I w say yes need you to do more and say that I won just say Yes need you to do more and say L I thought you I had a conversation with Steve Bannon in 2015 I believe it was 2015 smiz where we had that interview with him 2016 okay and it was in that moment that I realized his goal was not the United
States of America he wanted to overthrow this government he wanted to dismantle this government because he has a global plan here’s a global plan and it is been planned for a while project 2025 I think is just one little uh you know hint even though it’s damn near a
Thousand Pages which means they put a lot of into it but this has been going on for quite some time it’s a global plan and we’re seeing it play out in Germany Germany is fighting back fascism how Wild is that Germany Sweden Switz I mean it’s it’s wild United
States of America and here we are I’m going to play a 39 second clip from Steve Bannon and then we’re going to talk I also want to give out the number because we’re going to ask some questions of you today 86681 8255 86681 talk is the number SM play
The play the clip C Retribution yo for the TV audience we just had Johnny mckinty on here one of President Trump’s closest advisors Johnny’s going to be running all Personnel he’s actually the guy overcharge of all project 2025 three this is a for joyanne Reed Chris Hayes Rachel mattow and my favorite morning Ma
Suck on this 000 day one to take down the administrative State Brick by Brick your days of leeching off the government have the government Le out the American people over days are over are they now GNA take down the administration State Brick by Brick they’re moving Washington into
Into these rural areas all of you DC all you government workers you’re going to lose your jobs if if Trump T and I’m not scaring you he said that he’s taking all of the DC jobs and putting them in places like Arkansas Texas Florida they’re they’re they’re not going to be
In DC good government jobs mostly are black people by the way let me just say the black people the a lot of y’all middle class built your your middle class D off of the government good government jobs that’s something my daddy wanted me to do get you a good
Government job because with your personality you gonna be fired a lot that’s what he said I said yeah all right Dad I got this i got this i got this he wasn’t wrong but um yeah that’s us they’re targeting us you we’ve been talking Pam we’re not centering this is
Not an a an opposition to but I think we need to know where we are so let’s let’s walk down where we are right now I mean we are a diaspora in this country of not um monolithic thinking but um very interconnected in terms of what we want
And what we need and what we’re looking for um who have been basically driven apart to our lowest common denominator by Ting factors but who when we do move in concert when we do move in unity can get amazing incredible things done for our community which is why
There are so many things put in place to keep us from doing that and it was a trip to South Africa that really kind of opened my eyes and made me really think it was you know because you know I spent uh several years in Brazil when I was a
Child and I got an exposure to black people in a country there where there’s no clear definition of what is and what is not Blackness then I went to South Africa and I and I got hit to a country where the overwhelming majority of people are black but they don’t
Interconnect with each other in that same way because they actually break down along tribal lines and it helped me to crystallize in my mind what a gift we have in the United States what a gift it is that a black person from Arkansas and a black person from Oakland and a black
Person from Mississippi or Massachusetts have at least some common language common legal uh engagement with the with our government and common cultural experiences that allow us to talk to each other and build community and yet we do very little to leverage that we do very little to leverage that we always
Think of ourselves as 14% of the population and in any one place we are 14% of the population some places be 26 some places will be eight but all the aggregate we’re 14 but we’re also enough of the major cities of America to run the states in which those cities
Exist right Illinois is run out of Chicago New York is run out of New York City right most of Michigan out of Detroit Detroit and we have enough power in those City centers to drive the politics from there if we think strategically what I’ve concluded is
That we don’t leverage what we have and what I’ve and and what really crystallized that for me was to look as what in my candidate experience at groups that do actually do an amazing job of leveraging what they have right I looked at APAC I looked at the
Conservative groups so let’s pause what is Apac APAC is the American Israel uh political Alliance or something like that it it’s it’s it’s it’s a Lobby technically it’s a Lobby that lobbies on behalf of Israel and one of the things that I learned because I I was a candidate when you’re a candidate
Especially in a swing District in state of Florida you’re going to get approached by these groups and they’re going to vet you they’re going to try to figure out are you friend or Foe and the way apack worked back then it doesn’t work it it still does that but now it
Actually gives direct to candidates but back then it didn’t give direct to candidates what it did was it vetted candidates and then it told its network of three million people to support the candidates that they like so it looked like just contributions from Americans but they funneled it’s one group that
Made that policy vetting so if you’re sitting here wondering how is it possible that APAC that that the United States still gives money to Israel in the way that it gives to Israel both sides Democrats and Republicans why are black politicians hard up on funding Israel well it’s because APAC has and
That process has made the funding of your campaign inextricably tied to your ability to stay in office right and you can’t keep that funding if you don’t tow the line on funding Israel it becomes that simple so so let’s let’s pause because when we think of running for
Office you think hey I live in a community I want to serve this community I’m going to go out and get the signatures because that’s the first thing you have to go get signatures and you have to file papers to say I’m running to get on the ballot but the
Signatures get you on the ballot and then you get a knock on the door you get an email and and by by the way APAC is American is Israel public affairs committee that’s what it stands for um so how do they reach out well they just reached out to my campaign manager right
Once I once they saw who I was and the first thing they wanted to know was what was my position on Israel’s right to defend itself a very vague statement mind you it wanted to know my position on expansion of the settlements it wanted to know my my position on
Two-state Solution on I mean these are pretty detailed things I had to write a white paper on my positions right to explain to them and this is they’re not vetting to decide whether they are going to give me money they’re going to give the green light to their donor base or
The red light or they can dump a bunch of money in a pack to oppose me if they think I’m a threat which is what they do to elhan Omar and Rashida T and all of them and so you have to understand that what APAC did was leverage the common interest of the
Jewish community in the United States connected it to the political interest of Israel as a country right and then uh forced every candidate out there to declare themselves Friend or Foe to their to their issue and we like okay you’re going to vote for this ever every
Single time because if not we’re not only going to pull our support but we’re going to pour our our money into an opposition that’s why I call a political bullying right but what they did was pause though Pam because there’s nothing wrong with that as you’re talking I’m
Asking is the equivalent to that the NAACP oh and that’s the question Karen is the equivalent to APAC the Urban League is the equalent national it’s not there’s no equivalent why not equivalent to that why not and that’s the question I’ve been asking myself all this time po qua
Because we are too easily Satisfied by seeing Black Faces in Congress by seeing Black Faces in State House and state senate as long as they’re there we think they’re working for us and we are mistaken about that right okay because rule number one of politics is getting
Power rule number two of politics is stay in power rule number three of politics is see rules numbers one and two right 8668 wait hold on let me put out the number because we’re we’re going to we’re going to have a conversation today and APAC is an example because
There many many many many many many many organizations that Lobby that what’s the organization that literally hands legislation to the folk that they support and say here push this through oh I mean there many which one all of them here’s what we want just cut and paste the grover norquist you know um
You know no ta no new taxes pledge I mean there are all kinds of organizations that do that sadly I don’t know of any black organization that does that I don’t know of any black organization that actually lobbies I don’t know of any black lobbying firm I
Don’t know I mean I’m not saying they don’t exist I’m saying as a democratic nominee in the State of Florida in the swing District I never saw one right and they didn’t reach out to you none of them right NAACP does not get involved in politics by its own Charter it does
Not do that right Urban League certainly doesn’t do that none of our fraternities and sororities do that they may have small you know thank God Alpac cap Alpha start started a pack there’s some others that have started a pack but I still don’t think they’re leveraging that the way they
Could right because they’re not truly leveraging their membership they’re just saying hey if you want to give you know we can help brothers or sister so and so but they’re not really leveraging what they have to make that really impactful something I I I put in this outline that
I sent you but but would when you talk about what the Jewish Community has done and believe me I have nothing but respect for the Jewish community in this country even though we strongly disagree on the issues of Israel I still I still make common they make common cause with
Me on so many many other issues but one thing I will you know they’re they’re far less than 14% of this population and they punch way above their weight in political influence how is that possible because they think of of how to to connect the dots between them and
Leverage that greater capacity to move and we have in the black community in immense capacity to move in concert that we do not use we do not have organizations and institutions for that purpose we don’t have black think tanks we have black thinkers all over this country but we
Don’t have black think tanks we don’t have black lobbying firms we don’t have a black-based preparing and vetting judges for state and federal judicial uh appointments we don’t send a the black community does not send a list of our preferred black judges to Joe Biden’s office for federal court appointments
For qua yeah I’m I’m befuddled by that I’m befuddled you know everybody thinks oh we have Balsa at law schools Black Law Students Association it’s a good thing I was in at Balsa at Boston College Law School they also have Federalist Society at Boston College Law School what is the difference between
Those two organizations Balla is designed to help black kids get through law school Federalist Society is designed to get those kids into positions of power in government who 8668 01825 five okay all right I’m I’m taking notes um I was just thinking about um ice Miller I don’t
Know if that’s a lobbyist group I know they’re a public affairs group they there are lot there are there are well they do both law and and lobbying but yes okay is that black I don’t know if they’re blackowned but I know a lot of Black Folk came through them that have
Been on this show so they they’re out there doing some things right okay but but the reason it’s not that we don’t have black lobbyists we do because they’re black members of Congress so white firms hire black people to Lobby black congressmen that go unusual but we don’t have a firm whose
Mission is to draft and push policy beneficial to the black community that’s what we don’t have right because people think members of of Congress do that that members of Congress write legislation very few do most do not most just sign on to whatever the party pushes and most are too lazy to write
Their own legislation some you know I mean you can look at like like um like Elizabeth Warren yeah she’s a she’s a she’s a nerd she likes to write her own legislation and get things done that’s great there are people who parlay on certain issues or some that have their
Pet issue be a veterans issue or whatever but the thing is we want like I want to take just a basic example for the audience to understand why I think this way if we decided as a community that we wanted HBCU funding parody funding parody meaning that every state
That receives federal funds for higher education must fund its HBCU its public HBCU per capita the same way they they fund white pwis in their state right so let’s take a state like Florida if you give money if the state of Florida funds Florida State and Florida it has to fund
Florida A&M per capita in the same way now that is a simple piece of legislation right who writes that legislation did Florida A&M write that legislation no because Florida A’s leadership thinks about it it looks inward it doesn’t look outward right it looks inward so it’s looking to the
Florida legislature for funding and blah blah blah and it’s not actually thinking how do we leverage our entire Alumni network and all of the other HB bcus and all of our social media influencers and all of our fraternities and sororities and all of our influencers to get a
Piece of legislation and to demand that every white candidate that needs black votes to win is now forced to agree to this piece of legislation to retain their own power because that’s what APAC does it says if you want to retain your own power freder Wilson Richie Torres you must agree to fund
Israel that’s how what are they going to do and what are they going to do and because most of us don’t know what they’re doing oh I love the hat oh she she she’s on the thing oh he raps very well oh we don’t we don’t even see that
It that Frederica Wilson is a member of Congress from the state of Florida she’s my sority sister I’ve met her I’ve talked to her on several occasions but she has never proposed osed a piece of legislation to require Equitable funding of HBCU at the federal level right neither has Benny
Thompson right neither has I mean and I have respect for these members of Congress I’m not trying to throw shade on them I’m just saying they don’t do it because they haven’t been they haven’t been asked to do it because I contend um Pam Keith that you know it’s not
Nefarious you you you live it’s the squeaky wheel gets the oil like so we need to squeak more right I feel like they’re not being like evil they’re just we’re not asking them for anything exactly we have these very vague asks and that’s not how Corporate America
Works when I was knocking doors people came to me and said what are you going to do for me I’m like that’s the wrong question right the right question is can you increase my housing stipend by $50 for the next six years that’s a question
Right we don’t know what to ask so when Corporate America approaches policy makers it doesn’t say what are you going to do for the energy sector it doesn’t ask you know how are you going to make my life better as a pharmaceutical company right they say I’m going to
Draft the legislation that’s going to make my life better as a pharmaceutical company and I’m going to demand that you sign on to this piece of legislation and that you sponsor it and I’m going to follow up with you I’m going to throw money at you I’m going to take you to
Nice dinners on the vineyard and whatever and that’s how I’m going to build a relationship and I’m to check in on you every couple weeks and you’re going to see my staff in your office and that’s how I know you’re going to do what I
Want I contend though um and you can I I would love to hear from you that we don’t know what we want or need because we’ve never sat to think about it you know what do we actually need so that’s why the first question uh in Nubia in an
Onx society and I’m inviting all of those who are in Nubia to join the onx society o n YX Society just type that in the groups and then hit join what is the first issue we should tackle you know and and I just want us to start thinking
Through it I don’t know what the answer is but the exercise itself will land Us in some I think uh some good Waters right so when I first got into politics Karen I wrote a a five pillars of a platform for the black community right that addressed um economic issues health
Issues education issues personal Safety and Security issues and and and political power right like those and I wrote it out and I put it on a little pal card and I L literally paid out of my pocket and I gave this little palm card out to people when I met them when
I was campaigning them saying this is what we should be asking for and each pillar had several proposals underneath that would specifically move government money into the black community that would specifically protect black and brown boys and girls that would specifically Elevate education and opportunities for black people and I put
It in writing and I said this is what I think we should be asking for now I’m not saying my ideas were perfect I’m just saying once you put pen to paper you make it real if I say I want to see the number of federal contractors that
Are blackowned businesses go up from 10% to 14% that is a goal that is a number that is fix that’s some and I can say these are the things that I’m going to implement to make that so and this is how we’re going to fund an or office to
Track those numbers and this is how we’re going to actually encourage young people to be entrepreneurial go into vocations that can actually become government contractors like now you start to see which direction you’re going but as long as I have lived in this country which is you know all my
Life and I’m not a spring chicken I have never seen or heard of an organization that actually does that so we’re going to start one and I’m I’m a little sad that we’re in 2024 so you’re saying not a Frederick Douglas not a like I’m just thinking politically
Throughout the annals of time there’s never been a group that has this as its Mission if you know what one I’m all leers okay and we’ll put that out to the audience because again uh our omniscience requires all of us to participate you know somebody knows something that we don’t know you know
You don’t know everything so if there is an organization or a group let us know and then we’ll partner with them instead of trying to reinvent the wheel I feel like we’re in a in a nation of people who I discovered this but never looked to see if anybody else did it before
Them and so then you rewrite history it’s like I was the first no I’m sure there have always been groups of people who think on this level um I would even say if you look at the the the Nation of Islam has people that were thinking like
That Malcolm X had thoughts like that Marcus gy had thoughts like that but they are always in competition with each other they’re always very sectarian or very tribal or very territorial or very Regional or whatever and I’m just not looking to to work on that level I
Believe that um we need to be focused on the levers of government at the federal state and Municipal level why is it that uh schools and black community ities are so dilapidated and schools and white communities always look good because our public education funding is based on
Local tax base does it have to be funded that way no have we ever gotten together and said hey the way we fund public schools in America is shitty and wrong and that what we really should be doing is having Universal Equitable public education funding so that where your ZIP
Code does not determine the quality of your public education we could make that happen if we got our act together to do that we could start the conversation right we could start a legitimate National conversation about why it is that redlining and and ghettoizing of America made sure that
Resources were always easy to allocate to the blacks and whites and the legacy of that is that every state and every major city has black hoods all of them have that that’s not by accident that was by Design but we can undesign it undesign it we can undesign it or design something
Different and follow something different better and more Equitable but I’m just saying if we wanted our kids to have a fair shot and to be really in Great Schools we absolutely could make that happen because if we just leverage what we have we can make that happen we just
Don’t let’s head over to the phones um 8668 01825 the question of the day is what would be the first issue to tackle um and you could talk about if you have an organization if there’s an organization out there that is already doing this that have been doing this for
A while that has infrastructure because that’s the the thing you know I always ask origin stories like how did Apec and the Federalist society and Heritage Foundation and what’s the one that sponsored that Heritage did the uh project 2025 that was them right that was some other group I don’t even I
Don’t all these groups what’s the group with the funny Charlie Kirk’s group I mean he’s 20 something years like how did these groups yeah how did they all form somebody you know somebody help fund them and then they’re out there doing all of this Havoc we need to at
Least build something to protect ourselves or to build a future that we want to live in and and so I you know and so what I tell people is the thing that’s missing in the black community is not the capacity to move collectively it’s that it’s it’s a centrifical force around which to
Move right it’s it’s a load star it’s it’s the thing we’re missing the mothership we got a whole lot of Warriors out there we got a whole lot of spaceships out there they’re all doing their you know good things but we don’t have a Mothership that’s directing the
Whole crew and that’s the problem in my view and so you know I when you ask me what to start with I mean personally I would say let’s just start with something that’s relatively um hermetically sealed easy to understand and easy to push let’s I would start with Equitable funding of HBCU why
Because it’s a great test case great test to discern how do we get all of our community to move in one direction to get one thing because once we who would be against this so you gotta find something that you know because who who would be like no I’m
Black and I think they shouldn’t get any money EXA well exactly because so that’s politically toxic the Democratic party if we win this next election the way I think we will you know the Democratic party will not be able to just tell us to just go do whatever right um we would
Have a situation if we had the Senate the house and the White House and Congress um then all of a sudden you know we have all the levers there right and why not see if we can get all of the black Greek organizations all right the Coalition of
100 men the links uh the Jacks and Jill the um Eastern Stars the the Masons G get all of the Boule get all of the groups that we have on one page for one ask Federal legislation that mandates Equitable funding of hbcus on par with pwi in all states that receive federal education
Funding and since you’ve done a little bit of the research by the way it was the Heritage Foundation that did uh project 2025 Charlie Kirk will be 31 October he has he’s the director executive director of Turning Point but again he was doing that in his 20s I
Think he barely did he graduate from college I think he dropped out went to high school Harper College not sure where that is but that’s neither here nor there as you research this one issue what impact would that have to equal the equal dollars funding the HBCU what impact would that have instantaneously
You would be upgrading the physical plant of all of these universities new buildings new dorms new uh and not only that but then you would start to get Federal funding for scientific and educational grants research you would start to get research and and development in these HBCU that are not
There even though they have the capacity you would start to increase the number of students that they accept so they would increase student body size it would really start to create competition between Florida and or or Florida State and FAMU they’re both in Tallahassee why
Would one kid go to one place and the other well if you’ve ever been to Tallahasse the the the the campus of FSU don’t look anything like the campus of AMU right come on come on and and then and that furthers the narrative that somehow something’s deficient with being
Black but we never we never get to the root of it right so um let’s do that but then but but by increasing that funding you’re going to increase the quality and number of professors right you’re going to increase the competition to get into these schools you’re GNA up and and the
Programs that they can offer the majors that they can offer right like you are it’s game changing and I’m just saying that if we as a community decided that this is what we want if you heard it out of Beyonce and LeBron and you heard it
Out of Dion Sanders and you heard it out of uh you know everybody had hashtag HB uh you know HBCU equality on their shoes and on their Twitter and on their Tik Tok and whatever then all of a sudden it would become a thing and we would force
Those who are against it to explain why they’re against It I won to say yes need you to do more and say L I won’t just say Yes need you to do more and say knew do
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