
Trying to get a girl while I’m in the church I mean it’s like the the maturity level you know of somebody that didn’t really grow up in the church like that you know to even know that you being deceived nah didn’t know it absolutely that’s so true and
You know when you talking about the founders it’s almost like we look at when you’re in the organization it’s like the founders are just so highly regarded and it makes me think of the scripture when we talk about you know the cloud of you know the great cloud of
The W the cloud of witnesses that are cheering us on and you know these great role models of faith and it’s like that’s how the founders are revered as these cloud of witnesses that we’re supposed to you know try to make proud proud and everything you know to honor
The legacy of the founders but it’s like that’s not the Legacy that we want to leave our children you know as people who believe Jesus Christ we should be honoring Jesus Christ we should be wanting to walk like Jesus did not you know Elder Watson Diggs or whoever
Because these men are flawed and like you said so many of these young children they’re not reading their Bible you know they’re not filled with the Holy Spirit at that time they’re not sounding Doctrine and theology to know that how these things are you know really contradicting the word of God and it
Gets even trickier when you have pastors and ministers who are promoting these organizations and you know grooming these children from young age because I don’t know about Omega but Kappa it’s um you know it’s Kappa League so you know you have programs where young boys who
Are in high school or middle school can begin to you know learn about Kappa and be mentored by Kappa so by the time they get to College they already have connections to Kappa and it’s almost like easier to get into the organization so it’s almost like child grooming to a
Certain degree that is exactly what what is happening um it is and to me that’s the deceptic part you know you know grooming a pedophile Grooms a an unexpected Child by Soft touches simple you know saying words and suggestions to gain that child’s trust ultimately to do
You know horrible things to that child and deception you know works the exact same way um you know I tell anybody that inside of deception you’ve got at least probably 80% of truth it’s that other 20% that you you know because you you’re looking at the 80 that you don’t realize
That this other thing is actually affecting you too that you’ve accepted you know what I mean and so your spot on it is exactly grooming the younger they get you know you know kids you know in touch with somebody that’s in the organization by the time you get older
It’s a direct shoot straight into uh the Organization yeah and even I was thinking about like the correlation between the bonds that we make while we’re online it’s similar to like domestic violence victims you know everyone always talks about well why wouldn’t you leave an abusive situation like if somebody’s beating you up in a relationship why wouldn’t you just leave
But the the way that your brain begins to form and the way that you build that you know it’s like a trauma Bond and that’s almost that’s exactly what it is when we go online you know we build these relationships with our Dean or our
ADP and it’s like you it’s just that you are afraid to leave or you just don’t see the reason why you need to leave you’re like no that person really loves me it’s just the way that things have to go just the way that the relationship is
Built but I remember being online and I was like yo I don’t want to see these people after I cross like I don’t want to see my my Dean or my ADP but then after you cross you’re just automatically supposed to forget all the trauma forget all the abuse and just
Like oh we boys you know we Brothers like let’s do everything together now so let’s kind of talk about the experience of being online um so Minister Tommy you mentioned you know you weren’t as spiritually equipped as you are now but even while you both were online did you
Have any red flags about things that were going on during your process so um of course to me the the abuse you knew something was wrong yeah you know I mean to to your point of trauma bonding and you know why don’t you leave well I’m
Not leaving because I don’t want this my my Lon brother to to go through any you know horrific things and you know if I’ve got to be the one to take the take the paddle I’ll take it so he doesn’t then you start protecting you know I
Mean uh those that are there that you don’t want to see them hurt and so you’re like well if I leave they gonna get hurt worse and now you’re in this freaking you know vicious cycle of you know what do I do you know do I stay do
I go I know this is wrong that I’m you know I’m getting beat on um I remember one night uh you know these guys that took us you know to this back road and uh I think this was even before we got online but they they paddled us you know
And I remember coming home my wife wife who was my girlfriend at the time um I was just taking my clothes off and I didn’t realize that she was behind me watching me you know but to hear her like start crying because my body was just purple you know purple and blue
From just being beat and um to watch her like and I’m and I’m sitting there like oh my God like I didn’t you know I didn’t know she she saw that you know what I mean and I’m now I’m trying to like protect okay I
Don’t want you to to know this this and you know and I don’t want you to get involved because if you get involved then you know my lion brother going to get hurt and you know I mean it’s it’s just a nasty uh horrible cycle of evil I mean
Be honest with you so uh you know that part was the part that I I’d say outside of everything else you know it was the red flag but to your point you know you’re in it and you know I’m looking at my brother and he’s like I see him he
Went through it he’s on the other side of it so in your mind you’re thinking okay this won’t last always you know what I’m saying this is only so long it’s you know it’s greater later I mean you you you you got all this other stuff in your head that’s they’re trying to
Convince you just stay it’s it’s okay it’s okay you know I mean you know they they love you but you know they beat you but I mean it’s you’re conflicted highly conflicted um with with those kind of thoughts yeah and Capa they tell you weeks of sacrifice for a lifetime of
Paradise so it’s like you know when you want to quit it’s like you know just weeks of sacrifice you’re almost on the you’re almost in kappal land you’re almost in greekdom and you know like you said you don’t want to leave your brothers behind because you you know
You’re supposed to be your brother’s keeper so it’s like you know even if I wanted to drop at one point but it was like you know I can’t leave my ly brothers who are going to finish it so you just get sucked into it and um Shah
I saw your interview that you did a couple years ago with Miss Titus where you even had pictures of how your body looked you know after you were almost finished Crossing and it’s it’s crazy that we I remember I used to take pictures too and it’s like during the
Process you’re almost it’s almost like you you’re proud of you know your scars you’re proud you know look what I endured you know look how uh it’s almost like look at my battle scars look at the Blood Sweat and Tears that I swed into this organization and you know you take
Pride on those type of things of that’s just more of the brainwashing it’s like you know I want to be the rock of the line so for people who may not be familiar with pledging you know there’s a a lot of the ORS they they give the
Term Rock to the person who was able to take the most abuse really the one who was able to endure the most beatings to kind of save the line or just kind of be the rock of the line and you know while you’re pledging it’s like you want to be
That person you want to take the most abuse you want to be able to endure the most in the name of Kappa in the name of Omega and it’s you know it’s just more and more of the deception and the wickedness that we talk about when it comes to these organizations and
Pledging yeah your emotions I’d say this to your emotions and involved as you was talking I was thinking about one of my brother’s line brother you know came up to me and you know he’s sitting there just balling you know man man I love your brother so much I mean you know you
Like to me seeing him you know balling for my brother you know makes you just go okay like man this is you know I mean like I got to hang in here you know what I mean and you know I’m going to have the Same Love you you know but yeah it’s
It’s all a horrible uh delusion of you know how you treat a human being and there’s really no good reason for you to ever do that especially when they’ve already deemed hazing as being illegal and shouldn’t have be happening you know what I mean correct Y and yeah to add to add to
Brother what brother Tommy said I always thought it was interesting that like just from an African-American standpoint how a lot of people complain about slavery and how you know um whites for a lack of better terms you know beat blacks and enslave people and they wanted all this power control and stuff
And I’m like well as it pertains to the bgos we are doing it to ourselves and and but we’re proud about it this time and it’s like it makes no logical sense nobody in their right Minds would ever just sitting their kids off the school and say I mean because you teach your
Kids growing up you know self-defense if somebody hits you you know hit them back so why why is it okay to go to these uh to these colleges you know and to pledge and to allow these beatings and then we take pride in these things and then even
From a humility standpoint when God tells us to be you know Meek to be humble Etc you know being proud of these organizations it conditions you to to be more egotistical if you will you know just later on in life and and and then you have these strongholds it just it
Becomes a bigger mess than what it just initially looks like in in the beginning before you know it you’re in a gang you know what I mean correct I call him an educational gang yeah an educational gang before you know it you’re in a gang and now you’re like
Going to different schools and getting into fights and now you you fighting other people and it’s it’s like a horrible just cycle of and’s crazy I don’t think I know I would say think I know I didn’t see any of that coming like if you asked me when we were
Pledging and when I said I want to join Omega did I think that the end of that journey and would would have us going places and fighting and pulling guns and all that stuff no no I wouldn’t have told you because I I couldn’t see that
Far down down the road but that it’s like gang mentality like literally gang mentality and what’s really crazy is you know your line against the other lines I mean it’s and you’re all on the same yard I mean that’s how demonic this stuff is you’re in the same school and
You just like who does that you know what I mean it’s just it’s crazy now but you know to me for individuals that are still there in that stuff listen to this like that’s you it shouldn’t be that way it should not be that way that’s not
Normal at at all it’s it’s not normal and you know the scripture talks about how Satan has blinded the eyes of the unbeliever and You Know The Enemy he presents himself as an angel of Light and this is how he tricks us like you guys said it’s really like gangs I
Remember a couple years after I crossed um I had our line had just brought in um our chapter had just brought in another line so we had some NEOS that were still in college and you know they got into a big fight with some sigmas on campus all
Because of the issue of who should be able to carry the cane and it’s just like you know we as black men we’re supposed to be uplifting each other there’s this big depiction of Greek unity and it’s like y’all are physically putting hands on each other over
Something as stupid as who should wear can over whose history the can belongs to and it’s like you know in the real world is that something that’s really important that we should be fighting each other over like Kusa where Kane um you know if you go into a an interview
Are you gonna walk out of the interview just because you know the person who’s interviewing you as a sigma and you’re a Kappa it’s like what are we really teaching each other and I know Mega sci-fi mentions the Brotherhood in the friendship between David and Jonathan
And um you know kind of depicts that as the Brotherhood of the fraternity and you know if you study the scripture David and Jonathan they were Covenant brothers so they made a covenant their relationship was based on the foundation of God and doing the will of God together protecting each other for the
Sake of God you know David and Jonathan they didn’t become Covenant Brothers by beating each other up by pledging one another and so it’s just like when we take scripture and we pervert it and we manipulate it and we say this is how Brotherhood is formed like that is not
What God um that’s not his desire when he talks about Covenant brothers and being Brothers in the body of Christ and it’s really like we don’t need these organizations everything that these organizations Proclaim to do it should be found in the body of Christ um itself
And not even you know so many people have you know an a against the church we’re not even talking about the four walls of the church just the body of Christ you know as Believers we should be able to get together and do work for our communities be able to hold each
Other up be able to um even look at the early Church in Acts how they all sacrific everything so that everybody had what they needed it’s like we don’t need these organizations built on on demonic oats and Covenants to protect our communities yeah that was a as you
Was talking I was thinking about a comment that somebody had asked me I think it was a comment I read on one of the videos that that I had done and it was just basically almost what you just said well you know well look at what
They were doing in the in the community and and the Revelation came to me with this thought well there’s a reason why you see so much good Happening by virtue of those that are in fraternity and those that are happening in saris the reason that is is because they have deceived God’s
Children and God’s children are in those organizations because God’s children are in those organizations you’re G to see good things it’s almost like um when you see uh Shadrach mhach and Abednego are being taken into Exile right they’re God’s children being taken in Exile and then the the King Nebuchadnezzar takes
God’s children and begins to use God’s children for his good yeah because there’s good in God’s children so you know no surprise right that that you’re gonna see good things like that happen in in the fraternities in the sororities the the and one of the things
You you mention of well um the church should be doing these things and one of the I think one of the major aspects that I remember Omega had was you could go anywhere Shaha knows this you could go in any state any country any City any
Uh nation and if you saw a you knew a brother that was there he’ take you in his house didn’t know you from Steve didn’t know you from Adam didn’t know your name did you know what I’m saying like just on the surface of the fact
That you was an Omega imagine if that same principle or that same character was actually in the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ that no matter where you go right as soon as I know that you’re a Christian hey bro come on I got you you
Know uh don’t worry about it I you can stand in my house and until you get a job and and and I I’ll take care of you you know what I mean and that was real that that actually happened to me um a brother here in the city when I first
Moved here you know what I mean I didn’t have a house he let me stay at his house and I didn’t know him like I didn’t know him all I knew is he was an Omega and he knew I was an Omega and so you know to
Me those those kind of attributes right um are are great attributes that absolutely should be inside of uh the Church of Lord Jesus Christ absolutely amen yeah they it’s it’s all ran like the secret societies are ran like churches you know uh and I and I want to tread lightly with saying that
Because it’s not to say that everything that they do is right but they portray themselves they’re doing it’s just like uh for example when I when I try to you know evangelize and share with other people that are still tied to these secret societies it’s like you see the
People who are of the Islamic faith for example you know Muslims and how they worship their God right uh and it’s like imagine if the quotee unquote Believers of Jesus Christ the true Messiah spent time worshiping the way that they did you know or uh just just different
Organizations or you see like as uh brother Tommy had mentioned just going from state to state just because this guy has on a frat shirt or something you know being invited into someone’s house if churches was doing the same exact Insight it’s almost like the things of
The world they all pull from the principles of like Christ if you will to draw Christians away from God you know rather than leading them to it so it’s interesting and stuff is all backwards but I mean you start to realize these things once you come out you know y like
So much of this you don’t really realize until you come out of it because when you’re in it you’re just so blinded and you know that brings us to the part of these Oaths and these covenants because when you make those spiritual agreements it’s like your identity becomes tied to
These organizations and so anytime anybody tries to present you with some truth or confront you about it you get defensive you know that spirit of offense comes on you so heavy it’s like you can’t say anything about my letters don’t say anything about my org because you know there’s no way that something
That I love so much can be you know that there’s anything wrong with it but you know just looking from the outside it should be you know it should be just simple as day and night if somebody wants to beat you up like that’s you
Know it’s not of God but you know the way that these things are presented it’s so it’s just it’s just Wicked is there no other way to talk about it um so with that being said let’s talk about some of the rituals that happened through Omega
Sci-fi um so you know obviously I didn’t pledge it but I you know I was doing some research about the different tests is it the five tests you know that are happened during the process of pledging Omega Sai fraternity and so one of the um so in
The rituals it talks about how Omega believes in the fatherhood of God and you know Universal Brotherhood so let’s talk about what that really means because if you just hear those things obviously it sounds good like you know the fatherhood of God they’re mentioning God so one would say this is a Christian
Organization but you know it’s known that Omega sci-fi is first of all all the organizations have ties to Freemasonry and the Eastern stars but Omega sci-fi has pretty deep connections to it so Shah can you kind of talk to us about you know the fatherhood of God and
The universal Brotherhood and kind of what this really comes from yeah so from my knowledge and you know just my own personal research whenever I came out I ran into a former member of Omega Sai he he had denounced over 20 years ago then there was another
Brother that I talked to um that he had denounced um over 20 years he actually renounced and wrote a book uh the most high led him to write this 380 page book back in 1995 he was a former member of Omega SciFi and a prince Offrey Mason so
Whenever break breaking down the rituals and stuff uh you know I asked them about this fatherhood of God and um there’s a lot of Masons they actually have a website that have come out of FR all Freemasonry and they give the definitions of what this this uh term
Means now the fatherhood of God uh means that all gods are the same uh and we know that as Believers of Jesus Christ being our Lord and savior there only one true God which makes that a contradiction to our faith so when you come in by Covenant and you perform
These rituals and and you you bind yourself and you come into agreement basically with these things that are contrary to what you believe in now you’re now you’re you’re out of line you know so and that’s my knowledge of the fatherhood guys that all guys are the
Same and that’s not something that I believe and that alone is actually and was enough to convict me that hey there’s something outright about being in the secret society you know yeah yeah I actually um when I was so I I I pledged Omega in 95 I joined to be a mason in
94 so what was interesting is you know everybody tell me man you did it backwards you know most of the time people are coming out of the fraternities going into the Masons and uh one of the things I remember is when we were going through the ritual for
Omegas and I tell everybody the reason why they called us secret societ is because it’s a secret you’re they’re not telling you what you’re getting ready to go through in the actual ritual what you’re going to be having to do but as they was reciting some of the words of
It I was like man that’s like verbatim word for word out of the Masonic uh ritual book and uh I remember that like while I’m in the in the moment like well that’s kind of weird I’m have to check that out you know what I mean and why
That is you know I mean I didn’t know at the time why that was even the case y so I’m I’m looking at the ritual right now and um so if you want to look over this ritual you can find it online as well but so during the ritual process
You know the basilis who is usually like the president of the chapter or the region or whatever it says do the initiates except the fatherhood of God the universal Brotherhood of Man and the so aristocracy of the intellect and so I was looking up the universal Brotherhood
Of Man and really that was a teaching that like um you know all other religions have a version of Jesus Christ who was pretty much you know equal to Jesus Christ so like if your religion doesn’t accept Jesus Christ you know that just means that you had someone
Else who was sent and pretty much did the same work of Jesus Christ for the followers of that religion and you know again as Believers of Jesus Christ we believe him when he said that he was the way the truth and the life and you know
No one else can come no one can come to the father except through him and so when we vote you know as members of Omega scii when you say with your mouth that you agree to the Brotherhood of Man um you know you’re you can only serve
One God you can’t have two masters so it’s like you can’t be in agreement that Jesus Christ is the only way and then also be saying oh but I also agree to the Brotherhood of Man and so many times you know we hear the the rebuttal that
You know oh it’s just you know it’s just a play on words or it was just a little thing that we did but as Believers we understand there is a spiritual realm and so many times we like to say that there’s power of life and death in the
Tongue you know when we want to declare a financial blessing coming or we want to declare marriage coming but that same spiritual principle applies when we make these Oaths and when we make these covenants and when we say you know we pledge our life our souls our happiness
To these organizations um so do you do you remember going through the rituals because like you said a lot of times you don’t know I remember I was blindfolded during mine yeah I I remember you remember going through the rituals um I don’t remember verbatim everything that was
Said or done uh but I do remember going through the the series of the five test I remember you know the theatrics behind you know the bassist and you know the the neop fites ETC you know um so and then I and I also know even deeper like
Just upon research how the ritual has also changed over the years you know uh they they’ve taken certain things out it’s almost like they’re trying to make it better uh more suitable for believers if you will but yeah I do remember going through ritual yeah one of the um kind of aha
Moments that I had with God was the question that he asked me which was to whom was the altar uh that you bow down to erected for and I was like um because I was telling God like man God when I went through I was bwing down to you you know
Like I was I’m a Christian so I was bwing down to you God and he asked me that question and um I was like the I guess the altar was erected for Omega because it was you know what I mean and this is what he said to me he
Said because the altar was erected to Omega there’s no way that he would share his altar with Omega so there’s no way that I could as a Christian had used that same altar that would have meant the altar was defiled anyway yeah it’s you know and when we talk
About these altars it feels like it’s it strikes a nerve you know with those who are not ready to receive the truth and a lot of it’s oh I never bowed at an altar we didn’t worship but you know there are many ways in which we worship God like
The scripture even says when we offer our bodies as a Living Sacrifice you know that’s a way of worship so even during pledging we’re offering up our bodies as living s literally we’re offering up our bodies to be beat and to be uh you know just mutilated but when
You talk about the altars like an altar is literally just a flat surface that’s built in reverence to something and like you said these altars were not unto God um in the ritual book of Kappa it literally says the altar of Kappa alfasi um which is the delic shrine so Kappa is
Associated with Apollo but like you said when we’re doing these initial initiations and when we’re bowing it’s not to God it’s not like oh you know I’m pledging my Al allegiance to Omega but God is you know I’m going to offer it up to God as well it’s like you got to
Choose one or the other and you know there’s just really no way to make an excuse for it it’s that it’s that one thought though that you talked about you know kind of why you’re in the moment you just oh you know it’s nothing yeah that
Thought that thought oh this is you know this is just nothing you know what I mean that’s just they’re just using old vernacular because this is you know old you know uh ancient stuff it’s like you you’re in the moment trying to make reasoning with your mind yeah what I
Would say of even things you’re like well why would I want to rip the tongue out of somebody’s I mean like like when you hearing some of the grotesque stuff you know what I mean like as you’re going through the test you’re like why would I do that like why would I you
Know what I’m saying but you’re just thinking oh this is just make believe what I gotta do yeah that’s what it is that is make believe that’s that’s because I I thought all of this was it I had actually read the rituals before I actually crossed so I read them and then
Whenever they was like all right this is a test uh I think they said I don’t know if they they said it was the test of discretion where they said this they said you ventured your first test something of that nature and so as we went through the test I’m like oh this
Is that part that I read you know some time ago and I’m like okay well this is all just theatrics you know and just the funny games and it’s like we forget that life and death are in the power of the tongue and it’s we have these cliche
Saying that just you know you know oh we didn’t mean it and you know similar to what y’all are saying and it’s it’s ridiculous and you get to a point in your walk at least for me personally when you realize like if you believe that every word that the Bible says is
True once you’ve actually seen demons cast out of people demons have been cast out of yourself you know and you realize how how real God is it’s like you don’t want to take for granted just saying just useless things you know or giving power speaking death in so many
Different situations over yourself over your brothers your sisters your families Etc like the stuff is it’s like you just want to watch what you say you know it’s not just words yeah to me it’s like the the devil tricked us is what he did because anytime we start questioning the word of
God oh that I mean I know it says life and death is in the power that’s not really it really means it don’t apply here that don’t apply here it’s the same thing that he did to Eve you know I mean in the garden it’s the same thing did
God really say that you know you you can eat from this tree oh you’re not gonna die I mean just you know you there’s no way you’re gonna die God knows that in the day you eat it you know you’re gonna become wise I mean it’s that’s it’s as
Soon as the devil gets us to question the Bible question the word of God oh you know that Bible has been translated a hundred times and and oh by the way they left some books out of it and just that them thoughts them thoughts to to
To get us away from truth it’s the same enemy the same devil using the same tactics y you know all of a sudden I see so many comment TOS like you know when it comes to Believers refuting these organizations now all of a sudden Christianity is The White Man’s religion
Or brainwash you know I had somebody this woman who told me that I was um anti-black and Antichrist because I renounced and I was just like how and like he said earlier you know when we talk about slavery if we were so upset about slavery why would I turn around
And pretty much enslave you know my my brothers and my sisters by beating them up it’s just so much deception like you said and you know so going back to the power of our words even when I think about some of you know like the nicknames that that you know that you
Give your chapter or even just the line names or the ship names so you guys were chapter row Theta did I hear this correctly that your chapter was called the death row chapter bloody Ro bloody why would we take pride in something like that yeah or even during
The probates when you know initiates come in and they’re doing a death march you know they’re marching to their death because they are about to die to this person that they are and then after the probate literally it’s pretty much like you’re resurrecting yes and it’s like a
It’s a perversion of the scripture that says if any man be in Christ he is a new creation old things are passed away new you know all things are made new so it’s like these organizations If any man being Kappa he is a new creation old things have passed away so at these
Probates you hear people say you know formerly you knew me as but now you have to call me this and it’s like I remember when I was renouncing the Lord even told me like you need to come out of agreement with your line name with your ship name because my line name was
Cataclysm and it’s like cataclysm is a catastrophic disaster and so when you come into agreement you start calling yourself a catastrophic disaster then you wonder why it’s just nothing but chaos happening in your in your life is because you’re proclaiming you’re giving those things in the spiritual
Realm life wow yeah no that’s good man word on that one yes a good bro is didn’t even realize it like man you know what they that’s right they gave us new names like yeah it’s like like the death barrier yeah it Chang that name it’s
Like the gospel all over again the death burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ and now all of us even to the uh even getting down to shaving shaving our heads I don’t know if y’ had to shave y heads ask but you know shaving the head it’s like a new baby you
Know yeah it’s and it’s just like the way that you everybody on your line has to be one you’re Yol together as you know being one and I remember we had people on our line that had tattoos so every person had to come you know with that same tattoo marking so you’re
Writing on yourself you know you’re everybody has to have on the same clothing is just like you said it’s really the gospel and it’s like during during the pledge process you’re picking up your cross and you have to bear your cross um you know for Kappa for Omega
Instead of bearing your cross for Christ it’s really just a perversion and we have to understand that the enemy influences people who who submit to him so a lot of people are like oh our Founders didn’t mean it they didn’t but it didn’t matter if they meant it or not
Because they subjected themselves to these principles you know they allowed the the enemy to influence them and this this is the fruit of it like this is what it is at this point um so it’s like there’s no way for us to be in these organizations but still trying to live
For Christ it’s it’s it’s spiritual right it’s spiritual there’s no reason that a organization a social service organization needs to have a ritual its own prayer A Hymn a hym for itself is a worship song A which is a worship song um a a benediction for what you do for deceased
Members like it’s a religion and and what’s crazy like going through it you don’t even realize that that it’s happening the reason why there’s an altar is because a spiritual event is taking place you’re actually taking an oath and and you’re doing it before before the god that’s
There crazy joining the cult that’s how I love that book brother Peter wrote you know did I just join a cult I say this stuff is ridiculous man you don’t realize it when you’re in it but when you come out and you know what’s interesting I was deceived Satan tricked
Me and and I was in it but something led me out because I was die hard you know Omega Sai to the day I died you know but something something and it wasn’t super crazy it’s like I remember I was in a barber shop and I was asking my former
Lon brother I say hey man there something not right about this organization this is is before I even knew what denouncing and renouncing was and it’s just crazy that the love of God that you get to experience is although you were deceived he still kind of put
Something in your heart to whether it pose a question or to draw you out or have you thinking like you know you had your mindset on this but let me throw a wrench in there and see if if you about it you know yeah that’s a good point
Shah because I’m I’m thinking about like what was when did I start it kind of moving forward the thing that God was doing to lead me out of it and I remember um when I was at school I was was getting ready to graduate and we had
Been at this party at the baby Dome uh which is a a facil place at at at prayview where all the parties were we at the party right and I’m telling you I had a ton of drink I had a ton of alcohol in me and we were all stepping
Around and the more I dranked for whatever reason I could not get drunk and I remember walking outside of the the building and all of a sudden this enormous feeling of disgust comes on me like I’m disgusted with life I’m disgusted with you know the drinking the
Girls the you know the selling of the drug I mean like like everything was just like and then this thought comes like man if this is what life has to offer I feel cheated like in the moment and I remember just kind of walking
Around and at that time some of my ex L Brothers came out like man what you doing out here I go man I don’t know I’m just tired of this stuff I’m just tired of all of this I’m just I’m tired of it like this got to be something better in
Life and you know they trying to encourage oh man come on just drink a little bit more of this you know what I mean but I couldn’t deny this feeling inside that was disenchanted with all of it you know I couldn’t shake it and um I
Would say that was the first sign of the seed that I believe the Lord had been PL had planted in my heart you know to to get away from it yeah that’s powerful so let’s talk about the moment you know that that moment that you finally renounced like
What was the um so what was your conversation with the Lord what was you know the conviction that he gave you really and I’ve watched both of your testimonies and you know Shahid I think yours is powerful because you weren’t even in the the organization that long
So like you got in and you were immedi like you just and I think it goes to your heart was postured towards God I think that’s a big part of it and Minister Tomy and part of your testimony is you know that you were preaching I believe you said you ministered one day
And some you had already kind of had the conviction and a woman came up to you and was like you know the Lord wants to give me a word so let’s talk about uh know how the the renouncing process to you what was that like what were you
Thinking in your heart and your mind that made you to say you know like I have to fully walk away I say for me it all happened fast so I got baptized when I was 13 and I knew God was real from that from that
Day forward but my life just was not a reflection of who God was right we go to college and lose our minds but I knew that you know from just excessive drinking smoke and whoremongering Etc I said you know at some point if I want to
Have a family of my own uh and be successful have a career and stuff like this lifestyle that I’m living must end so I already knew in my mind it had to end at some point I just didn’t know when it was going to stop and so as life
Slowed down and I graduated I started to read my Bible and I gave it a try because i’ had you know all the things that you can imagine like whether it was cars motorcycles women money all of this stuff in college and I still felt empty
And I had pretty much everything that I desired in life so I’m like man I’m still empty I thought this was you know everything and it’s interesting because I said well let me just give God a try and circle back with him I read my Bible
Maybe a chapter two chapters a night for 30 days and so this stuff happened fast because I didn’t have much to do after college I’m still looking for a job nobody’s on the yard so it’s like guy was very intentional about how he did
This it’s like he set me up and gave me nothing but time to seek after him and within 30 days my life supernaturally and my desires supernaturally started to change I ended up asking my former Lon brother about the the the fraternity and stuff and I was just like man what is
Your thoughts on this he he told me you know uh you should seek after this uh this young lady on the yard who just denounced Delta and I’m like what did denounce mean and long story short I reached out to her and she knew Brother P who came out of Omega signi and
Brother P just so happened to be in Houston it’s like there’s no coincidence this all happened he came to my house which was the fet house at the time and uh ministered to us and he talked to us for two hours me and my former Lon brothers and I’m like Hey Brother Pete
When you gonna you know get to the point and tell us more about Omega but he wasn’t telling us the specifics about what was demonic about Omega and secret societies he was just telling us how Jesus changed his life and I’m like well there’s no way my former Lon brothers
Are going to come out of this organization because you’re not really hitting on the right points but you know it was convicting and it touched me and and maybe it took from the time I started reading my word to the time I actually renounced it
Maybe was a matter of 60 days you know it got to a place where it was like Ezekiel I ended up coming across Ezekiel chapter 2 and three where you know he told Ezekiel he was gonna send him out to be a Watchman he said he’s sending
Them to a rebellious Nation who wouldn’t listen to him and I was just like you know and I didn’t want to have the blood on my on my hands you know whenever I meet God one day so I said you know what got to a place where I could not even
Sleep and I was just wrestling with it you know y’all know just as well as I know when you’re wrestling with God it’s like you can either keep trying to convince yourself that he’s not speaking to you because you can’t unhear his voice when he speaks to you you can’t
Unhear it you can live in misery or and like trying to convince yourself otherwise or you can just surrender and stop rejecting him and when you surrender then you ultimately like have peace again and I just was being tormented and I thank God for allowing
Me to be tormented in my sleep and just leaving me Restless because it’s really just his love like his his Reckless Love just chasing after all of us it drew me to him and I’m just so appreciative for that that’s kind of how my renouncing uh took place and
Denounce yeah and for me I’m just thinking like like much like Shahid I I very much believed in God I mean like you I got baptized young and I’ll never forget I mean the preacher was up preaching he was preaching Jesus and I think I was nine and I just walked
Straight up to him and I’m give my life to God and I believe all of that was you know the the what I call God’s preserving right he preserved me because he knew that I I would I would one day come up out of it which is to me is an
Encouragement for for anybody else that’s kind of walking in in the world like like Shah you know you know found out God was real and all of a sudden you know slowly but surely started turning into the world and you know getting to the point where you I’m just
Dissatisfied with with life you know in general and the Lord called me and because God called me um he was very specific about like you got to get out that Mason like the Masons is not me I’m not in it and I knew that what was the
Rituals and stuff that I went through was omegas was very similar so I knew I was like okay I had information I didn’t have Revelation and I didn’t even ask I wasn’t like as soon as God spoke to me I was like I’m not in that I left it just
Like I’m done with the Mason I’m done with the omegas and had done that for a number of years you know I mean um at that point I didn’t know it was idolatry I didn’t know any of that stuff I just know I heard God’s voice and God said
Leave it so I just left it and I walked away from it and then I tell you about five or six years later my wife uh became a a member of Delta Sigma Theta organization and she bought me this shirt that said omegas for Christ and so
Um I just put the shirt on and my my thought was okay well maybe in my relationship is solid with God you know U I’ll wear the shirt and uh maybe I’ll you know kind of go out and start hanging around some omegas to try to win
Them you know to try to win him over to Christ but what I did not know is God had that was a offense to God like that wasn’t him you know he was offended by the fact that I put this shirt back on so I find myself going to this picnic uh
And uh I’m at the picnic and I’m watching these two omegas you know stepping around and I see this demonic presence sitting on both of them you know and before I knew it they threw the song of Tomic dog on and some other omegas get out there and and they’re
Stepping around and I see the same demonic Spirit on all of them and then I started looking around the room you know uh and I see the other omegas that are sitting down the same demonic Spirit on them and now I’m like really perplexed I’m like Disturbed in my spirit my wife
Nudges me and like are you gonna go out there and step and I’m like no get your purse we’re leaving because that it stuff is like is is really crazy right now and uh anyway I got home man and I got my prayer posture I started asking God God what
Was going on God why did I see that and the Lord was like listen go to your office there’s a book I need you to go read and um the book was uh by Derek Prince it was called blessings or curse you can choose I sure out of this book
If you have never read this book this is a phenomenal book to go read it’s by Derek Prince It’s called blessings of curse you can choose and the the spirit of God started dealing with me about my life and that there were things that had
Happened in my life that I thought I was suffering for Christ hear this that I was actually suffering for Christ but I was actually dealing with a curse that was related to the Oaths and the rituals that I’d went through with the omegas and the Masons like I was completely shocked and
Immediately uh uh the next thing the Lord told me was he said you’re getting ready to go Minister he says when you go to church to minister um I want you to ask the congregation who in here has a word for you for you because there’s
Somebody that I gave a word for you but they have not told you what I said and so I my my Bishop called me and said hey I want you to minister on on Sunday like like clockwork like God was lining this thing up and I go to preach I preach my
Message that day I preached we’ve got to get this right because lives are depending on this that was my message and I I taught on Deception because the Lord had been giving me all this Revelation around deception when I got done ministering one of the women uh in
The church walked up to me and I could tell she was like nervous like scared to to to like to to speak she had her head down but when she picked her head back up I could see in the spirit that she had the word of the
Lord in her mouth and I was like hey hey hey I said look at me look at me I go what did God tell you what did God tell you and she put her head down put it back up and she said God told me to tell
You that he’s not pleased with your or organization and he’s not he’s not pleased with the organization that you’re in and he’s not pleased with you being a part of it and I did just like this I said girl be of good courage you are hearing from God I said God had
Already been dealing with me about that and immediately I ran home I grabbed every plaque uh a pen uh certificate shirt whatever I had I took it outside uh went to the woods and burned it and while I was standing there the Lord speaks to me
Three times he says I will have no other gods before me I will have no other guys before me I will have no other guys before me and immediately while I was there I said God I just renounced and denounced I I even know it was a thing I
Didn’t know other people were doing it you know I mean I just was walking with God and the spirit of the Lord revealed all that stuff to me those are both powerful testimonies and um I want to talk about the importance of us actually renouncing and
Denouncing because a lot of it is like you know well why can’t you just go in active or why can’t you just step away so I want to read the definition of the word renounce it says to refuse or resign a right or position especially
One as an air or trustee or to formally declare one’s abandonment of a right or possession and so it’s like we have to formally declare that you know I’m giving up my inheritance as a member of Kappa as a member of Omega whatever it’s not enough just for us to say oh you
Know I’m just going to be in the background because until we renounce until we walk away from those organizations you know the pledges and the allegiance that we made still stand whether or not we’re financially active or you know working we’re still in agreement with those things and so
Renouncing is the process of you know spiritually disconnecting ourself from the organization renouncing our membership renouncing our rights and then to denounce means to publicly declare something to be bad to you know to publicly make it known that something is wicked and another thing you know a
Lot of people like why can’t you just renounce and go about your business but the point of publicly declaring that it’s bad is so that other people can be aware it’s important for us to publicly share like Shahed mentioned you know in Ezekiel he talks about
The Lord told Ezekiel like you know if I give you a word for these people and you don’t go and tell them you know their blood is going to be on their hands but also going to be on your hands for not sharing with them the wickedness and so
You know we have a mandate to share this to others so that they can come out of deception and it’s like you know imagine if if we never shared this how many people would not come into you know how many people are just going to receive
Truth just by us speaking our story yes the Lord will find any way to get the truth to his people but he wants to partner with us to do his bidding on the earth so you know it’s it’s imperative for us to denounce and continue to tell
In these stories so that other people can you know receive the truth and share it as well you know there’s uh two scriptures that I’d like to share that for people that may be in this space of quandering well do I need to say something or I don’t and I use these
Because this is this is one of the best points of revelation God gave me around what comes out of our mouth right and the fact that we’ve taken o i liking it to a marriage one that when you get married in order for you to be divorced
Well you it was an actual spiritual event that took place you were at an altar you set you with some vows and things like that before before the Lord and those things went down in the record book to undo them you have to go back legally and undo that unless and if you
Don’t undo those things there’s you can’t go and marry another person now in the scriptures um it’s in the Book of Joshua chapter 9 and this gets into the area what I call being deceived right cu people think well you know if I was deceived does God still hold me accountable
Yes like and there’s too many examples but Adam and Eve is one but this one this one in the Book of Joshua chapter nine you all can go and read it but it’s the story of the gibeonites and the gianitsos and they act like they were Beggars and
They actually deceived the children of Israel into giving getting into listen to this a covenant with them okay and it actually happened and what the scripture says is that uh the children of is Israel actually sought not the Lord they didn’t ask God should they get into this Covenant okay so even though
The gibeonites deceived them be by the time that the children of Israel realized that the Covenant had already been made and so there was nothing else that they could do to change it okay you say well why does that matter years later okay after this Covenant was made uh Kings uh Saul gets
On the throne okay and this is in 2 Samuel uh CH 21: 1-3 you can kind of read this well Saul’s on the throne and now he reigns for a period of time well eventually Saul takes it upon himself to go and kill the gibeonites because he
Was like they did us wrong they deceived us and so now I’m G to go kill these people well now in David’s year in King David’s year now he’s King okay he didn’t know that Saul did that right and so the children of Israel are experiencing literally three years of
Famine and so David seeks the Lord he goes God what’s going on like uh we’re not we’re not any sin why are we in this famine and God tells him it was because of Saul Saul killed the ganit out of zeal well it was because Saul by killing the gites broke the
Covenant and because that Covenant was broken the children of Israel themselves were under a curse and they was experiencing three years of famine so that’s like a real example so you can understand what happens when we get in covenants and even though you and I may be deceived by getting into the
Covenants the Covenant still stands and so whatever you said well you know whatever thing you said if I do this will this should happen to me those are the things that will happen to you and um you can look in your life as a result
Of the words of you go back and read it even though you go I don’t even remember it I was blindfold that day like go back and read that Covenant go back and read The Vow you took go back and read the words that you said because it went down
On the record book and in order for it to be cancelled you have to renounce it that’s the renouncing part when you say I now renounce Omega SciFi and all Oaths taken uh to a affirm myself with that organization uh before you in Jesus name broken yeah that’s you know it’s
Important because it talks about you know the Bible speaks about the generations and you know those Oaths and those covenants that we make you know if we don’t come out of him then the other Generations will begin to to bear the consequences there are you know children
Who are being tormented in their sleep because of the Oaths and the covenants you know that their parents have made with these other gods and um you know I know from experience something that I was dealing with was you know really perverted dreams and until I came out of
That Covenant with you know the the gods and the spirits of Kappa you know I was being tormented in my sleep and I just is couldn’t understand why am I having these you know tormenting dreams perverted dreams and when I broke Covenant with it those dreams stopped
And I know there are so many other brothers that are being tormented in their sleep sometimes as men we think like you know having perverted dreams are is just something that as a man you know that we should experience that’s not the will of God for us to be
Tormented in your sleep with you know perverse things like that and so there are just so many ways um you know even sickness like sickness can be a form of a curse because of Covenant that you’ve made into you know like just cancer running in a family for no reason or
Heart disease like there are so many things that we experience that we just say oh it’s just in my bloodline but if we go back and look it’s because of you know sometimes either because of covenants and Oaths that have been made and and we really have to understand the
Consequences of coming into agreement with the Enemy really it’s what it is yeah I remember as you was talking I was thinking about as a child similar things my mother was an Eastern Star she was in the in the memory e and star and I would no joke just listen there would
Be times where my bed would be shaking um and I would feel hands grabbing me and pulling me out of my bed and you know I’m a child I don’t know what’s going on and I remember going to my grandmother my grandmother was a she
Was a Praying Woman and so I went to my grandmother Grandma there’s some stuff happening in the house like she said what’s going on I said gr I said like when I’m sleeping the bed would just start shaking like I’m and I’d feel hands grabbing me and pulling me out of
The bed and she said you tell those demons leave you alone that you believe in Jesus and the next night I went home same thing happened bed started shaking and I said leave me alone I believe in Jesus and everything stopped like real I’ll never forget that
Man that’s that when you started talking about stuff that you happens to you the child I was like oh my God I said I remember that I do remember that the same thing that’s that’s I I and it’s and it’s so real is people you tell people these things you know when
People don’t believe in the spiritual Realms it’s it’s kind of I I say because it can be overwhelming when you’re trying to get someone to understand you know where you’re at in your walk uh because they can’t see spiritually so it’s like you know don’t don’t I I encourage people to
Say you know don’t become overwhelmed because it’s not really if you’re doing it’s really God’s doing you know he’s doing the work through you but I remember when I had that that dream it only took one time brother Tommy and brother Ashton whenever I was uh this is
Right before I renounced and before I got that word about Ezekiel and I went to sleep and it literally felt like something grabbed me by the ankle I Woke Up This was the crazy part I was uh at my grandparents house and their room was two doors down from mine very small
Hallway I screamed as loud as I could I’m 23 years old screamed as loud as I could top of my lungs we had Church the next morning and uh nobody heard me and I woke up the next day and uh we was getting ready for church and I’m like
Hey you know Grandma Grandpa uh y y’all didn’t hear me last night and I woke up just crying I was I was afraid I’m 23 years old afraid to get out of my own bed and they was like no what you mean and this is when I knew it was like a
Spiritual thing that was taking place you know and it’s like everyone won’t believe that that stuff actually took place but something woke me out of my sleep and I I felt something actually touch me and it actually scared me you know and yeah God has not giv us a
Spirit of fear but of power L time mind but I was scared and you know interesting enough I actually said this when I scream I holl brother PE name and and I meant to say Jesus you know I meant to be like God Jesus but I actually screamed brother P’s name
Because you know me and him were in Fellowship like all the time and so but you know God knew my heart it was just crazy stuff like that it actually takes place you know yeah that’s that’s a good point brother she because when you talk about the spirit spiritual realm it’s like
Some people don’t really believe in it but whether or not you believe in it it’s it’s so real and you know people may think this is just like a fat or people are looking for clout but there’s obviously a clear reason why God is calling so many of his children out like
If you just discern the times like the the tactics and the Press of the enemy is getting so much stronger and stronger and the Lord needs his children to be able to minister to be able to flow and especially when you think about the the ministry of Deliverance casting out
Demons you know Jesus himself said that beel cannot cast out be elob and so there are so many Believers that you know God wants you to be able to walk in Deliverance and be able to fully lay hands and heal the sick cast out demons but if you’re in Covenant with these
Demons you can’t go and cast them out and so that’s why there are so so many Ministries that are like hit hit a brass ceiling really um you know yes you can be used in Ministry you know Minister Tommy was a minister I was an ordained
Minister as well but it’s like God can only use me to a certain degree agree because ofen with and you know I can just testify from my own self like I felt like once I renounced my spiritual giftings just went to another level it
Was like um you know I and even just the point that I felt so much more bold because it was like you know what God if I can do this for you then you know there’s nothing that I won’t speak about there’s nothing that I won’t call out
And confront in your name because I know you have my back I know you know you are my light and my salvation but you know it’s just really getting to the point that this is so crucial for for the children of God to come out come out
There is a work that needs to be done for the kingdom of God and we’re called here to be soldiers we’re called here to war and a soldier can’t be on both sides of the fight know you got to pick a side you got to choose a side and it makes me
Think about the scripture when Elijah went to uh went to Mount Carmel and he was pretty much you know like choose which you know let’s we gonna have a showdown here we G altar which altar are you going to be committed to because there’s only going there’s only going to
Be one God that answers by fire and Danel that’s just kind of where we are right now you got to pick a side whose side on you know there’s two things that I’m I’m thinking about one is the when when the Revelation that God gave me that the devil had been using that
Against me man that upset me so bad I mean so much because I started thinking about all of the hellish stuff that my family and I had been through and I was like oh man like and then I you know you start once the revelation of do you realize that you
Open this door to your family to your kids to your children you know I mean and because of it they’ve suffered I don’t know about you but man it it sobered me up like I was like man I I got to get to God and and I
Said I got to get all this stuff out of my house I don’t want no part of this and I want to close the door and I want to speak a little bit to to those of you that have been listening to us right now just to to to ask you this
Question think about your life before you joined and then think about your life since you joined and ask yourself is it better like I had to you know like look at it like man we went through a lot of stuff and I can promise you that from
The day I joined to the day I walked out of it there was so much horrible stuff that had happened that like you Ashton when when I got out of it man this the the Insight the the my spiritual Eyes Are Open so much more my
Ears are open so much more you don’t you don’t realize how much it it was uh hindering you which is why you know I encourage you all that that you’re listening to us you know look at your life I mean really look at it from the
Day you started from the day you pledged from the day you joined and said you would get into it to now has it been better man that’s that’s a real word and you know I just hear the Holy Spirit even talking about sunship you know because
So many people you know you go into this looking for brothers and so many people are without fathers I feel like for me you know I grew up with my father in the home I didn’t have brothers but even after I renounced I just began to grow in sunship really experiencing what it
Means to be a Son of God Like You Don’t Have To You don’t need the approval of Kappa or any of these things to to be a man of God to be a Son of God there are so many of you that are looking for identity and when you join these
Organizations you you take this on as your identity but this is not the identity that God had for you and when you leave these organizations you will truly begin to know not just who God is but who you are like there’s so much about you that the Lord wants to reveal
But your eyes are just blinded because you feel like you have to take on the even we get in these ORS and we begin to take on the personas of these orgs you know it’s like Oh I’m a pretty boy now or I’m a c dog I’m a nasty boy I’m an
Alpha man whatever it is you begin to take on these personas but the Lord has so much more in store for you like Minister Tommy just said there’s trust me your life is going to get better when you leave these ORS you will lack nothing whatever Brothers you think you
May lose like the Lord has Covenant real Covenant brothers that he has in store for you brothers that’ll hold you up I’ve never experienced brotherhood like I have until coming out of the or you know brothers that will War for you brothers that will pray with you
Brothers that will fast with you I didn’t do any of that while I was in the Oregon you know God has God has better for you outside of these organizations that’s you know really what it comes down to yeah and the one thing you don’t even realize I’ve been saying this other
Word too is you don’t realize you’re actually cheating God from showing himself strong in your life yes man you took the words brother Tommy you took the words you’re cheating God like you’re cheating God to show himself strong in your life because you think that the organization is going to get you the
Promotion like you haven’t seen promotion you ain’t seen the job you ain’t seen whatever you think that uh you esteem as being great in your life your marriage your children’s life you haven’t seen greatness yet like freedom freedom freedom you don’t even know that you’re you’re bound you
Know like I that’s crazy because I didn’t I didn’t realize how much weight these secret societies had until I was free from it I’m like man I mean y’all know you know when you renounce that stuff like that’s a lot of weight to to take off your back that’s a
Lot of yeah freedom to walk in through now but man that’s I feel like that’s the perfect word sheat is just freedom because and there’s so many of you that are watching this and you’re like well my life isn’t bad or you know I’m a Christian and I’m still good but
Literally after I renounced I just felt I felt weights coming off me that I didn’t even know I had like you don’t even know degree of which you’re bound you don’t know the degree of even it’s like PTSD you know so much anxiety stays with you because of the anxiety that you
Experience going through the process um so much of your confidence has been Stripped Away so much of your identity I remember just thinking about identity like anytime you go somewhere I pledge in 16 so it was like your identity which is tied to your line you go you show up
To a cap un event and it’s like oh spring 16 is in the building when it’s like I don’t want to be spring 16 I just want to be Ashton I want to be you know just my own person I am who I am but your identity is just yolked to uh to
Your line of your chapter so you know be free be free in Jesus Christ be bold um receive who the sun sets free is free indeed and so many people are in these Orcs And they think you know I’m a life member I’ve been in for so long so like
At this point I’m have to I you know at this point I’m just stuck in it but the scripture says that the arm of the Lord is not too short to save so no matter how long you could be a founding I don’t care if you’re a charter member God can snatch
You out of that thing if you just open up your heart to him so you know this is a there’s a point of Revelation that like like when you were talking about the the length of time somebody’s been in the organization and I’ve heard people talk like man I’ve been 30 years
In and I’ve been 35 in and you know I me and the Revelation was this the Lord just delivered you from 35 years of idolatry let that see that sink in like he just delivered you when you decide to renounce when you decide to denounce the Lord just
Delivered you for how many number of years you’ve been in that Organization for that many number of years of idolatry like bro how you say didn’t even know we was in there in Adar for 27 years like crazy like you’re like what didn’t even know it and that’s another thing so many
People say I don’t have the conviction we’re not always convicted by our sin but that doesn’t mean that it’s not sin like you’re convicted of it or not it’s if if God says it’s a sin it’s a sin so we have to stop making this like a oh
It’s just an opinion this is not opinion this is Bible like it’s Bible you you need you need to come out like that’s it’s no question like you have to renounce and denounce these organizations to see the fullness of God wants to do in your life as well like
Minister Tommy said there’s promotion the scripture says that God is the one who gives us the ability to create wealth you don’t need Kappa to give you a promotion you don’t need Omega to get you in corpit America the King of Kings like Jehovah Gyra provider imagine what
He wants to provide to you if you would just give him your full Allegiance yeah the Bible says taste and see that the Lord is good you know some translations may say taste and see that the Lord is sweet and this is one promise I can share with everyone and
Like I I guarantee every like God is so good that if you if you if you doubt like right now because we all know as believers you know we shouldn’t doubt when we ask you know we don’t want to have a wavering Faith you know but if
You give God a try in your life and you ask God to reveal himself to you and to show you who he is you know he will definitely do it if you do so with a sincere heart and he won’t let you down and he will literally blow your mind he
Says he can do exceedingly abundantly above what you can ask think or imagine so it’s like even the the most wisest thoughts that you may have and the strongholds you may be to whatever the case is that he can come and break all of that stuff down he will literally
Blow your mind and he will give you this experience that nobody can actually take away and you may not be able to always explain it to people but in your heart you know that it’s so real and like yeah that it’ll get you to where you need to be eternally you
Know and as you were speaking it just makes me think of the story of Gideon um you know if you’re questioning whether or not what we’re saying is sh ask the Lord to give you confirmation like when when the Lord came to Gideon Gideon asked him more than once like if this is
If this is really your will God I need you to confirm it for me and Gideon asked him to confirm it in a specific way like he gave the Lord instructions like I need this this this to happen for me to know that this is your will so if
You are questioning it ask the Lord to make it crystal clear to you and I promise you the Lord it is not his desire for his children to be in deception if you seek the Lord with a pure and sincere heart like my brother just said he will reveal this truth to
You he will make it Crystal Clear like for me there was no more doubt like after the Lord revealed it to me I ran around my house Gathering up stuff I went outside I took the plates off my car I was like yo I want nothing to do
With this threw it all away because it had it had no value to me at that point I had a $400 jacket for Kappa and I took scissors I’m cutting this jacket up and it’s like yo this I don’t care how much money I spent on this it literally has
No value to me anymore because I when I understood like how it went against God my my heart was grieved that the fact that I used you know God breathed his breath in me and I use that breath to make these vows that I was out here
Almost you know I use the illustration that it’s almost like we perverted the fivefold ministry and we came we became evangelists for these uh you know for these organizations instead of becoming evangelist for the Lord so my heart was grieved and I wanted nothing to do with these organizations anymore and you know
It’s like like I said if you want to know the truth the Lord will not keep it from you yeah I highly encourage I mean if you whoever’s watching and and listening to this humble yourself like just humble yourself you know start with God I I heard with these three brothers
Said and you know if you think it’s we’re wrong just say God I think they’re wrong and you know God if I’m wrong show me right and the reason why I say that is it’s Isaiah 5:20 it says woe unto them that call evil good and good evil
Like God does not want us to be deceived into knowing what is good versus evil at all which is which means we’ve got to Humble ourselves we’ve got to go okay God listen I’m I’m okay with what you say is truth just show me that it’s
Truth and God’s gonna do that he’s I guarantee he’s gonna just like he did it for us he’s gonna he’s going to reveal truth to you because like ash said God doesn’t want any of us you guys to be deceived he doesn’t want any of us
Perishing he wants all of us walking in the fullness of the newness of life through Jesus Christ he doesn’t want us walking around deceived and and being afflicted by the devil because the devil deceived us the last thing I wanted to share if you don’t mind brother Ashton is this is
That everyone watching has seen if you know brother Ashton brother Tommy or myself personally if you if you went to school with us you have seen how we was when we were in the world and something supernaturally changed and then you see this different type of fire this
Boldness like desires are starting to be killed and and and there’s this there’s an actual transformation you know that’s beyond our words you can see it in your actions and it’s like like you ask yourself like man this isn’t real but it’s like man you if you knew who I was
Before and you see who I am now it’s like this is evident this is what faith actually looks like so I just encourage you to know that people don’t just change it because you know when you know better you do better you know I didn’t know better I didn’t have a true
Understanding of what I was actually in and because I was deceived but when things started to change it’s like now I know you know so that’s the last thing I wanted to share with everyone and that’s that’s so real and Minister Tommy any last words if you
Were like you know somebody’s on the fence somebody’s on the line if you could just tell them one final thing what’s some final words that you want to leave with the people that are viewing this yeah the the you know couple points one and you’ve already heard me say it
Like know that when you humble yourself and just seek the face of God I mean I’m glad you’re here I’m glad you’re listening but none of us are wanting to steal your own testimony like we want you to go to God and just ask him you
Know he’s gonna speak I I guarantee he’s gonna speak because he doesn’t want any of us to be deceived right so that I highly encourage you continue to humble yourself the second thing is this understand you’re going to have all kind of internal wrestling going on as a
Result of when you decide to you know what is this you know should I stay should I go and I heard the truth I know it’s true right right all of that’s normal all that stuff is normal right the the wrestle is because there I liken
It to being married like it’s a divorce and going through a divorce is kind of painful it’s it’s not an easy thing to do right so I want you to to be encouraged with that and wherever you are in your in your process be encouraged that when you make the
Decision that God I just want to humble myself and God whatever you say whatever you say is truth I’m GNA walk in that and God if I’m walking in in deception God reveal that to me because I don’t want to be deceived so I just want to
Encourage you all like like follow those steps and you’re G to get to where we got to I guarantee it because God is there’s only one truth there’s only one there’s not 10 it ain’t five God is truth Jesus is truth the father is truth right the holy spirit is truth they’re
Not going to lie to you and so I encourage you to seek God if you if you can get the book Derek Prince like I said blessings the curse you can choose um watch Shahid and my and ashon you previous videos anything I can do to
Assist you can reach out to me at Tommy Arbuckle Ministries gmail.com you can connect with me on Facebook or YouTube amen I will put all of our contact information below in the the box so definitely you know if you have questions if you want to talk and we are
Here to be a resource um just to help you walk through this conversation this process and I just I would just leave you with some people you know they want to make the decision but they’re afraid they feel like oh I’m going to be the only one doing this you know Elijah felt
The same way he thought that he was he going to be the only one standing for the Lord but the Lord told him I have 7,000 who have not bowed the knee to bail so trust me you are not going to be the only one to uh to walk out and I
Even believe there’s going to be more than 7,000 people that walk away from these organizations so there is a community that is building I didn’t even know these brothers before I had renounced but when you come into the body like there are brothers waiting for you there are sisters waiting for you
Who will truly support you and help you walk you know the walk that God has called for you to walk so don’t feel like you’re going to be alone you don’t have to do this alone well I just want to give a big thank you to my brothers um you know
Thank you for coming and sharing your testimony thank you for being bold and willing to share your testimony um to those you who have watched like I said I’m going to put our information if you need to talk to us definitely feel free
To reach out to any one of us and we are here as a resource so before we close out in prayer Brothers any final comments from marks before we wrap this episode up now I just want to say thank you again Ashton for all the great work
You continue to do in this space uh to expose the enemy and to set people free it’s it’s a it’s a great great work and just honored to to have the opportunity to be able to to speak to people today amen absolutely yeah thank you thank you
Again too brother ash good seeing you brother Tommy yeah same sh amen all right brothers let’s go ahead and pray for those who are watching and then we will see y’all next time in the secret place so father we just thank you for allowing us to come together in unity
And to fellowship with you Lord we believe that your word says that when We Gather in your name two or more of us father that you are in the midst so Jesus we thank you that your presence is in the midst and we thank you that your presence is even going through the
Computer Lord going through the Airways we thank you that your presence is with those who are watching right now so father we pray that the Holy Spirit would comfort those who are dealing with the the decision to come out to renounce father we pray that you fill them with
All boldness to make the Declaration that they decide to live for you and for you alone father we take authority and we bind up any spirit of fear father that would cause your your children to be afraid of man and father we declare and we loose that you have given them a
Power of Love Lord a power of a sound mind Lord a power of love power and a sound mind so father we thank you that you equipped them to do what you’ve asked them to do father we pray for those who are watching that you would
Soften their heart to hear you Lord that they would not hear the voice of man but that they would hear the voice of you and that when they hear you Lord that they would not Harden their hearts father we just pray that this video would reach who it needs to reach father
That you would plant the seed father and that you would get the Harvest so Lord we thank you God we honor you Lord we believe your word to set the captives free and to loose the prisoners from bondage so Lord we thank you we love you
Father and to you be all glory honor and praise in Jesus name amen Jesus name amen hallelujah thank y’all again all right well hey family thank you’all for joining us another episode of the secret place until next time we will see you back share this video with someone who you know needs to
Hear this testimony that they may be set free all right y’all we will see y’all next time take care everyone
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