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The volume podcast Network it is Thursday January 25th and we have got a lot of basketball news to talk about for everyone who sick of us talking about football we got a lot of basketball news today as always Jen Jenkins Jones hosted by dragonfly Jones AKA Tyler hey
Everybody how the good leth and Jenkins AKA John was a Bubbas I’m guardi B AKA Mike I got the burps today y’all I’m sorry [ __ ] M coming to you live with the bur you have the burps though like the burps are thing you have though right the burps are thing you have right
What does that mean I don’t I just I just see you doing this calling me a bourbon ass like I’m I’m I’m a I’m a I’m I’m a clogged up allergic to everything ass [ __ ] and you a you a a buring [ __ ] we all got a little thing you know what
I mean I didn’t I hadn’t previously thought of myself as a I just I didn’t either so you brought it up I’m like that’s maybe that’s his thing but anyway Let’s uh produced as always by the lovely and talented Jackson saffon what what’s Tyler’s thing hats [ __ ] I’m the Hat
Guy I be coughing like a [ __ ] but I’ll mute my [ __ ] if y’all never repat I’m an allergy man my my throat be tickling my eyes be itching bro my it’s my ears I’m always cleaning my ears y’all peep it I don’t know if you ever
Noticed it but I I’ll do that to like pop my ears I know we talked about it on this show but isn’t it a trip that the reason your your allergies are triggered is because of how much tree [ __ ] is like floating around in the air like it’s
Just an intolerable amount of tree come it’s it’s unbearable bro plants out here busting nuts everywhere and we got to deal with for me it’s just weird that my body is overreacting to something like tree but like my body’s response is too much and he needs to calm its ass
Down you know what I mean like it’s that’s that’s weird to me I’ve never experienced allergies and it drives sh crazy cuz you you are the luckiest human on the planet you every I was like 25 I have no [ __ ] idea how that happened dude it just came on yeah oh maybe I
Should shut my [ __ ] mouth then yeah it’s never too late I’ll tell you that it’s a it’s a late are so bad I had to go I I went this is kind of embarrassing honestly but my allergies are so bad that I went to an allergist recently to
Like get like to try to get some some assistance some medical help at 23 at 27 23 and I they do this like scratch test on your back right to test what you’re allergic how allergic you are I did that in high school I did that in
Yeah a lot of people have done it but the I swear to God like they like do the scratch test like wait five minutes right so that your body can react and then they come back in and check you you just swoll up like a [ __ ] I was like
I was like damn my [ __ ] is hella itchy like I but like don’t touch it right the doctor comes back in I swear to God and goes Oh my he goes you are the most allergic person in this building right now God damn and I was like oh this said you
Allergic to everything dog it’s really mostly mostly grass and tree like it’s like pretty normal [ __ ] oh it’s just grass and trees right it’s just all outdoor stuff just it’s just the planet and like to the extreme level so that was was a pretty rough moment for me are
You a nety poot [ __ ] I was when I was younger I was when I was younger but not as much WoW Jack is he had no choice but to be a nety okay so that’s that’s cultural oh I didn’t know that was I didn’t know that I thought that was a sh
Tried to get me to use a netti pot one time and I waterboarded myself and was like this is just for y’all like what the what the hell is a Nutty pot it’s a w I didn’t know this is such a cultural thing it’s a special oh it’s
Such an Asian thing it’s it’s like a special and you like warm the water a little put some salt in or whatever and then if you put your head at a specific angle that only Asian people know what the angle is you can pour the water in one nostril it
Will go through your sinus system and out the other nostril wow and all the [ __ ] out of your great according to sh man it feels great I’ve never the one time I tried to do it like I said Tyler I it was I was just torturing myself I I
Don’t think it feels I don’t think it’s comfortable for me but it definitely helps if you have if you have some sinus issues congested bro do y’all know we only breathe in and out out of one nostril like at a time and that [ __ ] alternates like put your finger under
Your nose right now and watch how you the breath that you breathe out your nose only comes out one nostril I don’t know man are we all do we’re all doing the No No it’s it’s it came out I don’t know brother you brething in or breathing out Tyler the
The left one felt more breathing in but I did feel air from the right one though but it’s heavier on it’s always heavier on one bro and it alternates like if you do it another day it’ll probably be a different nostril bro I’m a little PL they taking a rest they taking they
Taking a was it I didn’t tell you you could have a day off [ __ ] ASMR content like crazy for the podcast there’s nostril sniffing right up next to the microphone yeah I don’t know I uh I famously one time desar suggested that um allergies you know uh might not be the realest
Thing in the world like as a joke like when we when we when we’re like 19 years old and she has never and will never she stick you as a person with allergies for somebody to not have allergies to the point where they think it could be fake
Yeah like it’s somebody like I think it was actually Middle School I did the little little test that that uh the 23y old did yeah you know what I mean like I’ve had allergies my entire life I was taking steroids like getting steroid shots on my shoulders penicillin like
Like I’ll die if I you know what I mean like so it’s not that I don’t believe allg reactions exist I think when I was younger I may have had the belief that may have been passed down to me from an older generation that some of the Season
Allergy stuff was like a big Pharma thing you know what I mean and I think it may just be because my parents also never had allergies Jesus I’ve had allergies my entire life you know what I mean and you just well one thing that Joel mid is allergic to
Is not scoring 70 points this week and that is what we’re here to talk about on this podcast uh 70 ball from embiid stamps his name in the history books fellas where were you on the day that Joel embiid scored 70 in in 36 minutes
At that bro andb that’s just been on a tear um the homie Tommy beer on Twitter put together some stats over the last 16 games Joel embiid is averaging 40.3 points 11.9 rebounds 5.1 assists 1.3 steals 1.9 blocks 1.3 made three pointers while shooting 57% 41 57.4% from the floor 41.7% from
Downtown and 89.7% from the free throw line so doing all that while being a 57 4290 guy right just just an incredible [ __ ] tear that that he’s been on and bro like that mvp is his for the taken back to back and and the fact that it happened
Against wimy you know what I mean like the the I want I I mean because 70 is unnecessary and they beat the team about they beat they beat 7 Tony about what almost almost 15 20 you know what I’m saying like 70 you ain’t got to put 70
Up in a game like that you feel what I’m saying and he Dro and he dropped 70 on wimy you feel me like like 36 minutes I think yeah he had 58 in in the third you know what I’m saying like bro like so he
I mean I wonder if it’s like yo you know you you good young man you know but somebody posted uh what’s your boy name uh uh from um he’s always asking like who’s the first person to bust your ass yes yes yes you saw that tweet you know
Dar Smiles that’s crazy I should know that name for sure but I remember forget everybody’s name if somebody post Darius Mouse who first person bust your ass W will never forget that you know what I mean this might be his this you know what I mean well like if if wemy ends up
Being the best basketball player of all time right embid has stamps that anytime he gets asked about about what was your welcome to the NBA moment and be’s name we’ll get also we can always say you know hey yeah he’s the best but I did drop 70 on that [ __ ] so I
Mean I don’t know if that makes me but just putting it out there I’m just going yeah I’m just letting y’all know I did drop 70 it wasn’t like I had a better game than him I dropped [ __ ] 70 points on this man you know what I mean
The [ __ ] he was a rookie you know what I mean it’s still 70 of them things that’s a lot of [ __ ] points crazy it’s a it’s a lot of points someone else made a point that I appreciate of look at what Steve Kerr robbed us of by taking Stephen and clay out after
Three quars every time the Warriors you know every time they’d have 55 and the Warriors would be up by 18 points or something like numbers are fun right like sports is one of the like big round numbers are fun let’s let like especially because now clay I mean that
Era is passed but like what could clay had gone for on a couple of those nights you know what could Stephan done like I I wish we I wish we got to know the answers to those questions questions bro cuz these are the three of us have
Talked about like Kobe’s 81 game now in B7 it’s like those are games you remember for your whole life like I went back and watched that whole game you know of M like right the six look like they’re having so much [ __ ] fun right
Now by the way you know what I mean but yes but but but Steve CER why did you take that from us bro nothing has robbed us of more historic performances than the coaching Brotherhood listen bro if I was a coach [ __ ] that Brotherhood if my
Guy’s hot I’m keeping him in he going to chase history he going to you know put his name in history books and we’ll just you know if you got issue with me whatever I’ll send you Edible Arrangements you know the next day it’s nothing personal but my dude had the hot
Hand dog we had to chase history I’m sorry bro [ __ ] that coaching fraternity this [ __ ] has 60 points going into the fourth we shooting for 82 here dog did didn’t didn’t Kobe have like a 63 point game in three quar or9 in three quarters against and they took him out
And and then he had 81 81 the next joint you know what I’m saying the next yeah but it’s like a couple weeks later you know what I’m saying but it’s like I thought we learned from Kobe I thought we learned then you know what I’m saying
Like no you know let let let him play it out I know the the the the Raptors game was a closer game you feel me but let him play it out you know what I’m saying we want to see that type [ __ ] so well to to pull back the the Draymond Green
Curtain we were recording as this game was actively happening and Dre was talking about how it’s it’s a bummer for clan Steph not he wasn’t blaming Steve he was just like that we’re always BL I’m blaming Steve was like that we were always blowing teams out back then so it
Was like a 20 30 point game and it was it was about like 12 or 14 about in the fourth quarter about to start the fourth quarter when Joe was sitting and Dre was like I really hope the Spurs keep it close because he wants to see go go I
Think Dre is I I feel like the players are probably like wanting to see the numbers but also understanding the like why are we going to play them if we’re up by 30 situation so it was uh he definitely was was hoping that this first kept it close enough and they did
They kept it close enough and they ended up getting blown out but he kept it close enough to keep Joe in the game yeah I told y’all bro the the inseason tournament making margin of Victory you know a factor there that’s like the the the closest thing that we’ve got to
Actually seeing guys really really kind of run it up on that so that’s another reason I like the n Season tournament 18 rebounds too I mean the [ __ ] was playing basketball he wasn’t just chasing points he was balling you feel me we can’t we can’t gloss over that
Know he he dominated in every way crazy we we’ve talked about you know the the nights that basketball the most fun or the nights when it feels like a community and like everyone’s watching the games and stuff and the um the reaction that KD had when someone told
Him that that that that MB score 70 was like I will remember that for a long time you know mean saw like the Boyhood joy in him from this like you know what I’m saying you saw why we do this this sport [ __ ] like he turned back into like
An 11year old fan that he’s such a purist he’s the perfect person to ask and it was the exact reaction you would expect the last time you saw I’m sorry go ahead no he’s he’s the best scorer we’ve ever seen you know what I’m saying
And he’s like oh my like 70 like he looked off into the universe like he couldn’t fathom and also like the way embiid plays he shoots threes but he doesn’t play like a lot of these guys where they’re shooting a bunch of deep balls you know what I’m saying like so
Like yeah man like that I mean it’s amazing and see KD the best score you know what I’m saying we’ve ever seen reacting that way I mean it was it was it was beautiful to see really I I was going to say what was the last time
After game winner after a game winner he just hit a game winner double clutch game winner he’s like 70 yeah you feel what I’m saying what was the last time you saw KD smile that like his most genuine smile saw you saw his MERS you
Saw his wisdom te you know what I mean a little yeah exactly uh we also had that same night cat uh drop 62 and according to the reporting you know it was like they were checking on uh they were checking on what embiid was doing they
Were trying to make sure his number got to somewhere close to it and I know their coach wasn’t happy now obviously the wolves are number one in the wet like they’re not just like yeah were yeah but it’s not just like empty stat right like this is a real basketball
Team and everything else but I I did think that was pretty [ __ ] funny I have to admit someone someone dropped the you know that the Magic Johnson clip when he’s talking about the the Dream Team practice someone dropped dropped that and said this um this is Carl
Anthony Town seeing that MV put up 7 though you better get him back Carl you know that just perfect the youth the stars align just for that moment bro 30 [ __ ] years ago I hate it I hate it for car that that happens like that you
Know it seems like it you know even when he’s I mean he’s balling this year you know what I’m saying they they the first in the west you feel me it a horrendous no call that that lost in that game though you what it was a horrendous no
Oh for sure for sure he got hit you know I mean definitely but it’s just like it of course it happened to Carl you know what I mean of course it happened to Carl right you know 62 in L gets Charlotte you know and then B drops 70
And smacks the [ __ ] out of wmy like right Le leaky black who never made a free Thro in his whole NBA career made the freeo bro that locked that game up like did you hear the call did you hear the call Ley yeah the sh announcing team
Is so [ __ ] good they are they are incredible bro those small Market teams are fun as [ __ ] like watching um uh uh NBA what’s it called League Pass when you can watch the small Market [ __ ] I love those small Market teams like the Kings the Brad before they were popping
The broadcast yeah yeah broadcast yeah yeah yeah like the um like the like the Kings like prior to when they were good um I think it was 2008 2019 when they had that really fun team that really didn’t do [ __ ] again you know what I mean but like that’s when I started
Hipping like how getting hip to how fun though they their their their team was their broadcas team was but yeah all right we have uh big bucks news and we are going to talk to uh T Windish about this in an interview at the end of the
Episode but uh we we had to talk about it first uh let’s do this in two parts the firing and the hiring on the firing they’re firing a coach who’s 30 and 13 this season uh in Adrien Griffin how shocked were you guys to get that alert um that they were
Firing um I I was a bit shocked but at the same time I feel like we might have seen this coming I thought that that he they might have given him a full season and realized he wasn’t the guy in the off season but you know that 1313 record
It’s it’s just kind of Fool’s goal because like before the season started I think I I know for sure I had the Bucs winning it all now I’m not sure if they make it out the East right that that defense is not what it used to be of
Course you know they they lost Drew holiday of course that factor is in you know you lose your best point of attack Defender but you know the the the bread and butter of that bucks defense was that back wall with with and has beening leaky asell thison right so you know
They got to fix that [ __ ] but I mean you know we heard the stories like at the at the top of the Season Terry stots quit before the season even start your most tenur you know assistant the the the the the guy who is you know who’s going to
Help you maximize Dame and help you work through all the first year Growing Pains that a first year coach would have and you alienate that guy to the point where he leads before you even play a game like that’s when my you know radar first
Went up and even before that there was a quote like you remember when when the whole [ __ ] you know everyone went crazy because Janis said if if Milwaukee doesn’t put a contend around me I’m leaving like everyone went crazy off that quote but if you dig deeper in
Those quotes he was talking there was he was alluding to how he wasn’t quite confident in the coaching there you know how he wasn’t quite confident in Adrien Griffin and that’s what hopped out to me like of course people say yeah you know Giannis is the guy who handpicked um you
Know Adrien Griffin but bro sometimes you pick some [ __ ] and and you realize yo I [ __ ] up you know what I’m saying like like like just because you picked it early you know you made a decision early doesn’t mean that you have to be
You know wet to it I feel like but you know that quote hopped out to me and you know I tweeted that [ __ ] out back in August I was like bro that would would be what’s concerning me if I’m a buck fan because it seems like he’s not on
Board with ag and then we got the reports about how you know of course we knew that that Bobby Portis blew up in the locker room after the inseason tournament lost to uh to the paces where he was like you know the scheming just isn’t fitting us we got to fix this [ __ ]
And then we got reports about how you know even the front office wasn’t on board with ag so if you lose the locker room and you lose the front office bro like you know your time is limited dog so midseason though that’s what gets me I just didn’t think it’d be midseason I
Think you at least give them a year I know we thought they’d be World Stoppers and they’re not you know I mean we thought it’d be impossible to stop that team and do not look anything like that but mid-season is crazy I mean they’re
30 and 13 though I know I know and they just won with five out of six you know what I’m saying like you know they’re playing Adrian Griffin has the fifth highest coaching winning percentage of all time yeah but but I mean they’re not what we
Expected but I just I just I just they’re the number two and super Fair they’re the number uh they’re the number one offense in the NBA obviously the defense as Tyler mentioned has completely been cook and that’s what made them special you know what I’m saying otheris obviously I mean but but
But bro that that record is a bit of Fool’s goal because so many wins was just them you know having star power with Dame and jannis late right like like like that’s and of course you need the guys to be the guys when the game’s on line but in these early season game
In games like you should not be sweating it out with Detroit and Charlotte bro yeah no I’m not I’m in no way denying that it’s Fool’s Gold it’s just that it is very sparkly Fool’s Gold to be 30 and 13 you know what I mean it’s it’s not
Like still third yeah it’s not like oh you’re still fourth in the it’s like you’re 30 and 13 most teams in the league would kill to have that record like as a Lakers who’s just been watching 500 for two straight years right right like just two games above 500 two games below
500 for sure it’s but but with similar topend Talent you know at least in terms of like you know the the top two guys so it but it’s just I don’t disagree with the decision because I think Tyler hit it on the head like you don’t get how
Many seasons do you get with prime Yannis right you’re gonna waste one of them like you know you know you [ __ ] up but you’re going to just waste this one like I I I think it’s the right move now dock the right move for what though so
Let’s talk about the other half of it yeah but Tyler brought up in a group chat he said the the coaching pool is a puddle you know what I mean there’s not a there’s not there’s not a lot of options and Doc is a option that’s
Available and that’s the one you want to go with like that that I mean it seems like that’s a step back you know he’s he’s like a Perpetual underachiever and I’m not talking about life I’m just talking about you know coaching I don’t know the [ __ ] I can’t talk about him as
A human I mean what the [ __ ] you know what I’m saying but as a coach we’ve seen that constantly you know what I’m saying so I just don’t I don’t I don’t know how that makes sense so midseason to get Doc is crazy to me here’s here’s
A stat and and we’ll talk about I think we all have the same opinion of Doc Rivers and so I think we probably all have the same reaction to this move here’s a stat I would love to know has anyone failed to win a championship with more Hall of
Famers than the Hall of Famers who did not win a championship with Doc Rivers I mean like not going not anybody else that’s more obvious like you know what I’m saying we think of Doc when we hear that and we got we gotta we got to filter that even more who has failed
Aside from the Celtics in 08 which like who has who has failed to make a Conference Finals with that much Hall of Fame Talent never mind win the championship who has failed to make a Conference Finals with that many Hall of Fes sheesh yeah yeah
Man I mean I’ll say this yeah man crazy like that’s resp yeah the the reports that came out today that that confirmed it said that you know they’re also going to be doing some searches for some assistance to kind of you know Shore things up a bit there I do think that
Doc will fix that defense I trust him to do that much at least um and I think if I think if they have the right assistance you know because docos [ __ ] is bro you you cannot adjust in the playoffs you know and and because we see that that that teams figure your
Coaching style out mids series and and and and you’re done you know most blown 31 leagues of all time right so maybe if they get right assistance because like I said I think the the the thing they need to do to become contenders is fix that
Defense and I do trust doc to at least do that I’m not sure what he’s going to do in the postseason though gonna hope that you know like y Giannis and Dame have I mean I I guess I can get why doc would be so motivated
Because this could be for him if they do win and he has proven Champion he has a proven Champion already in Giannis right and Doc is motivated that’s not the question no no no no but but but think about this from his perspective well because there’s also some reporting out
That he was hired to be a consultant about what they should do with the head coach and that he straight up [ __ ] he dick ched it bro he was like you know what I think you do need a new coach and you know who it should be Glenn Doc
Rivers who in this room is a coach I I the numbers Jes yeah I think he was um Consulting with with Adrien Griffin though like helping him work through [ __ ] I that’s that’s even more that’s more snakish to me though yikes I saw a lot of people making the same like consultant speak
Joke where it’s like I have a few little a few small notes and one very very large [Laughter] note so it feels to me like you and your you and your friend are getting like beat up at school or something and you’re like man me and this dude like
We’re just getting this dude’s bullying us like let me go find someone else to step in you go get a 90 lb freshman to stand next to you I just like oh we don’t have the Killer Instinct right now we need to rebuild the culture we’re
Going to go get dot dot dot dot dot dot Doc Rivers like that’s the fix my mom my mom hit me up doc that’s all she said doc you know what I mean she’s like FBI she she she’s a fan of black coaches just off the stren so she’s like I [ __ ]
You know she’s like but I he you think he got what it takes I’m like me no that [ __ ] trash that’s what my actual spouse was mama that [ __ ] trash FBI agents monitoring everyone’s text messages must have thought everyone got sick at the same time on that day there
Was just a bunch of people texting the co spiky the right the new you know what I mean uh I don’t I really don’t I I really don’t get it um and I I have to say as a fan of Giannis I’m bummed as a fan of Tyler’s Doc Rivers impression now
Being coupled with Giannis I guess that’s exciting um but I truly don’t understand what they’re I I I don’t get it I really don’t get it of all of the moves to make I do not get this like I don’t think they could have hired anyone
Supposed to get it it’s nothing to get here not it’s not that’s not doesn’t make sense here’s the thing I I I think we all agree that we’re skeptical about Doc Rivers being a champion ship coach in this situation but is he an improvement over Adrian Griffin because I say
Yes yeah that’s fair yeah I mean no that yeah and that’s that’s that’s a good point I think the thing that’s surprising to me is what we just talked about you could have played it safe and gone to the end of the year seen if it worked out right they didn’t do that
They made the aggressive like I would say it’s probably the more analytical decision you have X number of years with Giannis you have to maximize those years we’re going to be aggressive we’re going to uh you know we’re going to make the move right now and then it feels like
You completely reverse that Philosophy by hiring doc let’s do the safest only the most casual basketball fan thinks this is a good idea move like that that’s what I don’t understand you expect the the thinking that leads to firing that guy at 30 and 13 to lead to
Hiring like a young brilliant coach you like to hiring Shawn McVey or some [ __ ] you know what I’m saying like that’s what’s surprising to me is it’s like you go super aggressive and analytic here and then Super someone’s Grandma who stopped watching basketball in 2010 would love this on the hire that’s what
Surprised me in that situation you hire if it’s like what Miami did was SPO you know what I’m saying where it’s like we know this dude is brilliant we’ll give him the keys to the lamberghini like you know what I’m saying and we’ve never heard of wild this is wild but we
Believe in him not a guy that’s just like we’ve seen what he’s done in the big moments that’s not that’s not that doesn’t seem like that makes sense when you you know what I mean like if you’re taking a that’s not a chance that’s not taking a chance on something you know
What I’m saying like right that doesn’t it doesn’t make sense if like if you’re going to go with the aggressive route to me you know you’re hiring a guy who’s not not not every team has a Joe moula guys not every team has a Jo wings for his opportunity no what he
What did he say sh sha Serrano was watching the town and just tweeted uh you I’m watching the town for the 14th time and like godamn is it a great movie or something and Ian Carmel quote tweeted you know uh the Celtics are down 15 in the fourth quarter like they need a
Lineup change to turn the tide Joe Missoula col and then the Sher yeah the lamp was there and he took it got to get those easy wins shouts to you man oh man I was [ __ ] yeah I was dying um all right well I guess we’re
Gonna I guess we’re gonna see here’s my thing you hired a coach who you’re going to be up 3 0 in the first round and everyone’s going to be tweeting the eyeball emoji up you know what I mean like yeah but you’re right he’s an improvement I mean
That’s that’s a fair but that’s actually the best point in favor of hiring Doc Rivers that I’ve heard did they get a better Coach almost certainly yes from what everyone has said about a yeah I’m I’m I’m I’m just always of the belief that Solutions don’t have to be absolute
Sometimes they could be incremental um and you know like I said I think that the stat Jackson does agree with you Jackson’s generation doesn’t agree with him but Tyler is a black Democratic voter in a purple state is what Tyler just said that’s exactly what he just
Said hey like I said you you got to saying did you see did you see the I know n Go ahead go ahead no but but yeah but but like I said I’m interested in seeing you know who they put on that on that staff as assistance now like that’s
The next move that I’m interested in here bring STS back bro like you know what I’m saying if a [ __ ] ran that man out the building bring that man back might be enjoying that might might be enjoying yeah that fired Co I’m trying to tell y’all
[ __ ] you know what I’m saying toad I been trying to say it you know what I’m saying all right let’s we’re going to talk a little Well’s not really football we’re going to we’re going to talk a little uh we’re going to talk a little white culture guys you know Taylor Swift
Has achieved all kinds of incredible things in her career and I I just want to give her credit that she’s not really been known for being a great dancer at least in my knowledge of her but she’s invented something called swag surfing wow that’s huge never heard of that
Before who is this white woman who has invented swag surfing John can’t even do the bit look at how dis disgusting it’s filthy it’s nasty bro I don’t want to take pardon this just just the gentrification bro like I don’t know man like like I feel
Like may maybe these are my my alumni blinders on but I feel like &t kind of made swag surfing big I remember that was the first time I heard of it being being a big [ __ ] deal in arenas at like 2010 and [ __ ] but now you know
Taylor Swift is on the scene and swag surfing is all the rage so I think I think swag surfing was it came out and it took everybody you know what I’m saying like I think entt showed us that everybody does it though like we you know like we didn’t we didn’t see every
It wasn’t like the snap dance where we everybody had a YouTube video of doing you know doing the snap dance you know what I’m saying like I said I’m not at all saying a invented it but that’s when it first my R for sure but I’m saying like that’s
When we was like cuz when you saw it you was probably in the crib like one in the swag sir like everybody we all felt the same way seeing that video so oh we all were took part in [ __ ] like this you feel me I think that’s what
Like also this like my exact respond to the video all I said was nope I didn’t want to [ __ ] on her cuz I actually think she’s a a solid person we yall hit me to you know that she’s not like you know that she’s a she’s a really good human
Being and so I was like I don’t we put you on to Taylor Swift Tyler I’m not a Taylor Swift fan no but no first you said you heard some bangers I never heard [ __ ] I don’t know a single thing that she’s done y’all play the song and
I was like I I don’t hear that you know what I’m saying like but I’m saying like y’all told me she’s a solid [ __ ] so I was like I ain’t trying to [ __ ] on her she’s solid you know what I mean I’m just going to say no this is where I
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Swift is a very good person right um once I found out that she she gave $50,000 bonuses to every single worker on her tour like I was like yeah I was like yeah you’re good forever like I think that she’s on the receiving end of
A lot of V that shouldn’t be aimed at her like aim that [ __ ] at the media for like you know sensationalizing her you know being a Chiefs fan now that [ __ ] ain’t got nothing to do with Taylor that’s her [ __ ] man that she’s supporting you know what I’m saying and
She was just having fun you know what I’m saying but I knew what it was going to become like of course I I respect the [ __ ] here swag surfing the swag want to hit that [ __ ] that that that [ __ ] fun as hell you know what I mean it survived but you knew what’s
Going to come after it you know what I mean we knew what was happening you know what I’m saying brought it to the masses and it’s like these aren’t the masses that we wanted brought to you feel what I’m saying let’s hide certain things [ __ ] I remember I remember I remember there was
This there’s this particular food that I like uh it’s like I’m not going to say it because you you’ll realize and so like d da being with rather there’s a particular food that South Asian people eat that’s fire as [ __ ] and I was like why ain’t y’all tell me about this and
And and the the South Asian [ __ ] hit me up you know what I’m saying he was like you got to keep some things to yourself and I didn’t take that personally I’m like [ __ ] you right you know what I’m saying and so some is $80
A pound now like but also but also I’ll go to [ __ ] [ __ ] um um uh Whole Foods and see some South Asian dishes that ain’t made by South Asian company [ __ ] you feel what I’m saying like they and like you said the oxtails they running the [ __ ] up you feel me
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The problem with like the reason crickets it it never it never been co-oped by the snow roaches out of my business you feel me the snow roaches have gotten a hold of it the the problem that swag surfing always had is that the hawk like white cultural appropriators in America that are always
Circling Black Culture looking for something to swoop down and snatch up right they’re looking for is it fun yeah yeah do you require a lot of Rhythm to do it no you know like you said did she do you don’t you don’t need a a count for the
Swag sir you know what I’m saying you don’t need a a count 5 six seven eight you don’t need none of that you know I’m say you do it while drunk yes bro white people love songs that tell them like what to do like you if you’re ever
Around a group of white people and flow Riders low come on on that low low low everybody’s dropping they they love instructional Dan they throw ass they just right electri slide they I ain’t never I’ve seen a few actually actually no that that uh the um the country [ __ ] in Tennessee that was
Doing the um line dance and [ __ ] he hit that ho kind of nicely you feel me but uh yeah that that’s been a difficult one I think I think I think that struggle to catch on white folks because they can’t really but you hear them like you like
If somebody tells them what to do like you see them doing it like verbatim like they don’t they don’t have any type of you know what I’m saying it’s crazy it’s one thing white people could do look weird I don’t know read instru manual bro can’t read we can’t read the instru
Dance like putting Legos together you know what I’m saying like but it but but I do think it’s it’s connected to and Tyler and also Trill Tyler have both commented on this and I I really do think it’s one of the great anthropological observations of the internet era white people also dance to
The melody and not to the beat which is it’s like there is an inability to understand and the underlying beat of a song and so I feel like dances that have verbal instructions are very important to white people I do feel that to the melody how do you do that not go the
Next time you’re at a wedding with white people watch I promise like it it and I and I’m not I want to be clear I’m not saying this trying to uh set myself apart from white people it cured me like sh had been trying to figure out why I
Couldn’t dance in a basic way for our entire relationship and I saw I think it was trill’s tweet the first time saw it and I went I am always moving to the [ __ ] Melody and I played music so I know what the beat is and let me just only focus
On that and all of a sudden we’re at weddings and I’m the white guy who does not trip over himself dancing what’s funny is you saying next time you’re at a wedding with white people I’ve never been to one but I’m going to one this
Year for the first time oh I’m you got to report back I’ll be able to I’ll let you know how you got to report back that’s crazy when are you going no I I’m going to put it on the calendar we need to talk about I think it’s a summer I I
Don’t be knowing I think it’s a summer but yeah yeah I’ll let you know I I’ll look it up when they start playing Taylor Swift or whatever they’re going to play I promise you you will see when the melody start or when the when the U when the chorus starts they’ll start
Dancing harder you know what I mean what’s great is what’s great about that is that’s when I’ll probably sit down you know what I mean and I can just really watch I’m not dancing to Taylor swi that’s just not in me you know what
I mean no no no John’s in John’s in for a world to Hur when he has no idea can you sing a little bit of Mr absolutely no idea coming out of my shell and I’m feeling just fine got to got to be down because I want it all people are you
Will see people dancing to the got gotta be down not to the beat I I promise you I think the most song at a wedding is shout I just had to throw that in there because that’ll make me want to shout they they dancing to that [ __ ] they are wow
Unbelievable if you want to really get into the the cultural difference between different races of Americans talk to a wedding DJ oh wow oh I got I got a homie we should bring him on the Pod if you have if if you have a friend who’s a wedding DJ who DJs different races
Weddings I like that will I promise you that would be an entertaining conversation for sure I’m call out I’m going call him after to record I got to I got to I’m trying to figure that out this is very interesting you might unlock something for him by pointing out
That white people dance to the melody and not the Rhythm yeah he might be confused too he might might solve something for him to put a button on this segment I I Googled uh I was trying to see what if there were any funny news articles about this Taylor Swift thing
Because everything she does on NFL games gets aggregated and stuff yeah and sportingnews.com this is I’m going to read you the title of an article and the first line you’re going make angry probably title what is swag surfing everything to know about the chief’s vital dance celebration as Taylor Swift Donna Kelsey participate
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Explain how to internet with gabio sorry editor know this article has been up this article has been updated from its original version with additional context about the origins of Swag Sur in Atlanta the origins Origins just didn’t even know the writer a white man named Jacob clearly didn’t know gotta be a
Jake it’s always a jake or a z one of the two bro shout out to Jacob might be Matt too but go ahead oh all right had no idea existed prior I had no idea existed prior we’re going to take a break and we’ll be back to talk all the
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Podcast Ty is a uh a bucks expert and obviously it’s been a very momentous time Ty thank you so much for hopping uh on the show and what’s the last uh week or two been like for you covering the Bucks brother um thank you for for
Having me first before I uh get into what it’s been like um so I hate being the person who does this but two days ago was my birthday which is great you know everything else I’m not trying to elicit happy birthday here happy birthday and like 100 p.m. or 11 or
Whatever it was you just see the Adrien Griffin has been fired by the Bucks W bomb come through my computer in the middle of the workday and there had been so much talk about what Griffin had done wrong the few things he had done right there was a pretty boisterous Griffin
Contingent you know locally here in Milwaukee from the start I would say and then of course a lot of folks nationally also would glom on to a couple things but I really did not expect him to just get fired I mean they’re still we’re 30 and 13 at the time everything else and
Then of course the news comes that it’s probably going to be Doc Rivers maybe it’s going to be Kenny ainson then it’s for sure Doc Rivers announced live on TNT then it’s not then it is again now he’s getting $40 million so it has been a roller coaster uh I would say the
Things that have come out about how the Griffin tenure was going really make make you more receptive to another coach even if it is Doc Rivers and the baggage that comes with it but it’s been just a wild ride I mean the first part is just you know to make a big high-profile
Coaching change when you’re second in the East I think tied second in the in the NBA in record is just not something you really see ever especially in the first year of a head coach the Giannis and of and Dame of it all makes it I
Think even Messier but I think the Bucks probably did need a change I think you know if guys were not even listening to the defensive play calls and everything that’s just not tenable going into a playoffs when you know you have to win and you have Giannis and Dame like you
Cannot waste a season someone would say are you doing that with d Rivers maybe maybe not we can get into that of it all but uh it’s just been wild is the the onew summary I would use of this week how old did you turn uh 29 oh that’s a
That birthday doesn’t count bro we we tell Jackson all the time you turned 23 and you’re 23 till you’re 30 so you didn’t miss I’ll gladly take that I’m 23 till you’re 35 you know me almost 30 almost 30 in my house for 5 years so I
Will gladly be 23 that sounds much better to me okay so you know you mentioned that there was you know an anti Adrian Griffin contingency in the fan base and it you know Ur was constantly in the heart of it all but I saw it on Twitter that there was for
Sure like you know War Bucks fans on on you know this contingency was for AG this this side wasn’t like where were you at during all of that yeah all on up to it I was Pro I mean I really did think there was some good things he did I thought
Number one was they were really malleable defensively um one thing I really liked about how he coached is you know after the first five games they tried to use Brooke as like in the Raptor’s aggressive defense Brook Lopez and it was a disaster and they had to
Just stop doing that and go back to a more aggressive form of the Mike buen Holzer drop defense but when that would inevitably not work like they would play zone they would switch everything they would Trapp or Blitz with Bobby poris like you would just see all these
Different coverages and that idea I think is good like I think I think Milwaukee in the past has kind of famously not been flexible enough on both ends with how they play but I I thought you know okay there’s been these tweaks to the general scheme which is
The drop defense and I think they’re getting to it and really I think through the month of December there were a lot of really positive strides they won a lot of games in a row they had a couple of bad losses um I think Christmas they
Lost to the Knicks but they had just beaten them you know two days prior so those two game sets can just be weird but then January they just came out flat and think that’s when kind of the the Articles like we’ve the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported that you know
Some of the best defensive moments of the year the players were ignoring the play call on defense and just kind of doing what they wanted to do which that to me is like okay that’s you’re probably cooked at that point if that’s going on and that’s the best moments um
The a bunch of sources have just reported generally that like the the messaging just wasn’t getting through right players were not we’re not feeling it we’re not receptive we’re not um bought in enough and I think that plus the defensive struggles kind of is what since firing has turned me but I did
Think I thought he could make the strides I thought Griffin could be a good enough coach and I frankly just never thought that he would get fired because you end up in a situation where there’s so few options but clearly the people who were out on him saw the red
Flags Terry stots getting leaving before the season and you know the article with Bobby poris after the inseason tournament clearly those people were on to something and I overlooked those things to too much of a degree so you know of course this is you know the defense we’ve seen from the Bucks this
Season has not been a championship defense um you know and of course that happens when you lose one of the best perimeter players in the league with Drew of course but you know where are you at do you think that this defense has declined because it is a Personnel
Issue or a scheming issue I think it’s both um it was encouraging they defended Cleveland pretty well last night I mean the Cavs still scored even without uh of course they’re without Moy and Garland for a while now um but I thought overall their defense looked a little better but
I do I think it’s both like I think their scheme was still too aggressive um they were going for offensive rebounds and trying to force turnovers they really weren’t good at either thing but they still they they ratcheted back a bit but probably not enough I think
We’re probably going to see I mean who knows but we’re probably going to see the Joe prty Doc Rivers whenever he’s officially hired it hasn’t happened yet as we record I assume it will on this podcast just because that’s the max entertainment value but I think they’re
Going to probably keep Giannis closer to the basket and then just Shore up the defensive rebounding they’ve given up too many offensive rebounds and just play a little more conservative on that end basically without Drew I think you just need to make players hit shots over you which honestly I think in the
Playoffs is kind of where you end up anyway I mean good offense beats good defense but I also think they just do need more perimeter defense this was my most common refrain Pro Griffin in terms of like their one two3 is Dame Malik Beasley and Chris Middleton Chris
Middleton in 2024 who’s a much different Defender than when he was the 3 and D guy like six years ago that’s bad that’s just really bad and as good as Brook Lopez is as great as Giannis is you know having no stopper on the perimeter at
All or anything close to it is just very hard to overcome no matter how you run your defense and Off the Bench they’re not bringing Ace defensive Personnel either the young players Andre Jackson and Maran Bo champ have shown flashes but I don’t think they’re like lock down
Defenders right now so we’ve gotten reporting like I think they’re going to make a trade to find more defense as well to throw in here but I think the scheme just you know Shoring it up being less aggressive making teams just beat you versus you know getting lost or
Blowing a rotation and just giving up dunks I think that will help at least in the short term make them be able to just survive on their offense like they did earlier in the season it it’s chiper bust with this team like Giannis feels that way the
Fans feel that way Dame feels that way what do you think they saw in Doc that we did it that can get them to the point where they could they’re a championship winning team well 16 years ago no I don’t actually think it’s it’s related to that um 14 years ago made another
Finals so for those people SC at home um had a lot of success when I was in high school but um realistically though I I think it’s it’s they tried the first time head coach they took the big swing on Adrien Griffin of like let’s find the
Guy who can and I’m not quoting anything but the idea of like let’s find our guy who’s going to be the coach for 10 years you know let’s he can grow with us and he can be here and run this team and all these other things
And they just failed I mean they they swung hard and they missed hard I mean there’s the reporting that Giannis just is not a Nick nurse guy and that’s why they they didn’t go with Nick nurse and then out of the other options it was like Kenny ainson or Adrien Griffin
Myself as a not not Nick nurse guy as well to put it mildly I I’m still okay with the honest’s line of thinking even though nurse is doing a good job in Philly um but I think they they now want to shift chorus and go we need someone
Who’s proven like we can’t take the risk again and I think even like a Kenny ainson who’s in a assistant with golden state right now and they could have reached out and tried to do that like the Wolves did with Chris Finch a couple years ago I think they wanted a true
Known commodity someone that there is no question this coach will come in and Giannis and Dame which are two big- time names are going to listen and are going to be bought in and and locked in on both ends of the floor frankly if you
Look around at this point in the year I mean there’s not many other guys besides doc there really aren’t who are that available and who have been Consulting with the Bucks coaching staff which was like a wild detail that came out of all of this like for months he has been like
Meeting with Adrien Griffin or at least did once I mean it’s kind of back and forth on how that’s been reported or who reached out first yeah we said it was a bit of a Dick Cheney though right it’s like he’s like oh are you in need of a
New coach I might know someone who could use $40 million well that’s the thing I mean um I don’t think it’s a snake move personally because I I think the everything that’s come out probably Griffin was going to be out out the door either way I think it just made sense
Who knows Maybe I’m Wrong on that um but I think the Stars kind of a line for Doc he had a bunch of Leverage he made use of it in the contract negotiations based on what we’ve heard um and that’s why they just needed like someone who could
Get get them a good plan a which they haven’t had if your plan B isn’t as good I mean our plan a is still Damon Yannis so hopefully that just gets the job done I think is where they’re at now I think I think it it for sure looks like a a
Move where they let the fox into the chicken coop with letting Doc Rivers be the consultant to me um because if if you listen to you know the games that he called you can tell that he still wanted to coach like he used to be so hard on
Darin ham like like I I don’t understand these rotations what is he doing here like and we rarely heard him criticize any other coach like you know he probably wanted that Lakers job he probably saw that hard that that you know hand might be on the chopper block
Too so you know I I for sure you know thought that that was a big conflict of interest he was picking the wiggly tooth Tyler right he was like who could I maybe lean on a little harder here for sure well the funniest part is that you
Know if you line up the timelines if he started Consulting like late December that’s the worst games of the year have been since he started so that is kind of funny if you just look at it as like a what what tips was he giving and how did
They work out here yeah he might have he might have sabotaged that dude no telling no telling with Doc man don’t telling was secured the bag was secured notorious under the bus thrower I wouldn’t put it past him dog and that’s another thing I’m looking forward to
Because bro like like you know there’s going to be a tough postseason loss and he is going to throw [ __ ] under the bus like Yannis is going to be wondering how the [ __ ] did I get here dog I don’t think Dame and jannis are the folks is going to deal with it in
The way they they you know how when in Philly they gonna let them know exactly what [ __ ] time it is you feel me so she ain’t going to end up sweet like it did in Philly if he goes that route he has to know that you know what I mean
He’s just got to pick smarter I mean that’s the thing is I I kind of Wonder Too like is is Griffin going to get further thrown under like after after a bad loss like oh we have to undo like we’ve been have to work on so much we’re
Building from the ground up cuz I can’t he like a president they’ve been socialized to losing or being mediocre like right it’s it’s like Doc going to come in and be like a president that just got elected well I got to deal with the last guy’s economy you know I mean
What am I supposed to do with this that’s right there for him I think that’s fre and then he can start picking players next year that are going to be at fault next and uh he he gets an extra built-in year there which is nice for
Him there’s no there’s no Ben Simmons in there that’s just gonna eat that you know what I mean there’s not a Ben Simmons on that you know what I mean no there’s not uh I need I need the Tyler’s Doc Rivers impression telling Adrian Griffin to to play Brook Lopez higher up
Further away from the basket on defense hey look look look you want him you want him to attack the screens you don’t want to put him in drop coverage he’s he’s not a good he’s not a good rim protector I’m telling you right now he’s overrated
As a RI protector don’t put him back there hey he I’m telling you he probably sabotaged that man well he also now you’re wining me over to this cuz he went on the Bill Simmons podcast and was basically just like only talked about how their offense could be better which
To me is hilarious if it is a tactical move in terms of like I mean I can’t save this defense either but we could get more out of the offense so let’s talk about how that can be better yes so um um you know the the
Thing about this hire with me is you remember in the Summer where jannis said bro if y’all don’t put a contender on me I’m just not resigning and that was a big deal right like you know NBA Twitter went crazy with that but in that very
Same interview um let me see I I got to P up here it was an interview with the New York Times and this is what hopped out to me when everyone was going crazy over what jiannis said about you know how he’d leave if there wasn’t a contender around so Milwaukee fired his
Coach Mike B buis holder and hired Adrian Griffin who had been an assistant coach for the Toronto Raptors that change atenta kopo said is part of why he is unsure if he’ll sign an extension now here’s the Giannis quote you’ve got to see the Dynamics he said how the
Coach is going to be how we’re going to be together at the end of the day I feel like all my teammates know and the organization knows that I want to win a championship as long as we’re on the the same page with that and you show me and
We go together to win a championship I’m all for it the moment I feel like oh yeah we’re trying to rebuild he paused briefly before continuing there will there will never be hard feelings with the Milwaukee Bucks I believe that we’ve had 10 unbelievable years and there’s no
Doubt I gave everything for the City of Milwaukee everything every single night even when I’m hurt I’m a Milwaukee Buck I bleed green I know this this is my team and I’m it’s going for it’s going to forever be my team I don’t forget people that were there for me and allow
Me to be great and to Showcase who I am to the world and gave me the platform but we have to win another one that was what hopped out to me bro like he did not seem confident in that Adrien Griffin hire from the very jump and I
Expressed that on Twitter and people were like well he’s the guy who picked him I’m like bro you can have buyers remorse as soon as you drive that car off the lot you know what I’m saying like like it doesn’t take you know a
Whole a whole you know a lot of time to realize that and you know that’s why you know i’ I’ve got my questions about the doc hire but I’m not mad at them cutting ties with Griffin because you don’t have to commit to a mistake long term soon as
You realized it’s a mistake yeah I mean that’s they’ve moved very aggressively since horse took over in I think 2017 or 2016 um and one of my favorite things about John horse as an executive is that willingness to oh I made a mistake let’s fix it I mean the year they won the
Title their big offseason signing was DJ Augustine to be like the reserve point guard in run pick and roll it was disastrous and they traded him at the deadline just a couple months later and got PJ Tucker who ends up starting on the title team like they they won’t sit
Around and just go like ah we’ll make it work everything else I mean they traded Drew holiday I mean obviously you get Dame that makes everything more palatable but Drew I mean champion at alltime Buck like was so crucial to what they what they were and what they became
And I think that’s what happened with Griffin 2 the Giannis quotes are always interesting one I think y Giannis just lies and I’ve said this but people kind of like bucks like will like get up and like no don’t ACC I’m like he just says
He says a lot of things Giannis says a lot of things if you read through the long quote about what it was like to lose Adrien Griffin it starts off with people think I have control I don’t make the decisions I don’t want to it ends
With I wish I did have the control but I don’t it’s like what do you want do you not want it it’s like I I do think his role in front office stuff is a little overblown I think he gives like a yes or no and then like there’s then the front
Office goes from there like I don’t think he went in there and said it has to be Adrien Griffin I think he said not Nick nurse I like Adrien Griffin and they went there from there I’m not saying nothing rests on Giannis with this obviously he did have a positive
View on Griffin before but I don’t think he is as involved as as some people do I think like LeBron and what he has done has made it so a lot of people think that’s every front office and like I don’t think the Joker in Denver like we
Need to get this rookie in the draft this year or whatever else like I think there’s a lot not grinding tape I don’t think he yeah yeah I think he just wants to play let me that’s my job I want to do my I’ll show up a little late I’ll
Show up and for My Horses um but yeah I think uh he’s certainly involved and they get his input but I don’t think he’s making all the moves himself I I’m I was kind of curious about that because I think from an outsider perspective um Jan is certainly like we’ve certainly connected the
Breadcrumbs on AG being kind of his guy and then I just don’t believe there’s any way a team fire like when they’ve just resigned the guy when he was talking about not being there if they’re not a contender I don’t believe there’s any way you fire a head coach at 30 and 13
Without a sign off from the face of your franch right% for sure but then I was curious at those quotes today that were sort of like you know ah it’s not you know I I I I agree with you there’s a little bit of the like um yeah you know
I’m just here like what am I supposed to do like you want say though yeah [ __ ] that dude you know what I’m saying like to go you know I it doesn’t matter I mean I don’t it doesn’t matter to me like what he says at all but I guess I’m
Just curious for Tai’s perspective on you said you feel like his his you know the sort of uh lay GM thing is like over Brown a little bit with Yannis I’m curious like what do you think like what level of control do you think he wants
If LeBron’s on one end of the spectrum and the Joker’s on the other end of the spectrum right like where does Giannis see himself and how much control is he flexing in these moves it would just be very funny if actually this whole time Joker was super involved and just
Playing it off that was what I thought of during the question but um that’s very Poss I don’t think that that’s impossible I think there would probably be more guys from um outside the US on the roster there’s a few but I think there’d be more more can cars out there
The the fases uh yeah the finis involved at all and and Alex tupo plays for the Wisconsin herd again actually just last night became the herd alltime leader in games played so um there are ateta kmos all over the place in the Bucks orc um the NASA is on the
Squat you know that’s B you know yeah yeah just a source of joy for all I think Bucks fans have just accepted like the mean I don’t know if you guys saw he asked for mailbag questions for a pod with Dame like an hour after the news
Broke about Griffin which is just the funniest thing of all time to his Instagram group on he’s just like I have a mailbag who wants to know anything and I was like Wow ta is like a true podcaster honestly salute like hey this is great content I feel bad for our team
But this is tremendous content um he’s he’s he’s quickly turning into my favorite players he is hilarious he yeah he’s so unserious dude like that whole Dame time celebration when he yeah yeah he does everything wrong you know what I mean someone said he someone said he was
Doing the Dre time celebration when he did that doing the Dre B Green yeah I love that dude man you just have to accept now like he’s there he’s like there for moral support essentially and and he get an energy and and he brings those things um to Yannis his role I I
Think it’s I think he gives his input and I would imagine imine the horse the buck front office Brain Trust ownership whatever probably it’s like okay anyone Giannis is okay with that’s who we’re going to pick from we’re not going to hire someone or trade for someone who
Giannis is like actively against like I think he always wanted to play with Dame and I think this is kind of the conflicting thing of of Giannis and really any player you know Giannis has never been one who has ever come out that he wanted a player traded that he
Wanted to get rid of someone he’s wanted to play with other guys but I don’t think it’s ever been a situation like we need to get this guy off the team I think there he gives his sign off on coaching candidates and players like if
We can get them and it makes sense for the team go do it and then they go from there I certainly think they’re not making a major move without running it past him I think they’re not opening up that thanasis roster spot without running it past him either um but I
Think that’s that’s kind of his role and I will say maybe I’m swung by this but I think horse also does a good job of trying to make that very clear like he did a press conference before for the game last night and he said I didn’t
Consult any players I went and talked to them after the move do I think that’s BS yeah like I think I think Giannis had to sign off on some level even if it was a back Channel type deal but I think that’s a good thing for the org to do to
Really we’re the Bad Guy Yannis didn’t get anyone traded Giannis didn’t get anyone fired we get his input but we didn’t ask him about this we just did it and we broke the news again I don’t think that’s 100% true but I think that’s the right way to go about it to
Not then frame this and have this like Li GM ISM it’s probably going to come anyway right people are mad about everything but um they try and go about it that way at least what what are your your realistic expectations how how in your mind do you
See this season going now with this coaching change oh man um I mean I still I still think they have a pretty good shot to win at all I mean I really do obviously you’re not going to go into many series thinking that they have the Supreme coach but also the Celtics have
Been everyone’s favorite for two years or more than that and I don’t know how many Joe Missoula stands are out there either I think it’s just at the end of the day do we yeah Jackson our prod producers yeah show [Laughter] yourself how do you feel about the town it is a great
[Laughter] movie the Celtics I love hey and you know that is one are the Celtics going to hang a banner on that uh when they get bounced this year they’re going to say we had the best record in the regular season the Bucks probably bounce them too but
Anyway well we’ll see when the buck for 170 a game on the Celtics I mean that’s the goal I think uh I’m you you have to be at least a little confident even with how it’s and the other thing it’s just been a mess like outside of just who is
The coach the process to get here has been such a mess and now you’re down even more time when you already acquired Dame what like two three weeks before training camp they were already on a tight congested schedule and I think that’s been some of the bumps in the
Road with Damon Yannis and their chemistry and everything which was always go two guys who are that ball dominant playing together I mean it’s going to be an adjustment for all and everyone else on the team but those are the two that are really important but
Also like when you check ball in a playoff series are there two players on any team in the East who are better than either one of those guys like I think you could probably make the case the Bucks will have the best two players in
Any series or at least at least it’s a combo and I think that is a very strong position I think if they balance the roster and that’s the other thing about the roster they built it for Drew and you can see that they got all offensive role players because they that was their
Issue in the playoffs they couldn’t score enough in the half court then you flip the point guards and it’s like okay we have all offense now we don’t need as much like we got Damon Yannis and Chris that’s going to cover almost everything so they just need to balance the roster
Get a little more depth in there I think but I still feel relatively good about their chances in any series it’s the buck way that nothing will be easy they didn’t lead after 48 minutes in any series when they won the championship despite sweeping the heat which almost
Is impossible uh but I like their chances still and I don’t think it’ll be uh I don’t think that there’s any team I think is clearly better than them even if Boston is awesome I have my questions about them in the playoffs still Chris stop starting what was that stat you
Just said show they didn’t lead a series after 48 minutes they went to overtime in game one of the Heat and then swept them and then they lost game one in every other series that year wow so yeah that’s the other thing they also never
Went 3-1 in that Series so do they can do it without Doc’s weakness that’s my Reon for optimism they won a title without ever having a 3-1 lead so that’s they’re indestructible they know this the code Jesus bro what a this is your head coach this is you get congrats to
That man whether y’all win or lose bro how hey we need he needs to write a book you know a self-help book and I’ll definitely read that [ __ ] for sure shees 40 40 40 million to have everyone making the joke you just made is [ __ ] nuts to me um my last
Question is you know you you say you’re your your late 20s um you’ve picked a great time historically to be a bucks fan yeah that a m of the of the media right can you just sum up like we we make the jokes about the nasis or
Whatever but obviously if you’re a fan of like 25 teams in the NBA you’d cut your pinky off to get Giannis so having a funloving brother on the team is like you know the easiest price to pay can you just put into words what giannis’s impact in Wisconsin in Milwaukee to you to
Everyone has been because obviously he’s elevated the Bucks to one of the teams that everyone’s talking about that truly matters um when you know I mean realistically it just obviously was not who they were as a franchise for for most of their history yeah I’ve got a
Couple quick things I could I feel like answer that with I mean one game six when they won the finals the deer District I I think they had like how many thousand people there I mean like a ridiculous amount amount of people Outdoors to watch the game and I asked
An old beat writer of the Bucs Matt Velasquez do you think there were more Bucks fans in that place watching that game or like total Bucks fans in the state in like 10 years before that or five years and he had to actually think like it’s probably pretty close like it
They were they were a dying fan base Wisconsin of course the Packers everyone who knows about Wisconsin knows about the Packers the only reason anyone knows about creen Bay anywhere uh and then even though they haven’t won anything in forever like the Brewers people liked more generally the had been so obscure
Which is sad CU they had a great history I mean everyone loves Marcus Johnson now and those 80s bucks teams are really forgotten about they just couldn’t get over the humps it was Dr J and Larry Bird but they were great teams in the 80s and of course Kareem in the 70s but
They had been bad so long Michael red I don’t know you know what I mean we love him we love him forever he puts out LinkedIn statements on the team now which is great I respect Michael red I love him as a player too but as the number one guy on your team
Yeah get kind of rough you know what I mean I hope Michael R doesn’t listen I really want him on my podcast don’t listen um but I they probably would have moved I mean I think it was pretty close that they would have when the new owners
Bought the team when Yannis was still there there’s a chance that they I mean the old owner herb cole really really wanted to keep them and that was contingent in the deal but like the valuation of the franchise and everything was way different because to be honest so there’s a factor there and
Of course their position in the NBA now and within Wisconsin Sports is just vastly different and I think there are probably few other players who would have stuck around this long I think Wisconsin knows how lucky they are and I think he feels that I really do I mean
There’s a lot of people in the state especially in Milwaukee almost everyone I would say who’s like out and about has a story of seeing Giannis and every time they’re like I I like half waved at him when he walked past but didn’t want to bother him and it’s like the kind of
Uniquely thing with a market like Milwaukee where I think he really appreciates that he can live his life here I mean obviously he’s popular but like I know someone who like their kid was in Swim School with giannis’s kid and Yannis would like show up and wait
To pick up the kid and and this kind of stuff like he can live a more normal life I think that he really appreciates in in return but yeah I think the bucks he brought them to places they hadn’t been in literally 50 years and they could have never been again Milwaukee
Wisconsin getting two of the best X whatever players in NBA history is just beyond unlikely given the way we all know the NBA works the fact that he’s played more than a decade here it looks like he may play out his career like you
Read the quote Tyler he needs to be on a contender I think that’s fair I think that’s the NBA economy they may lose him eventually but what he’s already done and what he’s rebuilt the city as the new Arena the deer District everything with it he’s a part owner of the Brewers
They give away Giannis Jersey every year too um it’s really like you can’t calculate and that’s why I never get too low on theis too upset when he’s taking threes or any of this stuff or these news reports come out cuz he’s already done so much more than I think almost
Any NBA star has done for any other City individually and I hope people remember that in Milwaukee and just don’t take that for granted I’m not trying to start a competition here with other guys but I think it’s it’s up there already that’s I I don’t even know who else you’d put
In the same like category as him it’s you know like you say you read his biography you read the profiles of him it’s like you said like everyone’s got a story like a personal story and he literally kept the franchise there like and made them a
Thing like they were a joke for most of all of our you know NBA real watching existences so like like I remember that one clip that someone in Milwaukee posted when they caught jannis coming out of workout had a nice little interaction with him and someone zoomed
In on his water bottle and he had written on a Sharpie on it win MVP win a championship like yeah just a different dude man I never thought of the benefit of being able to be a human because Giannis in La is not a human Giannis in
New York maybe but probably not you know what I mean there’s very few cities where a Giannis could be up can pick his kid up from swim practice you know what I mean I mean that’s a huge benefit for somebody like him who doesn’t seem like
He wants to be a LeBron as far as like you know stardom and all that you feel me he’s got like a production company now he’s done like some of his own biographies and like his brothers and him do business but like uh there was a
Solid you know what I mean oh yeah yeah and he likes to work with his family he all wants it to be all involved like that there was a clip a TMZ was interviewing him and I think his now wife uh in La like before the last
Contract and you could tell was so bothered by it and I think a lot of us here were like yeah we have a pretty good shot I think if we remain good just because like doesn’t happen here like it’s it’s not that level of and Yiannis
Really did not like that I think you know he’s famous he enjoys being famous he hases his brand deals he goes to gree all this stuff but he also wants to be low-key and just like be at home with his family and I think Wisconsin that’s a good people have laughed before but
It’s like it’s a good good advertisement for Wisconsin if you’re not looking to do everything in the world but just eat some good food drink some good beers go home to your family it’s a good place to live and I think Giannis realiz I don’t know if he drinks beer but otherwise
Think Giannis realizes that stuff as a wife guy you know what I mean and he like a wife guy I think that’s a hell of a sales pitch you know what I’m say are the are the yeah is is Wisconsin the official state of the wifey that’s like
A conversation for another pod hey D Jones might need to pull up you feel me reloc chill out chill out chill out chill out I I tried to pull up barded us all right Ty thank you thank you so much for hopping on uh like I said you
Can catch Tai’s bucks coverage on the eurostep podcast uh follow him on Twitter as well but thank you so much for making the time and hopping on and we we wish you some sanity over the next couple weeks brother I’m gonna be watching the first dot game like a hawk
Thank you guys for having me I hope some sity is coming soon yes sir our thanks to T Windish for hopping on great getting a Bucks fans perspective we will be back on Saturday with our NFC and AFC Championship preview as well as an interview with Desa Reed uh to talk
About all of the big Raiders news we’ll see y’all then bye bye Bye
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