Lieutenant Nasty, Charlamagne’s Apology, and the Supreme Court Trump Decision | Higher Learning

Yo yo yo thought Warriors what is up our learning is on it is I van Le Jr and it’s me Rachel L Lis yeah you’ve been saying that you probably said it at about nine times since we I got here what does it mean guys you doing Too I I I look at your fingers I I reject you not sing to I rejected it just came out it just came out was the first weekend it it was out Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday guess what Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday I’ve been sick like I cannot shake whatever

This is you weren you weren’t too sick Friday night when you were that was Thursday Thursday I’m so glad I got my own I Ain wor about Josephine you you talking about how sick you are I am so glad you brought that up you talking about how sick you are what kicked you

When you were bouncing around bloody hopping here’s the thing okay van and I van and I went to what I was calling a block party on the rooftop it was very fun Isa Ray hray party I was so happy van came out because it’s hard to get

You to come out stuff like that they’re playing lot Texas Louisiana music so it was a lot of fun it felt like college but what I learned and realized what there was a they started playing um so this they’re playing the the the Before I Let Go the old school into the new

School beyon man what is what is going on you’re like a child you messed all over yourself is it water yeah because just wipe it on your shirt no this is actively black and I don’t want to ruin my activ it’s water it’s workout clothes you can just wipe you just we actively

Black I would wear this to the that’s actually really that’s actually a really nice sweatshirt I tell you guys right now um I’m be getting some if you’re not wearing actively black you’re playing yourself it is is it it like the paper towel or something there’s a Kleenex box

Right there you could have used but you don’t want to use Kleenex you won’t use paper top like a Kleenex is going to get all over you know what I mean anyway I’m sorry literally you could do this okay so shout out to Lany shout out to actively

Black literally the best athle stuff you can wear it’s the best it’s literally the best like if you’re not wearing it it’s because you have a problem with black because this is literally the best stuff you can wear it looks the best it feels the best it’s I’m not even joking

When I tell you there’s no brand out there no brand that makes better looking stuff that makes makes better feeling stuff I get nothing from them I get no money I don’t even get the drops anymore but I tell you what I do do is wear all of this stuff you get

Free stuff no I haven’t gotten in a while it’s tough that’s a nice sweater Laney’s going Laney’s going mainstream man Laney is uh uh he got the well he got the he had the big fashion show you know what I mean like actively black is the greatest brand it’s the best brand I

Would love to wear actively black you wouldn’t want love to wear but go ahead get back to you talking about okay okay so Beyonce they play Before I Let Go and everybody they break out quite naturally as black people do into an electric side yeah which I then said van come on

Everybody’s doing it and you didn’t do it and what I learned you don’t know how I wouldn’t say I don’t know how I learned you don’t know how to do the Electric Slide so I this what I would say and this goes way back this is a

Very funny thing I wouldn’t say I don’t know how I would say number one I don’t like it because uh there’s too much there’s too much thinking involved oh my gosh no it’s not it comes actually you don’t know how to do it I like I mean

First of all I this has nothing yeah there’s no problem this is well known amongst my friends that the electricite not thought Warriors like this is well known like we when we were on we were on all of us together Gino would point out the electric slot I’m not that type of

Dancer what kind of dancer are you I’m a dancer that just has to feel the dance the Josephine Johnny choer style all of these things like you know what I mean like like and when first of all when everybody’s dancing together my anxiety doesn’t let me do the Electric Slide

Well I don’t feel too much pressure so you’re not good online like so that’s why you didn’t join the Bunny Hop I don’t and the Bunny Hop to me is so [ __ ] intricate you and your whole girl to me the easier than the electric to me the Bunny Hop is so

Intricate all of these dances I’m telling you if I’m a good dancer I do not electric slot I do not Bunny Hop any dance that now we have player proof dances that we do I gotta see one oh we have player proof danc just show me one oh I’m not

Gonna show you I gotta need the rest of the crew why can’t you do it by yourself represent I’m not represent represent for the crew we we have dances that we do and I could do the dances of my service fraternity uh the service fraternity is

Dances oh yeah we had youu had Upson like y stroll yeah we had a couple of strolls how have we we’ve talked about Delta Sigma Theta we’ve talked about Mo moo we’ and the fact that you have are in a service fraternity that has a

Stroll and you don’t do it is it okay just tell me this because I know I’m not going to get you to you won’t do it yeah is it closer to what Q’s Alpha kappas or Sigma to so here’s the thing about euuu is it was started by a bunch of

Dancers these guys could really dance Germaine and the Magnificent Seven with the girls I forgot I forgot all the information the name of the guys that started it the first line I can’t remember what they’re called now first line yeah start in like 1990 and um I I

Found it me and Ryan founded the uiu chapter at Louisiana Tech we founded the chapter so what is and weend and we ended up becoming at one time what are your colors the biggest uh black red and white we ended up becoming the biggest black frat at Tech at one point

That’s amazing so explain to me what your stroll is close to oh y’all got y’all got a sign a sign yeah you saw you we not talk about why you throwing our [ __ ] up don’t throw our [ __ ] up you f you do you have a corresponding uh lady

Fraternity yep I mean sorority uhuh what is it Omega top pie qtpie it’s true Omega top pie QT pies I remember I remember hold on for a second I remember I was talking to this Q at Tech right I was talking to this c tech and he was like yeah bro I seen

Y’all got y’ little fraternity whatever I’m like come on man don’t don’t because my brother or whatever see and he was like and I see y’all got the girls now because we started Omega top pie there too some girls and they started some girls came up and they started it there

Too and he was like yeah they Cutie Pies that’s the problem I got with some of this other stuff he was like I was like what he was like what’s so cute about it I was like what he’s like ain’t none of this [ __ ] cute this is Black History we

Talking about all right we had a little like we had a little me and Ryan had a little diance with it and then the deeper we got into it the more serious we realized people took it and the stupid area became to us not not you

First of all I will say this service organization I love uiu and all of my brothers in euuu and all of that what I’m talking about is the deep deep culture I mean it ended up being some beef set Tech behind it ended up being

All of this to where you know we was going back and forth like [ __ ] had to go down it was like was all too much is all I’m saying it’s all too much I love all my sister’s in it my sister got my sister got my sister got me started

CutiePie she CutiePie and then a lot of Cutie Pies and youu people went on to become different Divine n fraternities so please again tell me what is your stroll closest to which frat so I can but what I’m saying is they were dancers they were dancers so they made up stuff that

Was like their own but like were they hopping where is it more of a like a smooth stroll hopping I would say it was probably more like a smooth stroke okay so C but it was the whole organization to me is honestly uh Sigma zet Cody oh okay the

Whole organization to me you made the face the whole organiz you did you did we know you know what we know how y’all feel about I dated a sigma yeah we know how y’all feel about him but you you made a face when really they’re probably

The most cohesive out of all of them between brothers and that’s actually very true yeah like they they you know it’s probably the the whole thing but you made the face um but yeah it was fun but like I remember I I it wasn’t the Bunny Hop we went to

Memphis and there was another one that came out and like we got up we were all in Memphis maybe it was the chaa slide I can’t remember which one it was these are so easy but I was I was there with Gino and I remember I said it right

There Gino remember I was like I’ll never participate again cuz you tried and fails it’s not that I tried and failed I don’t like it I get I I literally get nervous I get nervous in situations like that I feel like you got to dance and do the same thing everybody

Else is doing it like if you [ __ ] it up it’s a big deal when I’m feeling when I’m feeling the music I can do whatever I want I’m a solo Dancer by myself and even when we would have like the uiu stuff and everybody would get together

And do all the I don’t want to do it I like to get on my own but that’s true syvia saw that shout out to syia syia was like man I’mma tape this and put this out and I’m and I’m say I told her

I was like do it sh out to Sil Bell I told her do it do it tape it put it out because I’m ready to have a conversation about all of this necessity of electric sliding you don’t have to Electric Slide you don’t have to I think

What caught me is I know you’ve said multiple times how good of a dancer you are I’m a great dancer and I was shocked you couldn’t do it because is you keep saying I can’t do it you said you can’t do it what I’m saying is I don’t like to

Do it I mean could I do the dance yes the floor is yours boom boom I’m not about to do we little music can we get I’ll do it do the do the I want the original music though doing the electric slide but no it was fun but I I noticed

That you weren’t sick during that I was I I I was I had whiskey because I was trying to like fix it and then I was fine I rested Friday but then I went to a dinner Friday and that just I should have stayed home

So I was in the bed see so stop [ __ ] talking about all you out in these streets no I was in these streets but I was in the bed all day Saturday didn’t do a thing and then F uh Sunday I felt a little better so I started to be more

Productive I quite the productive day really really really good weekend so you have until next Thursday’s podcast to see Dune 2 and I’m gonna give you a dune 2 quiz no no no no you’re holding me accountable for the electure slide which I you have to do it I accept so if I

Okay all right that’s what we’ll do so the next time we’re in person I will have had to seen Dune 2 and you will have to do five questions on Dune I’m ask if she catches you practicing right I’m gonna do the Electric Slide I’m

Gonna do it I’m ask her telling you by the way if I if I had to do it by myself I’ll probably be fine but if I’m doing it it’s not enough space I’m I’m well this is where you’ll be doing it that day we’ll figure it out we’ll do it

Right here if I do it by myself it’ll be fine if you jump in and start doing it with me I’m gonna be like I’m gonna start I’m gonna start freaking out I’m going to start freaking out you know what I think gets you cuz there’s a

Basic way to do it and you know some people start like adding their own things especially on like G like Gino Gino is a is Gino is like such a Kappa to where I get that from him and so like everything has a shimmy in it yeah it’s so annoying like everything

Has I could see that from and so we’re doing it let your slide I’m like yo you [ __ ] me up bro you [ __ ] me up but Gino was Gino would be pointing out the way going all the things like trying to talk to girls and all of that stuff

Doing the Electric Slide he loves it he’s a he’s a big electric slider he nobody else was that Bigg of electric slider in our crew except for youo he loved it they to do it two three four times the club would be over that’s the

Only thing that I hate is it goes on too long yeah like at some point we got to stop yeah it’s it’s really kind of overrated in a way no it’s fun when it starts you you and your friend were the only what’s her name again Jade Jade you

And Jade Jade made a new friend that night was very impressive no don’t do Jay like that no she didn’t yes she did man Jay was made a friend with a one of the most prominent actors on insecure it’s very amazing you guys were doing the bunny hop by yourselves it’s just us

For attention uh no because the song was playing we loved it it reminds us of college and nobody else the party seemed to know it and the only other person was you and you wouldn’t join so I thought people would join in because it’s such an easy dance

No that [ __ ] is complicated to me let me tell you something seriously four moves all jokes aside we had a fun time we really did have a fun time it was good it was worth it see you got to come out more nah I could have slept I’ve been tired I’ve

Been so tired my voice is all scratchy I could have slept I’ve been so tired could have hung out with Boseman like you understand how great it is I mean you do like hanging out with Boseman yeah no I get Boseman woke up this morning bosan came over I was like hey

You want to go outside he’s like not quite yet Dad let’s just hang out for a second like he I literally had my phone up and I was playing the video and the video was loud and I swear to you Bosman went and put his paw on I believe it B

Are really smart like like put that down it’s our time um L next week uh La Al um so I wna I’m gonna talk about something that happened yesterday at another screening of Dune I went to I’ve seen Dune twice three times I’m going tell you about another screen

You guys I want you guys tell me the name of this segment is is Van Rong love this segment all right this the name of this segment is Van Rong let’s go okay so group of us went to go see Dune yesterday Auto set it up over at the

City walk okay so we’re there we’re excited to see Dune if you guys can’t go get to see a movie at the CityWalk and IM ask you should they have true IMAX there biggest [ __ ] screen I’ve ever seen all the way huge screen City Center City Walk oh Universal Universal City

Walk oh okay so the only bad thing about it is it’s Theme Park parking so you have to pay like it’s not that bad though you have to pay like $32 part what yeah but then you get the money back don’t they yeah they validate right they validate you get the money back

With Ste part Park so everybody’s there it’s excited gigantic Auditorium huge screen true true IMAX 70 millimeter Saw movie is fantastic so we’re talking a little bit um Nicole kimman comes on I always Gotta Give Nicole kimman her her props they’re ending that are they yeah they announced that oh looks like they

Just put out a new one but whatever so she’s she’s doing her thing and um the movie comes on the movie isn’t really on yet okay I’m not going to spoil anything about Doom but they say something and then it goes to the Warner Brothers

Thing let you know this a big one of Brothers movie whatever I mean we’re we’re still talking the movie’s not on yet we’re still going back and forth we’re very excited whatever whatever and behind us somebody goes sh stop talking now why do now I thought this

Was a joke so I turn around like ha and I look on his face and when I look back at Otto shout out to my friend Otto uh when I look back at Otto Otto’s like I’m like he’s he’s go to be playing and ‘s like he wasn’t that’s why I’m like okay

Cool and how old is this guy the guy that said this yeah here probably in his 20s early oh young okay okay I wasn’t expecting that was expecting older must hat so red huh red mustache hat no that wasn’t so it’s him and a couple of his

Friends and apparently this is a big copile movie theater because the only place you see the movie in in the pure IMAX one of the biggest screens I don’t know if it’s the only place was one of the biggest screens 70 mm all that stuff

So I’m like so now it’s getting funny to me because he’s actually mad right he only said it once he only said it once it’s funny to me but he said shh stop talking and then I uh I look at Otto and ‘s kind of Otto’s pissed I’m like yo you

Mad and he’s like yeah I was like oh we just say something after the movie and he’s like yeah we we we definitely are I’m like cool so I was really looking at all of this as a big joke until I turned over and looked back at the guy and he

Ice grilled me he was like and I was like oh I was like oh okay so then I went to some I went to a little Zone and so it’s about 10 or 15 minutes of me being really upset then the movie gets to you because it’s still at the beginning of

The movie okay then the movie gets to you and what starts to happen is because I’ve seen the movie a couple times you start to realize that you’re coming towards the end of the movie mm all right right the movie ends I’m not going to ruin it for you because you you’re

Going to watch it next I am going the Dune this is called let’s not even go for the electric side let’s go for the Bunny Hop because that’s the more complicated one this is going to be called the Dune Bunny Hop challenge okay next Thursday the Doom I’m up for it I’m

Gonna do it you GNA do the bunny hop I’m gonna do the bunny hop the the Bunny Hop is one I’ve never successfully completed okay but um I know I can do it the Dune Bunny Hop challenge next we okay so anyway so we get up we pass by and I

Looked at the dud they’re s they they’re still sitting down the guys behind us because they’re C they’re copile Bros they’re watching the credits so uh I look at them and I say uh yo my man want to say something to you real quick and a looks over ‘s

Like yo the movie wasn’t even on yet and because it wasn’t it really wasn’t the movie wasn’t even on yet and you shush me like a little [ __ ] kid and the guy goes yeah I appreciate you not talking for the rest of the movie and I’m like

Oh this [ __ ] playing and he’s he’s him and AO are going back and forth and I’m like but and then I reverted straight up I was like but you see how that could get you [ __ ] up and he was like oh come on man it’s

Not that serious I’m like no no no no no no no like just think about it though like what if I had decide to grab you by your head and drag you around this [ __ ] movie theater and so everybody else so people are starting to get uncomfortable one of his friends

Reaches out his hand to shake his hand I’m like yeah good we good I mean that’s not going to happen but like the movie wasn’t on he’s like come on you guys were talking into the movie I’m like we weren’t though we really weren’t I see

Movies all the time I don’t talk during the movie I’m like we weren’t talking I was like but that thing saying that and projecting like that when I’m sitting right in front of you I’m letting you know I’m stalling you out it’s mad people that would have turned around and

Been like yo what the [ __ ] is up like what you trying to do I’m like like I’m not one of those guys I’m just trying to next time you’re going to get the wrong person next time you’re going to get the wrong person and he’s like and he said

It again and he was like uh yeah man I really appre uh I really apologize I wasn’t trying to do that I’m like okay good y’all have a good Sunday and then he goes but I really do appreciate you guys not talking for the rest of the

Movie and then I lost it I was like don’t [ __ ] say that to me again and if you want to say that to me again I’m going to come around there I’m going to grab and we GNA see how dope your [ __ ] are cuz it’s six of y’all and it’s two of us

And I guarantee you thiso and and by this point I’m L I’m going off doing the same [ __ ] that I’ve always that I always did as a kid right the same bat rude [ __ ] and then a deep sense of embarrassment washes over me because what didn’t happen in my youth is that

Midway in doing this I snapped out of it and when I SN snapped out of it I started to look and people recognize you I don’t know if they recognize me or not but the faces of uncomfort fear what is he gonna do what the [ __ ] is going on around there like

This is a big thing so I’m looking around I’m I looked I kind of paused and I went you know what y’all have a good Sunday their faces are people watch their faces like his boy next to him was [ __ ] panicking like and and also these it

Started to kind of Dr kind of dawn on me that these were were kids these guys might have been 30 years old we’re talking probably between 27 and 32 so uh and I don’t know where they where they come from or whatever but I I actually

Felt bad like I felt cuz by this point I I I fully lost it like it’s like fully lost it I don’t know if he he was trying to play with me there’s almost no way he wasn’t trying to play with me or maybe he’s just so maybe he was just so

Blissfully socially inep that he wouldn’t understand that the way that that I took that as him saying but you shut up though which we really didn’t we were gonna start talk stop talking when the movie came on anyway like I I was taking that as a challenge there’s so

Much trauma here I was taking that as like as a challenge but I appreciate the fact that you did shut up I’m like nobody shut up because I’m like stop saying that you make the more you making me feel played the more my ego is telling me I don’t have to do anything

That you say to do and if I want to I can hurt you right yeah and and so this is trauma literally yeah a part of me is like you know what just step into the aisle and wait for to come out of the aisle and just see what’s up and now and

Then my brain goes right into it now my brain is thinking about how you get the drop okay grab them and throw them down the aisle real quick and then boom boom boom like how like my brain is like playing all the things like then this

Thing okay cool well this is what what is Otto gonna do man utto never been in this situation before and by the time but but by the when I’m walking out of the theater there is so much shame like I’m like [ __ ] how the [ __ ] at 43 am I still

Embarrassing myself like this like how does how is that flash out je3 yeah sorry oh please at least I didn’t do you like Kevin Hart did do that’s ex that’s exactly what you just did damn that’s exactly what you just did that’s exactly what you just did I in my mind I thought

You were estimating because you’re about to have a birthday and I’m like no way he’s about to turn 44 that birthday is 44 no no way he’s about to turn 44 that’s you look so young I am young sh okay to answer the question to answer the question is Van wrong you know

You’re wrong that’s why you had shame when you walked out and this is coming from a person who’s I am confrontational if I had been in that situation and somebody has shush me I would have turned around and been like the movie hasn’t even [ __ ] started yet shh now

You’re talking like I would have said something back in the moment that’s me right if it had kept going it would have been an issue yeah but if I had let a whole movie go by I would have probably been ma annoyed the first 30 minutes and

Then I would have just let it go but I wasn’t but see I was never mad I took it as like because everybody was actually a lot of people were talking the Nicole kimman thing always gets people going I wasn’t mad I wasn’t mad until I turned around and

And I I looked I saw his face and he was he had the ice Grill situation on yes and I’m like I I still would even your conversation your initial conversation even you saying but you see how you could take it I didn’t think that was bad you talked after the friend sticks

Out his hand trying to do an Olive Branch Y you know I know I know all that was fine you even saying like a I’m letting you know where I was coming from and kind of like you say that to somebody else it could be a real issue

So maybe this is a learning for you I get all of that the moment when he said but I appreciate you being quiet I think in his mind he thought that was something nice to say like but I really do appreciate like we’re having this

Back and forth in his mind I think he was like thanks for not doing this in the theater I really do appreciate being quiet I understand how you took it it’s all almost condescending like but like you shut the [ __ ] up but thanks I get it

Yeah I get it but I also understand could could understand it who knows how he met but I could understand how he was like but I really do appreciate hey but like thanks for being quiet and it should that it should have ended with y’all having that

Conversation right there but it went too far and you and you recognize it which is why you pulled yourself out of it and like cuz a was ready to go too that could have gone so much worse you don’t know who could have been there security police officer off duty car somebody

Some you know what I mean like even though there were less of you it’s still black and white and they could have panicked they could have people carry guns you just I just people carry guns do they not I’m not I mean I guess they

Do but I I you’re not gone I’m just saying so many things escalate so quickly and go wrong and are misinterpreted and I just as you kept telling the story and it kept getting bigger I thought this could this could be so wrong yeah for nothing all for ego

Yeah yeah yeah and for you know whatever you were wrong um let’s get a vote was I wrong Alia Alia was working Ashley uh no I hate when people shush me in movie theaters so I don’t think so there you go Ashley smash you would yeah

I guess you would have been Smashley I would have been Smashley immediately I bet you won’t shush me again I’m start shushing the hell out of you all right uh Supreme Court has ruled on the whole Donald Trump Insurrection mess let’s get into it all right there’s

Really no big deal of to day uh I guess this is something to talk about breaking news right breaking news smart Supreme Court on Monday handed a sweeping win to former president Donald Trump by ruling the states cannot kick him off of the ballot over his actions leading up to

The January 6 attack on the capital you guys know this uh in Colorado and I think a couple other states had yeah they’re waiting for this ruler right um had used the 14th Amendment of the Constitution uh to disqualify Trump from uh being on the ballot in those States now the way

The wars is in the 14th Amendment there’s a language that um prohibits insurrectionists from being eligible for offices like the president and the the way the Colorado courts uh interpreted this is that Trump is an insurrectionist because of his actions on January 6 and therefore uh he cannot be the president

He’s not eligible to be the president and there was some constit there was some Supreme Court of Colorado Supreme Court of Colorado uh there was some talk about this as a legal Theory prior to them doing it but then they did it which made it a reality to a lot of people

Case got all the way up to Supreme Court Supreme Court which has a heavy conservative majority as you guys know some of these people were directly appointed by Donald Trump has ruled that that doesn’t hold any legal water it says because the Constitution makes Congress rather than the states

Responsible for enforcing section three of all federal office holders excuse me because the Constitution makes Congress rather than States responsible for enforcing section three against all federal office holders and candidates we reverse is what the ruling says this is the day before the Colorado primary so

Donald Trump looks like he’s good to go in Colorado Rachel any surprises here for you uh I think it was surprising that unanimously they all decided that this was wrong right um I don’t know I didn’t necessarily expect that now granted that doesn’t mean all their opinions were at the same right because

The three liberal judges had a concurring opinion because they think that the the conservatives took it too far that this should have been a narrow ruling of Simply that states can do this if there’s an insurrectionist on a state level then they can bar them from being

On the ballot but they can’t do it on a federal level because it’s the Constitution but the um conservative judges went as far as to say like Congress can make the decisions and they set the standards and like they they went a little bit further with it kind

Of like what they did with row which is an issue I think that the Liberals made also in their concurring opinion you can make a decision on this case and not go as far as you did like with rad completely overturning it you could just

Make it uh specific to what the the case is asking for um so unanimously surprised me the other thing that surprised me is that I think people were wondering would this case that now is dealing with the Insurrection by the Supreme Court would they address the Insurrection because on a state level it

Was the it them deeming him an insurrectionist and that is why they said he can’t be on the ballot that happened um all the way up to the state supreme court other states that were doing it as well had the same Theory they were wondering will Congress

Say not Congress sorry will the Supreme Court say say Trump’s an insurrectionist or not I think some people were waiting to see if that would be addressed and they didn’t say anything and some some people are saying well the fact that they didn’t address it is because they

Know they believe that he is and then other people are saying they they didn’t address it because they’re scared to because you know they don’t want to have to vot or they rule or in their opinion in their ruling they’re saying that it doesn’t really matter whether he is or

Whether he isn’t that they’re essentially saying that they are right so whether or not it doesn’t matter whether he is or he isn’t that it wasn’t it’s a state it’s not a state issue it’s not a state issue it’s not a state issue but because the facts are dealing with

January 6 they thought they might actually address it and they didn’t they skirted over the whole thing and just dealt with it of this is how this is how we’re reading that Amendment this is the interpretation it’s never been used since the 19th century and so and then

The argument of course for the people who brought it on behalf of Colorado were like because we haven’t had a president do this before there hasn’t been a need to use this since then but they ruled the way that they did and some people are like okay well the state

Is allowed to keep presidents off ballots if like their paperwork is wrong so what’s the difference of keeping them off the ballot when we’re deeming them as an insurrectionist kind of thought that was an interesting argument too uh it also calls into question some it’s interesting when you think

About the Supreme Court so you used to look at the Supreme Court as an entity um that tried its best this is years and years and years ago my opinions on the court very well known they tried its best to look at issues uh with the Integrity of the American system at the

Forefront at least if you’re talking about the war in court question like that uh the unanimity of the Court here is in a way encouraging but also in a way frightening right because the unanimity of the Court here says that uh even your liberal judges looked at this and they

Said this is a precedent we don’t want to sit it’s bad and we’re interpreting this in a way that is not necessarily about politics but about uh how we view the law and how we view the constitutionality of the assertion right which is what you want from the court

Yes what you want from the court is for them to look at things through the lens of the Constitution and through the lens of American Freedom um and you would hope that there would be some unanimous decisions on the court because you would hope that there would

Be some issues that they could get to that were unanimous um at the same time A lot of people are going to be uh afraid that there’s been some intellectual capture or some sort of cucking of the three liberal Minds on the court because people want so badly for there to be

Factionism in terms of Li liberal and conservative thought at all times so you guys should have you know there should be something inside of you that uh butus is up against the three let’s face it the six let’s face it presumably prot Trump right not conservative laning right but Pro Trump

Judges that Supreme Court has you know very particularly the uh the three that he he produ he he um he appointed so anyway I’m saying is there are people that are gonna say oh my God the three liberal Justice juses didn’t fight against the tide that is building in a lot of these

Different organizations that trumpism is taking over but then there’ll be other people that’ll say hey the fact that they all looked at this and said you know what this is not quite the way that this should be interpreted or the way that this should go uh just means that

They can agree on something well I guess I don’t even see it I that’s true but it it’s always seems to be at least where we stand now the last few years the Liberals that have to do that for things to be unanimous the other side doesn’t

Seem to at all so like it’s not really encouraging to me that unanimously they voted because it that’s the way it always is the Liberals have to come over to the other side they to meet if this had been you think that these conservatives would have decided the same way there’ve been

Probably not there have been some decisions that we’ve talked about that have gone differently than what we thought they were yes some of the voting some of the like with Alabama and their their redistricting redistricting can’t talk districting yes there was another state same issue they seem to have said

We’re not you know like they people looked at that as throwing throwing the people a bone because they knew that the Dos decision was going to be so destructive I mean really a lot of people looked at it that way a lot of people looked at it

As the court trying to say like like the court trying to say face because they knew that they were about to destroy you know what how we’ll know that if they’re like okay well not this year next year yeah because there is another case that’s coming up there’s a case in um

Arkansas I think right now that’s either Arkansas Oklahoma I can’t remember that is dealing with voting right issues is going to challenge the ACT again so if they were just throwing a bone because they’re eventually going to do it will’ll know um the central question which you raised still hasn’t been answered and

I’m interested in getting more insight into it which is by the text and the intent of the 14th Amendment um what’s in there about this is Donald Trump qualified uh not qualified is Donald Trump eligible to to to to run for president um and that question is about

Getting to the bottom of whether or not Donald Trump’s actions on January 6 and around January 6 before January 6 because a lot of people talk about January 6 as if it is the uh only time the only time that Donald Trump tried an Insurrection and what I would say is

That an Insurrection is comes in many forms and facets and it normally even a coup right even a coup always employs some intellectual sabotage you think about the coup as uh [ __ ] 150 tanks in front of the capital and some countes somewhere where they speak some different language goes

In and they kill everybody that’s that’s that’s the Final Act of the coup but prior to that there has to be some type of philosophical and intellectual capture that goes on to make those to to rev those guys up right so you have there has to be propaganda and there has

To be uh vote rigging and there has to be power grabs and all these different places people have to be inserted friendly people have to be inserted into these places there’s always some corruption that leads to the final violent Act of the coup which is the act

That snatches power and I look at January 6 is really the same thing right January 6 have been intellectually cified by months and months of planning it into Americans Minds that something that happened something happened that didn’t happen so that to me was as much

Of a coup as them running into the state house all the stuff in Georgia and the fake electors and all of these plots and I guess that’s what was was was litigated down there in Colorado and I would wonder what the Supreme Court or anyone who thinks that Donald Trump

Didn’t engage in an Insurrection and it wasn’t party to an Insurrection I would wonder what they thought about him uh trying to invalidate or the election and user power from a duly and fairly elected president and how that doesn’t meet the standard of of an Insurrection

I think it it’s very good point I just don’t think we’ll see Congress and and it’ll be curious with the the immunity case as well I want to see if they’re going to finally address whether or not he they deem him as that whether it’s because of January 6 or any of his

Actions before or after I don’t I just don’t think they ever will um I was sent the video by somebody this lieutenant governor Lieutenant Lieutenant how you say how you sayen L like floor Gump Lou not Lou we had a guy at Tech I don’t know if I

Ever talked to you about him before he was called the nasty Lieutenant did we ever talk about him we did not we never talked about the nasty nasty L dog how many names does he have so it was this guy that played on the football

Team and um he had been in the Army but then he left the Army to play on the football team so he’s a little bit older he was a white guy country ass white guy only dated black women only dated black women and he dated as many

Black women as he could and he would call them chocolate babies I’m so Disturbed he was like he was like to their faces yeah he would be like he T to girls and he’d be like you know I like them chocolate babies and he like and he was getting so

Many black ladies we called him the nasty Lieutenant the nasty nasty LG but it was Lieutenant didn’t bother you that he called black women chocolate babies look it you thought it was funny I couldn’t be bothered by it because they weren’t bothered they like you would go into you

Because you know I just I look back at college and I think about the disgustingness of dorm life the we I lived in KS at Tech which was a private dorm okay so was nicer you would think but um I didn’t live in the dorms

When I got to S but when I was at Tech I lived in the private dorms right and there was one guy that called himself the Phantom [ __ ] and what he would do is just throw [ __ ] all over everything like you get on the elevator no and all

Of the buttons will be covered oh my God one time God do you know who it was no we never found out who it was there was this guy Leon and me R were getting on the elevator and Leon Leon was getting off the elevator and Leon was like hey don’t

Get on the elevator I me R the elevator was been stuck on the elevator somebody put [ __ ] all over the what are y’all out here doing in Louisiana this dude would print out uh different he would print out flyers and he would be like six weeks off but then

The Phantom [ __ ] R return that’s disgusting what kind of I don’t know what you had to get out of there that is that’s the most n nastiest thing I’ve ever had but so I just remember the idea of a communal shower of all you lived when we

I didn’t do a communal shine I said it was Private we had we had bathrooms in our rooms okay so we had we had a private D you had a private room but there still were like I think two or three bathrooms per floor with all of

These shower stalls right and all of these shower stalls and we all had our girls in there and stuff like that so everybody y’all did yeah we had girls in there that would the girl would come over sometimes my girl at the time would come over and stay three four five six

Seven days in the showers yeah they would go use the shower they would go they would go another man would be there would got to care there would be we would I would you stand outside of the shower you wait for your girl to shower oh I’m thinking like a big open shower

With like three heads no no no no there were individual showers I never had to do this that’s no we W all in there showering like prison or like after the [ __ ] Super Bowl or something but like you were all in there showering and stuff and you would go in there and you

Would see the nasty L dog and he would have like there would be a pair of white feet and then he would pair he would say a pair of chocolate feet he’s like you know when I’m in there you see a pair of white feet and a pair of chocolate feet

And there’ll always be different black ladies and there was sometimes it will be ladies that you will look at them and you will be like godamn not you too a victim of the nasty nasty Lulu that’s what we would say not you a victim of a

Nast I wonder where he’s at right now that nasty lieutenant if anybody knows him what’s his full name I can’t remember I can’t remember I’ll have to call Ryan I don’t remember the hold on let me see Ryan never answers the phone when I called him but because he know

He’s on to you now let me let me see then we can get back to it because this guy’s the lieutenant governor but let me let me call Ryan real quick real quick you’re on the podcast okay do you remember the name of the nasty nasty Lou doog the nasty

Lieutenant oh I do not tell them who the nasty Lieutenant was [Laughter] so so the Nancy Lieutenant was this crazy white dude that we went to college with and he believed in hitting every girl he messed with raw raw but I thought they were they only black they were black yeah

Yeah and said he trust his PS he that was it that’s another reason why well we called him the nasty Lulu cuz he was like he don’t use condoms he was like I trust my pics he was the nasty nasty Ludo then I’ve heard enough the nasty

I’mma hit you back bro the nasty liutenant that’s how he got the name cuz he was hitting everybody wrong I heard damn see Ryan remember he was like so disgusting he was in my room and we was playing was playing 2K and he was like

Uh 2K on the Dreamcast we was playing 2K and he was I was like yo you’re not using you don’t use condoms bro cuz it was a bow of condoms that I would have but like everybody takes some condoms and he was like I don’t need them and he

Was like what he’s like I trust my pics and we just I’m like bro seriously you should you should use some condom nasty nasty L do anyway this guy is the lieutenant governor of uh so slow news it’s a slow news day so this guy uh the governor of North Carolina he’s been

Serving since 2021 somebody sent me this video I can’t remember who but shout out to you maybe I should shout you out hold on let me go Kyle farer kyle. Farner on um I didn’t respond to you but I took the video uh so look he’s a member of the Republican

Party he’s the first African-American to hold the office of lieutenant governor he has been like to Dr Martin Luther King Jr but Donald Trump Donald Trump said this is Martin Luther King Jr on steroids Trump said at the pre super Tuesday rally in North Carolina I told

To Mark he said I think you’re better than Martin Luther King I think you are Martin Luther King Jr times to this Governor lieutenant governor had something to say about the idea of reparations ashon could you run this for us please there are some people that were talking about reparations in this

Country they wanted reparations and I remember I made this particular liberal so angry at me because I told them right to their face nobody owes you anything for slavery if you want to tell the truth about it it is you who owes it’s you who owes why do you owe because

Somebody in those fields took stripes for you somebody after those fields were ended and slavery was ended somebody had to walk through Jim Crow for you somebody fought Wars and died for you somebody lived less than because they didn’t have what you have and they did

It for you there are people in their graves right now and they are there because they were willing to stand up and fight for you those folks on the Edmund Pettis Bridge carrying American flags take that calling Kaepernick living in a society that he could scarcely acknowledge something that he

Has never known living with a bigotry that none of us can imagine carried American flags on that bridge and when they were hit upside the head with night sticks and shot with water hoses and knocked to the ground they got up and picked those flags up and kept marching

And they did it for you nobody owes you anything if anybody owes it’s you because you’ve been the benefactor of Freedom you are the one that owes and what do you owe you owe it to them to get up off your tail and get to school and when you get to school you

Order them to get up off your tail at school and get to work and get some learning in your head and once you get that schooling in your head and get out of that school you owe it to them to get to work and then when you get to work

And you get married you owe it to them to take care of your children so I do find that fascinating oh speech everything that he said even uh Trump’s comments no okay that is if I could give people one clip that demonstrates the trick bag of respectability politics I think that’s the purest

Example ever okay what are your thoughts on it no you keep going I think that’s one of the best examples ever because what you do is you start off with a premise and then you connect it to something that’s obviously true it’s obviously true that black people owe our

Ancestors we’ve talked about this before we owe our ancestors for every revolutionary Act of Freedom um that they committ right we our ancestors not just for standing on the edman Pettis Bridge we owe them for getting married we owe our ancestors not just for rebuilding communities after they were destroyed by white

Terrorism we owe them for establishing loving Community bonds before that we are our ancestors for for dancing for partying for eating for loving for existing we owe them for everything we owe them for doing all of that in spite of some of the worst circumstances in human history some of the worst

Oppression in human history some of the worst violence and degradation in human history everything that they did was revolutionary so you hear about different people who are revolutionary and everything you know they got up and they killed a bunch of people and they got people together when

You’re uh dignity is taken from you and your integrity is taken from you loving is revolutionary singing is re Revolution creating is revolutionary all of that stuff is Right Defiance of your condition is all of that so we all ancestors so much we can’t even begin to

Talk right about how much we owe them we then owe intentionally the uh participants in the Civil Rights Movement we owe it to them to live full participatory lives in American society because that’s what they were fighting for right they were fighting right they were fighting for

Our agency for our power we owe them we definitely owe them we’re talking about two different sets of O here and he put them all together he said you don’t ow anything for repar you don’t you don’t you’re not ow anything for slavery right I want to educate people on reparations

Reparations is not just reparations for slavery reparations is not an emotional exercise TI I want everybody to know this like nobody’s saying that you’re old reparations because you’re sad or you’re mad about oppression right reparations and the fight for reparations is an intellectual e exercise and it asks what would it take for

African-Americans to be full participants in the American economy what would that take as a block as a group group African descendants of slavery here okay it’s going to trigger a lot of people but that’s who we’re talking about okay what would it take for them to be full

Participants in the American economy and what that would take is very simple an accounting of what was denied to black people by both codified institutionalized and systemic racism and oppression the number that Sandy Dar comes up with uh in the book from here to equality is $4 trillion $4 trillion of wealth

Intentionally removed from the black community intentionally taken from us not just from slavery but from the money made off of slavery that we did not get to participate in then from uh land eration due to contract buying schemes trickery all of that type of stuff then Jim Crow and once again the

Cified cified dep powerment of Black Liberation then white terrorism hey go do everything that this guy just said everything that the the great lieutenant governor said he says you owe it to people to do that I got news for the lieutenant governor and anybody else that sticks their nose in

The book we did that we went and we learned we established schools for ourselves we established homes communities hospitals Banks churches for ourselves whole communities for ourselves and every time we did that the country that has an almost romantic obsession with our oppression said n we would rather anybody else have it

Than you [ __ ] have it because that threatens the way things are supposed to go in America and they acted they did they acted they acted with urban renewal to destroy communities right they acted with terrorism they acted with laws they acted with red lining they acted they

Acted they actually acted to defraud us of our experience as Americans an experience that we’ve been trying to earn ever since we got here so to say hey you owe your ancestors but the country doesn’t owe anything that’s something that those ancestors didn’t even believe because what they were fighting

For was what they were owed yeah and if you think that we’ve gotten there because of their contributions I’m sorry you’re wrong if you look at black wealth if you look at black uh life expectancy if you look at um schools if you look at

Health care if if you look at uh the the the prison system the disparities exist all over the place because really a lot of these questions come back down to cultural and economic circumstances so as this guy talking and he’s trying to make white people feel good about themselves by

Saying that we owe it to ourselves to be better right two things he does number one we’ve always been better we’ve always been better we’ve always been good we’ve always been better we’ve always been good we’ve always been better the the Trope of the lazy black that is sitting around waiting for

The white man to save him is a lie and if you don’t believe that’s a lie never listen to another [ __ ] word that I say turn this podcast off and go somewhere with the rest of your people who have no concept of American history and live in that Silo forever that’s

Just not true all right but the reinforcement of that idea and that Trope is necessary to make people believe that black people aren’t living up to the standard of their ancestors we’re not we’re not only living up to their standard we’re living past their wildest dreams and we owe it to them to

Make the wildest of their Wildest Dreams which is that one day we would have power and agency in this country to make it make true this guy right here this is a master class in trick bagging a master class of boot licking a master class of please

Sir may I have some more and there’s no way to get around it you guys every single point that is made is refutable by the most surface level surface level interrogation like I’m the dumbest of any person that I’ve ever bought on to this panil smarter than me everybody

That we bring on this podcast is smarter than me you’re smarter no I’m not and but but what I’m saying right now is if you are at all interested in the condition of black Americans there is no way no way to Come Away with any other conclusion other than we’ve been

Defrauded of major major major amounts of American Capital so well said and I’m not going to add much to it because you’re so right the only thing I will say is the other obvious thing to me which is such an issue with this this comparison that he’s trying to make of

You need to work hard because you need to honor your ancestors because they worked hard and they through harder times they were slaves they were enslaved right they weren’t working and like he acts as if they worked hard you need to be doing what they’re do they

Had no choice they were enslaved it was do this or be killed do this or we’ll we’ll burn you this will hang you this will chop off a lamb like they had no choice but to be in that situation Jim croww they he acts too as if well they

Had to fight through Jim croww they W they were doing what they had to do but they were also fighting against it it’s just the fallacy to me of the comparison of they had it harder than you you need to honor them by working hard and not taking into consideration what you’re

Saying we’re talking about Jim Crow we’re talking about slavery how are you not recognizing that these were problems and these were specifically things systems designed to be against black people I don’t understand how you can say that and then this and not recognize the two to me that’s something also that

Should be pointed out age agree with everything I agree and we and what you’re what you’re also talking about is the almost understandable Legacy of those things I mean the the predictable Legacy of all of that the predict the predictable Legacy of all of that stuff and other stuff as

Well stuff that is that that affects black poor blacks and poor whites alike like in a lot of these places that people are talking about that had these great racial uprisings these uprisings that you’re talking about in places like watts and places like uh um you know all over New

Jersey and places like Detroit these things began to happen with more frequency after the economic basis of those places were eroded so there was job loss there and when there was job loss there it was more difficult to ignore the cultural and systemic racism that was going on it’s kind of easier to

Ignore that stuff when everybody’s working but when those jobs left the white people that had money the white people that had access they suburbanized and when they went out to the suburbs all of the issues that were plaguing these societies were left to be dealt with by black people this country

Doesn’t care about right and what I would ask this gentleman or any person who believes this is black people have shown that they’ve cared about America specifically we’ve shown that we specifically want to be black and want to be americ we want to be American we don’t want to be we want

To be American and everything that comes with that question when has America ever showed that it wanted us and I’m just asking and when I when I say that I don’t even mean because you can show you you know what you can show that you want somebody in your house by

Just not asking them to leave if you just leave them alone that’s enough for them to be like oh okay like if you go in the gym I used to go in the gym sneak in the gym LSU gym shoot around and nobody would say for me

To leave so I would stay there and shoot but if you come into some place and you’re there and somebody says none for you did you know they don’t want you there I don’t think it’s that America doesn’t want us I think America wants us

To be a c they want us but they want us to be a certain way then that’s not warning us and that no they want us to use us it’s my point I get what you’re saying but I’m saying I I would go as far as saying I totally

Understand you you’re right I’m just saying they do want us here but they want to use us and treat us less than they are they don’t want us on their level they don’t want us to be equal and and and for people cuz I got a lot of

People on real quick I’ll say something I think America wants [ __ ] that’s what I’m saying but they don’t want black people this is what I’m saying and and and and I got a lot of people on my page right now because the K is Owen thing and they’re talking about you know

Their M I said she was antiblack and they’re talking about you know who you got on your page huh who you got on your page it’s I mean it’s it’s got it didn’t start off that way but now it’s it’s getting bigger and of course it’s like

Bringing in other people and a lot of people are talking about this victimhood mentality oh no cace is not that she’s anti- black she she just doesn’t want to be want you to be a victim which is what I think the lieutenant is trying to show

Here in his speech we don’t need to be victims anymore and I get so frustrated with a speech like this or the people in the comments or people big uping Candace you it doesn’t take much to see that our power as black people what what power we do have is constantly being challenged

And constantly be trying to be stripped away from us I just talked about that case it’s probably going to go up to the Supreme Court the Supreme Court found that Alabama Georgia and Louisiana all had these either State Legislative Maps or Congressional maps that literally were designed to not represent the black

Popul ation in order to give more white people a vote and power and take away from black people this is happening in present day so when you talk about us being of we making this up in our mind or slavery was such a long time ago or

Even this man says in his speech I I wasn’t a slave you know my parents weren’t a slave he said something like that at one point all of this is trickling down to where in 2024 we’re still fighting for our power just for right to votes a the Voting Rights Act

Established in 196 E5 already has taken away rights from TW and we’re going I guess we’re going to get into this I’m not sure if we’re going to cover this topic but in 2013 when Shelby R it back yeah rolled it back you can already see that the Gap

That has happened between voting between blacks and whites in the last 12 years if not more so this sorry I’m going on a rant it’s probably we’re not even probably where we were before but I just get sick of the Vic that we’re we’re not saying we’re victims we’re still

Fighting for equality equal footing so we can have the same power that you do in this country see the the term victim is interested in itself right so what if I was to tell somebody that the entire border crisis right is a weaponization of uh a victim mentality which is that

Your your country is that you are the victim of a horde of people that are trying to usurp your country from you both culturally and economically unfairly that the way to make people vote on the border border crisis is to make them believe that there are they they are the active

Victims of a group of people that want access to America unfairly and unjustly that that’s happening to them right that every time they use victims to demonstrate how dire the situation is right right right if an undocumented person commits a crime if undocumented people have to be

Someplace and if they get put up in a hotel if what like whatever happens whatever happens this is money that could have been yours this is stuff that could have been yours this is resources that could have been yours it’s a deeper much more layered conversation to have

About um how people feel about that and I get that but what I’m saying is the only time the victim word is used is when black people are trying to access their power their rights and talking about what they are ow not because they’re black but because they’re American citizens American

Citizens have certain rights codified for them and our rights and our participation in this country it’s a special circumstance but it’s a special circumstance only because it’s been especially and especially beat up and [ __ ] up so what we’re saying is hey I know it’s inconvenient for you

Guys but this is what was taken by the way don’t take my word for for it I’m begging you guys read scholarship on it there are people who are much smarter than me that have looked into this now if you’re going to tell me right now that reparations are never going to

Happen then whatever but if you’re going to tell me that they’re not old or that it’s a stupid idea then I’m going to ask you who you’re trying to pleas if you’re going to tell me right now that it’s a dumb idea that it doesn’t make any sense then I’m gonna ask you

Well who’s your master and that’s I mean look the guy’s entitled to his opinion but at the same time to connect what we owe our ancestors with what America owes us is a clear TB trick it back I will just say too about the victimhood that’s an interesting thing that you said because

They do consider themselves victims when it comes to Dei when it comes to affirmative action they the biggest victims all we like all we hear all we hear is who didn’t get to go to school who didn’t get a job because some lazy black got their job all that’s all we

Hear but then as soon as we say hey we like to not be killed by the police victim hey we like to eat decent food victim hey you know what they’re not letting us buy houses all [ __ ] you know what take two Twigs go build the house [ __ ] that’s what we did

Victim but they complaining about everything like literally a trans person can use the bathroom and they go oh my God they’re taking over what is left for us people us normal Christian Watts but you can’t ask for victim victim get the [ __ ] off my dick man [ __ ]

Y’all Let’s do an AP ra all right this gonna be good one um go ahead okay so reysa we didn’t talk about on this podcast and I don’t really know exactly what rysa Tisa did because I didn’t watch she just told her story she told her story yes she told her story and

About she by her husband she was wronged by her husband and like aund mil people have watched it she’s doing the rounds she’s doing her thing re Tamron Hall good morning sat down with Robin Roberts sat down with Robin Roberts Rea go ahead RSA so last week uh I guess it was last

Week or recently over on the old Breakfast Club they talked about Rea tisa’s entire s right and Charlamagne the God had this to say yes I’m GNA be honest with you man I hear a lot of big back Behavior does she have a big back she do she do give Shayla that was

Driving up the mountain okay okay she she was beautiful though yeah no no no no no no no you talked about the big back not the face she’s cool what thing with big back no I’m just saying cuz in a situation like this some of you big

Backs y’all got to stop being so thirsty for a man there’s a man out there for you okay this woman believed all of this because she wanted to believe all of this big back belief isn’t like everybody else’s belief okay she said it herself he said everything I wanted to

Hear she wanted to believe whatever was coming out of his mouth because she wanted a man so bad and then I seen him and he actually looked like her but okay so were mad about that um she was mad she addressed it specifically on Tamron Hall people were very

Upset Candice a friend of mine Candace bimbo she was upset she was like talked about uh she very frankly called charlam man out she said that Charlamagne is an advocate for mental health and you can’t be both an advocate for mental health come on and somebody who is on the radio talking

Abouts f people shamp people you can’t do that by the way I don’t think that’s untrue I think that’s probably something that has a lot of weight to it you like I’ll be honest with you one of I’ve my body image and who I am I’m a very

Confident guy my body image and it’s a part of me and it it [ __ ] sucks it it it it’s a thing people don’t people uh make so they say so many different things about the way you actually look but I guarantee somebody something and everybody’s gone through this to degree

I’m about about to get on the whole so box but like if if you’re looking in the mirror and you can’t see how if you if I used to take showers with the lights off you know I’m just being for real at my biggest I used to I used to take

Showers with the lights off I used to cut the light off off when I would when I would when I would take the shower so I would so I wouldn’t have to catch a glimpse of myself make it because it would ruin my thing so does this bother

You um he shouldn’t have said it ca like what he should but not only should he shouldn’t have said it let me let me be be honest with you it was [ __ ] up thing to say and it it was it was it was a [ __ ] up it was so what I’m thinking

He hadn’t even seen her at this point according to him that’s [ __ ] so just wait wait a second I’m not look I’m not even gonna get into the whole thing get it what you’re saying all right so um and I’ve talked to charlam I knew that this apology was

Coming uh but it wasn’t an apology so it’s it’s a zero just in case you guys know wait we have to give them the apology first Rachel we have to give them the apology first okay all right so Rea Tia after this she then went on tamrind Hall and on Tamarind Hall she

Mentioned the fact that um Charlamagne called her a big back and she didn’t call him by name by the way she didn’t call him by name but everybody knew she was talking about um so I think today on The Breakfast Club Charlamagne issued this apology Ashley play the apology

Tell y’all all the time the easiest way to keep your own peace is to not disturb the Peace of others uh I Disturbed that woman’s peace and that wasn’t my intention so I apologize if my words made her feel that way but I do have two

Things to say number one I never said she don’t deserve love because of her side right I didn’t even know she was big just told the story and I said it sounds like big back behavior and then I started talking about big back belief now if y’all want to have a conversation

About reinforcing negative stereotypes of big backs I understand I’m open to it but acting like uh I was having a conversation about Rec’s looks and size that’s not accurate I was speaking in general terms about big back behavior and big back belief and I actually said nobody has to be that desperate because

There is a man out there for you and I do have one final point just one we all have social media no we all have social media absolutely and we all use it for different reasons and Rees is getting a lot of props for being so vulnerable salute to herur but I

Personally feel like we have to stop bringing this stuff to social media if you don’t people to have an opinion about it absolutely cuz some of this stuff should just be reserved for our therapist if we can’t handle people having an opinion about whatever we are venting about keep it off social media

That’s my personal a good point when you put it out there in in the world the world’s going to come back many different ways absolutely she said that she was uh um already inse secure about her weight so then that why would you come to such

A big big big platform thinking that you know you’re going to be off limits from comment like cuz it’s people who was actually going in absolutely on her absolutely you you didn’t call her a big back no I was just speaking towards Big back behavior and big back belief based

Off the story you told and that’s why even when you referenc Sheila you referenc Sheila from Why Did I Get Married fantastic movie because even that movie reinforced same stereotype absolutely yes and but and we also seen where Shayla ate small she un her back she un her back definitely did and and

Then he that that man came around you know what I’m saying wanted her and then the skinny girl he was she was spinning up the money and all that so it just all of that to say like you said just get therapy for it especially especially if

It is an inse insecurity of yours I don’t I just don’t think those are things that should be on social media cuz everybody’s not going to agree with you there’s going to be people that have things to say so I just feel like some of this stuff should be reserved for our

Therapist if we can’t handle people having an opinion about whatever we are venting about cuz you’re not always going to hear what you want to hear yeah and then to say especially the more famous personality it should Hurt You When anybody say I get it but I respect

I understand that though and once again if I Disturbed her peace I apologize for disturbing her peace but that was not my intention well that’s very big of you to apologize and I love you for that bro I love you too so first of all what’s the

Apology rate zero so zero he started off because here’s the thing he said I don’t like when people say just say you’re sorry if you mean it and you’re sorry he said he Disturbed her peace and he goes and I’m sorry if she took it that way that wasn’t my intention my question

Immediately is so what was your intention I would have loved to have known this is where I need his co-host to not co-sign and be a sounding board or choir behind him actually say what was your intention cuz that’s what I want to know cuz it seems like you were

Trying to be funny at the expense of bigger people that’s what it feels like big back Behavior sounds like big back kept saying it over and over again he he said it it feels like he said it for Laughs I don’t know his intention because nobody asked and it feels like

He was trying to make a joke you know on the backs of bigger people that that’s I don’t like that then he goes on to when he says but but and basically says without saying if you’re gonna be sensitive then don’t get on social media because when you put yourself out there

And Jess goes on to elaborate even more when you put yourself out there then people have the right to scrutinize you but does that make your behavior okay that’s the problem you’re right we’re public figures you say an opinion people have the right to disagree to

Agree to come at you we see it all the time you see The Good the Bad and the Ugly but that doesn’t excuse or make your behavior okay just because it’s out there for everybody to critique you’re wrong you made an ex you made a You fash

Shamed her your co-host fash shamed her and then you try to excuse it and make it her fault because she just wanted to get on and tell her story for her reason to be vulnerable maybe other women were going through this it was she has the

Right to do that that doesn’t and you have the right to criticize but you also then need to understand that it can be deemed as wrong which it is so the butt is why I’m giving it a zero zero all right so this is what I’ll say number

One it would be call it would be hyp it would be hypocritical of me to uh get on here and act like I’m the best apologizer in the world you guys have heard some of my apologies I’m a work in progress in terms of apologies I will say this and here’s the

Reality if we’re working towards the healing and betterment of people then and that’s and that’s really true that’s a full-time job that’s you don’t take plays off uh if that’s what it’s really about that’s a full-time job nobody’s perfect everybody makes mistakes um I know for sure that it was

Something that was bothering him you know what I mean because I don’t think it it uh I don’t think it I don’t think it was I don’t think he thought it was gonna be this big of a deal honestly I think just [ __ ] around and the jokes

Went too far or he didn’t really really think about it but I’ll say this I’ll say that like the intentionality the intentionality of this entire thing can’t be on the back end it has to be on the person with the biggest microphone the intentionality has to be to not do

Harm yeah people are going to be harmed people being harmed is no excuse any of itself for harmed see what I’m saying like people are going to be harmed that you can make that about anything people are going to be harmed and people are going to sometimes expose themselves to harm right but

That’s no excuse for harm exactly and so and so what I would say to that is yeah man if you if if you want to put your kids on uh if you want to put a family vacation with your kids on your Instagram does that give people the

Right to call your kids ugly well according to their logic it does I would say no you know what I’m saying like I I I would say no so I think that and look it’s difficult sometimes once again I’m being honest it’s difficult sometimes even for me you guys have heard my

Apologies let’s keep it all real y’all know what’s up for me to come on here and just be like I’m sorry I made somebody feel bad I didn’t want to make them feel bad but then there’s another part of it that’s tough too the other part of it that’s tough is

To say I will be better at this the next time because that means that you’re not going to hold yourself to a standard yeah and it’s and look I wouldn’t be me if I didn’t say that particular person has come Leaps and Bounds like Charlamagne has come

Leaps and bounds in terms of therapy in terms of working and doing all of that stuff sorry guys I you guys not GNA want to hear it gu’s my [ __ ] friend it’s not that we just don’t need to hear it right now yeah but we know he’s your

Friend no but I would expect you to do the same thing if somebody was talking about me and I would do the same right and I would do the same thing if somebody was talking about you but can I just say this but oh go ahead all I’m saying is the work that

You’ve already done it doesn’t stop you got to keep pushing forward to do more work everybody I owe that to myself he owes that to himself and to our audiences and I think everybody does as well this response made it worse I’m sorry it really it really did and I also

Just find the timing to be so interesting because Jess constantly talks about the way people look like that that there have been multiple times where she’s been in gotten in like been in hot water she’s a comedian now I get that but you know what I mean so like

There’s I’m not talking about when she’s on the stage being a comedian I’m not talking about a while and out situation I’m just saying and and the reason I’m talking about the timing is because it’s interesting that her her interview on the pivot just came out and her biggest regret is criticizing somebody’s

Appearance not knowing they were dying Chad with Boseman and now it’s just this and I’m saying the timing is very interesting I’m not this isn’t talking about her comedic actually find her to be very funny I’m just saying maybe maybe you should think about that her biggest regret comes from making fun

Of the way somebody looked who was dying what if this was what if she took this what if Rea and something bad happened because of people with big bigger micro people with have a bigger platform are talking about the way that she looks in an indirect way not just her weight but

Also her face yeah I think I think just something that consider no I get it so for me I think this it’s like this is the only thing I would say is that you can’t have it both ways right if you gonna be a person that gets your jokes

Off no matter no matter what [ __ ] it be that just be that be the person get you because there has to be somebody like that let’s be for real there has to be somebody that gets their [ __ ] jokes off and just does their [ __ ] and [ __ ] it to be damned

Whoever [ __ ] cares I don’t [ __ ] care about what anybody says I’m here for the comedy I’m here for the funny uh most of the times it’s gonna go right sometimes it’s gonna go wrong we all can’t be in the same bag we all shouldn’t be in the same bag uh of of

Even sensitivity somebody to me has to be the person who doesn’t give a [ __ ] I believe that that person has to understand that so so but what I’m saying is this if you claim to give a [ __ ] if you are going to give a [ __ ] there’s something that comes with that

And there’s and and something that’s coming with that is uh is going to be people holding you to either a higher standard or the standard that they say that you hold yourself to and and and and you’re opening that criticism up you’re opening yourself up for that

Criticism when you say that you care if you say that you care about people’s mental health if you say that you care care about people’s good if you say that you care about people’s wellbe well wellbeing and you care about all of these things people are going to expect

You to act commiserate and I think that that’s that’s the thing right there but there’s a plenty of people out there plenty of people out there that like hey you fat you ugly you this you that they don’t give a [ __ ] sometimes it’s funny sometimes it’s not sometimes you gonna

Get mad sometimes You’re gonna laugh um I don’t know where jff stands in that uh I I don’t know where she stands in that I do know that I typically give comedians a little bit more leeway about the [ __ ] that they say sometimes they even say [ __ ] about people but they

Weren’t and this response was not comedic work I know but what I’m saying what I’m saying this what she’s saying is not being it’s not comedic not to Bel labor this and I just think intellectually this is a little bit more interesting not to Bel labor this right you can talk about this

Is all based upon who the person is as well right like whether or not you can talk about them I took it personally I take it personally whenever somebody talks about bigger people I am a bigger person I’ve been smaller I’ve been in great shape I’m losing weight I’m doing

Good good but I’ve been a bigger person I take it personally right but I also don’t take it personally when somebody talks about like Amish McConnell it says that he looks like a [ __ ] worm or somebody talks about Tim Scott’s teeth what about the worm looking people and the people that got

Twofish like those people I’m sure feel in a certain way whenever those things get so I’m just thinking like there’s there’s a lot to this I think it’s a conversation about how you want to see how you want to be seen and how you want to see yourself um but I don’t

Think there are goingon to be very many people who are happy with that it wasn’t because it wasn’t one especially when the woman is saying how wrong she was done her whole her whole story is devastating I haven’t even heard it all but like the pieces I’ve heard so then

You just building on that keep kicking her while she’s de and by the way and by the way I will say something else just intellectually it doesn’t make any sense if I I watched the movie the Tinder swindler oh yeah none of them women had big

Backs none of them women like like none of them I watched the tnder swi with some like none of all of those women were conventionally attractive I would love to know what big back Behavior means I know what it means for me what does it mean for you [ __ ] check me out

Real quick a couple of days ago because you know I let it go a little bit looser on the weekends so I boxed right so let me see what happened I woke up I lifted weights with Joel shout out to Joel over at equinox and then I boxed I lift the

Weight and then I went to the valley and box right then I ran three miles wow you know what I’m saying I was in my [ __ ] actively black my whole [ __ ] body is sore even right now so I did all of those things right later on man I had

Like a 2500 calorie burn on the on the Fitbit I did 2500 yesterday not the Fitbit on the um on the thing let me see what I burned I did 500 on Saturday and then I did like 1,900 on um on Sunday because Sunday I

Woke up I went in I went on the treadmill I I I ran three and a half right and then I went down and I hooped I was doing my thing but see Saturday night been in Jerry’s chocolate topped caramel Sunday ice cream Boom Big B sat down Bowman was

Looking at me like Dad can I have some I’m like nah this boy’s chocolate bang bang bang bang before you knew it you heard that little sound of the spoon scraping the cardboard down the whole pint gave the whole day back that’s big back gave the whole day back in one

Little thing had done that really the only only the only thing I ate all day was that and some boiled eggs because the smel toes kicking my ass but gave the whole day back that’s the behavior I’m talking about I could do that no regrets don’t regret a thing I could do

That and I’m not and I don’t but all I’m saying is like let’s be honest you know this is like it’s not about that it’s not I think it’s unfair to say that bigger people are more desperate for love everybody’s desperate for love whole thing everybody gets

Taken advantage of what I’m saying I I hate I hate the whole thing all right um talk a little Sports real quick real quick I just [ __ ] all of the backstory the back story is that uh in two 2005 the hman committee the NCAA um they took reie Reggie Bush’s Heisman

Right if you guys didn’t know Reggie Bush one of the most electric College athletes of all time I think it’s a little Karma maybe because Vince should have won it that year Vince shouldn’t have won that year Vince trophy like Vince shouldn’t that Vince Vince uh Vince was was the best

Player on the field when USC play Texas without a doubt he was the best player on the field but the best player in college football that year was regie Bush see okay um but Reggie Bush was uh found to have taken all kinds of improper benefits right USC was banned

For postseason play for for two years they were doed 30 scholarships um and vacated 14 wins including their 2004 BCS National Championship um Reggie Bush’s Heisman was taken from him when his family received um impermissible extra benefits the hman trust said the the hman trust said that they would restore Reggie Bush’s

Heisman if the NCAA reinstated him okay regie B said this about this it’s my strong belief that I won the Heisman Trophy solely due to my hard work and dedication on the football field it’s also my firm belief that my record should be reinstated which said this in

2021 uh the day the NCA announced it would allow its athletes to earn income via the name use and like the name image and Li so apply the law retroactively act to lead Reggie Bush okay he sued in 2023 defamation case um uh saying that the government body’s 2021

Statement that he had a pay forplay arrangement with USC was false so basically said that he was getting paid to play football says not true he fought he he that’s not true he he su him uh Johnny Manzel says he is out with the highman trophy the ceremony ceremony

Until Reggie Bush gets his H back he says uh after careful thought and consideration I will humbly be removing myself from the Heisman Trophy ceremony until Reggie Bush gets his trophy back doesn’t sit right with my morals and values that he can’t be on that stage

With us every year Reggie is the highest with trophy Rachel do you think that Reggie Bush it’s a lot Johnny should be given his Heisman back no and I’m not biased by any means this is a Texas thing I’m not biased yes I do I I do disagree with the votes that year

But that’s not it he won Heisman he you know like we know that we recognize that even if the NCAA and the Heisman trust doesn’t but to retroactively apply that law doesn’t make sense or have other people been reinstated for I guess this they retroactively took his

Hman no not NE neily what are you talking about yes they did well when did the but when did the acts happen it’s not that they after he won it no they didn’t they happened before they happened that year no they when he got the money no I’m saying what what the

When did the a happen is what you’re saying yes when did he receive the cash when did he receive the money for his parents that happened in that year so that it happened then they discovered it made the decision afterwards but the act happened in 2005 right so they or before

So what I’m saying is so that wasn’t retroactive they didn’t retroactively do that well they did it after it happened okay but that’s not retroactively applying it they found out say yes the act happened during found out yes if it had happened afterwards I would totally understand your point if

They punishing him for something else that’s different to me so to me it doesn’t make sense for them to say hey well now we’re allowing this to happen with our student athletes so let’s go back and look at every time a college or an a coach or an athlete did something

That violated this rule because now it doesn’t exist so let’s go actively back and let’s give people back their wins because it wouldn’t stop here right you got to give the team back their wins are we going to go back and look at what happened to SMU are we gon to go back

Like that to me that’s what you would have to do it wouldn’t have to stop with Reggie so it doesn’t make sense to go back and look at every single case who cares can your question who who cares Johnny Manzel well no I’m saying

No I’m saying is who cares if he gets us like who like what I’m saying is why why do you care if they go back and look at every case and go don’t care saying that that’s what would have to happen it can’t be a oneoff and are they goingon

To really go back and do that so everybody’s gonna file some type of okay okay how about this everybody gets tomorrow the NCA wakes up everybody gets their wedes okay great what changes nothing but that wasn’t your question to I know what I’m saying is what I’m saying is you’re saying it’s a

Non-starter because they would have to do that they would have to do that with everybody okay so why why not why not do it with everybody they can do it with everybody but your question to me and I don’t care your question to me though

Was and I’m like well then you got to go back that’s just not how things work necessarily that was the law then this is the law now moving forward this is what applies right so do you have a problem with Reggie Bush not having the highman trophy I don’t

Care seems like you care no I’m this is a topic you want to talk about so I’m forced to care about it in this moment you never you never you you’ve said this before you you’re you’re hard on College athletes he got the votes not I never

Say I’m hard on College athletes he got the vote so in his heart in his heart he should know he williz it’s not like they took it back and gave it to the to the second place person yeah that that I could see stinging a little bit more but

What about but what about the fact that it’s [ __ ] right what about the fact that for sure what about the fact that taking this H trophy in the first this rule name image and likeness should have always been applied to to student athlet give him hisis back so to give him his

Heisman fine but I don’t but if you’re asking me about the law not but nil always should have been a thing for how does how does how does life change if Reggie Bush gets his hman back nothing if that’s how you have presented it to me and said does does

Does anything changeed do you really care I would have answered it just like that don’t have a dog in the fight don’t care all this young finish V second you finish second let’s see how close it was they weren’t close I can tell you that right now but

You but it’s really because of Vince Young right no it just doesn’t make sense to go now we’re going to go back and correct it all can your question according to dialon who are the five hottest rappers in the world dialon Dion Dion dialon dialon do you want to hear something interesting

Yeah on says this is this just popped up I want I want I want to play this for you this is called a Rachel surprise okay a Rachel surprise ceremony I want to hear if you think this makes sense all right so Ashley I want you to play this David

Chappelle said David Chappelle said the top five rappers are Dion Dion di di di well experien I never said that now night now again we could talk about the joke all day but this is we are Flatbush that’s a fact and I gave you my history that’s a fact

So let’s talk for real when they did that again I never now all the people that he made fun of he made the quote or when comedians do these jokes they say something that you said and then they bust it and put it in their own way

Remix it they remix it but this is something that didn’t say at all so I have no control over this you said I’m top five rappers you said I Spit hot fire and I’m over here as a kid saying what are they talking about not only that but right after

Anytime I send my music to DJs they say oh that’s the um the [ __ ] that David chaer made fun and now I’m good on that not only that but every promoter says nah we’re not booking him so now I have a newborn and the fridge is empty in 205 I I’m I’m

Empty no one is calling me everyone is laughing this is not this is Legend now this is this is I’m Legend now now I’m Legend I’m [ __ ] up for what you just did and you’re not answering the phone no one is answering the phone so everybody say oh you BS no man

You gone true man you make it how when at that time at that time no one picking up their phone not a one label and at that time you had to sign to a record label not one label and I know all of them so I’m calling them direct they’re

Like I can’t help you that joke gone by that joke took over that joke burned your career the joke actually burned it at that time I couldn’t do nothing you can stop it now ashle he’s always had a lot to say so dialon says this goes back to what we were talking

About earlier because it just popped up on my think dialon says that that joke ruined his career what do you think Rachel’s thoughts or Rachel surprise I mean I’m sad to hear the fact that he had a newborn and he couldn’t put food on the table like that’s devastating I don’t

Know if you can solely blame that skit if I would have thought that skit would make you more popular because it was such a big deal I didn’t realize that it made him a joke I actually love Dion on making the band um I thought he was

Really talented but I didn’t I thought it would give him more shine rather than him being the butt of the joke and nobody took him seriously in his rap career after that I didn’t realize it would had that effect so obviously that’s really sad to hear I would like

To do a whole show based around [ __ ] like that that opened up an Untold hell for someone because literally pitch this oh for real we’ll talk off okay because you like to say your ideas I’m like we’ll talk deeper right like cuz when I watched that I felt bad

Cuz the dialon dialon everybody knows that but everyone was laughing at essentially this the end of this guy’s career or I guess for that time he’s saying that’s [ __ ] up I think I just thought and this is sad too none of them popped after like popped off after the

Band didn’t make it individually they didn’t so I just thought that that was the case I guess I didn’t look at it as this particular incident affected you I just thought not we never really saw any of him do much after that well he was what he was saying was that he was

Getting the direct feedback that people were yeah like he could have otherwise if that hadn’t happened he would maybe he’d have been okay maybe that’s a sad situation he really was talented though Don’s great is I love used to love let him kick his Dance Hall St I gotta tell

You I just made this comment somewhere else Making the Band will take Diddy out of it for a second amazing every season of Making the Band I wish they could bring it back it you you can’t do TV like that anymore it’ll never happen again I was addicted to the

That Series so I think the the making of the band thing is a better I think it’s an example because even the dialon thing I think it’s example of why it’s really hard to make a star coming off of a show like that um so think about this American Idol you

So American Idol has a bunch of stars and that’s because it’s basically about the singing you get a little bit of somebody’s SB story you know what I mean they sing and they go you know I started singing when I broke my foot 1996 and I couldn’t move I’m walking

Around I couldn’t move I got broken bones inside of my foot I don’t know what to do the only thing that moved me was excuse me the only way I could move was through the spirit of the notes that I could create I was in the bed and I couldn’t

Do anything the only thing I could do was s so now when I see I think about the time that I broke my foot it just takes me back to that moment and it means so so much to me that quivering lip was good like that MC Washington and every time you and

Every time you think of one of those shows you think about that but the difference with that with the band is that you got to decide who you liked and who you didn’t and that’s normally something that you’re supposed to do second in terms of Fame you’re right the

The first thing you’re supposed to do in Fame is like the song or like the movie and the second thing you’re supposed to do after that is decide whether or not you like the person if you decide whether or not you like the person first they will never be as famous as they’re

Supposed to be ever like because you you just know too much like like you and and you you just you just you know too much the first thing that somebody hits you with should almost always be their product oh I love that song because the song is much easier to like than the

Person is the song is a lot EAS so you like you like the song you like the song you like the song you like the song and then you find out that the person is shitty like oh my God you like the song but if you find out that somebody acts a

Certain way that you don’t like or somebody is lazy or somebody don’t want to come to the studio or somebody don’t want to do all of that stuff when the music comes out it’s not the same so that’s why those shows inherently were always behind the aall and so people got

Dion’s uh I guess his personality I I I never thought he was like I mean he had a high opinion of himself but he did yeah but and so then Dave Chappelle lampooned that and then that got LED with it when it was time for Dion to do his thing very

Sad we should have Dion on I would love to have Dion on man it’s time this why I like that’s why social media is a pariah on society but one thing that’s really good about social media is that dialon gets to tell his story and now I would

Love to hear the new dialog record love hold on for a second let me see what diong got out real quick you know what we we we about to get out of here let’s see what dialon put out how do you put it in because the thing

About Dion too is it was spelled Dylan yeah let’s see take us out on some Dion Dion and whenever you put it up the Chappelle show skit is the only thing that pops up it’s like literally the Chappelle show the like the Chappelle show skit is the only

Thing pops up dialon rapper music you can’t even find his music real quick let me see I mean there’s nothing on YouTube about this oh here it is oh here it Is I will stop get coner jealousy AR when making money they really trying to stop me but I wish them all the best wish them all the best See that sound good I always liked them that sound good I’m looking up now an article where they where are they now that’s that actually sounds good all the best wish them all dialon Dilly he has a th subscribers on YouTube um we’re out of here T caps off

Do not stop learning I’m van Le Jr and I’m Rachel and Lindsay bye guys N

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