Activism? We Does That

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Of our podcast this something we’ve been to work on for a long time so as y’all know it’s y’all can see now you can see D we’re here doing what we do at the 51 Chronicles y’all which is having conversations that spark conversation yes we’re celebrating Black History

Month as we have been all month as we’re going to continue to do all year um all life long and this episode is really exciting because we’re we’re going to start talking about black activism and we started teasing it a little bit in the past episode we talked about that

Connection between Artistry and activism has always been there so we’re going to get into some of that as well but this episode is all about activism so we thank y’all so much for tuning in another episode of the 511 Chronicles y’all we’re about to get into this thing period just

Love so black activis I mean like I honestly I feel like that’s one of the one of the words that when you look at the diaspora when you specifically look at African-Americans you can’t talk about the African-American journey in in this country and not talk about activism there’s no way that conversation can’t

Come up and I think you and I talked about this so many people know the Martin Luther Kings and the Malcolm X’s and the rose of hearts and so we hear those names a lot and I’m not going to say that they’re overused because they’re not honestly feel like they’re

Still not talked about enough but they are heard more than the other that do a lot with and there was so much going on so many and there they’re very specific part of time like they’re very short period of time in which black people have been active in in activism

Specifically so I we were thinking that this conversation this episode could be about so many more of those voices so many more of those activists who came forward and made changes and made moves and really kind of brought us to where we are in this current day

Absolutely I mean you know and I think like we talked a little bit about B Rustin um in the last episode with right yes it was so good and it was so good because it also had the nuances the nuanced aspects of his existence so

Again just to review Byer rtin um was a major figure when it comes to organizing the you know the march in Washington for jobs and for freedoms and equality it was a huge deal you know the biggest parts of that came with Melia Jackson singing and Martin Luther King giving

The famous yes the Queen the mother of gospel Melia Jackson um but also like one of the fathers of the modern civil rights a Martin Luther King Jr G that ionic I Have a Dream speech and talked about what his dream looks like for us

As a people in relation to each other in America so black people white people brown people um all walks of life all classes all social aspects like how we can ingratiate how we can integrate for real for real um did your school do the essay the dror king like essay every

Year yes okay I just want like a a global thing that the what the I Have a Dream speech means to you type yeah we did it we did it that was that was black history in a lot of my my education in in public schooling um when I was in

Private school I honestly don’t remember BR talking about black black history we could have but I really don’t there were four black people in the whole school so I really don’t think we talk about black history we were the black history my elementary school was a global education

School so it would be like a big thing of like black history because we I mean everything from like I don’t know if you remember a Nazi the spider but from a Nazi to spider all the way to Dr like that’s one of the things I was blessed

With of going to a global education school is like I actually got to learn some of my history and not just Dr King yes you know so what I think is really cool about batt Rustin is having a man who during the 60s was relatively openly um which was definitely against the the

Super conservative movement that was the Civil Rights Movement he was very much unappreciated in a lot of under underappreciated as well as unappreciated in a lot of Senses um and the movie The biopic or what what the people call the biopic because I really hate biopic better I like it so much

Better I like it so much better um and I think we talked about in the prev episode previous episode that biopics are like the Michael Jackson movie that had that white man um excuse me that had that other man play him that’s a biopic I mean that’s a that’s a biopic and

Biopic is like yeah biopic is like What’s Love Got to Do With It you know like there’s there’s there’s a difference you know there’s a there’s levels levels to these biographies um but this was a true biopic and what I love Not only was Coleman Domingo’s performance but again the nuances about

What it was like for Rustin in this this this culture of conservative Blackness where they were there were many times people would make comments to Dr King letting him know hey it’s probably not good to have Russ around you because people think y’all are in a relationship which people weren’t really thinking

That but because they were friends he Dr King had to be aware of of the Optics you know like he had to be aware of how things it’s wild it’s wild the focus should be like hello we’re talking about the fact that like black people don’t have rights like hello let’s stay topic

Here but instead it was it’s always been Optics and and I think that’s actually a sad aspect of it because if you look at a lot of our activism Optics has been a big part of it black people are very judged on how we show up how we appear

How we present especially when it comes to things that we’re passionate about so Byer Russen is to me someone who I think is one of the unsung heroes who is finally getting some type of um Spotlight on his work and on his legacy but there’s so many more I mean there’s

So many more like who and I know you’ve got several because when I tell y’all yeah I actually because if you want what you’re talking about is kind of similar to an extent it wasn’t necessarily focused on lgbtq but what web de Boyce was kind of talking about was like

Listen we shouldn’t have to conform he kind of strayed away from like what the Booker T Washington and those people were saying of like oh we gotta get in to fit in he like no like I should be able to show up authentically me whoever as African as I want to be

African-American as I want to be whatever that looks like for me and still be accepted it shouldn’t matter what kind of hair I got what I got on what I’m doing behind closed doors when you’re not even there and you have no idea like none of that should matter and

I kind of wanted to get your perspective on it because we both worked in different types of environments and some of those environments may not have necessarily been the most inclusive of environments when it comes to like how you show up and how you behave or the

Type of customers you may have coming in so I kind of want to get your opinion on that of like what you felt about that you know it’s really interesting because there’s a company that you and I worked for not the first one that we worked

Together at but there was a company that you and I both worked for um and oh I was about to put my other friend out there but I feel like if I said her name everybody would know what company it is everybody’s gonna know what company it

Is so we worked to this retailer which um is is a retailer that specializes in a particular type of product and um for me that was one of the first times that I’d experienced racism and and I won’t even say racism it was definitely discrimination and Prejudice to a a a

Feel that I’d never experienced before um showing up black showing up queer showing up outspoken and also being someone who’s big on advocacy because you know I’m I’m always like somebody’s got to write a die for the underdog and it’s me like I get in trouble for that a

Lot at jobs but I’m like I am I I consider myself pretty diplomatic and strategic when it comes to like my word choice until we start picking on people and we start picking on underserved communities and things like that so in that job there was a moment in time

Where I was responsible for hiring for one of the locations and i’ interviewed all these candidates and I found some great people and I was looking to build a diverse team for the store that did not have a diverse team and I brought in some Hispanic options and some black options and of

Course some white options as well cuz it’s a pretty white Market but I would remember being told and this is actually what led me leaving that company I remember being told that at this location in particular they wanted it to reflect the the the larger University

That was nearby and I was like so what are you saying you know my my district manager at the time was like well don’t you know that like you know 60% of their students pledge fraternities and sororities I was like okay that’s awesome you know I pledge fraternities

So that’s awesome I love that right um he was like but you know they’re like I really want us to bring that kind of crowd in here so we need to like hire that kind of people you know some of those and so that’s how I was I was like okay

Yeah like I’m definitely looking at college students you know people a little bit younger and he was like no you know there’s like a lot of like really pretty like sorority girls and they’re like he started calling out some of the organizations I’m like oh so what

You’re telling me right it wasn’t no do that you want me to focus on no you want me to focus on hiring some white sorority girls I’m like am I understanding that correctly he was like I mean I wouldn’t said it that way but yeah you know like that’s did though you

Did you did and and honestly like I walked away that day and I reflected on it I talked to my mom about it and I talked to a mentor about it and I talked to a friend about it and it bothered me it bothered me because the the

Statements that had been used to describe black people were like rough resume um um you know they their background’s a little little shaky you know what I’m not a fan of urban it feels like a cuss word it definitely feels like a cuss word because always it always feels like code name black

Like how can I say black without saying black like what does that even mean say black without you know for the urban community for the urban crowd and and you know that company was big on that that company was big on saying Urban and urban crowd and urban urban attire and

Stuff like that and it’s like you know we just call it Street Wear right like you can just say street wear and it doesn’t have to be anything more than that but then no no no it had to be the urban we’re we’re trying to get our Urban demographic okay so I just

Remember having this conversation with him the next day after he said what he said and I asked him I said are you familiar with the term microaggression and he was like no I can’t say that I am and I like I had a feeling you might say that so if you’re

Open to it I would like to use this as an opportunity to share with you what a microaggression is and how I experienced them working for this company because for me I’d experienced many times having higher ups say oh he’s so well spoken oh

He’s so oh my gosh oh I just love the way he interacts with people what you think I was going to come up here yeah what up my [ __ ] is that what you thought I was going to do like is that what we thought was happening here like

You thought I was going to come in and it was [ __ ] [ __ ] ho and tricks like is that what we thought was about even if it was like you think my phone isn’t going to be in silence that’s my thing like and I think it was just so it was it was frustrating

Because even when he made the comment about this particular candidate’s background being rough her resume being rough it was because she’ worked in food I saidwell you do know I worked in food right like my background is food and he was like oh but you’re different you’re

Not the same kind of it wasn’t the same kind of experienceis comes in because hers was a little bit more like fast food and as you know mine was a little more like casual dining yeah so it was it was just really for me like that’s been how I’ve experienced how I’ve

Experienced racism as a manager but then again as just an employee in a company I work for a a company that is definitely on the bougier side and so I deal with a lot of like people who got some coin and who have some entitlement and privilege

To match it yeah and their white privilege is always showing because you can see people be like oh I need you could have possibly help me I need to speak with the manager and I’m like I am the manager yeah you know like there have been many times I’ve had to be like

But I am the manager like right like how can I help you that’s been like for me it has been it has been one of those things where because I was I was raised to have a good understanding of who I am and even now at this age and have been matured yes

Certain things don’t bother me the way that they did I just kind of nip them in the butt like there’s certain games that just don’t play and I will be real nice nasty with you in a heartbeat to let you know no ma’am no sir and I think that’s

Why like activism is so important and it’s it’s kind of crazy because right in the space that we’re in right now with our generation and like with Gen Z and all that just as a culture where we are it’s it’s kind of polarizing it’s it

It’s been and I feel like it was also that way back then where it’s like there was always something polarizing about whatever we were doing and the people who don’t want us to progress always harp on whatever that is like whether it be the Dr King versus Malcolm X to be

Nonviolent or violent whether it be WB EB de boy and Booker T washing to conform or to not conform whether it be like now where you have people who they feel like because of where we are that racism isn’t still happening or systemic racism is not a thing right and so they

Don’t feel like or they or they feel like oh Protestant isn’t going to do anything but there’s never that biger conversation of like okay so what are you give us an idea like telling us what we are doing is it gonna work but you’re not bringing any type of ideas you’re

Not participating so we don’t really value your opinion or idea you’re just kind of like or you have like people now you would see before you can look at artists from like 50s 60s 70s and it’s usually gonna say like singer activist activist you know what I’m saying

Actress activist or you know what I’m saying whereas now a lot of the entertainers feel so far removed once they get they’ll be like oh I don’t I can’t relate to that or they feel like they’re it just it ain’t for them they don’t relate to that but then you see

Stuff like where ASAP Rocky got arrested and he he was face with the reality of like sir you’re still black to these people you’re still black you know what I’m saying whereas before he was acting like oh I don’t I can’t relate I don’t go through that me and my people getting

Money we and it’s like you and your people may be getting money but you don’t even realize that you’re experien it that but you’re so happy with what you have because you come from nothing that you just cool with what you got not even realizing that your counterpart

Over here who don’t look like you is doing better or getting more you’re not even seeing it you know what I’m saying so that’s that’s something that I’ve been noticing it’s so crazy to me how like with Millennials I see this push of people waking up but then there’s also

The push back of like nothing’s really happening things are better now we’re good now and it’s like it’s such a weird space to be in because while what they have fought for on the surface looks you know we have more access to and we can speak out more we have a voice now

Because of social media and things like that but at the same time they’ve also found other ways to silence us we discussed in the previous episode about how entertainment in the 90s yeah it was popping and black people was doing their thing but then you had these laws and

Stuff that were being passed and you didn’t have anybody fight well I’m not gonna say anybody but a lot of people weren’t speaking out or using their voice to speak out because they was just so happy that like like we in here now we made it you know what I’m saying it’s

Crazy to even think about it’s wild because like you said like in the 60s in the 70s in the 80s um oh wow um in the 60s in the 70s in the 80s there were so many artist SL activists there were so many and now it seems like that’s almost

Relegated specifically the conscious musicians and Neo and they call it conscience like the fact that it’s even got you know what say it’s a whole and it’s a it has a look now it does it’s got locked hair probably smells like pachulia or Nampa and you know you know it might have a

Little facial hair if it’s masculine or if it’s masculine presenting it’s probably have a you know a t-shirt with a fist on it or an ankle around the neck I mean like it’s it’s interesting and I think you know we can’t talk about activism and not talk about like in

Modern in our modern era what we’ve experienced in the past few years years we’ve had people like Hendrick Lamar and J Cole and and and Killer Mike and Jennifer Lewis getting out there getting out there getting people to vote getting people to peacefully protest trying to

Like I remember and I’m I’m sure it was a viral video so I’m sure you probably saw it the video where Kiki Palmer got in between protesters and the police and they had a conversation and they had like literally like okay well let’s let’s all get on a knee together and

Have this conversation and I love that that’s how they were able to get on the same page and it was crazy cuz people was in the comments complaining complaining but this is the thing we realize I think we I think it’s a highlight on it now because there’s

Social media but I feel like it was those people back then because I always think about The Boondocks episode where like they went and they were supposed to be doing like I don’t know if they was doing like a sit in or something or protesting or something like that but

Like the like Granddad showed up with a raincoat on and so all the processes was like eating him up like why would you come but he like y’all knew they was bringing water holes like why you don’t have one exactly there’s always going to be nay Sayers there’s always people who have a

Problem like there’s always going to be people who have a problem and it’s just interesting because I even think about there people who come through and they’ve been demonized their activism like absolutely demonized I can’t help but think about Angela Davis and as Shakur like I can’t help but think about

This I can’t help but think about Bob Marley you know I can’t help but think about how they were demonized and villainized on a major scale because they had things that they wanted to fight for they had things that they that were important to them that maybe just

Didn’t match the status quo or didn’t match what the you know we feel like you should be talking about you know that’s what you should be talking about and there’s so many names that we should be calling more that we don’t even think about James Baldwin and how for his time

He was ahead of the curve you know like he was so ahead of the curve because again this is another openly gay black man who is considered one of the most intellectual minds of his time WR I mean a phenomenal writer phenomenal writing books about same-sex relationships writing books with black female pregnant

Teenage leads I mean if Bill Street could talk hello this man was ahead of the curve and again he too was demonized and villainized for as intelligent as eloquently spoken as he was it was just again another like no matter how many times how we present ourselves or how we

Press the shirt or how nice the tie is done or how cute the suit is how really wonderfully you puffed your your afro it’s never going to be enough because there’s going to be not just naysayers from the outside but the community within the community that you’re representing the community that you’re

Defending you’re gonna have so many naysayers they’re gonna be loud they’re gonna be so loud goe oh no no no go ahead go ahead go ahead I was GNA say like even if you think about and that’s that’s another thing too I need y’all to educate y this

This new thing of like get you a ketta I need people to understand what they saying when they’re saying get you a ketta because ketta Scott King was not a steeper wife she wasn’t sitting at home baking cookies okay and I think what people are missing is that for one she

Was highly educated a lot of those black women back then that were married to leaders were educated women and were Educators they were working as professors or teachers they were already part of this movement how you think these people are coming together they not looking for somebody that’s just

Gonna bake a little cookie and just hand out cookies at the protest no they looking for people that’s on the front line that understand what we’re fighting for ketta Scott King I believe her sister was the first black person at Antioch when they were integrating that

That um college and she came in after she was her sister her older sister I think her name was Edith but don’t don’t quote me don’t quote me but her sister was the the I don’t remember if it was the first black person or first black woman but to they were integrated an

Yach and she she went there and she was one of the first black people to go there and ketta Scott Keen ended up going after her but like she she wanted to be a singer but she understood also what black people were fighting for in

That moment and she chose to put her own dreams and goals that she’d had since a child to the side not for Martin not for Dr Martin was respect his day not for him but because she understood what it meant to liberate our people she knew

What she was fighting for she was a part of the NAACP when she was in school she was already her family even her father being a black business owner and having to deal with he owned like a a sawmill or something like that and because he wouldn’t sell the white people they

Burned it down like she understood what that experience is or you see somebody like Betty shabaz who went from Detroit and then went to school to skegee in Alabama for the first time and she saw first here like oh period coming from Milwaukee to Mississippi I people when I tell you

Going from the north to the South is like going from microaggression to just aggression there’s nothing micro about it you’re gonna know that you’re not wanted and they ain’t feeling it you gonna know it’s not gonna be no question you’re not gonna have to be like did she

Was this shade was this you’re gonna know it’s going to be very blatant and so it’s like when people are saying and get you a ketta y’all ain’t even y’all ain’t even Martin fighting for the y’all not fighting for your people you’re not using your voice to do anything did you

Hear her Jonathan did you hear her Jonathan nothing like what are you using your voice for do you even understand the type of woman that that is come on now people don’t even understand that Dr King his dad didn’t even want to him to marry her at first they was the feel she

Was very much she was a part of the women’s movie she supported lgbtq she was she was an advocate outspoken she was some of y’all ain’t even that but y’all want a Cora come on now like let’s be for real like put some respect on her

Name because she was not just some prop she was not just somebody that was just standing by cheering on the side lines she was on the front lines she’s very active in the Civil Rights Movement Like very active like just as many marches just as many meetings just as many

Conversations maybe not as many speeches publicly as we would think like you know that Martin did maybe not is or Dr King rever brother Dr King that that is that is my my fraternity brother so I can call him a little Reverend brother um rever brother

Doctor U as we call I think it it’s important like it’s important to look at the like you said the full picture of who people are because like I I read uh or I listened because y’all know I’m audible I’m an audible fan I listen to ketta Scott King’s um her her Auto

Iography her Memoir beautiful beautiful storytelling cuz she did actually she could been correcting me CU I feel like I said some stuff wrong I don’t think I think you were no I think you were right on track because the thing about it is she did go to school for music she

Graduated and got her degree in music that’s what she was going to do and she still used her music throughout the Civil Rights music people don’t know how much singing she was doing and you got to think about if you look at the movie um um

Selma Dr King was like he was known to call mahelia Jackson to sing to him when he was in a low space because of the type of voice that she had ketta was an opera singer period and she sang a lot like they sang at home all the time it

Was a lot of This Little Light of Mine honey we F we F to brighten this light because you have to think about how also how volatile it was to be with the consider one considered one of the most dangerous men in America at the time so they were having

Woman that would have to be able to be to be with that man and then survive him listen and same with legac and then survive him and like you said carry on his legacy and raise his children period because bet continue continue to be the mouthpiece of the movement because in

Both cases when those when those legendary prominent leaders were assassinated because they both those were calculated assassinations by the government allegedly there’s more information out now that we it’s not okay um so when you look at them they both not only had that charge that had to be

Carried out after the passings of their husbands but they did they carried them out they raised those children they were mouthpieces for the movement they were appr they were behind the scenes approvers of the movement after their husbands were killed yeah we need to talk to K about this we

Need to talk to to to Betty about this this needs to come up this needs to be another conversation this need be another thing so it’s really interesting like I’m glad you brought that up because that is this there is this whole idea of marrying you a ketta marrying

You a a Michelle Obama do you not realize people did y’all see what Michelle Obama was doing while her husband was in office she wasn’t just looking cute out here in these streets her own platform her own areas of importance and this is a a if you were

To ask Barack he would tell you she was the better lawyer she trained him she was his boss keep in mind she also practiced law longer than him push all of his elections exactly and it’s like people miss the fact that like we live in a patriarchy and especially back then before women’s

Rights of course they’re not going to prop the women up publicly the men are going to be the face of it because that’s going to be what’s more accepted socially but the women were right there on the front even if you think about the if you pay attention to the Black

Panthers like of course you’re gonna a lot of people think of the imagery of like seeing the men and the guns blah blah blah but there were women AI Shakur she was their lawyer on her own okay and she didn’t go to nobody’s law school she

Defended them on her own and won like put some respect on her name please like I need y’all to understand that like all of this and I think now because we have these these gender Wars going on which is ridiculous to me I don’t understand why black people do it in particular

Because it’s like if you look at your history we didn’t have a choice but to fight side by side we didn’t have a choice because we were fighting for everybody and it’s like I’m sure that like back then there were probably people who got their success and was

Like I’m going to keep it safe over here I got my little job I’m just going to play it cool so it’s like I I get that there were probably people then they just obviously they’re not going to be spoke about because they wasn’t there but it’s like

People have to understand that gender when it comes to us as people gender is is the least of our concerns it’s not even a concern because at the end of the day they don’t care you’re still black you’re still black you’re still gonna be

Black you be black at the of it all and it’s like I don’t understand how people don’t don’t get that or see that or how people don’t do their own due diligence of research of your own history to even know the people that Shaka Khan was a

Black panther like saying come on now saying I think it’s really interesting that you brought that up because I wanted to give a little timeline I don’t think people really understand when we talk about black activism we’re not just talking about the 60s you know we’re not just talking about what happened with

Civil rights because literally black people have been involved with activism since the beginning so country since we got here countries established 17 1976 we’re we’re we’re a whole thing woo go America and then we get to this point where finally the conversations surrounding slavery are happening that was the Abolitionist

Movement for those who don’t know an Abolitionist Movement was about the abolishing of slavery which led to the 13th Amendment of course but that was a whole movement that required its own group of activists yes there were white ones I’m not going to act like we did

Not have a conference Journey there were definitely allies and accomp that were white they were definitely there but this was a movement that because of the black people involved and there’s two I really want to highlight from abolition there were so many doulas is involved in

That there’s so I mean so many but the two that I really want to shout out specifically are black women and I think it’s important because their impact you just can’t look over their impact and their continued impact after the fact Harriet Tubman is the most influential active

Of all time I don’t care what anyone says we’re always going to talk about MLK we’re always going to talk about Malcolm X we’re always going to talk about Rosa but we can’t not talk about haret tub we about them without bringing up because without the Underground Railroad without the fight without the

The the fight and the drive that this woman had to sneak in and out repeatedly numerous I mean hundreds of trips from the north to the south I mean from the south to the north to the north to the South to for rescuing people escap bringing people to Freedom literally to Freedom

Like literally bringing them to Freedom that’s what she was doing and she was risking her life every single time you know how bold you got to be to make it up north and come back like and do it again over again I mean and she had to

Know what she like you had she had to know her path she and what we talked about in the previous episode I remember like I had this word come to me it was like a download and it was like when you know your path when you are in your path

In your lane minding your business the things that you accomplish look completely different than when you’re trying to mind everybody else business sometimes we have to just really align ourselves with what it is we’ve been put here to do and and harri tman is a great example of someone who

Aligned themselves with the calling that was put on their life and because of it she was able to make a difference for all of us all of us colored folk you know um and the other one I want to bring up that I don’t think ever gets enough talk ever gets enough

Conversation ever gets enough Spotlight on her and sojourn her truth not enough people talk about the impact this woman had not just on abolition because she was huge when it came to abolition and she was one of those figures like Harriet Tubman they scared people okay

She was tall like so J truth was tall this was a like she was an Amazon and she would get up on that stage and she would whether it were poems or speeches or whatever she had to do to let people know why the importance of abolition she

Would but it’s important to bring her up because for the women who tune into our show suffrage was the next step of of activism for black people yeah with suffrage which was women’s right to vote women would not have gotten their right to vote without the black women they got

Involved period you know we talk about the Susan B Anthony and the um there’s a CLA lady I can’t remember her name right now but we talk about those ladies all speak on her people don’t but like you you women would not have the right to vote without women like Sojourner Truth

Joining that charge without you know Harriet Tubman and so many black women because again they fought for the right to vote but the right to vote came for all women it didn’t just come for white women when it came it came for all women and it’s crazy because as soon as the

Right to vote became a thing for women white women immediately like okay thanks black lady literally they like okay thanks bye we’re done appreciate that thanks for the numbers J is um see on the other side um but it’s it’s wild because after suffrage so we go we go abolition we go

Suffrage you know we have the whole era that was after that got real rough for the country we had two World Wars The Great Depression honey Jim Crow became established in the South and then we start leading into the big monster the HTH that was the civil rights movement

And people always talk about Rosa Parks which there’s no denying Rosa Parks impact I’ve been making this joke at work all week and I don’t think it’s tasteless but I’m also black black so I’m gonna say it white people will say stuff to me and

I’d be like in the words of Rosa Parks no and I walk off like all the time start using it all the time I just be like no it’s black history Mar and I don’t have to do it but I I love throwing that Rosa Parks quote out there

But I think that so many people know about Rosa Parks if they don’t realize Rosa Parks was really just the most famous person to say no the most famous woman to to refuse to give up her seat yeah before her she was the first though was she was definitely not the first

Yeah there were three women before her within like a few years time four years before her there was a woman named Lily may Bradford here in Alabama come on might be a cousin you know we might have some might some bloodline you know might be some connection but she four years

Prior she said no and she was arrested so then that same year eight months prior um no at the beginning of the year there was a 15-year-old Claudette Calvin she’s one of the most she’s the second most famous woman that have said no and refused her seat um she’s 15 years old

Arrested I didn’t know she was 15 15 the next one eight months before Rosa was Aurelia brow another woman arrested she said no Rosa par was in December of 1955 there had been at least three women prior to her at least who had all been arrested and there’s a lot of

Conversation and we’ve talked about before and I’m not putting my goal here is not to put any any shade on Rosa Park’s Legacy because that is a phenomenal Legacy because not only need it was all needed was very needed and because of because of Rosa the Montgomery Bus Boycott became a thing

And Martin Luther King got involved in the movement and Civil Rights Movement happened the way that it so it really sparked the shift in civil rights but we also have to look at some things that were very prevalent in our country and in our community at the time and

Colorism is still a thing that gets us it’s still a thing that catches us up and it was a thing that caught us up then Rosa Parks was light-skinned as compared to some of those other women and so her being of lighter complexion made it a little bit easier the Optics

Again we’re back at that word Optics yeah people that been saying no been refusing to give up their seat but Rosa in particular was this woman a sress who had worked hard and she said no and I think for some of them they saw this is

A great photo opportunity for us to go ahead and jump on this thing you know I don’t see how we couldn’t do it Dr King I don’t see how we can’t do it now you know and and it just kind of still one of those things that you look at and

When we tell our story we have to tell the whole story you know we have to tell The Good the Bad and the Ugly and that’s an aspect of the story that’s a little ugly um but that’s important because the Civil Rights Act led to the Voting

Rights Act so now we’re no longer being hassled at the polls we’re no longer being given wrong directions we’re no longer be giving literacy literacy T to vote we’re no longer be giving like even voting in Sun in Sun downtowns was like a thing like it would be difficult

Because they would give you the hard like you’d have to go the furthest to vote knowing the sun’s going to go down while you’re there or on your way there on your way back it’s just itself like sometimes just reading and it’s you know I get it I’m G to say

Something very unpopular and controversial right now and I’m just prefacing it with that that little disclaimer I get why there are white people who don’t want us to talk about black history because when you start talking about the true ugliness that is our history you start really looking

With a side eye everybody and everything that has happened in the past 400 years in this country everything comes into question and then you s side ey the people who refuse to acknowledge their privilege or act like these things are not happening oh it’s over these things aren’t happening anymore I don’t know

What they’re talking about yeah everybody’s free now course B you would say that Bob you would say that Bob um and and it just it’s it’s it’s frustrating but it’s also one of those things I think we still have opportunity here to continue to to be activist and

To continue to do you know activism in this modern way and and and and voting equity and civil rights also led us to what would be a big movement during the 80s and 90s and that was conversations around the lgbtq community as well as the HIV aids crisis and we start seeing

People who had never gotten a spotlight for activism getting Spotlight like again James Baldwin being a major voice um as an AIDS Advocate and someone who is an advocate for lgbtq rights and and and keep in mind in the 70s and 80s it was illegal to be anything other than

Straight period it was illegal just like it was illegal to marry someone of A different race it was illegal to be in relationship with anyone of the same sex it was illegal they would they would kill people and arrest them over this and charge them

Y mind flowing and we also had you know the rise of more like of course drag became more of a thing in the 80s and in early 90s but like we also started having these major powerhouses like Mara P Johnson phenomenal Queen who helped initiate and Inspire and catalyze the

Stonewall incident and those like you don’t you I look at moments like that that are crazy like the riots and the incidents and I don’t look at them like yay we did that but I also do look at them like yay we did that you know like

These are moments where we got fed up enough that enough was enough and we just had to we had to let y’all know y’all not g to come up here and run nothing absolutely we’ve had enough and I think too like I even with I think they kind of evolved how activism was

Going on too because you saw people who were getting opportunities in entertainment using their entertainment to send out a message whether it be a coded message or just an outright message you know what I’m saying and even if you think like in the 90s like I

Don’t I don’t know how much you watched Martin but he used to always he would always wear like black college sweatshirts and stuff like that he always had black artists and stuff like that yeah like there they started to kind of evolve the way that they were

Doing it to fit wherever they were and I I really appreciate that and I even think now with social media we’ve used it while it’s a gift and a curse it’s able to give us voice I remember being in college when the Trayvon Martin thing happened yes and Millennials were like

Absolutely not I mean complete up over it and it was so good to see though because it was like it just was a reminder of like okay we we haven’t strayed too far and when it’s time to come together we are going to come together we still and even to see our

Generation I’m like okay are we we care we’re aware we’re paying attention like it was it was beautiful to see everybody coming together it was beautiful to see everybody protesting together and really standing together and having a unified voice together I hate that it takes injustices

To do it because it should be a consistent thing but I think with the way I and I feel like even with the rise in we talked about the rise of entertainment in the 90s I feel like there was a moment where people felt like oh like we did it I think people

Got comfortable because they started seeing so many black it was like oh we did it and it’s like we did but we didn’t because they just found another way they found another way you know I’m saying they’ll always find another way they changed their strategy that’s all

It was and it’s like just as many times as they change their strategy we have to change ours it’s literally that like get complacent we can’t get complacent we can’t get comfortable there’s no room for Comfort anymore like we’ve never honestly had room to get comfortable so what missing we’re not missing anything

We’ve never been comfortable here we because we don’t belong here so it’s like now that we’re here our legacies are here our ancestry is here we have to make this work for us and not just work for us but let’s make it let’s make it something that it’s never been which is

Why I’m like excited about the modern face of activism in some cases now there’s some cases where it’s just bothers me get to my nerves makes my head hurt um and that’s me just getting older but there they’re people like um which you know we’re now in this current

Phase of activism um where we’re talking about things like police and prison reform which they’ve been doing prison and police reform for a long time but we’re honestly having more conversations in a way that I think we might start to see some type of impact because of how

Many people are getting behind it now again this is we’re talking good old boys club and Old Boys rules so we’re really having to we’re really fighting an uphill battle here but it doesn’t mean we’re not fighting it doesn’t mean we can’t win because if you’ve ever been

On a stationary bike when it starts going uphill you have to find that you got to find that Reserve energy and you got to push and once you get to the top of the hill guess what you do you come down the hill and it’s a lot

Easier I think about the inspiring story of um Bri Newsome I don’t know if you’re familiar with Bri Newsome but she like she she went into infamy if you will white infamy black fame um when she um was protesting in South Carolina over the fact that there was uh still a

Confederate flag at the state house and they’re protesting appr and I actually listened to an interview Jamal Hill interviewed her and hearing the interview it was phenomenal to hear this young woman just talk because she knew she said I knew it like we were talking about and we’ already had this we’ had

This idea that somebody needed to climb the F flag pole somebody needed to climb the flag pole and rip down that Confederate flag and she was the one to do it and they voted on her because originally I think it was going to be a

White man they were going to have do it because they were like well it’s less likely that they’re going to shoot him you know like he’s more likely to survive the incident you know they were they were considering that like okay you know and I think they had actually

Picked somebody else but In the Heat of the Moment In in the way that things played out it became her calling to be the one to climb that flag pole and again it catapulted her into black famey um because she ripped it down she spent some time in a little time I think

In jail because I think they they got her for some type of being Federal property doing something crazy some type of bogus charge I think was eventually dropped but because of that level of of protest that level of what somebody call radical which was not really that radical but that level of radicalism

They no longer have a Confederate flag at speaking of Confederate flags and radicalism I was actually I don’t know if you remember what went down at Stone Mountain Park here in Georgia hearing I was working there at the time I had to go to and I remember so

Before the every because we basically knew that there was going to be a protest there was going to be things going on and they told us like my manager was like listen if y’all don’t feel comfortable and y’all don’t feel safe I can’t make you

Come but when I tell you just see like the level that I saw of people literally riding just riding through with their Confederate flags with all of these exp was written on the sides of they stuff and and it was just it was one of those moments for me

Where it’s like it’s a reminder that while on the surface it may look like we’ve gone so far there is still so far to go so far to go because the only thing that it’s done is put those people in hiding you saw it when we had the

Cheeto for a president those people came out of hiding they were loud they were proud they had their Flags out they were doing it they were excited they were harassing people and then as soon as they ate all the Cheetos and wasn’t no more Cheetos they went back radio silent

So it’s like it’s not like we’ve necessarily evolved and it’s and I wonder how some people even feel like at that time see I remember when he got elected and there was like w women coming into my job and trying to make it I guess they was trying to like save

Face because they was talking to this little black girl and for me I’m like I would rather y’all not even bring like don’t try to tell me that you’re on my side like don’t even bring it up because at the end of the day when I see you I

See your husband and I know and I also know the percentages of who voted for what come on percent don’t even bring it to me because majority white women and majority white men are put him in the White House and and there were so many white women who were expected to vote

Differently that voted for that man under the the cover of oh the the ballots are private nobody has to know and their issue with him wasn’t even about us it was about women’s rights and how he treated women it was that was what they were upset about and it’s like

You you’re not even my thing is like I’m thinking because I’m black then I’m a woman but it’s like you only care because you you see the the type of rhetoric he’s done towards women the type of things he’s been accused of that’s what you’re affected about you’re

Not g to get me again like you did them with with women’s rights and try to use me to be on your side end the day you gonna leave me hanging can’t fool me sister this is the crazy thing about I’m so glad you said that because literally any movement that

Has come they’ve almost always tried to get black women first because black women are almost always the heartbeat of any and every movement that they’re involved in and as soon as black women get involved help get that movement where it needs to go BL dropped you’re

No longer a priority um we we decided to go in a different direction of course you did you were originally going in a different direction anyway so it’s like it just it bothers me because it’s we we’re at the face of another movement right now so there’s a woman um and I’ve

Done a little research on her and I’m really continue reading more about her Christine Michelle Carter and I really hope it’s Michelle and not Mich or Michael or Mitchell I don’t know but I think it’s her middle name so we’re going to say it’s Michelle Christine Michelle Carter and she’s written

Numerous articles and she’s been very heavily involved in advocating for working parents for women’s maternal rights and specifically for maternal hell and she would be the one that y’all those who might have seen the interview with um with uh vice president Harris and and there was a lady who interviewed

Her and they talked about um you know the the the maternal um black black maternal mortality thank you thank you the black maternal mortality it’s almost a tongue twister but they were the they this is who I’m talking about and she’s done a lot of work specifically in in

Creating a space for mothers in the workplace and not just mothers in the workplace Fathers as well working parents but also like how are we going to address our issue of the rate at which black women are dying in the hospital giving birth to their children

How are we going to address that and I think that that’s another big advocacy divisa moment that we’re having right now because black women are dying at horid I mean the most horrendous rates black female mortality rates when it comes to their pregnancies are ridiculous it’s something that like this

Country really has to get behind and and honestly if you look at just our ugly history of what they thought about us this whole time the experimenting the the things like the Tuskegee experiment things like um the way in which doctors would experiment on black on black

Slaves with no anesthesia to see how things worked and how things happened or the stealing of our bodies and our cells like Henrietta LAX and the heila cells like they’ve always had a disrespect when it comes to our bodies but they’ve always felt that we’re stronger that we

Can take more pain because they can handle it they’re they’re just dramatic they’re just loud they’re fine and it bothers me that there’s so many black mothers who complain about pain who complain about how they’re feeling who let who trying to inform their doctor about their actual pain so many I even

Think about for me for sure it’s a little it’s a little messy I guess if you will but recently Dr Jackie off of medic come came under a lot of like she came under a lot of scrutiny understandably so because now we have to question what have you done your entire

Career when it comes to black women have you have you go ahead what I was going to say is because I’m a I see I’m play Devil’s Advocate but I also don’t agree with her so let me basically I feel like what she was trying to say

Which was still in my opinion wrong was like people trying to like come in and they’ll like lie about symptoms and stuff to get like doctor’s notes and stuff like that but my thing is first of all that that has nothing to do with race right like if you’re gonna people

Do that people have fake doctor’s notes all the that has nothing to do with race all the time second of all if I’m a pregnant woman and I just don’t want to go to work today I should be able to just not go to work today you know what

I’m saying and it’s no disrespect to her I think once you experience something like that what your body goes through how you feel mentally emotionally and what you don’t have control of which I’m sure she has knowledge of to an extent because she’s a OBG y am but it’s like

When you experience that sometimes you like I should be able to be like I don’t feel it today I’m tired my feet swo I’m hurting I’m I’m mentally not there I just don’t want to go and that should be okay and I think people minimize what you go through when you’re pregnant I

Had to advocate for myself personally and my job to the point where they literally I’m a part of management training now because I went to HR on my store manager at the restaurant that I worked at because he had the audacity to try me a a few times let’s be clear it

Was older why he came in and he tried me a few times the first time he tried me he made a comment about oh Asian women they they work in the rice fields when they’re pregnant and I looked him dead in his face and said I’m not a Slave

Come on now I’m not as SL correction you think they want to be in the rice field you idiot like are you kidding me and then the second time I was literally in the kitchen minding my business getting food for my people and this was at a

Time I literally when I tell y’all like I’m not even joking like Bible right hand I was working circles around these servers and I was I was literally bartending doing to go host like I’m running circles around these people to the point where like it was days where

We were so staff that the front of the house manager is in the kitchen and I’m the The Unofficial front of the house manager just because I have on a red shirt that says I’m a trainer and people just gonna come to me because my shirt look different from everybody else’s and

It’s like I had literally been commended on how hard I was working and how much they wouldn’t have been able to get through those that time without me and then the maybe like two days later I kid y’all not I’m in the kitchen minding my business I’m about to walk back out take

Some food out and he said he stopped me and he was like he was just sitting in the office and he was like when’s your due date and I told him and he was like I’m gonna cut your days down I was like no you’re not and I just walked off but

He didn’t understand the calculations that was going on in my head at that moment because for me that was your final try on me you tried me for the last time it just so happened Not only was there a manager sitting in there with him so what I did me being

Strategic when the the next shift manager came in that day and I stopped I pull her to the side I said how do you think my work has been lately do you think my work has gotten bad do you think I’ve been slacking since I’ve been

Pregnant and she was like no like we literally haven’t been like we wouldn’t have been able to do what we’ve been able to do if you weren’t here like you’ve been doing great I don’t think you switched up at all or I was like I’m glad you said that because he was just

Saying that he wanted to cut my days and I’m not okay with that so she gave me I asked her for like the information for the HR people so I called the HR lady and I put on my best voice and I milked I’m like he said he’s GNA cut my days

And I have a baby on the way and I don’t know what I’m going to do and I get the money and oh I milked it oh I MIL it to the ball do y’all know I came back to work to an apology an apology and minimum my days and became a

Part of training because you can’t try pregnant people because they didn’t want a lawsuit you cannot do that so I think the one of the important things is not only to be an activist the first step of being an act activist is to advocate for yourself stand up for yourself and once

You start to stand up for yourself it’ll be so much easier in second nature to stand up for other people understand what your rights are understand what can and cannot be tolerated draw a line set your boundaries and stand on it and at the end of the day don’t operate from a

Lack mindset because God is gonna protect you either way if you in the right and you do it right and your heart is in the right place God gonna make sure you straight I I’m so glad you said that soad they never said and I milked

It back I used to come I started coming to work late I about 15 minutes late since you want to try me and I know you can’t fire me that I used to have me a little chair behind the bar like I’m G sit down I’m going to relax because my

Feet be hurting like and and you’re not gonna say anything I think it’s so important like that you gave them the full story because it’s when we do advocate for ourselves it it doesn’t always plan out that it it works out but in a situation like that and even with

My situation with that company that I worked with the way it ended was ultimately I ended up leaving the company a few months later but before leaving they created an entire group to educate the company it was the diversity equity and inclusion committee and this was a group of of peers you know

Managers and employees and and people from corporate coming together and the very first lesson that they gave the whole company was on microaggressions so you can tell me to my face that I you would have fired me if you had the opportunity but you can also you can

Also show me without saying a word that you realize you learned something that day that maybe the rest of these racist white people who work in your company could benefit from and not get y screwed up because that could have been a whole different kind of situation if I wanted

To take it there and um I think it’s perfect because we’re going to get ready for our trivia we have our trivia coming up in just a second y’all so I think it’s perfect we’re get ready for our trivia but I think it’s just so great

Like that there as a culture as a community so we’ve always had leaders in activism and I don’t think that’s something that’s ever going to change is going to stop because our activist just they just change the they just change the look we you know every new every new

Age comes around and we have a new age of activism honey and they find the problems and they address them and they bring them to our bring them to our attention bring it to the Forefront and say this is unacceptable and we as a people got to do something about it and

I’m here for every bit of it because we are an impassioned people we are people who are lit by fire who move by the spirit and in many cases get [ __ ] done that way yes and so I just hope that we continue that Legacy especially as we

Step into this new age of of activism addressing things like police reform prison reform our education system and how lackluster it is and the the issues that we I mean even reparations coming up in conversation I think that that’s really interesting because some form of reparations needs to happen for

Ancestors of slaves absolutely absolutely do you know that they actually in other countries and I think in the UK they might have done this but in other countries that they have um they’re starting to sign bills into place place to pay reparations to ancestors of slaves in their countries

No I did not know that it’s it’s becoming more of a conversation globally that these colonizers are having to address there’s a city or it’s a state one of them I think I know California is talking about it California’s brought reparations to the table and as a state has decided they’re

Going to do something about it but there’s a city I think there’s a city I think that has approved um a a whole conversation a whole structure on how they’re going to approach reparations and I know some people like oh you don’t need 40 ACR and mule at this point it’s

Not about the 40 acres and the MU specifically it’s about the fact that we have people who our people have endured and we’re still they died for this landed buried underneath fought for this land they’re in Lake lir they’ve been flooded out for this land the Civil War

We’ve been involved in every single War this country’s been in and have fought for absolutely on the front lines on the front lines without having rights ex imagine coming home from war and not being toot come home from war and being discriminated against and locked up for a lering law because Jim

Crow exists where you’re from like it’s just mindblowing and I think what people need to understand too when they talk about reparations I don’t know if a lot of people know this but when slavery was abolished like that was something that Native Americans did for the slaves that

They had was give them land on their reservations like they G it wasn’t like because I think what people need to understand too you look at like places like the Caribbean and then you look at places like America when slavery was abolished we were still here with the people nothing nothing changed with

Their mentality nothing changed about how they felt they didn’t leave it’s not a predominantly black country you know what I’m saying we we still had to be here with those same people and we had nothing so we still had to depend on those people some people stayed as

Slaves what was they going to do where was they going to go they were indentured servants indent service yeah IND Pennies on the dollar exactly so it’s like I think people need to understand too because I seen tyres know if you saw him talk about how

He want to be Latino because he don’t understand why we as a people as black people don’t put Family First like the Latin Community does and I’m like and then there were people in the comments agreeing talking about yeah because black people be on BS and black people

And it’s like do you understand where you come from what you come from do you understand that your people were intentionally oppressed and intentionally were not giv opportunities do you understand that when these people come from other countries they’re able to get business loans and stuff that we

Can’t get just off the street that we’re black like come on like educate yourselves for him to say something like that during Black History Month just talk I mean like cuz that is that’s so disheartening because literally if you just look at the legacy of our country

And I promise y’all we’re going to get to these these trivia questions it’s going to be exciting and we have a we have a a bomb for the culture this episode but it’s like it’s really disheartening because when you look at it the legacy of our country it has

Always been about black men dying being brought back to their black mothers or black wives for their bodies to be cleaned and presented or displayed for because I think about emit I think about I think about I still can’t look at their picture to this you know like I’ve

Seen it too many times already and I maybe only seen it five times in my life and that’s way too many times because that actually happened and for someone to fix their mouth publicly with a platform or not to fix your mouth publicly and say that you would rather

Be your black ass M sorry cuz you blackity black buddy black black buddy and you have the nerve to say you would rather be A different race because of how family oriented they are insane what insane how about you not also realize the intentional and strategic dissolution of the black family that has

Happened over the past 400 years I mean just starting with the Lynch papers and house to oh I’m mad oh I’m mad mass incarceration mass incarceration like but then want to talk but then people want to talk about oh the black man but then you going to sit up here this black

Man talk Latin black black mouth like they don’t have their own issues that’s how I unfollow you on Spotify right there I promise you that’s the easiest way for you to come right my ignorant thing I’ve ever Black History Month we was on day two done done

Done next topic um like done I’m so uhuh I’m upset I’m upset I’m writing a letter to somebody somebody’s getting a letter somebody is getting a letter I’m going to write a letter I’m right that’s where I got that I’m going to write a letter um that’s exactly where I got that from

So um we’ve got some Tre of y’all D and I have about five questions each and these are questions about activist activism um and we’re really excited because we’re going to ask each other these questions um if you learn something please get in the comments get

On our our socials get in the Q&A here on Spotify or I don’t know if apple has a version of that but maybe they will soon because you know they they might be watching each other so get in the comments in the question and answer section get in the YouTube section let

Us know what you learned if you learned anything and if you have trivia questions you want us to ask what should we have talked about tell us yes come on let us know engage with us talk with us I think it was really cute seeing y’all

Try and guess who that Queen was we were talking about in last week’s for the culture wrong nobody got it right nobody got it right but it was so funny I love that we have the beehive in the comments so I’m going to sh the first question

Cuz I think you started first last week and so my first question is D who wrote is a famous author and activist who wrote The Souls of Black Folk and also started the NAACP who WR the souls okay but it was more but it was more than one people

That started the NAACP he was the primary divorce was a part of it and there was a woman too because I had um let me say her name let me say her name Mary White Ovington was a part of it too it was a fewt who wrote so the black fun though

This is one of the founders of NP y’all don’t take my black card child she literally just said y it’s WB the boys like come on come on I’m like I get not M founder that’s why I said the book and the founder because I’m like if I

Say founder say web the boys but then I’m like but it was more than one person part of that so a black folkus one of his most most famous books um that he’s written but yeah it’s definitely WB so technically I got it right you got it right you got it

Right okay turn turn okay what you got okay so what was used it was it’s a specific name what was used in the South to prevent black people from voting um cuz my mind immediately goes to literacy test it wasn’t that but that’s talking huh I said it wasn’t that

But that’s a mess um was used to keep black people from voting it’s a specific very specific thing it’s very vague a lot of things it’s very very specific though there was I know there was a pole tax there you go oh that was it the PO tax okay I’m like

But there like what’s crazy y’all and I really encourage y’all to do the research on this there were long lists of things that they would do to keep black people from voting ridiculous they every time that black people you got to be able to write

Your first and last name okay so all the black people are learning how to write their name now you got pass you got to pass this history test now you got to pass this now you got to pay a tax you gotta come with like it was ridiculous

Now we’re gonna move your polling place 15 miles down the road knowing you a’t got no car like it was ridiculous um okay next question what event started the modern civil rights movement in the United States you it was a particular event one thing happened in particular that led to

The start the official start of the the um just one specific it was one specific event we talked about it in this episode the um the March or was it Rosa it wasn’t the March it was kind of Rosa so you get half a point it was the

Montgomery Bus Boycott because of Rosa they did the Montgomery Bus Boycott and that’s how MLK got involved and when MLK was involved that’s what led to the initial beginning I was I was between the buses and the March on Washington I’m like it was one of them I don’t know

I think March on Washington was after listen y’all don’t kill me now listen no we’re learning together this is a learning moment for give be so much and you know what it is it’s like you know how when somebody ask you something and your mind go blank like that anxiety

Of like I got to get this right I got to get it right my black cards on the line completely it’s like now you know nothing after you just s it a whole episode and now you know nothing we love it we love it though

Okay so what are the names of the laws that prevented black people from owning property or holding certain jobs um because I’m thinking Jim Crow laws um but it’s probably not those those were specifically laws about segregation and the treatment of black people in the south laws that kept black people from holding

Land and jobs and certain jobs owning property and holding certain jobs owning property and certain jobs um I don’t know that one I Pro I probably do want you say it I I’ll remember it but I can’t remember that they were the Black Codes they were the Black

Codes and that’s so easy they were the Black Codes okay um see I feel like tried to okay so who is the leader I feel like we should have came up with easier stuff so we could have sounded like we knew that’s what I feel like I

Feel like my questions are a little too easy and yours are like bopping me upside the head I’m having to reach back into my Black History flash cards in the back of my head from when I was eight listen you know I got the whole pack of

Like all the black stuff that happened and everything I come from a parent who was black and black oh you know I showed you mine I still got my little pin wheel and all my books and my encyclopedia um who was the leader of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee Snick

And he also played a major um he was a major player in the civil rights movement and he recently passed you think it’s somebody I know what is g lie I never heard of snck I’ve never heard of s yeah SN was huge during that time Snick and thec were two of the

Biggest organizations for starting the Rights Movement umlc was what the oh goodness I can’t believe I just decided to say the acony could not remember again but MLK was the leader of the stlc and John Lewis was the leader of Snick I I’ve heard of thec but I’ve never heard

Of snck I never heard you learn learn something new every day that’s my for the day yes now we have to get off here and do some research come on now okay so this is this is gonna be an easy one what Supreme Court case allowed separate but equal facilities for blacks and

Whites separate but equal was it was not brown V education that was unconstitutional um py versus Ferguson yes yes I had to think about it cuz I’m like I actually wrote them down um those were two very major like legal battles in activism and so like we said p b

Ferguson was um separate but equal but because of py B Ferguson we up with brown V Board of Education which was like it’s not it’s actually unconstitutional how in inequal this is or unequal these conditions are in education so we love we love winning a major court case um I have another easy

One coming for you so who no what organization said Snick was gonna be easy and child she did not I thought it was GNA be easy but I think I was actually don’t purose it by saying easy I should but I think I think I know

You’re going to get this one like I know you’re going to get this one what organization was founded by Huey Newton and Bobby seal and advocated for self-defense and revolutionary activism say that again what organization was founded by Huey Newton and Bobby seal and activated for self-defense and revolutionary activism

Yes the black p party yeah I’m like now you’re going to get that one it was a lot of words it’s a lot of words and I was trying to like shorten it I’m like oh my gosh I was reading like there’s a words here um I was doing compound Bob

Is so you know that’s I knew when I said H Newton and Bob Ste and then revolutionary activism and self-defense I like okay this is all gonna come together oh yeah okay what you got okay H I think we did you do that one already no okay so this

Particular thing occurred to test and break down segregation practices in Interstate Transportation oh um Freedom Rides yes I was trying to think of like how I wanted to word it because I didn’t have it actually worded I just had the actual answer good no that was good that was a

Good one um for those who don’t know the freedom rides were definitely they were these integrated bus rides um that had black and white people on it and typically the black people would be sitting towards the front and the white people towards the back in their unassigned seat

Um but this is how they would go into really hot areas where they knew that there was a chance of violence against them so there were really iconic moments where when they knew they were in a town where they were going to be assaulted the white people would get off the bus

First knowing that they would be the first to get the brunt of the punishment and the violence and that’s very honorable so yes we thank those allies and accomplices um my final question for you and this is a I think this is an easy one but we’ll see stop saying that

I I can’t help it I tried to I tried to okay whatever so here we go um this goes back to us talking about connecting art to activism who is the poet an activist who wrote steal iise empowering African-Americans to overcome adversity okay period Angel listen now the Poetry I be knowing I

Know I know Poetry Club you know what I’m saying she’s WR a little peaceful Sal this like okay she’s gonna get this one woman Maya yes that was it right one more you got one last one okay I’mma give you a different one because my last one is actually the

About black panthers so we kind of the same thing we’ve already done that did that okay so let’s see okay so this woman this black woman was the first black female commissioner to the Board of Public Works what this woman I heard what you said the the first black commissioner of the

Public works is this a name that I knows it should be cause she did more than just that oh well see she was on the board of the NAACP she was on the board of directors while we were alive while we were alive is she still alive she was married to somebody that

Was prominent in the Civil Rights Movement I’m gonna say that this is Keda Scott King this is not correct okay hang on hang on um um I don’t know who this is girl this is merly Evers Williams I was about to say mega Evers Widow I didn’t know her first name and I

Need to do better merly is that her first name is that what you said yes I hope I said it right because you know the the names back in the day used to be a little different come on now they had some Theophilus and some cleophus and there were some tough ones

Back there I hope I said it right no disrespect no disrespect our ancestors and our predecessors um so of course we’ now come to our favorite segment we love a for the culture moment y’all I don’t know why I just felt like I’m here for it you said Exodus is

That what you said okay maybe that’s a song Come On Spirit Speak oh that’s a song it’s it’s from a song but I don’t know why that just came over me we’re here for it um this for the culture is we as yall know we started the the Pod this episode talking about

Biopics and biopics um and there are two that are about to come out that are really exciting like I think that we’re in this era where there’s so many stories of prominent and not so wellknown black people their stories being told I think about green book in

The past couple of years with Mersa Ali which was phenomenal love that but here we and we just talked about Rustin of course but we’ve got two really good ones coming out this year that I’m so excited for um one that I know D is just

Like yes like when I saw the trailer I was like oh my God D is going to lose her [ __ ] like for real for real and it actually fits with what I just said because I didn’t know that that’s the one that you were going to pick to do

For for the culture and exodus is actually that’s synchronicity the song synchronicity um there is a Bob Marley biopic coming out February 14th so during this month y’all and there’s actually another this episode comes out it might actually be the day that this episode comes out which is perfect that might be

Yes I think you I think you’re right I think you’re absolutely right it’s the day that this episode comes out it’s called one love and it is telling the story of his impact it’s going to be talking about his career and his activism in particular I know that this

Is going to be a lot about his activism so really really excited to see that and D is a huge Bob Marley fan huge Bob Marley fan Bob Marley we’ve talked a ton about him over the course of our friendship but I’m really excited for this to come out um trailer has also

Recently dropped of a biopic about Shirley Chisum which she has made history in our culture as being I think the first black woman to be elected to congress I think that’s what happened she was the first black woman to be elected to congress as a member of the House of

Representatives and I think she was also the first black woman to put in her bid for president she ran for president and she is being portrayed by the queen Miss Regina King yes I just love the trajectory her career is just love it I love seeing the things that she

Directs I love like just how I mean you want to talk about Ain Ain okay ating I’m just really excited to see back from when she was in there y’all ain’t got no OD that’s my favorite for me it’s the range it’s the range for me because if you if when you

Watch the trailer for this y’all will hear that she has nailed Shirley chism’s signature voice that voice is very distinct and she has nailed it now there’s something I want to add to for the culture that I forgot about and I recently saw another trailer and it’s

Coming out this month um for years years I mean so many I feel like a hundred feel like at least a hundred Charlie Brown has been in syndication yes Charlie Brown has been around for a long time and there is a new feature film in the Charlie Brown Universe coming out

Called I think it’s called Welcome Home what is the baby’s name I want to call him Franklin but that might not be his name is his name Franklin I don’t think his name it might not be Franklin I got to look it up y’all forgive me L lone

Black boy on Charlie Brown who was sitting on the end of the table in that little rickety lawn chair I would never get over that why y’all do him like that on Thanksgiving is it called welcome on Franklin what’s his name Frank I think

It was it is I think it was now that I’m thinking about it you know you know why I said cuz I was thinking like hey it’s Franklin yes the turtle the turtle that’s like is it Franklin oh my God nostalgic so his name is Franklin and they are

Bringing Franklin back because he was originally in the universe but they’re bringing him back for a featurelength film where they’re reintroducing him and he’s going to become a main stay again and I’m really excited because people are finally like there’s certain company that are finally catching on like uh

Just a quick conversation about inclusivity Sesame Street has been doing a great job the past decade on inclusivity they’ve talked about people people with homing insecurities and they’ve had characters like that they talked about um people living with HIV AIDS they’ve had characters like that they talked about um people who are

Neurodivergent they had characters like that and puppets that reflect the right neuros spiciness yes um so it’s really exciting that there are certain platforms that are taking notice to the fact that people want themselves to be seen their kids want to be seen in all walks of life whether it’s living

With a disability or living with brown skin you know like we all want to be seen and we all want to be included in the media that we you know that we consume so it’s really exciting that here we are Black History Month we’re about to have this great biopic I’m sure

About Bob Marley coming out but we’re also about to have the diversifying of of Lily white Charle Brown universe and it’s just it’s exciting it is let’s give a cheer for the Blackness of it all we love it so fam right you know 51 fam we just want to thank y’all

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